Sharri | 29 October

Live on Sky News. This is Sharry Good Evening, Welcome to the show.

Alberizi tonight accused of breaching the Ministerial Code of Conduct by soliciting business flight upgrades. Peter Dutton wants the Corruption Commission to investigate, and Albanzi has also given a misleading answer over why his son had chairman's lounge access. Joe Aston will be on my show tonight and boy does he hit back at Albanzi.

The ones who bang on the most about their origin story, you know, about how they grew up in a brown paper bag or they floated to an Australia on a stick of spaghetti. They're always the ones who are most are most susceptible to the high life. And I think it's certainly true that for someone who came from so little, Albanesi has an insatiable appetite for VIP travel and hospitality.

That's coming up also tonight, Petty Wong furious that Israel dared to block a UN organization that has a long history of supporting terror. Why would the Foreign Minister be so upset about this? Chris Mitchell would join me to discuss, and eight days out from the US election, will Cross Live to Washington, where Adam Crichton will break down the latest positive poll for Trump.

But as one comedian's bad joke cost him votes.

I'm going to discuss that with Bronwin Bishop and Caleb Bond in a moment. But first tonight, accusations that Anthony Alberzi has misled voters about why his son had chairman's lounge access. This comes as Peter Dutton accuses alben Ezi of breaching the Ministerial Code of Conduct. His also said this entire matter should be referred to the Corruption Commission for investigation. Now this has now become a political scandal.

Now, when this.

Revelation first emerged over a year ago, Albanezy refused to comment on it at all. The Prime Minister had never disclosed this gift on his register of interests. But this week he finally spoke about it and he claimed that his son was his new plus one.

Have a look.

All that happened was my relationship ended. My relationship ended, and my plus one when that happened, and I put out a media release when my marriage ended. You can't be more transparent than that, and my plus one became my son.

That seemed to satisfy the journalists at the press conference.

But is it true. Not quite.

Albaneze claimed as he heard that Carmel Tebbert was his plus one, But in fact I'm told that she had her own Quantus chairman's lounge access, completely independent of Albanesi, and she was of course Deputy Premiere in New South Wales and also Education Minister. And secondly, by the time Albanesi asked Alan Joyce to give his son the lounge access, well, he'd split up from Carmel Tebbert around three years earlier. Joe Aston explains this discrepancy in the interview I've.

Done with him that's airing on the show tonight. Have a look.

I find again, I find that an implausible explanation because Jody Hayden was disclosed by Albanesi in his Register of interest in October twenty twenty two as Albanese's plus one, So how can his son be his plus one?

There's just so many holes in all of Albanese's answers and Joe Aston coming up on the show a bit later. He also responds to the claims from Albanzi that the journalist is targeting his faumily by focusing on his son's chairman's lounge access. So what we've seen today and you know this by now, that the Prime Minister is now attacking Joe Aston a journalist, instead of just being straightforward and honest and open with voters about all of this.

The person who is trying to sell a book, and fair enough, I don't see decorations that he's a former Liberal Party staffer for a number of senior members of the Liberal Party, including Joe Hockey and Bruce Bird. I don't see decorations he as a former Counus employee. I don't see decorations. In June, just a few months ago, he was a guest him and John Howard, a Liberal Party fundraiser in the electorate of Worth.

I mean, come on, this is petulant. Seriously, a prime minister under scrutiny for integrity issues, starts attacking a journalist. Albanize cannot avoid answering questions by hitting out at Joe Aston. Not that it's relevant, but Joe Aston's disclosures are pretty clear. On page one of this book, he discloses that he did previously work for both Quantas and the Liberal Party. And by the way, that's probably why he has such good access to intel. It's beside the point. This isn't

Did you call Alan Joys personally for these upgrades?

The idea Quannas have a number in terms of bookings that are private bookings.

