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Sharry Good Evening.
Well, we've only got two weeks left until the Christmas break. That's eight shows, so make sure you tune into every single one coming up tonight. Backlash over an Australia Day pub boycott as punters reject being bullied by corporates the Wok company tonight issuing an apology, Warren Mundine would join Me live. Also on the show, the author of Laptop from Hell, Miranda Devine, responds to Joe Biden's pardon of his son Hunter.
That exclusive coming.
Up, and the rift between alber Easy and Tanya Plibasek. Labor insider Cameron Milner spills the beans. But first let's go to the major backlash today to the news that two hundred pubs across the country threatened to ban Australia Day celebrations. The owners the private equity firm based in Asia claimed our National Day caused sadness and hurt. Well,
this was outrageous. You don't boycott our National Day. It's the fastest way ever to kill off business and the company had to learn this the hard way when they were forced to backtrack this evening and issue a groveling apology to customers, and their backflip came after premiers and politicians blasted their woke decision.
Countries need national days, they genuinely need them. We need a sense of common purpose. I don't think it's what the majority of people in the state or the country agree with. And I also think that there has to be a sense of national occasions.
I've participated in many Australian Day events over decades, and I planned to continue into the years ahead.
From the government's perspective, it's our national day and the day we come together.
We had the boys.
It was absolutely resoundingly defeated, and a lot of that defeat was Drivenigenous astray and saying absolutely we don't want to be treated differently. And they celebrate Australia Day, many of them in the same sort of way as we as non Indigenous Australians.
And many commentators said the only way to react to this proposed man was to boycott the pubs.
Avoid them like the plague.
We have a stack of hotels right across the country wanting to be part of Australia Day.
Go to them instead.
The pubs owned by this group should become a patron free z oone.
There are plenty other pubs that you can go and buy a beer at on Australia if these pubs don't want to celebrate Australia.
And Indigenous Australians weren't happy about this either. Warren Mundine will be on My show tonight, while an Indigenous elder Ian hunter said that here to his family and friends in remote communities like to celebrate Australia Day.
They have barbecues.
He said it's the urban lefties, the white people that are pushing for this and he called it condescending.
In fact, there was so much.
Backlash, mostly from punters, that the Australia Venue Co by this evening had apologized and reversed their decision.
Releasing a statement.
The company said, we sincerely regret that our purpose is to reinforce community in our venues, not divide it. It is not for us to tell anyone whether or how to celebrate Australia Day. They said, whether you choose to celebrate Australia Day or not, everyone is welcome in our pubs always. Well, they've been forced to backtrack, but there's no question their original boycott was a deliberate decision, and Chris Kenny pointed out earlier all the other days that
this company boasts about celebrating. In a clear case of virtue signaling.
You can see that Australian venue company does like to celebrate some days. There's Big Gay Day they celebrate that. It's a picture there too for Plant a Tree Day. Also they're trumpeting how they celebrate where at Purple Day and a similar day they have Lgbtqia Plus Day. There's also Nadock Week celebrated for Indigenous Australians, of course, and
there's International Women's Day. They celebrate all these days and they are all good days, to be sure, But apparently there are two hundred pubs at bars in Australia now who have time for all of those days, but no time for our National Day.
Well said, and this company may have reversed their ban, but the damage has been done. When Australians are looking for somewhere to celebrate on January twenty six, they'll likely avoid these.
Two hundred venues.
And the company owns fifty seven pubs in Victoria, ten in New South Wales, twenty in South Australia, ninety in Queensland.
The list goes on but in New.
South Wales two of their biggest ones are bungaloweight and Cargo in Sydney. In Brisbane there's the Port Office Hotel in the Regatta Hotel in Melbourne, there's the Esplanade Hotel in Prince of Wales and Sint Kilda, the Duke of Wellington and Garden State Hotel in Melbourne. And if you want the full list, it's up on our Sky News website.
But this is part of.
A trend now of corporates trying to cancel our national Day. It follows wool Words refusing to sell Australia Day merchandise earlier this year and as you'll recall, about eighty councils change the date of Australia Day citizenship ceremonies. Now, Australia Day isn't about denying our history, what's and all.
It's about being grateful for the country we live in.
But there's this trend, pushed by activist groups and embraced by Corporate Australia, of trying to turn our national Day and our Australian flag and everything it stands for into.
A symbol of shame.
They're trying to make Australians feel guilty about celebrating our country. They're trying to bully us into being ashamed of our national day, and the majority of Australians don't want to change the date.
An IPA poll early this year.
