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Sharri | 26 February

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Tony Burke has failed this challenge, Labor’s dirt campaign kicks into overdrive, Dutton’s property portfolio targeted, PM ‘misled’ public over Chinese drills. Plus, thousands farewell the Bibas family.

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Speaker 1

Live on Sky News.

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This is Shari.

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Good Evening Tonight our exclusive report that intelligence agencies are investigating Australians who've flown to Lebanon for a terror leader's funeral. This as we expose more people who are openly supporting Hesbela dirty politics. The Albanezy government behind in the polls launches personal attacks on Peter Dutton. The Prime Minister is also exposed for protecting China over the live fire drill

in the Tasman Sea. The Bivas family has hit out at Prime Minister Albanezi for his callous response to the grotesque coffin spectacle. My exclusive report coming up, and of course we'll broadcast the Bibas family funeral live. The eulogies will start at eight thirty tonight our time. Right in the middle of our show, we'll cross to Israel as father and husband Yadin speaks for the first time and

as we all farewell his beautiful boys. But first tonight I can exclusively reveal that intelligence and security agencies are investigating the Australians attending the funeral of terror leader Hassan Nasrallah. We can also tonight expose more Australians who are at the Hasbel Alder's funeral, including a photographer and a kid's footy coach. Government sources told me today that the agencies are examining the Australians who attended the funeral services commemorating

one of the world's worst terrorists. They include Abed Almajid Mortada, Miriam.

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Ishak Zein and Hassan Jeba.

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We also showed a group of individuals last night who claim to be the AUSSI crew. In a moment, Taal exposed more Australians who attended the funeral of the terror leader responsible for murdering thousands of innocent.

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People around the world.

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Some of the individuals discussed last night were already known to the intelligence agencies and there's now a question over how the alban Easy government, Home Affairs, Bodiforce and the agencies will handle this. Will they allow these individuals to come back into the country or will Tony Burke investigate using the powers to block their return and he has

those powers. AZEO Director General Mike Burgess told Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson last night in Senate estimates that Australia can temporarily prevent someone returning to the country if authorities believe they pose a threat.

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There are Australians will have a right to return. That there is temporary exclusion orders that can be applied in some so circumstances that would control that return in a manner which was enabled the issue to be managed effectively by authorities, including ASIO.

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Mike Burgess made it very clear he would be concerned if he learned that Australians were traveling overseas to participate in an event organized by a listed terror group, and he said it could be unlawful.

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As a security service, I'd be regardless of whether it's listed or not, if they were going to an event, whether a vile extremists or known terrorists, we would be interested. As Australia's security service. The fact that an organization is listed is sending a message to society that's a listed terrorist organization and actually there are criminal penalties for engaging with or being a member of such group.

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The Prime Minister had a shockingly weak response to this very serious matter.

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Today, a share does his job and scrutinizes intelligence issues on behalf of Australia.

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How can the leader of a democracy not even condemn attending an event honoring a terrorist, he couldn't be more of a wet lettice. Peter Dutton, much stronger, said there was no place for terror supporters in our country.

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I find it deeply disturbing. It's like somebody attending the funeral of Adolf Hitler or somebody who had been responsible for deaths of many people at listed terrorist organization, and a person who is the head of a listed terrorist

organization is not something to be to be praised. If we've got people here who hate our country, who hate a part of our country, whether it's the Jewish community or Hindus or people of Asian extraction, or because of somebody's religion or no religion, they have no place in our country.

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And now we can't expose more Australians.

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Who are at the funeral.

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Here's Australian artist Tom Toby who wrote on social media on the saddest day of my life, I am honored to be a servant, a servant of the faithful, a servant of the truth, a servant of the heroes, a servant of history, but above all, a servant of the profound legacy. Now, after Nazreala was killed in September, Tom spoke at a rally in Sydney where he yelled long live the Resistance.

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Come and meet us and know what it is to meet resistance. They are such an exemptlar group of people because when they stand before that disgusting, the crepit, dermonic, zionist, janacidal entity, they say to them, why why do you want to fly blames?

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Come and meet.

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Us in.

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I attempted to contact Tom today but I haven't as yet heard back. Another Australian, Hussein, posted dozens of videos all day from the funeral. He spoke about how the Israeli planes were trying to scare him, and then he posted as he was walking to the burial site later.

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In Sydney in his spare time.

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He's a kid's footy coach and he just seems like a regular dat who apparently supports Hesbelah.

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Now he is.

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Another Australian known online as ass Sabra. He clearly wanted me to know that he was at the Hasbla Leita's funeral too, because overnight he tagged me in an Instagram post.

As you can see there, it says Hi Shari Markson and he's standing next to another Australian who I told you about last night is shak Zane And as you can see in this next footage, he filmed Nazarella's funeral and he shared it all online and after October seven he shared videos on Twitter on x showing the cap of israelis the taking of hostages by Himus with a

caption apartheid Israel. Now I should warn you this next footage is distressing and that part we blurred was a hostage who was captured and was.

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Being dragged on the ground.

