Sharri | 27 February

Live on Sky News This is Sharry.

Good Evening Tonight, Scott Morrison accuses the Albanesi government of appeasing China. He asks if the Prime Minister is making excuses for Beijing or.

Just isn't across the detail.

That exclusive in a moment, plus the proof that Albanezi is behind the smear campaign on Peter Dutton. How an extraordinary admission live on air exposed the labor dirt Unit and Tony Burke goes into hiding to avoid answering questions about the Australians attending the funeral of terror leader Hassan Nasrala. Dave Sharma says some of them shouldn't be allowed home.

Regardless of how many times.

People have been to Beijing, and my full interview with Scott Morrison is on the sky Neese website.

You can read it there.

But Scott Morrison is someone who is clear right about the threat that China poses and all of our enemies. It's the moral clarity when not seeing from the Albanese government. The Prime Minister has basically covered up for Chinese aggression against our own country, while Penny Wong is meeting with the evil Iranian regime and the Palestinian leadership, but not Israel. This government is prioritizing our enemies who don't share our values, who want to destroy us, instead of our long standing

Well.

China issued, in accordance with practice, an alert that it would be conducting these activities, including the potential use of live fire. It is the case that the notice was given. When that occurs, airlines are notified and stay out of the area.

False false false airlines were not notified, notice was not given.

The Chief of the Defense False.

David Johnston, has revealed that Australia only was notified from New Zealand about the live weapons drill at eleven am last Friday.

We received at eleven zero one of the morning said that is approximately fifty minutes or somewhat less than an hour since that advice came to us from Air Services, and.

The Defense chief also says it's possible a Chinese nuclear powered submarine is underneath the Chinese warship flotilla. This is extremely aggressive and threatening conduct from the communist regime. The Abenezy government has had all of the excuses over this today, but every single one inadequate. The cover up for a hostile regime intimidating Australia is utterly extraordinary, and the Coalition has called for Albanesi to apologize for misleading the public.

I think the Prime Minister is either confused, he's mixed up in his details, or he's mislad and whatever it is, I think he needs to stand up and say, look, I got it wrong. I misunderstood the briefing that I had.

This is another indication of Albanese's lack of integrity and it will contribute to the trust deficit in his leadership.

But a far greater concern is how.

Australia is now exposed on national security. There could have been a major incident if one of the flights, God Forbid were shot down by China in a live weapons exercise. But this also sends a lackluster message to President She about Australia's strength or lack there of it in protecting our national interest and our sovereignty, and Albanesi's weakness has only been superseded by that of his Foreign Minister, Penny Wog.

Gaza, a ceasefire and.

Knowing Yim reports that she also attended a ministerial meeting hosted by Unrah. As you know, UNRA has links to terrorism, and while Pennywong met with our enemies, she demanded Israel stop its military action against the terror groups Hermas and Hezbelah, and she pushed for a Palestinian state despite the fact her MUSS is still the governing body in Gaza.

So Australia no longer sees Palestinian recognition as the destination of a peace process, but a contribution towards momentum. Momentum towards peace. Australia wants to engage on new ways to build momentum, including the role of the Security Council and setting a pathway for two states with a clear timeline for the international declaration of Palestinian statehood.

Shadow Foreign Affairs Minister David Coleman said Penny Wong had shamefully abandoned our long standing democratic ally.

The Prime Minister was there, no doubt there were other Israeli officials there. She could have met with them, she didn't, and I think that's consistent with the Foreign Minister's approach on this issue overall. She has shamefully abandoned Israel in pursuit of a few votes in inner city contests against the Greens.

It is utterly wrong.

So we have both alban Easy and Penny Wong prioritizing Australia's enemies hostile nations over our allies. How morally confused, How treacherous for Penniwong to meet with the Palestinian authority which has supported the October seven attacks, and Iran, which is part of the Axis of evil. At the same time, she's alienated our traditional strategic ally, Israel that shares our

My jaw fell to the floor. Why Because I was there.

