Terminator Dark Fate: Prewatch, Production Notes, & Promo Clips

Hi, Aaron here, So just wanted to give a quick heads up before we get started that this episode was actually recorded in early April of twenty twenty two, but due to like a mixture of me being busy with work and too lazy to edit, it's taken about ten months to release, which is why there are a few older references. So yeah, we recorded it. We basically recorded it right after last year's Academy Awards, but before one of the stars of the movie Volcano passed away, so it just heads up with

that. Oh, there's also a bit of a spoiler for the movie Doctor Sleep, that Stephen King movie, so I guess watch out for that and fast forward if you're worried about spoilers for a four year old movie. Anyway, I think that's it. So thanks for listening, and I hope you Jabroni's enjoyed the episode. Welcome to see what the Party RICTA. My name is Aaron Frescus, and with me as always are my amazing co host Joseph be Castro. Hello, QT puyes, Chris Chapman. How's it going?

And uh this episode, we are going to start stuff off with our pre watch before we watch the movie, and we are gonna be doing the twenty nineteen action adventure sci fi movie, which I think is part of it, like a franchise. But it's Terminator Dark Fate. That's not that's not supposed to be question. It's Terminator Dark Fate. But before, before we before we mentioned or talked about this, I actually had to make a little announcement

to make, which I'm actually pretty stoked about. So, uh, when we're before we were, before we work, this isn't written down, So this is what happens when it's not written down. It's just stumbling through it. Anyway. Okay, before we we before we were going to record, and that's how that's all I was gonna say, like that out right here. Before we were gonna record, I was like, okay, well I need a little bit of time because I was cooking and I was making chili.

Uh huh and Erica, well no, no, no, that's not done yet. It's gonna get better. And Erica doesn't like when I make chili because she doesn't like my chill. Like anytime I've made it's always different recipes because I'm trying to find one that she likes. So Rachel Ray chili.

She's like, now, fuck Rachel ray chili. And then one of the one was like Sam the cooking got chili, and just a bunch of different times, and she's never really she's like, it's fine, but then I'm always the one that ends up eating most of it, like the leftoves and whatnot. She prefers to canned chili over the chili that I'm making, which it's not it's the chili is good, but anyway, I got it on there. I'm out of this conversation. I don't really like chili,

period, So why I just don't like kids. I don't like the consistency. It's gross, like because it like tastes like this, like diarrhea in your mouth. Yeah kind of, That's why I like it. It's like really good taste in diarrhea. Anyway, it feels the same way going in as it does going out. Gross man. But I think I made one that she likes more than the can chili, which I was like, oh right, and it's impressive. Yeah, she's probably lying to me, but

yeah, anyway, that's that's it. That's with that. But uh so, Terminator Dirk Fate, Wait, wait was that the point of the story. Yeah, that's that's what you were making chili. That was making chili. And then she that she probably likes more than can chili, which just makes me sound like a horrible cook. Like sweet, I don't know. I was, I was happy, and that's why I ran like right before we recorded or we started, I ran over. I'm like, wait,

I gotta ask her something. And I came back and that's what I was asking her. Serious anyway, So Terminator Dark Fate. Uh So christ Dirhea of movies? Have you? I assume No, I haven't seen it. Okay, so Christy haven't seen it? Yeah, that's that's what I just I have not heard any good things about it. Really. I heard a couple of people kind of liked it, but for the most part I heard

bad things. I mean, I remember liking it from what I remember, but I was also drinking, so like like, and I was talking to Rika, it was the same way. She's like, I remember liking it, but I don't know after I guess after Genesis. Well again, I like Genesis before this we started this podcast, so I don't know. But and then Joe, how do you feel about this movie? Okay, so

obviously have Terminator one and two, two favorite movies. I was very disappointed when when I watched Terminator three, like everybody was, because it wasn't Terminator one or two, but all the other Terminators that came out after that. The one I was most disappointed was was this one, and mainly because shit on Genesis all you want it tried something different. This one just went back to people are running from a terminator. That's just what it is. It's

it's like a just a fucking zombie movie. But like it's the same like Terminator one is basically I mean it's sci fi, but it's basically a horror movie. Like yeah, basically a slasher movie. Or yeah, Terminator two just flipped it on, it said, and it's just like, you know, I don't even need to talk about how great fucking Terminator two is because it's amazing, same kind of concept, you know, terminators after him, blah blah blah. But they got a little side project of blown up cyberdine.

I think you said, boning up Cyberdine. Yeah, Miles Dicing. Uh, this one is just like more slasher chase stuff. So it's like kind of really disappointed in it. Yeah, but I watched it once and

uh, we'll see what happens again. I want to watch it again, all right, but hopefully I just don't leave that bad taste much like Aaron's chili in my mouth according to Erica, Uh and like I actually try to like enjoy it and like think about it critically as supposed to like fuck this movie, because I don't know why i'd have like a problem with this movie, like James Cameron was involved. It has absolutely nothing to do with like, you know, the chick power thing, like some people use that as

a Yeah, there was people bitching. Yeah, stupid pieces of ship you know what I just realized. Sorry again off topic. Wien are pinching is apparently my podcast default because I'm doing it but I'm not the pee and I'm like, okay, you need to stop doing that because that's weird. Sorry, Like sitting here, like you're closing like opening closed, open, like okay, what are you doing? So like I got distracted, like listen to joke for a second cause I was like, what are you doing?