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Now we've asked Tony Burke today what he's going to do about all of this. Firstly, we asked him, does he condemn this in the strongest terms? Is he asking authorities to immediately investigate criminal charges given associating with Hesbelah in some circumstances is a serious terror offense under the Commonwealth Criminal Code. Also, whether these people will be allowed back in the country. He needs to examine all the circumstances,

including their citizenship status, whether they're on a visa. Well, you won't believe it, maybe you will. This is what Tony Burk's office said to us in response to those questions.

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We don't have anything.

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To add to the comments made by Director General Burgess last night at Senate estimates he couldn't even condemn Australians mourning a terror leader, traveling halfway across the world to attend the funeral of a terror leader. Well, this is what a proper response looks like. This is from Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson, who said Tony Burke should

come out of hiding and do his job. If these Nazuela funeral attendees were on visas, they should have already been canceled to prevent them returning to Australia.

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He can use.

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Temporary exclusion orders to stop Australian citizens returning while they are investigated for associated with a listed terror organization, but that would require him to put the national interest before his political interest, which he so far has been reluctant to do.

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Now.

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Jewish leader Alex Rifchin spoke about the extent of Hesbela support here in Australia when he was on with Chris Kenny earlier.

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None of this is a surprise because we've seen for sixteen months people walking in the streets of our major cities holding aloft the portraits of Hassan Israela. We've seen mosques in Sydney holding ceremonies to ho In Israela and other fallen Hesbala operatives. So we know that we have this problem in our society. We know there are people amongst us who are sympathetic to this ideology, who view

Hasbillah and Israela as being heroes to be emulated. And that is a very dangerous and chilling thing that we're dealing with.

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Dangerous and chilling.

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Indeed, we need the Australian government to take strong action here to protect all Australians. It's appalling that these individuals feel so emboldened that they can't only fly to attend an event organized by a listed terror organization, but they feel feel so comfortable posting about it online. It's because this shocking conduct has been tolerated. It's because police never take any action against terror supporters despite the laws available

to them. They've allowed support for terrorism, for the most barbaric of crimes to become normalized in our country. The attitude of Tony Burke and Anthony Albanesi simply isn't good enough. They don't deserve to be the Prime Minister and Home Affairs minister, charged with national security and social cohesion. Our message must be unambiguous and uncompromising. It must be that we have zero tolerance for terror and that those who align themselves with the enemies of democracy, freedom and peace

have no place in our country or our society. Now, as you can see at the corner of our TV screen, we do have and we'll bring it back right now, we've got live scenes from Tel Aviv. The funeral procession for the Bibas family is underway. The actual eulogies the ceremony will begin at eight thirty pm our time, that's eleven thirty in Israel, and when it does, we will cross straight to it.

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But now let's have a look at the mud.

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Slinging that we've seen take place today. The infamous Labor Dought unit is in full swing against Peter Dutton. Multiple reports have emerged in media outlets scrutinizing Dutton's legal purchase of shares seventeen years ago, his property purchases too. Now the Prime Minister today pretended he had nothing to do with any of this.

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Prime Minister, what's wrong with Dutton making money out of property? Haven't you as well?

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I made no comment about Peter Dutton's uh matters. That's the matter for him.

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Prime Minister immicated today done quite an extensive property investment.

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Does his use of the use of the trust fund the past the pop test.

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It's a matter for Peter Dutton.

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But this denial is curious because back on Friday, when Alban Easy was questioned about whether Heat negatively geared he's Copa Cabana holiday house, well, he suggested the journalist examine Dutton's property portfolio.

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You've got a lot of flack, possibly unfairly so on buying a lovely new home in Copa, Goamana. I've never heard you explain before.

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Are you negatively gearing it?

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Seriously? I'll swap my property portfolio with Peters.

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Yeah.

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So it doesn't really stack up that the Prime Minister now isn't behind this attack on Dutton's properties and wealth, given he literally raised it with a journalist while he was being filmed on Friday, and then suddenly all of these stories have appeared this week. Peter Dutton today, for what it's worth, he defended his record.

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I mean they've trowled through every transaction of my life, for my entire adult life, and they've come up with the fact that we've bought and sold properties.

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Yet labor ministers use the revelations to claim Peter Dutton didn't understand cost of living pressures.

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He should have declared these property transactions as he's required to do as a member of Parliament. But secondly, I think it gives some insight into why he doesn't think that it's important that governments invest in homes. He's been able to amass a property empire of himself, and good

luck to him, he's bought and sold homes. But I don't think that he should be standing in the way and threatening to cut a fund that is actually delivering homes for essential workers, for women fleeing domestic violence, for veterans. They're the people who need homes, people like Peter Dutton and me.

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This is typical labor playbook. Their dirt unit is the best in the business. And I can tell you that as a former Press Gallery political editor. Peter Dutton slammed the Prime Minister over these dirty tactics.

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The Prime Minister's office is shopping around dirt sheets at the moment, transactions that go back to when I was twenty years of age, that much is obvious, and I think the Prime Minister's office has tried to shop this story to a dozen journalists. One has picked it up and the others have seen fit not to. I think it reflects poorly on the Prime Minister and the desperation that he's in at the moment.

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The election campaign hasn't even officially begun, but we've already seen Alberizi roll out many scare the same scare campaign from the twenty sixteen election, and now a grubby attack on Peter Dutton's homes.

