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May 07, 202659 minSeason 13Ep. 417
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On this episode of The Prophets, Kev and Rashad reveal their top 28 WNBA players heading into the season. The guys debate the massive drop for Arike Ogunbowale, why Paige Bueckers made one of the biggest leaps on the list, and why the top tier still belongs to A’ja Wilson, Napheesa Collier, and Breanna Stewart.

Later, the conversation shifts to the teams as Kev breaks down his WNBA tiers and explains why he’s extremely high on the Los Angeles Sparks this season. Rashad dives into why he loves the moves made by the Dallas Wings and how their future could arrive faster than people think. The guys also discuss why the New York Liberty should be the favorites to win it all, which teams are being overlooked, and where the biggest disagreements landed across the rankings.

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

It's running beast.

Speaker 3

He ain't no fun in that.

Speaker 1

You have the something about to start.

Speaker 2

So we'll hope you know your stats and Kell get it wrong and with shots gonna have his best with the facts matter the fact, No, we do with safe. When wings wings conge, they should say, hey me, raise the fakes, wings losses the latest news.

Speaker 1

What for kim speak, You got him saying welcome, appreciated, preach what was shot number seting another sermon? Catch wild car Sports and wild call TV for shot Man. We admit it to our w NBA preview show. What's going on?

Speaker 4

Man? Hey man, one of our favorite times of the year. We got NBA playoffs going. We're in second round w NBA. We've definitely gotta catch some games. It's gonna be a fun season. Man. A lot of a lot of stuff transpired last year we got we'll get into the aces and the history they could made, man, So let's get into it. Man.

Speaker 3

We can go with players, we can go with teams. We got a lot of Colvin all.

Speaker 1

Right, So yeah, we we have revealed our top WBA players. We got the top twenty eight, and then what what we do is work. We'll work. You want to start at one, he wants go twenty eight. Yeah, it said when you want to start, you wanna start the top, go from twenty to one.

Speaker 4

Let me start from the bottom and go work our way up because I mean, you know the top people are we going to ride?

Speaker 1

The base will come in at all, right, So let's let's let's uh, let's knock out like four or five at a time. At number twenty eight, we going to Riquee from Dallas Wings, twenty seven, Veronica Burton from Golden State Valkyrie. At twenty six, we got Marina Maybry Toronto Tempo. Number twenty five we got Sonya sent Tron Washington Mystics. In twenty four Courtney Williams from Minnesota Links and then

twenty three Kyle McBride, also from Minnesota Link. So with those team, any of those girls stick out to you?

Speaker 2

Uh?

Speaker 4

Maybury, man, I like that pick cup, you know, I know we gotta let expansion going on and stuff like that.

Speaker 3

But Maybury's a solid player.

Speaker 4

Man.

Speaker 3

She could depend upon.

Speaker 4

The year she has, she could probably submit herself in top twenty five.

Speaker 3

But I like I like Maybriy a lot. I mean, of course you like fine ship.

Speaker 1

Come on out, shout out, shout out of most improved player Veronica by Hey, stud Man Hey off on and off the court, she's uh. She was the top four assists last year. Like I said, most improved and if she improved efficiency, we're talking about, you know, one of the best point guards in the game. I'm gonna go with at that out of that group and we'll talk. We'll talk about this team later. But I'm you know, I'm I live closer to the Washington Mystics and Sonia

sent traw Man. She has the ability to, you know, be the wing on this team who kind of lacking little guard play, got a big front court, but she can tie everything together. Hey, missus. Could be a fun team to watch, could upset some people. Could be a surprise team, depending on her development and the rest of her young team's development.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, Burton was most improved last year. She was second on all defense and she finished in the top team for MVP. And that was just with well six and four being her averages. Again, like you said, I mean from the free throw line, she's deadly a seven eight eight percent, but the field goal percent we got to get that U thirty eight percent will not cut it. We see it around forty three to forty six, you know as an improvement. You know, if you get a

little bit above that, you're talking elite territory. But at least around forty three to forty six would be an ideal. But she's only in year five, so still run to improve.

Speaker 1

Let's go to number twenty two. We got Handy from the Sparks. We got Chelsea Gray at number twenty one from the Las Vegas Aces, number twenty. Injuries probably our biggest follower, number nineteen to and then eighteen John Quilte Jones, So we got Injuries who didn't make the top top twenty five last year. She's now our top twenty. Chelsea Gray, the point god, the one on one unrival tournament winner. And then you got you got new or Liberty with two girls and John quilt Jones in a big addition

to Saballe. So your thoughts on that group.

Speaker 4

Angel Rees traded to the Dream I think that's a nice move for them. She's let the league in rebounding two years in that she's latest and she came into the league. So I know all the jokes flying she's rebounding for herself, but hey, she's still leading the leading in rebounds man so on a team with people will get into later with Ryan Howard and those other girls, I think she will be She shouldn't make All Star again, well she league and rebounding again, I'm not sure, but

I won't doubt her. But yeah, I think she will be solid. The only thing really for me is can she can improve her offensive game? You know, you want to shoot the ball a little bit better and things of that nature. And then Hamby, I mean, Canby's been in the league with like eleven twelve years now, and I still think she's one of the most underrated players

in the league. I think she's super super underrated. She well, she had like an eighteen and eight year last year before that, I was seventeen and nine, like she's been.

Speaker 3

She was with second for it most improved the year.

Speaker 4

Before, and then last year she was also it was like a little nice little tie for ninth I think eighth or ninth place for MVP votes. So she had a solid season individually last year. So yeah, Hanby, I still think it's one of the most underrated players in the league. But she has one SITS One of the Year twice, you know, earlier in her career. But right now she's more of a defined starter, but still super super underrated. Man.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I think she she plays better when she's next to uh another another front court player her in the early days with Agan Wilson. Then you talk about the addition of Cam and bring back and the addition to

inn On on her team. Uh So we'll see how she might have easier baskets now, right with the four headed team around her, especially with the addition of Kelsey Plumb last season, the Sabala drop not necessarily saying that she's no longer capable of being that top five player that she was two years ago in our list, but just the injuries and all that kind of stuff. But then I think this year, somebody gotta take a back seat. This is a This is a big four, right, this

is a big four. We only named two girls. John quad Jones are former MVP institute institute here who was the first team on NBA two years ago, first Team All the w b A two years ago. And somebody gotta take a back seat. And I don't know who's that going to be. Is that Stuid, is that Sabrino. Somebody got to take a back seat for this to all the work, because she was what a big part of that offensive for Phinnis Mercury last season. So not saying that she's nineteenth, she had potential to be a

top five went healthy so any given day. So, yes, she fell down here in our list this year, but I see herself getting back up there toward the end of the season.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and we're going through like our average out lists.