Okay? Anyway, Yeah, you're a fidget spinner exactly hopefully Anyway, for those that aren't aware, when Aaron really has to go pee, he pinches his wiener, but he also doesn't like when we're recording this podcast, he doesn't always tell us, and then so sometimes you got to enter be like hey, Aaron, is it wiener pitching? Times like, yes, it

is, and then he goes to the bathroom. But apparently now he's uh, he's been padlof dogs classically conditioned to pitches wiener whenever you record this podcast, but that also prevents it. So whenever he does have to be he's already like hand on cock, ready's trolling your hair, like with your finger.

Anyway, Okay, I remember liking this movie. Yeah, and I forgot about the whole girl power thing that people were pitching about, which how is this The entire franchise has always been like I don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Like the first movie is like, yes, it's got Kyle Reese there, but the whole point is that she's a badass by the end, or like not a badass, but like she's been irreparably changed by the events that happened to her. And then in the second one, she's

a fucking like monster in the second movie. The third movie has the female Terminator and like, I don't know after that, I stop paying attention. But the origins of the movie and the two good ones have a lot of like female empowerment stuff. So people are fucking morons, which is I'm trying to think, is like kind of like a James Cameron thing too right, because he loves yeah, like, uh he loves that bullshit. Yeah, the fucking the Abyss. The main character in the Abyss is a lady,

Is it not Ed Harris? No, he's not really the main character. She's the main character. Okay, I've never seen that movie, so oh you haven't decent good recommendation there. I like it. I haven't seen it recent enough to be like, no, it's great. I enjoyed it. Okay, like Titanic, you got Titanic? Uh, True Lies is yeah, Avatar, True Lives. It's all like there's always like a guy there, but it's a lot of like this like strong woman sort of aliens.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely aliens. I mean, if you're if you're gonna listen to one podcast about female empowerment in film, it is three podcast, Yes, Chillier Pitching podcast. There was did you guys watch the movies? That made us. I've seen some of them. I haven't seen the Alien. One's good because it's it pretty much sounds like everybody was afraid of James Cameron because he's, you know, a dick, except for Sigourney

Weaver, and so she's pretty much to him. That's like standing up to him all time, which is great, and I feel like that's how it is. I feel like I've read something or about with Avatar too, to where she's not afraid of him, who's Yeah, so she's not afraid of like standing up to him and whatnot when he's just being a dick. But yeah, anyway, so this movie, the was the bad guy, the the that the like the Asian two one thousand, right or was that just

like one part? Or again? Am I getting confused with That's Genesis? Right? No, he's isn't he Hispanic in this one? I think he's a Hispanic of some sort. Yeah, see, I'm pretty sure the Asian T one thousand was the new T one thousand that they did in Terminator Genesis. That is correct. Yeah, Okay, so Hispanic is racist, is you know? Yeah? Gabriel Luna, Gabriel Luna, why is Hispanic racist? Well, it implies, God, you should know this. Gee,

why am I bring this up to you? You called me dumb because I'm a Mexican. You fucking racist. Damn flip that ship on me. Damn Redd set you up, motherfucker. Hispanic implies like Spanish, like basically like the Inquisition, So you're a result of that. But like people, you know, if like people from like Yucatan, like the Mayans and shit, who never got the Spanish influence, wouldn't be Hispanic. Can I call Harvey or Bardim Hispanic? I don't. I don't know. You gotta ask him

why, yes? And me, I don't know because he's from Spain. I don't know, Okay, I don't think so. Yeah, I guess he's just Spanish Spanish. Yeah. The trailer started playing automatically on IMDb, and I was like, oh, it's the Asian guy. But it wasn't the Asian guy. It was the Hispanic guy. I just don't know. My racist? So racist when you just like can't like distinguish between the two, between all non white people, yeah, little racist. Yeah, even

though you're non white. However, it would be not racist if you just couldn't tell. But you were like, Oh, it's it's an Asian dude. Oh, it's an Asian dude. But no, it's Gabriel Luna, who is in stuff. Right, I've heard the name before Terminator Dark Fate. Oh oh yeah, he's a ghost writer and it's really yeah, Okay, well I think he's the the bad Yeah he's yeah, he's yeah, the scary Terminator. But this movie was also written by David Goyer, who

which is not a good sign. No, it is not. I don't remember why, but I think we talked what I said, why what else did you right? We talked about him in a different episode. I can't remember which one though, or No, it was with the Justice League one, wasn't it. Yeah. Yeah, so his name is all over the

Nolan Batman's which is why people like like him. And he's got a he's got his name on a couple other decent movies too, but like, if you actually go through his credits, he's got way more misses than than hits. And then it was directed by Tim Miller, who is the or the the first Deadpool one of the first one, yep, the second one was one of the dudes who directed John John Wick. Okay, did he direct anything else besides Tim Miller. No, he comes from video games. He

used to do a lot of like video game cinematic directing. And I think some commercials, like you remember that Arkham Origins trailer where it starts on Bruce Wayne as a child, and then it just kind of goes it's just his face and it just like goes through the years until you eventually Yeah, it was a really good trailer. But that he did that, and I think he got really famous for that. He's good in like thirty second bursts.