I was there at that time, and I saw the Australian economy on fire. I saw the Australian share market fall by more than sixty percent, destroying wealth for millions of Australians and most importantly, I saw every Australian political leader, the government, the opposite, public servants working every single day tirelessly to save Australia and save Australians. But what we now know is that there was one political leader who

And he continued to mount the case against Dutton's purchase of Bangsches in two thousand and nine. But then six minutes into the interview, Sarah Ferguson asked Andrew Charlton how long he'd known about Dutton's share buy app four. Now, when you watch this clip, remember that Alban Eazy pretended he knew nothing about this when he was asked yesterday. And Charlton, who is a regular on this program, well, he has too much integrity to lie, and so he didn't say like.

The others would have. Voh, I just read about it.

I learned about it in the media, he said, Actually, this came from the Prime Minister's Let's have a look.

You said earlier on that your jaw dropped when you learned this piece of information. When did you learn it?

I learned it when I saw the information that had come out that had come out in relation to his register of interest You mean this week?

No, before this week.

I was made aware of it by whom by the Prime Minister's office, who had been looking at it.

So how long had the Prime Minister's office been looking at it?

I don't know the answer to that question. But what I do know is that Peter Dutton has built his Prime minister his Opposition leadership of accusations and criticism, and now for the first time he is getting those questions coming at him and he's unable to answer them.

Sarah Ferguson is the ABC's best political interviewer by a mile. She can be brutal and terrifying and she didn't let this go.

What you're saying is the government had access to this information, was in possession of that, Anthony ALBERANIZI was in possession of this information before it was before it appeared in the media.

Absolutely.

I mean it is the government's job at a time when we're all looking at register of members' interests to look at this information.

Does that suggest that this is, as the Opposition says, an attempt to slur Peter Dutton, Because clearly, when the government had the information. They didn't release it straight away. If it was of such enormous ethical importance, as you suggest, why not release it that day? Why save it up?

I'm not sure it was saved up at all. I think it was released promptly.

Well, how promptly? When did you become aware of it.

Reasonably shortly before it was made available?

Maybe?

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, mister Chelton, but what's reasonably?

So very happy to answer this question, it been a matter of days or weeks.

Yeah, days or weeks, so as long ago as seven days.

Ago, could have been more than seven days ago, yet more than.

Seven days ago. So the government has been sitting on this piece of information for at least a week, but could be more.

I'm not sure the government was sitting on it. I'm not sure how their information flowed, but certainly this was something that we were all looking out in relation to the members interests.

This is extraordinary.

You never see anything like this a government politician, a senior one, saying publicly on national television that the Prime Minister has had his offers digging up dirt on the opposition leader and was sitting on it and waiting for the opportune time.

Politically to release it.

I mean, this sort of revelation has simply never happened before. It is massive, and Sarah Ferguson knew that, and she kept going.

But doesn't the government also have questions to answer about the way it handles information, the way it handles itself. How long have they been sitting on this information about Peter Dutton, choosing a moment to release it that, presumably, in their view, is the most destructive it can be for the leader of the opposition.

I'm not sure that's the case at all, Sarah.

I'm honestly not sure that this is a case of the government sitting on information at all. I mean, if it's a matter of seven days, of course this information deserves scrutiny.

The only thing I would say is that, on the face of it, it's a relatively simple It's a relatively simple set of questions. There's a series of updates to his share registry. There's not a great deal of checking that needs to go on, So why hang on to it.

I'm not sure it was hung on too for a long time. Sarah. I'm not sure that's the case at all.

We'll put that question to the Prime Minister. I wonder does this series of questions posed to Peter Dutton in this way with a delay suggests that there's a dirty campaign coming.

I'm not sure there was a delay of consequence, Sarah, as you suggested in relation to timing. I think it's this information that needs to be carefully checked.

Now, Sarah Ferguson had spent the first six minutes of the interview drilling into the claims against Dutton, and the next half and obtaining an admission about Labour's dirt unit and proof that Labour sat on this until it could

Prime Minister, what's wrong with Dutton making money out of property?

Haven't you as well?

I make no comment about Peter Dutton's matters that to matter for him.

The Prime Minister today done quite an extensive property investment, for as his use of the use of the trust fund.

Past the pop test.

It's a matter for.

