Why on Sky News this is Sharry Good Evening.
Well, no one is going to fall for Fatima Payments act. She's claiming there that there's no place in our society for division when she is creating division. She voted in the Senate today to sanction Israel for daring to respond to the Hamas terror attacks. She claims there's no place for hatred, yet she continues to utter a hateful and anti Semitic phrase that calls for the destruction of the
Jewish homeland. She talks about being wholesome as a nation, but what we've seen from so many pro Palestinian activists is firebombing, anti semitism, of violence, and hate speech. None of that is wholesome. Well, I'd like to know if Fatima payment or anyone else on that program condemns the violent attacks on politicians, offices, labor politicians. That's far from wholesome.
Fatimah Payman and the Greens condemn Israel constantly, as we just heard, but how often do they speak passionately about the hostages, including babies and children, still held by terrorists in Gaza. None of them would dare to admit that Israel's war against himas would stop immediately if the terrorist
group simply surrendered and returned the hostages. Instead of having a whole Muslim political movement putting pressure on Labor to do more on Israel, why don't these Islamic leaders instead pressure hermus directly to return hostages and stop their violent, barbaric regime. Let's only cause bloodshed and loss of life
for both Palestinians and Israelis. Now, I've got to say I disagree with almost every word that was uttered in that program, apart from three sensible voices James Patterson, David Adler and Jamal Riffi.
They have little understanding about the ramification of what they are doing, not in southwestern Sydney, but across the nation. It's very divisive. In my opinion and in the opinion of the majority of people that I consulted with.
They've sought to weaponize a foreign conflict for domestic political advantage irresponsibly. They've whipped up a lot of anger in the community and directed it towards the electorate offices of Labor MPs in a way that's deeply dangerous and unprincipled.
And James Patterson will be on my show later tonight we've seen anger at what's happening in Gaza. Well that anger should be directed at Hermas, yet it's been directed at Jewish Australians and labor politicians. We are all Australians first, and the biggest social problem that Australia faces right now is lawlessness, violence, anti Semitism and aggression on our streets. Islamic extremism is the top terror threat. That's the problem
we face, not what's unfolding in Israel and Gaza. Now, let's have a look at the economy now, and we are seeing what is quite an historic conflict between the RBA and the Albenese government play out on a daily basis. The RBA seeks to take money out of the economy through rate rises, while the government insists on injecting money
back into the economy through big spending. Albanesi's latest pay rise of fifteen percent for childcare workers came just two days after the RBA specifically said the government in spending was keeping inflation high and that more rate rises may
be necessary. Well, we might have to pay even higher interest rates just so the Prime Minister can have an announceable so to speak, and positive pr a massive fifteen percent pay rises for childcare workers could now be replicated in other sectors, with more unions pushing hard for similar.
Sized pay rises.
As The Australian reported today, we're in an inflation crisis and the Albanezer government is working against the RBA. It's a potent political line of attack for the opposition. Today, yet again, Peter Dutton hounded the Prime Minister over his broken promise on the cost of living.
Before the election, the now Prime Minister promised to cut electricity bills by two hundred and seventy five dollars, provide cheaper mortgages and to ensure families will be better off on the cost of living. Instead of reducing costs for working families, US delivered twelve mortgage rate increases, a twenty two percent increase in electricity prices, and food and groceries have jumped by over eleven percent. Why does this tricky prime minister repeatedly promise one thing and do another.
After three filed budgets, labor has added over three hundred and fifteen billion dollars is spending. That's over thirty thousand dollars per household. This prime minister promised to reduce the cost of living, but the RBA says his decisions are pushing up the cost of living. Why does this tricky Prime minister repeatedly promise one thing and then do another.
Well, given the RBA statements are in black and white. The government spending and it's both state and federal government spending is keeping inflation high, there's really not much room for Albinezi to move. So he paints Peter Dutton as heartless for refusing to commit to the fifteen percent pay rise, when really it's the PM who's heartless because his spending is keeping inflation higher for longer and risking even more rate rises. Albinze's predecessor as labor leader, Bill Shotten, may
have made things worse for the government. On Q and A last night shoton eloquently highlighted all the areas where labor was contributing to inflation. You also helpfully added that some of it is home grown.
Have a look, it is.
Not all the governments fault about inflation the things they're criticizing. Yes, we have increased the age pension by one hundred and twenty bucks a fortnite in the last two years.
Yes we have increased the.