I mean, I like Deadpool, the first Deadpool. Deadpool's good, and I haven't seen this movie, so I don't know, okay, although although he obviously has not, nothing has happened for him since this movie, so I don't know, Okay. I'm curious. I'm really curious if Chris is gonna hate this one like or like this one better than Genesis, because and then if Joe can turn his opinion around. Did you guys, last thing, Joe, did you watch this in the theater? No? I didn't.

I meant to, So I think this is the only one that I haven't seen in theaters besides the original Terminator, because I was like a year old. But yeah, I just never actually like got around to it. I don't think I did. Erica says we did, but I don't think we did. But I'm like ninety nine percent sure we didn't. But yes, okay, either day, anyway, anyway, you wouldn't remember if you

did. Yeah, And we also probably won't have a guest on this one because when we do Terminator episodes, they go way too long because we start arguing about stupid shit shit like what do you mean extremely important ship? Yeah, yeah, that's that's a good point. Yes, you Usually at least I'm not writing it because I end up getting way off topic when I'm writing the term like that Genesis one kept going off topic because they kept like writing like stuff that I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

what's going on to where it split the episodes up? But anyway, I'll try to keep it straight. We'll see no whatever. I like doing that, so that's fine with me, and I'm sure do doesn't have a problem with it. So I give a little people behind the curtain here. I give minimal effort. I don't do any of the writing. I don't like edit, you know, I like update the website every two months, but for the Terminator once, I will put in a lot of effort and

I have a lot to say. Sweet Joe is writing and editing this episode. Nice. Yeah, I love it. Cool. Yeah, we're gonna go watch or the movie, or we're gonna go into pre production stuff. Who knows, it's a mystery. Whatever you hear next is what you hear next, and you'll like it. God damn it. I'm reliable, a very good listener. I'm extremely funny, and we're back. We didn't really

watch the movie, but we will, we promise. Anyway. Now it's time for us to move on to the the production and all the promotional stuff. So Aaron, why don't you tell us about some of the promotional stuff. Thanks, that wasn't awkward at all. Thank you, boner face. I appreciate that. Sorry. Yeah, Like I told Chris earlier, the fact that I could change your guys' names just makes paying Zoom worth it is that? No, that is my preferred name, God damn it. Yeah.

So okay. So the movie was directed by Tim Miller, who we already mentioned directed the first Dead Pole movie and that which was his directorial debut debut so I think it's probably a pretty big deal as far as the second movie for him, Like you get reins of the Terminator franchise, which is awesome, and it was written by pretty much an army of people, with a story credit going to Josh Friedman, who wrote the screenplay for War of

the Worlds. I'm assuming the original, not the Spielberg one, like you know, but uh. He was also one of the creators of the Sarah Chronicle Sarah Connor Chronicles, which I haven't seen yet, which I think Joe, you said you watched, Yeah, it's pretty good. Did you watch the whole thing? Uh, I'm just curious. No, I haven't. All right, like it was good, but not that good, not enough

where I'm like, oh fuck, I gotta keep watching this. I know I'm a Terminator fan, but I think it was also released at a time when like all I was doing was I mean, not that I say all I was doing was drinking and smoking weed. Not that that much has changed. I just don't smoke weed anymore, but like otherwise, it's when I was trying to I don't know, no, I know, and watching it when it's on as one thing that I watched it within the past few years

and just never got to Yeah like it was. It was fine, but it wasn't like like an pulling my interests. Yeah yeah, okay, uh so also so okay sorry. So also with the story credit is his name is Charles egg Lee or eaglely E g l E, who's written a lot of stuff for TV, including a couple of episodes of Dexter's Best Seasons, which I would say were three or four definitely four, and some of these when he has the laboratory, Yes, that's when. That's when he finishes

the laboratory. But then his sister won't stop bugging him. Oh yeah, d I think yeah, yep uh some episodes of The Shield The Walking Dead, and then one of his credits actually popped out to me he actually got to start writing the screenplay for Prana to the Spawning, Which is that click with anybody like why it's worth noting? No, I'm guessing. I'm guessing Linda Hamilton was in that movie. No, that's James Cameron's directorial debut.

Oh was it really before? I'm pretty sure he was fired and I looked it up and yes, he was fired. He was fired on the fIF day of shooting for that movie. Wow, And the story is is pretty great because I read a little bit of trivia from my IMDb, so I wanted to read it real quick because it was interesting. Although this is the first official directing credit for James Cameron, most of the work was actually performed by a video gs Sonidis Asenitis his lassis like ass o n Idis like he's

got like like he's someone's got as. I guess that quite often. Yeah, which that guy, so Asenitis was the film's producer and this prolific filmmaker, I've never heard of him. No, anyway, Asenitis had made a deal with the small label at Warner Brothers for a budget of five hundred thousand produced the movie, provided that an American was credited as director, which anyway.