Peter Dutton, yep, matter for him, nothing to do with me. Well, I told you last night that alber Ezi was behind these attacks, that Labour's research unit is the most sophisticated in the Canberra Press gallery. It's been behind many attacks on liberals. But these stories on Dutton only emerged after Albanzi was asked this question on Friday.

You got a lot of flack, possibly unfair so on buying a lovely new home in Copa Gamana.

I've never heard you explain before.

Are you negatively gearing it?

Seriously, I'll swap my property portfolio with Peter's.

Now we still don't know the full story about whether Albanesi has negatively geared his rental properties. Now, that's not a big deal to any of us, but Labor despises negative gearing. They've been wanting to kill it off for years. So for Albanzi, his base would hate it.

Now.

The Prime Minister is a political animal. He wouldn't think twice of having a taxpayer funded dirt unit dig up rumors about Peter Dutton's life. It's why it's so laughable that Albanezi promised integrity in public office. He promised to do politics differently and that was never going to happen because remember he's the guy whose ambition wasn't to lead Australia but to beat the Tories.

I like fighting Tories.

That's what I do. That's what I do.

Now.

Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson today said Albanese should give a full explanation for how he's been misusing taxpayer funds to investigate Peter Dutton.

The Prime Minister should explain today when he first instructed his staff to engage in this dirt digging exercise, whether he thinks's appropriate that they've been spending their time on these activities, how much taxpayers money has been spent digging dirt on the opposition later, and whether or not he'll promise to engage in a clean campaign from here on out and actually talk about his own record over the last three years and his own plans for the future of Australia.

So Patterson there says that Albanize should talk about his plans for the future of Australia. But Albaneze, he can't articulate this vision for the nation because he doesn't have one. He never had one. He never expected to become the leader of our country, and now that he is, he flounders. At every point when Australia has cried out for leadership, he's been absent. He lacks the resolve, the conviction, the values, or the moral fortitude to govern as.

Our nation demands.

The only thing Albaneze can rely on to try and win the next election is a tax on Peter Dutton, trying to turn him into a villain like he did with Scott Morrison. This is the low cynical politics we can expect as the election looms. But at least it's out in the open now thanks to the honesty and integrity.

Of Andrew Charlton.

All right, let's bring in now National Senator Matt Canavan and former Labor Minister Graham Richardson. Well, Matt, this was an extraordinary admission from a Labor MP.

Yeah.

Look, who would have thought there's an must be down there in Canberra. I don't think there's too many of them. I I try and do that, but look it's blowing out exposed the whole Labor Party campaign here this week.

Look this sort of stuff goes on.

Of course, none of us are are immune to that, or not even enough not to think it happens. I think what it really is the major issue here is, time and time again, the Prime Minister just look shifty. He can't find a way it's okay not maybe reveal all the details, but not.

Not look like he's just got something to hide.

We see that on the Chinese live fire drills this week where he's been all over the place. We've seen it on the caravan dural that nearly and faithfully didn't cause massive devastation.

And here too.

You know, as I say, you know, sure politicians dig and throw mud from time to time, they do that, and then the Prime Minister trying to say no, it's not me.

I'm distant from that.

You know, it just undermines his own credibility more than perhaps just being a little bit more honest, maybe not was fulsome a little more honest like Andrew Charlton was.

Richard, you're obviously good mates with a prime minister. I mean, he would have been absolutely furious, would he have what would he have done or do you know did he blow up at Andrew Charlton.

I don't think he'd have been too happy, but I don't think he'd blow up. It's it's not that big a deal. I've been listening to all of this and we really are pumping this up into something that just isn't This is a very small incident and it'll be forgotten next week.

I don't know about that. It's not going to be forgotten.

This revelation that Labor has a dirt unit that's digging up dirt on dutt and every time there's an attack. Now, this is what Peter Dunnan is going to come, come up, come back with everybody. You were using taxpayer funds to dig up dirt on me during theody.

He knew that unit existed. It was not a secret, never has been. So there's idea old shock horror they've got this unit. When I learn a rubbish they all knew.

Yeah, well we know because where you know.

