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Good Evening. Well, I've got exclusive footage tonight of two very high profile Australians catching up with Donald Trump at Mara Lago. The video was taken inside the room and I'm going to show you that in a moment, But first, can I just say welcome back everyone. I hope you've all had a good break. I hope you had the chance to relax and have a breather. I had a lovely few weeks with the family and the kids up the coast. And it's our first show back tonight for
the year. It is packed and it's going to be a massive year. There's already so much going on, so much to talk about. We're coming up on the show tonight. As I said, exclusive footage from inside Mary Lago of top Australians meeting with Trump and Millennia. I'll give you a hint. It's not Alban Easy or Penny Wong. Also tonight we crossed to la where Washington correspondent Annalise Nilsen
will give us the latest on the devastating fires. Albaneze's offensive claim that he's done all he could on the antisemitism crisis I'll get Julian Lisa's response to that, plus his push for National Cabinet to be convened to deal with this issue. It's an idea the Prime Minister has already dismissed, as he claims he's not responsible for the racism crisis. Plus have young girls been betrayed for the sake of political correctness. I've discussed with Spiked onlines Brendan O'Neill.
But let's start with the Los Angeles fires. Twenty four lives lost, more than ten thousand homes destroyed, and over one hundred thousand people evacuated, Beautiful suburbs reduced to rubble and ash, the face of La completely changed, perhaps permanently. And after a week, the catastrophe is still ongoing. Three major fires still raging by the Santa Anna wins, and you can see here's where the active blazers are ongoing. And now the districts of bel Air and Brentwood are
facing fire warnings that they could be under threat. And this may very well be the worst natural disaster in American history. And these fires weren't a shock. The Santa Anna winds have fueled wide files throughout southern California's history. LA's environmental factors and the fire risk are well known, so those running the state should have been prepared, but they weren't. Their hopeless response unforgivable. They should have done everything in their power to mitigate the fire risk and
reduce the fuel. Instead, they prioritized ideology and virtue signaling. And now there's uproar quite rightly about why tiny fish and diversity quotas were more important than saving homes and saving lives. Or in a nutshell, here's what's gone wrong. Fire hydrants had no water in them, a major reservoir was left empty and unable to be used. No new
dams were built despite funding approval ten years ago. The city's fire budget was cut by seventeen million dollars US that is last year, and firefighting equipment was sent off shore. And as for the leadership for La, Mayor Karen Bass knew there was a high fire risk, but shrugged her shoulders and went on a free trip to Ghana. And when she was pressed on this by a reporter, here was her incredible reaction or non reaction.
Do you owe citizens and apology for being absent while their homes were burning? Do you regret coming the fire department budget for millions of dollars. Madam, there have you nothing to say today? Have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today?
And then the city's fire budget was cut by seventeen million US last year. And that's according to the Los Angeles Fire Chief Kristin Crowley, who said this impacted on wildfire preparation, but her own handling wasn't so great either. According to the Wall Street Journal, only five percent of her department's budget was spent on fire prevention. Five percent. And Crowley has called a diversity, inclusion and equity a
top priority. And then there's Governor Gavin Newsoon. He's been so distracted by his obsession with Trump that he dropped the ball on protecting his own people. In recent months, he's spoken about Trump proof in California, But what about fire I approof in California?
His call per retribution, revenge. He's pretty clear we responded to his assault on California where he tried to unwind our progress, and so we're doing now with a special session. He is not waiting to react to that. We're preparing for that in a much a more sober way.
To think Newsome wanted to be president. Surely he's finished After this, voters are furious and have turned against him, and news told one upset voter that he was literally on the phone to the president, but it turned out he actually wasn't literally on the phone to the president at all.
Was my daughter's school, governor, Please tell me what you're going to.
Do, But I'm not going to hurt of my promise.
I'm literally talking to the president right now to specifically answer the question of what we can do for you and your daughter?
Can I hear it?
Can I hear your call?
Because I don't believe it? I'm sorry, can I There's literally I've tried five times. That's why I'm walking around to me I was the president not taking your call because it's not going through.
Well, that's the problem with these officials. Their ideological political obsessions are more important to them than fulfilling basic obligations to keep people and their homes safe. One of the biggest issues in this whole saga has been the lack of water. The water restrictions or because of the laws around protecting a tiny fish called smelt. Trump has spoken about this on his social media accounts and in press conferences.
It's very sad because I've been trying to get Gavin Lissen to allow water to cover.
You have tremendous footer.
They send it out to the facility because they're trying.
To protect their tiny little fish.
Which is in other areas. By the way, it's called the smeller.
