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This is Sharry Good Evening.
Welcome tonight.
Did Albanizi cover up a hostile incident with the Chinese fighter jet to avoid questions in Parliament. This act of aggression happened on Tuesday, but it's only been made public this evening. I'm going to speak about this cover up with Matt Canavan and Basil Zemplus in a moment.
Also on the.
Show, the Midwife who's been warning about hate speech in the health system for months, but when she complained she ended up under investigation.
Sharon Stallier will be here shortly.
Tony Burke's agency selects an artist whose work includes a terror leader to represent Australia at an overseas festival.
I'll bring you his.
Sheepish response to our questions in a moment, and Antoinette Latouf slammed for turning up to court in a reported undred one thousand dollars wardrobe, plus the cringe social media videos from ministers.
Don't they have any work to do?
But first tonight Peter Dutton says there should be debate about Australia's migration system, amid calls to strip those two nurses.
Of their citizenship.
One of the nurses armed Russian Idea, was given Australian citizenship in twenty twenty. Well Darton says, this exposes major flaws with the migration system that someone so racist, who seems to hate our country was granted precious citizenship.
We've got big problems in this country when somebody like that can become an Australian citizen. So there needs to be a proper process in place to understand how this individual became an Australian citizen and where the failing in the system originated, and how we can make sure it doesn't happen again.
And just as a reminder as to how vile the comments are, because they've been downplayed in a lot of quarters today.
And I'll get to that.
Here's what Ahmed told Israeli Max Weifer.
So, if an Israeli is in Australia and that's what something happened to him, and he comes.
To your hospital, would you kill him?
Okay, you have no idea how many Israeli dog came to this hospital.
And Jehanna well Darton said, it's an outrage that citizenship was given to that individual.
And he said, in light of this video, there.
Should be a national discussion about the inadequacies of our migration system.
At some stage our country has to have a discussion.
I think about the way in which the whole migration system works, the people who are involved for years and years at the cost of millions of dollars in the court process, the way in which we have to pay for offshore processing hundreds of millions of dollars a year, And when we have somebody like this who gets through the net obviously has breached his obligation about a loyalty to our country when he became an Australian citizen, and yet he has the ability to stay in our country.
And Darton was speaking to Ben Fordham, who said that he'd been flooded with listeners saying that those two should be deported. But as much as we may sit here tonight and say there's no place for racist individuals like this in our country, that Australian values are of tolerance and matship and inclusion, well the law is that unless they're dual citizens, there's nothing that can be done to
strip their Australian citizenship. This debate rage today as evidence emerged that one of those nurses led a prayer about Martyrdom at a Sydney mosque food.
God on siod.
On.
Now we can't verify that prayer independently, but the Daily Mail and this is reported widely today. The Daily Mail reports that a clip posted to YouTube in June twenty twenty shows an Idea's prayer to Martyrdom and they say that was just months before he was granted Australian citizenship and it seems his hatred towards Jews is not isolated.
Sky News reporter Crystal Wu went out to Bankstown today and she found that some men were very comfortable going on camera saying that they agreed with those nurses that Israeli should be killed.
Them.
He said, yes, in any way possible.
You stand with the fact that someone has threatened to kill and not treat a Jewish patient.
And what about all the kids that Jews have killed. Israel's killing kids in Palestini and people here obviously all around the world, look what they did and live on them as well.
Look, this is the fear that the hatred of Jews is now widespread, particularly in Sydney's West and senior Islamic leaders also failed to properly call this out today the Lebanese Muslim Association secretary Garmel Kira.
He was on with Laura Jays this morning and.
He wouldn't condemn the nurses as individuals. He even compared them to soccer star samker.
Why won't you condemn the individuals they have a special place in society as nurses.
Because I believe in a due process process. What do you mean by that?
Because I mean it's pretty black and white.
Let the police, due and the Department of Health do their due diligence just the way you're alluding to, it is condemning them already prior to the whole trial process.
What are you potentially waiting for, Sam Kerr?
Do we condemn her statements? No, we condemned the statements that she made. But do we condemn her No we don't. We will reach out and we make the attempt to rectify what is clearly a racist statement.
