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Anthony Albanese attends a $100,000 dinner with super donors at Sydney’s Aria as Aussies struggle to get by, Liberals hint at tax cuts if elected. Plus, Dutton pledges $35 million to restore Melbourne's firebombed Adass Israel synagogue.

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Speaker 1

Why on Sky News this is Sharry Good Evening tonight.

Speaker 2

Gas lighting on a national scale exposed. What did the Albanezy government downplay the state of anti Semitic violence for election purposes? My thoughts in a moment, and I'll speak

with Alex Rifchin also in the show. Over one million dollars of taxpayer funds wasted on decolonizing breastfeeding Australia's next potential doge Jacenta nambajimper Price would join me to on earth this absurd spending and Albanezi accused of hypocrisy over a one hundred thousand dollars dinner with super donors at Aria or the details in a moment.

Speaker 1

Well, it was a.

Speaker 2

Week ago today that police stood up at a press conference and claimed that a spate of anti Semitic attacks was not in fact anti Semitism. They told Australia this Vilellan spree was the work of organized crime and not

driven by an ideological hatred for Jews. Well, these inaccurate claims have now landed police in hot water, and there are questions about whether there was any political pressure to downplay this crisis, because it's now emerged that the figure reportedly behind this spate of attacks is sayet Erhan Akka, who has praised Hitler, questioned the existence of the Holocaust and said that Zionists were at the root of terrorism.

Speaker 1

Yes, Zionists.

Speaker 2

The Daily Telegraph reports he was arrested in twenty twenty one with trying to import a commercial quantity of drugs. If found guilty, they say Aka could be facing life in jail, but he fled while on bail and a warrant for his arrest was issued in September twenty twenty three, and according to The Telly, he's been traveling between Asia and Turkey ever since.

Speaker 1

Now.

Speaker 2

As you know, police claimed that anti Semitism wasn't a motivation, that it was simply to get a more lenient sentence. Yet major revelations in The Australian over the past few days that Akka, who is Muslim, has a history of making extremely anti Semitic remarks. The OSRA ports that in one post, Aka claims that Hitler was only washing earth they made him out to be evil. On Facebook, one of Aka's Facebook friends named Ronnie, posted a picture of

the Nazi manifesto. You can see that here with the words arians assemble and that was the caption, and then underneath it, Aka wrote rise of the Fifth riche Hail Ronnie. In another comment that I found when I was looking through his social media last night, Aka wrote, getting ready for the Arab an Aryan Alliance. The depression is coming, brother, the Arab an Aryan Alliance.

Speaker 1

Now.

Speaker 2

Aka's comment was in response to a post about a German fire right party becoming the second strongest party at the time. Now The Australian reports that separately, Aka posted I ain't racist, I have a jew disorder and in twenty eighteen, Aka wrote on the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies facebook page, how did six million die when only three point two registered Jews in Europe.

Speaker 1

At the time?

Speaker 2

And The Australian reports that the very next day, in response to a story about Vandal's targeting the Jewish community by spraying swastikas on cars, Akka responded zig Hale.

Speaker 1

In twenty sixteen, Aka.

Speaker 2

Blamed Zionism for being the root of terror. He wrote, rip to all those innocents that have died in Aleppo and around the world in the hands of terrorism, and I mean from the root of terrorism America and the Zionists taking out these people like Saddam bin Leyden and Gaddafi.

Speaker 1

Look what it started. He also wrote, you.

Speaker 2

Still think nine to eleven was not an inside job to start this money making and Muslim massacre process, delete yourself now. So clearly a deeply disturbing anti Semitic ideology behind the criminal who police allege was targeting the Jewish community. Now the Australian newspaper has done a terrific job exposing this over the.

Speaker 1

Past few days.

Speaker 2

Yet police publicly claimed a week ago today that anti Semitism was not a motivating factor. The AFP Deputy Commissioner Chrissy Barrett said the motivation was organized crime and a reduced sentence, not anti Semitism. She spoke about wanting to give comfort, her words comfort to the Jewish community, and she used words like fake.

Speaker 1

And criminal conjob.

Speaker 2

Here were some of those remarks from Chrisy Barrett that we now know were misleading and irresponsible.

Speaker 3

It's absolutely reprehensible that criminals would be taking advantage of the current environment when we know there is already a lot of fear and a lot of anxiousness in the environment to be leveraging that for their own benefit.

Speaker 2

At that press conference, New South Wales police backed up the view of the AFP.

Speaker 4

But you were saying that they were being carried out by people within a so many views, so peop led by criminals.

Speaker 5

Correct, And.

Speaker 6

You don't have any evidence that he is being driven by I hate you say that it's allege that.

Speaker 5

It's organized crime.

Speaker 4

Correct, that you're saying that they weren't being carried out by people within a Semitic view, so being led by criminals.

Speaker 7

Correct.

Speaker 2

Okay, And at no point did the AFPs Chrissy Barrett disagree with any of those assessments. That was a joint press conference New Southereles police reinforced the view yet again in that press conference that anti Semitism wasn't behind the spate of attacks.

Speaker 8

So just a question on the arrests that you'd made. You said that you didn't believe anti semitism or an ideology.