So no denial at all, just yet again deflection by talking about some private number and on that what is he talking about a number for private bookings. The Quantus number that you and I have access to is the one three one three, one three number where you're left on hold for hours. The number Albanese he had for private bookings for upgrades is Alan Joyce's personal mobile number.

Of upgrades that they've had.

I mean, it's like a child saying, oh, but that kid also stole the lollipop. This is extraordinary stuff from the prime minister who promised a new era of transparency in politics.

I want to bring people together and I want to change the way that politics is conducted in this country. And I do believe that we can do politics better and I hope to do so.

Well.

Maybe Albenesi should read up on the Code of Conduct for Ministers because it does state that yep, they're allowed to accept gifts, but they must not seek or encourage any form of gift in their personal capacity. That's a direct quote. And there are now quite serious questions over whether the Prime Minister breached those ministerial Code of Conduct rules, and Peter Darton says he has well.

Certainly, on the face of reading the Gillard government minister or Code of Conduct, the Prime Minister has breached that by his own admission.

At no point has Albanese denied that he personally asked that enjoys for upgrades worth tens of thousands of dollars and if he asked for them it would be in breach as I've just shown you of the Ministerial Code of Conduct. Parliament resumes next week, so it's very possible that if alban Easy doesn't refer himself to the Corruption Commission, which let's be Frank is not going to, then the

Told us today.

And worst of all, the main action to prevent another pandemic would be to investigate the origins of COVID nineteen, work out why this virus spread.

Around the world.

But not once has Albanezi asked Chinese President Shijingping his good mate about this, not once, because it was Scott Morrison's demand for an inquiry into the origins of the virus that sparked China's aggression against Australia in the first place, including all.

The trade tariffs.

But to prevent another pandemic, we do need to know how it began. We do need a ban on dangerous gain of function research, risky research that was initially banned under the Obama administration for viruses like coronaviruses. Yet now gainer function research is taking place.

All over the world. We need a proper commission of inquiry.

This inquiry that we've seen the results of today was a whitewash, no proper scrutiny. Mark Butler today we've heard him speak about the paper trayal and faxes. I mean, seriously, that's not the sort of tough questions that need to be examined to ensure we don't have another pandemic, and if we do, to make sure that the authorities know how to handle it. Okay, lots to talk about tonight.

Welcome to you both. Look, let's start by talking.

About Anthony Albanisi and this quantus scandal. Bronwin Bishop Peter Dutton has said that the Prime Minister should refer himself to the Corruption Commission. How serious are the integrity issues here that the PM has to answer for?

Well, I guess the issues are being clearly spilled out today, and that is the code of conduct, not being allowed to ask for a gift as to think from being offered one when it's got a monetary value of three hundred and fifty dollars and seven hundred dollars. And also the question of whether when you're the regulating minister, whether you're in a really serious conflict of interest situation.

So there where.

Is he the big point, isn't it? It's very conflict of interest?

Yes, So the question is and of course people then related to the Kata Airlines decision of not allowing them to come in and I think Albinizi said he.

Was protecting the national interest?

Was he?

We don't know. So it is a serious issue.

And I remember that Gladys bear A Jiglian was knocked out of the premiership because she had reached the code of conduct among other things. So there is a seriousness about it, which is more.

Than Farrell and the bottle of another breach there, yees.

So it's a serious issue.

Whether he refers himself or not to the institution he created will be interested. They were, I think quite anxious to offer a couple of former Coalition ministers after that commission.

So it remains to be seen.

But that train wreck of a press conference he gave today, Why was he doing it?

Where are his friends? And then you asked the question do they really want to get.

Rid of him?

I mean, if Albanezy truly believes he has nothing to hide, he should come out and say, yep, sure, get the Corruption Commission to investigate, because I'm an open book. But we haven't seen him do that. From the coalition's perspective, they say the balls in his court now. It is possible that they could make that referral though next week when Parliament resumes. Caleb, before I get your response, I want to show you just how much of a subject

Obviously that's not a real photograph. That's a bit of a lock up, Caleb.