How can he possibly compare these anti Semitic nurses with Sam Kerr. It's absurd sam Kerr called someone white and stupid. She didn't remotely threaten to kill anyone or claim that she already had. And even worse, because this was quite an extraordinary sixteen minute interview. In the interview, Gummel Kirr claimed that politicians in the media were using this video for political mileage, and he said that the media was only focusing on anti Semitism.
The media scene and the politicians seemed to be concentrating on one form of racism, which is abhorrent.
So can I just pick you up on that because I haven't seen any Muslim childcare center's fire bomb, I haven't seen any Israeli nurses.
And take you through the mosques and show you the mosques that have been that have been targeted on the life twelve months in the last twelve months.
It's extraordinary, isn't it. It's just not based in fact.
And Laura Jay's also played for gamel the infamous clip of the Hate Preacher on October the eighth, saying how elated he was this the day after Hermas had slaughtered babies, children, entire families, and asked for his reaction, Gabelle couldn't even come out and strongly condemn the Hate Preacher.
This was October eight, just after the October seven attacks in Sydney.
Well, with all due respect, I wasn't caught on to make a statement about that. That statement has now been over three years old, and that's been that's already gone through the whole process that we were talking about. This is due process now. I would love if you are going to use that video play it unedited.
That hate preacher saying how happy he is after oney two hundred Jews were killed is one of the simplest things in the world to condemn, and to be frank that hate preacher's happiness is the most disgusting celebration of slaughter that I've ever seen.
That hate preacher should.
Have been charged by police, yet of course he wasn't, and now Islamic leaders can't even condemn those remarks. This is a major problem in our Australian society and Gamal unfortunately wasn't alone in his weak response to the nurses video.
Today, a pro.
Palestinian influencer conceded that the video showed, in her words, a concerning and disturbing conversation, but then she went on to say that it was entrapment with no evidence and that she's seen far worse from the other side.
Have a look.
My message is to young people in particular, you are being watched and nothing and nowhere is safe. There is no such thing as a safe space. Do not trust anyone on social media. Don't engage in conversations like this seeking to especially entrap you will be ultimately used against you and potentially used to completely, you know, impact.
On your future.
So we don't live in a situation where you can freely have a conversation whether you mean things or don't mean things. If you are Palestinian or pro Palestinian, if you are an Arab, and especially if you are a Muslim, God forbid you will you will be met with the high end of the stick. So don't take the risk and don't engage.
This is extreme gas lighting.
While Jewish Australians are now worried about going to hospitals in some parts of Sydney, worried whether they will be safe spaces, this influencer is worried about pro Palestinians being caught out whether they have a safe space for racism. Now we have to be very clear. The nurses are not the victims here. They're not victims of a hostile media. And again, if you need reminding, here's the aggressive death threats that they made.
One then one day, your time will come and you will die.
The most common they send to me, listen to.
Me and when you're when your.
Time comes, how are you doctors? I want you to remember them.
I have okay, okay, you will have a question.
I have to say this reaction today from influencers and Islamic leadership is part of the issue. We need Islamic leaders to unequivocally send a message that anti Semitic conduct is unacceptable.
They need to.
Strongly embrace all Australians and promote values that we all hold dear of.
Tolerance and peace.
Then there was another organization that gave a weak response today and that was the Pro Palestinian and I have to say that because the name is misleading. Jewish Council of Australia. Their spokeswoman, Sarah Schwartz, is often seen on the ABC because she's their type of Jews.
She's critical of.
Israel and she was the one you'll recall behind the offensive Dutton's jew slides the other week. And now look at the statement that the Jewish Council made today about this nurse's video. Now, they initially said yesterday that they condemned the hatred in the strongest possible terms, but then today they said we will await a full investigation of this incident, including a review of the unedited footage, before
commenting further. I mean, really, is there any context in which those comments from the nurses could be explained or condon't? Of course there isn't, And yet police too still haven't pressed charges, with Commissioner Karen Webb saying she was waiting for critical evidence.
We really need to commit the influencer to paper and if we are able to do that today, then we can work through whether these people are.
If there are no charges pressed here, then there needs to be a total overhaul of the police. The police have let hate preachers off the hook. They've been weak in the face of aggressive protesters. They've arrested Jews instead of dealing with the threatening, angry mob. If there are no charges here, this would have to be the final straw. Surely Karen Webb would then have to resign.