Speaker 9

For any of those arrested.

Speaker 8

Do you also believe that anti Semitism was not an ideology for anyone higher up pulling any industries on any of the incidents.

Speaker 7

I think what these organized crime heads have done is play to vulnerabilities in the community. Obviously there have been anti Semitic attacks of lower nature and a lot of anger and angst within the community. We've seen that since October seventh, twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2

Now, Dave Hudson later admitted in budget estimates, and that was Dave Hudson, the New Southwales Police Deputy Commissioner. He later set in budget estimates that he didn't actually know what the motivation was because it was the AFP who'd been handling the informant. But this was a major joint press conference between the AFP and New South Wales Police and make no mistake, antisemitism was categorically ruled out as

being behind the attacks. Now, this led to a widespread view that the antisemitism crisis had been confected, created by Peter Dutton and NewsCorp and there was nothing to see. And Anthony Alberinezi picked up on the idea of it all being a hoax.

Speaker 10

So whilst it was a folks a hoax and the motivation was about criminal activities and not related to those issues, the fear that it created was very.

Speaker 1

Real, wrong, wrong, wrong.

Speaker 2

So, as I said, the sense is that this has been a confected and fake crisis, and you think about that word fake. Well, the AFP Deputy Commissioner Chrissy Barrett use the word fake seven times in her opening remarks.

Speaker 3

Well, we are confident these tip offs were fake. There were several people who had different levels of involvement in this fake terrorism plot. A number of people have been identified as part of this fake terrorism plot. Regardless of the motivation of those responsible for this fake plot, those creating fake terror threats face being charged for creating fake plots. High powered weapons for a fake terror.

Speaker 2

Plot, fake, fake, fake, and that word fake has cut through the city. My herold's David Crowe attacked Peter Dutton, writing why was he so quick to create a confected crisis out of a criminal plot? A nine News reported that the entire antisemitism crisis was a hoax.

Speaker 11

So I d Massoui is one of fourteen people arrested after the Dural Caravan investigation uncovered the wave of antisemitism across our city was a criminal.

Speaker 2

Hoax, and the ABC suggested that maybe the understanding of antisemitism should be revised down.

Speaker 1

Do we need to revise down our understanding? The number of genuine anti Semitic attacks that have taken place.

Speaker 2

And now there's a whole movement in New South Wales Parliament to overturn Premier Chris Mins's hate speech laws. Now, there had been political pressure from the Albanese government on the Joint Police Task Force to state publicly that this wasn't a terror attack, to push the narrative that it was a hoax. I told you this on Thursday Night's program, and so Tony Burke was ready to go with his attack lines against Dutton right after the police press conference.

Now this is part of the Albaneze government's push to downplay antisemitism as an issue, to claim there's no national security crisis here at all. But we now know categorically the alleged mastermind had praised Hitler, blamed Zionism for terrorism and said an Arab alliance was coming. Now, the question that the Australian newspaper posed on its front page on Saturday, you can see it here. They said, police say attacks not motivated by hate. But if this is an antisemitism,

what is? And that is exactly right. So the Australian Federal Police now need to say publicly whether they knew about AKUSC commentary when they deliberately downplayed antisemitism as a motivating factor behind the attacks, because.

Speaker 1

Either the AFP did know about.

Speaker 2

Akis anti semitism and then misled the public, or the AFP didn't know about his social media commentary, in which case this is an appalling indictment on the lackluster investigative efforts of the AFP. How could journalists at the Australian uncover these remarks but not the AFP. Now I asked the AFP these questions today. I also asked whether they will be apologizing to Australians for their dangerous messaging that has in fact exacerbated this crisis. But the AFP would

an answer. They gave me a statement saying they believe the person wanted a change to their criminal status.

Speaker 1

Of course, both things can be true.

Speaker 2

Now, Alex Riftrin has spoken powerfully about the devastating impact that press conference has had. He said it's exposed dangerous failings by authorities, political leaders and public figures who chose to characterize the fire bombings that hit Jewish targets as a hoax or conjob unconnected to anti Semitic ideology, and

to do so before the investigation had been concluded. He said it set off a deluge of anti Semitic conspiracy theories about inside jobs and increased harassment and vilification of Jews, and Alex will be on the show shortly, but this is all extraordinary and deeply disturbing and we have to

call it out. The black and white evidence shows that Akka has made vile anti Semitic remarks, and yet without arresting him or even interviewing him, the AFP publicly declared that this wave of terror targeting Jewish businesses, schools and places of worship was not anti Semitism. This created a dangerous denial of anti Semitism in the community and in the media, and it emboldened those who never wanted to admit that there was a problem in the first place.

It's led to more harassment and more hatred. And we've seen this pattern before. The same authorities who told us there were no laws broken when a mob at the Sydney Opera House chanted f the Jews instead of gas the Jews were they're now trying to convince Australia that Jewish property being vandalized and firebomb is somehow not anti Semitic. This is gas lighting on a national scale. Words matter,

the language of law enforcement and political leaders matter. Consider how the Albanezy government pushed for police to publicly claire the caravan wasn't a terror threat, how quick Tony Burke was to seize on the police position for political advantage, gleefully attacking Dutton. And you have to wonder is this political expediency? Could the Albanezy government actually stoop so low as to downplay this serious issue because.