Yeah. So after considering Miller Drake as a director but finding him unsuitable, I don't know who that is, but he gave the job to James Cameron after being impressed with his special effects on Galaxy of Terror, because he was the special effects guy on that. But what he really wanted was the first time or who who he could easily sidestep in order to take over basically

something here already done on a different movie. Yes. So, according to Dreaming Aloud, which was a biography of James Camera biography, Cameron worked on the film special effects, rewrote the script, created storyboards, did location scanting, and actually filmed for four days. However, Asenitis was called the shots thou shots, so continuously questioning Cameron's decisions, and he did not allow him to watch his own footage, and then I finally fired him on the fifth

day, reportedly because Cameron's footage wouldn't cut together. So later Cameron was able to convince Asenitis, sorry, that'd be a long movie to do. We keep seeing his name, to show him a rough cut of his footage, and Asenitis had pretty much manipulated the situation to rewrite half the movie, and he added nudity that wasn't originally in the script, which I'm sorting to like Asenitis. I think it was acid tits that he added. I don't call

him tits and itis. So James Cameron broke into the editing room every night for weeks and cut his own version of the movie, and unfortunately Asenitis found out, and he recut it again, and then The most widely distributed version is of the film is available is the Asenitis cut, although Cameron was later allowed to create a director's cut that saw a limited release. So the way he started off with him was yeah, but I think right after that that

was the one right before terminated. But anyway, I just thought that was interesting. But so pretty much everyone else's credit I probably should have read that like completely exc I did keep laughing about the whole thing. But pretty much everyone else credited is credited with both a story and a screenplay credit, except for one guy, Billy Ray, whose name might just very like it's impossible not to say, like Bill A. Ray and like a Southern accent.

I don't know why. Anyway, Billy Ray has has a screenplay credit on this, and he actually has a pretty good track list as far as movies, so okay, so he's done gem and I Man with Will Slap Happy Smith, and he did Captain Phillips with Tom I like Pingon movies Hanks, which I was trying to think of, like look at me, look at me, I need the right to now or something like that. He does

like Pingian movies. Yeh, yeah, he does. By the way, this is this joke I tried on Erica and it bombed completely, But what does she know anyway? So okay, real quick, this is a quick sidetrack. You guys get like that slap right? Yes? Yes? Okay, Well, did you guys know the same thing happened to Chris Rock a few years back when he hosts the Grammys. Yeah, he started making fun of jeth Row Tall, but get got slapped by the flute player when he

made a bad joke about the flute. Everyone thought it was a bit until the flute player got back to a seat and starts yelling like keep my wife's name out of your fucking mouth. Keep my fife's name out your fucking mouth. Damn. That is super podcast over. It worked. I wouldn't call it worked. It was that good that took. Like. The whole reason that it came close when we were going to record the other day is because

it's been probably forty five minutes on that stupid joke. Actually just texting me in iroll, but uh yeah, the original was keep my five's frame at at your mouth because Chris Rock was using the flute and he's like keep my and he got mad that that Chris Rock was using his flute and he's like, keep my five's frame out your fucking mouth. I don't know. I

don't know which was way. It was better to go back anyway, moving on, So I can also imagine like the flute player like playing the flute as he's like does a little flute jig on the way back to his seat, you know, like frolicking like the pride piper. That's funny to me too. I don't even know what he looks like. Is there is there a more famous like flute player or band that has a flute player right now? No, I don't think so, okay, because I couldn't think of

anything anyway. So Billy Ray also wrote Volcano of Volcano. Volcano, it's a volcan So Billy Ray also he wrote Volcano with tom Ley Jones, which I like that movie. Okay, So that was so Volcano and Dante's Pa came around the same time, and Dante's Peak head Linda Hamilton mm hmm, but Volcano didn't am I getting that right? No, that's tomm Lee Jones and and hash okay, oh yeah, yeah, happening here that that was the one that was in the Volcanoes in l A M. Yeah, and

I like it's it's really stupid. But I like that movie. Is that the one where the guy just slowly gets uh burned up by lot Like I haven't seen that movie and forever I just feel like there's one scene, so I think he's the guy you're thinking of his trying to save people and they're on a subway train like he's yeah, yeah, like so so he's like they're they're like moving people off the subway that passed out because of the gas

or whatever, and they're moving him off and the lava is slowly moving yeah, and so he's gotta like it. It uh it covers the subway and there's like a big gap that he's gotta like jump and the people like all the people like just just no, leave the guy. The guy's like no, and so he jumps in the lava himself and then throws the guy towards them and then he just melts. It's it's it's it's it's a good movie. Plus he got Tommily Jones, who's just great and takes everything so seriously.

That anyway, so this guy also did that Richard Jewel movie, which is about the guy who was accused of the the Olympic bombing in ninety six that was supposed to be really good. But that Billy Ray he wrote that movie too. He has a lot of credits where I was like, holy shit, this guy wrote a lot of movies. But so yeah, anyway, everyone else has both a story and screenplay credit. First off, Justin Rhodes doesn't only have much as far as credits, a movie called Grassroots and

a movie called Contract Killers. Next we have David S. Goyer, who was so accurately called a nostalgia profiteer by a critic that I like for a review that I read by a critic for this movie that was like, that is the great description of him. So okay, so critics definitely don't like this dude, because I'm sure, like of like ninety nine percent sure that another review mentioned him as like when they were writing about it, they mentioned

his name and then put in parentheses. Wow, yeah, that's also not good writing. Whatever. Yeah, it was just like it was like, damn, that is rough calling him the kettle black there. But he has a ton of credits. He's uh, he's got a Call of Duty game, he's got Batman versus Superman, Man of Steel, all three Nolan Batman movies, the ghost Writer sequel Blade Trinity, which is supposed to be the worst one, but I liked it. But thinking about it, it probably