Disability Support pension by about one hundred and twenty bucks over the last two years. Yes, we are going to pay early childhood educators a pay rise. Yes we have supported wage rises for millions of people. Yes we have supported two point eight million people under forty five thousand dollars a year getting access to the tax cut which was otherwise reserved for the top end. There is some homegrown inflation. But I just think this argument that somehow
the government should just it's spending too much. What I never hear from perhaps either the commentators or the LIB policy is what are you going to cut?
Look, here's a very clever politician shot and so that response is actually quite funny and shot and saying it's not all the government's fault and inflation and yes, some of it is homegrown. I mean, he's basically mounting the coalition's argument for them. And by the way, Jane Hume did have a list of ideas about well what the government could cut.
Have a look, what about two billion dollars on the suburban rail loop in Victoria, a project that doesn't even have a business case, that's stacked up. What about a billion dollars to create solar SunShot solar panels that are never going to be competitive. Half a billion on an
American company's an American company's quantum computing project. And if you want to get right down to brass tax bill, how about six hundred and twenty thousand dollars on your speech writer so that you can sound more empathetic or the ice forpins Well.
Six hundred and twenty thousand isn't nothing but voter anger at the Prime Minister for working against the Central Bank is now growing. Figures show that thirty five percent of Australians have a mortgage. That's three point three million households going through financial pain, just so ALB and Easy can have some positive pr to try and win votes ahead of the election. The RBA's blunt instrument of raising rates does unfairly shoulder the burden of fighting inflation on mortgage holders.
Those three point three million households, they're usually middle income families working nine to five jobs, trying to raise kids. There are fairer ways of bringing down inflation that could work even faster now. There are two cutting edge ideas being discussed at the moment by the country's leading economists. One is to have a variable rate of GST. Whether RBA or another independent authority could adjust the rate higher or lower. This would reduce demand. It would affect all
Australians equally. But there's another option that economists say would be an elegant solution to calling the economy and fast. It's adjusting the of the superannuation guarantee. In times like wherein now the RBA or again another independent body could lift the super guarantee to say fifteen percent. It reduces disposable income and thus spending. It's fairer than only having
mortgage holders fight inflation. And then in other times when the economy is weaker and you need stimulation, the super guarantee could be cut to say five percent, and everyone takes home more money and is able to spend it, stimulating the economy. Unlike with rate rises where you never see the extra money you're paying again, when you're paying more super you do actually get to keep the money for your retirement. The Sydney Morning Herald's economics editor Russ
Gittens wrote about these ideas Briefly. He said, I'm attracted to the idea of temporary changes to the rate of compulsory superannuation contributions. He said the reliance on interest rates to reduce demand and is hugely unfair, but it's also lacking in effectiveness. All of us have contributed to the excessive demand for goods and services, but only the minority of us with big mortgages have been pressed directly to
pull back our spending. And he argues there's a strong case for reform in the macro economy and why should average Australians shoulder the burden of fighting the cost of living crisis while Albanese doesn't take the hint from the RBA to cut spending.
All right.
Also coming up on the show My Exclusive tonight, the Coalition is demanding that the Albanese government follow Germany's example and deport her mus supporters. That exclusive story coming up. Donald Trump wants an iron Dome for America. He made the remarks in an interview with Elon Musk today that the White House wanted to shut down and Raygun mocked
by Jimmy Fallon. While videos of kids doing better than the Australian Olympian go viral, but the only thing worse than Raygun's breakdancing are her academic papers.
She's trying to tie it to colonial structures. Everything's about racialized theory.
All right, Lots to get through tonight, So let's get straight into it with my panel, Former Speaker of the House Bronwin Bishop Ansky, news host Caleb Bond, Welcome to you both. Look, let's start with Peter Dutton's attack on the Prime Minister over cost of living. Bron went absolutely brutal remarks from the RBA that government spending is contributing to the inflation crisis. It has fueled Peter Dutton's attacks and really the Prime Minister can't argue with it.
No, he can't, because the whole point is that monetary and fiscal policy have to be in balance and they're not. You've got the RBA who has only one tool, and that's the razy interestrates, and that not only affects mortgage holders, but it also affects renters because it's passed on through the mortgage over a rental property. So in that context that the Reserve Bank has put up its interst rates, but the government has not done its bit.
I think.
Robert got de Leeves and showed some very good comments from Saul Eastleck saying that over the period from June twenty twenty two to March twenty twenty four that the state and federal expenditure on fixed capital and goods and service rose eleven point nine percent, whereas private consumption rose only three percent. And that says it all the government and most of those through that period of time, most of the state governments are also Labor are just spending now.