Speaker 1

It's on the eve of an election.

Speaker 2

Australia's leaders, entrusted with all of our safety and all of our national security, have showed cowardice an indifference on this crisis from the.

Speaker 1

Very beginning and now right before the election.

Speaker 2

Law enforcement positions a state of very serious and violent attacks as a hoax, as fake, a fake threat, despite the fact lives could have been lost and it's lucky they weren't.

Speaker 1

This entire saga is not over.

Speaker 2

There is more to come and we will not allow those in control to bury the truth. Okay, I'm going to be joined by Alex Rifchin in a little bit to speak about that. But now let's bring in Liberal Senator Holly Hughes and Sky News contributor Joe Hildebrand.

Speaker 1

Welcome, here.

Speaker 2

I'm going to come back to that topic, but I want to get through or talk about some of the other big stories today because tonight the Prime Minister is being condemned as tone deaf yet again. Aaron Patrick in The Nightly reports that the Prime Minister attended one hundred thousand dollars fundraising dinner with super donors at the Elite Ariat restaurant and you can see here photographs of the Prime Minister arriving. Pretty extraordinary. They were there to capture

the moment and Holly. The article points out that this as most Australians are dealing with the cost of living crisis and the hypocrisy here is a pertinent one given Alban Eazy was attack Dutton for a fundraiser just last week.

Speaker 12

Well, I think it's the fact that they were attacking Peter Dutton for attending to a fundraiser.

Speaker 1

The night before.

Speaker 12

In fact, it was supposed to be on the same night. It turned out that they moved this function in the area by one night. I wonder where Murray Watt is today. He was sent out as the yapping dogs last week to attend to attack Dutton. And we have a major day with CFMU News and he is workplace Relations and he was the attack dog sent out to attack Dutton for attending a fundraiser. And they're very quiet today. I mean, the thing about this Labor government, if they didn't have

double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all. And this is just another example of their absolute betrayal of the Australian people and how they continually undermine anyone's faith in government and the political process because of their own poor behavior.

Speaker 1

Joe is very rare for.

Speaker 2

Media to actually capture images of peace arriving for such a small elite fundraising dinner like this. But look, you've got to admit it's not a good look. This is a very fancy restaurant.

Speaker 1

You know, their.

Speaker 2

Bottles of champagne go up to ten thousand dollars.

Speaker 1

Two hundred and fifty.

Speaker 13

Dollars would be paying literally one thousandth of that for my plank. Yeah, look at fundraisers are never a good look. Both parties have them in the lead up and especially so obviously in the lead up to elections. It never looks particularly well, I don't think. And you know, good on the you know, good on the Nightly forgetting the yard that's great, but I don't think the two are comparable.

The PM only attended this fundraiser yesterday on Sunday after delaying it for more than a week because it was because of Cyclone Alfred. The allegation or the who had that was kicked up about Peter Dutton attending a fundraiser in Justin Hems's Place on the Harbor was that it was in the middle of Cyclone Alfred and that was in.

Speaker 1

Four days topical psycho.

Speaker 13

Tropical low Alfred. But that followed Peter Dutton criticizing the PM and saying he would be tone deaf if he called an election. So it was just a process of tit for tat.

Speaker 12

But it's also on the back of Albaneze skipping out of Parliament going up to Far North Queensland for the floods because he had to go early in the morning, and it turns out he had to go early in the morning, not stand up for the people of Australia, not answer questions in question time, which is his job.

He went up there, got a private plane doesn't have to go commercial routes, and then was on the ground in Far North Queensland for a couple of hours because he had to get the plane back to Brisbane for a big labor fundraiser that night in Brisbane. And I think maybe this is where the Labor government. You know,

everyone does have fundraisers. It's an election, but the fact that Labor is so desperate that their record is so bad that they are so keen to attacked up and for absolutely anything, Yet their own form is there to see and if they don't want their own form called out, if they don't want the wh hypocrisy at least Peter Dutton wasn't zipn around in the VIP and skipping out of pot in the same way out.

Speaker 13

Though it was fired by Peter Dutton when he basically boxed elbow into a corner and said, if you call an election during this.

Speaker 9

Emergency event which have just.

Speaker 2

Downplayed to be fair Joe treasure Treasurer Jim Chalmers was also telling the Prime Minister behind the scenes the election.

Speaker 13

I was saying it would be a terrible idea as well. But Peter Dutton was clearly making a bit of political hay with it.

Speaker 2

Right, let's let's keep let's have a look at some of the other stories tonight. Dutton has hinted that income tax cuts could be on the agenda and the Coalitions, pointing to research showing that the average Australian had to pay three and a half thousand dollars more intacts last financial year compared to before Albanizi became Prime minister.

Speaker 1

Holly, what are you hearing about?

Speaker 2

Obviously he can't announce it, al buter, what are you hearing about the possibility that the Coalition is lanning to announce income tax cuts.