Now.
Peter Darton, and he said this before, but he was pretty clear in his view today that there has been a lack of police enforcement on anti Semitism.
Well, again, I think it's an outrage and it just doesn't have any place in our society. We shouldn't tolerate hatred or people who advocate violence, and there are laws which prohibit that from happening. It's a failure of the system where the laws aren't enforced, and I think that has been the case in New South Wales, in Victoria and across the country. We've seen police be instructed just to stand back at protests and allow these people to preach similar words of hate, not just at mosques, but
also at the university campuses. And it's completely and utterly unacceptable.
And meanwhile, a minister in the Albanese government has blamed Sky News at Night. She cause us Sky after Dark for criticism that the government hasn't done enough on anti Semitism. The person you're about to see is Anaka Well's the Spot and Aged Care minister.
We are seeing people in these extremist factions feel very emboldened by what's going on and the fact that the Albanesi government hasn't been swift enough in condemning these things.
Lucy that Licien.
That is a gross mister presentation of the Prime Minister's actions across a series of events designed to appeal to Sky after Dark audience. Don't think that trying to stoke this fight what helps anyone.
Doing this fight.
Stoking this fight is exactly how people do feel emboldened.
Sky after Dark audience, she said, that's all of you. This is obviously both tone death and insulting. It's a major failure to understand not just the Jewish community, but all Australians who are fed up with the lack of action on this issue. Sky after Dark, by the way, isn't a criticism. I am so proud that our nighttime hosts take the issue of antisemitism more seriously than anyone.
Else, and so do our viewers.
That's why we're having this summit next week. Anika Wells was silly to mock us. The truth is Australians have watched as senior Albanesi government ministers struggle to even utter the word anti Semitism without mentioning is homophobia. The Prime Minister played tennis while the Adash Synagogue smoldered, and he has inexplicably refused to hold a judicial inquiry into universities.
It's all a reflection of how the Albanesi government, from the Prime Minister down has never truly understood the depth of the racism.
Crisis in Australia.
Albanezi is so wrapped up in his own bubble he's failed repeatedly to meet the moment and adequately respond to the racism now festering in our suburbs. Okay, I'm going to come back to that a bit later with Sharon Stollier, also with Claire Lehmann later in the show. But now let's turn to some of the other major news of the day with National Senator Matt Canavan and Perth Mayor Basil Zemplers.
Welcome to you both.
Look, this is quite an outrageous cover up.
So just late this afternoon, Defense Minister Richards revealed to my colleague here and Gilbert that a Chinese fighter jet had released flares within thirty meters of an Australian military aircraft as it carried out a routine patrol over the South China Sea.
Now, Matt, this took place at one o'clock.
On Tuesday, but they didn't make it public until after question time today. This is the last sitting day before the federal election, so Matt Canavan, this is obviously a deliberate tactic to avoid answering questions in Parliament.
Well, it looks that.
Why it doesn't, Shari, It's a bit hard to add it up. Otherwise you would think something of this grave nature would be announced by the Prime Minister while he was here in Canberra. To me, it's just simply another symptom of the weakness of this government. They seemed to shy away from controversy rather than respond to it. Obviously, an incident of this nature was extremely serious and concerning
for Australians. It would appear in the face of it to be an outright active aggression from Chinese military forces. But it needs a response from our leader and our Prime Minister to show that we united in our response and that we won't be intimidated. But instead, when things like this seem to happen, the Prime Mister too often runs and hides rather than confront the issue head on. And I think his leadership, his style of leadership, the lack of strength in his leadership, will be a major
issue with that election. Even though we're not going to have that parliamentary scrutiny you said, his response on issues like this will be under the microscope at the next federal election.
Absolutely, it's just further weakness.
I mean he's too weak in the face of China basl and we know Albinizi has been closing up to Chinese President Shijiping. This is just the latest hostile example of China's ongoing pattern of aggressive behavior, and just like last time, the PM didn't want questions on it.