Showed sixty three percent one to keep Australia Day on January twenty six. I personally always loved Australia Day, and don't we all have memories dating back decades of how we spent this one public holiday. Beach barbecue, friends, family, cricket in the backyard and on TV, hot swims, rolling thunderstorms, traditions passed down from one generation to the next.
I love this sunburnt country.
As Dorothy mckeli said, should be an Australia Day, a single day when we can celebrate this great nation of ours and how lucky we are to live here. But having said that, I do have to admit that this Australia Day will be heart Our country is not its best self under the Albanese government, from the deepening cost
of living crisis to the despicable rise in antisemitism. Australia at the end of twenty twenty four is sometimes not a country I recognize it seems everything Albanez he does as Prime Minister is only making life worse for Australians. We're pushing back at his radical changes and his misinformation laws thankfully were voted down, but much of his green left agenda is being rolled out and everyone is talking
about it. Almost every person I speak to says that this is the worst government and the worst prime minister in Australia's history.
Let's face it, our.
Beautiful country is not what it was just a few short years ago, and not what it can be with proper leadership restored. I love this country, but it can be better. And so this Australia Day in early twenty
twenty five will be bittersweet. We'll celebrate all that we have, but we have to vow to fight to protect our country from those who seek to undermine our way of life and destroy our social cohesion, those activists who found a friend in of all people, the Prime Minister now Anthony Albinezi, is denying a rift with Tanya Pleibisek after he killed off her environmental laws. But this saga is a fascinating insight into how the Prime Minister does business,
His lies and obfuscation. WA Premier Roger Cook said that he spoke to Albanzi on Tuesday and received an assurance that these laws would be on ice.
We were concerned in relation to some of the elements of the nature positive laws and we made that position very clear. Are very pleased to have received assurances from the highest levels of government that those laws will not be going ahead in their current form this week.
So the WA Premier saying pretty clearly there for everyone to see out a press conference that albin Ezi agreed to put these laws on ice. The understanding is that they would have been problematic politically at both the state and federal level in WA. So Albinizi made this decision apparently without consulting the Minister in charge, Tanya Plibasek, who'd been negotiating in good faith with the Greens. Albinizi tried
to deny all of this. Haven't Thirty host Sarah Ferguson It pushed him repeatedly, as she does in her persistent way.
You killed the environmental laws promised the last election in order to as we understand it, protects seats in Western Australia. Was that you just clearing the decks for an election.
No, well that's not right.
Did the legislation remain so stuck in the Senate we didn't have the majority for it, Sarah, there's.
A brain you killed the negotiations. So what did you say when the Premier of Western Australia rang you to or you spoke to the Premier of Western Australia to talk about that bill and why it should be held up?
I spoke to the Premier of WA about my visit to WA next week.
You didn't talk about the bill.
That was the BASI.
Well, I don't give all the details of my private discussions for premiers.
In talking about the bill? What did you say? Did you agree with him that it was not the right moment for that bill to be concluded? No?
I informed him that we didn't have the numbers.
So how did.
The Premier of Western Australia reached the conclusion that he had been instrumental in stopping that bill being resolved this week?
That's a question for the premiere. He's a good friend of mine.
And that went on.
So Albanize reluctantly admitted there that he had spoken to Roger Cook about this, but denied it was the reason he killed off the deal. He even denied that the laws were permanently done and dusted again. Plivosk, the Minister in charge, was reportedly never brought into this decision.
She did a deal with the.
Greens and that Albanezi in a meeting that didn't include her, that included Katie Gallagher, and the Greens killed it off. Now Albanezi has presented different versions of events of what happened. He even tried to claim a deal was never struck or at least not with him.
Have a look on these environment laws. Clearly a deal was either close or, according to the Greens, was done. They reckon you did.
I say that we hadn't And they don't say that David. There is no one in the Green says that I.
Agreed to it. And David Spears said he'd done a draft agreement or he'd seen a draft agreement between Plibasak and the Greens. Albanezi denied it again or said it wasn't with him.
There's no draft agreement to me, and what we did was make.
Sure saying that letter doesn't exist.
Well, no letter to me exists. I was negotiating across the parliament and that's how you have to do it. You can't have forty five sets of negotiations.
But a letter from the minister to the Greens that you're saying you weren't aware.
Of that, well, that wasn't a letter from me.
I mean, this is splitting hats. She's his cabinet minister. There was clearly an agreement between Plebisak on behalf of the Albenezy government and the Greens. But how can anyone believe anything this bloke says.
You've just seen how we twists and turns.
Albanezi has rejected suggestions that he was treating Tania Pilibisect poorly as minister.
When you told them there was no deal on this it was you adambout Sarah Hanson young but not in Katy Gallagher Okay, but not Tania Plibisik the minister.