I think I said right from the beginning when the first of the twelve rating increases that labor has given was that they are pushing wages up, they are pushing costs up, and if you try to have one chase the other, then it's disaster.
And that's what you've got.
People get more money in their pocket, but you can buy less with it, and so your standard of living drops. And that's what Albinizi is responsible for. Plus the snake charmer who likes adjectives and adverbs much better than nouns.
I suspect that front page in the Australian today that it looks like unions for other social sectors are going to now start pushing for massive pay rises of fifteen percent. Taylor, what did you make of Bill Shotton's comments last night where he just listed all the areas that the government has pushed up spending in the past couple of years.
I mean clearly when he was saying it, he thought they were things that would play well to the audience in the broader public. Look at all the things we've done to alleviate your cost of living doubles. But it's again a case of the federal government trying to have its cake and eat it too, because it understands that it will come in for criticism if it doesn't do so to provide a level of support to people who
are struggling with the cost of living. But at the same time, it is that spending that entrenches the issues with cost of living because it entrenches the increases in inflation, or certainly the lack of a reduction in inflation, and the concept of having another model to deal with inflation apart from interstrates I think has great merit because it
is a blunt instrument. And I have criticized the RBA heavily before, but we do have to recognize that the only thing the RBA has available to it is to increase or cut interest rates. That's the only thing it has, and if the government won't play ball, and they haven't been playing ball. And the RBA has been very clear that government spending has put pressure on inflation. Then the only thing they can do is increase interest rates. And if you look at who is spending, it's not anyone
under the age of fifty five. Pretty much everyone statistically under the age of fifty five has reached use they're spending. People over the age of fifty five have increased their spending because if you've got money in the bank, exactly, the indust rates going up is good for you because you're making more money, which they then go and putting exactly.
And so wanted to me today that the cruise industry, for example, is to the right exactly, so.
That the poor mortgage holder and the renters who are living in the mortgage homes down here are suffering while everyone else is doing okay and has money in the bank is actually making more money than they did before. I mean, it's a lose lose from the perspective of trying to reduce inflation continuing to increase interest rates, because it doesn't work well.
When I first heard the idea about adjusting the superannuation guarantee, I thought it seemed radical, but perhaps, as you just outline, it is unfair and the current system does eventually have to change because three point three million people to be under such financial pressure with families, it's not shouldering the burden, and especially when the Albaneze government insists on mass of pay rises a fifteen percent at this time, and if they want to get inflation down faster, they can just stop.
I think from the consumption perspective, the GST idea makes sense as well, because of course, if you're spending the extra money you've made from interest rates going up, it may will be on things that you have.
You can talk about the GST till the cows come home. It's not going to change. It's in trench locked in because all the states haveft aug greet and it's never going to happen, So it's not worth talking about.
Other ideas are super guarantee.
What do you think about that one?
Well, I'd like to think about that. It looked a little bit too tricky for me. I about it, and I just want to see I just remember Simon Crean's father saying when he was part of the Widam government, when the insanity that is going on now looks remarkably like it was then, and his father said, one man's pay increase is another man's job. And that's the situation we're getting to, not in the public sector, but in the sector. It's small family businesses that are going broke.
And what we're seeing is is that the middle class is now.
Public sector, public aligned.
It's not the small business people, the entrepreneurs who were the backbone of this country, but their percentage of wealth of GDP, if you want to express it in those terms, has dropped.
And what we're seeing, I don't know.
Perhaps it's deliberate by the government, but they are deliberately trying to wipe out the small business sector.
Hope.
Let's hope not Let's have a look now at Ygun because her antics have now been ridiculed on the international stage. We even saw her mocked on Jimmy Fallon.
Have a look. You have to wonder where Raygun is right now? What's that music coming from.
How are you feeling since your performance?
I'm like, oh, no, no, Ill, we don't know me what many bands with you? How can you do that?
I have to ask you because because it's it's all that me and my friends have been talking about last night, after the show and today, and I'm not saying anything.
I'm you know, I think it's taken out.
I think it's the best thing that's happened in the Olympics the entire time.
Did anyone see the break dancing Lady.
Brom And it's such a pity that instead of the Australian team being known for our amazing metal tally, this is what we've become known for this embarrassment.
Well, I think they know we did very well in the medal tarrying, and that we won many metals that they might have liked to have won as well. But honestly and truly, I think we're all profoundly believed that it will no longer be in the Olympics.
It's gone. So it's yesterday's story.