is the worst one out of those. Ever again, I enjoy it just fine, but it's definitely the worst one. Yeah, just because it's the worst one doesn't mean you don't enjoy it. Like, I am the worst one out of the three of us, but I think some people enjoy me, right, Like we've seen some there's my mom's listening. She well, no, she really likes Scres. What about Laura would yeah? She put Okay, So just because just because you're the worst one doesn't mean people don't

enjoy you. Maybe they like the other one's better. I like, you just brought the bar down for yourself. Yeah, people can still like being I think my mom liked I mean she's probably not, probably not her favorite son, but doesn't she doesn't like me? All right? So there, that's true. They got a point. There, Suck it, everybody. Have you seen Bla, You've seen Jo have you've seen all the Blades?

Yeah, but it's been like twenty years. So okay, because I'm trying to think of which one I like the best, and probably the second one, which I think is gear Mo. Yeah, he also wrote the first one too, David Gore. I was gonna say, I think I like the first one the best. Still, Okay, Yeah, he also wrote that that one too, So if if you don't like him, just switch over to the second one. But then he did Dark City, which is basically The Matrix, the year before The Matrix came out, and that's a

good movie. That is a good movie. So while writing the list of credits out, I realized that he basically just takes over other people's IP, the intellectual property, and then makes the worst version of it. Was super Most of them like, yeah, so he's not a hacker. He's not like taking over their Internet protocol that trys that sort of IP. Oh yeah,

I had to make sure. I was like, I know there's a word like the It's called IP. Then I was like, wait, I need to figure out what this stands for because I'm just gonna say IP and then I'm sure Chris knows what it means. But then I'm gonna sit there and pick it up. But uh, and I would say Dark Knight is probably the exception, but he only has a story credit on that one, which is funny because I'm isn't The story pretty much adapted from one of the

Batman like graphic novels. It's basically long Halloween plus like a Joker story. Like it's it's almost entirely long Halloween for Dark Knight, the Dark Knight. Yeah, okay, yeah, because then the third the third one is the main but yeah yeah yeah, okay, so then the last story, uh so so, and I'm assuming both those were mostly the Nolan's that made them. Yeah, I mean, uh, Johnsan Nolan also has a co writing credit on those, right, yes, yeah, yeah, so I'm pretty

sure the Nolans wrote most of it. And he it's a Batman or probably just walked in. He's like, hey, you should guys adopt these two uh things. He's like, oh, right, no problem, might and then they did it. Okay, well, and that's his first Christopher Nolan, Yeah, he bought them from the store. Uh, Christopher Nolan, he's the one they sent to the comic book store to pick up the comics

the Comox. Christopher Nolan has a British accent, but Jonathan Nolan doesn't really yeah, it's Jonathan Nolan has an American accent because they you know, obviously they're brothers. They might not be, you don't fucking know, but they moved at some point in their youth to like America. So Jonathan Nolan is

and Christopher was like, I'm gonna keep being pretentious. I amps Yeah, He's like, do you think I should just yeah, that's not Actually he talks, He's got like an accent like with someone that's someone like he's like walking along the street, like mind his own business, acting like you know, all British and stuff, and then like a Cardinals like hey, I'm walking here, come on. They're like, well, what happened? He's like, oh, Roy tay and then he adjusted tie. That's not like

you know, was quoting the movie. I was American accent, but something just print. What the hell was that noise? Uh? That was the I touched the chord. Apparently Erica's chord is just I need a good chord apparently. Sorry, So okay, let's move on. So so then the last, the last screenplay slash story credit is for some not name dude named Jim Cameron. He's written proana to First Blood part two, and then the

music video for the song reached by Bill Paxton's band Martini Ranch. Yeah, and I think he may have written a few more things, but I'm bothered looking at sh up Martini Ranch. Wow. Yeah, that's it. That's like a Jimmy Buffett tribute band is English. It sounds like it like what about like you know, margu Riitaville, Like, no, Martini Ranch. That's yesterday. I went over to a friend's house. He lives in the hills above Lake San Marcos. There was what did you have a friend?

That's fine? That anyway, there was a concert going on like down at the lake and you can kind of hear it from his house, and we looked up the band who was playing. The band playing was named Yachtlee Crue' that's a good by the way. They don't play Motley Crue. They play all soft rock. Yeh ya. Yacht rock is a thing. That's like, that's true, but don't name your fucking band crue. If you're not going to do yacht rock versions of Motley Crue exactly, that doesn't make any

sense. And they were all like what's the fucking word? They were all like naval themed names not navel, but like the songs no, no, no. All the members of the band, they all had stage names that were like nautical themed. That's what I was looking for. Ardic the Yeah, the singer was Philly Ocean. Were the players on different different They're all players on different famous people or musicians. Not all of them were musicians, so the uh, the drummer was Sailor Hawkins. Wow, that's yeah.