I'm a journalist, I know how good the unit is, best in the business, but not everyone knows about it.

Now have a look at this.

Speaking of Albanezi, Now we wouldn't normally talk about dramas that go on in the FM radio world, but the Prime Minister today weighed in on this Maddie sheer Gold drama.

The former Triple M host.

He made inappropriate comments about women's soccer and the Matildas. But why I want to talk about it is because I can't notice how fired up Albanezy was on this and he went a lot harder on this issue than he has on the Australians that flew to Lebanon to mourn a dead terrorist leader.

Have a look completely unacceptable. The Tillies are just legends. Women's and girls sport has been a revolution in my lifetime. He also made some comments as well about endo, yeah being real. You know, we need to respect each other and disrespecting more than half the population is not on a share does his job and scrutinizes intelligence issues on behalf of Australia.

Matt Canavan, I mean, is the Prime Minister actually capable of speaking about national security matters in a way that indicates he cares about it?

Look, he does seem to be pretty fine up about this incident. I mean, I saw the Prime Minister just a couple of weeks ago, I think, on the front page of a major newspaper saying he wasn't work he's not a white guy. But then he's doubling down this sort of cancel culture. And look, I don't know, I didn't see everything that was he a comedian or DJ said, and it might have been a bit rebaled, but I'm not into this cancel culture.

And look, who really cares? Why isn't the.

Primeister focusing on things that are much more important to people instead of trying to police the speech of shop job radio star on FM radio. I mean, look, look what are the FM radio states said? He goes on these shows. He goes on shows with one of the most crude things it said, But look, who cares? Focus on your job? And he just doesn't seem to have

Their cost of living and of course with the.

Geopolitical threats, to the threats of Chinese ships running down our coast and firing off, and the Prime Minister seems to know more about what an FM shop jock is saying than what the Chinese navy are doing off our shows.

Such an excellent point, but also the point you just made their Matt that he's very comfortable going on. You were talking about Kyle and Jackio. That's what you're implying, very comfortable going on Kyle and Jackio's show. Kyle regularly says far worse things. I don't mind it, it doesn't offend me. But he says far worse things, more offensive things, and yet he went to Kyle's wedding.

Albo.

You know they're good mates. Kyle will probably go to his wedding. I mean, it's the hypocrisy of it, Richro. But back to the weakness of Albineze's response that he couldn't strongly call out the fact that Australians are flying to Lebanon to go to Hassan Nasrala's funeral. This has been our revelation over the past two nights.

Well.

The fact that there are some Australians who would do that is hardly a shock. I mean, we've known about the people here supporting Hamas, supporting Azbalah. We have demonstrations where they do it. It's not a shock. I mean, it's something we all know about now. I think that it's a pretty grubby exercise to support grubs like that. I just I don't understand it and I never will.

All right, well we have to differ on that point. But very quick prediction from you, guys. We're out of time, Richro, you think the election is going to be called this weekend?

I think this weekend or the weekend after, but probably just favor this weekend.

And what about you, Matt?

Yeah, our voice Sotay's going to hold on. I think he's very indecisive at the moment, so we'll wait and see.

Everyone does seem to think this weekend, so I might be wrong.

There you go, all right, rich O Matt Canavan, thank you both so much.

Thanks.

All right, well, let's return to Labour's don't unit, and I'm joined now by The Australian's chief political correspondent Jeff Chambers.

Jeff, great to see you. Now.

Normally the government would wait to release dirt like they have on Dutton's Shares until the start of the election campaign.

They've done it ahead of the election campaign.

Does this give you any indication about when the election will be called?

Oh?

Hi, Sharry, I think there's been a lot of indications, but what we're seeing with this dirt unit material and the early release of it is they're trying to obviously

Now.

I heard you talking to the other guys there about election timing. My mail has been pretty consistent on this and the consensus is landing pretty firmly on April twelve, So that would mean not this weekend.

That means that immediately.

After the March eighth Western Australia state election, you could expect the Prime Minister to head to Yarralumla. But another interesting fact is on Sunday, March to the Prime Minister and his Treasurer Jim Chalmers share of birthday so sixty two and forty seven, and I heard the Prime Minister on commercial radio this morning, getting asked will he call it on the weekend, and he said it's my birthday on.

