Tape deck Media. See hello and welcome to see you at the Potty Richter. My name is Chris Chapman, and with me as always are Aaron Frescas and Joseph bec Castro. We're gonna take a look at Arnold's twenty thirteen action comedy sort of Western vehicle, The Last Stand today. Aaron's got some production information for us, so I'm gonna throw it over to him. Aaron,
why don't you hit us with that sweet sweet knowledge? Oh hello? So they yes, The Last Stand directed by Jiwan Kim or Kim Jiwan, depending on I guess that's you know, it's we always flip it in America for some reason, or they're gonna do it American. God damn it. I don't. I don't get it, though. What's the point, because I like, because they some cultures do surnames first, okay, So so technically
Kim is his surname. I mean, I'm not going to claim to know, but it's like Kim jong ill Kim Jong un, right, or like young Young Kim I remember the closer for the Diamondbacks back in the day, like Kim. I mean, it's actually different in Korean. Somebody explaining that me this once when I was in Korea. But it's like Kim Young young so or like Yao ming the name on the back of his jersey was Yao because that was like so. Then Kim's a super definitely a super common name
because it seems like a lot of actors have that too. Yeah. Yeah, very popular, popular but common Korean name. Okay, anyway, that's the director, and it kind of seems like he was actually one of the first people attached to the film, with the studio Lionsgate bringing him a board around twenty ten, and he, like I said, he's a popular He's from South Korea, is a popular South Korean action director, and this is actually his first English language film, slash us debut. Was he on there
pre Arnold or was this an Arnold vehicle from the very beginning? From what I read, I think it was variety, But he was attached before Arnold. Oh, like one of the first people, I think so. Some of the other project projects he's directed include the Korean films A Tale of Two Sisters, The Good, the Bad, and the Weird, which I watched part of I didn't finish because I gotta read no honestly, I was in and out of the house, and eventually, like I ended up, which
we'll get to later, I ended up rewatching. I ended up watching two movies that we'll talk about later that I ended up watching, ended up watching and staid. But it's basically like a it's a Western pretty much. It's a it's a like a South Korea in Westwood's like about chasing a map. I need to finish watching it. But it was good. It's a very it's kind of it's a little more comical than than this, but it's kind of kind of the same tone. But that's was like, this movie was
hilarious to me. Yes, this movie is awesome. And uh, then he did an Apple TV series called Doctor Brain, which I would have watched. But who the hell has Apple TV? Do you I do? There's like there's like surprisingly good shows on there. What do you have? There's not a lot I really enjoyed. There's a Mythic Quest, which is made by the guy who makes Always Sunny in Philadelphia. I really think that shows which super good? Which guy is that? Rob mcleanny. He's like the
actual Yeah, Mac, Yeah, it's a scripted show. Yeah, it's a it's a it's got two seasons I think so far. Well what's it about? I don't I don't know if the third season is happening or not. Uh, it's basically they run he runs a video game company that they they produce like a a M M O RPG, like a World of Warcraft type type game. And that's basically. I mean, it's it's about a lot of stuff, but that's that's the premise. It's just a video game
studio. And then there's I mean that's where ted Lasso is, but I haven't watched that. That's where I have watched. What's there other severance is there? I haven't watched it. No, I don't watch a lot of TV, so I don't even know why I have this stupid thing. But uh, well, why did you sign up for it? Then? Uh, specifically I wanted myth request and something else I don't even remember. Now it's been so long that Leonardo DiCaprio movies on there which one kills the flower
move. Yeah. Oh, you know, there is a place to get all this stuff that is not Apple TV. It is somewhere in the High Seas exactly. But I think you just get a nice black flag and you go to the high seas find whatever you're looking for. I'm too lazy to get it when it's easy to get let alone, when I have to do extra work for like pirate Ship. WHOA, Okay, this is off record because he walked away, But uh, who said anything about pirrating? I
don't know what you're talking about. I said pirate ship, like pirate style. Shit. I didn't mean I was pirrating things. Carian. Yeah, exactly. You read that you like Pirates of the Caribbean. Sure, okay, first one's good. Yeah, the other two were fine, and then there's four more that I've never watched. Yeah, I don't anyway. So yeah, it's called Doctor Brain. It's it's a Korean show. It's uh, Apple TV's first Korean It's all. It's in Korean, so you gotta
read if you're into that. So uh the last stand written by It was written by Andrew Nauer, who doesn't have too many credits on IMDb, but most of them seem to be comedies, with the only one I've heard of being A Senior Year starring Rebel Wilson, which is the one where I think where she it's in a coma when she's in high school and she wakes up when she's as old as reb Wilson is, Oh, is that what it
is? You know what I'm talking about. I vaguely remember it, and like in my memory, it was just like it was a never been kissed. It was like old lady goes back to high school. I think that's what I think. That's what it was. In Erico Watchington. She said she liked it, but I didn't end up watching it. He does share
credit on that one with a couple of other guys. But so, according to a Variety, Jeffrey knockman Off was brought in to rewrite The Last Stand, although I guess it was obviously an uncredited rewrite because he's not credited. The only credited writer on IMDb is Andrewnwer. But yeah, so Jeffrey knackman Off neck necktch natch min Off. I don't know no an ach neck ornatch
man Off. So anyway, he's basically an action writer with credits including Trader starring Don Chiadle say it, Chiodle, that's right, right's the French guy? Right? Yeah, yeah, it's about the French Revolution. That sounds more Italian. Cheattle anyway, and then the roll on Emeric Masterpiece of the Day after Tomorrow. He wrote that the movie, Yeah, it's fine as
far as movies goes, perfectly entertaining as exactly. It's it's a movie you leave on the background, Yeah, when you're cleaning or if you're hung over at a a whatever you call it Airbnb out in the middle of nowhere in Washington and they only have a bunch of DVDs there. That's one that you put on along with Infinity War even though you've never you've never seen any Marvel movies, and that's what you start movies. Nice, what is a good
one to start with? Yeah, that movie like blew my mind because the only one, actually the only ones I've seen before that were I watched like the first twenty minutes of Avengers and fell asleep, and then I also watched I Think with you Aaron and our friend Eric, we went and watched Captain America in theaters and that was good. We kind of sucked. I mean,
it's good for I am like that movie. Yeah, it's I mean, I feel a lot better about it now, but like at the time, I was like, it's like the Rocket tea I've seen Thor and I just watched Thor again last night. It's not very good. That's fine. I like Thor more than almost like anybody I know, Like I really enjoy that the first one, Yeah, like the first the first one, I don't know, yeah, but I probably like it gets better as it goes on. Yeah, but the beginning, I don't know what I watched.
