Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.
Good Evening tonight, alban Easy facing defeat at the polls.
I'll bring you analysis from.
An influential labor figure on whether his Prime ministership is terminal. Also on the show, Josh Friedenberg joins me to discuss Holocaust Remembrance Day and what today the eightieth anniversary of the Liberation of Auschwitz mean to him and his family. It's a deeply personal interview. This has more shocking videos emerged from the qu two anti racism conference. I'll show you a Palestinian speaker cruelly attacking Pete Stefanovic's childhood.
But first let's start.
With Australia Day and I hope everyone had a wonderful long weekend. Most of us have celebrated Australia this weekend. Yet there's a minority filled with hate. We've seen Invasion Day rallies once again in major cities. Thousands of people marched against the country they call home, waving greens, Aboriginal and Palestinian flags.
See the date change, see the flag change.
And allies co concolerated with Aboriginals and the Palestinians.
Sixteen Neo Nazis were arrested near the Invasion Day rally in Adelaide, not related to it, and one man was charged with displaying a Nazi symbol. Others were charged with assaulting police. It's disgusting now Neo Nazis aside, these rallies are protesting the so called invasion of Australia by the British.
Now it's funny because if.
These people are so against the colonization of Australia, why do they live here. If they're so against Australia being invaded by the British, then again, why do they live here. They're free to practice what they preach and leave. No one's forcing them to stay in our country. For most Australians, it is possible to do two things at once. To acknowledge the dark times of our history, which our country's leaders have apologized for, but also to celebrate our great nation.
That's what Australia Day is, the one patriotic public holiday when we can spend time with family and friends and recognize this beautiful, sun burnt country we live in. But unfortunately we didn't just see hatred at the Invasion Day rallies. At the Prime Minister's own official Australia Day celebrations, alban Easy posed for a photograph with a hateful activist wearing an offensive T shirt. There was such a backlash to this that Albanezi had to address it today.
That's a choice that she made. We do have in this country. People are allowed to express themselves. But I thought it was disrespectful of the event and of the people who that event was primarily for.
We are a democracy.
Grace Taye may not like news court media and she doesn't have to consume it. She'd be better informed if she did, but no one's forcing her.
But here's the irony.
It was news dot com do Au, owned by the Murdochs, that spent tens of thousands of dollars fighting to change the law in Tasmania in order to bring her story into the public domain. She owes a lot to new cop journalism and she was so grateful to News Corp at the time. She turned up to our Journalism Awards
and gave a speech expressing her gratitude. If it weren't for news dot com dot Au, Grace Tame's story wouldn't have been published and she never would have won the Australian of the year, but it seems she's now forgotten exactly whose journalism and whose money fought for her personal justice. And despite his words today, the Prime Minister seemed to have no problem smiling happily beside someone wearing a T shirt that's highly offensive about one of our country's greatest Australians.
As he stood there beside her, Albanizi, beside Grace Tame, I couldn't help think it was like watching one radical left wing activist beside another, because we know Alberzi's history as a protester, someone who yelled into a megaphone at a rally outside the American Embassy.
Of Israel.
Truman children very well with checks.
As I can't play that clip enough because it shows who Albanezi really is, and that's why, unfortunately under his current government, Australia isn't at its best right now. Australians know that, with polls today showing voters are turning against the Prime Minister. Personally, I'm so grateful to have been born here in Australia, to have grown up in this
nation of unparalleled natural beauty and peace. John Howard today says that instinctively one embraces that ancient evocation to count one's blessing when reflecting on the miracle to have been born in Australia. His words resonate, Yet there's no denying that as we celebrate Australia Day, we know these are among the worst times our nation has seen. It's why Peter Dutton's election campaign slogan is to get Australia back
on track. The very values our country is famous for and why we all chose to live here, or our parents or grandparents or great grandparents, those values are under threat. The very values our veterans risk their lives to fight for are now under threat. Instead of peace on our streets, we're seeing cars, homes, and even a preschool fire bond. Instead of makeship and kinship, we're seeing hatred, racism, and the unprovoked targeting of one minority group.
We need to do better as a nation.