We can't imagine Alberizi getting changed into his PJS though, when he has those, you know, twenty two plus flight upgrades to business class.

I don't want to imagine him changing into his pj's. There's probably a better picture than you know, after we lost all that weight, before he had the car crash, of course, but he said when he says that he was going to do politics better, he's certainly done one thing better, and that's get his snout in the trough. Now, this was going on long before he was Prime minister. Of course, we're talking most importantly about when he was Transport minister. And he knows he's on the ropes. That's

No, Well, lots of.

Politicians accept gifts from Quantus and upgrades from Quantus. That might be so, but how many others have picked up the phone directly to the CEO of Quantus while they are Transport minister and ask for an upgrade, not on a business trip, but on a personal trip. And when you are the minister in charge who has a decision over what airlines are allowed to operate in this country, the slots that they are allowed to have in this country. It is such a direct conflict of interest that some

Yeah, Joyce has done nothing wrong, He's done nothing illegal. This is all on the questions are all for Albansi, and it just shows again how out of touch it is. We're in a cost of living crisis. Australians can barely afford interstate travel at the moment in economy. And I don't know about you Tube, but you know I've heard a lot of people say, oh, yes, I've had an upgrade. I'll tell you what. Every time I fly, I always say,

I only get with points, So I haven't been off a one joy sweat.

Were you when I needed you for him?

You just can't get upgrade? So there you go.

Let's look at this COVID inquiry report Bronwen. This was particularly scathing of vaccine mandates, but really only from the perspective of now vaccine hesitancy.

Well, I think that the report is an absolute disgrace because what we needed was a Royal Commissioner, and the parameters of the report were such that investigating what individual states, particularly the premiers did was excluded from the inquiry and reporting. So what we're seeing is let's blame the previous federal government for what they did. Now there's the treasurer out there, the snake charmer, because.

It's all an illusion. There he was out there.

Today saying, oh, well they were responsible, they the former coalition government for giving us inflation. But at the same time there were the shadow tasure demanding that the coalitions spend more and keep spending it for longer.

So there is.

Absolutely no no integrity in that man's answer at all. Today he banks on the fact that probably people will forget what he said last time. So the thing that concerns me also is the establishment of this Center for

And again the.

US had a CDC and they were still hit hard by the pandemics.

Is going to be some not.

But I am still worried about this treaty because you can sign a treaty, but nothing happens until legislation imports it into domestic law. Is this the first step of importing it into domestic law?

I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw.

That they were really compromised by China.

They gave out misleading information in the WHO They told everyone that COVID nineteen and there was no human to human transmission.

In fact, it was a highly infectious virus.

And they still insisted on telling people that if you got vaccinated, you would then.

Not infect anybody else. That was an absolute lie.

All it did was allegedly make the disease less in your own body. You are not a risk to anybody else in your own body. It was supposed to make it less.

Now we've got.

What thousands of people who are walking around who have been affected by the vaccinations because.

Of the reactions they had. They were rushed through so much.

There weren't so much to look at in a royal commission that will hopefully prevent unproven things being pumped into people's bodies.

Yeah, very quick response, Caleb. I'm sure we'll hear more from you about this at ten o'clock tonight.

Yeah.

Look, I mean the vaccine stuff seriously. I mean the report says that it was the rollout of vaccines was too slow and that cost lives. Well, no, I think the damage that was done by the States cost a lot more lives. And as for a CDC, the one thing that really went wrong during COVID was bureaucrats running the show. And now we're being told the one thing that would save us if this ever happened again is to have another outfit with even more bureaucrats in it, pull the other way that had joke.

And by the way, when is anyone going to apologize for taping up children's playgrounds like there were some rhyme scene.

I mean absolutely ridiculous.

