Sharri | 23 October

Why on Sky News. This is Sharry.

Good Evening and I have a massive show ahead tonight. Insiders reveal panic in the Albanese government that Trump could be about to win the election. The mistake Albanzi has already made. More on this story in a minute. Also tonight, I can exclusively reveal a Jewish SBS journalist is considering legal action after the public broadcaster censored interviews that were positive towards Israel. This includes an interview with Richard Kemp

Gooda hell takes off your fourteen days left, and she'll take a couple of more days off too. You know why. She's lazy as hell, and she's got that reputation. She's a radical left lunatic. She's further left than Bernie Sanders or PoCA Hunters.

Labor is now panicking at the thought of a Donald Trump presidency. One labour sauce told me today, people were relieved that Biden left because they were worried that Trump was going to win. They were openly excited about Kamala Harris coming in, and now they're worried about Trump again. Another senior political figure put it more bluntly when he said, and I quote the Albanezy government and defat were where you can read the rest of that sentence for yourselves.

Taking advantage all the global transition to net zero. That is so important. We have a forty three percent reduction target by twenty thirty. That just sided in net zero by twenty fifty.

That just said, I haven't heard, Mike, I haven't heard.

They don't ever talk about the environment anymore. You know why, Mike, you said, don't talk about it now? No, it's one of the great scams of all time. You know why they don't talk about it because people aren't buying it anymore.

Trump previously pulled out of the Paris Agreement, and he could have gained withdraw from international targets. He won't want climate to be a major feature of the Quad as it has been with Joe Biden and alban Easy. Their positions on Israel as well. This is alban Easy and

We encourage all parties to engage constructively to de escalate the current tensions. International humanitarian war must be respected. We also reiterate our call for an immediate cease firing Gaza.

And when I'm back in the Oval Office, I will support Israel's rate to win its war on Terra. They have to have a right to win the war, thank you, and I will give Israel the support that it needs to win, but I do want them to win fairs.

Now, there's already a concerning gap between Alban Easy and Joe Biden when it comes to support for Israel. In one glaring example, the Biden administration was deeply disappointed that Penniwong refused to vote against that Prohamus resolution that was put forward by the Palestinian leadership and the United Nations General Assembly recently, and Penniwang, when she was over in the States met with the Palestinian leadership, but she didn't

A whole group of people who are suffering enormously, something that we see on our TV screens every night. We have when it comes to security processes. We have five in our intelligence agents.

We do not need our once great cities to become hotbeds of terrorism. And on day one of the Trump presidency, I'm restoring the travel band, suspending refugee admissions, and keeping terrorists the hell out of our country like I had it before.

If Trump does become president in just under two weeks, there'll be deep disappointment in the senior ranks of the Albanese government. One figure familiar with the Trump camp told me today that Trump will be well briefed on how left wing Albanzi and Penny Wong have been. They said that Trump will have a cursory call with Albinizi, but then he won't bother with him because he's got an election. He'll think that he's probably going to lose, and everyone

And Donald as we know, is not.

A leading intellectual force.

Have you looked at a Trump rally and how many angry white men there are in those rallies.

Now it has to be said that Rudd is now working overtime to forge connections in the Republican Party and I'm told he's making headway. Sure, but what he said can't be unset and that's why he wasn't a wise appointment. His past comments might be forgiven, they won't be forgotten and this isn't going to help australia national interest. And Trump, for one, certainly hasn't forgotten them.

I don't know much about him. I heard he was a little bit nasty. I hear he's not the brightest bulb. But I don't know much about him. But if he's at all hostile, he will not.

Be there long.

One senior figure said to me today that Kevin Rudd has put his head down and he's working hard to rebuild relationships, but they doubt he'll be invited around for margaritas at Marilago. The confidence meanwhile, in the Trump camp is growing. Fourteen days out, Real cleopolling has trumped slightly ahead by one point one percent in the seven battleground states that will decide the outcome of this election, and of course that's Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina

Kamala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners.

Surgery for prisoners, for prisoners, every time transgender in me in the prison system would have access.

The polls are close, and there'll be a sigh of relief from the Albaneze government if there is a Harris presidency, but most informed commentators are at this point telling me

The leaders in these Western countries understand the threat, they know that Israel's doing the right thing. They're just afraid of a country standing up for itself. They've forgotten how a country needs to stand up for yourself to survive.