Speaker 4

On the individual list, I had her I think eleven or twelve. I had her rank pretty high, and to me deliberty, they're going to be a team to be reckoned with because they do have Stuie, who's gonna probably on a mission Sabrina John Quill answer to, so, I think she will have a good year because she will have a more defined role.

Speaker 3

Yeah, she averaged sixteen last year.

Speaker 4

I don't see any reason why she can't average sixteen to eighteen again, because you could probably ask Sabrina to be more a facilitator and she may get into a double digitalsist category and lower maybe lower her scoring a little bit or even John Quill, Like John Quill's a double double potentially, but you can ask you can ask one them to sacrific some of their games.

Speaker 3

So yeah, so too, just be a strictly offensive for us.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I would say definitely. John Quill is going to just be that monster inside rebound the basketball and then she's gonna have her games where she might win you a game in the playoff series when it comes down to it. Right, So you're a liberty man with those two girls at eighteen nineteen got a good uh, got good? We have we have still got two more people for today with them. Let's go number seventeen. One of my favorite players in the basket in basketball is Gabby Williams,

a teammate of Ronica Burton. So you got sixteen, you got Copper for Phoenix Mercury. Fifteen, you got Skylar Diggins Smith. Uh. At fourteen, he got nick A Good McKay. In thirteen we got Ryan Howard. So in that list, these are

bucket getters. Of course you got gave me. Williams was more of a you know, probably in my opinion, the the best defensive wing in the business of one of the best two way players in the in the game, and you got Skylar Diggess, who's the captain, right, So she go to that scott team with a new direction and you got you got some bucke getters.

Speaker 4

Man.

Speaker 1

I know, I know, I know you you're a big Horard fan. Uh So what do you think about her season this year?

Speaker 4

Ryan Howard had a really really good year last year playoffs wise, the Dream didn't get to where I thought they could have gotten to, but they had a very very solid year and Gambiel Williams.

Speaker 3

I would probably put her second behind handby as most underrated in the league. She had a really good year last year.

Speaker 4

I think she was first team All Defense and she was probably what should have forced for or something like that.

Speaker 1

She came in third. And then whatever league she plays in France, she was the physical play of the year over there, uh in this off season, So no matter what country, she's strapping.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 3

So I think she's still super league and steals last year.

Speaker 4

So but she's still to me somewhat underrated just because of what she does.

Speaker 3

But yeah, I think she can be.

Speaker 4

She could probably seeing up this list of her offense goes up a little bit more, honestly, Yeah, because She's a solid two way, but if her offense goes up, just just a nude, she could go up this.

Speaker 3

List some more and set her around Like the lower twenties.

Speaker 4

You were high on her than me. I think you had her fourteen something like that. So you're so you know from your you don't think she's underrated, But I still think she's kind of underrated. I want to see her shoot the three ball better, like if her me arranged or her three improves, I think she can definitely fault up its list to some capacity.

Speaker 1

And she was a half court shot from taking gold from Team USA, so she she has the ability to put somebody put a team on her back. I like the Indy k Man. I like her going to Sparks Man, that is a good addition, bro, Like she's this is you're talking about Vet the funny Party. We still her sister all the time because she's been retired for a

long time. These girls, these girls, she's like thirty five years old with left Sparks go to Seattle, still dominates and comes back and we still have a ring high. She failed in our rankings from last season, but not too far of a drop. But I like her addition to this team. We talked about him, he talked about Kelsey Plump and it's a veteran team with the little mix of youth and the camping brinks of the world.

So I like indyk Man, she still has it. She still has it, not I don't know what she's gonna lose. She kind of like if you know, mother Tom is on the feet over here, she's defined all odds there, all lotos continue down the list. Number twelve. It got Kelsey Mitchell from the Fever, number eleven, and Leah Boston number ten, Kelsey Plumber just mentioned number nine, Alicia Gray and from from Atlanta Dreaming, then number eight Jackie Young ass.

Speaker 4

Bro. We got Eli Boston and Mitchell basically friends top ten and depending put who you asked, they could be in the top ten.

Speaker 3

I mean you did put Alijah at what I said seven or eight.

Speaker 4

So I mean you're talking about we haven't even gotten to Kitlin Clark here, but you're talking about Clark, Kelsey, and Boston. At minimum you have three of the top fifteen. I would be comfortable saying three of the top twelve. If Kelsey doesn't get her, who knows how the that series plays out because her body locked up and she couldn't do anything. So if she doesn't get hurt, who

knows how that plays out. But her, Yeah, she's an offensive threat from every angle, lea Boston double double, solid defensive player. So when we get into like the team aspect, the Fever will definitely be a team to be recking with.

Speaker 3

Hopefully everybody can stay healthy this year.

Speaker 4

Kelsey plumb Man old, faithful, Bruh, she's still in that bucket range Man shout out plumb Man.

Speaker 1

Hey, you talk about a walking bucket college outside of Clark passing her plumb was, Plumb was number one there. She's still a certified bucket here. She was top five n WB last year, almost twenty points a game. He round up. Hey, I'm a big flight of the I

still don't I guess. I guess we never dug into like why the whole situation between the three teen trade that got her to La Boyd to the Aces and the story will getting pick But she come here and this team has what it takes building blocks right and now a healthy, revamped team here. We should see her lead this team to the playoffs. Are hoping and when you're talk sim player I expected to be the playoffs.