Speaker 12

Well, the election hasn't been called yet and we're not going to be pressured into making announcements just because the Labor Government wants to jump up and down or the ABC wants to jump up and down. But Australians are being slugged considerably more in income tax. And you know, you can argue whatever you like, and we all know everything's gone up. We know standard of livings have gone down, we know all of the cost pressures that Australian families

are experiencing. But the other figure that people need to understand. When the Coalition left government, the percentage of their income that most Australians were paying in tax was around twenty three percent. It is now about to tip into twenty seven percent under this government. So even while they sprout, everyone got a tax cut under this government, the majority of Australians. The average amount of tax being paid by Australians has increased by four percent under this government's watch.

And I can tell you the one thing that coalition government will do without it making any sort of big announcement is cut some of the wasteful spending that we are consistently seeing from this government that is leading to these cost of living and.

Speaker 2

I'm speaking to just Enterprice about that a bit later in the show. Now, you remember at the last election, Albnezi made a big song and dance about having an anti corruption watchdog, Well, what is.

Speaker 1

It actually done in the past three years?

Speaker 12

Same as your two hundred and seventy fivevial reduction.

Speaker 2

There is serially in reports today that there are even calls to replace the Commissioner, Paul Brereton. Joe.

Speaker 1

This has been operating for you know, yeah, it hasn't.

Speaker 13

I always thought this was a really stupid idea and there was always going to tell kind of administrative wide elephant there is. There has not been any real wholesale evidence of endemic corruption at a federal level, and people said, oh, that's because we haven't had a watch dog to exit.

Speaker 1

It's so different from SATs.

Speaker 13

The opportunities just don't exist. I'm sure they don't be in and up to their next.

Speaker 1

In the wrong level of.

Speaker 2

There's plenty of corrupt conduct going on. I say that as a journalist, but we haven't heard.

Speaker 13

The sort of the sort of correct. It's not just they're all squeaky clean and moral cure. What's obviously everyone is on the labor side. The others I can't speak for, but.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that always works very well out for you, Joe Hey, come on the right.

Speaker 12

But the way they've kept me, the opportunities.

Speaker 13

For corruption are much much, much greater in state and local government than they are in federal government. It's just harder to be corrupt in the federal system because you have to do things like, you know, giving out giving out tenders to.

Speaker 1

You for curemens.

Speaker 2

The fact that the agency hasn't had many corruption findings doesn't mean the corruption's not happening. It means they've been ineffective or a truthless tiger. There is one hundred percent.

Speaker 12

Well, we saw a two point four or two point three million dollar payment made to Britney Higgins in warp Speed.

Speaker 1

Saying that was referred.

Speaker 12

But that's been referred and there's been nothing done say that.

Speaker 13

Okay, you could say that's inappropriate, or it's excessive, or there wasn't enough you know, transparency or due diligence. But is anyone seriously saying that, you know, the Attorney General took a kick back to hand out that money. Of course not.

Speaker 12

But the political pain is creating a whole.

Speaker 1

Lot of problem.

Speaker 13

But that is the sort of stuff that the state corruption watch dogs look into. People taking money in exchange for political decisions, that is the definition of it. And there is just no real evidence that there's any kind of widespread there. There might be a decisions you disagree with, and there might be people.

Speaker 2

It's again, it's more that we haven't seen them take any action. It's not the fact that that behavior isn't there in the first place.

Speaker 1

It's just not the case.

Speaker 13

But anyway, it's hard to know in what way it could be.

Speaker 2

All right, Joe Hildebrand Holly Hughes A. Right, let's return to our top story now, the bombshell findings around the trove of Andy Semitic slurs by the alleged caravan Terra plot mastermind. And let's bring in Executive Council of Australian Jury co CEO Alex Riftin.

Speaker 1

Thanks so much for joining us once again.

Speaker 2

Look, what's your reaction to the fact that police came out a week ago and said anti Semitism wasn't a motivating factor and now we see all this evidence in the Australian Well, it.

Speaker 14

Was really disappointing, Shrry because the police, we know, want to keep us safe. We know they've devoted immense resources and manpower to hunting these people, to solving the crimes. We know they want to keep the Jewish community in wider society at peace and harmony. We know this, and they did fantastic work in making arrests and investigating these five bombings and the Dural incident as well. But they seem to have undone that fine work with their communication.

And like you said at the outset, words matter and we have to understand that the revelations from these investigations were incredibly serious. We learned then, in addition to everything we faced over the past seventeen months, the docs and the vilification, the harassment, everything happening at schools and universities and the medical system, and support for terrorism and street abuse.

Speaker 9

On of all that, you now have.

Speaker 14

Hardened criminals hanging off lowly hoodlands to set fire to our buildings and cars and set out streets ablaze with reckless disregard for what happens. And it's a miracle that

no one was killed. But for some reason the police and announcing chose to completely downplay it, refer to it as a con job and a fake and all these sorts of things, and predictably that set off the whole stream of conspiracy theories about a masade hit and an inside job, and all those negative actors who for seventeen months have sought to downplay with deni anti Semitism were

given this immense gift. And why they chose to do that, why they chose to undermine their wonderful police work, is really beyond.