Which there was a little r I p on the web page for them or it could just change the name. They could, but they didn't. The guitarist was named Baba Booie, but like b you b u o y. Yeah, isn't that a racist thing? I don't fucking know. I feel like that's like a racist thing just because Howard Stern was well, I'm sure it's still a little bit bit of a dick, but like a dick towards that guy. I don't know. Uh. Their keyboardist was named poly Shores

and they're let's come on, I would tell you. I know, it's like it's not even you gotta try harder. No, yeah, pick another one. And then their saxophonists was named something else Shores like I don't even know if it was named after a famous person, or if he just was

like, yeah, my last name Chortes too. See, this band should have like covered the song doctor feel Good, but be about like you know, they're like general practitioner, you know, like oh, like manee is swollen, or like I got some osteoporosis or something, you know, and he's the one they call doctor feel Good. But he just gives them like prescription medicine. He just like helps them along, you know, it's an act, just the game gives them a name of a good physical therapist exactly.

Yeah. He's not like a drug dealer or anything like as in the regular song. He's just a regular ass doctor. It's like I'm getting a guy like tennis elbow, you know. He's like, oh here, like get this little armband here and all fucking doctor feel Good over here. Like that's what you should be doing for yacht lie Crue. If you're doing a rock a yacht rock cover band of Motley Crue, that's how you do it. So uh, hit me up that Ley Crue. I'll fucking teach you

a thing or two. So okay. So one thing that I found was interesting was he actually did write First Blood Part two, which yeah, which I was like, oh, I didn't know that because I was trying to find stuff that he wrote that. I was like, okay, sorry, another side track. Worst naming conventions in movie history. You have you have fast and Furious, and then you have two fast too furious, Like it should be the faster and the furious. Sure, and then you go out

with a third one after too Fast to Furious. You should have three fast, three furious, but they didn't do that. And then you have First Blood Part two. Why isn't it just called second Blood? Truly? I mean I get it, like they drew first Blood, but like First Blood Part two is stupid Like second Blood, it's great fucking there. So Cameron is also one of the executive producers of the movie, which made for some

pretty interesting stories with him and Tim Miller. But we'll get into that stuff after it, like for the trivia, because there's a lot there's some good stuff with that where it was like basically James Cameron and James Cameron. So according to IMDb, Terminator Dark Fate had a budget of one hundred and eighty five million, but then you got week Wikipedia Wikipedia claiming that it went as high as one ninety six. By the way, do we I think we

did, but I drink too much. Did we figure out if marketing doesn't factor into the budget right now? They never revealed the marketing budget basically okay.

It was supposed to have its Hollywood premiere on October twenty eight, twenty nineteen, but it was canceled because of the fires at the time, which I think were those Malibu fires probably, But so it was released nationwide on November one, twenty nineteen, and opened number one at the box office with twenty nine million, but was apparently disappointment and considered a bad opening because it was projected to do about forty to forty seven million. Yeah so yeah,

at least eleven to fourteen million short. It then fell into fifth place the following week with the four with the top four big new releases. So you had the Midway, which I think was a World War two movie, Doctor Sleep. That's a good movie playing I was gonna ask guys about in the second but playing with Fire, which was I looked at it. Oh, it's a John Cena movie. I think about him. Oh the Fire for the kids Fire? Yeah, yes, yes, so it's this is like

Order. By the way, so number one was Midway, don two is Doctor Sleep. Number three was Playing with Fire, and then you had Last Christmas is at number four, which was an Amelia Clark movie. Oh that's the one where yeah. Yeah, by the way, how was Doctor Sleep? You said? Joe said it was good? Yes, so it is. Okay, So the book Doctor Sleep is the sequel to the book The Shining and the movie Doctor Sleep is a sequel to the movie The Shining but

great if you would admit it a sequel to a different one. And for the movie yeah, okay, that's a sequel to Maximum Overdrive. Uh, Stephen King's been silver for thirty years back in the Cocaine Overdrive to like him doing what Actually, it's just him going to the store buying some fruit, go and get a coffee, following him around for a day. Anyway, he sleeps a lot. That's why they call him Doctor Sleep. No. So the guy who directed Tim Flanagan is him and Frank Derabot, I think

do the by far the best job of adapting Stephen King. What did they do besides that? Uh? Wait? What? Who? What did Flanagan make besides it's Mike Flanagan, not Tim. Yeah, that well, Frank Derabat didill. Why you look it up? So he did Gerald's Game? How was that Gerald? It was on Netflix? Yeah, it was a Netflix movie. It's a I mean, I I honestly have no idea why anybody decide to make a movie about this, because it's literally my old spoilers

for the first like ten to fifteen percent of the movie. It's a woman and her husband Gerald. They go to a cabin to do like some weird kinky sex stuff and he like handcuffs her to the bedpost and then he dies, And the rest of the fucking book is just her in her head the entire time. So somehow we can do like a spoiler thing. Do you care because I kind of want to hear the end of this, but I didn't because I know what the movie's about. She thinks there's someone in the

room. Yeah, I mean that's kind of what happens. I've actually seen the movie to the truth, But did you read the book? Yes, so what happens. I'm okay with cutting it out if I don't want, I honestly don't. You don't remember if there's actually someone in the room, for it's actually I don't remember, okay, but did she come Yeah, of course, I mean I just came that anyway, go ahead. But what else did he do? Well, Doctor Sleep? I guess okay, so that was good though, Yes, yeah, that was a like he

m okay. So I think the best adaptation of I guess the best film slash TV thing that captures the greatness of Stephen King like the universe is Stranger Things, which is not a Stephen King thing, but those guys originally wanted to make it. They didn't get the rights, so they made Stranger Things. But like Stranger Things is like what fucking great Stephen King is like in film or TV form. So I think probably the best actual adaptation of Stephen

King stuff is shawshank redeption. But Doctor Sleep has that same sort of feel that Stranger Things does, and it does a fucking great job of like the Stephen King mythos and everything in adapting the book. They do a great job of adapting the book to that and kind of tying it all together, and it makes you feel like you're actually like in the story, like so much like so much of this shit is just like, oh like horror stuff.