What do you think, Kayla, Well, that may well be the silver lining is that she has proven how preposterous the whole idea of breakdancing being a part of the Olympics was. Because if you look into how she actually ended up at the Olympics, the World Sport Dance Federation, whateverything called they wanted ballroom dancing, the IOC wouldn't allow it.
Because they said it was two old fashions, so they put up break dancing, and there's no global breakdancing body anywhere, so they had to come up with an idea for how they would actually get people to qualify, and it eventually came down to a body that was put together in Australia, which was a small group of people who run some sort of breakdancing competition. It's got about fifteen
participants in it, of which Raygun was one. So the number of people who actually knew they could even qualify to go to break dancing in the Olympics for Australia was so small. That's how we ended up with this ray Gun woman. And I'm not convinced that the whole thing is not a bit part of ire with the other night off.
The just for the subject of one of her papers exactly.
She is going to turn this into some sort of academic pursuit. Now, the reaction to it, the fact.
That about university course. I know why universities.
It's it's too good to be true, it's actually too bad to be true, and we're going to pay for it through the public system. So you can write the paper, no doubt, But I reckon.
That she's already written the paper, hasn't she She's rather so then.
We're going to have a look at some of those papers a bit later on the show. But my biggest issue is that she stole the thunder of all of those amazing athletes that deserve to be celebrated. Now, last topic before we go, Ban Fordham exposed this morning Bill Shorten yet again featuring on the show tonight, for spending forty thousand dollars tax pay dollars on what Fordham described as a ritzy event for bureaucrats.
Have a listened now on the issue of spending money. You would think that Bill Shorten would be really careful at the moment as the Minister for the National Disability Insurance Scheme, which is in all sorts of financial trouble. But Bill has spent forty thousand dollars of taxpayers money on a ritzy event for bureaucrats. The forty grand was spent on a senior executive service leadership forum at Canberra's five star high At Hotel. This was in April.
Rumman.
On top of the six hundred thousand dollars this speech, this isn't a good look for Porod Shotten Well.
Parol Shorten, of course, is the man who is that comes out really on a regular basis and says he's going to solve the problem of the exploding costs of the d NDIS. He talks a lot and delivers nothing. But this was another talka on money doesn't mean anything to him. It just doesn't mean anything. He set up the NDIS. Now he's got forty thousand dollars expenditure trying to talk to the people who are running it, say what, we've got to reduce expenditure.
I mean, it's a joke, and so.
Is Bill Shorten, but he does desperately want to be Brandt Minister.
He does indeed.
All right, Roman Bishop Caleb bon calibacy at ten o'clock, of course, thank you both so much. All right, now to our exclusive tonight, I can reveal the coalition is demanding that the Albanezy government followed Germany's example and deport her Mus supporters from the country. This comes after Asiobus Mike Burgess admitted that Palestinians who expressed rhetorical support for her Mus wouldn't be blocked from coming to our country. He also said that not all visas had gone to
ASIO for security checks. This is an unforgivable national security failure that's put Australians at risk. Well, I spoke with Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson just a little while ago. How Many is introducing legislation to debat HAMAS supporters. Do you think Australia should be doing the same.
Well, we should absolutely be deporting anyone we can identify as supporting a terrorist organization Shari. But the good news is we don't need legislation to do it. We've already got that legislation. It's been passed by previous parliaments. It includes the character test in the Migration Act that says that people who are a threat to our community can have their visas revoked by the Minister for Home Affairs. And that's an important test for Tony Burke. Will he
step up? Will he act? Will he cancel the visas of Hamas supporters as well as stopping any new ones from coming to our country?
And it doesn't.
Seem like that's happening at the moment, does it. I mean the comments we heard from the AZIO Director General Mike Burgis on the weekend seem to be that the government's.
Policy is that it might be fine.
For some Hamas supporters to come to Australia on these temporary visas.
I'm deeply concerned Shari by the of the government to clarify in the last couple of days whether or not they are willing to bring Hamas supporters into Australia if they are only rhetorical or political supporters of Hamas. This is a question of government policy. This is a question of migration policy. Tony Burke is responsible for that. If he disagrees that Hamas supporters should not be able to
be brought into our country, he should say so. If he agrees that we should stop the mass supporters coming into our country, he should tell the public what he's doing to make sure that happens. But from so far we've had nothing but silence from the Minister of Home Affairs and it's not good enough.
Now you and Julian Lisa and other politicians have actually organized a petition to go to Tony Burke on this very topic. Can you tell us what you're calling for?