Speaker 2

I mean, do you think it's similar to the gas the Jews commentary when police again took something that was so vile on the steps of the opera house and said there was basically no issue because the words were kill the Jews, not gas the Jews.

Speaker 14

Well, you know, in contrast, I think the gas the Jews incident now looks trivial and like a mere peculiarity. Given the magnitude of this announcement and the words they used in this case, I think the implications have been far greater.

Speaker 9

With gas the Jews. Where's the Jews?

Speaker 14

I thought that was a dubious thing for the police to do, to effectively try to exculpate those who are chanting those words and bold us down in a dispute about whether it was where's the Jews or gas Jews, as though one was better than the other.

Speaker 9

That was peculiar.

Speaker 14

But this has really broken the momentum in terms of trying to actually fight anti Semitism and deliver solutions to the anti semitism crisis and a national security crisis. And as I mentioned, it's allowed negative actors who have tried to downplay this whole time to now galvanize and to try to dampen all the momentum and the enthusiasm for actually solving this problem.

Speaker 9

So it's really incredibly disappointing.

Speaker 2

And now there's a push to repeal hate speech laws in your South. I was parliament Alix, you and your organization have been calling for tougher laws for years, and in fact, your organization has had to take civil action because the current laws are so inadequate.

Speaker 14

That's right, and it didn't begin on October seven. For many years, we've seen on occasion extreme clerics and others trying to effectively revive medieval hatreds and bring fign conflicts to our streets, inciting their followers to menace the Jewish community and to commit acts of violence.

Speaker 9

And for a long time.

Speaker 14

We've advocated for stricter laws against incitement of this sort. It's not about speech, it's not about the exchange of ideas. We're talking about words that are intended to incite hatred and violence in our communities.

Speaker 9

That's something extremely serious.

Speaker 14

And after October seven, we of course saw a whole series of clerics again glorifying the Hamas attacks, encouraging the followers to do likewise, speaking specifically of Jews in the most violent hatred terms imaginable, and there's no real remedy criminally, and so my organization was forced to be reaction under secuity in SEID the Racial Discrimination Act, which really for the sources of grave incidents that we're seeing is not the adequate remedy.

Speaker 9

And these laws.

Speaker 14

Again, it's a byproduct of the language used by the police in discounting antisymptism as a motive, because now we're seeing these attacks on the Premier of New South Wales, he's being accused of rushing through these laws as a knee jerk reaction to duel, when in fact these laws have been brewing for many, many years and are badly needed.

Speaker 1

Indeed they are now.

Speaker 2

Alex, I want to ask you about the outcomes from our anti Semitism summit a few weeks ago.

Speaker 1

Now now you.

Speaker 2

Wrote to Peter Dutton, he's publicly said that he would commit to every single one of the action points that do have that fall under federal remit. Now you've also written to the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi. Have you heard back yet about whether he'll implement the action plan?

Speaker 14

Not as if yet and we eagerly wait that response because, particularly in light of what's happened in the last week or so, with the diminishing of antisemitism as a priority issue, I think it's incumbent on the Prime Minister to respond to those fifteen points, which are all reasonable, which deal with both the short term and the long term issues that give rise to antisemitism, which will restore societal harmony

to our great country. And we need the premise to take a position on this and to show whether the fight against antisemitism can be something that unifies the major parties and unify a society or whether there's a clear difference between the two major parties and how they view antisemitism and how they seek to combat.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Well, hopefully we do get an answer from the Prime Minister because, as you said, that action point is still desperately needed despite the current attempts to downplay this whole crisis. Alex, thank you so much once again for your strong advocacy. Now after the break, a million dollars in taxpayer funds spent on decolonizing breastfeeding Australia's next doge potentially if they win the election, just into Nampijibber Price would join me

on the show. Plus a zealous climate campaigner defends his fancy private jet purpose. The hypocrisy is shocking. Find out who this is. After the break, welcome back, all right. Just Enterprise will be on the show shortly to talk about the Albanezi government spending taxpayer funds on projects like decolonizing breastfeeding. But first, climate crusader Mike cannon Brooks has defended his purchase of a private jet, emit a pretty

comprehensive backdrop of green energy evangelism. He's conceded he's feeling a deep internal conflict.

Speaker 1

That must be a tough struggle for him.

Speaker 2

But he said it was so he can run a global business from Australia and still be a constantly present dad. Now, Barnaby Joyce has gone on air calling him a total and other hypocrite. Let's bring now our panel to see what they think. Headline Advisory Director Andrew Carswell and GXO Strategies Director Camerine Milner. Welcome to you both. So Andrew, what is this? Carbon emissions are bad Unless it means you can be a good dad, then don't worry about the environment.

Speaker 8

Oh look, char if.

Speaker 15

We're talking about, you know, the most amusing story of the year so far, and this one's going to be top three. I mean, this is a billionaire that's effectively gone out in the street wearing sackcloth and pouring ashes on his head and asking forgiveness for buying a private jet. I mean have you ever seen someone so sad about buying a seventy million dollar private jet. It's got to

be the self flagellation of the century. But the thing I love about this most is his own words are the very people that he's been fighting against for years on climate action. And I don't know if I owned a coal minor, if I owned a gas field, I would be writing down those very words and putting them on my wall as proof the gospel according to Big Mike. And some of the phrases are just amazing. Here's one here is striking. The balance between pragmatism and ambition is hard.