Let's just make a fucking horror movie or whatever. But Doctor Sleeve just does a fucking excellent job of encapsulating that Stephen King feel so, yeah, good job. Does that one take place at the hotel? No, So it's it's basically it's Danny Torrance the kid but as an adult. Yeah, so okay. So the Book of the Shining is is it's a metaphor for alcoholism and like addiction, like all the demons and the haunting and shit like in the book is like the inner demons and all that. Like he's ruining and

killing his family because of his alcoholism. Blah blah blah. The movie takes a lot of livers with that and just makes it like scary or whatever. But Danny is struggling with the same alcoholism and being a piece of shit, like as an adult, and it's him kind of getting over that, but also then having a like shining in a link with a kid. And then there's these spiritual bad people who like to kill people who have this shining and

suck the steam from them. When you say when you say that he was getting over it, are you talking about getting over it like he cured his alcoholism or he get getting over it, like he came to peace with his alcoholism and has now it's just like a super alcoholic. He's just like a fuck it exactly. He's like drinking, I don't have a problem. You

have a problem. You only call it a problem if you're doing uh no he he as they say in the addiction world, like he is rock bottom and then he gets sober, but then like the Shining portion comes back, but he has to help somebody else. So I should probably just read to we just watched the movie, like it's a really good movie. You should Most of this is probably gonna get cut just because I'm it's most of me

asking questions and is it even horror? There are some disturbing scary parts, but I would say this is this is one of the Stephen King movies that I have the easiest time watching because it's not really that scary. Did you? But I also didn't find The Shining scary at all, except for that one scene that I wasn't like because I've never seen it before with the with the gross lady, and that's only because like she turned gross after being like naked and hot. Yeah, And I was like, I would say it's

it's not as creepy as The Shining. Yeah, but I also stammered when I watched The Shining because I thought it was gonna be scary. It's it's not a scary movie. It's more of a super natural movie. Okay, again, there are a couple of parts that I found, you know, a little disturbing, but aside from that, it's yeah, yeah, okay,

but it's just it. It encapsulate, encapsulated the feel of the book, which is so rarely done with his work, even like stuff that he works on, like the recent The Stand mini series, like did not have that. It he was in it chapter two, and it didn't have that because there's like, oh looking scary stuff. It's like, now there's the whole metaphysical fucking thing going on. But yeah, Doctor sleep Is is a

great film, So I highly suggest it. I heard one person describe it it's almost like a superhero movie taking place in the Stephen King universe, which it kind of is. Yeah, that's it. It's pretty weak. Does he bust out a lightsaber or something? You know, Okay, you're not

superhero. So yeah. So Terminator went on to gross and estimated one hundred and eighty five million domestically and then had a worldwide gross of two hundred and sixty one million, So early estimates said that it needed to make at least four hundred and fifty million worldwide just to break Eating so Yukes. Uh so

the movie was actually the second biggest bomb of twenty nineteen. And I would I would say, let's go. I was gonna say, you want to guess, but it's I don't even remember what came out then, So it's it's a superhero movie, biggest bomb of twenty nineteen. Yeah, it's a Marvel movie. Oh, it's a Marvel movie, but it's not like it's not like an actual Marvel movie. It's like a it's like a Sony or Fox sort of Marvel movie, like that X Men. Yeah, okay,

okay, it was X Men. No, it was Derk Phoenix. I was gonna say New Mutants, but then I was like that this came out they pushed in the Pandemic. But yeah, that movie, which makes sense because that movie sucked so awful. I haven't seen it, but it's ever Yeah, but it's like the guy, what was it the director to its like a second shot at doing the same story, but then he did a bad job with it the second time too. It was Brian Singer, right,

Brian Singer. He wrote the first he wrote Tea uh sorry, t he wrote X Men like, but then he directed it yeah yeah, but then he directed X three. Yeah, but then he directed Dark Phoenix. Yes, so I'm not sure if he still did a bad job. But he did a bad job with Apocalypse too. I was expecting it to be bad. Okay, so which it kind of sucks that the kind of sucks at Terminator Bomb though, Because'm pretty sure the the franchise is kind of dead

in the water as far as new movies now. I don't think they're gonna let I don't know. I don't think they're gonna let it die until until Arnold is no longer willing to make him true. But they also I think they're doing a Netflix series or something like that was the lasting announced. Yeah, and I think a lot of this movie struggled from the fact that all the other movies existed between T two and this. Yeah, so it's like

even a good third movie. Yeah. Yeah. So anyhow, so let's check let's move on and check out some promo material and like I said before, Uh, there's a lot of it, So we're not going to cover everything because there is so much of it. So we're gonna cover cover some stuff, and then I'm gonna end up leaving the rest of this stuff from when we inevitably do another one of his movies that doesn't really have any promo stuff for it, which I think we have at least a few more of

those. Cool. But uh so let's start off with mccarnay. So anyway this uh so, yeah, let's start off with Mackenzie Davis, who plays Grace in the movie. Uh, this is her on Kimo, but but uh yeah, we're gonna jump around a little bit. Uh First, we're gonna start with her talking about Arnold, the Arnold movie she watched when she was younger, and then like a funny story, she has a funny story she has about Arnold, and then we'll check on one more after that.