I think the Australian public deserve to have some answers around this, and ideally those answers come with Parliament being fully able to challenge the Prime Minister and the Defense Minister to get those answers. And the first thing members of the general public are entitled to ask is well, was our aircraft in their airspace or not? I mean we should know that that's a fundamental If we were
in their airspace, why were we in their airspace? And was the reaction from the Chinese military over the top or fair enough in the circumstances. So without answering any questions, and by delaying the announcement until after Parliament has risen, then it only raises further questions in the minds of everyday Australians and they deserve to have the respect and courtesy of some answers around what's taken place here because at the end of it all. If it becomes hostile,
we know who pays the price. So let us know, Prime Minister, tell.
Us what happened, and also the ADF.
They would want to know the thousands of people who serve in the ADF that the Prime Minister has their back. Andrew Hasty released quite a good statement on this and he said Richard Miles must explain why he's conveniently released this information at the end of a parliamentary sitting week despite knowing about the incident for days, avoiding serious questions about.
National security matters.
So this is going to be a big issue the cover up in.
The coming days.
Now, let's have a look at Donald Trump and the negotiations that he's about to have with Vladimir Putin to try and, as he says, solve or end the Russia's war on Ukraine. Putin and Trump are set to meet in Saudi Arabia to discuss ending the war. This is after his ninety minute phone call. Trump is also spoken with Ukraine President Voladimir Zelenski.
There's also going to.
Be Secretary of the State meetings in Munich later this week. Matt, do you have confidence that Trump will be able to sought this out in a way that isn't simply appeasing Russia.
Well, look, I hope.
That's the outcome we've got. I don't know. I don't trust anyone. I suppose in this game, Shari, we just got to be judged on results. That should be the yardstick, and obviously we don't have the results yet in from these discussions. I think it's a positive thing that discussions are occurring. I've called for that for years. I felt that one of the most remarkable things about this conflict is the complete absence of any conversations to try and
bring it to an end. Now, maybe maybe that that possibility was not able to come to fruition in the last few years, but at the very least we should try for peace. I mean, hundreds of thousands of people probably have died. It's terrible. It's a massively inhumane circumstance, and the lack of any conversations, to me, was a mist opportunity to try and avoid more people from dying.
So I fully support the new US president trying to bring the conflict to an end, and look, he'll be judged on the results he achieves, just like every other world leader and politician.
Yeah, and let's see where he gets to and that. Look, I want to show you this video now. Believe it or not, these three women are among the most senior ministers in the Albanezi government. Have a look, oh, Basil, it's so embarrassing. I mean, how do these they just don't seem serious when they behave like that, And aren't they too busy to spend presumably at least half an hour making some social media video.
Yeah, it's really an interesting part of modern politics and certainly modern campaigning.
I'll be honest.
It was very small on the screen and I hadn't seen it before, so I couldn't see the other detail, but I could see the sort of general carry on that was taking place. So without commenting on the specifics. Look, some people decide that we need to better engage with the Australian public and this is a way of doing it.
But I think when there are so many serious issues at play, by and large, the Australian population wants to see their ministers, their senior members of Parliament, their Prime minister and premiers around the state doing what their job is, being serious, giving us answers, giving us a future direction. And I'm not sure that was the right time or the right place.
Yeah, I think it's just not a good look. And I also don't know how they have time. They're meant to be federal government ministers.
I don't know.
Surely they have more work to do than making social media videos. Just very quickly before we go, Matt Canavan, the Coalition is calling on the government, specifically Chris Bowen, to rule out introducing carbon border tariffs.
Now, this would.
Be a tax on imports from countries who aren't doing enough on climate change.
This is a story in the Australian.
Matt, is this a scare campaign from your team or is this something that Chris Bowin is actually examining.
No, well he's put out He's put out a media release on this about a year ago saying that this was something the next step the government would be considering. Obviously, if we put a carbon tax our own industry like this government has done, the problem is that our people, our businesses have higher costs and potentially a lot of business in other countries that don't apply carbon tax do not.
And so the idea here is that, I mean, we need a tariff to level the playing field to correct for the tax that we've put into one tax, to correct for the tax that the government's put on already. Why don't we just get rid of all the taxes. That seems to me to make more sense. And here we've now got an inconsistency between the Energy minister and the Treasurer. The Treasurer this week said that he would not impose retaliatory tariffs on the United States and if
the US does not provide US an exemption. Yet at the same time, Chris Bowen's there, he's back pocket saying he would impose tariffs and they would obviously go on the United States, given that a carbon tariff would go in the United States, given that Donald Trump is pulled out of the Paris Agreement.