I'm like, they're in like New Mexico, it's all desert ye. And then they're in this like shitty cgi space place like I don't give a fuck. So those were the two I watched. I'm like, dude, why is everybody in this ship? And then I saw a preview for ant Man. I'm like, are you fucking kidding? Me ant Man, like, dude, this ship is so dumb. And then it was like, oh, we've seen Infinity War like preally freaking game, Like I don't watch that
ship, bro, And then then I watched Infinity War. And then I watched like everything at least like every movie at least like three times, like John Stewart and Half Baked. Have you ever seen Infinite War? But that one and that one and Winter Soldier my two favorites serrem, We're watching Winter Soldiers super high, and like time slows down and then like, uh, you know, fucking Bucky comes out of nowhere just like what Oh I forgot that happened. This movie is amazing. Yeah, so all right back to
the movie. Oh yeah, I heard that after tomorrow. Okay, again, which drugs are you doing? I don't know, Probably mushrooms that would be. I'm granted, I don't take drugs correct, Like I don't take drugs anymore at all, But like when I was, I don't, I do too many of them and then I freak out. So that movie would have freaked me the fuck out, Like I mean, like it's perfectly I mean I was. I wasn't like blown away, but it was like enjoyable.
Had you seen it? I actually watched it in theaters. So and if we're on now, I'd be like it's trophy or whatever, but enjoyable. It's fine. But Aaron, you think you would freak out even if you had seen the movie before and you were on drugs. Maybe I feel like when i'm I only really do weed. If I'm high, I can't watch a new movie. But if I've seen the movie before, oh, shit, It's like it doesn't matter what it is. Yeah, maybe mushrooms
are different. Like, I've only done it once, and I wasn't watching anything. I was just trying in my room, trying not to die, so or what I thought was trying to do. I was watching the door breathe and then figuring out what's going on with life and then forgetting anyway anyway.
But yeah, so he also sorry. Jeffrey Nackmanhaff also wrote, wrote, and developed a show with Dylan McDermott, Dylan McDermott, and Tony Kollet called Hostages, which is about a surgeon being blackmailed into assassinating the president after a family's taken hostage by a rogue agent, which sounds like it would be a plot of a movie, but it was a show with like sixteen episodes. Jesus Christ's It's just I don't know. I was like when I read that, I was like, wait, what that sounds like a two hour
movie, not a sixteen hour show. It's like prison break, Yes, exactly, broke out of prison and then they're like, oh fuck, we were expecting to get canceled. Do we put him back in prison? Yeah? I think they're doing. Yeah, he has to go back in. I'm pretty sure, but I think maybe between the two writers, it kind of feels like you can tell which one's added or punched up which parts of the movie. Sort of maybe I don't know, I don't know, or
he just rewrote the movie. And then it was Once Arnold came on board, it was like, okay, now we got a red lines for him. Yeah. But yeah, as I mentioned in the pre watch, this was Arnold's first film after spending the previous seven ish years as governor of California, with his last starring roles California, California. Yeah, there you go.
I even wrote it down fanatically and I still did it wrong. But his last starring role being ten years prior in the two thousand and three sequel to Terminator three, And believe it or not, he wasn't actually the first choice for the role. They originally wanted Liam Neeson for it, but he ended up passing and it was offered to Arnold, And that definitely would have been a different movie than what we ended up getting. Yeah, because well
I think Liam Neeson is somewhat capable of doing comedy. He still would have given the movie like it just would have been a more serious tone. Yeah, definitely, this is pre or post taken. This is post it.
I looked at two thousand and eight oh eight, Yeah, so I think this might have been after taking two as well, but this is after like the Gray, I was looking at his list but uh or his credits, but anyway, And I think the only comedy I've seen him in is funny, but it's mostly because he's playing himself in a super serious It was like super serious and intense in situations that don't really call for it, like in Ted when he's asking about the cereal, which I watched today because I was
watching both the things I mentioned right now today that that's just or was it Ted too? I think it's just it's just great. He's talking about tricks and if they're for kids and if he can still buy him and I don't know it was, and then his thing on life is too short when he's attempting to do improv just gets me every time. Because I've watched that today too, so that I think I showed it to you guys, are mentioned
it to you, guys, I'll send you a link to it. It's it's with Ricky Gervais and uh Steven Merchant and it's about Warwick Davis like it's his show. Oh okay, yeah, I've seen that. And Liam Neeson. In the first episode he randomly like walks in and he uh too because there at Warwick Davis is at Stephen Merchant and Ricky Gervais's office and he walks and he's like, I want to start doing a comedy impro like improv anything,
and they're like, okay, let's improv a scene. And just the way he improves, he's just basically doing the same thing asn't Ted, but it's like it's darker, so it's it's pretty good anyway. So yeah, basically he's Leslie Nielsen because Leslie Nielsen was like a serious actor. Yeah, but he wasn't a comedic actor. But then they put him in. But
he but he can serious. But he was saying funny stuff. Yes, but he does it differently, like I don't know, explain it, like different kind of serious, like he plays a straight man's ish sort of Ye, he's still he's still in on the gags, but it's like he's more of the silly straight man where leading me in anytime he does like in the Ted role, and that is just super serious, Like it's he's playing himself basically, and it's it's not goofy at all. It's uncomfortable sort of,
but it's I don't know, it's it's uncomfortable. I think it's uncomfortable for the it's uncomfortable for the people in the scene. Yeah, but uh, but he basically does the same thing in A Million Days, a Million Ways to Die in the West. But he's also the villain, so I didn't really need to be funny there. Which did you guys watch that movie because I liked them. I did. Yeah, I'd like almost everything that Stephan McFarland does not animated, even because again it's in the background some of the