Children were barely affected by COVID if they were healthy, young kids, and they couldn't even go to a playground. I mean, those lost childhoods. Never get them back. All right, kayleb Bond, BNT Brenwan Bishop, thank you both so much, and we'll see you at ten o'clock tonight. Now, since the October seven terror attacks, we've seen outrageous claims from pro Palestinian activists that Jews should be expelled from Israel, a one state solution from the river to the sea. Well,

Well.

I spoke to the former editor in chief of The Australian Current columnist Chris Mitchell about this a little earlier.

Chris Mitchell, thank you so much for joining me.

You've written an exceptional column and it's been one of the most well read articles on the Australian website. You write about how Jews are presented as colonizers.

This is far from the truth, Chris.

Can you explain to us how Jews are actually indigenous to the land of Israel.

The truth is they're the direct inheritors of the original Canaanite civilization in the area. So just as Aboriginal Australians would say they are the original people here and everyone who came after them are colonizers, the truth is the Jews are the original inhabitants of that part of the Levant. I'd say they meet virtually all of the seven UN criteria for indigeneity, and there are sort of an ethno religious group much the same way as Australian Aborigines are.

Chris Jews were connected with the land of Israel for at least at least a thousand years before the religion of Islam even began.

Yeah.

You write about how Palestinian activists are now demanding people use Arabic terms for cities in Israel our kods for Jerusalem, for example, and you argue that this is laughable because the original Hebrew names far predate Arab settlement.

Yeah, I mean, it might be more than two thousand years ahead of you know, the Arab colonization of the area. I think the idea that you know, people like Randall abul Fatar, you know, an intellectual who is on a research grant of eight hundred thousand dollars, and you know, an advocate for Palestinian riots would be retweeting claims that we should reverse to Arab names for old Jewish towns.

Well, can you tell us about the history of Arabs with the land of Israel and when they started referring to themselves as Palestinians.

Well, I think, you know, if you look at the early part of the twentieth century, and I think it's pretty clear from the nineteen forty seven forty eight attack by the Arabs on what was then Palestine that Palestine at the time was seen by all Westerners as a

Look, I just want to ask you about Pennywong's comments today. The Albanesi government is opposing Israel's decision to stop UNRAH operating in Israel because of its proven clear links to terrorism.

What's your view on this?

Well, Look, I think it's really bit admitted that there were links between UNRAH and the and the October seven massacre. So even the UN itself sacked nine of the twelve names that the Israelis gave them. I think this sort of fits with the wider picture of suspicion about the UN in Israel, and I think people are rightly suspicious. I noticed today that the IDF has revealed footage of

Chris Mitchell terrific columns every single week on Monday in The Australian and appreciate your time, Thanks Harry. And after the break, Anthony Alberanezi accused of breaching the Ministerial code of conduct. Well, the columnist, the author who revealed all of this, Joe Aston, will join us on the show and he doesn't hold back. Plus, the Trump campaign in damage control after a joke by a comedian at the Madison Square Garden rally backfires. Will cross live to the US for the latest.

Welcome back.

Well, the Albanzi government is tonight in damage control mode. The political fallout from the Quantus upgrade scandal now taking on a life of its own. Albanizi hasn't denied personally asking former Quantus chief executive Allan Joys for upgrades. These business class flights are worth tens of thousands of dollars, and then news today that he's been getting these perks since ninety ninety nine. I spoke about all of this with Joe Aston, the author of The Chairman's Lounge, a

Thank you.

Cherry certainly making news today and the Prime Minister he's under pressure over the revelations over the flight upgrades. He's attacked you personally over this. What's your response to what he's had to say today?

So the Prime Minister complained that apparently I've failed to disclose that I was once a liberal staffer and that I also worked for Quantus. My advice would be perhaps one of the fifty taxpayer funded staff who worked for him could have read the first couple of pages of the book, because it's there that I was a Quantus employee before the contents page, and the fact that I was a liberal staffer is literally on the first line of the first page of the book.

So he's deflecting.