And for the sake of the smell, they have no water. They have no water in the fire hydrants. Well what's Governor Newsom's response to all of this. Well, he's announced an independent inquiry, but he also claims there's misinformation, and he's spoken about cheap political shots.
Reservoirs are completely full. Of the state reservoirs here in southern California, that missing disinformation. I don't think advantages or aids any of us responding to Donald Trump's insults, we would spend another month. I'm very familiar with them.
Yeah, but it wasn't misinformation. The reservoir wasn't full. That one reservoir that serves the Palace aids was not full.
And that's exactly what triggered my desire to get the investigation to understand what was happening with that local reservoir that was not a state system reservoir which the President elect was referring to as it relates to the Delta and somehow connecting the Delta smelt to this fire, which is inexcusable because it's inaccurate, also incomprehensible to anyone that understands policy in the state.
Well, there's no question that one hundred and seventeen million gallon reservoir was offline, was out of commission. Fire hydrants simply have had no water in them, and this has been widely reported. And the Wall Street Journal also reported that the smelt fish water protections led to billions of gallons of water being flushed out to the Pacific Ocean each year, along with chronic water shortages. The Wall Street Journal reports and I quote that mister Newsom opposed mister
Trump's first term efforts to ease the fish protections. They write, you can lead California progressives to water, but you can't make them think. But when you can't deal with questions about why fire hydrants are empty, why a reservoir was empty, why there isn't enough water supply, well, of course, just
blame misinformation. And the left media is upset that Facebook and x won't help them censor the shocking truth now that Mark Zuckerberg is on the same page as Elon Musk in ending the so called fact checking, that's really censorship in disguise. California's mismanagement is not a surprise, and it's not isolated to the area of fire protection. It extends to drugs, crime, homelessness, petty theft. And there's a
sensational New York Post editorial about this. It says, with a democratic governor, democratic mayors, democratic city councils, in a democratic justice system, the progressives have darkened the land of perpetual sunshine. This week's devastating wildfires are the pinnacle of democratic incompetence. Environmentalists and politicians refuse to clear the underbrush that fueled the flames. A reservoir in Pacific Palisades with shockingly bosed for repair. This is a reckoning. The voters
must demand total change. Democrats have enjoyed one party rule in California for too long, and there is no one else to blame for what has happened. California is not paradise lost. California is paradise squandered. The people must take it back. It's an excellent editorial. I recommend you read it. But La, that we know is home to Hollywood's sunshine, Wealth, an opportunity, Well, it's now the global face of woke mismanagement. It's the extreme example of putting ideology above common sense.
But the biggest and saddest question now is how does La rebuild from this? The ten thousand families who've lost everything they own, where do they go now? Where do they live? How do they recover? So many don't have insurance, and that's another story, but it's incomprehensible to think how much has been destroyed and how many homes have been lost.
The extent of the destruction is the outcome of extreme incompetence of Californian Democrats, whose shocking decisions unquestionably exacerbated the fires. And they've been exposed. But you have to ask at what price. I'm going to come back to that a bit later. We'll cross to Annalie Nilsen in Washington, but let's turn to Donald Trump.
Now.
His inauguration is a week today, and already there are some Aussies who are clearly in the new president's orbit, and Penny Wang and Alban Easy are not among them. Instead, Australian businessman Anthony Pratt was invited to Trump's exclusive New Year's Eve celebration at Marra Lago, along with former Prime Minister Scott Morrison and his lovely wife Jenny. I've got exclusive footage that was sent to me by someone in the room of both Anthony Pratt and Morrison chatting with
Trump and Millenia. Here it is. The footage goes for about a minute. We're going to keep showing it to you now as I chat. So this video is from inside Donald Trump's New Year's Eve party at Mari Lago, where the President elect held court. He had plenty of time with both Anthony Pratt and Scott Morrison. It's understood Millania and Jenny got on very well. They were happy to be reacquainted since the last time they met when
Morrison was Prime Minister. As you can see as you're watching, it's quite an expressive conversation and Trump actually at one point taps Pratt's shoulder in a warm way. Trump's son don Ja, was just behind them. You can see that at some point in the footage, and I'm told that Anthony Pratt spoke to Trump about business and said he'd invest billions of dollars under Trump's leadership, and a source
tells me Trump was very gracious. The song hot Stuff by Donna Summer was playing while they chatted, and YMCA of course got a crack two, but instead of the words young man, everyone in the room sang Trump. Matn Trump gave a speech at the start of the evening. It was quite an extravagant affair, and Lara Trump also sang a song, but it was quite a relaxed evening.