Speaker 4

Man, I know we just saw Jason Tatum what he did. We all still kd his promps. But Kelsey Plumb and this is gonna be year six from her Achilles. Bro Shorty's still dominating then an All Star basically ever since she came back. I mean average fifteen, twenty, eighteen, seventeen, and nineteen and a half last year, and she's been basically around four to five assists every year. So for the women's side, which we don't you know, people get hurt, but we don't look at it like that.

Speaker 3

But for her to come back off an Achilles on the.

Speaker 4

Women's side and to be doing what she's doing, I got slew her for that.

Speaker 3

And we mentioned we just mentioned that could that us back in l A.

Speaker 4

So that's gonna be a nice veteran duo along with bringing some other players.

Speaker 3

Man, the Stars might be a team to be reckoned with.

Speaker 1

Hey, and you know, you know, you know how I'm going to shout out at first Team All NBA number nine, Lisha Gray on our list from Waco. Hey, this well, I mean, when when you when you left handed right the James Heartener of the world Alicia Gray. It's kind of hard to it's kind of hard to stop you like whatever it is. So in this in this system, Hey, when this system, when they shoot a lot of threes, Hey, she gonna get them up. She gonna be efficient at it.

One of the best players, and she shows you last year what she can do, you know, with with with the right coaching staff, with the right people around her. You talked about right Howard earlier on our list, and uh and now you're added Angel Reese, who was going to help you know the inside game and getting rebound, so she might have more opportunities to get more shots up. So hey, shut out, shout out, to shoutout. Leacha grade Man definitely a Georgia legend down there for wakem. Let's

go take you down the list. We got number seven, Sabrina Escu from Liberty, Kitlyn Clark number six for Indiana Fever. We got Lyta Thomas still number five for the Mercury Page, Beggers at four, Brianna Stewart at three defeast A Collier still we don't care at number two, and of course the best player in basketball, Agan Wilson from the Aces. So that top seven we kind of I mean we

had Page what fifteen is sixteen? But before she played a game and we got her up here, so I thought, individually, I have Clark higher than Page, you have Page higher than Clark. So we all had that back and forth. But little Thomas is pisciled in both of us top five, so that's why she gets the nod over that. Not really too much England moving for us for the top three. Colliers is injured, so if you want to knock her a little bit or what are you gonna do for

this this list, she'll be back. She'll be back soon. But it's just a consistency, right of Asia Wilson call, here's three we know we're gonna get from them. We know the team is gonna be elite, and we know one of them gonna be in the finals and trying to take it home the title. So that's that's why they top three still. And then you know our favorite debate man Page the Kaitlin that's gonna be the talk

of the town for the next what decade? And you know, wish the w B a need that we kind of need, and I know the media is kind of driven the uh the fuel, but we need it right to grow the game.

Speaker 4

Asia Wilson having the greatest prime ever. I wouldn't debate any claims against her being to go. If she retired today, this would be like Mike retiring ninety three. What else can she do sid to just get some longevity awards and stats? What what else can she do is she's one titles regular season in the finals, me be first team all the w BNBA, I mean, defensive Player of the Year or what else can you ask an Asia to do outside of just.

Speaker 3

Put up some longe of these stats.

Speaker 4

So I look at her from the women's side as like Mike Jordan in ninety three years, she walked away from the game right now say I'm going to go have kids or whatever whatever I've done it that I came to do. If she said that, she would probably go down as if not one, for sure in the top two or three as the greatest women players ever. In my opinion, the season call your head last year for her to get hurt at the end and I

did to finish it really felt bad for her. So I think her being at two is justified until I see a precipitous drop or someone else's incredibly ascends, she'll probably always be at two or three. For me, I

think Stewe's gonna have a bounce back year. I think Stewie could be MVP this year based upon her in the visual line, plus the team success could be there unless as we mentioned, Sabali and Sabrina and John Quilters kind of like Rob Her on the stat side, I think Stewart could be an MVP contingent along with if if her team does great. I think Page in year two could be or at least Page would be an

MVP consideration. I mean, her rookie year was dominant, and I think she will only continue to build upon that. So and Clark. I rate Clark. I had Clark number four last year. I put Umber eighth this year. Her officiency was in the game she played last year, her officiency was down team US stay.

Speaker 3

She looked good, but then she got a little nicked.

Speaker 4

Up in the preseason, So of course I'll bought her back up. Once she gets ten or fifteen games in, it looks like her old self again because she's gonna be a double dobe, but she will probably be around eighteen and eight, So if she does that within like the first ten to fifteen games. I'll used to put her back in the top six along with at age and you know Asia Callers still leading.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm a clerk. I'm always gonna be a clark stand uh. And she just I think she's just gonna impact the game. I think when you have a bucket getter and Kelsey Mitchell you added uh and we talked about Boston on defense side, she can get that playmaking ability this team. This I mean her, her assistant should go up because she got talented talent around her. So that's our list, our top twenty top twenty eight. Shout out to that list. So let's get to the

teams really quickly. For shall let's let's change gears. So I'm gonna let's go backwards. Let's go from kind of to the bottom of the top. I kind of want to get the teams out the way that needs some work, right. So we're talking about and obviously we got we probably got different tiers. So if if we don't agree, just just just tell me what you think. But my tier five, I got five tiers. Tier five. The teams that I think are wiped down my Tier four and Tier five

are very very close in gap. I just think the Tier four teens are a little bit better. Tier five have the Connecticut Son who will be human, the Houston Commerce next year, and then the Portland Fire, the expansion team outside of baby Hot Quiz from U c l A. Uh, the Sun going young. They got they got, They got u u c l A players over there too. I don't believe they're gonna reach their win total. Fever is right now, the Fever is not Fever Fire ten games, nine and a half over over nine and a half

in the Sun is eleven eleven and a half. So I'm taking the under on both of those, or it could be right there at that number. It is gonna it's kind of hard to do, kind of hard to do it, but we got a lot of teams to kind of stacked a lot, and I don't think they have any chances against those teams.

Speaker 4

Yeah, the Sun won eleven games last year. They don't probably be around the same amount this year. They have Olivia o'donna. I think she will.

Speaker 3

Probably have a good year.

Speaker 1

Somebody gotta emerge.