Is that a man who should be censored, who should have his whole interview removed from online as SBS did. We can presume that Richard Kemp did make similarly support of comments of Israel in his interview with SBS, as is his right and even duty as a high profile commander who has personally fought terrorism. Ffteen minute interview with Kemp did go to air on SBS radio in late May.

Well, it's extremely distressing. In the SBS response, show will have to be a lot stronger than the one they gave you tonight. I've met Richard Camp, he's been in Australia. I've seen a film he produced. He's an outstanding commentator. His will record is, as you said, well known. It's distressing because SBS, much like the ABC, appears to be wandering into this territory that anything that is seen to be pro Israel or defending Israel is seen to be

I mean, you know, I think we forget that isral is actually Australia's ally and that the terrorists are the enemy. Here. This seems to be forgotten, Richo, because SBS is censoring anyone that's put forward Israel's position. Richard Kemp, the family member of a hostage. How can this be sensitive and yet they're happy to run the likes of Anthony Lowenstein, who in many interviews accuses Israel are the most egregious war crimes. Graham Richardson.

Yeah, I must say I find it a little curious that SBS would be would be going in this direction. There's no need to, there's no evidence, and yet they seem to be increasingly anti Israel. I don't know why. But I'll tell you what. If I was the boss of the SBS, somebody's bummerd get kicked, and I'd say, I don't expect you to be all the way with Israel, but I do expect you to be fair and not be all the way with the PLO. And I just don't think that that mesa is getting across.

Yeah, I also want to ask both of your views on the other topic I spoke about just then, how nervous the Albanezy government is becoming at the prospect of a Trump presidency. Michael, this would be very difficult for the left wing Albo and Pennywong to deal with.

Well, it would be.

You know, Trump's obviously made those public comments about Kevin Rudd, and you can be rest assured that people will remind Trump of those remarks if he gets three elected. Despite Kevin scurrying around Washington trying to say no, no, no, I'm actually a good guy. I think he'll either have to be recalled or he'll just you know, have his

But it's not only about Kevin rud Richo. It's also crucial and fundamental differences on central policy areas, the different positions on China, the different positions on Israel, the different positions on climate change. This will be difficult for the Albanezy government to deal with if Trump does win.

Difficult, but not impossible.

I think.

I can't see how Kevin Rudd can deal with them at all. You know, he's positioned in regards to Trump is simply not capable of being rescued. You know, you can't say what he has said about Trump and then turn around the next day and say, by the way, I think he's a good bloke. No one will accept that. I think that's a real problem. I think you know what's going to happen is that somebody's got to get that big hook and just get him off the stage.

Well, you are, you are an out and out Kamala har I supporter, Richard. We'll see how only a couple of weeks and then we'll be breaking down the results here on a Wednesday night, because you both are regulars on a Wednesday. Now Lydia Thorpe's hypocrisy is being exposed after she pulled that embarrassing stunt in front of the Royals on Monday. It has now been revealed that she enjoys all the pucks that come with participating in colonial

Well, there's no obligation on her to resign, but look, you know, the practical things is she's stolen that seat from the Greens. You know, she wasn't elected because she was Lydia Thorpe. She was elected because she was a Green number one on the Green's ticket, and that's why she got elected. She stolen the seat from the Greens. She should hand it back. She's complicit in theft. She's taken something from the Greens and she should hand it back. But you know what hypocrisy I mean, you know the

It's an extraordinary salary rich so she clearly just takes it for granted.

Yeah she does. I mean, she's just a huge pain in our political bum and the sooner we get rid of the better. I don't think that there's any saving graces with her at all. I can't think of one reason why she should remain in the parliament, particularly if we're so bad, If this is such a terrible nation, why does she want to serve in the parliament.

No, it's a very good point. You'd have to think, why did she swear allegiance to the Commonwealth if she feels this way so strongly. But as I've said all week, I strongly think this is Albanesi's fault because he shouldn't have invited her to this prestigious reception. Anyone could have told you that this is how she was going to carry on. There's no opportunity, there's no event where she doesn't stage a protest. So this is on them and

Look, it's that key issue of cost and standard of living and we've been seeing that for a long time now. But the government is struggling to make up any ground. It's lost over twenty four points on that very point in the last year and it's living costs. Housing is another one, Housing and cost of housing, managing the economy a third, health and social care, and then crime and social order. But the interesting thing is when you look at those top five issues, the Coalition is winning out

I mean, so one of the biggest issues affecting voters housing aforidability. We know there's a crisis in Australia at the moment. You would have been in the field when the news broke that Albanezy had bought a four point three million dollar cliff top mansion. How do you think this has impacted his perception among Australians.