Anthony Pratt donated fifteen million dollars US to support President Trump in the final days of his election campaign, and this included fourteen million to the Make America Great against super pac another one point one million to Trump's inaugural funt so. This donation put Anthony Pratt among the top donors to Trump's campaign, alongside Elon Musk, Timothy Mellon, Miriam Addison,
and Linda McMahon. Pratt is now living in America. He's been granted a visa for permanent US residency and he'll be more than welcome there because he's one of the largest Australian employers of Americans. He's seventy factories in the US,
employee around twelve thousand people. And Scott Morrison is also spending more and more time in the US, particularly with his company, American Global Strategies, where he's the non executive vice chairman, but he hasn't moved there, despite some media reports. At Trump's inauguration next week, it'll be Penny Wong representing
the Albanezy government. Richard Miles should have gone because in defense circles he is better regarded in America and he's the only one that Republicans have any sort of good word to say about. The rest of the Albanezy government will struggle under the Trump administration. They were already struggling with the Biden administration because Alban Easy and Penny Wog
had split with the US At the United Nations. Albo has been aligning himself with the outgoing Justin Trudeau, who's well and truly on the outer or with Trump and with Canadians. Alban Easy hasn't been asked to come to the US to meet with Trump, and this will all be an election issue in the next few months. It's just one of many areas where the prime minister is failing Okay, let's bring in now Sky News host Caleb Bond and Joe hilde Brand. Great to see you, welcome back.
Couldn't be better than gentlemen. Look at Caleb, I want to start with with that. You know, Penny Wog is going to be the one who attends alongside Kevin right the Trump inauguration, Yet she's been angery the Biden administration and by the way, not just on Israel, but also on just how chummy they all are with China. The US isn't comfortable with that. I mean, it just shows how difficult it's going to be for alban Easy.
And Kevin rad for heaven say, we don't need to go to his record of what he said about Donald Trump, which he promptly scrubbed, of course, from Twitter once Trump was re elected. I mean, we're hardly sending our best, are we. Now. You're probably right that Marles ought to go, but the Prime Minister ought to be there. The fact
he was not invited is quiet telling. But really we should be putting forward even though there's an election campaign coming and obviously both Darton and Albanezi very much in election mode at the moment, but we are talking about the biggest leader in the world, the leader of the free world, the President of the United States being inaugurated. Why would our prime minister not be bashing down the door to get to that event, even if it doesn't achieve a great deal. Apart from being there, it's an
opportunity to talk to other world leaders. We know he's spend a lot of time overseas going and meeting with world leaders at the beginning of his prime ministership. He doesn't seem to be so keen to do it now, perhaps because yeah, indeed, but perhaps because he's more worried about what's going on at home and he thinks he needs to be on TV screen's here more than he does talking to world leaders because he's worried about his job.
Yeah, and we'll get to election timing in a moment, especially with you joke, because I'm sure you've got some insights on that. But when do you think of that footage, you know, it shows you just how close Because not everyone at that New Year's Eve party had access to Donald Trump. It was a roped off area. Yet they spent quite a lot of time speaking with Scott Morrison and Anthony Pratt, and yet nothing with Kevin Rudd, nothing with Penny Wong. It's embarrassing.
I think the problem is and it's a problem that is even more broad than just those individuals. But there has been I think a certain smugness among left wing elites, and you know, left of the left elites, the upper middle class left, as I'm constantly lamenting about where they were just dismissive of Trump, all embracing new sort of agenda and that this is progressing politics and it's inevitable. And we've seen that not just on dismissing Trump but
dismissing Australia Day. There was a really interesting poll in the Telly today that shows support for Australia Day is actually growing while it Dali himself no less said that, you know, the midnight hour of wokeness is upon us and that wokers in its death rise. A few of us have been saying that, but again it's certain. I think it actually genuinely seems to be the case. And I know this from people I've spoken to in the New South Wales Labor Party and from what has happened
in the US. But all these absolutely not no, no, no, but people, but people would be coming out like people in the Labor Party. Again, not to reveal any confidences, but people in the Labor Party have been coming out and saying, oh, we all think this is crazy too, but we thought we were the only ones. We just thought it was inevitable and that these people would just
take over our party. And they've actually pushed back and they have won, and they have won convincingly with someone like Chris Min's in charge, where you know, these people are proud of fighting.
Trots Albo, whether he knows it or not, achieved that by losing the voice. The voice was the vanguard for people to start standing up with these saying actually, we don't like work anymore. So, whether he knew it or not, that was the greatest thing, all.
These assumptions that this is eving evident, that's going to happen, that Donald Trump's an idiot and he's crazy and he's a madman and he's a loser and Trump is over, you know.
I mean they were also happy to say that publicly.