family. Well granted it's it's completely different now because the writers are he's just the voice now. But yeah, it's fine, it's it's I don't know, but yeah, I very much enjoyed Ted Milly, Ways to Die in the West, the Orville. I like that show. I didn't watch that. It's just a star Star star Trek. Everybody's more like modern day person. Yes, can't get a little old, but like for the for the most part, it's just Star Trek. But I watched, uh, I
have Peacock because it was they had a Thanksgiving Black Friday. It was twenty bucks for a year, so I got that, and I watched the season, like the season and Ted and which it was it's entertaining, like it's yeah, because he wrote I think he wrote all of them, or he know he wrote most of them. He direct all of them, I think. But yeah, it's it's good. You should check it out of Peacock, which is probably even less of a chance than that, which or I'll
give you the beast word for Peacock. It's good. Yeah, I have your peak. Yes, yeah, you do. Hey, anyway, okay, moving on? Oh yeah, so uh And as far as Lemus goes, I'm sure the last end probably still would have been entertaining with him in it, but I'd say it's this is probably the closest we've seen so far to resembling like an eighties or ninety Schwarzenegger film. Yeah, and I'm so
glad that Arnold ends up being in it. And although I guess we still have a few movies left from his like comeback period, whatever, so maybe we'll get one more m although Chris is seene. What's it called? Is edit? What's escape plan? Escape plan? Yeah? Maybe no, not not not as much as that. So yeah, no, this this one's better. This one's like, this one's more in line with that, Yeah, like the silliness sort of. Yeah, I mean it's not that the
other one's not silly at all, because it kind of is. But I think this one executes it a lot better. Gotcha. The only one I can think of is I think he's a killing gun there, but I haven't
seen that. But anyway, this did make me curious if how like one of those like Quippie one liner rolls would go, like one of these would go starring Leane Meeson, Like, would it be funnier if he delivered his lines in a like sarcastic tone like Arnold Arnold does or like that serious is just work with that serious like Nissan like way, like when he when he like in this movie when he jumps into the diner during the gunfight and they ask how he's doing. Le Neeson's like, old, did that have worked?
Or you need like Arnold's like a kind of like old? I think that scene would have worked, you know what? I don't know if he could do. There's the scene where the old lady. I don't want to spoil anything, but the scene with the old lady and he looks at her and he goes he says obliged. Yeah, I don't think Liam Neeson can play that properly like a black because it would be serious. It would be like serious and like I just like, I don't think that's gonna play correctly.
I don't know the only one to think it was, Like, I know, like they most likely we wrote the sheriff part to better fit Arnold's strengths and probably more one liners, but I feel like some of the lines might have been funnier coming from Lenisan, like just because it's so completely unexpected, like especially like you fucked up my day off, Like yeah, see, I think that I might have almost been better with that would be great.
Well, I think the real question is how much better would Schindler's List be if it had Arnold instead and it's just a German Like wait, was he supposed to be German? In that He's I've never actually seen that all the way through. Yeah, I don't remember where they are come on get Away from the Nazis do it now? I think like prime early nineties Arnold and Schindler's List. Amazing. He's wearing a suit with no more German than rape fines, klan Off. Choose over here now, klan oh Man?
Anyway, how much of that's gonna get cut? All of it? So? Anyway? This is uh. He wasn't originally supposed to be. This wasn't originally supposed to be art On's first film after leaving office. His comeback was originally supposed to be in a movie called Crime Macho, which did end up eventually coming on twenty twenty one, but it started Clint Eastwood. Yeah, who also directed it. Oh, so I watched it a couple of
years ago. Did you ever see that? I haven't seen it? Okay, so Joe, now, no, Okay, So I watched a couple of years years ago. It's it was good. It's definitely a Clint Eastwood movie, if that makes sense. Yeah, Like I feel like I watched Grand to Reno, and then every trailer for every Eastwood movie after that.
I was like, yeah, I feel like I've seen this. It's got the same kind of not as racist, but it's got the same kind of like slow Burn like movie, yeah Field from what I remember, but I also get it mixed up with The Mule, which came out a few years before, and it's about Clinice Wood somehow becoming the oldest drug smuggler ever, which was actually a very entertaining movie. You could check that out. Yeah, So anyway, let's check out a description of Crimacho and see if you
can figure out why the movie never got made with Arnold. So I'm gonna send the link for it, which I didn't write down, but I will find it just a second. So yeah, yeah. Oh, by the way, I was running around before this and I was gonna make food, but I didn't have time, so I ended up getting like I was like, fuck it, I'm just gonna get McDonald's because'll be right over there. And I did it on the app, but the app closed out as Erica
like I was driving. Erica sent it and I was like, okay, cool, I'm gonna get I'm like I used to all get two big doubles in a fry. I was like, I'll get four that way. Can if I get hungry later, I'll can get two later. It's my same order. Oh really, it's a good order. It's like, especially if you're on the app, because the app is like a dollar twenty nine fries, so it's like five bucks for the whole thing. Yeah. So I go through the drive through and pay for it, and I didn't even look
how much it costs. And then I get to the window and they're like seven mcdoubles and uh, you get seven mcdoubles right, I'm like no, and they're like, are you sure, Aaron. I'm like, yeah, yeah, you have seven mcdoubles. And I was like, whatever, all right, okay, yeah, it's not like I'm not gonna eat them, so it's like, all right, whatever. Then I look at the thing.