The reason we all love Australia first and foremost is it's a safe and relaxed country to live in and raise a family. We need to see peace return to our streets urgently, or many will reconsider being Australian and may start looking for a safer place to live.
Now.
The CIA has finally come out and said that the origins of COVID nineteen are likely a lablique for an intelligence agency that collects top secret intelligence from inside sources. This is embarrassingly late. The reality is, after five years, there's no substantive evidence at all for a zoonotic origin of COVID nineteen, but there is overwhelming evidence to suggest the pandemic began with risky gain a function re at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Anthony Fauci's agency and other
US agencies were funding this risky research in Wuhan. Yet Fauci has now been preemptively pardoned, an utterly outrageous move that deprives the world of answers and accountability for their pandemic that has cost seven million lives.
A pardon for Fauci.
Biden obviously doesn't care about the justice for seven million families.
We do care about justice.
I've personally dedicated a lot of my time over the past five years to this topic, not only because we owe it to those who lost their lives, but also to prevent the next pandemic. Every single aspect of the COVID origin story, the funding, the researchers the cover up, the intelligence agencies, the scientists we've unpicked with extensive reporting an investigation. Yet throughout this investigation, as you know, the ABC ridiculed us for even examining the subject of a lab leak at all.
So, how likely is it that the virus escape from that Chinese lab? Well, in short, it's not so. Given all those expert doubts, was this sensational treatment really justified Batman exclusive We think not. We also think Marksman should have told readers that almost every virus expert had dismissed the lab escape theory. As one senior source admitted to the paper, we.
Can't rule it out. We can't rule out a lot of things. It's hard to prove a negative.
It is, indeed, which is why conspiracy theories like this are so hard to kill.
Conspiracy theories are so hard to kill.
Conspiracy theories.
The official word from the ABC, and if we'll ever see any corrections or apologies given the CIA and the majority of US intelligence agencies say.
The lab leak was the likely cause of the pandemic.
Now, this isn't about me, It's it's about how the ABC tries to suppress areas of investigation. That don't suit their agenda or aren't fashionable. They do it all the time in many subject fields, from climate change to anti semitism. On COVID origins, It's embarrassing how the ABC thought they knew better.
They thought they had all the answers.
And the fact that the virus wreaking havoc across the world, sarskov two, is not one the Wuhand Lab was known to be working on, and while one of it's bad viruses, RaTG thirteen, is closely related, sharing all but four percent of the genetic material. That is a significant gap.
Or the ant five years ago. But it wasn't just the ABC. The Sydney Morning Herald and their science writers also repeatedly claimed over the years that there was nothing to see here.
So why did the lab escape theory still dominate the story, especially when virus experts had dismissed it three days earlier in the Sydney Morning Herald.
COVID nineteen did not come from lab. The evidence is overwhelming that the virus that causes COVID nineteen jumped from animals to humans rather than escaping from a laboratory. Virus experts say Charry must have missed that bulletin YEP.
According to The Herald and the ABC, it was case closed.
There was no lab leak.
The virus came from an animal, even though not one scientist could nominate which animal, and they haven't been able to ever since. Yet, as you know, it was far from case closed, and the evidence continued to unravel the.
More you looked into it.
We're now expecting the CIA to release the secret of intelligence that that agency has been holding. COVID investigator David Asher tells me that the CIA has emails, messages and other correspondents between those involved.
Director Ratcliffe, who you've interviewed previously.
Is adamant about declassifying information or releasing information actually is already declassified, and then the big question is going to be signals intelligence and how much of that gets makes its way out.
Just trust me, there was a lot of it.
And that full interview will be on the show tomorrow night. The new CIA Director John Ratcliffe has argued this intelligence should be in the public domain. Here's what he said on our Sky News documentary.
There is more intelligence out there, and I'd like to see it declassified because it'll create additional pressure, not just on Chinese Communist Party officials, but others that still continue to deny that China is a bad actor here.
And Ratcliffe has now told Fox News that it's time for the CIA to be honest with.
The world about its findings.
He said he spoke to the president about the need to restore trust in institutions like the CIA.