Just crazy, all right, I mean it's you just every idea that Chris Bowen has is more wacky than the last.
So wacky that you know.
Is all on social media like those other ministers. You can find him on kiktok, which I'm sure you're not on.
Mapp being a critic of the CCP like I am.
No, I'm not right, Matt Canavan Basi Zamplist.
Great to see you both all right, let's return now to that vile anti Semitic video of the two nurses at Bankstown Hospital.
There are now concerns. We're all concerned about just how.
Widespread this sentiment is in the health system, and we know that there's nurses for Palestine Instagram groups and others like it. Well, Sydney midwife Sharon Stollier has been sounding the alarm for more than a year about anti semitism in hospitals and she's suffered personally and professionally for it, and pleased to say, Sharon joins me now in studio to share her story.
Sharon, good to see you in person.
Hi, Shari, thanks for having me now.
You spoke about this in a video that's gone absolutely viral today.
But take us to the beginning.
So when did you realize there was an issue and write to AFRA to complain about it.
I think the issue I noticed there was an issue when I started getting a lot of private messages in my Instagram from Jewish nurses, Jewish midwives, Jewish pregnant women and you're not Jewish, but I'm not Jewish. No, But at the time, in October twenty twenty three, I hadn't noticed any other anyone in the maternity care space actively or speaking out against anti Semitism in healthcare. I was specifically talking about maternity care because that is my space, but I noticed it quite early on.
And you wrote to Apra to complain about it.
I've written to Oprah a few times, but it's not just me. There's been many Jewish healthcare workers, doctors, nurses, midwives who've been working quite hard behind the scenes trying to get Opera to adopt the IRA definition of anti Semitism, trying to get that incorporated into the code of conduct. They've had several meetings with Opera Hatred ple c and they've been trying, but it really doesn't seem to have gotten anywhere.
So you were also writing about the fact that there were nurses and midwives in their new southe was health uniforms chanting hateful slogans. Yes, yet you found yourself under investigation.
What happened?
So because I was so outspoken about that, and because I made some posts saying actually, this breach is a code of conduct in my opinion, because I believe that Chant is a genocidal chant, Apra started receiving a lot of complaints about me which were forwarded onto the Hatred le C because they deal with New South Wales registered practitioners, and I received complaint after complaint after complaint. Initially they
were all dismissed. However, I didn't know that two complainants, some of them were anonymous complainants as well, asked for a review of that decision, and then that went on to receive four more corrective comments on my registration without me even knowing, without me getting a chance to reply to any of these complaints.
Yeah, it was quite horrific.
So you had the courage.
You're not Jewish, you had the courage to stand up on behalf of the Jewish nurses and midwives who are your colleagues, who were dealing, who were hurting by the fact that there was this strong pro Palestinian, anti Israel, genocidal.
Hateful chance.
You had the courage to stand up to it, to write letters, to speak out about it on social media, and you ended up having this mark against your record.
Yeah, it's just terrible.
And you were also without mentioning any names, because this is how we first connected a long time ago. You were also doxed and harassed on social media by pro Palestinian activists.
Yes, that's right, and that led to an even bigger campaign to complain about me to our proh H wills all over the place. It was quite a mess to deal with for me. But I think we've just seen the tip of the iceberg here because people have seen what's happened as a result of speaking out. So Jewish healthcare workers, Jewish pregnant women are of.
Great to speak out.
I just I have a lot of messages, private messages, and have collected them since October seventh, twenty three.
So how widespread is this sentiment, this anti semitism in the New South Wales health system?
You know?
The Premier today said it was just an aberration. Do you agree with that?
No? I think this is this is just it goes far deeper than This is a cancer in our healthcare system. This is not just something that's popped up. This is something that has been allowed to fester and brew and come out unrestrained because there has been no leadership from upper management regulatory bodies in healthcare. And I definitely think if nothing's done now, it is only going to get worse.
Well, I think we need to pass these concerns onto Ryan Park, the Health Minister, tell him what's happened.
To you, because this is really an appalling case.
Sharon Stolia, You've been so courageous over the past sixteen months and thank you very much for joining us.