Well, yeah, he's unfortunately decided to shoot the messenger, and he seems unable to answer the only question that people are interested in hearing.

This is a classic strategy to avoid having to answer questions about the own upgrades and the benefits that he's received.

Over the years. He says he's declared them. So what has he done that's actually wrong here?

Well, well, I think potentially he hasn't technically done anything wrong if he has disclosed all of his flight upgrades, which he says he has, But that really says something about what's wrong with the rules. You can disclose gifts all you want, but the fact is he was Transport minister and he was seeking upgrades and accepting upgrades from a national airline that he was actually in charge of regulating.

I mean, you've made the comparison to a CEO from A and Z or Westpac giving fifty thousand dollars into a prime minister's or a politician's bank accounts and that person them disclosing it. You know, it still raises questions.

Oh totally. So what do you think of the.

Major decisions You just refer to Qatar Airlines, But what do you think of the major decisions that Albanezi has made over the years that have benefited Quantus?

Well, I would say, well, certainly last year when Quantus was going off the rails, and as we many of us remember, they had the highest prices and the worst customer service in memory, and they were in an absolute brand crisis which they're still recovering from. At that time, the Albanesi government defunded the hriplec's airline monitoring powers, which only Quantus had sought to have ended. No other parties had wanted to do that, so they basically cut the

Aside from the flight upgrades, one of the main revelations from your reporting has been that the Prime Minister requested from Alan Joyce a chairman's lounge membership for his son Nathan. Now he has said in the past few days that this was just a plus one that replaced Carmel Tebbet's

Yeah? So I wrote this twelve months ago, August twenty twenty three, and the Prime Minister was so outraged he tried to shut the story down. He called my editor in chief and has now you know, has basically put a personal boycott on the AFI won't speak at any conferences.

I mean, it's all a bit this is about his son receiving the lounge.

Miss she's so angry about that story being run, and he's never dealt with it. He just has never even confirmed that it's true. And until this week, I mean a year later, he finally says, yeah, okay, he does have a Chairman's land to membership. But as you say,

Absolutely, he claims you're targeting his family, that this isn't a matter of public interest.

What do you say to that?

I find that pretty tiresome. You sort of get used to it. But I mean the idea that I am targeting his family or that it's my fault or the financial reviews fault, or the book's fault that his son is being raised in the news. Is just completely not taking responsibility for his own actions. His grasping behavior, asking for benefits for his family while he's in public office. That's what caused his son to be in the news, and he just and again, I think we're seeing more

I think, you know, the political side of it is obviously fascinating, but where it becomes a serious issue is if the politicians aren't properly holding Quantum to account or ensuring proper conduct from our national carrier. When it comes to issue like the COVID flight credits. This was an egregious conduct from Quantus. So do you think that the politicians, if they weren't on the take from Quantus, they might have been tougher.

Yeah, and I think I think, well, setting aside COVID credits, I think for more than three decades, governments and politicians of both stripes have been you know, in licking the trough of Quantus for that entire period of time, now Quantus is the best user and wielder of soft influence in Australia, and I go into great detail about that in my book. But you know, more recently, the company,

Just finally, quickly before you go.

I mean, some people are missing your columns in the fin Review, other's.

Not so much.

But I'm interested in your view about Albinizi as a character because the position, the perception is cementing that he is that he does like a freebeat, whether it's the Grand Final tickets, Taylor Swift tickets, his cliptop mansion and now the revelations of the twenty two flight upgrades at least. What's your view on how he's presented himself as this boy from housing Commission.

Yeah, it's interesting in my experience writing about very powerful people for a long period of time, the ones who bang on the most about their origin story, you know, about how they grew up in a brown paper bag, they floated to an Australia on a stick of spaghetti. They're always the ones who are most are most susceptible to the high life. And I think it's certainly true that for someone who came from so little, Albanizi has an insatiable appetite for VIP travel and hospitality.