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And by the.

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Way, we still don't have the answer on where the Albanesi has negatively geared his properties. That's the question that kicked all of this off after all. All right, we're on standby to take you to the Bibas family funeral. But now let's bring in former Victorian Liberal Party president Michael Kroeger and Quillette founder Claire Lehman. Welcome to you both, and let's start with this scare campaign on Dutton's property portfolio.

I mean, Michael Kroger, do you think, from your extensive experience in politics, these sort of tactics work with voters?

Speaker 12

Well, they can work if it forces the resignation of the political figure and involved. But they've fired a blank so far. Peter Creedlin on her shows answered the question about the share acquisitions, and you know, you send someone like Murray, what in Murray's never had a job in the industry. Mary's been a staffer and and a politician and a lawyer. Doesn't seem to understand that the Dutton family,

Peter Dutton and his father were in the construction business. Well, Murray, what you do in the construction business is you buy a block of land, if you've got a building license, you build a house. You then on sell it and you make a profit. You go onto the next one. You do that multiple times. You might, as the Duttons did, I gather buy an old Chilker center land in buildings or a house renovated into a childcer center, on sell it, and you do that for as many times as you can.

That's what people do in the construction industry. Builders build homes and they sell them. They buy the block of land, it's ub divide it, they build a house and sell it. So he's sort of attacking, you know, the fact that the Duttons were in business in the building industry. So anyone in the building construction industry looking at this is absolutely laughing at Murray Watt because it just shows you

he's got no idea how industry works. But look at another level, this is not working because people can't pay their mortgages, they can't buy food, right, That's how bad things are in Australia today. What they want from albo is what is his grand and for a second term and all they see is this much breaking by Murray Watt. It's not helping Olbot. No, it makes it very clear to people at the Cupboins Bear.

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It's a good point.

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Albanezy hasn't outlined any vision or agenda for his second term.

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But you know, Claire back to this, it strikes me that.

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It's a little bit early for the dirt unit to kick off. We're not officially in the election campaign yet.

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It is a little bit early.

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But I would just push back on some of the comments that have been shared tonight and argue that it is a problem for the Liberal Party. It's a problem because they have issues attracting young people and we all know the statistics now, you know in the nineteen eighties, for example, you would need three times the median wage.

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The median salary to afford a median home now.

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It's something like thirteen times, So people on a median wage in Sydney cannot afford a median home. And you're getting to the point where young people of a younger generation have to say for a deposit their whole you know, for take many years to say for a deposit.

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Then when they.

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Earn enough to service a mortgage, they're in their forties, they go to the bank.

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They're too old for a loan.

Speaker 14

So we're locking our society has locked out an entire generation from home ownership. That's a huge problem for conservatives. And the issue is simply it's not that Peter Dutton has a property portfolio. It's that the liberals need to differentiate themselves from labor when it comes to the housing issue.

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It's not rocket science. We know how to fix this problem.

Speaker 14

They need to say we're going to stem migration and we're going to increase supply, and they need to take those two things very seriously and prosecute a case for that. If they don't, young people just won't engage.

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Yeah, I think housing affordability is an issue for both of the major parties. And you know Albinezy's purchase of the copagavan a man of course, Well, if voters were struggling, they'd probably hold that against him as well.

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Now, let's have a look at this issue of.

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Cherry before you do.

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Before you do to answer, clear, the Dutton's were building houses and building charca centers. Clear they weren't detracting from the property supply the house and supply, they were adding to it.

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Oh yeah, this is not.

Speaker 14

A personal thing against Dutton. I'm not suggesting Dutton has done anything wrong. It's just that the Liberal party itself needs to have stronger policy, a stronger policy framework to tackle this issue. I mean the person to look at is Pierre Poulivert in Canada. He's the only conservative leader in the world who is popular with young people. And he's popular with young people because he's targeting housing as the number one issue.

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And I guess the opposition is doing that, as you say, through saying we're going to bring down immigration levels to take the pressure off that's of housing. Yeah, all right, I want to get to this issue because it's been such a shocking revelation today. Albanese under fire for misleading the public when he claimed incorrectly that China had given notice to Australia of their warship exercises. Have a look at Albanese's earlier inaccurate claim.

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Australian ships travel to the South China Sea and where that is that the hints there in the name very clearly, and we participate in those activities, including our navy. There was notice given. We have made it clear that we think more notice should have been given.

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Now Albanzi has misled the public on this and we know that because.

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Today incented estimates.

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It was revealed that air safety authorities were alerted to the exercise thirty minutes after they began, thirty minutes after and that was only thanks to a Virgin pilot.

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Have a look, the only way you knew about this was because a Virgin pilot heard about it and called in it correct Virgin plan.

Speaker 3

All right, Well, Michael Kroger, you know this is clearly the Prime Minister. He's been exposed for misleading the public.

Speaker 12

Look, Sharlie, let's be honest about Alboat. To make a point we've made before, he's not up to this job. I mean, I've known most of the Prime ministers in this country dating back to the nineteen seventies. In nearly every case, they were highly gifted, highly intelligent people, a number of Rhodes Scholars, Oxford graduates, very clever people.

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You have to be.