Thanks having a.
Show, Welcome back well.
The artists chosen to represent Australia at the prestigious Venice Bienali exhibition is a Muslim artist called Karleb Subsavi. But his works include a video installation of Hezbalat terrorist leader Hassan Nazraala, who as you know, was killed last year now. Also another work includes art promoting Sama bin Laden and a series of it's a video of the nine to eleven terror attacks of aircraft hitting the twin towers.
It's a bit of a mash up of that video, but the title is thank you very Much.
Yet he was selected to represent Australia at the sixty first international Art exhibition LARABIONALI. This is a prestigious art exhibition. That's a screenshot you can see there from his video installation called thank you very Much of the nine to eleven attacks. I mean, this is absolutely disgusting. It's such a prestigious role to represent Australia. How can he have been chosen. We put questions to Arts Minister Tony Burke.
About this today.
He was clearly embarrassed, but yet he still didn't say that karl Ed won't be going to Italy. This is what he told us and I quote, I was not involved in the decision. I was shocked to see some of the works which are online this afternoon. I understand the Creative Australia Board is meeting tomorrow, so perhaps they'll reverse the decision tomorrow. We wait and see, all right.
The Australian's chief political correspondent, Jeff Chambers joins us. Now, Jeff, there have been problems with Creative Australia before, but this is another reflection on shocking judgment from Tony Burke and the Albanese government and their agencies.
Yeah, Shari, simple vetting. It's not that hard, particularly in this hot environment around anti Semitism. You have to remember Tony Burke is also the Minister for High Affairs, which leads policy around social cohesion. He's been the Arts Minister since the twenty twenty two election. We see this in the arts and in the university higher education sector. There's a lot of wakism. It's dominated by people of the
more extreme left compared to the mainstream. And what we've seen in the United States with Donald Trump's war on wakism and how he's gone into some of these arts and cultural organizations and taken over things like the Kennedy Center. I wouldn't be surprised if Peter dunn't were to win the election. The work that he's doing with just Enter Price would be a real, real close look at some of these grants. I mean there's grants going out everywhere.
What kind of vetting's being done, and who's sitting on the boards of these organizations. There has to be some accountability outside of Sorry, we didn't know about this. We'll check it out. We'll have another meeting to discuss it.
Yeah, we absolutely need the Elon Musk style and hopefully just Enterprice will do it, as you say, to really just go through a lot of this bureaucracy. Now, Jeff, you you wrote an excellent article today, but you are saying that even if there's a rate cut at the February eighteen RBA board meeting, this might not deliver the Prime Minister the boost that he's been hoping for. Do you think the perception about Albanize he has cemented really with a large part of Australians.
Yeah. So I did some analysis recently, Shari, looking back at all rate cuts and rate hikes twelve months out from an election or in an election campaign, and this goes back to the nineteen ninety election, and what I found is that generally even interest rate hikes, all cuts in an election campaign has had very minimal impact on
the final result. Remember at the twenty two election, Scott Morrison and Josh Freidenberg copped that rate hike in the campaign, but it was according to the polls, it was looking like the Morrison government wouldn't survive that election. So I think what the other issue here is that people are just under so much stress and pressure that one rate cut from a twelve year high four point three five percent, even if it's February, if it's April, that's getting really
far too late. Once it actually flows through, the impacts for Australians really won't be felt for some months. So I know that the Labor MPs and that the government have all got their fingers crossed, their toes crossed, for a rate cut, and I'm sure households and businesses also are hoping for some relief, but in terms of the top tier issues, that interest rate cut is likely going to be minimal.
I just want to ask you about the election timing. You're in Canberra, of course, and it's the last day of the parliamentary sitting fortnite. I understand the Prime Minister did the rounds in the press gallery the safternoon. There was a lot of frenzied speculation in the building that he could call the election this weekend, but of course we all think it's more likely that he'll call it after the WA state election, so after March the eighth, and then he'd be heading to the polls April twelve.
What's your sense, Look, I think the election will be in that early April zone. Obviously it should. It would have to be in early April, because we've got Easter and we've got Enzac Day. I think passovers in there as well. So I think a lot of it hinges on the rate cut decision next week and then polling, so they'll be looking at various polls and data that's going to be coming out. It did have a real feel today that it was the last day of school.