Look, it's interesting because in the last since our last poll in this month, in the October poll, we did have Peter Dutton coming within one point. As you've said, on preferred Prime minister, it has never happened before. It's forty four to forty three now and that's the closest he's been on preferred Prime minister. The two pp hasn't changed a lot, but the Coalition is still ahead now reflecting in newspoll as well. So the trend is very much in the wrong direction for the government on this

Numbers, well, it has thirty six percent of voters say they have a worse view of him.

If you look at those voters, those are voters that already had a negative perception of him, among Green's voters and particularly among a hard line of Coalition photos. So generally speaking, his personal his personal decisions in his investments hasn't really hurt. It's those fundamental issues that is hurting the government.

We're seeing the Queensland election on Saturday. The polls had been showing that it would be allow inside win for David CHRISTI. Fully, we're now seeing that Labor appears to be closing the gap somewhat do you think the L and P will still be able to win a majority government?

Oh well, look, I think it firstly should be said that it was never going to be easy for David CHRISTI fully. I mean, this is only the third time since nineteen eighty nine. Well, yes, it's only the third time since nineteen eighty nine they'd aim for a majority government and you see the dominance of the Labor Party in queens Now. He needs those twelve seats, he should get them. But the assumption that this is going to

Yep, all right, Leah Shanahan, really appreciate your time. That was fascinating, Thank you, Thank you. Now still to come the connections behind Labour's Future Made in US Australia policy. This has now been called the Future Mates policy. This is making it more than a gravy train of easy money. Plus alban Easy lectures us about renewables being the cheapest form of energy, but this was contradicted in an astonishing

You're right.

PSI Quantum is based in the US and this extraor her decision was announced in April this year that the Commonwealth and Queensland Labor governments were jointly going to invest almost a billion dollars of taxpayers money. Now, as Cameron Milner has pointed out, and of course as a former Queensland Labor State Secretary he knows the labor culture very well, there's a lot of very well connected former labor staffers

The problem is this is actually a massive story. This is a very big story, pol but it's hard to explain it, I think to people. I think one of the major issues as well that I want to ask you about is the timeline for this. When did Blackbird start getting involved in these discussions compared to other firms.

Well, what we know is that psy Quantum approached the Australian government in mid to late twenty twenty two sprooking, making an unsolicited offer for the Australian Government to invest. We know that Minister Husick met with them twice in twenty twenty two, including in December twenty twenty two, and then in January twenty twenty three he visited py Quantum's

Yep.

The big question is how did SI Quantum get through the gates so quickly and be in a position where they were meeting with the minister and all of a sudden the government was looking at making this investment and.

With billion dollars a billion a billion dollar, we're out of time, but very quickly. You've called for an inquiry from the Order to General Wear's that up to so I've.

Written to the Order to General laying out some of these facts. The Order General has written back to saying investigations being considered. So I'll continue to press for that because it's very important. And as Cameron Milner's article points out, there's a web of labor mates here and taxpayers would rightly be very concerned about the basis on which almost of billion dollars their money has been spent.

Quite aside from all of this, I personally don't think that tax pay funds should be going into startups like this anyway. There's enough venture capital money out there. Why do we need tax paper.

That's right, venture capital budget, Crist' it's a there's a big private sector venture capital sector in Australia. That's good news. Let them get on with making these risky.

Investors exactly right, Paul Fletcher, thank you very much, Thank you time. That is a truly big story. Will stay on it now after the break. Is the Albanese government planning to make abortion an issue in the federal election after Labour's scare campaign in Queensland. I'll discuss that with my political panel right after the break. Plus the hypocrisy from mainstream media claiming Israel is targeting journalists and workers. Will an international expert on this subject would join me

You're saying you cannot guarantee that the current government policy settings which you model will deliver lower power process.

I can't guarantee that, no, And what I would say is we would try to be quite clear about the communication. Our message, which is that the integrated system plan, which considers these things generation, storage and major transmission upgrades, is the lowest cost pathway. It doesn't refer to whether it's cheaper or more expensive for that wholesale component.