I had the opportunity on my first day to make public an assessment that actually took place in the Biden administration, so it can't be accused of being.
Political, and it does assess.
The CIA has assessed that the most likely cause of this pandemic that has wrought so much devastation around the world was because of a laborated incident in Wuhan.
And Ratcliffe hinted that Trump might even confront Chinese President she about the origins of COVID.
President Trump needs to have the very best intelligence so that when he's negotiating with President g and other adversaries, he's able to confront them with the things that we know that our intelligence tells us about what our adversaries have done to us. So now that it's out there, he'll be able to use that to leverage that to have honest discussions to put America's our national security posture in a better position than it's been for the last four years.
It will of course be big news if Trump does indeed decide to do this. And this is the difference between a leader like Trump an alban EASi. Trump is prepared to have tough conversations with China. Albin Ezi demanded an investigation over the accidental death of one Australian, Zomi frankm by Israel, which Israel.
Was already investigating.
Yet Albinizi would never dare raise with China the need for an investigation into the origins of a virus that killed more than seven million people. Worse, the Albenzi government criticized Scott Morrison for having the courage to call for the origins inquiry. Morrison was of course correct to do so. He was the first in the world. You don't tread softly to avoid agitating a dictator that's succumbing to their rules.
You have to defend your own citizens now, one senior political figure told me today, Albanezi has a policy of appeasement, an acquiescence on China. It's a policy of weakness. He couldn't be in a more different space to Trump, Rubio, and Waltz, and this wedge between their ideologies and foreign policy will only become more apparent with each passing day of the new Trump administration. Now today is Holocaust Remembrance Day. On this day, eighty years ago, Nazi concentration camp Auschwitzberg
Canal was finally liberated. In truth, it took too long. The Nazis came to power in Germany in nineteen thirty three and they were finally defeated in nineteen forty five. Six million Jews perished in the gas chambers, executed, shot into shallow graves that they dug themselves, tortured, starved, and burned in furnaces. The worst year was nineteen forty two,
when two point seven million Jews were killed. It was mass murder, a genocide in the truest sense of the word, and the Jewish population has never really recovered, not emotionally or in population size.
The trauma lives on.
Josh Friedenberg wrote a moving piece today where he said, I still cannot comprehend how the people of Germany, living in such a cultured and civilized society, could descend to such depravity and in humanity. To their fellow man. The answer is indifference. Bad things happen when good people stay silent. We all said never again, we all said we'd never forget. We hoped we'd never see such antisemitism again. Yet here we are, eighty years on, and it's the indifference we
need to fight now. The Albanese government, the police, and the judiciary showed indifference when antisemitism exploded, at first on the steps of the Opera House and ever since. It's hardly surprising that with this indifference the racism has only escalated the international community too, in forums like the United
Nations and in human rights groups. Human rights groups have shown indifference even as they see with their own eyes her Musk murdering, burning, beheading and raping innocent people, including babies and children.
On the weekend, we.
Watched as four beautiful young women were paraded by a terror organization wearing balaclavas with guns. Those girls were stolen from their lives, from their families. We will never forget the depraved images of how her mus brutalized them.
Again.
This is the place Pennywog wants to recognize with statehood. Now there's been outrage over the fact that someone who hasn't been an outspoken advocate on anti Semitism is now attending and this will be tonight our time the commemorations at Ashville. Johannes Seek summed it up in his brilliant cartoon in the Australian Today. Have a look, he wrote there, typical,
not so much as a word about Islamophobia. Well, now Foreign Minister Pennywong is at the commemorations, and she made some remarks that have caused incredible offense a couple of days ago, where she appeared to say that only one million Jews had been killed in the Holocaust instead of six million.
What occurred during World War II, The hatred, prejudice, the dehumanization and the murder of over a million people and a million Jews was something humanity he should never forget.
Wong faced accusations she was downplaying the number of Jew's murdered. It was then curious to see that in her official transcript of the remarks she made, they'd been amended. Her office wrote in brackets, the hatred, prejudice, the dehumanization and the murder of over a million people and a million Jews at Auschwitz was something humanity should never forget. Now despite a petition, she will be there. She is there now, and let's hope her visit moves her to take antisemitism
more seriously. Let's hope she learns about why the existence and the survival of Israel is so important. The late Holocaust survivor Eddie Jacou said, I cannot change the past. The past is history. I will try with all my strength and all my knowledge to change the future.