I know that some Labor MPs have got boxes to pack up, and Graham Perrot and Brian Mitchell, who were departing Labor mpce had little shout outs in question time today. So I think from the government's perspective, from the Prime Minister's perspective, he's going to end up having a minority government, but he's desperate to win and really I think timing could play a really crucial role in that result.
Yeah, I look, I just maybe I'm just surrounded by people who really dislike the Prime minister, but I'm just finding it harder to see that he'll be voted back in. I understand the argument that Peter Dutton has too much ground to make up, not to mention winning back seats from the deals, but I just don't see who votes for Albanezi. Given Labour's primary at the last election was thirty two percent, it was in a historic load.
Then he's only lost the pot since then. What do you think?
Yeah, so if you look at the historic nature of things and I both leaders have nineteen thirty one, it was the height of the Great Depression. That was the last time that a first term government was turfed and they lost in a land slide, and that was a labor government, the skull and government. I think that people are generally looking at the history and looking at the mountain that Peter Dutton has to climb. I think it's
going to be a very interesting result. Obviously, there might be some movement away from the major parties and that's where the Independence and other minor parties will play a role. So I don't think that either of them will get
there in a majority sense. But there's going to be massive swings against the government and Peter Dutton is going to have to run a really great campaign, get the coalition messaging out and crucially execute in those strategic seats where they have to win and hold those seats that there are some coalition seats that are vulnerable, so he needs to hold what he's got and then win as many as he can.
All right, Jeff Chambers, great to have you on, Thank you so much.
Now still to come in when now the twops reported ten thousand dollars court wardrobe plus Peter Dutton calls for a debate on stripping citizenship from those who don't share our values.
Claire Lehman would.
Join me after this quick break.
Welcome back with The Australian is tonight reporting that health authorities are troiling through thousands of patient records to make sure that those two nurses haven't inflicted.
Any harm on past patients.
It's extraordinary that this needs to be done. To discuss this, let's bring in now Lehmann, commentator or columnist for The Australian and founder of Quillette.
Great to see you.
Thanks for having me, Sharry.
Now you wrote about this issue today. You know, how is it that we're in a situation where authorities are having to check the history of patients to make sure nurses haven't harmed or killed anyone in Australia.
Yeah, it's outrageous, Sharry.
And what I said in my piece is that this actually represents a fundamental sh This is like a tear in.
Our social fabric.
We're a high trust nation, you know, when we go to the hospital, we never have to think about the political beliefs, the ethnicity, the religion of the people who.
Are caring for us.
And this is the first time that I'm aware of that this has happened where healthcare workers have come out and said that they will not treat people according to their nationality and they'll actually harm people.
And murder people because of their nationality.
And this I think is going to damage the social fabric of Australia. You can already see it in the faces of the Health Secretary who was close to tears.
You can see it in.
The anger of the new South Wales Health Minister.
And to his credit, he's come out and with a forceful response.
But I think we really had a lack of leadership at the federal level, in particular, in particularly the Prime Minister. And I think part of the problem is that they cannot name this form of antisemitism. It's not Neo Nazi antisemitists, it's Islamists antisemitism.
They can't call it out.
They can't name it because they rely on votes in certain marginal seats in Western Sydney and they're afraid of alienating or rocking the boat with these marginal seats.
And that's a problem, and that.
Failure of leadership has allowed this problem to grow beyond what it.
Should have.
Because the perpetrators of it feel like it's tolerated.
No one is telling them to stop.
Everyone's telling the neo Nazis to stop saying, yeah, that Islamic extremism is a problem, exactly.
And these two individuals, they weren't wearing masks. They were happy to blatantly say they would kill people according to their nationality to a complete stranger on the internet, Now, what kind of environment do you have to live in we're calling for people's murder or expressing that you individually would just kill someone or murder someone. What kind of environment are these people living in where that's okay and that's tolerated.
I mean, I don't know. I don't have any friends who would say that ever.
And if they did, they wouldn't be your friends exactly.
But it's not normal, except it's festering in some parts of our community exactly.
And Sky News reporter Crystal Wu went to Bankstown today and it didn't take long for her to find others who supported those nurses. Likewise, they were happy to be filmed to go on camera to say that what those nurses said was fine because all Israelis are killing people.