I'm like, for some reason, when it sent it, even because the order was still in there, it still said Like when I reopened the app, it's still like had the order not sent, and it still said four, but for some reason it sided at three more, which sucks because if I would ordered eight, it would have been cheaper. But still anyway, So I sent you guys the link. If one of you guys wants to read the uh the uh second like, click on the description thingy and
read the second one. Yeah, yeah, okay, got it all right, So what did you say? You were trying to figure out why this maybe didn't get made with Arnold? Yes, okay, got it? So? Based on the book Crime Macho stars Clint Eastwood as a one time rodeo star and washed up horse breeder who, in nineteen seventy eight takes a job from an ex boss to bring the man's young son home and away from his
alcoholic mom. Crossing rural Mexico on their way back to Texas, the unlikely pair faces an unexpectedly challenging journey during which the world wheary horseman may find his own sense of redemption through teaching the boy what it means to be a good man. Okay, so from that description, do we have any guesses as to what would have happened around like twenty ten that might have caused Arnold to
drop out? Uh, knocking up his housekeeper? Guess? Great guess, which is just like raising a boy to become, you know, like a good man. And on top of that, it's like a kid from Mexico, which again is just you know, racisty but like but no, but he's saying like it's it's a Mexican kid. So it's like yeah, anyway,
Yes, you want to see aim At of Rodeo. Though, when I watched that movie and he's an old man in it, so I think it's I don't even remember, Like again, I get mixed up with the mule, so I was like, yeah, halfway through the movie, him and the kid start smuggling drugs. I think, like, I don't know, but yeah, so hey, why don't we go to a chapter of Onold's autobiography titled His biography is titled Total Recall. This chapter is titled The
Secret to find out what the man himself has to say about it. So he starts off by talking about how he and Maria Shriver we're seeing a marriage counselor the last few months that he was governor, and how she had one scheduled for the day immediately after he left office, where the marriage counselor basically confronts him by saying that Maria wanted to ask if he was the father of their housekeepers, Barry Schwartz and nig Sorry I gotta say this correctly. Schwartz
a Nigerian looking child. As if there was any doubt if you've ever seen a picture of that kid when he was a child. Holy No, it's it's the same thing with Danny Harrison, which is George Harrison's kid. Oh, exactly like him, but brown. It's just so risky. It looks exactly like Arnold, but Brown. So in the book, Arnold says, quote, I told the therapist it's true. Then I turned to Maria and said, it's my child. It happened fourteen years ago. I didn't know
about him at first, but I've known about it for several years. I told her how sorry I felt about it, how wrong it was, that it was my fault. I just unloaded everything. It was one of those stupid things that I promised myself never to do my whole life. I never had anything going on with anyone who worked for me. This happened in nineteen ninety six when Marie and the kids were away on holiday and I was in
town finishing Batman and Robin. It's probably depressed about that too, anyway, So he says, Mildred had been working in our household for five years, and all of a sudden, we are alone in the guest house. When Mildred gave birth the following August, she named the baby Joseph and listed her husband as the father. That is what I wanted to believe and what I
did believe for years, and it continues. Joseph came to our house and play with their kids many times, but the resemblance hit me only when he was school age, when I was governor and Milder was showing them her latest photos of him and her other kids, which I can imagine the differences, the way the kids looking, the very orade looking kid. But the resemblance was so strong that I realized there was little doubt that he was my son.
While Mildred and I barely discussed it. From then on, I paid for his schooling and helped financially, helped financially with him and her other kids well. Her husband had left a few years after Joseph was born, but her boyfriend Alex had stepped in as their dad. By the way, quick side note that I know none of this is movie related. This is mostly for people listening, but I think it would feel weird if we never brought
this up. And it does time with this movie eventually, and I figured this is as good a time as any to mention it, so that's why I mentioned. Plus, it's just like a juicy piece of hot goss, like, because when I was reading this, I was like, oh, this is good anyway, Okay, So imagine you meet a chick, her name is Mildred like whatever, you know, and then you start Datoner and everything. Then he realized, like, oh she was just Arnold Tchutschager.
Maria Shreiver's like housekeeper, and holy shit, that kid looks exactly like Arnold's my step son going to be Arnold's son. So speaking of Joseph, that's got to be what like, you know, Joseph felt when he, you know, got with Mary and it's like Jesus stepdad, you know, and it's because his real dad's God. It always Rob Williams. Or he's like Mary tells me, he's like, oh, we better be immaculate. He's like, I don't trying to rob Crimpton. But anyway, so he goes
on the book or he goes on to see in the book quote. Maria had asked me many years before if Joseph would was my child. At the time, I didn't know if that I was his father, and I deny it. My impression now was that she and Mildred, who by this time had worked in her home for almost twenty years, had talked it out. In any case, very little of what I had to say seemed to be news to Maria. The issue was out on the table and she wanted answers.
So yeah, she ends up asking why he didn't tell her earlier. Oh sorry, unquote. So she ends up asking why he didn't tell her earlier, and he pretty much says that one he didn't know how to do it without basically blowing up the marriage. Two he was positive there was no way to keep it private because she shares everything with those damn Kennedys, and then everyone's gonna know. And then the Shriver's her family, is what he
says. He didn't say the damn yeah, but anyway. And three he's always been a very secretive person because he was brought up to keep things to himself. So yeah, I mean none, huh. He then goes on to say, quote, Normally I try to defend myself, but now there was none of that. I tried to be as cooperative as possible. I explained that it was my screwup, that she should not feel it had anything anything to do with her, which is he tells her I fucked up you're
the perfect wife. It's not because anything is wrong or you left home for a week or any of that. Forget all that. You look fantastic. You're you look fantastic, You're sixy. I'm turned down by you today as much as I was on the first date. Which is a very eloquent way. It sounds like I say, come on, Marie, I still love you more than ever. But please understand, I was hoy. I was very very holy. I'm holy right now. So I am saying these things. This is why we have a male as a as a psychiatrist. I'm
not honey for him. I'm hony for you now, is what he's saying. Basically. It's like, but you don't understand. I was holy. What was I supposed to do? Look if you had been around, obviously, but oh Jesus, yeah. So uh. Marie decides that he to separate and d up moving out of the house, and he talks to her.
