This week the guys give more tempered takes on the lay of the WWE land including the news that HHH has taken over creative. Plus the fallout from ROH and the Jonathan Gresham/Tully Blanchard situations. Then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: SummerSlam Preview, Mox/Rush, Danielson/Garcia, promos by Jungle Boy/Wheeler Yuta and Anna Jay (AS) and the implosion of Team Taz Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-podcast-wwe-nxt-njpw/donations Advertising I...
Jul 31, 2022•1 hr 18 min
The dangers of recording on Friday. An hour ago, Vince McMahon stepped down from WWE, Brock Lesnar left Smackdown, and HHH is now EVP of Talent Relations. We also talk the Briscoes to ROH, AQA and Biff Busick taking time off and Jake Atlas finishing rehab. Then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Titus opening Raw, Barbed Wire Everywhere, Tyrus and the NWA, Luchasaurus re-turns? the awesomeness of Brody King/ Darby, the 9:20-9:40 death spot, Fuego Del Sol and Dax's promos and MORE! Support th...
Jul 23, 2022•1 hr 18 min
STR this week, Jeff gives a mostly positive update on his cancer battle, and Chris is tired of him milking it. Then after Jeff declares war on mom and pop convenience stores, we talk Raw going TV-14 and what our jaundiced view tells us, All Out instantly sells out, and the Grizzled Young Veterans get new names. Then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: the Cora Jade turn, having friends in wrestling storylines and why its a good thing, a mild debate over Wardlow and Orange Cassidy, do title el...
Jul 16, 2022•1 hr 15 min
This week, Jeff got a little stir crazy post-cancer surgery so with all apologies to being a bit low energy, why not do a show? He shares an update on his health, and the heartfelt song Chris wrote for him while recovering. Then we jump into Vince McMahon and NDAs, NJPW in America, talent and injury updates and a LAZY RIVER OF PRO WRESTLING CRITICISM: ICE COLD TAKES on Money in the Bank, Christian Cage promos, NXT Great American Bash, quick hits on things Jeff liked, the Matt Menard promo and th...
Jul 10, 2022•1 hr 13 min
This week as Jeff tries to give an update of health, Chris gets his plugs in, and then we talk WWE signings and AEW goings. Then a long LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Cold takes on Forbidden Door, review of Blood and Guts, and a preview of Money in the Bank. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-podcast-wwe-nxt-njpw/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy...
Jul 01, 2022•1 hr 2 min
This week we celebrate air conditioning. In the news, Tim White, more on Stephanie becoming acting CEO, HHH "is back," Muto's retirement tour, Ric Flair's "retirement" match and more. Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Forbidden Door, Christian Cage, Elias/Ezekiel, Omos/Riddle and more! Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-podcast-wwe-nxt-njpw/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle....
Jun 25, 2022•1 hr 20 min
This week, Vince McMahon. A lot of Vince. the Wall Street Journal reports on Vince and his NDAs, stepping down except still running creative, Vince and Oliver Luck. Jeff Hardy's drunk driving arrest, Dave Hebner passes away, Tony Khan blows off media opportunities, and Mutoh wants five final matches. Then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Is Forbidden Door a supercard? What's the story told? And a lot of meandering, but Jeff watched Starrcade 85 this week so he liked something. Support this...
Jun 18, 2022•1 hr 12 min
This week we ask who wants to be a main eventer, as CM Punk and Cody go down with injuries and Roman won't be on yet another PPV. Then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Good Wrestling and Bad Storytelling, NXT having a good upside but bad storytelling, AEW having bad storytelling. Sense a theme? Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-podcast-wwe-nxt-njpw/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redci...
Jun 11, 2022•58 min
This week we talk the MJF promo to start, and why everything it did overshadowed what should have been Wardlow's coming out. Then the news including Sammy and Tay getting engaged, a Ric Flair documentary, wrestlers getting cast in movies and of course our LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Ice Cold Takes on Double or Nothing, what's entertaining Jeff in WWE, and previews of Hell in a Cell and NXT: In Your House. Also, Chris makes a pitch for "The Whacker." Support this podcast at — https://redci...
Jun 04, 2022•1 hr 13 min
This week, we have parking grievances, then get into the news: Naomi/Sasha vs. WWE, MITB gets downsized, Kota Ibushi isn't happy and weddings! Then, the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: NXT 2.0 ends with constructive criticism, the Page/Punk go home: are people making sense in their heads and the Double or Nothing preview Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-podcast-wwe-nxt-njpw/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy &...