Speaker 12

Smart to be prime minister because you've got to be across one hundred different issues on any given day. Albow's never been a detailed person. He wasn't across the detail. He just gave an answer that he came into his head at the time that oh, there was proper warning, because he thinks there's warning, so that's what he knows. So he says, oh, they gave us warning, thinking that's what happened. He didn't know that they hadn't given warning.

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He had no idea.

Speaker 12

He wasn't across the detail in the slightest until it's been revealed today. Good old Virgin helped us out. So did he deliberately mislead? The hard headed people would say, yes he did. It's terrible, blah blah blah. Look what I think. I think he had no idea what he was talking about. As is the case with a lot of these issues, he just hasn't got the intellectual capacity to be across the detail. I'm sorry about that, but that's the fact of the matter, Sharry.

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Just before I get Clare's response, I just want to explain to everyone what you're seeing on your screen. Now, maybe we can pull up the Tel Aviv footage in full screen. So tens of thousands of Israelis have lined the streets all the way across Israel to pay their respect as the funeral procession goes past. So it is now the funeral procession is nearing approach the Kibboltz near Oz. Kibboltz near Oz, that's where the Bibas family we're from. That is where the funeral will be. It is a

private funeral, but it's going to be broadcast live. So right across Israel, tens and tens, maybe even hundreds of thousands of Israelis have gathered to pay their respects as the procession passes. So we're looking at some of those crowds now the footage before. Obviously Israelis were leaving as

the vehicles had already passed. The eulogies are on track to start in about eight thirty after they do Yarden, it will be the first time we hear from Yarden, the father and husband of Shiri and baby Kafir and Ril, and it will be in Hebrew, but we'll bring it up and we'll try to tell you what he's saying as best as we can.

Speaker 1

All Right, A very quick response now.

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Claire, to this issue of Albinezi misleading the public over that.

Speaker 13

It's part of a pattern, isn't it.

Speaker 14

Albo has a habit of amising or outright denying threats not just to our national security but our internal social cohesion. It's in the too hard basket, I think for him, he's shown he doesn't have the spine to stand up against those who would intimidate us and threaten us, but also provide reassurance to the Australian public that we're in safe hands.

Speaker 13

He's just failed that repeatedly.

Speaker 3

All Right, Claire Leeman, Michael Kroger, thank you both very much for your time today. Thank you, k all Right, and let's bring in Now we're going to return to the exclusive that I had tonight and last night about Australians attending the funeral of Terra le To Hassan Nasraala, and let's bring in our former Australian Federal Police Detective Superintendent and counter terrorism expert David Craig.

Speaker 1

David, thank you very much for your time.

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Firstly, do you think Home Affairs and Borderforce should have stopped these individuals traveling to Lebanon for the funeral given that some were known to authorities?

Speaker 16

Of course, Shari, the answer to that can only be of course, there are orders where we could have prevented their travel right up the front. The only reason that it didn't happen, I would expect is that we didn't have active intelligence reporting quickly at the time. Regardless, the horse has bolted. As far as I'm leaving the country, where we need to exert our pressure now, Shari is

on them returning. If there was a lack of intelligence to stop them leaving Australia, we now have an abundance of these people associating with terrorists and advocating for terrorism. By attending that funeral, we should be able to prevent them, regardless of their status, from coming back to Australia.

Speaker 3

And so if they are Australian citizens, ultimately they have to be allowed to return. But Tony Burke does have the power to temporarily stop them from returning while the investigations are underway.

Speaker 16

That's correct. A temporary exclusion what it can be given, and it can keep an Australian citizen that's over fourteen years of age outside Australia for up to two years. And when we do, if they are successful in getting a return permit, then we can put on conditions that satisfy and mitigate the threat to the community as they

come back in. That's what should be happening here. I noticed yesterday Mike Burgess, the Director General of Asia, was saying that in regard to threats to life, anti Semitism was his agency's highest priority. Now at this funeral, we had tens of thousands of people, including I suspect the Australians chanting death to Israel. I would like to see the Director General's actions be as good as his words.

Speaker 3

Meanwhile, we also heard the ASIO bus Mike Burgess today tell a Senate committee, under questioning from James Patterson, that anti Samitism is Australia's top threat.

Speaker 1

Have a look at this.

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What's your senis about the increase in the level of antisemitism right now?

Speaker 4

In terms of my organization, our threats are faced, threats to life, threats to way of life, in terms of threats to life. It's my agency's number one priority because of the weight of incidents we're seeing play out in this country.

Speaker 13

Well, when would you've ever said before that a form of racism was the number one concern for Asier.

Speaker 4

I don't believe we've done that in.

Speaker 13

A history, David.

Speaker 3

You know thatout wording that this is the greatest threat to life, it's truly terrifying.

Speaker 1

What does he mean by this?

Speaker 9

What he means is that the loss of life is expected, and we are sitting at a terrorism level of probable, which means more than a fifty percent chance over the next twelve months where will be a terrorist attack, there will be an antisemitic attack ending in the loss of life. That's what Burgess is talking about.

Speaker 3

Yeah, all right, David Craig really appreciate your time. So we're going to take a quick break because we're just minutes away from the start of Sheery Aril and Kafir Bibas's funeral in Israel.