Why not because we had forty five pieces of legislation.
David, I've had some of your caucus colleagues expressed to me a view that Tanya Plibisik was unnecessarily treated badly.
So Plibisek had done a deal and alban Easy and his mate Katie Gallagher undid it. So where does this leave Tanya Plibisek and her authority? This is disastrous disunity at the highest levels of the alban Ezy government, leaking going on to the ABC ahead of an interview with the Prime Minister from his own colleagues, and now he's facing ongoing questions about a rift.
And this is how are things between you and Chania Pilibasek, now though, because there's there's still confusion from some over what happened here in talk of an internal feud, can you categorically deny that.
Absolutely, there's still some It's extraordinary that the media want to concentrate on what didn't happen as opposed to what did happen.
Always criticizing the media, but the problems extend to other areas as well. There's reports today that tensions are flaring between the pair between Albanzi and plibisk over the controversial issue of salmon farming in Tasmania. And I'm going to talk about that with Joe gilder Brand and Steve Price in a moment. But clearly on the environment laws there was a deal that Albanzi scuffe it. Perhaps it didn't
bother him that he'd step all over Plibisek. They've been political rivals for years, but Tanya Plibisek is reportedly pretty angry about how this unfolded. And meanwhile, the sense voters have is that they're not being told the truth. I mean, wouldn't it have been better for alben Ezi to say, yep Wa was unhappy about these law it was going to cost us votes at the next election, so we
dump them. Isn't it better for him to be honest with Australians instead of muddling up excuses and getting caught out trying to twist the truth because voters are smart, certainly smarter than alban easy, that's for sure, and we can see easily through his shenanigans. All Right, a big show coming up. I've got New York Post columnist Miranda Devine joining me to discuss Joe Biden's stunning backflip on his decision to pardon his son Cameron Milner, Warren Mundine, Sarah Henderson.
But first, let's.
Bring in our Sky News host Steve Price and contributor Joe Hildebrandt.
Welcome.
Before we get to you, Joe trying to defend Albo Steve Price, we are seeing repeated signs here of disunity at the very top of the alban Easy government, not just the rift between alban Ezi and Antonia Plebisak, but colleagues who are really concerned about how he treated her, a senior woman in the Albanese government.
Yeah, it resembles the shambles, doesn't it. And when you put those clips together as you have tonight, I mean you can just see Anthony Albanesi dodging and weaving. It can be very interesting to see how Joe defends him tonight. But I mean you've got to go all the way back to when they won the election. I mean, Tania Plubisec wanted to be Education minister, as I understand it, and Anthony Alberanzi threw her the handball she didn't want to receive, which was environment She didn't want to do
that job. She was very unhappy about the job she was given. So it's no surprise that that's come to this. What is surprising though, is the fact that Anthony Albanezi would be so blunt about it that he would have Katie Gallagher in the meeting. He's got Bant there, he's got other Green MPs. I would say that in the past. I'll be interested in your view on the Sharin. In the past, a minister, cabinet minister treated that badly would put their hand up and say, I'm going to jump
out of this job. I'll go to the back bench. Thanks, and I'll see you down the track.
Joe, what do you think.
I'm not sure a cabinet minister would do that so publicly.
They knife the leader in the background.
I've done it in the past.
But this is an undeniable not just rift but leaking as well against the Prime minister.
Yeah, look, I think it's certainly Steve is right that Tanya plud Sect was expecting to continue in the education portfolio, in so much as anyone expected anything. But the Prime Minister's job is to allocate portfolios in the cabinet, and that is the Prime Minister's prerogative, so he's allowed to give anyone whatever jobs he wants in terms of the actual decision making, and again putting aside the sort of personal rift or whatever that people seem to be obsessed with.
Are you suggesting or is there a suggestion that the PM should have stuck with the nature positive laws done with the green where a deal has been done with the Greens. That could potend to.
The suggestion is he hasn't been a frunt about it.
And besides, these controversial laws were laws that he promised he would introduce before the elections.
Right, that's right, and in the and in the cold light of day once he's actually got his hands from the range.
It has been upfront about that.
But he hasn't he said no, we're still going to introduce them next year. He's not even saying that they're there.
Have There have been three three issues. And again I like Daniel Pipers a lot as well as you say, I like everybody. But there was the mcfillmy's gold mine fast where this blue band don't exist.
We do this every one week.
There was there was a there was a literal one billion dollar gold mine where a submission about a blue banded bee and there's a dreaming of that and a dreaming of that bee that the actual local official Aboriginal elders say is bogus, is bollis.
Or her decisions?
Can I just say they are both from the radical left faction.
Tania plab second an.