He talks a little bit about how it was a tough time for her because on top of all this shit, her mom just died and her and her brothers were trying to figure out what to do about their dad because like his memory was dementia probably sounds like it. Her dad's Sarge ends up dying shortly after, and yes I did. Her dad's name was Sarge, and that was not a nickname, by the way. What Yes, literally, her dad's name was Sarge and her dad's name was Robert Sergeant Shrever Junior,
which old times I don't know. I guess so Arnold mentions in his book that he was actually so he actually founded the Peace Corps, which I'd say is crazy. But he's also part of one of the more influential families from US history, so I guess that makes sense. But I did a quick search on him and I actually found out he also founded the Job Corps, which I don't know what that is, but head Start, which is a government funded education program for kids, sorted the job course, probably like funding
jobs. I didn't actually that one up, I just get right now, AmeriCorps Vista, which is the national service program designed to alleviate poverty, and then Upward Bound, which is the only one that I've heard of. And that movie with the dogs and the Cat, Yes exactly. He was the one that thought of the idea to put dogs and cats. They were all like little kids like no dogs and cats the top. Yeah, that's yeah. And you gotta have Dona Michi in there. Make sure you get that
kid, Michael J. Fox in there as well. And you gotta have Sally Fields. What about Sally Fields Chester? No, that was arnold suggestion, Sally Field Field put Sally Fields in it. Who Sally Fields? Oh Sally Field? Okay, now was there more than one? Yes? All the Sally Field Upward Bounds that's sorry, high school the program that helps high school students with attending college. So basically, he took his dumb military name and kind of flipped it on its head and like, you know, did
good to the world. Sorry military people, which did they know what you're saying? They do bad for the well, it's like, you know, a military is kind of there for like war, oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like protecting your country or whatever, like killing Nazis. You know, that's all good, but like, you know, the other he's more Jimmy Carter than he is uh Hitler. You know,
he's going the peace route. The habitat for humanity is supposed uh you know military, Yeah, Jimmy Carter, which is very like yeah, like Jimmy Carter Hitler, Jimmy Carter's like nineties Eisenhower, who wasn't general and like seems very like pro mill like pro military, pro war, just like well that and throw Oh yeah Eisenhower, that's better with Hitler. But yes, uh no him him sergeant and his wife Eunice. I think what's her name, which is a sergeant unite just it's so cute, it's uh shriver. Uh
So. Maria Shevard's parents were the ones that got him doing charity stuff and all, like the politics, all of his more central centralish uh views and stuff like the environment and all that stuff all comes from from her family,
like him getting him into it, like they were. All of his special Olympic stuff came from them because Unice uh in doctrinate it sounds bad, got him into like helping with that and he loved it so doctrinated like she but yeah no, she she got him into that, like the special Olympics stuff and sorry, that was really not good. But uh yeah, so all of his charity stuff, they had a big influence on him, and they seem like good people. I don't know, they're also I'm almost like with
the Kennedy family almost like they probably they seem like good people. I haven't looked into him at all, so this is all me. But they seem like good people. But they're also not Kennedy's. Don't forget about Neil Young, who convinced him to turn his hum Vy electric. He made an electric company. Yes, I really like that. He's not so republican Republican.
He's very He's way more like like open minded, yes, and like especially with the environment and all like yeah, yeah, But anyway, Sarge died in uh So, he died in twenty eleven, and there's an interesting little tibbit from his funeral that Arnold mentions the book that I wanted to share real quick, which says, quote the requiem in Washington on January twenty second, twenty eleven, was almost fifty years of the day after Sarge founded the Peace
Corps. Joe Biden, First Lady Michelle Obama, Bill Clinton, and many other leaders came to the mass, and Maria honored her dad with eloquent and moving remembrance, during which he talked about how Sarge had taught her brothers how to respect women that may have been partly directed at me. But I'd heard Maria praise her father in similar words many times. I was like, no, it's like Jesus, I don't know. Keep in mind, this is at a time, At this time, absolutely no one knew about this,
about the kid, Like even their own kids didn't know about it. They knew that they were separated, because, as we're gonna find out, Maria is not gonna end up living at home. But I don't think that they told him the reason why, or the real the real reason why. Actually,
it's like I said, hot goss Man some good stuff. So he continues in the book kind of trying to explain why he did what he did, which basically boils down to I kept like I kept it a secret, but I probably shouldn't have, saying quote, I asked myself what had motivated me to begin faithful and how I could have failed to tell Marie and Joseph for so many years. A lot of people, no matter how successful on
unsuccessful they are in life, make stupid choices involving sex. You'll feel you'll get away with ignoring the rules, but in reality your actions can have lasting consequences. Probably my background in having left home at an early age also had an effect. It harded me emotionally and shape my behavior so that I was less careful, careful about intimate things, which okay, sure, he also status quote at the time I found out for sure that Joseph was my son,
I didn't want the situation to affect my ability to govern effectively. I decided to keep it a secret, not only from Maria, but for my closest friends and advisors. Politically, I didn't feel it was anybody's business because I hadn't campaigned on family values, which while that might technically be true, I feel like the public voters probably would have thought a little differently about that.
But whatever, Like that's a good way to justify it for yourself, especially like I get it, like if he's justifying it to himself, because you know, he's like, fuck, he's like whatever. They don't need to know, Like I didn't. I didn't actually do that. Like it's something that you tell yourself that you don't actually believe. It sounds like yeah, but he continues by saying, quote, I blocked out the fact that as a husband and father, as a man with the wife and family,
I was letting people down. I let them all down Joseph too. I wasn't there for him as a father needs a boy. I wanted Mildred to continue working in our home, but I thought I could control the situation better that way, or sorry, because I thought I controlled the situation by that way. But but that was wrong too. Yeah, I don't know. It just sounds like a time bomb waiting to happen there, especially as a kid gets older and more. Arnold like like like yeah, so yeah.
He then talks about being called by the La Times and being asked questions about them separating, and he released the statement saying it was amicable. Their therapist then suggests or then suggested including the truth so that it would be clear who is the victim and who's the wrongdoer, but Arnold was opposed to it because he's like, if that like, I'm not a public official anymore. I don't have to share my private life with these Jebbronis. That's not an actual
quote. But then he remembers he's like what he says, quote, I've let the public know everything else about me, so why hide this negative side, which is true and also wouldn't have mattered because within a few days reporters started asking questions about a sunboard on a weblock. So the La Times calls again and tells him that they're going to publish a story saying saying as much
basically and ask for a quote. Arnold says he told them quote, I understand I deserve the feelings of anger and disappointment among my friends and family. There are no excuses, and I take full responsibility for the herd to have cost. I have apologized to Maria and my children and family. I am truly sorry. I asked that the media respect my wife and children this extremely difficult time. While I deserve your questions and criticisms, my family does not.