Sunday, meaning no, not going to call it on his birthday.

No.

I think it does make sense, as you say, and I've heard it as well, that he'll wait until the Wa state election and then call it afterwards, maybe that Sunday the ninth. By the way, for what it's worth, my birthdays March the eighth, So a lot of birthdays at least in politics at this time of year. But we do keep hearing rumors that it could be this weekend.

Yeah, And I think the other point is this second administration is much more hard line in terms of their positions. And Howard Lutnik, who's the newly minted US Commerce Secretary, he's very very strong on tariffs and his position is he doesn't want to give anyone exemptions. So there have been multiple conversations, including with the Prime Minister and Donald Trump. But we have got that March twelve deadline looming large and if we were to see an election called around

Indeed.

All right, Jeff Chambers, thank you so much, and we will continue to read your insight for reporting.

Appreciate your time. And by the way, just on the election date.

It also could be the fifth of April, because the April twelve is the start of Passover and there is a concern that that might not be the best date to have the election. Now still to come the heartbreaking moments from Yard and Bibas's eulogy, and Israeli Major General will be.

On set to discuss.

But first, why is Tony Burkin hiding over the Australians attending a terror leader's funeral? Dave Sharma will get stuck in after this break.

Welcome back.

Well, let's return to Pennywog snubbing Israel will still making the time to meet with Iran and the Palestinian authority. I spoke about it with Liberal Senator Dave Sharma a little earlier.

Dave Sharma, great to see you again.

Look what was your reaction when you were able to confirm, under your excellent interrogation that Pennywog hadn't met with any Israeli officials at all, but yet had met with the Iranian Foreign Minister, the Palestinian West Bank Prime Minister and others.

Well, I was staggered and bear in mind sharing. This is a foreign minister who talks about Israel more than she does almost any other topic. She's almost obsessed with the Middle East and Israel's behavior. So you would think when she's going to the UN, when she's changing our votes on a number of UN resolutions, when she's giving a speech at the UN which is almost entirely focused on the Israeli Aram conflict, she would bother to seek

Do you think it's got to the point where it's bordering on treachery or disloyalty. I mean, it seems to be treating Australia's enemies who don't share our values of freedom and democracy. Treating those enemies better, then she's treating us strategic and long term meant to be bipartisan allies.

Well, that's right.

I mean, Israel is a longstanding friend and partner of Australia and I would say it's still one of the most important relationships we have on any metric in the Middle East for looking out for Australian interests.

So even on the.

Coldhearted national interest calculations, this is an important relationship. But what we have seen this government, this Labor government do time and tom again, Minister Pennywong do time and tom again, is go out of their way to insult Israel, to trash the relationship, whether it's calling in the Israeli ambassador for addressing down by a junior minister, whether it's appointing a former chief of the Defense Force to conduct an

I want to get you a comment about this scandal over the Chinese warships and the life fire drill exercises. We've heard different versions of events from Alban Easy, from Richard Miles, and from others. Do you think the Prime Minister has misled the public? Do you think he needs to apologize? And again, do you think is not defending our sovereignty and our national interest enough?

I think the Prime Minister has misled the public. Whether it was intentionally or out of ignorance, I'm not sure. But I think more importantly, perhaps his government has also let down the public. I mean it has taken US Coalition senators in Senate estimates, asking questions of defense officials, foreign affairs officials and others to piece together exactly what happened and some of the grievous missteps that have taken place along the way. So we've got Anthony Albernezi saying

I just want to ask you about Tony Burke. He has given inadequate responses. In fact, he's been accused of going into hiding by James Patterson over I've revealed over two nights that Australians have flown to Lebanon to attend the funeral of Hassan Nasralla, the former HESBELA leader, longtime, longtime HESBELA leader. Yet Tony Burke hasn't strongly condemned this,

Back into the country.

There are so many questions here, Dave. What are your thoughts on what actions should be taken given we've named and shamed, we've exposed Australians flying to Lebanon to attend the funeral of a terrorist leader.