Easy and leadership governing from the center. State's gardening from this.
He's not even governing at all, John.
Good Gardening at all.
He's not not just not from the center, he's not governing at all.
But Tanyli, you would rather deal with the Greens goast.
No one said that Joe tiny Plibise remains a future leadership threat to alban Easy and that's why he's so concerned about her and why he put her in this portfolio in the first place, and potentially why she's causing him so many problems.
Let's turn to the budget now.
We're looking at fresh budget forecasts from economist Chris Richardson and have a look at what he said.
He said that since being.
Elected, the government has made decisions that have added one hundred and four billion dollars to spending while also raising taxes by forty four billion dollars for a net worsening of the budget bottom line by six see billion dollars. Steve, isn't this irresponsible spending in an inflation crisis?
Well, of course it is.
I mean, and he may be copying Tim Pallas in Victoria, because all they do down here is also try and spend their way out of trouble. I mean, they've made so many promises. I mean, obviously the hex deebt promise is going to be very expensive. Jim Chalmers got lucky, he got two surpluses and now the economics have caught up with him and as they head toward the election the time he couldn't be any worse. The debt is soaring.
Are you going to get budget deficits are The Australian reported last week there was a forty two billion dollar turnaround to the worst downwards and so now they're going to have to fight an election. They're going to have to promise more things that they have to go. If they go, you know, in the first half of next year, they're going to have to come out after the Christmas break and promise more spending. That's the only way they
think they're going to get re elected. Make expensive promises and hope you suck people in.
Yeah, I think that is going to be a made worry pre election spending announcements.
But Joe, I want to get your prediction.
There's a lot of debate over whether or not there's going to be another budget.
What do you think?
Look, it's a hard one. I think the most important thing they will be looking at is not the budget. It's whether or not there is a likelihood of a rate cart, So that will determine whether or not they go for an election. If they think they can just squeeze out and going to happen before an election, that's right.
So if it looks like that, if it looks like there's going to be no chance of a rate card, they will probably go early because they will not want to be in the middle of a campaign with people hoping for or expecting a rate cut and not getting one, So you would go earlier.
So he might not return to parliament in that scenario.
I think the budget is this I think yea possibly. I think the budget is a secondary consideration. And while I certainly understand that, you know, people who like to pour over these figures and have an understanding of economics know what the implication of a budget surplus or deficit is for the economy. Most people simply think, what's in
it for me? What am I getting out of it? Clearly, the government has spent more than a lot of people would like, but it's made that decision deliberately because it was not prepared to accept you know, people sort of falling through the cracks during what has been a much longer cost of living crisis than and more severe I think than most people expected.
I think the spending is in a range of areas, not just the cost of living crisis. But let's keep moving and have a look at the warnings we're now getting about blackouts, and not just for New South Wales either, but across the country. The Daily Telegraph reporting that without urgent action, will all be paying more for power even when it's not working. I mean, Steve Price, if there are blackouts or the risk of it, or if yet again we're told to limit our power use over the
summer months and we're just starting summer now. I mean, look, this has been gross mishandling of our energy system by both state and federal governments.
Can you imagine being in a country as rich in energy as we are and having a Premier Tellia last week to turn your dishwasher often, don't put the air conditioner on full ball because you might force a blackout. In New South Wales, extraordinary, it wasn't even hot. It got to thirty three or thirty four degrees. It wasn't even like a forty degree day. I mean, it's just unbelievable that we're in this position and it's going to get worse. And then I just can't believe Chris Bowen
dancing around the country. You know, I was celebrating the fact that he's going to be the renewables king when the rest of the country might have blackouts. I mean, Joe talks about an early election. Well, they might be having an early election in the middle of say, you know, March, when it's forty really is forty degrees in western Sydney and people can't turn their air conditioners on. That's going to be That's going to go down well in an election campaign, isn't it.
Yeah, that's a very good point. I mean, you think about Chris Bowen. There are so many ministers in the Albanezi government who would be competing for the title of the worst most unpopular minister. Is it Panny Wong, is it Chris Bowen, is it Tony Berg? I mean, you've never met a less likable government.
There's some very likable people in the government. If you just get to know them, Sharry.
I'll introduce you to them.
But Manimal, there's I think certainly it is not the time to be crowing about climate change and renewables at a time when people cannot afford to pay their power bills or even turn on their appliances in the middle of a heatwave. Ironically, of course, the same people who were saying that this renewable stuff is all crazy, the same people saying there's going to be record hot days in March, like there were record hot days in November. So maybe there's a little bit of something to this
climate change thing. But the truth is it's spending omni shambles. It's been not hot days at all.
There are two.