That quote.
His quote in hires me all the time. It doesn't matter our faith or our background. We all need to speak up and do whatever we can to stamp out the hatred that we're seeing now. It's our collective responsibility as Australians or as global citizens not to allow our country and our world to be overtaken by antisemitism. We all have this duty and let's do everything we can to change our future. And on this day, we're thinking of your memory, Eddy, and also the six million.
Jews who were murdered in the Holocaust.
Also we think of those who survived but lost everything they held dear, their parents, their children, and their innocent life as they knew it. May their memories be a blessing and a lesson against complacency. Let's bring in our former treasurer and my good friend, Josh Friedenberg. Josh, on that note, can you tell me about your personal family members who were in the Holocaust and in Auschwitz.
Well, my story is not unique, Shahi. It's like so many austrange Jewish families and indeed Jewish families right around the world. I lost many relatives in the Holocaust, both on my parents' side but also on my wife's family.
And I grew up with a great aunt, Mary Friedenberg, who actually came to my first speech in Parliament, and she was a survivor of the concentration camps, and she carried with her for life the tattooed number on her arm, and she spoke little about her experience for good reason, but it was also a reminder that despite the Nazi's best efforts to this destroy the Jewish people, they failed, and the Jewish people continue to live on now, facing
challenges again with the rise in antisemitism following October the seventh. But like many other enemies before, Hamas and their fellow travelers will fail yet again.
Josh, in your powerful piece that you've written today on the sky News, website, and anyone can read it on the website if you haven't done so yet. You wrote about how if we were to observe a minute's silence for each victim, the silence would extend for more than eleven years. And you say that so devastating was the Nazis genocide that the world's Jewish population in twenty twenty
five is smaller than it was in nineteen thirty five. Josh, You know, both in terms of the trauma that the children and the grandchildren carry and in terms of the.
Jewish population survive. The community is never covered from the Holocaust.
It hasn't recovered numerically, and it certainly hasn't forgotten the tragedies of the past. But the community is also very resilient. And the State of Israel was not established because of the Holocaust, but the Holocaust happened because the State of Israel was not established, and I think that's really important
to remember. A strong Israel is important to the world Jewish community, but it's also important to the global community at large, and that's underlined by that famous quote from Bob Hawk, our own Prime Minister, who said, if the bell tolls for Israel, the bell tolls for all of mankind and right now as a democracy and a sea of hostility, they're facing enormous threats, but they are making progress.
And we in the Jewish community have a lot of friends here in Australia and I'm hoping that the tide is turning. And I have been encouraged shari by comments in recent days and weeks by Christian leaders, by Hindu leaders, by other very brave individuals. Today was Marcia Langton writing in The Australian really about about the hatred that has been unleashed on university campuses by the weakness and the
indifference of university leaders in our country. There are a lot of great people out there, like Nova Paris and others, and it's I think it's encouraging to have their support. And I know and you know that there are so many Australians who have been appalled by the anti Semitism that has been on the rapid rise since October the seventh, and they know that it's Australia's fight. They know it's Australian values that's been undermined, and they want to see our social cohesion restored.
Yeah, and I completely agree with all of those remarks you made about the incredible support from mainstream Australians who unequivocally hate the hatred and the racism that we've seen a rise. Josh, you represented Australia at the seventieth anniversary of the Liberation of Aschwitz. I mean ten years ago when you went there, anti Semitism just wasn't a daily issued. Could you ever have imagined that we'd be speaking about this on a daily basis now?