Speaker 3

They paid Brittany Grinder, she got a nice little bad to come out there.

Speaker 1

Get your money, girl.

Speaker 4

They got man, what's your last name? Alissa to Morrow. Let's see what she does in two year two? I think, yeah you two? So yeah, man, this is just gonna be uh yeah for his team, man, get you yeah. I don't really have much expectations. Man, if they win ten, they won to level last year. They could just win ten or twelve again, that's that's.

Speaker 3

A good year.

Speaker 1

Portland Fire got this, uh this new style of offense they got going on. It's more that's not predicated on place. So we'll see how that unfold. I think this is gonna be the worst team in basketball. But hey, again, expanded team trying to get better. So my my Tier four team is the tempo Toronto Temple and the Connecticut's not Seattle Storm. Now we'll talk about Seattle Storm having the number two pick in the draft. Uh, deciding to

go all with fam over Olivia Mouse. Somehow get flow J Johnson in the trade, and uh, now you have a nice front court sixty four and sixty six. And on top of that, you have potential a potential player who could be a franchise player in flo if she can live through the hype. Right she case, she's a fan favorite. They already got a nickname for and everything. And then if if the two bigs continue to get better as they're they're young, because they're from overseas, they

have growth. It'd be fun to watch them, you know what I'm saying. But I don't think there's gonna mount anything. They're over under fourteen and a half, and then the Toronto Tempo is fifteen and a half. But I like the Britney Sykes, the Marina Maybury over there. They drafted our girl Kicky Rice, so I'm a I'm a fan of that. That guard play probably one of the best back courts, uh, you know from from from young and older.

So I'm interested what they're gonna do. But they're over unders fifteen and a half, so they'll be seen that they'll probably get the fifteen.

Speaker 4

Bro Seattle lost their top five scores, but they lost Yappy skylard Erico.

Speaker 3

Wheeler and it's there for a little while.

Speaker 4

So basically your your top five scores in free agency, man, So you're thinking quick, man, that's like around like sixty something points you lost about you know, basically, we just say you lost probably like seventy five and a percent of your offense get.

Speaker 1

The shots up.

Speaker 3

So yeah, and my longa that mean the game is yours, man, The game.

Speaker 1

Is you see. I think that I think if you, if you, if you told me I can get I don't know about I think I would have. I would have got alive your mouths and then got ain't, got ain't, got flower in that tree.

Speaker 2

Like.

Speaker 1

I think that would have been a great uh way to start the franchise. But hey, all the family is nice, man, so I can't take nothing from that.

Speaker 3

So this year it might be my longer because she was going crazy.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah she was, and yeah she was dunking everywhere every game.

Speaker 4

She was going crazy around. So for most improved player in the W it might be heard that's an early candidate. Of course you see how ear plays out, but that's an early candidate right there.

Speaker 1

So here's my here's my tier three, and I'm not gonna mention you know who's in playoffs yet. So my tier three is the biggest tier Dallas Wings, Golden State, val Kyree, Washington, Mystic, Chicago, Sky, Phoenix, Mercury. That's my Tier three team. The teams who I think are fighting for that that five to eight playoff spots. Can we get Can we get it? Depending on how things shake out. Healthiness, I'll talk about I'll talk about mystics. I think it was crazy. I still think it's crazy to to keep

Austin in draft bets. But Austin's been here, healthy, she's she's she's my favorite crash out.

Speaker 2

Uh.

Speaker 1

But with her Lauren Bett's keikey, you're talking about a dominant front court that everybody's gonna be mad in hell to play against, because you're not gonna You're not gonna score on Lauren. I'm gonna keep saying this forever. Lauren best is the It's gonna be the best official player. They won, was like, this is this, this is my winby over here coming in the game. They're gonna change the game. And I think keykey ascension because she's a

she's a champion, and Austin continue to get better. We talked about central and she got to twenty eight lists and Rashard my favorite player that was a star in college, Georgia More. Hey, we got all the everybody else tall on you five seven. It's time to go to work. So I think three point shooting will be there their Achilles hill. But I love the team I'm I'm a Lauren Besttan so we I like the mystics. I'm not gonna say playoffs per per se, but that's the team

I do. I do look at U with all the youth, the biggest hell and I think have a chance to make a playoffs if they go right.

Speaker 3

But all that could go against them. Too much?

Speaker 1

You too much you?

Speaker 4

How do you manage the playing time for this front court because Key, Key, Austin and Bets.

Speaker 3

I don't know how you get all of that to coexist.

Speaker 1

Hey, Minnesota to move crap right, Yeah.

Speaker 3

I don't know how you get all that where. They're the youngest team in the league, so I don't.

Speaker 4

I don't know, man, From the last two years, they have one, two, three, four, five, basically six first rounders.

Speaker 3

Hey, but hey, but I don't know.

Speaker 1

Man they got But they got the first rounders, you know what I mean? Like like the like like like it's okay when you when you got Anthony Bennett and Trustan Thompson top five picks, but they got d picks. Kiki Lauren, I like them all, so I'm not I don't think my expectations will be they could go play the links on any given day and beat them, or they can go play the Dream or any given day and beat them. But they're probably gonna have more lapses than the other way, you know what I mean. So

I just like I like the team. I still the question the Austin move, but hey, they know better than me, right.

Speaker 3

They're gonna be fun to watch. All we can say.

Speaker 4

They got Centron, Kiki, Austin Betts because Georgia toward a cl she'll be back, so they'll be fun to watch.

Speaker 3

If anything, they have a bunch.

Speaker 4

Of assets they can trade and make something happen, because if anything, Austin.

Speaker 3

Would be a trade bait.

Speaker 4

Because if Page wasn't in the league, either he or Centrum would have been Riky of the Year.

Speaker 3

So you got a good you got a good foundation to build upon.

Speaker 4

But the youth and figuring out all the playing time, I mean, who knows, depend upon how she plays.

Speaker 3

Basically be rikid of you this year.

Speaker 4

So they got allowed to figure out, man, But it's gonna be an exciting team.