There are two, there are two.
Regid history of hot temperatures in Mate.
Well, certainly it's been very hot in November.
Dorothy mckeller earlier, as she said, we've always had a sign we.
Have we have in God love it. But it is getting worse.
But the at least it should be swamped in rain.
Yesterday it was that's right, very amatic weather light.
And then today it was all right, we've got to move and we've got to get to.
Be part of the reason for the shortages because colified plants have not been maintained.
We need more gas in this yes, and that hasn't been investment, deliberate decision to kill them off, Steve Price, Joe, you're making him shake.
His head.
Against it's the whole audience against you.
Al but easy.
Look at what is another repressed.
Back up people? Thank you both for joining me again.
All right, as we spoke about at the start of the show, the nation's second biggest pubs group, Australian Venue Co, has been forced to backflip on their boycott of Australia Day after a massive backlash from Australians. Let's bring it now, the director of the Indigenous Forum at the Center for Independent Studies worrying Mundane Warren.
So good to see you, as always see you.
How did you did you view this as the latest company to engage in virtue signaling.
Look, it's probably the worst one because there's been a number of companies now have cropped a flogging over this issue, and they've seen it during the Voice campaign and so the last Australia Day in twenty twenty four and then they still come out, you know, a couple of months before the next Australia Day and come up with this dog of an idea. We're all getting sick and tired of this the Australian people are getting the sick and tired of it, and we're not going to cop it anymore.
You know, we celebrate Australia Day not because of talking about invasions and we're talking about James Cooker alf of Philip and that we celebrate Australia Day because Australia is a great country and Australians are great people. All the migrants who come here worked hard. Some of them couldn't even speak English when they come here and they got out. They worked in the factories, they worked out on the roads.
I worked with them across the country in regards to pipelines and power stations and all the incredible, amazing people
who help build this country. And we've got people who have been here for over two hundred years and in those institutions we have in the rule of law and everything like that, and then of course the indigenous people you know, been here for thousands of years, and we've built this amazing country of multiculturalism, in a multi face, multi everything, multi It's just an amazing, amazing country and it's underfreat and as you said in your introduction tonight,
you know, Shari, you know nowadays underfret and the time we need everyone to come together and to work together. We have a stupid company like the AVC coming out and saying we're not going to celebrate Australia and forcing their staff and not celebrate it. And I'm sure there's a lot of people who work for them who actually do want to celebrate it, but also putting them in
a dangerous position. Couldn't you imagine if someone accidentally walks into one of their pubs, got is Australian t shirt on and his flag on his head, and he comes up and he gives the blake a cuddlet at the bar and says, Happy Australia Day. What's that staff member supposed to do?
You know, this is ask you though you know you have very mainstream views and some of these issues you're rejecting, the.
Push to change the date.
What sort of backlash do you get from some Indigenous Australians but also from you know, the radical left.
All the good news for me is in the Indigenous Australians is a lot of people support my views. You see them coming out you know today and yesterday's saying hey, you know, we want to support you know Australia. In fact, I was in Kannanara a few years ago when I got rung on the phone from an Australian TV show and they said, look what average will seek. And I said, well, I'm just passing the phone around here because I'm standing with twenty of them. I passed the phone around and
everyone responded, we don't care. We just want to have a good day. We're going to celebrate and bring it together. And they were shocked. They said, here we are niece and Kimberley's Aboriginal people think that way. Well, a lot of Abriiginals people think that there were too many people listen to these radicals. But as you say, against this are non Abriugals, white.
People and that.
But do you think these activists are going to continue and continue to bully everyone on this issue until the date has changed.
Oh, They're going to keep on bullying. There's no doubt about that. You know, I'm always reminded by Margaret Margaret factors in comments. You know, you don't win wars, win you win battles, and then the next morning you get up and fight the same battle again. But the difference now is Australia has caught a cop that in the past,
but since the voice they saying, Okay, you're bastards. We we love this country, we love the migrants who come here, we love, love, love the British institutions we've got, we love the Indigenous people, and we all want to come together and work together and keep on this journey of building a strong, important and incredible nation. And they're sick and tired of all this division that people are pushing. And I'm glad to see that this company got a bit of a whack around the head and it almost
come to come back to common sense. They didn't actually say that they were going to support Australia today. You know, you've got to be reading some of their medly mouth words. We're going to fight these people because we want to keep Australia as a great nation. Everyone can come together, no matter what their faith is and what their ethneticity is, and make this country a better country.
Yeah, well, said Warren Mundine. Thank you very much for joining me tonight. Really appreciate it.
Thank you.