Well, it was a very solemn occasion and it was a great honor to be there, and I thank Tony Abbott, Prime Minister at the time for enabling me to go. And the most moving speeches back then ten years ago, I'm sure will be repeated again when they commemorate the eightieth anniversary, And those speeches were from the Holocaust survivors themselves, and I remember a man called Raymond Ken to survivor from Oschwitz, who said, don't let our past become our
children's future. And back then we needed to be on guard, and today we need to be increasingly on guard about people who want to minimize, deny the events of the Holocaust that took place. And I think we have a collective responsibility, Shari, particularly our leaders federal and state governments to ensure that people across the country understand the gravity the scale of the Holocaust and learn about that history so we don't repeat repeat it in the coming years.
So important.
Josh Fredenberg, thank you as always for your strong advocacy on this area. Of course, the advocacy that you are recognized for just yesterday by The Australian on the weekend by the Australian as one of their Australians of the Year. Your voice has been so powerful after over the past fifteen months, and we're also grateful for that.
Well, thank you, Sharon. You not it's not about us as individuals. It's always been about the cause. And to underline for your viewers, this is austrayas fight. This is not just about the safety of the Jewish community. There's something much bigger at play and fortunately the tide is turning, but there is still a lot of work to do. And thank you personally for your advocacy, your strength from
day one. You haven't taken a backward step and so many people not only appreciate that, Shari, they are safer for it.
Thank you, Thank you very much. Josh, we all have to do whatever we can. I always say to people, whatever skills you have at your disposable, use them because this is so important. Josh Fridenberg, thank you again. Now still to come speakers at that offensive QUT anti racism conference attack Mike Sky colleague Pete Stefanovic. I'll show you those clips tonight. Plus Albanizi's clifftop mansion haunts him ahead of the federal election. Political analyst Jeff Chambers will join
me next. Welcome back. Let's turn to today's newspoll in The Australian and we'll be sending alarm bells right through the Albanesi government. Labour's primary vote has fallen two points since December, while in the two party preferred survey they're now trailing the opposition. And it's not much better for Anthony Albanesi personally. The Prime Minister's approval ratings have slumped to their lowest levels since he became PM. Joining me
now is The Australian's chief political correspondent, Jeff Chambers. Jeff, great to see you again. Look, how do you interpret these newspoll results when it comes to Albanese's chances of winning the next election.
Hi Shari.
So just put it in context. At the twenty two election, Anthony Alberesi claimed a small majority government on a primary vote of thirty two point six percent that primary vote. So they're now at thirty one percent at thirty two point six which was actually worse than Bill Shortens losing election results. That was the worst result in labor history
since nineteen thirty four. So what we're seeing in this preferential system is a system that benefits labor, but there are all the hard heads in labor have been perpetually concerned about that very low primary vote, and what it means is they rely on Green's preferences and they heavily relied on the rise of the Teals last time, and then they just got there with that big swing against the Liberal Party in Perth. So that's where it's looking at.
It's not a good trend downwards, and if they were to go into the twenties, that's very concerning for labor and on the other side for Peter Dutton and the coalition. What we're seeing in these preferential systems is that a coalition is going to need a primary vote of forty two percent north to be in a position to win outright, So I think it's I think it's Peter Button's getting closer. But because of the system that we have, Anthony Alberesi definitely benefits from the Greens and the Teals.
Although if Dutton's primary, even if it stays the same, but if it does edge a bit higher, it will be hard for the Teals to win those seats back because the Teals to win also rely on preferences as well from the Greens and Labor, won't it.
Oh, certainly. And I think this is the issue with national polling though, is that it's not going to be uniform, So depending if it's a metropolitan inner city seat, a regional seat or an outer suburban seat, those preferences will flow in different ways. Book, Peter Dutton is certainly on the ascendency and we've seen these numbers dropping down and Anthony Albernese's personal appeal, He's performance ratings dropping at pace since the Voice referendum defeat.
And I guess this is why the Liberal Party, at least this advert today about Peter Dutton personally have a look.
As a minister. I learned that a strong economy and a safe community are central to everything that you sometimes need to stand up to vested interests and always make decisions in our national interest. The right decisions aren't always popular, but I'm not interested in taking me as you passed, because we live in the best country in the world and I'm determined to get Australia back on track.
So, Jeff, this is clearly designed to personalize Dutton to voters and endear him. Yeah.