Speaker 1

Mercury will be my under team of the year. I just think with the loss two, I don't know how they I mean, at keep getting older, bro. She top five for us, but I don't know if her in Copper is enough to get it done to make the playoffs again. And then I just mentioned one more team. I like the skuy picked the pick a direction. They picked the direction they went, they went into it. I think they're gonna have chemistry issues. You got a whole bunch of people putting together and we'll see how it

works out. But it might take too long and it might not be enough to get them in the playoffs. And then you already know, Hey, I'm a Vakyrie. I'm I'm chair for the Valkyrie, Gabby Veronica. Yes, sir, that's hey. Now that's that we got this. I'm going buy my hat. I'm going I'm gonna get my vactory hand and put it on because I need that. I need that.

Speaker 4

I know you mentioned wings Man wings They could be a team to watch like that could be the most surprising team of the year.

Speaker 3

Of course, we all mentioned Page what she can do.

Speaker 4

We think she's gonna ascend into uh that cemented top five top six status of the girlcery mentioned.

Speaker 3

They got Alana Smith, they got Jessica Shepherd to the whole front cord Lynx, So I mean, look front court defense should.

Speaker 1

Be elite, should be elite, telling you.

Speaker 4

Now now parameter to I don't know, but that front court because they still have a lead, like the distance at the front court. The front court gonna be elite. The back court on them, but uh what Look they drafted Asi food so hering page. You know they got a chemistry on and off the court.

Speaker 3

Leave it at that.

Speaker 4

I don't know, bro something gotta get done because the efficiency is not cutting it. For me, it's been getting worse. So I don't know what they'll do with Rik. Last year was a career worst in my opinion, it was. So I don't know what they'll do with that. And before I'll let you turn out to you man Mercury, bro At is gonna be in what year twelve?

Speaker 3

Triple double thread? I mean yeah, triple double thread.

Speaker 4

Her game is solid again until someone just all right the scenes or does.

Speaker 3

A precipits drop. I'll keep her in the top six.

Speaker 1

But so too's a big loss.

Speaker 3

I don't know if her and con be enough.

Speaker 1

So two's a big loss. That they said over under twenty four wins under under. For me, I don't see it. I don't see it. I love at all right, So my next tier with shot is going to be there only two teams here, and I went. I went to LA in Minnesota's Minnesota because of Collier's uh injury. I don't know how they going to rebound the basketball. You got Natasha Howard who's on the fever last year, and my girl Dorcause she's back. She she went overseas and played.

She went MVP in her league in the same league. Gabby Williams want the first play the year, so I thought that was pretty cool to see. And so she's back. But Olivia Mouse, you got Corty Williams off the ball and killing me. Brown won the best sharp shooters in the game. I just think that's just a that's a that's a great that's a great backcourt, and I think that's gonna be what was in Minnesota to stay afloat. I just don't know how they're gonna rebound and play

defense without Colley until you come back. When you lost Shepherd and Uh and who's the other girl name? A lot of a lot of Smith. Yeah, so when you lose the two front court players, it's kind of hard. But so I got him in this tier and I love the Sparks. We mentioned, We mentioned the Sparks. I love the Sparks. I think this is a playoff team. They haven't made the playoffs what five to the last

six seasons, so no excuse this year. Bring back. I mean obviously injuries do play a part, but everybody back man, the trader kid Jackson for Atkins, got a better better for a better fit. I like, I like where they're going.

Speaker 4

The Sparks are, to me what the Mystics are trying to become. You just have a bunch of person tility you have in there. Could you have camb Atkins got more fine ship Ray Burrell shout out like Chelsea playing yeat Kelsey Plumb. So I just think they can. I think this is what the goal the Mystics are trying to get to.

Speaker 3

A team built like this.

Speaker 4

The Sparts were terrible on defense last year, but having somebody like Nicker come back with that veteran.

Speaker 3

Presence that should help. Yeah.

Speaker 4

So yeah, man, I think actions can help on the defensive side. So they were a five hundred team last year with so many injuries and stuff like that, So adding what you've added, with a little bit of health, they should be over five hundred, So.

Speaker 1

Give it on twenty four and a half wins. Give me that.

Speaker 4

Yeah, on banking on your they won twenty one with everything they had going on last year, you're talking about twenty four. I'll take that they should have improved defense, they should have better depth. I mean you're talking about a Plum and Nicka and Hanby who could all be in contention for WNBA First or second team or even defensive team.

Speaker 3

So I think they they be fine.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so not at least our tier one teams. This is aasis the champion who has a chance to win what what is it? Four out of out of five?

Speaker 3

Yeah, they can make a historic run. Broke, I think yeah, the Links I think it was they won what like like seven years at one.

Speaker 1

Point seven and the Houston won the first four with Cheryl Swoops when they first got the league. That don't count. Well, it count, but they don't count. Uh Hey chirl Swoop, she like Bill Russell men not playing, so that they got a chance. They got Kennedy Carter bro probably six minutes six women o the year. We're gonna call it she's back. They got her. They gave her a shot, and guess what that's gonna do make Jewel Lloyd expendable.

Thank god, oh Lloyd a mercy. Hey, I'm I'm not a hater, but I know I called it last year. She was not gonna be good and she wasn't a no show basically. So you got somebody who now is gonna help Jackie Young and Agent Wilson as a third scorer in the team with point god in uh In Chelsea Gray. Big chance to repeat again with that? Can they do it again? It's gonna be We'll see the history repeats itself. Dream you know we we we are dream supporters over here with the res edition. Ryan Howard,

Alicia Gray, Canada's back. I think Brindan Jones is hurt but should be back soon. This team gotta they got they got a chance, bro, they got a chance. I mean if if gets better, Alicia Alicia Gray, because say continue to say, hey, I'm still first team All w b A and then you know, Ryan how is gonna be second third team Like she's right there. I mean, sky's the limit because they got upset last year. That was that's crazy to lose to uh fever without Cala

Clark over there. So get your dugs back. I think I think the Dream has a big shot to win the championship.

Speaker 3

I don't know if the Dream you'll win it's title.