Now still to Comet, Camera's Rumormel is working over time. Cameron Milner is going to join us with to spill the beans on the inside detail of the rift between Tanya Pliversek and Anthony Alberinezi, plus Joe Biden's extraordinary lie pardoning his son Hunter. Miranda Devine, who wrote the book on the Laptop from Hell, will join me next.
That's after this quick break. Welcome back. We're US.
President Joe Biden and his press secretary Karine Jean Pierre have repeatedly promised not to make any moves to pardon Hunter Biden.
But let me ask you.
Will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter what it is. Yes? And have you ruled out a pardon for your son?
Yes?
I shared admired by the jury decision, and I will do that and I will not partner him.
From a presidential perspective, is there any possibility that the president would end up pardoning his son?
I just said no.
I just answer, go ahead, go ahead.
It's the same the world over, political lies and spit, And of course, in his final days in the White House, Joe Biden today once again went against his word and pardoned his son Hunter. Biden was found guilty of lying about his drug use when buying a gun, as well as tax evasion, and now he's going to be spared a prison sentence. The President, in a statement, blamed a confected witch hunt. He said there'd been a miscarriage of justice.
He said the charges in his cases came about only after several of my political opponents in Congress instigated them to attack me and oppose my election. He said, no reasonable person who looks at the facts of Hunter's cases can reach any other conclusion than Hunter was singled out only because he's my son.
Well, that is some rewriting of history.
As you know, this entire story was censored by tech giants eight years ago. Well I spoke about this stunning backflip with the author of two books related to this case, Laptop from Hell and The Big Guy, Miranda Divine, a little earlier. Maranda Divine, thank you so much for your time. As always, firstly, what's your reaction to the news that Joe Biden, who promised that the law would apply equally to everyone, has now pardoned his son Hunter.
Well, look, Sherry, I think it's probably the least surprising news of the decade, certainly the least surprising news of this whole Hunter Biden saga. It was obvious that Joe Biden was going to pardon his son, despite the fact that he had repeatedly vowed.
Not to do it.
You know, he's told reporters that there was no way that he was going to pardon his son, that he promised not to do it, and he was going to not do it because he was a man of his word.
Karine Jean Pierre and the.
White House podium kept on saying, I mean as recently as just after the election, she kept on reiterating, no, Joe Biden's not going to pardon his son. But you know, Joe Biden never keeps his word. He's always breaking promises, he's always telling lies. So I think it's rather fitting that one of the final acts that this president makes before he leaves office is to break yet another promise to the American people.
Well, Miranda.
In his statement explaining his decision, Joe Biden claimed that Hunter had been done by and persecuted and unfairly targeted.
I mean, Miranda, what about your two books.
Your thorough investigation has been anything remotely unfair. It's really been the opposite, hasn'tant. There's barely been any action taken.
You're absolutely right, it's been the complete opposite. Hunter Biden has acted always with impunity. He's broken the law, He's committed crimes.
I mean, he's admitted to.
Committing tax fraud and tax evasion when he pleaded guilty in September to those felony charges in California that would have carried, you know, at least average a three year jail term, and when he was convicted by a jury in Delaware on those gun charges in June, he knew that his father's power and influence would always protect him.
And as you said, in both of my books, in Laptop from Hell and in The Big Guy, I've charted just how his father and his father's minions in the government, whether it be the FBI or the Department of Justice, or the State Department, or the CIA or even the irs, have all swung in behind Hunter Biden to clean up
his messes, to get him off the hook. He was constantly getting into trouble and being a problem because he was a crack addict, and he was ricocheting around the world just basically extracting money from America's adversaries, from China, from Russia, from Ukraine, all sorts of places that his father, when he was vice president, had power over by a Hunter, would just sort of invoke his father's name and promise various favors from his father, and he would get millions of dollars.
Miranda, do you think there's any chance that under a Trump administration we will see some of these matters properly investigated for the first time.
Look, I don't know. I know that Donald Trump has just, for instance, nominated cash Patel to be the FBI director, which has caused great conniptions on the seventh floor of the JAD Gohoover Building in Washington, DC, where the top executives sit because Cash Patel, when he worked for a congressman who was the head of the Intelligence Committee back
in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, Devin Nuness. Cash Pateel was instrumental in exposing the Russia Gate hoax and the wrongdoing by various people in the FBI and other members of the deep state in framing and Hillary Clinton's campaign, as well in framing Donald Trump as being somehow of Vladimir Putin's lackey, an agent of Russia that was all false and shown to be false by the Muller report,
but it crippled Donald Trump's presidency. So once bitten twice shy, He's now put a real attack dog in there to clean out the FBI, and I'm sure that Cash Pattel. It's not about vengeance, but it's about accountability for those people who who really perverted the.