Well, I think certainly, given the level of social unrest and the unprecedented levels of anti semitism we have seen in Australia. We need to be keeping a very close eye on anyone who harbors or has sympathies for, or affections towards a listed terrorist organization like Kesbala and that goes over to mourn the death of a terrorist leader Hassan Australia. I mean that should be an immense concern

All right, Dave Sharma, thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate it.

Thanks so much, Sherry, And coming.

Up after the break, we'll take a look at the heartbreaking eulogy of Yard and Bibas plus Donald Trump z Elon Musk at his first cabinet meeting.

Well should he have been there?

I'll speak to Adam Crichton about this all coming up on the show.

Welcome Back.

Well.

Just after we went to air last night, Israel was at a standstill as yard In Bibas said farewell to his wife Shiri and their two beautiful boys, Ariel and Kifir. The eulogy was unbearably heartbreaking and sad.

Here was his message to his wife Shari, Shari.

I love you and will always love you. Shari, you are everything to me. You are the best wife and mother there could be.

It was in Hebrews, so of course that's a translation. He also talked about his first child, Ariel, who was just four when.

He was kidnapped.

Ariel, you made me a father, You transformed us into a family. You taught me what truly matters in life and about responsibility.

And then he finally paid respects to his baby Kafir, stolen at just nine months old.

Fear, I didn't think our family could be more perfect, and then you came and made it even more perfect.

All right?

Retired Israeli Major General Noah Tibon joins me now here in Australia.

Welcome to the show that was so hard to watch. It was unbearably sad.

Yarden's story, the Bibas story has really captured the hearts of all of Israel and everyone came out or stopped what they were doing to watch their eulogy.

It's a terrible story all over the world because you know, those a regular family in their house and October seven, their key boots was attacked, they were kidnapped, Sheer and the kids were killed by the animals of Ramas and you are then really suffered many months and I think the Israeli people were united behind this, but I want to remind when we're talking right now, that the Israeli

Yeah, and there are still hostages remaining in Gaza.

Just today we had.

Four bodies Israeli bodies. Former hostages have been returned. One of them it's Saki. You're done. His daughter, eighteen years old, was murdered in their home. They were all held at gunpoint, then he was kidnapped. The family have released some footage today.

We just have a quick look at that.

If we have that, a terrified family held at gunpoint by her mass it's shocking and upsetting to watch, but they wanted us to show their ordeal.

And just offscreen from where that family where, the family of t Saki done, his eighteen year old daughter already dead. Now this is close to the Kiboots where your family lived.

It's the same keyboats, Keyboots Nahalos and basically a new Tahi because he is my son, neighbor. And when I rushed on October seventh to rescue my family, unfortunately we came because of the battles a little bit too late for Tahi but he left Israel alive walking, and that's why it's so said, and we are so angry because again he should be back home alive. He was killed by Ramas, but again he was abandoned by the Israeli government and it took too long to bring them back home.

The second part of thee.

Yeah, this is very important, and we are looking at Whitkov and to Nataniel and said, don't stop now. First of all, bring all the hostages back home. This is the most important goal of the war. And then we will go to the second goal, which is to replace Hamas, because Hamas cannot control gods anymore.

There are different views about whether that second deal should go ahead. There are different views in Israel at the moment. You know, some people, of course are saying prioritize the hostages, get those remaining hostages who are alive home. But others are so angry at Hermas, and perhaps even Trump supports this view, perhaps that Natan yahoo that Israel should go back in and defeat Harmas immediately.

This debate is playing.

Out right now. This is the debate in Israel. So one thing for sure, if we will go back to war right now, the hostages that we are still heaving the Rama's hands, which are alive, young people will not survive because they are in such a terrible condition. And that's why I think there is priorities in this situation, and in war you don't have good priorities.

It's already been such a heavy price to pay it. And you know I've said before you as a family member, you pay absolutely any price. But thousands of Palestinian terrorists have been released from Israeli prisons in order to get innocent hostages.

Home, even dead bodies home.

You know, those terrorists could go on to cause untold carnage.