So this is when he decided it's probably time to tell the kids what happened the night before the story breaks, which he mentioned in the book, saying, quote Patrick can Quist, Christapha, his son was His son was at the tod anyway, so we do that. Pat we can quistifer what helm with me? Patrick and Christopher were home with me. So I asked him to sit down and told him face to face. In each conversation, I explained that I made a mistake. I said, and this is a
quote inside a quote, I'm sorry about it. That happened with Mildred fourteen years ago, and she got pregnant and now was a child by the name of Joseph, which is funny because I'm like, yeah, I'm sure they would have been like, yeah, we played with him, we know who he is. He just mentioned that earlier, and he says it does it doesn't change my love for you, and I hope it doesn't change your love for me. But this is what happened. I'm terribly sorry about it.
Your mother's very upset and disappointed. I'll work hard to bring everyone together again. This is going to be a challenging time, and I hope it won't be too awful with the response from other kids at school or the parents when you go home to your friend or you go to your friend's houses, or when you turn on the TV or up of paper, Like I said, I'm curious if they're they're just gonna be like, dude, we know Joseph
obviously. Like on top of that, I'm like, I'm not sure what the rest of it, Like the housekeeper's kids look like, but any DeVito weirdly but like, well, okay, exactly like Joseph looks like the baby from junior, like when Arnold first gets pressed, like when he when he's having that nightmare about getting pregnant, when he burst the baby, it's just like his face super impose on it onto a baby. That's basically what Joseph looks like. Like, So like, I don't I don't know, I
don't get like how you wouldn't know. Yeah, I think the important thing to take away from this is we need to replace you Aaron with somebody named Patrick, because Arnold already has a kid named Joseph and Christopher. That's true, you're yea he has daughters. Is one of them named Aaron? No, that's that's Catherine. Uh Christina? Yeah, you gotta go. Yeah, majority rules after this episode, and you edit all the other ones. They do most and he keep doing most of the work. Or I could
just change my name to like Christina. I don't know why with the girl's name Patrick that I actually prefer to be a Catherine then Christina? Or again, why do we want the girl's name whatever? Anyway? Oh yeah. So he also mentions that he regrets the impact it had on Mildred and Joseph because they weren't used to living in the public eye. Public eye. They
say pubic ey, because that'd be weird. That's sorry. He also mentions that he regrets the impact it had on Mildred and Joseph because they weren't used to living in the public eye and now they're being constantly, basically haunted by the press. I guess even it ended up ended up getting them a more private place, private place to live, and says that Mildred was always cool about stuff, which he's doing with like minus the you know, like obviously
lying about shit. Yeah. He then talks a little bit about how the time of writing the book, he still he was still trying to act like he Marie were together, even though the divorce is still going forward. He said he gets that she's like pist or disappointed or whatever, but he said, quote I really hope he said, or whatever totally, but he said, quote, uh, I still have hope that Marie and I can come back together as husband and wife and as a family with our children. He
can call us denial, but it's the way my mind works. I'm still in love with Marie, and I'm an optimist. In all my life, I have focused on positives. I'm optimistic that we will still come together again, which I'm like, prepare for disappointment, my friend, because that ain't happening. He then talks about how because of this, he tried to stay busy, first with speaking engagements and then resuming his movie career, which brings
us we're wrapping it around, brings us best back to Primacho. He ended up announcing that he was suspending his career to work on personal matters, which robbed us. Okay, this this is the part when I found out, which robbed us of an animated series he'd been collaborating with with stan Leon called The Governator, and m I send you guys a link for its wiki page.
Yeah, and I was gonna move right past this, but then I read the description and when you guys got to read this, okay, let me send this to you, and uh, let's read the plot because it is amazing. Okay, all right, the plot, Okay, The Governator would have featured a fictionalized Schwarzenegger, who, after stepping down from his role as Governor of California, became a superhero in order to fight crime, his
real life family and Bertwood home. It would, by the way, I don't know why it's anyway okay, sorry, would have had fictional It's not would have it would have whatever, all right, anyway, would have had fictional counterparts, with the home having an Arnold Cave under it as a base of operations. So lazy with the writing named an Ernld Cave, I mean it makes sense. This is the same era as I think maybe this was later. This is a striperella that the Pam Anderson one that was on.
Fucking No, this was like twenty eleven, was it was this the same Oh? Really? Same time? Yeah? This was like right, this was supposed to come out right after he left office. Well, it's definitely the same amount of laziness anyway. To assist in crime fighting, the cave would have had high tech vehicles, super suits, a gym, and the addition of a group of sidekicks. One sidekick is his cybersecurity expert Zeke Muckerberg
Jesus, a teenage computer genius. The Governator would go up against Gurly Man Gurly standing for gangsters, imposs stirs, racketeers, liars, and irredeemable x cons. It's recurring super villains. Larry King also appears as the trailer as an investigative reporter and then there's a whole bunch of screenshots of like concept ard watch the trailer. Oh yet I haven't seen it yet. I waited and I was like, oh, ship, there's a trailer. Sure, let's
watch the trailer. Oh I probably should have leuked. Are you gonna find it real fast? If it's on YouTube? I'm sure it is that my recording volume keeps getting crazy trailer. Yes, hold on, I'm gonna make shirts and hidev ah, that's boom. All right, Well that's not too loud. It has been a few for his past eighty years. Now I must say goodbye. Coming up wouldn't be returning to your life as a movie
star, very king of chair, No there are. I've had a great career as you know, as a body build a as an actor, and as a politician. Now I'm going to be a private suis and once again I won't be back this dress. Name lets paging from San Francisco. Oh well you're in luck. Yeah, you better hope the fucking gombinator gets there. Also, how else am going to be if robots were there school?