Course of justice.
And in my second book, The Big Guy, I talk about how with the Hunter Biden and Joe Biden corruption story, the biggest story ended up being the cover up by those agencies I mentioned the CIA, FBI, Department of Justice, State Department, and in basically protecting Joe Biden and covering up the crimes of his family and the corruption of his family and also the fact that he was involved, that was very elaborate cover up and really compromised those institutions,
the security apparatus of the United States. I think that at the very least the fifty one former intelligence officials, most of them from the CIA, who signed that dishonest letter saying that the laptop was Russian disinformation, I think they will be seeing some scrutiny on their behavior, and at the very least they'll have their security clearances revoked. And since many of them are current CIA contractors. They
weren't just formers, they were contractors. But even more sinister is the fact that that letter got the green light from the then CIA director under Donald Trump, Gina Haspell. She knew full well as did everyone who signed the letter,
that it wasn't Russian disinformation. And she should have known that the FBI had had possession of that laptop since November of twenty or December of twenty nineteen, and they'd verified that it was Hunter Biden's, that it was not tampered with, and that it was fit for use in a court of law, which it was used in June.
In that Delaware courtroom, I sat there and I watched as that silver MacBook Pro was held aloft by the prosecutor, walked across the courtroom, shown to the jury, and then shown to the FBI forensic expert in the witness box, who verified that yes, this was Hunter Biden's laptop, the very laptop we were told wasn't real.
Yeah, it's extraordinary.
I mean, it's been eight years now since the laptop was first discovered. It's been such an extraordinary journey since then, the claim of Russian disinformation, the tech platforms removing it are now in a sense, it's come full circle Biden having to take the step of pardoning his son, and we may or may not see more thorough investigation under the.
Likes of Patel and John Ratcliffe. We'll see, all right.
Moranda Devine, thank you so much much for joining us.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you, Sherry, it's great to see you again.
All right, Still coming up with the show the teals accused of lacking integrity. Sarah Henderson will join me later, but first Albanize's rifted with Tanya Plibersak. Cameron Milner will spill the beans. That's after this quick break. Okay, let's get straight into it. Former Queensland Labor State Secretary and former chief of staff to Bill Shott and Cameron Milner joins me. Now, Cameron, let's turn to this rift reported
rift between Albanezi and Pliversak. What inside detail can you tell us from labor circles.
Well, there's definitely a rift, and there's been a rift for a long time between the two of them. I mean they're neighboring electrics there. Both members are left, but they hate each other's guts. Behind the scenes, and you know, as one left minister said to me, it all goes back to a lover's tiff, a lovers tiff. I don't subscribe to that theory. I think it's far more simple, far more venal Albot.
Is challenged by Tenure.
Tanyure is a talent.
Albo is a dud.
Tanyure was going to be Deputy Prime Minister under Bill Shorten and was demoted demoted from Education to Environment by Albert and in fact threatened to be left the ministry altogether. Alba was so threatened by her at that stage. Now only only the threat of her causing a by election in her seat and leaving Parliament all together kept her in the ministry. So no, I think there's a lot of animosity between the two of them, and a lot of Albo being very paranoid about just how talented Tanure is.
I just want to clarify something, just so that our viewers don't get the wrong idea. When you said lover's tiff rift, there's no suggestion at all that they've been in any relationship in recent history, but perhaps dating back decades and decades and decades they might have been close then.
But it's unconfirmed.
No, that's right.
A senior Left ministry or colleague said, despite the age difference many years ago, that's had occurred.
It may or may not have Matt.
Yeah, unconfirmed, but yeah, those are rumors from decades ago. Industry minister ed Husick the most senior Muslim politician. He's begged voters not to punish Labor over the Middle East issue.
He gave an.
Interview where he basically has accused Israel of all the atrocities in Gaza and Lebanon. No mention of Hamaso Hesbela, no mention of the hostages, God forbid, he should care about the hostages. I mean, Cameron, is this one sided, biased and a blatant misrepresentation of how this war has unfolded.
And it's absolute disgrace. I mean, if ed Husick wants to be the Muslim votes candidate for Chiffley, let him resign and go and be the n of the Muslim votes candidate. Don't disgrace the Labor Party with such appalling, appalling coverage. But to his point about the article today about being worried the Muslim vote might not vote Labor, this is like a pyromaniac who started a bushfire and worried because the wind change, it's coming back to Bernie's
own house. Ed Husick's right up to his eyeballs in inciting this sort of stuff, just as he did today in the news, with things which are factually incorrect, completely biased and aren't aren't what the Labour Party should be saying about Israel.