May 27, 2022•1 hr 8 min
This week, we talk Sasha and Naomi walking out, Stephanie taking a sabbatical, Nicole Savoy retiring, television upfronts, the in-ring return of Ric Flair and PWG booking Chris' favorite wrestler and their first women's match since 2011. Plus, the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM in which we talk of all the things the Patriotic Wrestling Federation, and a lot of AEW Dynamite: The perfection of Wardlow/MJF, the great match of Page/Takeshita, Serena Deeb and JAS/Regal promos and why, contrary to ...
May 21, 2022•1 hr 23 min
This week the boys talk Roman Reigns new deal, Kota Ibushi wanting out of his deal, goings on in Turner, and more in the news. Then, THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Backlash ice cold takes; WWE's good wrestling but bad storytelling; great stuff on AEW; Dax Harwood's very good year; Lacey Evans' story being a swerve; was Darby/Hardy in poor taste given who was in the audience, and more deep questions about a not so deep subject. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ro...
May 14, 2022•59 min
This week we talk George Perez and MULTIVERSES! NXT Cuts, contracts expiring, Freddie Prinze Jr, Tessa Blanchard, WWE Q1, injury updates and tv deals. Then a Backlash preview, then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Trent's promo on Rampage, the really good of W Morrissey and Adam Page, the bad of Dynamite: presentation of women, Jeff Hardy; Jeff watched DEFY, the good and bad of NXT Spring Break and the ugly of NXT UK. Plus as the title says, Chris hates farmers. Support this podcast at — h...
May 08, 2022•1 hr 26 min
We record early on a Friday as it's Jeff's birthday (and then the NXT cuts came, so we'll get to that next week). So instead we talk Bret Hart might still be part of the Owen, COVID hits NJPW and WWE, Discovery and if AEW, and Becky Lynch's thoughts on AEW's women's division. We then transition into the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Was Dynamite a bit formulaic? WWE's character shifts with no explanation, Cash/Dax, Sky/Sammy, Gacy and his Druids, W. Morrissey, Shida/Deeb and more! Support t...
Apr 29, 2022•1 hr 14 min
This week the guys talk Tony Khan's Forbidden Door, Bret Hart re-signing with WWE, talent leaving WWE and AEW, new names, and a discussion of what is the point of NXT 2.0 if they aren't doing the mission statement? Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: A discussion of hate in promos, and why WWE's characterization of babyfaces forces the issue to turn them heel; Jade vs. Marina; the randomness of NXT character choices, good comedy and bad promos in wrestling this week, and MORE!. Support t...
Apr 23, 2022•1 hr 20 min
This week the boys talk all the news including Shinjiro Otani, the UK Stadium show, and Vince issues a memo about names. Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Week two of the Cody Rhodes story in WWE and Wheeler Yuta in AEW; is Marina Shafir the person to dethrone Jade after her debut on Wednesday; the greatness of the MJF/Dean match; did NXT lose sight of what made Cameron Grimes popular and much much more. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-pod...
Apr 16, 2022•1 hr 3 min
This week we talk the release of Nash Carter, Tony Khan's campaign about online criticism, then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM! This week: the boys gush about FTR, then ICE COLD TAKES on Wrestlemania weekend and the NXT show, talking about the terrible follow ups on television. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-podcast-wwe-nxt-njpw/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy...
Apr 09, 2022•1 hr 22 min
This week Chris and Jeff discuss the death of Rocky King, the WWE/Fanatics deal, the Steiners going into the Hall of Fame and then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Toni Storm, FTR as babyfaces, Vince McMahon's merchandise, Mania ticket sales and previews of NXT: Stand and Deliver and both nights of Wrestlemania. Plus: artists whose work you hate but you think are great human beings, and what exactly is The Burlington Trip? Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pr...
Apr 02, 2022•1 hr 34 min
This week we talk AEW star building, HHH retiring from the ring, and Toni Storm's OnlyFans. Then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM about the Mania build, acting notes on the promos this week, opining on cheap heat, and a moment of silence for Duke Hudson's chest (and more!) Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-podcast-wwe-nxt-njpw/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy...
Mar 26, 2022•1 hr 18 min
This week, the boys talk the life of the late Scott Hall and opine on his complicated legacy; Tony Khan wanting to bring back ROH as a television show, and WWE meets MLW in court about Court. Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: The build to Wrestlemania, Happy Brock, Austin Theory, Sports Entertainers, the Butcher, and sheer competency being welcome on NXT 2.0 Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-podcast-wwe-nxt-njpw/donations Advertising Inquiri...