That's right, and now suddenly they need his that's right. And now suddenly they need Trump's favor And none of them would even have his phone number, you know, none of them would even know how to get in Gonet with him. So I think it is just a very very salient lesson in smugness and thinking that you are on the right side of history. Sometimes history has a way of surprise.
And it's why, as I reported late last year, Kevin Right has been trying to draft in Scott Morrison to help him do his job that he clearly isn't going to be able to do now. Well, as we've been talking about, the federal election will be held in the next few months and already it's turning a bit heated. Peter Dutton and Alban Easy trading barbs after the Coalition's unofficial campaign launched yesterday.
Have a look, Coalition a negative about absolutely everything. You know, I haven't seen any specifics, but Peter Dutton will continue as he did yesterday to look for areas of division.
Australians have endured one of the most incompetent governments in our nation's history.
Well, Caleb, you know Albanezey claiming Dutton's trying to create fear and division. We are feeling fear. It's Alban Easy who's created it. It is the most ridiculous comment i've ever heard from the Prime minister. He has created the fear, not Peter Dutton in opposition.
What division is he talking about? I mean, look, the Prime Minister may well want to acquit himself with the word opposition. The first few letters of that suggest oppose. Which is the job of an opposition to oppose the things that a government is doing. So of course they're going to take a negative road. I mean, that's what an opposition does. They have to combat the things that a government is doing. What can he possibly mean by
a division? The only bloke whose own division is Anthony Albanize and his government with its absolute weakness, I mean, on his watch, with the help of some state premiers, you have had social discord all across the country because no one had the leadership to stand up, sayang, in a minute, let's take a step back here. We as a country don't tolerate this kind of behavior in Australia. That's how we've ended up with division caused by his government,
not by Dutton. And I mean we say you look at yesterday the Victorian Trades Hall, who I know are not your mates, Joe, even though you are a great made of the Labor Party, rocked up out the front of Dutton's campaign launch essentially with that three eyed fish, a blow up version of the three eyed fish, thinking that that's somehow going to win Labor another election by fighting on nuclear energy, by saying, well, all the fish are going to have three eyes. That is what Labor
is doing right now. They think that's going to win him an election. They've got another thing, so so stupid.
And again remember there are a couple of MPs from the left, including at least one from Victoria, who were posting memes of the three eyefish on social media and probably got Todd shut it down, Take it down, delete it you look like an idiot. You are actually hurting the callers because it makes the Labour Party look like
the unscientific blood heites, not the oppelaision. It was also the Victorian Labor Party that posted that oh so funny social media meme I'm Peter Darton and his wife and his wife seeming to refer to him as a monster again and Albanez he has to get on the phone and clean up their mess because these are guys who like to take a massive dump in their own backyard and then when it all comes back to horn them
pitter dunsfault or it's all Rupert Murdock's fault. Now it's your fault being the dumbass trots that in New South Wales we're so proud to purge. So that is the first thing to say about Victorian branch of the ALP and what a massive liability it is going to be on Peter dund That is the reason why he launched his campaign in Victoria in jism, which is.
Probably there's going to be a really big focus from Peter Dutton on Victoria, absolutely no question. He wants to win a lot of seats there and for good reason. There's not much to win in Queensland. Coalition has a lot, so it's going to be New South Wales and Victoria. Joe very quickly before you go, what are you hearing about when the election will be called?
I think the fact that Anthony Albanezi did not go to is not going to Trump's inauguration makes it look like it'll bit sooner rather than later. There would have been a whole bunch of back channels. So if he thought that if Anthony Albanez was going, he would have been invited. February it'll possibly call it in February. If there's a rape cut in February, which is looking increasedb more likely than it was. Apparently that is increasing, you can bet your bottom dollar he'll call in it. But
I don't think he will go much after March. I don't think he'll want Parliament to go back. I don't think he'll want to do it. I'd probably say.
March all right.
I'll hold you to that.
Joe, thank you very much.
We'll replay it one hundred times. If you'repe I'm shoking. We got around klebn. Great to see you. All right. Let's turn to this major scandal in the UK where politicians saw under pressure over the soft treatment of Pakistani Muslim men sexually abusing and raping thousands of white working class girls in towns across England. Now, one of the smartest commentators in the world, Brendan O'Neill, is going to
join me now to speak about these grooming gangs. He wrote in The Australian over the weekend, how political correctness is protecting Britain's grooming gangs. He said that report after report has found that local politicians and police forces were initially loath to investigate the gangs because they feared appearing racist. PC pushed out the truth and Brendan joins us. Now, Brendan O'Neil, great to see you again, first show of
twenty twenty five. Look, can you explain to all of us what has happened here and how is it the case that men who have raped or sexually abused women girls have been given soft treatment.