Did they not get the dialog pass? That one? Maybe not? Wait it was one of those just an iron man soon we'll go back, all right. So we're actually not gonna play the last two minutes of this trailer because it is literally just action and that doesn't make a good podcast. But Black Eyed peas sample of Digsdale, you know, the pull fiction song plays and Arnold drives a mortar cycle but it turns into a flying thing and he
goes to San Francisco the bat cycle. Yeah, okay, it turns into the bat cycle and he fights robots and robots who are early dealing money. Well, you can program a robot to do anything, yes, but it seemed like the robots were in charge. I don't know. Oh god, it's like a terminator thing. It's like a verse terminator. But he's wearing some Loakes or Arnold Chase, whatever you want to call him, and he's just like beat him up and shit's blown up. And uh, allegedly with
San Francisco. I didn't see a cable car, so I don't know that branch could have been anywhere you're you're legally obligated to show a cable car if you're anything's happening in San Francisco on TV and film, But that's basically it. And then it says, uh coming twenty twelve, but we never got that, and no, Stanley's dead, and I'm I'm curious if there that is actually like the actual one or someone did something like that Black Black Eyed
Peace song over it. I think this is the actual one because there was no space for anybody to talk during that scene. That's true, you know what I mean, Like his mouth didn't get enough along into production or whatever to record anything besides that. It kind of seems like that. Okay, I don't know, but it is on YouTube, Yes, but he checked out check out the goator quite enjoyable. It's ridiculousness. Yeah. Uh, it's just the whole thing seems good to me because it's got the girly thing.
When I saw that, I was like, oh man, what the fuck he's fighting girly man. That's great. But yeah, anyway, uh so moving on, all right. So we then get to cry Macho, which Arnold uh talked about in his book, saying quote another project that got to real derailed was criy Macho, a movie I'd looked forward to making the entire time I was Governor Al Ruddy, the producer of the Godfather and MILLI million Dollar Baby, which I guess you can see how Eastwood got involved.
But he'd been holding onto this movie for me for years, but after the scandal broke, the material was just too close to home. The plot revolve around a horse teener's friendship with a streetwise twelve year old Latino kid. I called al and said, maybe someone else can star. I don't mind, or he can hold it for me a little longer. He'd already talked to investors with him, saying, the producer saying, quote, they'll make any other movie without you, but not this one end quote. So yeah.
He then mentions that the studio producer started calling his entertainment lawyer, Patrick Knapp, who's also his nephew, and asking if his career was still on hold, and kind of being pushy about making movies with him. So he ends up presuming his career his movie career and starts off talking about in the book, it starts off talking about the expendables too, before moving on to the last stand And something he mentioned makes me think we missed out on a somewhat
important part of his character arc for the movie. At least I kind of think so, because I realized when I was writing this that I would watch that. When I was watching the movie was also drinking. So while I know the actual scene is in the movie, I honestly can't remember if he it's a line he mentioned in the movie because because it's also been a few weeks since I watched it. But he says, quote, I went from
Bulgaria to the American Southwest to shoot The Last Stand with that movie. A lot of pressure did follow me. In fact, the script had been written for me. I play an LAPD drug cop who is near retirement. After my partner gets crippled in a bungled raid, I decide I can't handle the job anymore. So I go back to my hometown on the Arizona Mexico border and become sheriff. Then suddenly and just sums up the move. Then suddenly a major gang, a drug gang is headed my way after the escaping the
FBI. We're supposed to stop him. Three and experienced deputies the last Stand. It's a great he says, it's a great role. The sheriff knows if he succeeds, it will mean everything to this to the town, his reputations on the line. Is he really over the hill? Or can't you do it? End quote? Okay, did it mention the that stuff about the LAPD drug cop and the bungled raid was in the movie or no it
wasn't right, Yeah, it was. It was they changed some stuff they mentioned he got shut No, no, no, there was a big drug grade. He he was, so he talks about it. Then he doesn't mention much about it, but there's definitely scenes about it in the movie. The FBI talks. He barely mentions. Yeah, he barely mentions that he was in the l A p D. Okay, So arcotics was it when they're when they're saying like who the sheriff is? When like force is getting
a breakdown of it? Okay, Okay, correct, he got shot I think five times, and yeah, everyone else in his squad died. Okay, I mean that would be like, uh, you know, why did you survive and no one else. It's kind of a shug Night Tupac situation speaking of okay, which is sort of speaking of because it's related but not
really though. Okay, anyway, moving on, The movie also stars Academy Award winning actor Forced Whitaker as Asian John Banister, who seems who seemed like he like he's a great actor, but honestly seems like he feels bad saying no one everybodys after offered a movie because he does not seem to discriminate when it comes to what he says yes to. Because that dude has seriously one hundred and thirty four acting creds on his IMDb. His career is strange to
me. He's in a ton of random stuff including shuffle papers, shuffle paper, shuffle paper, check notes. A movie with Johnny Depp called City of Lies, which again which Joe was just talking about, which is related ish, which is about those two investigating the murder of rapper Notorious Big. Never heard of it. Yeah, I'm sure it's good. I remember that came
out a couple of years ago. Another movie called Burden co starring Usher, about a KKK museum opening up with a in a South Carolina town I never heard in a movie called Repentance with Anthony Mackie about an author and spiritual advisor who takes on a trouble client whose fixation on his dead mother's death ends up
putting their lives in jeopardy or something like. I don't know, anyway, these are probably all really good movies, like not too Chebek, and I'm sure they're super entertaining too, because I don't think I've ever seen him in anything bad, although it was in Battle in Battlefilters and that's supposed to be one of the worst movies ever. But besides that, like even he was in Black Panther, which is awesome. He was in Rogue One, which here's the best Stars movie ever, and I've seen it twice, but I
can't remember anything about it. But I'm guarantee it's no Phantom Menace, which is mine. You know. Rogue One, Yes, that is like a really really good movie, but it's forgettable, like the plot points, and I don't know why I've seen it twice. I can't remember anything like I can remember them just because I know what it's about and remember stuff. But granted again probably not probablyety let's say ninety set one hundred percent sure drinking each
time, but like you think I would take something from it. Well, the one, the one thing I remember in the one shitty thing about that movie is so in a New Hope, Luke blows up you know, the death Star because he fires a rocket at a plasma thing. Whatever the fuck he does missile something into the exhaust port, which is about the size of a wamp rat. Okay, so if you're building a fucking death star, like it's gonna take a lot of energy, right things, it's it's no,
it's no moon, it's a death star. It's huge. Like, the exhaust has to go. This sounds written down exhaust set it so many times and it's like, yeah, the exhaust has to go fucking somewhere, right, So the guys who designed it, like you know, they're like, exhausts gotta go somewhere. We can't just fucking plug it up. We're
all gonna die from like CO two poisoning, so you know. And then some fucking douchebag farmer from fucking some desert planet comes and like shoots a rocket that goes like down in there and hits the fucking hole and then it blows up, and it's like, yeah, you got fucking lucky. But like the engineer, what the fuck is he gonna do? Is he gonna plug up the exhaust port? Is everybody gonna die from CO two poisoning? No,
he's gonna have an exhaust port. However, this movie kind of wreck cons that and it's like, oh no, we playing that way now, fuck that. There's a bullshit shot from the from the from the first one and shot. Yeah, I forgot they did. Was I mean, who know that fucking kid had the force? That's true. I know no one else could make that shot. But even Vader couldn't make that shot. There was something else. Oh oh the other sorry, I was trying to think
of the are two things I remembered about that movie bad? Bad? Uh deep fakes Yeah, just layou at the end. Nah. The other one was bad too, grant grandma, Grandma tarking, Grandma Tarking. Was I don't remember that one being that bad? You know, I don't know anyway. I mean even Vader's d aging was little. Was he in that too? He was? Oh yeah he was. Yeah. They could have cleaned up that, like polished his mask a little more. Yeah, yeah,
and it was. It was, which makes me sad to say it was old James, old Jones voice was yeah, which again, like you watch the New Indiana Jones movie and you're like, why does he sound like he's eighty when in the scene when he's like when he's younger? Oh, the opening scenes, You're like, I said, you met James Old Jones.