Speaker 1

Will cross live to the eulogies.

Speaker 3

I'm also going to bring you that exclusive a bit later on the Bibas family hitting back at Albansi for his callous.

Speaker 1

Remarks that's coming up. Welcome back.

Speaker 3

Okay, we're still on standby for the eulogies to begin, and in the meantime as we wait, we're going to keep the vision up there on the screen. But I'm going to tell you about how angry the Bibas family are at alban Eazi now. On Monday night, on the show, I revealed that Albanisi didn't know anything about the grotesque coffin display where Palestinians celebrated on stage around the coffins of baby Kafir and Ril.

Speaker 5

It is shocking as worthy of condemnation, which is why they should have no role in the future.

Speaker 10

But on a human level, to see that footage and the spectacle that they put on, what was.

Speaker 5

Your reaction, Well, I haven't seen it, Sam, with respect, but but you know this is the atroses that have occurred from October seven, quite rightly, have been condemned by everyone across all of certainly the major political parties, and you know it's horrific what people have gone through.

Speaker 3

So the Bibass family have shared their fury at Albanezi over his remarks, which I played for in my editorial on Monday night. Jarden's aunt Mikhal, She's lived in Australia for many years. She's of course in Israel at the moment. It has been for weeks now. She wrote a Facebook post that she sent to me this morning and gave me permission to share, and she said she was ashamed to be an Australian.

Speaker 1

She said.

Speaker 3

Albanezi claimed he hadn't seen the horrific footage of the coffins of our babies Ariel and Kafir being grotesquely paraded, all the appalling mistake made with Shiri's remains.

Speaker 1

Even when confronted.

Speaker 3

He failed to articulate how he feels about it. He acknowledges that Hermas is a terror organization. Yet this government and in particular Penny One, continues to direct our tax dollars to Hermas Unra, despite undeniable evidence of their close ties. The government must go. The upcoming elections cannot come soon enough. That is from the Bibas family. From Yarden's aunt Michal,

She also spoke about her devastation. She said, while we celebrate the release of my beloved nephew Yard and Bibbas, who was held hostage by these monsters, our joy is overshadowed by unimaginable grief for the brutal, gruesome murder of Yarden's family, Shiri Riel and baby Kafir at the hands of Hermas, a terror organization elected and supported by Gazans.

As the footage from before during an hour after October seven makes painfully clear, she says, I will never forget and never forgive those who harmed my family and my people, the monsters who carried out these atrocities, those who supported them, and those who had the power to act but chose to stay silent in the face of this pure evil. Now very strong words, extremely strong words. Therefrom an aunt, who is hurting right now, she is at that funeral.

She sent that message to me this morning, thanking us for our coverage, which obviously she does not need to do. All of our hearts are with the Bibas family. We will forever love baby Kafir, Ariel and Shurian. We're looking at the screen right now, waiting for the eulogy to begin. As these live pictures are coming through, you can see the Israelis turning out in the masses.

Speaker 1

This is one of the darkest.

Speaker 3

Days in Israel's history, burying a nine month old baby, Ariel, the four year old brother. We think now that we're looking at the funeral procession, the coffins of baby Kafir and Ariel and Shiri are now going through the streets on their way to the funeral at their kibbutz, their home where they were kidnapped from their beds in their pajamas.

Speaker 1

A nine month old.

Speaker 3

Baby murdered by Palestinian terrorists. A month later when he was just ten months old. His four year old brother two Kafir never got to his first birthday. He never made it to his first birthday. And now today Israel is out showing solidarity with the trauma and devastation of this family, and the whole world is watching. Every rational, good hearted person in the world. Our hearts are with

the Bibas family right now. They're with the Yarden father and husband who is right now about to have the worst moment in his life burying.

Speaker 1

His wife and his two little baby boys.

Speaker 3

Absolutely senseless, horrible, cruel murder.

Speaker 1

There's no reason for it.

Speaker 3

And you think about how their kidnapping was celebrated by Palestinians, civilians and Hamas supporters in Gaza. This is the procession. We're seeing that now that tens of thousands of Israelis have come out to pay their respects, and right now this is hostage Square in Tel Aviv. A lot of people gathered around the screens because while the funeral is private, it will be broadcast live. It will be in Hebrew.

I'm hearing that it is running late at this point in time, and where we just saw their live pictures of the cars as they make their way through this. Okay, we're going to come back to this, but let's bring in now for some reaction and what will keep those live pictures on the screen. Let's bring in our liberal national senator James McGrath. James, what's your reaction to this?

What we're seeing right now? Israel out in force burying a baby, a child, a loving mother, James McGrath, burying a mum.

Speaker 2

And two children who were murdered. All of Israel, but all of us who believe in a civilized society. Are it just so down and so sad at the moment because the Bibas family represent the hatred that has been visited upon Israel by Hamas and all the other terrorist groups and terror states who want to destroy that country and the civilizations that lie within Israel. And that's why

Australia must stand with Israel. And that's why Australians must stand with the Bibbers family, and that's why we must bring them all home because there are still hostages being held by a mus And this is what I think some Australians have forgotten about, is that there are still people being held by this terrorist organization. So it is a very very sad day. But also Shari, it's why

we must make a stand against anti Semitism. This is why Australians must come together and shout at those people who allow anti Semitism to grow.