Yeah, it's a really shocking scandal. It's the worst scandal of the post war era in the UK, no question at all. Because what happened is that thousands of white working class girls were sexually assaulted and in some cases raped and killed by gangs of men who were mostly Pakistani Muslims. And we've known about this scandal for a long time in this country. And the worst thing about it, as you say, is that officialdom often turned a blind eye.
The police, social workers, local council officials. They often turned a blind eye because they didn't want to be seen as racist, they didn't want to be seen as Islamophobic. So this case really shows us how dangerous political correctness can be. You know, we tend to think of politicals as something funny and ridiculous and canceled culture and watching your p's and q's and using the right pronouns and so on. But in these kinds of situations it can actually be lethal.
And how is this playing out politically? Is the pressure here completely on Kiir Starmer? And is the opposition party you know, seizing on this or is Reform emerging like the strongest voice in this matter.
It's causing huge waves here in the UK, partly because of Elon Musk's tweets. He's really brought it back into the global headlines, but also because people in the UK feel that we've never had a real reckoning with this scandal. There's a lot of heat on Kirs Starmer.
You know.
The unbelievable thing is that Keir Starmer's government is currently thinking of bringing in an even tighter definition of the idea of Islamophobia. So here we have a scandal which in large part was driven by people's fear of being called Islamophobic, and yet Starmer's government wants to tighten up even further any criticism of Islam, any criticism of the Koran,
any criticism of Muslim practices. I think what this scandal really shows is how dangerous the idea of Islamophobia can be because this idea essentially acts like a straight jacket on public discussion. You're not allowed to say anything critical of Islam. You're not even allowed to criticize individual members of the Muslim community, which was the case in this scandal.
So the idea of Islamophobia actually is incredibly censorious. It prevents us from getting to grips with the problems in our society and it is a real, I think, bad thing for our communities that we aren't allowed to openly discuss the problems that we face. So Keir Starmer still doesn't recognize how important freedom of speech is to get into the bottom of this scandal.
Look, you just mentioned Elon Musk in that answer. In his intervention, so he's endorsed this figure that probably most viewers here wouldn't have heard of, Tommy Robinson. But doing so, he's also attacking Nigel Farage. He says there needs to be a new leader of reform. What do you think about his intervention and how Nigel Farage is doing.
You know, I think his intervention is it's a bit crazy, it's quite funny. He really has put the cat among the pigeons in British politics. So you know, it's fun to watch to see him sending out all these tweets and saying pretty zaany things about the government and talking about this scandal that he hadn't previously heard about. But I think he's wrong about Nigel Farage.
You know.
Farage is the leader of Reform. In our general election last year, Reform did incredibly well. They got millions of votes. I think they got around fourteen percent of the vote, which is incredible for a new insurgent party. They're getting lots of votes from working class voters who feel that they've been abandoned by labor, who feel that labor looks down at noses at them and treats them as white trash who don't know what they're talking about and are
all really stupid. That layer of the electorate is really sick and tired of being patronized, and they're turning to Farage as an alternative voice, and Farrage is very popular. Tommy Robinson, on the other hand, the figure you mentioned there, he's a very fringe figure. He is not taken seriously
by most normal people in this country. He's seen as a bit of a problem in fact, because he discusses things in a pretty cac handed way often, so I think Elon Musk has picked the wrong horse in this battle, and I think he needs to be a little bit better informed about British politics and about the role Nigel Ferrad has played in British politics over the past twenty years, and maybe.
He needs a bit careful because it's often seen like he's representing the US and Trump. Now I've given his proximity to the incoming president. Brandan O'Neil. We always love your commentary and your insights, so terrific to have you on the show again. Thank you. Now after the break, Albanese's pathetic response to the anti Semitism crisis, Well, why doesn't he have the guts to call a national cabinet? Liberal MP Julian Lisa, who's leading this campaign, will join
me live next. That's after this quick break, Welcome back. Well, as you may have seen, Anthony Albinizi has claimed in interviews that he's done all he can to battle this horror rise in anti Semitism, and it's a statement that should make every one of us angry because it's a shocking dereliction of duty. He's never taken racism against Jews seriously enough, and just days into twenty twenty five, this
is only getting worse. We've seen swastika is spray painted across the front of synagogues one in southern Sydney, an attempted arson attack at Newtown Synagogue, and recently we saw anti Semitic garbage graffitied on cars in Sydney's East. And there's so much that's happened over the past few weeks, four weeks that we've been off. It's more than I can even cover now. And isn't that devastating to say Alberanze's leadership on this has been inadequate to say the least.