All right, let's bring in our political panel, Labor and p Daniel Malino and Liberal Senator Holly Hughes. Welcome to you both. Daniel, starting with you, is this an admission from Australia's energy regulator that your government's renewable policies just aren't going to lower the cost?

Oh, hi, Charien, thanks for having me on.

Now.

Look, I don't think so I think understandably the energy regulator doesn't want to be giving guarantees in relation to energy when there are so many moving parts. But for me, the key thing about his testimony, and this backed up positions that they've taken and others have taken on a number of occasions, is that a strong push towards knewables firmed by gas is the least cost pathway going forward. That's the real choice Australian's face. And it's a better

He did say he couldn't guarantee it would mean any reduction in power bills. Holly, what do you have to say with what to what Daniel just said there that this is still the least cost pathway moving forward, cheaper than going down a nuclear energy model.

Well, it's still based on the provisions around the eighty two percent missions reduction at zero by twenty fifty. So they're doing modeling within the framework and policy positions that the government's putting forward. The government hasn't I would hesitate a guess given them the scope to say, what's the cost if we put more coal fire power stations in? What's the cost if we did go down a nuclear pathway?

Removed from Australians.

No, this is an absolute pipe drain being pushed by Chris Bowen that is just going to cost them more money. The government during the election campaign put a figure of two hundred and seventy five dollars reduction by twenty twenty five. That is just around the corner. And Australians don't really understand what the wholesale cost is. They don't understand the cost of generation or transmission. What they understand is what

Yeah, and it doesn't look like the two hundred and seventy five dollars they're.

All saying it's doubled in price from the so called reduction we will get.

Now, we've seen that the issue of abortion has become a scare campaign or distraction if you like, depending on which way you look at it during the Queensland state election campaign. Well, senior female Liberals Jane Hume and Susan Lay are now saying that they don't want abortion laws to be a feature at the upcoming federal election. Have a look.

What I can assure you and assure your viewers and assure all voters is that a Dutton led coalition government has no plans, no policy, and no interest in unwinding women's reproductive rights.

We have no intention to change the settings from a federal health perspective. Obviously, individuals have their own views and Jainer is entitled as a member of the National Party to her own view.

And as you heard Susan Lay, they're just referred to Jacinda Jacenterprice, who had told the City Morning Herald that she did want abortion on the nation agenda. Daniel, do you think this was in the Queensland state election campaign a scare campaign because David Chris Fooley said the laws were never going to change.

Look, Schrry, I haven't been following every single in and out of the Queensland state election. My understanding is that this came up in the Queensland state election because one or more backbenches in the opposition indicated that they wanted to put it on the agenda, and then that put that question back to the leader of the opposition. So I don't think it was so much a scare campaign as an issue raised by some backbenches in the opposition. But look, I don't think this is going to be

What do you think, Holly, do you have the confidence that Dania has that Labor I won't try and have a scare campaign on this issue because it has worked in the United States, It worked in Queensland and.

Look, I was on one of your colleague shows last night and said I cannot believe the americanization of politics in them trying to grasp onto this issue and Labor have made it a scare tactic in the Queensland election.

I hope Daniel's right.

I hope the federal election campaign is fought on cost of living, is caught on who's going to bring your energy prices down? And is around who's going to best serve Australians in the tax system, because I can tell you it's not this Albanezi labor government and Australians you know, we know they're number one, two, three, four and five top issues a cost of living. I don't think you're going to see these issues come up as certainly vote changes.

Yeah, it'll definitely be interesting. All right, Daniel Melino, Holly Hughes, thank you both very much for your time. Now still to come. We've seen accusations from Media Watch and Sky News UK that Israel is targeting journalists and aid workers deliberately.

Feel they are now the targets of Israeli strike.

To the war in the Middle East. And yet more did journalists, the latest being Hassan Hamad. Hassan was killed by an Israeli airstrike in Gaza, but there has been little or nothing in the mainstream media, which is remarkable. Are we now so hardened to journalists being targeted.

And this reporting is just going unchallenged. Now. I've extensively spoken on this show about the lengths that Israel goes to to avoid civilian casualties, but to find out the objective truth, I spoke with the internationally renowned Chair of Urban Warfare Studies at the Modern War Institute, John Spencer. In mainstream media outlets, Israel has been accused of deliberately targeting both aid workers in Lebanon and journalists in Gaza. Have you seen any evidence of this?