I was like, James, here's when like in that scene when he's younger, he's like, well, I don't know, you're like Jesus Christ, clear your throat man, or like if you ever seen The Irishman, Like yes, the Age of Joe Pesha de Niro DeNiro, and de Niro's beating the shit out of a guy, but he just moves like a fucking like eighty year old dude. It's supposed to be like thirty four, but he's
all like wretched and like he's grabbing his leg with his hands. Yeah, it's like, just get a fucking like stunt double or something and give him like a green mask and fucking put de Niro's face over like, uh, anyway back to uh forced Whittaker and I think Joe mentioned way back into that Ghost Dog where the samurai is good even though that's one of the stupidest names for a movie ever. Yeah, one of the coolest names of the movie
ever. Just I was like, I remember giving you about at the time, like what no fucking with ghost Dog way of the same, right, And you're like, yeah, it's a badass movie the it like, is it just him as a samurai? I've only ever heard good things about that movie. Okay, No, it's like a modern day and he's like an assassin or something. But he also follows, you know, some sort of samurai ship like samuraik. I haven't seen it. Yeah, I haven't seen
it a very long time, but it's been good. Also, I watched half of Battleflord Earth when I was in like high school and was really high. That movie was amazing the first half that I watched, So apparently it's really bad, but i've never seen it. Side. Yeah, Panic Room, Yes, Panic Room is good. Yeah, he's Jared Leto's stupid face burn off. It's great. Yeah. Any anything he's in is always I'm always like, damn this. He's pretty good actually, but I haven't seen
him in a ton anyway. Moving on, so, uh the last time anyway? What? Yeah, Ever, I've never seen that movie either, though I heard it's sexy though, which I think is like the second time we mentioned that movie on here. But it's either that or the game, because you mixed up up. You mixed up the crying game with the game. That's right, that's right. Every one has Michael Douglass. The other one has a transgender person. Yes, it's something. I don't know which
one it is, and I don't want to. I don't want you to explain it. I'm just gonna put one on one day and be like, you should you should still watch the game though, I think it's on like Netflix. I want to. I want to buy you both the DVDs, but swap them. Oh yeah, just just and then right the wrong one on there so you forever think the game is the crying game and the other way round. Should figure out how to do deep fakes and then deep fake
Michael Douglas into the crying game. Yeah, the one where he hooks up with the no what what anyway? Okay? So moving on the last day and also starts John Knoxville's Lewis Dinkham, who we probably know best from the two thousand and five TV Turn movie The Duke's of Hazard, and I don't really have much about him besides I enjoy stuff when he's in stuff, although
he usually ends up playing the same character, which whatever. And I could definitely see after watching this again how Joe mixed up this role with the one in Walking Tall because it's similar. It's a little good, same thing. Yeah, and it's like kind of the same movie. And in fact, right after this, when I was watching it on HBO, I will not call it by the fucking stupid name has I was watching on HBO. He was like, you know, it does the thing like up Next or movies
you think were like. And the first thing was like walking Tall. Oh, it's on the walk Tall, do it and so again, moving on. Stars Jamie Alexander Sarah, who from the behind the scenes footage which will check out later, just seems like a genuinely lovely person. She was. Yes, we also have Luis Guzman as Mike, who I think probably usually plays the same part in most of the stuff, but it does it so
well that and whatever I'm going with it. Rodrigo Graduate being Rodrigo Santoro as Frank, who will just always be Pala from Lost to Me, Power Lines, Power Power, Palo Lies whatever anyway. Edward Noriega is a villain Gabriel Cortez who looks super familiar before I looked up his credits and realized he I know him from the Penelope Cruise film called Abrallos Ojos, which is just the
movie that Vanilla Sky was remake of. And then we have Peter Stormyer as Buriall, who is great in this and did a quick I did a quick search on him and he's actually Swedish, which I think we meant we mentioned, which I'll end up cutting if we did mention, but yeah, he's actually sweeted shoot. So I'm not actually sure if I've ever heard him speak with his real accent before. Yeah, I don't meet I don't no, I'm from Sweden. But it's like it's just a bad, like stereotypical accent
that Jamieie Curtis and trading places here you go. But like he was also doing like a weird which I'm again I'm sure we'll talk about in the next episode, but he was also doing like a like it sounded southern, but he was trying to do Southern. Okay, yeah, okay, so yeah, but it's like a like a it sounded like a guy not from someone
not from this country trying to do a southern accent. Yeah. I think I think there were like certain lines where I was like, oh, man, that's good, and then there were other lines where I was like, oh, you're struggling Yeah, okay, so we're gonna pump the brakes right there for this episode, but we'll pick things up next week with a little bit more production info as well as diving into possible reasons that the Last Stand
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