All Right, Joe Aston, thank you very much and congratulations once again in your book.

Thank you, Cherry.

And coming up after the break, why Penny Wong insists on giving taxpayer funds our taxpayer funds to an organization linked to hamas she has.

Truly lost the plot.

Plus the warning to Albanesi from a labor insider about doing a deal with the devil, and by that he means the Greens stay tuned.

Okay, welcome back.

Well, let's jump straight into it now with our panel. Sky News contributor Gary Hargrave and former Labor advisor Darren Bynett.

Welcome to you both.

Well, let's have a look at what pennywog Can said today. Now, Israel quite rightly Pastor Bill banning the discredited UNRA because of its long history to terrorism, including some of their staff actually participating in the October seventh attacks. And you all know the history by now. It would be disgraceful for our taxpayer funds, our hard walking dollars to go towards that organization when there are other ways of giving eight. Yet, of course, anyone attacked Israel's decision have a look.

The best available current advice from agencies and the Australian government lawyers is that UNRA is not a terrorist organization and that existing and additional safeguards sufficiently protect Australian taxpayer funnel.

I mean, Gary, it is obvious by now we have seen so many terrorists carrying around their UNRA badgers. Surely it Pennywong must have concerns that millions of taxpayer dollars are going to support terrorism.

Yeah you think so, Shari, And I mean who does she work for? She works for us, But in fact what she's showing is she actually works for the internationalists who want to pull apart Western society. We cannot allow even a sniff of Australian money to end up somewhere near or give comfort to those who are terrorists. We are an award to save the West. Israelis on the front line and if Israelan's made a judgment based on what they see in their country, then we should back them all the way.

It's a no brainer, and especially because the evidence has been presented to everyone. And also what concerns me Darren is that she didn't even bother to wait for the official investigation into the links between HUMAS and AUNRA before kickstarting our funding.

Well, I think if you look at the vote, it was ninety two votes to ten in the Israeli parliament, so is not a close decision. And I think what Gary says is true that you have to respect the wishes of the Israeli parliament and act accordingly. So the government. I know they are playing an internationalist game and they are singing from the same song sheet as several other similar countries to ours, but you've got to respect the rights of the Israeli parliament on this one, I think.

And there are other ways of giving aid.

Aid is important, there are other ways of giving it without us all having concerns that we are enabling terrorism. I mean, it's just appalling. I actually can't believe we have this foreign minister. The sooner we get rid of her the better. Now, I don't usually think that former Labor Minister Kim Karr is worth listening to.

He's as radical as they come.

Yet he's given quite an interesting interview where he said that the Albaneze government can't afford to do a deal with the Greens, and he wants that the Greens will be asking labor to do things that they don't want to do and the historic pattern that has been that has led to quite negative outcomes. He's saying that we've

Yeah, and we used to nickname him in a fun way kim Ilka. You know, it's giving a sort of Korean dictator kind of slant. But look, Kim car is right. How I can't even believe I'm saying that, because the Labor Party are going to be taken over by the Greens, even more than some elements of the Labor Party have already been taken over. We saw it in the Queens Out election, we saw it in the Act election back earlier this year, the Brisbane City Council election. People are

Yeah, now, just quickly those comments we played of Penniwong a second ago. That was Pennywong back in March speaking about Anna Rabbert. Today on social media and on Twitter, you can pull up her statement or on X I should say she condemned Israel over that decision to ban Anra operating now Darren realistically, Albertiezi says he's not going to do a deal with the Greens, but if it comes to it, if it's his only way of staying in power, I mean of course he's going to.

I think his preference would be to go to other independents before relying on the Greens, because we saw what happened last time and I worked for Julia, but Julia Gillard signing effectively a declaration with Bob Brown was not to her benefit at all. What Kim Car says is absolutely true that unlike the coalition between the LNP in Queenza but the Liberal National Coalition, the Greens are not there to make Labor elected. There are many in the Greens who their long term ambition is to take over

Just remind me, were you working for Julia Gillard when it was the hung Parliament and there was that extraordinary long negotiation with Oakshardan.