Here here, well done, thanks for getting there. And what about this? And we know climate isn't a zero sum game. The truth will set you free.

Speaker 1

Indeed, Andrew.

Speaker 2

But Cameron, I mean, I don't know the exact figures, so I could be wrong here, but you'd imagine that, you know, one return trip from here to the US would probably be the equivalent climate admissions that an average family in western Sydney would spend.

Speaker 1

In a whole year.

Speaker 2

And yet he lectures everyone else about you know, effectively paying more.

Speaker 16

Don't you love hypocrisy?

Speaker 9

Writ Large?

Speaker 16

I mean when you have a proselytizing climate change bid in air, preaching to working class people. We've got to drop everything off like this and you know, and return to sackcloths. But it's okay for his Boeing private jet that he agonizes agonizes over Sharik. Which one thing I love though is he has a green stripe down the side of it. Yet you've got a green stripe pain down side of it, obviously, because that obviously makes it better that he's jetting around the world in this thing. Now, look,

this is just our hypocrisy rit large. He's been caught out for it and his excuses simply are good enough.

Speaker 2

No, indeed completely agree and seriously being a good doubt, come on, get off.

Speaker 1

You can be a good dub.

Speaker 2

Without the project the children, Yes, exactly. Now, for the second week in a row, Malcolm Turbull has intervened in the political debate. Today he criticized Orcus. You've probably heard the comments by now. He's also condemned Peter Dutton for refusing to support Albanezi and offering up a peacekeeping force.

Speaker 1

Our troops in Ukraine.

Speaker 2

Now, Andrew Turnbull just can't stay away and we're probably going to see more of him in the when the election campaign kicks off, because the last thing Turnbull once is Dutton his enemy becoming prime minister.

Speaker 15

Yeah, I mean, this man is a dick to seeing his own name in newspapers and on TV. He's addicted to giving deep and moaningful interviews on ABC radio and TV. We've got to remember, as you said, he views Peter Dutton with enormous suspicion and holds him ultimately responsible for his downfall as Prime minister. It was Peter Dutton that initially made the moves against him exactly, so he sees

this as an opportunity to get his revenge. This is a man that has built his entire career on the back of revenge, on the back of getting even He's done that throughout his entire political life, but also his business career as well. It is it's his motors operandi. And you know he's coming to get Peter Dutton in this campaign.

Speaker 2

And when we at the time just reported the news that Dutton was considering a leadership challenge against Turnbull, all of Channel nine and Turnbull and everyone blamed NewsCorp just for reporting the story. Now, ca we've seen Turnbull's intervention. But what about your old boss, Bill Shorten, Because here came out on Friday with some comments, some advice maybe for alban easy about trade tariffs. So are we going to see more of Bill Shorton as well in this election campaign?

Speaker 3

Look?

Speaker 16

I think we are, and I think Bill's got a very big role. Obviously it's a vice chance for a significant university and it's up to him to make public comment. But let's make the difference here. I mean, Malcolm Turble is always about Malcolm. Bill's point was that tariffs have to be on the table, and that's what Keis Starmer said, It's what every other Western nation has said. And response to Trump only weak elbow only week Albo has said, oh no I won't touch tariff's. I won't touch it.

They're not even on the table now, Donald, you know, please come and see me. I mean, the reality of what Bill said was tariff should be on the table. The difference though is that Malcolm is only ever about Malcolm.

Speaker 1

Let's have a look at the new polling today.

Speaker 2

Freshwater polling shows the L and P head of Labor still on the two party preferred metric. That's fifty one to forty nine. It shows the Coalitions re vote slipped slightly. It's now thirty nine percent. Labour's is thirty one percent. Andrew, you worked with Scott Morrison when everyone thought he'd lose the twenty nineteen election.

Speaker 1

Do you think there's some similarities now? What do you think of Peter Dutton's prospects?

Speaker 15

Well, certainly, if there's an election this weekend, Shari, then you would see a Labor minority government, and probably a deep one at that. Look, clearly Labor has some momentum back.

Speaker 1

Finally.

Speaker 15

They spent the last three years trying to get momentum by all manner of different things, but they've actually got a bit momentum now. A little bit of that is from interest rate, a little bit of that is from the medicare policy they had, but most of it has come through a concerted effort to bring down Peter Dutton, whether that be through earned media hit jobs or a two million dollar paid advertising blitz against Peter Dutton. Peter

Dutton is all they want to talk about. They don't to talk about the economy because it's in the toilet. They don't want to talk about the budget necessarily because it's covered with red ink. All they've got to talk about is Petter Dutton. It's the first thing they think about when they wake up, it's the last thing they think about when they go to bed. All they want to talk about is peit of Dutton. The question is whether this is going to keep alarming people over the

long term. I think people naturally will get sick of it, particularly this far out from an election. If you keep going down this path of negativity, negativity, negativity, it's going to wear pretty thin.