Speaker 3

And you just think about the support that this movement James has had in the west On University campuses, at international institutions, United Nations, the push even by our own Foreign minister to recognize Palestinian statehood at the United Nations, despite the fact that did this, that did this to baby Kafir and Ril and Sheerry, despite the fact they are still the governing body in Gaza. And you just wonder where all sense, reason, rationality and morality has gone in the world.

Speaker 1

What do you think about this?

Speaker 2

It has left the building in a way because you have politicians in Australia, and you have political parties in Australia, and I am going to call out the Greens political party who are, in my view, a racist and anti Semitic party, a party who support the BDS movement, a party who refused to support the definition of anti Semitisms as written and as agreed by over thirty countries, including Australia,

a bipartisan approach the definition of anti Semitism. The Greens are the only party in this st Israelia have refused to accept that definition of anti Semitism. So it's my job, and it's your job, and it's everybody watching this program and everybody who goes onto my social media channels and looks at when we call out the Greens, and we call out these people who attack Israel and attack a fellow liberal democracy and fail to attack mus and fail to call for the return of all hostages.

Speaker 3

Indeed, and you know, we often hear from the likes of certainly the Greens, but even from Albanezi government ministers. You hear more often criticism of Israel than you do the demand for the hostages to be returned. I mean, how often has any Albanezi government minister spoken about the Bibast family. Now, just to update you on what's going on at the moment, the procession is heading towards southern Israel to Kibbutz near Oz.

Speaker 1

It's on its way. It is running late.

Speaker 3

The eulogies were meant to begin at eleven thirty in the morning Israel time, which is eight thirty pm Our time, but.

Speaker 1

It is running late.

Speaker 3

I can also tell you the Knesset, that's the Israeli Parliament, has just held a minute silence for the Bibass family. Masses tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of Israelis have turned out to pay their respect to The footage you're looking at now live is from Hostage Square.

Speaker 1

In Tel Aviv. You might be able to hear the music as.

Speaker 3

Well, where Israelis are waiting for the.

Speaker 1

Start of this funeral.

Speaker 3

Because this family, the Bibast family, has captured the hearts of all Israelis and many of us around the world as well. All we wanted to see, all we were praying for, is to see the safe return of baby Kafir and Baby Ariel and their mother Shiri and James, for me, the images of and as a mother myself, the images of Shiri as she tried to hold and protect her children. She held them close to her chest, baby Kafir and Ariel, as she was being shuffled and pulled around.

Speaker 1

By terrorists, by.

Speaker 3

Palestinian terrorists and civilians who kidnapped her. And she was just in the greatest of distress trying to protect her babies.

Speaker 1

And you just can't bear.

Speaker 3

We now know, just in the past few days, we've learned just how brutal and violent their murders were.

Speaker 1

That they were murdered by bare hands.

Speaker 3

That is what Yarden has given permission for the world to know, that they were.

Speaker 1

Murdered violently by bare hands.

Speaker 3

And it doesn't get worse than this, James, and now here we are about to watch their funeral, about to watch these beautiful children be.

Speaker 1

Laid to rest.

Speaker 2

It doesn't get worse then seeing two young children who have been murdered. This is why sometimes in politics and life there is a moral clarity, is a difference between light and darkness. And what happened on Israel on the seventh October was the darkest of days, but it is it is a wake up call to all of us to make sure that we must defend our fellow citizens, our fellow Jewish citizens in Australia and understand that there was a choice to be made between lightness and dark

between this coming election. And I don't want to politicize what's going on in Israel at the moment, but in Australia there is a fight over the moral clarity of the future direction of this country. The weak leadership of Anthony Albanezi, who has allowed anti Semitism to become such a serious security issue in this country, or someone like Peter Dutton, Will Will who will strengthen our resolve and stand up for Jewish Australians.

Speaker 3

The contrast, the contrast couldn't be greater.

Speaker 1

James McGrath, thank you very much for your time.

Speaker 3

We're going to leave it there because we're going to cross now to Nicole Zedek from twenty four in Israel. We're going to bring Nicole Zedek in I twenty four it Israel. Nicole, thank you very much for your time. Now, President Isaac Herzog has just released a statement. We're waiting for the funeral to begin of the Bibas family. Isaac Herzog has just released a statement very moving. He says, the entire country and entire people are in a time of mourning. He says, all of us and entire people

with broken hearts are accompanying them to eternal rest. This is not how we prayed for them to return to us. In our mind's eye, we saw them returning, shining with their golden heads, with the lively, playful gaze that shine in their little eyes.

Speaker 1

Nicole, Israel is grieving today.