Absolutely not, and that's just to me, a continuation of the disinformation about all the operations the fact that the United States has said many times is there is not one bit of evidence to show that Israel has targeted civilians period, journalists, aid workers. There has been accidents, but the fact that Israel has done more to prevent and to safeguard civilians and those on the battlefield. But this is war, Israel is being attacked, Israel is conducting massive operations.

But this is war.

You were in Gaza, I believe earlier this year. What about the figure of forty thousand civilians killed in Gaza? Is that figure, as far as you are concerned, is it accurate? And how do you compare the civilian casualties in Gaza with other wars?

Sure, and I've been to Gaza three times since October seventh. I was last year in July. I can tell you that the now Hamas Gaza Health Ministry number of forty two thousand killed in Gaza is a lie. It's just not true. There's no way you could know the number. But that number itself isn't those that have been killed. That's anybody who has died since October seventh. It includes anybody who died of natural causes, anybody who died by Hamas's hand, who.

Murdered, to include just this week, people trying to flee when they get the notices. It includes anybody who's missing they just don't know the name. It includes people that died years ago. I can tell you from being on the ground that that.

Number is a lie and that Israel is actually the civilian to combatant ratio if we knew the number. Although in Gaza there's some type of magic system that can tell you how many civilians died. It can't tell you how many combatants die, but they'll tell you how many civilians died within hours. That's never happened in war and it never will, but they'll tell you within hours. And then mass media runs with it like thirty killed, five hundred killed.

But that number is it's a lie. It's not true.

Israel's civilian to combatant ratio is actually lower because they say, and I believe them more than I believe Alamas.

But even if I take both numbers.

Israel's actually killed like twenty to twenty two thousand Hamas and then the rest are what.

Is believed to be civilians.

But there actually is no way to tell that, and when you have this reporting system that's just full of lives.

In terms of the international community accusing Israel of breaching international law, in your view, has Israel been guilty of war crimes?

Absolutely not, And I've written that from every angle, every accusation, from the fact that Israel has not been discriminated, It has been very it has not been indiscriminate, has been very discriminated, and who it targets the enemy, only the enemy.

It has not been excessive in the use of force.

It has not been you're overwhelming, as in not what the law of war says in my analysis to include being on the ground and going with the actual units on the ground. They're following the law of war, following rules of engagement that are very stringent against the complexity of this enemy in underground cities that nobody else is also faced in war. No Isruel is following, is going beyond the legal requirements and is following their moral ethical way.

It's all a farce of lies.

John, what's your comment on the United Nations, both from the positions expressed from its senior leadership but also that pro har Mass resolution that was put forward that had majority support in the United Nations General Assembly. Do you think the UN has become an enabler for terrorism?

Absolutely, we didn't get here, and I think that's what we're seeing, especially in Northern Israel, where the United Nations Security Council resolution seventeen oh one and the mandate of UNIFIL of over eighteen thousand United Nations forces that we members of the United Nations paid for, who have completely allowed the entire area to be combat areas for HESBLA, massive bunkers and stockpiles.

The UN is failing.

This has been the greatest test of the United Nations since the end of World War Two, and it's failing with the Islamic regime in Iran, with all these proxies, with the way it determines what the law war was, how it's been co opted by humanitarian rights groups, how.

It has become just a political.

Theater, basically problematic when this is the organization that's to prevent war and it has guided us to the situation.

Where we are now and we need leadership.

The United States is sending a fad battery missile defense system to Israel, yet at the same time it's issued a letter threatening to withhold weapons if the situation doesn't improve in Gaza. What message do these conflicting messages send to Iran?

I mean, I think so for Iran, I mean I think it's we are in an election season. War is politics. I think that's a huge sign of the strong relationship and the iron plaid agreements, and that I'm proud of as an American that the United States will defend Israel,

Seven different directions.

To be honest, John Spencer, thank you very much for your time. And that was my interview with John Spencer earlier. He is so impressive. Now, two quick things before I go. Firstly, a shout out to my colleague Chris Kenny. He did a sensational interview earlier today on a Legras Spender and the teals. Make sure you check it out online. Also, if you miss my exclusive from the start of the show about SBS censoring pro Israel, that'll be up on