Look, it's been a challenge for Peter Dutton to soften the so called hardman image, but this sixty second ad, it's pretty slick. It covers a lot of ground, it takes a lot of boxes, and I think there's a telling sign at the end of that advertisement, which will be running on tea and social media, where he says that you know that being Prime Minister you have to make decisions that aren't always popular, and he's willing to
do that. So yeah, he's trying to I guess contrast his style with Anthony Albanesi's.
Just before you Go, You've written that small business owners are shaping up to be key players in this election for both Albanese and Dutton, Why do they hold so much voting sway in this particular election.
Yeah.
So this out of two point six million companies businesses in this country, there's two point five million small businesses. They employ five point three million Australians and pump five hundred billion dollars annually into the Australian economy. So we hear a lot about big business, but as a collective, you think about the multiplier effect and the importance of small businesses across the country, but particularly out of suburbs and the regions that Peter Dutton is looking to pick
seats off labor. And as we've seen I've written about, we're currently experiencing record levels of insolvencies for small businesses. Its power prices, insurance, insurance premiums and those ranks. So you know, whether it's the CBD or in the regions, we're seeing more and more businesses have to shut down and you see Peter Dutton really lining himself up there as the champion of small business.
Yeah all right, Jeff Chambers, thank you so much for your analysis. Tonight, Now still to come Chump's win over Columbia and his vow to clean out Gaza, plus even more shocking clips emerge from QUT's disgraceful anti racism event. You know about Dutton's drew, but speakers also attacked Pete Stefanovic and made offensive comments about anti Semitism. I'll play them after this quick break.
Welcome back.
Well.
An anti racism conference at Queen's University of Technology has been making headlines for being offensive and anti Semitic. Sarah Schwartz from the pro Palestinian Jewish Council of Australia mocked the idea of what she called Dutton's jew She claimed that Dutton's supporters were.
Racist, evil stereotypes.
It's now been, of course, rightly condemned by senior figures, including the Federal Education Minister Jason Clare. Now, this was meant to be a conference against racism, but with their lineup of speakers, it was never going to be anything but highly offensive and the university should have known better. Now Palestinian spokesman Nasamashni, he's in the past called Jew's filth,
so they should never have had him there. Now, in clips that haven't yet been broadcast, Nasamashni attacked my colleague Peter Stefanovic over his childhood.
Come in zephonomic A guy that couldn't have had an easy childhood either.
I mean, they're meant to be at an anti racism conference. He also spoke about the right to criticize antisemitism.
In Australia, where we're it mastered the art of exceptionalism when it comes to hate. You see hating black fellows of Palestinian's, Muslims, Chinese, Africans, anyone. It's nuanced cultural debate, a career enhandser for some. But don't you dare speak about antisemitism? And if you do, don't you dare add
anything else to that same line? What been a way to remind blackfellows of the where they belong on the hierarchy of hate than to exceptionalize one form of bigotry and elevated above all the others and a point a special envoy.
I don't know, why are you laughing, Joe? This is appalling stuff.
He didn't stop there, he criticized Australia as well.
There's nothing more Australian than celebrating multiculturalism while simultaneously struggling with basic impathy. Definitely colonialism wherever it is. From this comment in the West Book World cashier Western's Harbor, and of course Palestine always was always all be controu.
He went on with this rubbish for ten minutes. All right, I'm Joe now bias. You know Sky News host Joe Hildebrand and former chief as Shorten Cameron Milner. Joe, the university should have stepped in earlier. I mean, mocking Pete's childhood, saying those offensive things about Australia.
These people are completely idiotic. It is just so fascical I've always amazed at. How ever more ridiculous it can get the fact that this bloke has these incredibly passionately held convictions and yet has to read out all these comments from an iPhone, the fact that he has to sort of, you know, very carefully, sort of choke up when he starts to Guzza. But I think he probably had to read that off his I phone too, because I'm so emotional about it. Sorry, let me refresh the page, Guzza.