Speaker 17

Israel is certainly grieving today. It's an unofficial day of mourning. As you see on the screen, tens of thousands of people who have been taking to the streets following this funeral procession as it made its way from central Israel towards southern Israel, where it's still making its way. And one of the reasons that it was delayed was because of the masses of people that followed this funeral procession every step of the way to give one final goodbye

to the Bevis family. And there's a very difficult day here in Israel. As you see, if not only the wave and sea of Israeli fags, but those orange balloons that have also become a symbol of those two little red headed boys and their mother Sharri as well, and so it's incredibly difficult. But also this can provide some sort of closure for many of the Israeli public, finally seeing them lay dressed after more than five hundred days

in terror captivity. But many of the family members and many of the Israeli publics say that even though they are seeing this funeral procession and these three souls finally buried here in Israel, they can't actually get that closure until all of the hostages are back home. As we're speaking right now, there are still sixty three hostages in the Gazastre. Four more bodies or expected to be released

either today or tomorrow. These four bodies included in Fez one of the Seaspire deal, where we saw thirty three names on that list. But the questions remaining around Phees two of this Sea Spire or there could possibly be an extension of Phees one or the while sixty three

people hostages are still in the Gaza Strip. Until they're all back home, the Israeli public says that that little bit of closure will not be there, and so that is also why today is such a difficult and emotional day from many people here in Israel.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it is indeed out for the Jewish community in particular around the world, but as well anyone who has any goodness in their hearts will be absolutely devastated.

Speaker 1

This is a dark day for everyone. Nicole.

Speaker 3

You just mentioned there that the funeral is delayed because of just how many Israelis turned out to show their support. So we're waiting for that still to begin. It was meant to begin about twenty minutes ago.

Speaker 1

Can you tell us how the the eulogies will work.

Speaker 3

Who we're expecting to hear from very shortly.

Speaker 17

Well, we've already heard some of statements coming out from the b Beast family yard and Bivas his sister in fact, so the sister in law of Shari Vivas already stating that we're watching with grief, and Yarden wishes that he could hug every single one of the people of the masses of Israelis that are accompanying him and his family on this emotional and devastating day, and he says that he hopes one day soon that the Israeli public will not only be united in grief, but in more joyful

times and so that's so far the message that we're hearing from the Bibas family. We'll likely hear more emotional eulogies from the Biba's family, from Shii's sister as well, the only living member of her family still alive, as far as the sister of Shii, as Shiri's two parents were also killed on October seventh during the massacre at

their home in kutznir Oz. And so this is also a difficult day because it brings many of those emotions back from October seventh, and it's a grim reminder of the reality that the people here in Israel have been facing and coming to terms with over the past sixteen months. This is a grim reality when you watch some of these funerals, seeing which family members are present to give a eulogy and which family members are not present to

see their daughter being laid dressed. And so we will be hearing some of those emotional eulogies later in the day, possibly even hearing from President Isaac Kertzog as well. We heard from yesterday as Odin Liftschit's eighty three year old peace activist who was also one of the bodies returned,

along with sharing Ril and Kmerbibus voted. Liftschitz was also laid dressed at his home in kabutznair Oz just yesterday, and we heard from Isaac Kurtzog then as well as oh had Liftschit's wife, you Heaven lift Chits, who was also kidnapped on October seventh. These are two peace activists who spent their life transporting Palescindians from the Gaza Strip

to receive proper healthcare here and Is. And so you haven't said what it was so shocking about their abduction was that they were kidnapped, But it's very seen people that they spent their life trying to help, and so we're expected to hear some very more emotional bulogies. And you can see everyone here on is anxiously waiting and coming together and really trying to support each other through this difficult day.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean, and you mentioned Odad Lifshits, and you know the reality that he had spent his whole life helping Palestinians trying to achieve peace. And this has been a big wake up coll because we know we can see there's no pretending Hamas doesn't want peace. It merely exists to bring murder and destruction.

Speaker 1

The fact that it can target a.

Speaker 3

Tiny baby, a child, their loving mother. This is why we're watching this funeral procession. And not only were they kidnapped from their homes, their beds, they were murdered by bare hands.

Speaker 1

Kafir. The violent death at just ten months old so traumatic. You can't even imagine.

Speaker 3

A baby killed by terrorists like this in a movement that's one so much support Nicole around the world, including here in Australia.

Speaker 1

A baby that.

Speaker 3

Never got to celebrate his first birthday and the world is watching as he's buried today.

Speaker 17

And Shary what you're speaking about right now, this shock and this surprise. I think it does speak to the Israeli safety as well, because even after the October seventh massacre, where Israel was shown firsthand the cruelty of this terror group inside Gaza that indiscriminately murdered Israelis, Christians, Muslims, foreign workers who are here just working the agricultural fields. Five of them still captive in Gaza. They're part of those sixty three that are still there. They have no ties

from Israel. We're talking about a Nepalese, a Tanzanian and a Thai worker that are still in Gaza. And so that talks about the indiscriminate heat and cruelty we saw from Hamas. It's still following October seventh, when we saw the and heard about the cruelty that these tear groups did in the way that they killed those two little GiB Us boy as well as Shari, Israeli public was once again shocked. And that's what surprises many of us when you hear this news. How can we again and

again be shocked by the cruelty. But that's the Israeli spirit, and that's the spirit even of Odd Liftshitz and No Heaven. We spent their life trying to make peace with those people across the border. And every time that we hear another wake up call, and we're facing one of those wake up calls today with the funeral of Shari, Ariel and Kafir. It's shocking that Israel can still be shocked by the cruelty of the Tearan group that is in Gaza.