Yeah, one hundred percent.
It's astonishing that the biopartisan support for Israel has been abandoned. I mean, on this topic, Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke has come out and defended his decision to refuse the former Israeli minister Alet Shaked her visa application. I mean camerin when this government fast tracked the visas for nearly three thousand gardens, and we know because we've reported it, that some of them either express sentiments supporting hermas on
social media or have been linked to hermas. I mean, how can he have made this decision?
Well, it's a terrible decision, and I think you had a really good interview last week which I listened to with the Israeli former minister. I mean, she's not a security risk. She might have strong views, but goodness me, that's what a democracy is all about. No the three thousand gardens without security checks who were just led into the country because Tony Burke's got a problem his own
electorate a Watson to hold the vote. There was terrible misjudgment, terrible misjudgment by the Albanese government, but made far worse, far worse by insulting a senior minister and a woman senior minister from one of our strongest allies, Shari so No an appalling decision and just goes to the virtue, signaling that Burke wants out there in the electorate of Watson to try to save his hide.
It's all about domestic politics, no question. I mean, Camra Mildy, you know you must not recognize the Labor Party we're seeing at the moment.
Well, I mean, I worry for the Labor Party. I think there are some really great people in the Labor Party. I had a Jewish friend who said they were about to resign. I'd convinced them to stay because I think we need good people in the Labor Party, the Labor Party to get back to being in the center, rather than being run by people whose only interest is getting themselves re elected. In a Western Sydney Electric and everything goes through that prison of their own personal politics to
get re elected. The Labor Party is much bigger than any one individual.
Yeah, all right, Camra mil thank you very much for joining me tonight.
Now after the break, we'll look at the integrity of the Teals with Shadow Education Minister Sarah Henderson.
That's next.
All right, let's bring in our Shadow Education Minister Sarah Henderson.
Sarah, great to see you as always.
Look, I want to get your reaction to the fact that some of the Teals are endorsing a controversial independent candidate, Cherry.
Good evening, great to join you.
Yes, this is Alex Dyson in Wannan, who says he's an independent, but he's been endorsed by the Teals and he's had a very sordid history being involved in all sorts of tasteless stunts As an ABC comedian, he worked for Triple Jay as a breakfast host. But most offensive of all, Sharry, he participated in a horrifically offensive holocaust joke. He never apologized for that joke. Frankly, it's discussed. I'm not going to repeat what he said because it's so offensive.
His co host Tom Ballard did apologize, the ABC did apologize, but this frankly joker never did. And as for the Teals claiming they raise the standards in the parliament, they're concerned about integrity. Why has someone of this color been endorsed. He simply is not fit to represent the people of Wanten and he never even apologized. So that says teld you everything you want to know about the Teals.
Yeah, Sarah, I also want to ask you about the Albanizi government their failure to stop the use of the university Students Support and Amenities fee for student protests. You're saying that this is week leadership from Jason Claire. Can you explain to us how this fee works.
So, the government has mandated that forty percent of this fee, which of course is tens of millions of dollars, will go to student organization and student led unions. And we put up an amendment in the parliament last week amidst the debikle in the Senate, with of course dozens of bills being shot through the Senate, and that amendment was to stop this money being used for protests.
Sherry.
The universities have been, as you know, an absolute hotbed of anti Semitism. I'm so concerned that this money is going to be used to print off posters and to fund anti Semitic hate and incitement by some of the student unions. And unbelievably, the government refused to support our amendment and that is more incredible weakness of leadership from Jason Clare.
Sarah.
Just finally, I want to get your reaction as well to the move we saw today where a corporate, a company that owns two hundred pubs in Australia, threatened to boycott Australia Day. They had to backflip on their decision, but you know this is part of a trend that we're now seeing a patent of corporates wanting to virtue signal.
Oh absolutely, and I think they've been caught out for that. They've now reversed their position. I want to see Australia Day being celebrated right across this great country. It's a day which brings Australians together.
It should not divide, and any.
Corporate or any local council who wants to play politics with Australia Day, I think Australians are coming after them. Australians Love Australia Day. It's a very special day and as I say, any corporate who does what these pubs have done will rue the day that they tried to divide Australians.
Yeah, I mean, there's this trend where we're met to feel embarrassed about our national flag instead of feel proud of the fact and grateful for the fact that we live in Australia, even though, as I said at the start of the show, it could be in better shape if it weren't for the current Albanezy government. Right, Sarah Henderson, thank you so much for your time, really appreciate it.
That's it for me.
I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock. Our final two weeks on air before the Christmas break. Don't miss the show in the next two weeks and up right now, my good mate Paul Murray
M HM.