I mean, it's just embarrassing, and the idea that you would have you know, Dutton's jew as a as an actual you know, I mean, these guys are so stupid. It's like they sort of want to get courts. I think maybe I don't know, but the idea that you would actually have that as a literal projection as well as an ideological projection, I think not not since slaur at Tingle. Imagine Peter Dutton being racist at a real estate auction. I think have we seen such hard evidence
of racism in the community. Just imagine, if you will, you want to talk about exceptionalism, just imagine that being done about any other ethnicity. Imagine if it was Dutton's Asian, Dutton's African, you know, imagine, imagine that about anything like that. You would have be slapped with a race hate case before you'd even show the door after the conference. It's just absolutely staggering. But let them let them hang themselves with their own petad Cameron.
The woman who spoke about that, who put up that slide, her name is Sarah Schwartz.
Now she is Jewish.
She is one of those anti israel Jews, anti Zionist Jews. She's from what's called the Jewish Council of Australia, a very misleading name, and the ABC keep having her on as if she represents the views of the Jewish community, when she might represent maybe one or two percent I mean media outlets after this, they've got to stop platforming her and Nasa Mashni surely, and.
Our universities have got stopped being a hotbed of antie Israel and anti Jewish student hatred Sharhi. It's disgraceful. They're taxpayer funded institutions, and I'm over a vice chancellor coming up with the Sergeant Schultz defense. I knew nothing when.
All this is going under their nose.
It's terrible disgrace.
And it's about time government's got serious about where taxpayer money went and which have a freeze or fine in place every single one of these instances, because then maybe the university hierarchy might do something about the hatred on a daily basis on their campuses.
One hundred percent agree, Yep, it's time for that sort of action. Now let's turn to Andrew Clenell's interview with Albanezi over the weekend, where the Prime Minister defended buying his cliff top mansion.
Not every decision that I make as a human being is through a focus group, is about politics. I've met someone I want to spend the rest of my life with, and what happens when people make that decision. If they're in a position too, they go and get a mortgage together.
Joe, he still doesn't understand why there was public backlash to this.
Yeah.
I think the PM's blessing and curse is that he is incredibly confident and he is also there I say, incredibly happy. He is happy in his personal life, whereas the rest of Australians are pretty miserable and extremely anxious. And he also I think has a pretty strong sort of she'll be right attitude, even when a lot of other people in the party and from outside are thinking, hang on a minute, this is going off a cliff here.
So I think I think he's certainly I think he's certainly perhaps so he's certainly getting it now and you can see that he's talking about it.
Yeah, I think the way he's worried, I.
Think the way that you the way that you hear him talking now. But I really appreciate Yeah.
Sorry, Cameron, come on, Joe, he's got to stop. He's got to stop using Jody. He's a human shield for his mistakes. A human shield. I mean, this guy bought a four point two million dollar retirement villa, He took count Us up grades, He took freebee tickets everywhere. This guy's been on a grave train for most of his thirty years, and suddenly Jody's the excuse for this guy has a pattern of behavior which is completely dismissive of
what we the public are suffering. He's cost a leading crisis and that's the Prime Minister and that's why he's so out of touch. But I think it's a terrible, terrible that Jodi gets trotted out now as some excuse for another another album mistake.
Well look, if you look at the polls, you know most the majority of Australians now think that Peter Darton is going to win. I mean the figures aren't quite there yet for Darton to have majority government, but the trend certainly in his direction.
Joe, Yeah, And I think, look, when you're going through an economic crisis again, people are going to be anxious, they are going to be worried. And when people are anxious and worried, they need someone to blame, and they will blame the government of the day. And that will happen no matter what color the government of the day is.
And the government of the day has to show that it has a pathway out of this that is credible, that people can understand and that people can believe, and that they have the sort of the trust if you like the credit in the bank to be able to deliver it. And I think a lot of people have felt and I know that many people I've spoken to, both critics and supporters of the PM have said they like him. He's a good guy. And again, but he just doesn't seem to be getting how worried people are,
how bad it is. And I think now he is, and I think we'll see from now until polling day that there will be more sort of meat on that bone and more clarity.
I mean, you say people are anxious and worried and it's a crisis, But Cameron, isn't it the case that often in a crisis or a national emergency, leaders stand up and they show what they're worth and people stick with them. That's not happening here, Apps.