Look, this is a great initiative by my colleague Julian Lisa, and in just the first twenty four hours. More than seventy politicians have signed this letter to the Minister of Home Affairs asking him to be upfront and be straight with the Australian people. Is it this government's policy that political supporters of hamas are welcome in this country? And if so why? And secondly, what is he going to do about existing supporters of hamas and the community who
are here on visas? Will he cancel those visas and will he send them home as the German government has promised to do.
We big political news today that there's a Muslim candidate running against Tony Burke in his seat of Watson. Do you think his position is now under threat? And do you think his personal fight to hold onto his own seat is influencing Australia's foreign policy and national security.
Look, this appears to be a very serious independent challenge against Tony Burke. It's something that's been organized well in advance of the next election, with a candidate whose credentials seem on paper to be impressive, and I think it will be a very serious political threat to Tony Burke. The problem is that Tony Burke is now going to be forced to choose between his political interest and the national interest. If he wants to appease communities in his seat,
he might make one decision. If he wants to protect Australians, he might make a different decision. And frankly, the Prime Minister has placed him in an in enviable position. No minister should be placed in a position where they have to choose between their political interests and the national interest. Frankly, I don't have confident that Tony Burke would make the right decisions in those circumstances. So it was a bizarre decision by the Prime Minister to appoint him to this portfolio.
And it's up to the Prime Minister to reassure the Australian people that the political interests of Tony Burk won't I ride the national interest.
Already, it seems to me that the national interest, that national security, has been put at risk by the lack of concern about flying in her Musk supporters to Australia. You know, it just beggars belief, It truly does.
Look we just at the.
Start of or just before my show, we heard Fatima Payman speak in the sky News mini documentary about having a wholesome country, about not having any division here. Yet just today she supported the Greens in the Senate. They moved a motion to sanction Israel, no mention of the hostages, no mention of Hamas or condemning hermas. Do you think we have seen from her moves to heal division in this country or is she doing the precise opposite.
Well, they find sentiments, but I don't think Senator Payment all the Greens have lipped up to those sentiments. In fact, since the seventh October, both of them have sought every opportunity to weaponize this conflict for political purposes. Nothing is gained by this endless moving of motions in the Senate except elevating the political interests of Senator Payment and the Greens. They know before they move these motions that there's no
prospect of them passing. If they wanted to pass the motions, they would word them very differently. They would include condemnations of hostage taking, they would include condemnations of Hamas. But they don't do that because this is about politics, not
about bringing our country together. So I think we should look at those words from Senator Payment and others in that documentary as hollow words, as insincere words, and I think she should reflect if she really wants to deliver those outcomes in Australia, a different approach is necessary.
Look, we've heard the head of AZIO say on multiple occasions now that politicians need to be careful about their language so that he's effectively saying so that it doesn't incite violence or make the situation worse. Already, the terror threat level has risen to probable, meaning there's more than a fifty percent chance of a terror attack the next
twelve months. Do you think the Greens here really need to listen to the ASIO Director general's words because they are continually and wrongly accusing Israel of genocide, of deliberately targeting civilians, and that makes people angry when it couldn't be further from the truth.
I'm deeply concerned about this, Shari. I think it is a very significant risking we've seen the increase in the terrorism threat level in this country, that people could be incited into committing an act of violence in our country in response to inflamed tensions abroad and all of this. As political leaders have an obligation to turn down the
temperature and not turn it up. I think the Greens have been easily the worst since the start of this conflict were they've sought political advantage out of this with that amped up conflict rather than turned it down with it made basis claims, for example, about Australia's supplying weapons to Israel in this conflict, something that is not factual, And the only reason why you would do that is if you want to roll people up to get take
political advantage out of it. That's irresponsible, that is dangerous and I fear it'll end very badly.
Do you think maybe the Boss of Asia needs to provide a specific security briefing to the Greens, given we are seeing aggression outside the officers of politicians that is dangerous.
In my experienced, security briefings like that are always on offer and always available for those who want to take it up. Whether the Greens would be willing to take up a briefing like that, let alone take out the lessons from that briefing is another question.
All right, James Patterson, really appreciate your time as always, Thank you, Thanks Arry, And coming up after the break, how Elon Musk is turning the NBN satellite business into a white elephant plus the worst of Raygun's academic papers revealed, and they're even more cringeworthy than her break dancing. All of that coming up, Welcome back, well. Elon Musk is
turning the NBN satellite business into a white elephant. Mask's satellite service, Starlink, is providing better Internet service to those in the bush. As many of you watching will know, starlink speed is much faster and it's more reliable than the NBN satellite business. Starlink now has two hundred thousand customers according to figures quoted by The A Trible c And in NBN's latest report, it showed that their satellite customers had crashed by twenty three percent and they were
down to just eighty six thousand customers. It seems they were so embarrassed by being beaten by the take billionaire that they've decided to kill off any notion of transparency. The NBN has stopped its decade long practice of publishing weekly data on their customers. To discuss this, let's bringing now Shadow Communications Minister David Coleman. David, great to see you.