Speaker 4

I think they still have a similar rooms to Improved. You know, Angel, she's gonna do her thing on the defensive side, and on the rebuilding side you have UH Canada and Howard. You know that this is an entire uh that entire backcourt. So I think they'll be stout in all areas. But I think it'll just kind of

come down to matchups for them. Matchups and you know, do they have someone in the post you can get an easy basket from because that's always important when it when the shots started falling, you need to hit free throws or be able to get into the post and get fouled and you know, get teams in the penalty.

Speaker 3

So I think, I mean, she she can do it a little bit, man, but the offense then ain't her game.

Speaker 4

To me, that's the next development for her, that the offense man shooting the ball and things of that nation that's the next step in her game. And for Aces, I don't know, Bus you really can't judge them on anything else. Look at last year, Bro, they had the craziest I think I've ever seen it upnbit.

Speaker 3

They were wiped down first.

Speaker 4

Half, Link's running away with everything, and then second half Aces just go on a tear. They survive multiple playoff series, and I mean, yeah, there's dumb luck with injuries all that kind of stuff, but that's nature of the game. I mean, every sport is a battle of attrition, but you still have to put yourself in position to take advantage of those things.

Speaker 3

And that's exactly what the ass did. Asia went on the miraculous run.

Speaker 4

The team want to run, so if they can get back to the pron's land this year, that'll be great. That Carter addition is gonna be huge for them. I mean, we know who their starters are. Really all talk about that they have a stout front, a stout starting five, But adding Carter, that's that's huge for them. You probably got the best coach in the game, Becky Hammond. The Aces are the Aces Man, it's title of bus I think them, Yeah, I think them making history. It's the

only thing that can defeat them. Do they let pressure get to them? Outside of that, their season should be fine.

Speaker 1

Let's take a quick break before we get to the last two all right, and then the last two teams were shot in my tier, which you know who they are, New Liberty, Indiana Fever. I throw it to you.

Speaker 3

New York Liberty.

Speaker 4

Man my favorite to win the title this year. We are talking about these girls in our rankings. I think Stewart, if healthy, can carry to the title. New coach christ de Marco from their Warriors tree, so so you know, they don't have a new system, but you know, player development is kind of his thing. They have a versatile roster with Stewie added. Not to mention some of the other girls they have over there.

Speaker 3

They got back.

Speaker 4

She was Angelashers, Laney Hamilton, so they they're gonna have a pretty pretty solid team. Man. So if not them, I guess Aces are likely the top two going into the season. But you know, just everything that Stuart's done recently, man, she looked good and unrival she looked good with the year league. So and in Saballe Sabrina is gonna miss a little bit of time, but getting her back, working her back in along with the other girls that that they have, so I think they'll be they'll be fine.

Speaker 3

They're my favorite to win the title.

Speaker 4

I think once DeMarco gets in and gets his system with the team in place, and they get adjusted to that.

Speaker 3

I think they'll be fine.

Speaker 1

And then that leads to any of the fever, which is uh, I think, yeah, so I win you Liberty. Liberty should be the number one favorite, right they adding to two is a whole different ball game. And she got the experience. It's not right playing the finals, even though she got swell, but she got the experience. And and but on any Indiana side, they I'm a big component of if you have a weakness, can we go fix it? And how fast can we fix it?

Speaker 4

Right?

Speaker 1

We talked about uh, the sparks earlier with adding brink in that k Atkins play people who play defense. They struggled right defense and this was say David Fever. They struggle on the defense, especially from the perimeter. Yeah, you got Lexi Hall, But now you're adding Raven Johnson, who was the best defensive player in college basketball from a wing perspective, guard perspective last year in college. So you add her to the mix. Gives you another reason you

talk about Kedler c inefficiencies. Right, now you got somebody who can make a play off ball. Now you imagine like I know, I know in my brain what I'll be doing, like Raven Johnson running my point and I got I got Kessy, Mitchell and Clark come off screens all day. Good. Look, you know what I'm saying, you gotta drop something up right, So I think I think because I got leave Boston so high, I'm going with

that she's going to ascend to another level. And that's gonna help Fever compete with Liberty and compete with Aces and have that shot at winn the championship too. So in this tier, I think all four teams have it, have it passed to win the championship. It's just how good is Kyler, Clark, Metchell and Boston going to be? How good can Ryan Howard and Gray and Rees go to compete with you know, Indiana, with the New York and Aces.

Speaker 3

Yeah, the Fever.

Speaker 4

If Clark is healthy, they're gonna be a force to be reckoned with, even without having Clark last year. Like I said earlier, you don't know what happens if Kelsey doesn't doesn't get injured. They're a dynamited backcourt Kelsey and Clark, but they're not elite defenders. So defense is gonna be a sore spot for this team. But you have Boston back there, and you also have Sophie, Sophie's assident defender.

You at it, Raven Johnson. They have Monique buildings, So those are some pieces you can you can have that can contribute to the defensive side. If she's healthy and she does some numbers she did her rookie year, Clarence will be an MVP consideration. So I think Caitlin Stewie Page, of course Asia. I think that's gonna probably be the four that are vying for MVP, just based upon you know, of course team success, but their health and their stat line.

Speaker 3

So if Clark is who she was her rookie year.

Speaker 4

And the team can do what they did last year, you're talking about another potential deep playoff run.

Speaker 3

But I think defense will be their achilles hell.

Speaker 1

All right, So let's talk about who we have in the playoffs. So obviously, for me, my locks with the teers right Tier one, those four teams we just mentioned there are locks to me. Then I'm going Tier My Tier two teams are also locks to me. I'm going Minnesota because all they're gonna do is if you uld stay afloat. You add our number two player, you should be in the playoffs, and then I'm going with Sparks man. I I'm believing the Sparks. I had them as a

playoff lock for a team. It's funny for a team that have been in the playoffs in five out of six years. I got them as locked. But with the with the moves they made we talked about, I think they have the chance to get there. And now my Tier three i have five teams. Of those tier threes, I'm going Dallas Wings and I'm going Golden State valkyri is my eight teams to make my last two to make the playoffs. Over Mystics, over sky To over Mercury.

Speaker 4

Yeah, we have a similar playoff addictions of course, Like you mentioned tier to Tier one teams Liberty, Fasis, Fever Dream, I think those will be the.