Yet still there's these remnants of hope that Israel thinks that they can continue to move past some of these darkest days. I think that's what brings the Israeli public together, those moments of hope that they can continue to cling onto despite the horrors and the cruel to you we continue to learn about.

Speaker 3

Yeah, all right, Nicoleztek, really appreciate your time.

Speaker 1

Thank you very much for joining us on this terrible, sad day in Israel.

Speaker 3

And we're going to stay with these pictures. We're waiting now for the eulogy to begin. We'll bring you the live pictures as they come. This is what the international news agencies are playing. But let's bring in now for more analysis. Sky News contributed Kosher Gada Kosher.

Speaker 1

It's against this.

Speaker 3

Backdrop that we are that Donald Trump is having conversations with Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yaho about how to move forward, about whether to move on to the second phase of the hostage deal, which would mean that Israel needs to withdraw from the Gaza strip, or do they go in and defeat Hamas once and for all. That was always a goal of this war, as Benjamin Netanya

who outlined it. But as we've seen in recent times, though they have been you know, thoroughly decimated, their leadership has been killed. There is a strong movement there Hamas is still in control in Gaza Kosha Gata.

Speaker 1

What are your thoughts?

Speaker 18

Yes, absolutely, and what a dash are you know? There are a few tragedies in the world, and a world that unfortunately sees many tragedies that really elicit the kind of visceral reaction that this one is from around the world, as you've been covering throughout the hour, And that word you use, backdrop is so critical because it does sort of refocus or remind the world a little bit about the fundamentals of this conflict and that evil exists and

how do you address it. So with that backdrop, you're right,

I mean, I think it does have some impact. And the way that whole negotiation is going to play out, I think President Trump is going to continue with his view of being very, very supportive and a strong ally of Israel to do what they must for defending their sovereignty and their national security, ale still maintaining as much non introventionalism as possible because that is part of his agenda, And I think he's going to try and continue to

thread that needle. But I think the pictures that we're seeing now in this momental hero definitely please a rule and just how the optics as well as the policy is going to shap and this is.

Speaker 3

A deep moment, a major movement for everyone around the world. This has been front page news in most international newspapers Argentina because the Bibest family were part Argentinian as well as Israeli, and in fact there are Australian members of the Bibast family, as I've been speaking about tonight. Yet Argentina has had a two day morning period for Kafia and ril buildings right around the world have been illuminated in orange lights out of respect. Australia has done nothing

Kosher Gada. Our leaders have barely spoken about the Bibass family at all.

Speaker 1

This is a major deal.

Speaker 3

Well, this is truly one of the darkest moments for Israel, but also big news right around the world. Just the reality of laying to rest a baby and a four year old and their mother who were killed by terrorists, and it just feels, especially the Prime Minister and the Foreign Minister pennywe really have underestimated the brutality of this and just how much the story of the Bibat family has resonated with people, not just the Jewish community, but people right around the world.

Speaker 18

Yes, you've been making that point so effectively all week and that clip that we saw of the Prime minister, and it's been our two days since then and still nothing, which can only lead us to one conclusion that it

is a deliberate calculation. I hate to use that word on a day like this, but there might be a political calculation there where the left wing of politics right now, in an election year over here, is trying to walk that line of constituents in the bass, the Labor Party base that they want to appease, if you will, with the controversies and the aspects of this conflict that have not had consensus in that base, and that's kind of what they're.

Speaker 1

Either playing to or pandering to.

Speaker 18

But I really think it's such a it's wrong, immral, But it's also a missed opportunity because moments like these, as sad as they are, they can actually be very unifying. It's a way to come across as very statesman like. There's so many examples of where this has happened in the world before. After September eleventh, I remember Queen Elizabeth had the Changing of the Guard, played a star spangled

banner which had never been done before, for instance. So there's a real opportunity here to show what's right and wrong and evil and good and all of that, while also actually shoring up your bona fides as a statesman. And I think it's very conspicuous that that has not happened in Australia.

Speaker 1

In data it has.

Speaker 3

So look, if you're watching now, if you've just tuned in, we're looking at live pictures from Hostage Square, what's known as Hostage Square in Tel.

Speaker 1

Aviv, Israel.

Speaker 3

Tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of Israelis have come out to the street to watch the funeral of the Bibas family, baby Kafir, brother Ariel, and mother Shiri. It is a private funeral for the family near Vekibuts in southern Israel, near the border with Gaza, but it will be broadcast lives. So you're looking at Israeli's standing waiting for that funeral to begin, for the eulogies to begin, when we will hear from Yarden, father and husband for

the first time. It's one of the darkest days, and in truth, we've all fallen in love with these children, with their loving mother.

Speaker 1

She battled terrorists.

Speaker 3

She held her babies close to her chest, trying to protect them.

Speaker 1

She couldn't do so. She would have given anything to protect them. She would have given her whole heart to protect them.

Speaker 3

And now, today, the darkest of days, their funeral. For continuing coverage from Israel, we're running this footage on the Election Channel or on the Sky News app. But that's all I've got time for today. I'll see you tomorrow at eight.

Speaker 1

And right now, here's Paul Murray live from Vegas

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