It's earth shattering that this is how we're living.
Premier Chrismins did come out today and he tried to reassure the whole community, that everyone will be looked after.
Here's what he had to say. We don't have it.
That's all right, those comments from Chrismans, but again the fact that he has to come out because we do have it.
Let's have a look at those remarks.
We need to send a clear and unambiguous message that if you go to an emergency department, if you're on a ward anywhere in New South Wales, you'll be treated by people who have a highly trained, who are highly skilled, but care about you. And I can understand right now members of the Jewish community, and even those that are members of the Jewish community, would be uphalled at.
This latest revelation.
We just can't stand for it.
And the reality is, Claire, there will be people who are Jewish who will feel nervous going under general anesthetic.
Now, absolutely, but you know it's not just I know this affects the Jewish community more than anyone else, but it's not just the Jewish community. And this ideology, this violent ideology of Islamism, doesn't stop at the hatred of Jews. It expands beyond that. We know that because it's the ideology of Hummus, it's the ideolology of al Kayata is the ideology of Hesbela and their.
Tamber eleven of the Barley bombings exactly.
And to be honest, other Muslims are also targeted Muslims that aren't hardline enough. So it's a political ideology, it's not a religion. And so we need politicians who can take a stand and separate the two and say we do not want this political ideology in our country.
It needs to be stamped out.
Leaders particular leaders need to take a firmer position and basically have zero tolerance for it.
And yet we saw tonight that Tony Burke's agency Creative Australia has chosen an artist to represent Australia overseas. One of his works is of Nasralla, the former terrorist leader, the HESLA leader celebrating September eleven attacks.
I mean the right is right throughout our bureaucracy. Yeah, and this is just help.
And this is one of the things that October seventh have as sort of exposed in our society is this weird relationship between the hard left and the Islamists. You would think that they wouldn't have anything to do with each other.
But they use are so different.
They dove tail when it comes to hatred of Israel.
And that's the scary thing when you get this violent ideology being excused or even promoted by people who should know better.
Yeah, just very quickly before you go, Antoinette. Sky News report that Antoinette Latouffe has been turning up for her ABC unfair dismissal case.
In outfits that have been making the headlines.
Let's have a look at the article Her wardrobe is worth Claire. Yeah, and the Sky News article details all of the outfits and the hammbags there. You know, this has been a case again where ABC chose diversity. It's come out in court that she was a diversity higher that's been the evidence in court. And she was an activist, so not an impartial journalist which is in their charter.
This is what's brought the problems on.
Yeah.
I mean the ABC have really harmed themselves in this particular case. And it was clear that she was using her job at the ABC as a vehicle for self promotion, just as she's using the court case as a vehicle for self promotion. She knows she's going to be on camera, so she's investing in these glamorous outfits. And you know, I wouldn't hold that against anyone, except she's crowdfunding for her legal fees.
So I mean, she's got.
Every right to, you know, take matters into her own hands and go through the court system if she wants.
But she's raising money from.
People who have bills to pay and you know, who have other responsibilities, and I just think that's a little bit it's a little bit cynical.
Yeah, absolutely, all right, thank you so much. Great to have you on the show. As always, Claire really appreciate.
Thank you, Sherry, And don't you all love Claire's columns in the AUSTRAI all right, still to come. I bring you some of your ideas on how to fix antisemitism ahead of our summit that's next. Well ahead of our antisemitism summit. I asked you for your ideas to fix this crisis because well, our political leaders are not doing a good job.
We've had nearly six hundred emails.
So far, all with brilliant suggestions on how to address this crisis. Many of you say this begins with education in schools. This email reflects many It is crucial that the Holocaust is included in the educational curriculum from primary through to secondary school.
Another idea that's come through.
Is a way to report this or incidents for immediate investigation, because so many incidents are happening and no one is held to account. Another idea is that there should be a national day to call out antisemitism. Gina wants the Opera House to be lit up every October seven in celebration of the Jewish community.
Hundreds of emails, Keep them coming.
Summit at sky news dot com dot AU, Summit at sky news dot com dot A U. I'll see you Monday at eight o'clock. Here's James Morrow.