While I despair, Julian Lisa says this is time for a national cabinet on the anti Sammitism crisis. He's absolutely right, and he's on set with me right now. Julian, great to see you again.
Thanks Cherry, good to be with you.
So before I want to hear more about your idea, I actually just want to show you Anthony Alberze's response to your suggestion have a look at this.
I've seen some of some of those comments from missus Lisa, I make this point that state and territory governments, again we have a federation in Australia, state and territory governments are responsible primarily for those issues. What we have established as Operation a Alite to make sure that the Australian Federal Police work cooperatively with state and territory governments.
Not his responsibility, Julian, it's the problem of the state.
Well, it's everyone's problem. Showing anti Semitism is a problem for everyone. And indeed, when we've seen these escalating attacks on synagogues and Jewish properties over recent days and months, I think the time for wringing our hands and apologizing that anti Semitism is a problem in Australia is over. This is a time for action. I want to see no one engage in these activities and the best way you can do that is to provide it a terrant, to ensure that if you're engaged in this activity, you
will do time, you will go to jail. And I think the federal government does have a responsibility. Firstly, they have a responsibility to convene the National Cabinet. Secondly, there are offenses through using a carriage service, a mobile phone, using apps to plan and organize these attacks. I think if anybody is engaged in any of these things, we should be using every power at our disposal, federal, state
and territory to ensure that these attacks don't happen. And I was delighted to see the Premier of Queensland say that if the Prime Minister convene National Cabinet to look at these issues, he would be there at the heartbeat. If a Jewish property, a synagogue of communal center, you should do time. Because this isn't paint on a building, as the Greens would like you to think. This is about saying to your fellow Australians, you're not welcome in
this country and you should be scared. And we've had enough of this over the last fourteen fifteen months. If you'd asked me fifteen months ago if we'd still be talking about anti Semitism now, I would have said, oh, there's no way. But this has got worse, not better, Shari, and that's why it's time to set a standard that if you attack Jewish property in this fashion, you will do time.
And that's the issue that we are seeing incidents almost every day now this year. It has been basically every single day, and it's very rare that you hear about someone being caught or someone going to prison. There do seem to be no consequences. I mean Alban Easy today he claimed that Peter Darton is creating fear. He's Alban Easy. He's creating fear because he's let this hatred emerge. He didn't deal with it quickly enough and he's still not
dealing with it properly. Look, you're so you've today made headlines in the Australian because you're also criticizing Penny Wang for basically trading away Western values. What's your criticism of her on this point?
Look, I think Australia has a proud tradition as a Western democracy, a liberal democracy. We stand with other like minded democracies, and I think Penniwong as the Foreign Minister, both on Israel and on Ukraine particularly, has not done enough and in fact has been selling out our values and selling out our traditions on Israeli. You remember, even as people were searching for bodies on the seventh of October, even as people were unaccounted for, she was telling Israel
to exercise restraint. Even before the seventh of October. She had that ham fisted change of the capital of Israel without consulting the Israelis, without consulting people who are interested in those issues here in Australia. She gave funding to UNRA, which subsequently, as you know, was involved in the October seven terrorist attacks, both as providing a headquarters for Hamas communication operations and also with its own employees engaged in
October seven's attacks. And then she's consistently voted against Israel at the United Nations and called for things like cease fires which would have seen the Hamas leadership and Hisboalal leadership. There, she's treated the Israeli ambassador worse than she treated the ambassador of China, despite the fact that there were occasions where Chinese troops fired flares at Australians.
And those military attacks Australia. That's exactly right, And they think they can fix it all by sending Mark dreyfirst Israel.
Well, this is just a gimmick just before the election, because I think the government realizes that fair minded people don't want to see what Australia has done to Israel happened to Israel because they see Israel as a country like Australia, a liberal democratic country that stands for human rights. And it's straordinary to see this. And Mark Drafisis is completely the wrong person to send there.
He's just the reason they're sending him is because he's Jewish. You're Jewish, I'm Jewish. We've actually been extremely strong on pushing back against his anti semitism.
Where has he been on this, Well, that's right, and I think the fact that he's gone, along with all the anti Israel positions of the government is deeply felt in the community. Not only that he is the person, more than any other cabinet minister who has the machinery of government to deal with social cohesion and anti Semitism, the Human Rights Commission, the Federal Police, and he.
Voted against your idea for a judicial inquiry.
He did repeatedly, repeatedly, And so you know, when the government says that they have done everything they can, it's just a lie. It's just like the lie they told the Jewish community before the last election that there'd be no difference in the policy in relation to the Jewish community and Israel between the Coalition and Labor. No greater lie has ever been told in Australian Politics show.