Mar 21, 2022•1 hr 19 min
This week the guys give an update on Big E, talk the Hall of Fame inductions of Sid and Vader, and other minor news. Then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Revolution, FTR/Tully, the Pat McAfee video and more! Plus, yes, we talk about Pete Dunne. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-podcast-wwe-nxt-njpw/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy...
Mar 12, 2022•1 hr 27 min
This week we discuss AEW buying ROH, WWE and Russia, and compare the problems with AEW Media Call and the Pat McAfee and Vince McMahon interview as being the two sides of whatever the hell "wrestling media" means (go listen to Lanza's rant on the Flagship). Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: AEW Revolution Preview with our analysis of Dynamite, what the hell is NXT letting their women do each other, and Jeff gushes about the tag team of Gordy and Snuka. Support this podcast at — https:/...
Mar 05, 2022•1 hr 26 min
The boys talk all the comings and goings in WWE and AEW, then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: the awesome MJF promo, the debut of Nikkita Lyons, and how JR almost tanked the House of Black. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-podcast-wwe-nxt-njpw/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy...
Feb 27, 2022•1 hr 11 min
This week, we talk all things Cody Rhodes. Well, Jeff does and Chris tries to be made to care. But, Jeff makes the case that it's a loss for AEW and why some of the popular narratives of what Cody is going to do may not make sense. Then, we preview the show in Saudi Arabia, which devolves in tasteless jokes. Then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: The Creed Brothers, the two Adams, John Creese, GUNTHER, and more! Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-...
Feb 19, 2022•1 hr 21 min
This week we celebrate the 500th episode and 8th anniversary of Shake Them Ropes. Candy Devine, Rok-C and AEW signings are the news, so we do a lot of LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Naomi/Charlotte, Grizzled Young Veterans, Heel Celebrations, FTR vs. Moxley and Punk! A show plagued by a demon in Chris's computer that would not relent, but we got through it. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-podcast-wwe-nxt-njpw/donations Advertising Inquiries: htt...
Feb 12, 2022•1 hr 12 min
This week, the boys talk talk ONE BILLION DOLLARS, Shane McMahon, Brian Kendrick and the former Mojo Rawley. Also the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Ice Cold Takes on the Royal Rumble, MJF/Punk, the odd promos of Jericho and Dan Lambert/Brandi Rhodes, is Madcap Moss funny? Also, the highs of this week's Rampage. Plus, Jeff tells you why he won't be trash talking about the Super Bowl and about his trip to Kansas City. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestl...
Feb 05, 2022•1 hr 28 min
This week, the boys talk WWE/Disney, Lio Rush and the WWE calling people for the Rumble. Then our award winning 2022 Royal Rumble preview and why the hell can't this company build up the talent and build up the event? We end with THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Adam Page, MJF, the TNT Ladder Match, and MORE. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-podcast-wwe-nxt-njpw/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out...
Jan 29, 2022•1 hr 29 min
The boys talk Meat Loaf and his connection to the WWE, Sami Zayn re-signing, Mutilation, NXT Dress Codes, Gunther Stark and all the other news. Plus THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM! This week: Is this the least anticipated Rumble in memory/the lack of babyfaces in WWE, what the hell is worth watching in AEW, Lance Archer, Shawn Spears and Chris Reads About Raw! Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-podcast-wwe-nxt-njpw/donations Advertising Inquirie...
Jan 22, 2022•1 hr 14 min
Shake Them Ropes this week Chris and Jeff talk the MLW lawsuit, Saudi Arabia, signings, and the rest of the news. Plus THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Impact Women, Chris Reads about Raw, storytelling in AEW, character development in NXT, the FTR/Briscoes twitter feud. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-podcast-wwe-nxt-njpw/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy...
Jan 15, 2022•56 min
This week, the guys talk the busiest week in wrestling history, from the falling out of Big Swole and Tony Khan and finishing with Impact's Hard to Kill. Seven plus days of wrestling news: Sasha Banks, Wrestle Kingdom, Day 1, NXT New Years Evil and the cuts the next day. All of it. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/shake-them-ropes-pro-wrestling-podcast-wwe-nxt-njpw/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy...
Jan 09, 2022•1 hr 12 min