No No one votes for a week leader in the middle of a crisis. No one votes for a week leaders. And that's what Albo is becoming. I mean, Albo is Peter Dutton's best friend in this election campaign. I mean Albo has been out since Christmas splaying money everywhere spraying at me. Which way billions and billions of dollars and his numbers are going backwards. Why because the more people see of elbow, the more they don't like labor.
Yeah, it's exactly right, exactly right.
The more they see of elbow lest they want to vote for him, all right, Joe Hildebrand, Kari Mirno, great to.
Have you as always.
Now, after the break, we're going to look at Donald Trump, how he's had a win over Columbia, plus his plan to clean out Gaza.
That's after this quick break.
Let's turn to the US now, where Donald Trump's crackdown on immigration has received a major boost, with Columbia backflipping on its earlier decision to reject deported migrants. In fact, the Columbian president has even offered to give up his presidential plane to help lighten the load. Okay, Sky News contributed Kosher Garda joins me. Now, Kosher, this is a stunning reversal.
Indeed it was.
It was a busy Sunday for Trump to cap off a very busy week one in his administration, and this issue, this reversal was so important both tactically and optically, so
in terms of tactics. It just really shows case how in a matter of four hours, I think that's how long this episode lasted on a Sunday afternoon, America is able to wield its economic might, which is Trump's favorite form of leverage, wielding tariffs and sanctioning people and suspending visas for Colombian citizens and diplomats and all of that, and that was able to get the outcome that he wanted. It's also really important optically because it is sending a message.
This has been his signature issue ever since he entered politics. This administration is taking illegal immigrations very very seriously. And next up it's going to be Guatemala and other countries that are apparently calling emergency meetings to figure out how to deal with this, because they're going to be coming up and faced with the same thing in the weeks ahead.
Kosher.
Trump has told reporters that he suggested to the King of Jordan that he should take more Palestinian refugees. Have a look, Okay, we'll play that clip hopefully in a minute.
Yeah, I should join.
I'd love to take on more because I'm looking at the whole guys, who's strip right now and it's a mask. You're talking about probably a million and a half people, and we just cleaned out that whole thing. It's literally a demolition side right now. Almost everything's demolished. The people are dying there. So I'd rather get involved with some of the Arab nations that built housing at a different location where they can maybe lived me.
It's any.
Hi Koch.
I mean Australia has issued nearly three thousand visas to Gazans, but the Arab nations haven't been pulling their weight.
Yes, those nations famously have not. They shut the door basically on any of them. Egypt certainly said that now this issue is complicated. Obviously there's different types of leverage and complexity involved. Trump's statement there approached it as a developer,
which is his roots and his core competency. And I think it's also politically savvy because it steps side or steps around the issue the Jordan in Egypt or sighting, which is this is a slippery slope to ending the two state solution that BA staunchly support, and so he's coming at it from just a developer and humanitarian lens.
It'll be interesting. He has frozen all new foreign aid to all countries except Egypt and Israel, and maybe that was part of his calculus where he's going to use that as another form of leverage to try and see if he can push them to take some more refugees.
Yeah.
Now Trump's pick fit Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth. He's finally been confirmed by the Senate, just very quickly. Kosha, how did this go down?
So this was as many expected because he was a little bit of an embattled pick. It was a fifty to fifty tie and then Vice President Jade Vance is able to cast the tie breaking vote, So all that matters is the final outcome.
He's in.
He's very different from defense secretaries of the past, and he's very much on board with Trump's agenda. So disruptive times ahead.
Indeed, all right, Kosha, Data, thank you so much for your time. Now, you don't want to miss my show tomorrow night. On Thursday night, as you know, I wasn't here. I went out with Strikeforce Pearl, that's the police task force investigating the anti Semitic attacks we've seen on our streets. I went out with the police on the road and I've also had a big sit down interview with the Assistant Commissioner in charge of counter Terrorism. It's a really
tough interview. I ask him about the hate, why there haven't been any arrests for hate crimes, Why the hate preachers are just allowed to say whatever they like. You don't want to miss tomorrow night's show. I've also got James Patterson on the show as well, so I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock.
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