Julian Lisa, thank you so much for your strong commentary and your continued push for action on this. So need your strength and we're grateful for it. Thank you, Thank you, sh all. Right after the break, the data is showing Australians are starting to reject the change the Date movement and they're embracing Australia Day. I'll discuss this with my panel next. Okay, let's return now to the devastating fires in Los Angeles and we've been speaking about incompetence, but
have a look at this. The diversity head of the Fire Department, Christine Larson, has come under fire for these recently resurfaced comments. Is she strong enough to do this?
Or you couldn't carry my husband out of a fire.
Which my response is he got himself from the wrong place.
If I have to carryhim out.
Of a fire, oh god. Let's bring in to discuss Adnimedia's Lisa Godard on News dot COM's deputy editor Liz Burke. Lisa, Liz, great to see you. Look, Liz, this is serious mismanagement and you know that Cleiper just shows the wrong priorities of gender quotas and diversity quotas rather than actually protecting people and their homes from the risk of fire. Yeah.
I mean, there are some quotes from that clip that look pretty bad no matter what the context. But you know, this week especially, there's another quote there where she talks about when you want when you have someone to assist you in a fire, you want someone who looks like you. I've never heard of people's looks being raised, you know, in any sort of preferences when it comes to any kind of essential services, let alone emergency services. No one's
calling the fire department saying I'd need urgent help. Can you please send someone of a particular ethnicity or of a particular gender. But this, this clip was made, I think promoting the department's d I push they're trying to overcome some criticisms, some pretty serious discrimination lawsuits that they've faced over the past couple of decades. But really, I mean, I still want to give this woman the benefit of the doubt. In that clip, she also raises some points
that I think are quite valid. That says, you know, when you're a minority in an industry or in a workplace, you come under.
A more scrutiny. You're judged more harshly, and I think that's true.
So you know, I want to give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that someone who is in such a senior position deserves to be there and has proved that they deserve to be there. But yeah, there's kind of no real good way to spin those lines coming out now.
And it's not just that one clip, Lisa, but it's the entire strategy. I mean, I spoke about this at the start of the show. It's California mismanagement by Democrats who are obsessed with progressive politics. And you know, there wasn't the water supply because they were protecting fish. It just couldn't have been worsely managed. There's just was no fire prevention strategy, and we are now seeing as a result, tenth or more homes lost.
Yeah, you've had two of the major areas just completely obliterated. I spent years working in America, so I know those areas well. And it's astounding when you look at those pictures, like you would have Sharry over the break and just to see it was armageddon in those parts of California.
And I can tell you what Kamala Harris will be rethinking any plans she may have had to want to try and run in California after this, because I'm predicting there will be an enormous backlash against the Democrats and against this woke policy and Tip picking up at a point Liz made, Yes, I understand and I fully support that women should be out there and we should be
able to do whatever job we want to do. But the reality is, when you look at military, if you look at police, if you look at firefighting, there is this requirement to have the strength and the physical capability to actually go into a burning building, kick somebody up and carry them out, you know.
And I would like to think that if I had.
To call Triple O or I was in that situation, whoever was coming to my rescue had that physical ability to.
Do that one hundred percent. Now let's turn to this new pole from the Institute of Public Affairs in the Telegraph. It reveals that the anti Australia Day movement is losing support. Sixty nine percent of respondents say Australia Day should be celebrated on January twenty six. Liz, we're seeing that Peter dartin is campaigning on issues related to this, so there does seem to be this return to wanting to celebrate Australia. Yeah.
I walked into my local shops yesterday and it had had a green and gold makeover. There were you know, full size Australia flags hanging from the ceiling, bunting everywhere, green and gold as far as you can see, and it.
Did feel like a celebration.
I felt like this year there certainly seems to be less enthusiasm for the change the Date debate, and I know that tends to ramp up closer to Australia Day, but we're a fortnight out and I just don't see the appetite for it this year. I think most people are you know, pretty much over it. Most people do
want to celebrate Australia. They're proud to be Australian, and I guess the enthusiasm and the energy to debate where that date falls is probably you know, fallen away from the people who are really really passionate about it, many of whom you know would still be disappointed by the result of the Voice referendum, which a while ago now but still you know, seems quite fresh and also I think there's there's other problems going on at the moment.
People are living in a cost of living crisis. There's bigger international issues going on.
I think.
Yeah, I think the energy for that debate from those people who are in other years, you know, more eager to discuss it, has has fallen away a little bit.
Lisa. It's actually young Australians now, who you know previously might have wanted to change the date, but at least, according to this poll, are saying that January twenty six should be kept. What do you think about this?
Yeah, eighteen to twenty four year olds and I think the figure went from forty eight percent Chowry up to fifty two percent now want to celebrate Australia Day on the day that we all argue it should be celebrated on.