Speaker 2

There's also the budget which we now are going to have. You know, the government at Albanezi certainly didn't want to have. He wasn't planning for it.

Speaker 1

Cameron.

Speaker 2

We heard the Treasurer to say, We heard the treasure today say that the impact from ext tropical cyclone Alfred it'll be around one point two billion dollar hit to the budget bottom line. So is this softening the ground for the budget position being worse than expected?

Speaker 16

Well, I think if you look at my EFA which Jim Chalmers brought down December, the numbers aren't going to get any better Shahi in March for the full budget. And it's certainly certainly the case that Alba want to avoid a full budget all costs. But I think it's

a real opportunity for Charmers to shine. I mean, Charmers is doing the work as treasurer to shape up the budget in a week's time, he'll deliver that and the shape and the big contest between Charmers, who I think is really on the money as a treasurer, and the flop and the flake that is Angus Taylor as the shadow treasurer will be the huge problem with his campaign. Every time Angers Taylor's out there with a new hairdoo, Jim Charms out there doing the real hard work as

a treasurer. So that's the difference, and I think that contrast will be something we'll see throughout the campaign, right through to the May election.

Speaker 1

What do you think about that?

Speaker 2

Andrew Carswell is at a fair characterization flake for Angus Taylor?

Speaker 15

No, it's not, and the Coalition will have more to say on their economic policies as a little ection draws closer. The thing about Jim though, he's got it. He's usually very good salesman, but he's got He's got a budget that is absolutely covered in reading to sell that there are no goodies in this budget.

Speaker 1

Beyond a little.

Speaker 15

Bit of help with energy bills, there's deficits to near eternity. There's record government spending which the public are becoming suspicious with. So it's really selling the unsellable. And yes he might be the best salersman of the government, but it's a very very tough sale heading into a campaign.

Speaker 2

All right, Andrew Carswell, Cameron Milner, great to see you as always for our political panel on a Monday now after the break law, students told they could fail exams if they're welcome to country is underwhelming, or if they refuse to acknowledge traditional owners, plus the absurd projects funded by your taxpayer dollars. Just into Namber jimper Price would joined me after this quick break.

Speaker 1

Welcome back or just into Namba. Jimper Price could potentially be the.

Speaker 2

Next Doze of Australia, our nation's answer to Elon Musk, and such a role is unfortunately needed. The Sunday Telly reports that your taxpayer dollars are finding over a million dollars on decolonizing breastfeeding nearly nine hundred thousand dollars on the mouth as an expression of racial injustice. Over three hundred grand on subverting souvenir teatowers and eighteen thousand dollars on a drag experiment. We're joining us now to discuss

this shadow Indigenous Australians. Minister just into Navagin for price, just into thank you very much for your time. What even is decolonizing breastfeeding?

Speaker 1

It just is so absurd.

Speaker 5

Look, it is absolutely absurd.

Speaker 6

And again it goes back to this concept that somehow First Nations people, Indigenous Australians have to be treated differently to the rest of the country and for some reason the concept of breastfeeding has been colonized and needs to be decolonized. I mean, I don't know why we're not supporting programs that take an approach to support mothers in general in terms of how to take care of their children with breastfeeding and those sorts of issues and concerns.

But these grants were found by the Menzies Research Center.

Speaker 5

They've been doing a rafter work. They're about twenty one grants.

Speaker 6

That they have found that have been identified and sub got to my attention and to the Coalition's attention. The Prime Minister needs to explain why he thinks these grants are a valuable spend of tax payers money because where I'm sitting, I'm just scratching my head at the moment.

Speaker 2

I know the examples of waste are so absurd, and yet we have seen Peter Dutton and you as well face criticism when you've announced your plans to look at the waste and to actually cut the public service. Gise, I just want to ask you about this report in Today's Australian that revealed law students at Macquarie University Law School may fail an exam if they perform an underwhelm acknowledgment of country or even refuse to acknowledge the traditional aborage or owners at all.

Speaker 1

What's your view of this.

Speaker 5

It's quite disgraceful.

Speaker 6

I think you know, the whole concept of welcome to country is a reinvention of culture if you like the fact that it is being imposed upon university students in their educational institutions, especially when it's being implanted into courses that actually don't have anything to do with indigenous culture, history or anything like that.

Speaker 5

This is pure indoctrination. It's not education. It's something that we as a coalition have a plan to ensure does not go ahead. And I know that my wonderful colleagues Sarah Henderson is doing a rafter work in this space.

Speaker 6

As we know when we've been looking at anti semitism also within universities, that we can't continue to push these ideals onto.

Speaker 5

Students, and they should be there if they're right to have an education and not be indoctrinated.

Speaker 2

I hear so many examples of the parents of university students telling me that their kids know that they have to give what is seen as the right answer when it comes to taking a particular position in a subject essay, no matter what the topic, because otherwise they'll get marked.

Speaker 1

Down for it.

Speaker 2

And at the end of the day, the students are there to get good marks, to succeed and get a job. So, you know, the idea that university is are stifling freedom of thought is very disturbing.

Speaker 1

You just mentioned Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 6

Sorry, I was just going to say, I mean, I'm also hearing from students as well.