Look.
What do you make of this new lack of transparency from the NBN?
Oh to disgrace Sharhi. So the NBN is getting smashed by Elon Musk. It's creating embarrassing headlines for the NBN and for the government. You led some of the early reporting on that, and that's been followed up by media outlets right across the board. Its satellite business is collapsing. It's also lost about eighty thousand customers from traditional homes, what they call the brownfields business. And so what the NBN has now done is stop publishing a report that
has existed for a decade. And this from a government that was supposedly all about transparency and integrity. It is a disgrace and that report has to be reinstated.
Why do you think it is that Elon Musk's starlink is able to provide much better service than the NBN.
Well, loo, he innovated technically. I mean, he has a track record of doing that across many industries and he's certainly done that with satellite and related space exploration, no question. You know, the government's response, Michelle Rowland's response was to organize a round table of academics. So you know Elon Musk entrepreneur on one side, government round table of academics on the other who's going to win and Elon Musk
is winning. But the issue I think for the public, Shari, is that we deserve to know what is going on in the NBN. It's completely unacceptable for this information to be hidden. This has been around for a decade and they've got to reinstate this and there's further steps we can take if they don't.
Look, we have to ask how much the NBN satellite services continuing to cost taxpayers, given that it's been so quickly outshine by Elon Musk's new technology. I mean, what is the cost of this so far to taxpayers?
Yeah, it's huge, Sharion. The overall cost to the NBN of taxpayers is increasing. So in the last six months that they reported on the NBN's cash loss effectively was one point one billion dollars, which was up by more than four hundred million on the previous period. They're losing
customers because their prices are going up. So satellite broadband prices are up about fourteen percent since October alone, So losing customers, losing money, and now not even giving us the information that we all deserve.
Look, he's far from perfect, Elon Musk and Labor in particular like to paint him as a villain, but you know, to say he's fixing the problem of internet outages in the bush which successive governments haven't been able to do. And we've spoken before about how important it is in times of bushfires or floods or other emergencies. You really do need connectivity just quickly before you go. The Albaneze government looks like it is going to reject cause for a blanket ban on gambling advertising.
Instead, Labors pushing.
Forward with a partial band so it'll be during children's shows and live spots broadcasts. David, do you support do you think there should be a ban on gambling advertising?
Well, look, Sherry were back in May last year, Peter Dutton announced in his Budget reply speech that we would ban gambling advertising during live sport one hour before one hour after. We think that's the right thing to do. Very concerned about the impact of those ads on, especially on kids and family viewing. I mean in terms of what the government's doing, I mean, who knows, mean, it's been going on for so long, we don't have anything
to respond to. Once we do, we'll review it, but we certainly want to see the that ban on live sport advertising and we'll see what the government comes up with and then respond in due courts.
All right, David Coleman, thank you very much.
Great to see you.
Now still to come.
Tony Abbott calls out alban Easy's snub of Woodside, apparently supporting a successful Australian business isn't in line with his green crusade. Plus videos of children break dancing better than Raygun and we'll look at the only thing worse than her Olympic performance, the worst of her woke academic papers that is coming up after this quick break. Welcome back. Well, let's bring in tonight's political panel, Sky News contributor Gary Hargrave and abral MP Zoey Mackenzie. Great to see you both,
Gary and Brisbane, Zoe and Canberra. Well, let's start with Tony Abbott. He's accused Anthony Alberizi and his ministers of snubbing Woodside seventieth anniversary party over the weekend. He says that not even Rezos's minister, Madeline King, a West Australian, attended the celebrations for the gas producer because she was on leave. Tony Abbott said that Gas is our second largest export earner and the only way to ensure that the transition to renewable energy doesn't put the lights out
yet because it's an evil fossil fuel. And he says, yet not a single labor MP could attend this milestone, Zoe, what do you think? Is this a pretty rude snub?
It's extraordinary, right, So you have an entire slate of liberal coalition MP's former prime ministers. They're celebrating this great Australian company, this great export, and no one wants to
turn up because theoretically it's a fossil fuel. I went to COP twenty seven, the one that was held in Egypt a couple of years ago, and I met with parliamentarians across the political spectrum and across the planet, and every single one said to me, oh, climate change and energy, it's been conflicted in Australia, hasn't I said, well, to some extent, yes, but what's your solution, what's your baseload solution?