Speaker 3

Top four regular season teams in some order.

Speaker 4

Five I will go Links just because they're gonna be as call you for a little bit.

Speaker 3

Stay afloat, like you mentioned, work ourselves back in the shape.

Speaker 4

But they still have you know, courting Wheels and kay To McBride. They have talent where they can stay afloat. So give me the links.

Speaker 3

Around that that five to six spot. Give me the Wings.

Speaker 4

If if I have page the NBP consideration, you got to be near the top five team. So last year they were the team overall was not great at shooting the ball from three. Let's see as you can help with that. But just in general, I think the Wings can be five or stix right with the Lynx on with you man on going Sparks. I gotta put Sparks in there. What they were last year, the additions they made, I think Sparks can be in the playoffs, breaking their uh their streat commission the playoffs, and.

Speaker 3

I gotta go Valkyrie.

Speaker 4

I thought about Mercury, I thought about Mercury man, but they had they have Copper, they had at it. Peels blasphemous to leave the Murk career off, but I'm going Valkyrie to be at eight.

Speaker 3

If this was the NBA style, you had a play in Mercury nine, myssticxteen.

Speaker 4

Yeah, the the storm, the Sun, the fire out of tempo. I'm sorry, I don't. I don't see how those teams can fall into.

Speaker 3

The top eight.

Speaker 4

I mean, even last last year we did say Valkerrie was they spent the team they will wipe down. And Valkyrie had a nice year, man, but I don't see it happened this year with Tempo and the Fire. We already mentioned, you know, we don't think the Sky will have a great year or the Storm. So yeah, I think Valkyrie can take that that eight spot. If the Mercury, you know, I don't know, man, It feels crazy toly Mercury.

Speaker 3

Out, but I'm going Valkyrie over the Mercury.

Speaker 1

I just don't. I just don't know if because because of like of who your star is, right for example, uh, if you if you were talking about NBA terms, because I have Luca or Shay, I have a shot. I have a shot to make the playoffs with the team like prown Lebron. But I don't know if like a

non shooting superstar. Could you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, Like, like, I don't know if that's enough to to cover some of the other mishaps on the team, especially when you lose somebody likes to too. So I don't know, man, I think when it comes down to it, they're they're gonna lose games to the

to the Valkavaca play defense too. And if you got if you got gabu wis on At or Copper and and you know shut them down, then what So I'm a big I'm a big Vaka component because we talked about Valkyrie last year not being it, but they had the identity for defense right And on top of that, now you add in my opinion, the best defensive players in basketball. I know, Agent Willison, you know, I know it's a defense player the Year us a Big Person Award.

But I think Gabuyi is the most versatile defender. And you add her to Tina La to play defense and you got you gotta put him up there. And I might I might be over, I might be too much on a on on on the Vakyaye, but I'm I'm a stand this year. But I think the top four of Locks, I think the Sparks are the team that I'm smashing over on this, on this, on that team, and I'm smashing then under one Merkery because I don't think Sparks and Merker are gonna be had the same record.

I just don't see it because last year, but last year was easy with that skuy Oh my gosh, that was that was too easy.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I got to ask you about this, man. We know h Tina. Charles just retired. Tin soluted Tina for her phenomenal career.

Speaker 4

Man. I mean, anything you could accomplish in the w she she did it. Man, m v P, scoring time, rigular, the year, rebounding championship, all the All w n B, A all defense she was.

Speaker 3

She was an all timer.

Speaker 4

Man. She's probably ranked on a lot of the all time lists, so I want to definitely give her a shout out. But on mentioning Tina to bring up someone on the Mercury, Bro, we had to. I want to say we I had on the list last year. And can we really count on Dowana Bonner being a huge part of the Mercury this year? Bro? I mean, she ain't your seventeen, so she's definitely towards the end. But man, the Mercury really count on Bonner being a huge piece of the puzzle for them.

Speaker 1

Hey, all I know is when she has a bad game at looking over her at in being over looking at it, like I should just get rid of you right now. I don't know, man, I'm I say I say this. We all know, we all know basketball, football, whatever, sport. It is a volume based thing. If I get no volume, I getting up opportunity, I can do something. The Wanna Blair is the Wanna Blair, the wan bo. She's gonna be a first ballot, first ballot Hall of Famer, right

because longevity. What she's done when she's like top she's like top ten rebounds, top ten poison or something in both, right she she damnit Kevin Garnell here. But I think the volume and the opportunity because I don't think they're gonna be that good and I think she's gonna have to play because they got no other option. And I think if you're lying on Bonner in the year seventeen,

how far can we really go? Because you saw what the fever did cut out of here, like you know what I'm saying, Like, I just I don't know no respected bun at all at all. She's I mean, the career, she just don't need to be playing no more. She's in she's in her she's in her shack Celtics era right now. So legend. But wife and wife and wife feet top five and she over here bottom file, Like

that's funny. Do you do you you think uh as is enough to make the Wings be able to shoot that or you think a bounce back from wreak it has to happen for this uh this page EVP season.

Speaker 4

Well, I think Page just from her own statistical output, it's gonna go up. I think as Fudd will be able to kind of help bring some things to the team, like shooting, spacing the floor, stuff like that.

Speaker 3

I mean, I just think the addition is overall. Bro like Shepherd coming over.

Speaker 4

They got films for the back quarter as well, So I mean, I just think they.

Speaker 3

Probably have a nice little seven eight yearl of rotation.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I just I just I just like I know she I know she's a great shooter. But I said I should hope one's enough.

Speaker 3

That's what Win told is that twenty one and a half. I think that's that should be a crazy.

Speaker 1

Little that should be over. That's over because how many games? How many games? How many games?

Speaker 2

Is it?

Speaker 4

It's forty four games? I think forty four, So I mean this is at least a five hundred team. I don't come on, man, they.

Speaker 1

Go, yeah, Sparks are over, Dallas are over. Let me see who else who else we're talking about? I got Mercury as an under I don't believe. I don't believe. I believe they're more five hundred than not. Mystics missics is scary because how much do you trust the youth to get to get at least seventeen wins? Because wasn't the missus missus winning games that one blew my parlay last year? Win too many games? Let me, I mean games missus one last year.