Speaker 5

I think this is really just the tip of the iceberg, and we will.

Speaker 6

Probably uncover a lot more than just this in terms of what universities are subjecting students to exactly.

Speaker 1

That's why we do need a oral commission into it today.

Speaker 2

Peter Dutton committed thirty five million dollars if he wins the election to restore the adasses Or Synagogue in Melbourne, which was firebomb last year.

Speaker 1

Here he was today.

Speaker 17

Coalition government would provide funding of up to thirty five million dollars to provide support to build back. As James pointed out before, this synagogue, this center, and this wonderful contributor to life here in the local community.

Speaker 8

We want to bring it back to life.

Speaker 1

Jisinda.

Speaker 2

I was actually quite shocked in the past few months to see that the Albertezy government hasn't made an equivalent promise.

Speaker 6

No, well, actually I'm not terribly shocked in terms of this government's actions.

Speaker 5

Albanesi has failed at a number.

Speaker 6

Of levels to address anti Semitism in our country. You know, Peter Dutton came out when we saw what was happening on October seven and the horrible things that occurred on the Opera House, and ever since Peter Dutton has on a line clearly in the sand that we do not accept anti Semitism, terrorism and that level of violence within our country.

Speaker 5

The Prime Minister. It is shameful that the Prime Minister has failed to.

Speaker 6

Even make any kind of commitment towards restoring the synagogue or any other commitment toward tackling anti Semitism with any real depth or a way that's going to be to ensure that our Jewish community feels like they can be safe in Australia in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2

Well, I don't have the exact figures at hand, but I think he's committed something like two hundred thousand dollars, but nowhere near in the scale of thirty five million that died in did today just send to really appreciate your time as.

Speaker 1

Always, Thank you so much.

Speaker 2

All Right, Despite overwhelmingly bad media coverage, Donald Trump hits his highest approval rating ever.

Speaker 1

I'll talk about that with Kosher Gada.

Speaker 2

Next, all right, and to finish up, let's have a look at the US and Skynese contributed Koshagada joins me. Now, Kosha, two hundred and fifty accused migrant gang members have been deported to Ol Salvador.

Speaker 1

But this could be illegal.

Speaker 2

It is illegal, that's in contravention of the federal judges ruling against Trump on this.

Speaker 1

Will there be any ramifications.

Speaker 18

You know, legally, Shari, It's hard to see that there will be, because what the Trump team's argument is, in terms of the narrow legal question that the judge's ruling was talking about, is jurisdictional. The executive order that the Trump team based this on is basing it on some statue from the eighteenth century that the judge is challenging

whether or not that applies here. And their argument is, by the time that order came down, the planes were already either mid air in international airspace and so the judge did not have jurisdiction on them, or it had landed in El Salvador. So I think that's going to work its way up to an appeals court, but it's kind of a moot point because those folks are not American citizens. They're already out of the country. More broadly, there's a constitutional issue that has been brewing for quite

some time, and this is another example on that. Where do individual judges who have single jurisdictions and the different parts of the country have the authority to keep issuing these nationwide injunctions against the head of the executive branch, which is the president. And I think that thing it's we're not at a constitutional crisis yet, but it's headed in that direction. The more and more of these happen,

And the last point quickly I'd make is the ramifications. Politically, I think it hurts the Democrats because this issue is one of the few in a divided country that's an eighty twenty issue where eighty percent of the electorate wants violent criminal gang members that are in the country illegally out and there's videos showing them going out there and they're like fully tattooed and not sympathetic figures at all.

I think them trying to fight to say, turn that plane around, bring them back is not going to play well politically for the Democrats.

Speaker 2

If only we could deport violent criminals here as well. Coach should tell us about this polling, because most of the media cover each that we see about Trump is pretty negative, but we hear that he has had his highest approval writing ever, movod is saying the US is on the right track than any time in the past twenty years.

Speaker 1

Tell us about this poll.

Speaker 18

Yeah, so that poll about just the country overall is headed in the right direction wrong direction is one of the seminal polls in US politics. I think it's been measured since nineteen thirty six or something like that, and that's always like a great heartbeat of just where the country stands, even above and beyond the president. And these

are really remarkable numbers. I think the last time it was this high, I was in two thousand and four, and in just September, just a few months ago, it was only twenty seven percent of the country thought that it was on the right track versus now forty four percent or higher depending on different polls, So that's huge.

I also think Trump's personal best is interesting too, So his own approval ratings, while under fifty percent, are the highest they've ever been, and that, really, I think is a fascinating epilogue to the comeback story that we've been reporting about for the better part of last year and where he was down in the doldrums after January sixth to winning and now you're having that level of approval

is really quite stunning. It won't last forever. He will falter, I'm sure along the way, but so far, so good for just not even two months in.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's pretty pretty extraordinary. And I think a lot of that will hinge on where Russia Ukraine ends up, because he said he was going to solve this crisis. Let's see, all right, Koshagada, appreciate your time and thanks everyone for your company tonight. I'll see you tomorrow at eight, looking forward to it.

Speaker 1

And here's Paul in the man Cave.

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