What keeps the lights on in your country? And to a man and a woman, it was nuclear number one and gas number two. And so there's not a fraud conversation. People just get on with keeping the lights on elsewhere in my own electric in Flinders, do you know how we're powered over summer eight diesel generators. We need to be honest about the energy sources we have now and what we're going to need to power Australian industry in the Australian economy in the future.
Guess has to be part of that.
There's no reason to treat Woodside like it's a leprosy colony.
But Garyot's not only that, As Tony Abbott says, Woodside has paid more than forty billion dollars in federal royalties alone. I mean that's a lot to be grateful for when it comes to the budget and the economy.
Yeah, plus the great ambassadors for Australia and update economies that need our gas. You know, nobody from the Federal Labor Party went along to dealers and biggers. That's the big gathering of all people in all of the resources. So it's not just simply those who are involved in carbon industries, it's all of the resources industry. I mean, I thought Madeline King was a courageous appointment. She's the Minister for Northern Australia and she's in Southwest Western Australia.
This mob are completely out of touched.
It's all about the factions, and it's all about trying to appease those lefty greenee elements who want to kill off carbon. And I'm from Queensland, and just a few hundred kilometers north and northwest of where I am right now is the world's greatest supply of that beautiful black stuff coal, the first four letters of the word coalition. And I'm going to tell you we've got to keep using that coal to keep the power on because Victoria is going to need a lot more diesel generators based
on everything I've seen about its future electricity needs. We just need to produce more and more electricity at cheaper and cheaper prices like we used to do about forty years ago when we were growing our economy. This mob got no idea, no idea.
It all all right.
Let's return to Raygun because in the wake of her viral performance, there are countless videos and now being posted online of children dancing better than our olympian Have a look.
Musca, How good are they?
But the only thing worse than Rachel Gun's break dancing are her woke academic papers. Have a look at Sky News Digital editor Jack Hadden speaking about this.
You've got a person who has forged this very niche career in breaking in breakdancing, and she's trying to high it to colonial structures. Everything's about racialized theory, everything's americanized, the spellings americanized because they need to try and publish in these americanized journals, and so everything has to be about critical race theory. And she somehow managed to tie breakdancing to colonial structures, to being institutionalized, to racism.
All right, And I'm actually going to read you guys a quote from one of her papers, and I mean it's almost unintelligible. She says that we argue that breakings institutionalization via the Olympics will place breaking more firmly within this sporting nations hegemonic settler colonial structures that rely upon racialized and gendered hierarchies. I actually don't know what the hell she's talking about.
How breakdancing can do any of that, Zoe, what do you think? Honestly?
Look, break dancing was always the rogue sport in the Paris Olympics. I remember eight years ago, whenever it was that Paris was selected. I said to my kids, this is it. Kids, learn breakdancing. It's going to be the one where no one's got the gold medals. Go out and learn how to do it. And if they'd taken me seriously, I'll tell you what, there'd be a gold medal in my home today. So, look, I haven't really followed the breakdancing saga. I have to admit it's not
my preferred sport. I'm more of a rower myself, and so I haven't really followed it. But look it was rogue. I'm not sure it'll be back next time given.
The success or. Like they're off this.
I'm not just for us, but everyone. This might be the first and last time we see breakdancing. But I say, girl, Aussie's whatever the sport is. They got up tonight and celebrated for local olympias, my electorate who all did great.
Well, good on them, Good on them.
Gary.
I think ray Gun is going to be the Halloween costume of twenty twenty four. What do you racket And what do you think of those academic papers?
Yeah, the papers frightened me more than anything else. I actually think she's done cultural appropriation. I think she's actually decided to send the whole thing up, and somebody within the Australian Olympic Committee allowed it.
Agun of course, now.
They're so embarrassed by the whole thing they're arguing how great she is. Look, I'm more on the I love Arissa true page, the fourteen year old fourteen in eighty six days, that girl from the Gold Coast won a gold medal. She better get her Order of Australia because otherwise if she doesn't, it'll be ages. They're all meant to get Orders of Australia. I think all of the great Olympians have competed against a lot of other great
Australians to get there, and they've done us proud. Ray Gun was courageous, a courageous choice in Australia's name.