Speaker 3

Let's see, well, Missus won like seventeen last year. I think seventeen or eighteen.

Speaker 1

Let me see your mystics MIXTS was sixteen to twenty eight and you and they lost their last ten games, So you're telling me they can't win two more or one more game from last year with a better roster. Hey, hey, sign me up, missus over sign me up. I'm there, I'm in. Sign me up because Liberty got twenty seven last year and there at what this year? Thirty two?

Speaker 4

Like some of these numbers, like over under Man, they seem crazy low, but we know when you get into the WNA season, it's always been about the same. You have like two to four teams that are like tipping to the top. Then you have like two teams that are counting in the middle. Then you have that other little tier where it's like bally getting into the playoffs, and then everybody else is just trying of like wiped down.

Speaker 1

So three teams last year.

Speaker 4

Links I think Missics are too low to Missus are like sixteen. I think Missus can be at least almost five hundred. I think the wings is too little. I think they should be five hundred. The better it was somebody else too. I thought it was kind of low, like Mercury. That's the ovo way because most Mercury are.

Speaker 1

Around, like they won twenty seven last last year, and we're talking about the we're talking about year older at year older. Bonner uh Copper is back though, because she missed games last year. But you you didn't replace the two, didn't you about that? She's left for nothing. There's there's there was no replacement for that. So you losing a you look to me, yeah, we got her nineteen on our list this year. But when you when you drop some, when you lose a top fifteen player esque and with

no replacement, that's that's hard to replace. Storm At twenty three last year she storm BA and they had fourteen. Now couldn't lost everybody, right, So is that a that's a nine that's a nine win drop off? Is that is that is that accurate? Probably right? Probably? Under I mean somebody gotta be wiped down. We had three teams

under eleven wins last year. If three team if we think if they got Liberty at thirty three games Aces at thirty, Fever at thirty, Dream at thirty, how can you have if you last year we had three teams with thirty wins and uh and Mercury had twenty seven and Liberty had twenty seven. So it's five teams above twenty five. Vegas got sixteens there. How can you not have teams wiped down? If you're gonna do that, they all can be fourteen wins, you know what I mean?

So yeah, I Missics are over fire ten wins. Everybody got ten last year.

Speaker 3

I don't know, man, that's how crazy the league is. The league is so good.

Speaker 1

Nine thirty something sound crazy?

Speaker 3

You know there.

Speaker 4

Aren't gonna be some games where the Fire dudes still they're not gonna go winless, but more games than not, you're gonna bet the other team.

Speaker 3

So I don't know, man, I.

Speaker 4

Know they have Maybury, Maybury and Sights will be bucketeers for them.

Speaker 3

Idea they don't get some buckets.

Speaker 4

They tried to get secure Austin, but you know, mystics, I mean timp over. They were trying. They picked up Sabali's sisters. They they were trying to do some things. But like I'm just looking at some of these numbers, like these over unders of teams that could like maybe mess it up and I don't I don't know, man like tempo and mystics are kind of like close on like over unders, which I don't see why.

Speaker 1

I don't see why that That's what I'm saying, like that, that don't make sense. But if you're gonna have four teams then to get thirty wins, and we had we had five teams get twenty seven to more last year, somebody gotta be somebody gotta be dropped off. I mean, Valkyrie won twenty three last year and made the playoffs and they're at uh twenty three, so they're right, they're doing the same thing for last year. So that's that's definitely an avoid bro.

Speaker 4

We might have six teams this year get twenty five wins because I'm confident do you.

Speaker 1

Think link Do you think links get I'm.

Speaker 3

Confident aces get twenty five?

Speaker 4

The liberty that's too dream would be three fever four, sparks five and potentially the links.

Speaker 1

Do the links get twenty five?

Speaker 4

That callier potentially links depending on how they go without caller. And again, if I think page is gonna be nbple to the reason that me our team is doing good, so you have to be significantly above five hundred. So the leak look expansion, slow down, the fast, slow down, slow down, low down. But I do think some expansion is good. But you're going too fast right now. But

the league does like it's in a good place. I hate that so many girls like you know, hating val least you know, they get cut after like a year or two. So in that aspect, it feels like expansion is good. But at the same time, like bro y'all, you're going too fast. You're charging too much for the tickets. Now, man, came on, slow down, slow Hey, you.

Speaker 1

Gotta take a loan. You gotta take a loan out and go to the dream game. Boy. Hey, Alicia Grave at Leasta Grave, do you hear me send me some tickets because I can't. Hey, I cannot pay four hundred.

Speaker 4

Like, yeah, we're up to fifteen teams now they're talking about and a few more than they gonna move. You know, team might get moved to Houston and stuff. Man, slow slow down a little bit, man, don't get too excited.

Speaker 1

Please slow it down, Slow it down. All right. That's that's the episode we got, the same playoffs we got our twenty eighteen players revealed. I'm ready for the season. Man, I definitely gonna check out a couple of games. I probably won't see Aces and Liberty live because you know they're gonna they're gonna spank them tickets up. So I might go see Sparks and Mystics or or you know, I gotta see my fine ship has come the Valkyrie.

Man when they when they come to d C. Man, I'm all in on those tickets, so we'll see uh shout shout out the Valkyrie too. Man beating down a franchise. Want to be here one year cooking?

Speaker 3

Yeah?

Speaker 4

You know, I went to a few games with Dream last year, but this year I want to hit a couple of road with Fists man and go to a couple of different games. Yeah.

Speaker 1

By saying I probably should go to another stadium outside of uh. But for me as far as logistically, yeah, I gotta. I gotta say, hey, you know what, expansion, come on, keep going, keep going fast.

Speaker 2

Man.

Speaker 1

I need that. I need that Philly team up here so I can go somewhere. Man, give me that Philly team. Hey, shit, we go, We go Toronto, man, if we can, if we gotta, we gotta hurt, try to fly, you know, spirit going and uh who you know the frontierpie Nick? So fight's going crazy, everything going crazy, everything going crazy. Alright, man, we can talk all day, all right, man can Preacher? We shid yeah,

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