I agree with Liz.
You walk into the stores now and there is actually flags, there is Australia Day material there, which they should be. And I think Woolworth's probably played a really big role in this, because there was an enormous backlash when they said that's it, we aren't going to do it. And I think the average Aussie wants to actually not be shamed to go, well, I can't celebrate the fact that
I live in this great country. And from a corporate perspective, I can tell you a lot of boardrooms around this country agonized over whether we should be putting up social media posts celebrating Australia Day. Now, years ago, you would quite happily put up that cliche thole in the sand, it's Australia Day, we're all out for a barbecue, We're out with our mates. But then you had to really
stop and rethinking who am I going to offend? That was the question everybody is asking behind the scenes, and I think a.
Corporate Australia has been some of the worst perpetrators of this woke culture. All right, well out of time, Lisa got ed lisz Bag thank you both so much now after the break and other cringe worthy performance by Joe Biden reminding us so he's still the mad well for another week at least with the nuclear codes, Koshagada would join me after this quick break, welcome back. Well, let's turn to the United States, where Donald Trump has been dropping hints on acquiring Greenland.
We need greenland for national security purposes.
People really don't even know if Denmark has any illegal right to it.
And Sky News contributor Koshagata joins me, now, kosher, great to see you. Look, how has Denmark responded and what do you make of Trump's aspirations here?
You know, it's a classic Trump. He loves to showcase the art of the deal where this would be a negotiation. It's not something militaristic, it's not something in the nuts and balls. It's like big picture ideas, and it shifts the orbit and window of what might be possible. The US does have a long history of making land purchase agreements with dollars Florida from Spain, Louisiana from France, and actually the US Virgin Islands were purchased from Denmark in
nineteen seventeen. So he's using that as a backdrop and trying to put this trial balloon out there. The response I think, you know, the leadership of Denmark and even some parties within Greenland have sort of been brushing it off and making fun of it. There are some polls suggesting that the people might be interested in it, and the leader, the Prime Minister of Greenland, actually just came out and said that he's open to discussion and negotiation.
I think that's a start, So it'll be very interesting to see Trump laid out what the cases for the US, which I think is obvious. There's also a case for Greenland that you know, they're already being protected indirectly by the US. This would just make it more protective. And maybe there's more upside that they could share in that model for their mineral and resource richness that the US could help them develop at a better and faster pace than Denmark probably could.
And there have been reports that there have been private messages and back channels between Greenland and the Trump team, So we'll see how that goes now. Meanwhile, Joe Biden has made global air waves because he says he could have beaten Trump, and he thinks even Kamala Harris could have beaten Trump.
Have a look, I think I would have beaten Trump, could have beaten Trump, and I think that Karmala could have beaten Trump, would have beaten Trump. It wasn't about I thought it was important to unify the party.
Kosher Kamala could have beaten Trump if one there was a way we could have tested that theory.
Oh yes, he could have and would she could even would have, but they didn't. And you know, it's so funny. He's arguing a hypothetical, but nobody believes it obviously, and their track records, not only now in this race, but historically as well. They're not exactly the best campaigners that they've lost multiple things both times, and this time Trump was just a whirlwind that nobody could stop.
What about this former Trump advisor Steve Bannon, he's said that Elon Musk is going to be out of the White House by inauguration day. So he's reportedly told one METEA outlet that he's not going to have a blue pass to the White House, he won't have full access, He'll just be like any other person. I mean, that might technically be true, but kosher Elon's been by Trump's side, so it seems unlikely he's suddenly going to be on
the outer. But what do you think of this push by the true magas against Elon?
You know, every movement has its alliances. Some are easy alliances, sum are uneasy alliances. And this tech right, as it's been called to Silicon Valley people that have by and large been more friendly to the left by every metric, and really threw down for Trump at this time is
an example of that uneasy alliance. So that's typified by Musk versus Bannon, and these are people who've been in the trenches and they've sort of prison sentences and they've been canceled, and they're saying, hey, you know you guys are Johnny Completely's Your help was much appreciated, but take a backseat to us. You're sort of seeing that play out with the legal immigration debate, with the free speech debate a little bit, and I think that's kind of
what he's signaling. But for now, you're right, Musk has definitely earned a seat at the table with the help that he's provided financially in every other which way, and those two seem to be joined at the hip. So I don't see that breaking anytime now, but anything is possible, exactly, and.
It can't last forever that sort of romance. All right, Coach you gada. Great to see you again, and thanks everyone for your company tonight on our first show back. I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock. But for now, I'm sure the man you have missed all summer, Paul Murray, have a good show, Paul