You know, when I was in uniform years ago, I caught some of them. I know what kind of killer they are. But let's go back to Judaism, and let's go back to our dinners, Israelis. We need to bring our brother and sister home alive. This is an open wound. The majority in all the polls, the majority of the Israeli population said yes, we are willing to do everything, includes stop the war in order to bring them home. So I think right now we are at the junction.

Hostages and then defeating her mask.

And then defeat Hamas and bring somebody else to control gather because Hamas cannot stay in control.

On that, I'm sure everybody can agree, Major General, and honored to have you on the program. Thank you for your time. Now, don't go anywhere after the break. Should Elon Musk have been the star of Donald Trump's first cabinet Adam Crichton will join me next. Well, Donald Trump has had his first cabinet meeting and the star of the show seemed to be Elon Musk.

Now, Trump praised.

Him, but Musk sorted downplay his own role in the administration.

He's got businesses their own and in many ways this you know, Shakri facing a.

Thank you MS President, I will I actually just put myself for a couple tech support here and.

Let's bring in now Adam Crichton, fresh from the US and now with the Institute of Public Affairs in Melbourne.

Great to see you, Adam.

Look what's your analysis as how this cabinet meeting played out? And should Elon Musk have been given so much attention, given there were so many other important people in that room.

Yeah, well, certainly it's presentationally unusual. That's certainly the case. I can't imagine one hundred and ten years ago that John Rockefeller would have been in the same cabinet meeting with Theodore Roosevelt. But these are certainly interesting times. They're

There's also obviously been a lot of discussion about the way that Trump has been trying to get a deal between Ukraine and Russia to end the war. He's been making all sorts of pretty awful accusations against President Zelenski.

But now we're hearing that.

President Zelenski is set to fly over to sign a deal on minerals.

Here was Trump's reaction.

The President's Olyndsey's coming to sign the deal. And it's a great thing. It's a great deal for Ukraine.

Too, because they get us over there and we're going to be working over there.

We'll be on the land, and you know, in that way, it's there's sort of automatic security because nobody's going to be messing around with other people.

So, Adam, this is to do with the amount of US money that's gone to Ukraine.

Yes, that's right. So Trump wants some of this money back through various contractual deals over minerals. Some people say they don't actually have many minerals. Donald Trump's confused about this. But look, I think it's good that Trump is talking

Look, we haven't.

We have not seen the final deal yet. You know, Trump says a lot of things, but let's just wait until we see the black letter of this deal. Okay, let's just wait and see.

Yeah, so we can be very critical on the fact that he calls ze Landscap dictator, but let's give him the benefit of the doubt until we see where this lands.

Now, this has caused all sorts.

Of mayhem on social media, which has been quite fun to watch. Donald Trump's I don't know if he uploaded it, if he has control of his social media account, who knows, But his social media account has uploaded an AI generated Gaza video.

Have a look, No more tunnels, No more.

Right Trump number one.

And it ends with Trump and Nattigna who with no shirts on. I mean, if it's a I wouldn't they have given themselves better physiques in that version of the video.

But they're kind of sound baking by Paul Adam.

I mean, everyone's having you go at this, but the bottom line is right now, Gaza is a terrorist controlled hotspot, which is not good for the Palestinians to live in. You know, I think Trump's trying to say, with investment and without terrorism, the place could be transformed.

There could be a better future.

Yeah, look, you know, I think that's true. I think, you know, if if if that video that that Trump posted was a reality and the alternative was the current status, Oh, I'm sure ninety percent of Palace Statians would rather be in that, you know, be in that ai world. But on the other hand, I can understand why, you know, the Arab side of things are upset about. There's a lot of people have died. But also, you know, you've got to take a step back with Trump. I mean,

Say, yeah, well, it's got to be better than at the moment where there's just terrorism and death. Any change is better than that. At least there's a vision here. But still my favorite Trump movement. I'm just raising with you, Adam, because we haven't spoken about it yet. Other paper straws. Getting rid of the paper straws. Please can someone do that Australia. All right, Adam Crichton, thank you.

So much for your time. Great to see you again.

Good time you back in Australia, and thanks everyone for your company this week. I'll see you Monday at eight o'clock. But right now, here's poor Murray in Las Vegas.