Yeah, indeed, indeed all right do Zoe Mackenzie, Gary Hargrave, Thank you both so much for joining me. Now, up next is the UK Prime Minister turning into Big Brother, how free speech is coming under serious attack and the latest on the violent riots will cross live to Tom Slater
in London right after the break Welcome back Well. Today, Elon Musk had a two hour interview with Donald Trump and more a conversation than an interview on his platform X. In that conversation, Donald Trump vowed to build a missile defense shield similar to the Iron Dome over the United States.
Have a listen.
One of the things we're going to do is we're going to build an iron dome over US.
You know, Israel has it. We're going to have the best iron dome in the world. We need it, and we're going to make it all in the United States.
Well, for more insight on this discussion, that's cross Live to the UK, where Spiked online editor Tom Slater joins me. Now, Tom, good to see you again. Look what did you make of this conversation that went on and on and on between Elon Musk and Donald Trump?
And it's very much kind of election campaigns in the twenty first century, wasn't it? This long, yawning conversation between Donald Trump, the prospective Republican president, and also Elon Musker has recently backed him quite famously. I mean, it was classic Trump. Plenty of braggadoco, plenty of bobbastic statements. I typically like the bit where he said he told once told Ladimir Putin what he would do if Russia invaded Ukraine and Putin said no way, and he said way.
It was you know, it was a wonder of what fantastic entertainment value, if nothing else, that Donald Trump brings all of this. And I think the fact that Elion Musk was doing this was very significant. Is someone who, despite being quite an eccentric and colorful character, was a
kind of moderate Democrat not that long ago. And I think it's telling how far the Democrats have moved away from a lot of moderate positions on a lot of issues that someone like him, for all his eccentricities, is backing Trump so emphatically.
Now, well, you wonder how much would be a business decision of courtus because Donald Trump does have a lot of supporters. But I thought it was extraordinary and I'll probably play this clip on the show tomorrow night that there was a Washington Post reporter at the White House who actually asked the White House Press Secretary, in effect, if she could shut down the conversation before it happened
because it might have misinformation in it. I mean, the idea, this censorship of free speech, and tom that's what I want to speak to you about because in the UK Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has criticized Keir Starmer on free speech. He's saying that he's going too far in his response to the riots, and then it is suppressing free speech.
Have a look what we are allowed to do on social media, or should be allowed to do, is to speculate, is to ask questions, is to trump put facts out. Trump put facts out that wake up the rest of the community. Starmer by cracking down on that poses I think the biggest threat to free speech we've seen in art history.
Tom that is a big accusation. But the Crown Prosecution Servers has tweeted that people should think before they post. So you know, how serious is this threat?
I think it's very serious. Think that Kirstarmer is a classic figure of the British establishment. He seems to blame free speech and social media for absolutely everything that goes wrong in society. The people who rule over us think that censorship is the only thing between civilization and barbaras. We've seen that in the response. We've seen, as you say,
government Twitter accounts saying think before you post. We've had the Chief Prosecutor going on the air to say that not only our official scouring the internet, but even retweets of potentially hateful or inciting material could potentially land you in one of those fetching gray prison tracksuits that we have. And the one thing I would say is that this is not about Kirstarmer introducing any kind of new laws. He's putting a bit of pressure on the authorities and
what not to speed up prosecutions. But this has been an unpleasant sort of normal state of affairs for the UK for quite some time now. Back in twenty seventeen, The Times the newspaper found that nine people a day were being arrested for things that they said online. And I think it's a reminder that however odious, hateful, racist, some of the speech that we might encounter on the internet.
In asking the States all the social media companies to act as a kind of ministry of truth or as an official censor, will corrode everyone's free speech and the name of just targeting that kind of bigoted few if you want, And.
That is precisely what's also happening in Australia as well, and it is scary. Look, let's have a quick look at the riots before we go. There was horror in central London yesterday, an eleven year old girl and her mother stabbed. Keir Starmer has had to cancel his summer holiday plans to deal with these riots.
What do we know?
You know, what happened with this incident with the mother and the girl and do we expect the riots to continue?
So information about this particular incident is pretty scant on the ground at the moment. There's also very little we could say because of the fact that charges have been brought and so on. What we do know from the police they don't believe it to be terror related. I don't think they believe this person to be known to the family in question. And there's also been a lot of praise for a security on Leicester Square who intervened to stop the attack getting any worse than it was.
So that's a kind of an early stage. How much that connects to our broader conversation, not entirely sure, but it seemed like across the country, at least for now, the riots of sort of debated, and we're now looking at getting into a discussion of how we got into this position in the first place.
All right. Indeed, Tom Slater, thank you so much for your time, and thanks everyone for your company. Tonight. I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock. And right now, here's Paul in the man Cave.