No, I wasn't. I left Tanya's office at the end of the term and I came back to Julia's office some time up. But I did watch those eighteen minutes when for all of us inside the show, it was perfectly obvious if Catter had gone one way, the other two would going the other way. So it was kind of in real time. It was quite painful. I quite like Robot Shop, but it was a painful brest cot No.

Anyway, oakshots a topic for another day. Gary Hargrave, Darren Barnett, thank you both very much. Now, coming up after the break.

Why Donald Trump is distancing himself from a joke made at one of his own rallies by a guest speaker across Live to New York as this fallout intensifies. Plus we'll talk about the crucial final days, just eight days left of this presidential campaign. Okay, let's go Live to the United States now and bring in the Australians. Washington correspondent Adam Crichton. Adam, thanks for joining me again. Now you were on the ground at the Madison Square Garden rally.

But what were your takeouts from the night.

Well, just the level of energy and the huge numbers of people. I mean, it was fully a capacity twenty thousand people. I had to cueue up three hours before the start just to get in, and many thousands of people.

Were turned away outside.

And just on the Jewish issue, there were many Israeli flags flying within the event. So the idea it was some sort of Nazi ralliers is just totally absurd. It was very peaceful, very happy. There's lots of energy, lots of happiness. There were no fights, and it went for six and a half hours, so you had, you know, twenty thousand people in the stadium for six and a half hours listening to Trump and his various allies.

And of course the media.

Has made a huge deal out of this one silly joke that happened right at the start by the first speaker, by a speaker that I'd never heard of, actually some new comedian.

You know, he said a stupid joke.

But I've actually got those comments from that comedian.

So let's have a look at this.

But there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now.

Yeah, I think it's called Puerto Rico.

So this has actually sparked, as you say, a major backlash in the media. The Trump campaign has had to respond to this. They say that it doesn't reflect the former president's views.

But you know why is he being blamed for this.

Well, because they're desperate, I think.

And if you look at the polls and if you look at the political betting markets, everything has been moving Trump's way.

I mean, just literally half an hour.

Ago, I checked the betting markets to see whether all this drama had made any difference to what people think the outcome will be. And in fact, Trump's chances of winning has gone from sixty one to sixty three percent.

So I don't think it's really made any difference.

I mean, the reality is, I mean, who's going to make a decision to vote based on a you know, a random joke from a random comedian.

I mean I think it's I think it's very unlikely.

I think most sensible people know that this guy is not he's not aligned with the Trump campaign.

So look, I think it'll I think it'll wash over.

I have to say, I think it's amazing that twenty thousand people can sit for six and a half hours engaged at a rally.

I mean, can you imagine Albo or really any.

Of our political leaders trying to get people up and stay stay awake for ten minutes, let alone at six hours.

It's just amazing.

I want to quickly ask you about this Washington Post issue. They've decided it's a left leading newspaper. They've decided not to endorse a candidate. There's now mass resignations and subscription cancelations. People are so angry that they're not backing in Kamala Harris.

What's Jeff Bezos said about this Adam.

Well, look, well, I mean his direct remarks. I mean he wants to stay neutral. I think in the face of a you know what is likely at Trump victory. But it's not just the Washington Post, it's also the La Times as well that's decided not to endorse a candidate. I mean, I think it's a pragmatic move, and you know, maybe, if anything, it increases respect for these newspapers amongst the general public, so they're not seen as such campaigning vehicles anymore.

I think they don't even have to give an official endorsement. I actually do subscribe to the Washington Post because it's just kind of entertaining to read.

The one sided coverage. But there's no.

Question they support Kamala Harris anyway. Adam Crichton, thanks for your time, and I'll see you everyone tomorrow at eight o'clock.

Right now, here's Paul Murray.