We were just talking about Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is your co star movie had you would you watch these Terminator movies like as a younger, as a kid, I mean they would be old even when you were a kid, but wasn't exposed to them by my parents. But I was more of a sort of Junior fan. I see more of a twins gal Oh oh Junior the movie. Oh I see okay, it's a child, yeah Junior. Yeah right, So you knew him from like these comedies, not really the action

movies that most people know him from. That's true. Yeah, And when you met Arnold, didn't he do anything weird, because it seems like that's the thing. Was he squatting or anything like that. He wasn't squatting. No, He's really lovely. He was like really really warm and encouraging, and he he quotes himself a lot, which I thought is just like the most endearing quality, like really getting his people what they want to catch phrases, Yeah, yeah, like what did he say? Well, he kept

well. So again, I'm more familiar with Junior, so I missed a lot of the references, but I would he would be talking about something and I was like, there is no chopper, Why is everybody talking about getting? Which I still am not sure where that's from, but I understand from context clues. He would yell that just randomly throughout the day, well not throughout the day, but like at the end of a scene to celebrate I

see just to get everybody fired up. Wow, Yeah, that's fun when it is fun when some of these people you would think might possibly be tired of saying this stuff. There are a lot of celebrities become known for like saying something and then and then they won't say it at all. You'll never stop saying it. He does not. He's constantly. He says it really at the end of every see you, by the way, at the beginning

of this movie. So yeah, so then, by the way, it seriously trips me out how much he looks like Robin Wright, Like, yeah, a lot. Yeah, but uh anyhow so, yeah, Robin Wright's buff sister throbbing, right, she's throbbing after those workouts. Yeah, exactly. Yep. That wasn't that for off the top of the dome? Yeah, because that was like we're gonna be here for a second. But yeah,

you got that right away. So anyway, so this is a little later in the interview, and it's her telling Jimmy a funny story that happened while she was on the set of the movie. Was at four forty nine straight right, you brought something you did a little bit of art as well. Now, before I show this, because I'm interested in explain what we're

going to see here. Well, I on the very first day of filming, I was on set and it was this big outdoor crowd scene that was supposed to look like Mexico City in Madrid, and I didn't really have anything to do. I was just sort of in the background that day, and I was looking through the crowd and I saw this enormous man in this sort of tan oversized suit, and then next to him this very small, round

man in this oversized tan suit. And I thought that for me or for everybody, the costume designers and the sort of background performer organizers had this Twins easter egg in the movie that which, if you're not familiar, is an Arnold the Sortzenegger and Dan need to beat a movie with a tall and everyone knows. We all know. Yeah, So this was because people are puzzled. Now, so there are these two people. There are these two people. Again, did not have a lot to do that day, and so

I spent most of the day trying to get a picture of them. But they were also really elusive, like they knew their power and were leading me on a little ea. So I never got a picture of them. But I told your producer yesterday the story, and she emailed me this morning to ask if I had a picture, and I said no, let me sketch one up quickly. And this was my second trial. So this is the second saying, yeah, what did the first trial look like? That's Arnold,

So just so you know, a child's jarring. Yeah, it looks like a little a tall man and a short man with the same outfit, with what appeared to be the roofs of They got like little unrolled condoms on the top of their heads. That's exactly baby bottle nipples. If we post the stuff on social media, I'd post a picture of this. But and then that's Danny Davito. But they were running, and so he doesn't have any shoes because they were didn't even have any feet, never mind shoes.

Yeah, so you would make a wonderful police sketch. They never catch anybody. Yeah, you did capture something really special here. Well, thank you for bringing this. Do you mind if I keep this from my home? Yeah? Oh, thank you very much. So I figured out after watching this that a lot of these clips come from Kimmel, because I honestly didn't bother looking up any foulon Tonight Show clips because I think I made it pretty clear I feel about the newton Night Show. Yes, and I only do

it if I can't find anything else or if it's good enough. But uh well, another quick side note. The only other thing I seen Mackenzie Davison is a recent holiday movie called Happiest Season. He and Kristen Stewart, and that movie is delightful. So Christen Stewart is the Twilight Girl right correct? Her and mild spoilers heard Mackenzie Davis are dating, but somebody doesn't want to tell their family that they're dating because oh yeah the chicks. Okay, yeah,

I remember when that movie came out. Yeah, it's delightful. You should watch it, Coke, all right, I don't. I don't watch those movies in this area. It says says like, let's watch this. Yeah, I mean I watch it with it's no like holiday classic jing all the way, but it's yeah. I'm also enjoy with with romantic comedies because a lot of them suck. Yeah, the ones that are good are really good. But yeah, anyway, uh so, uh so, yeah, like I said, well, my side note is just uh, nowhere near

where Joseph went. But I know I bitch a lot about late night shows. When we watched some letterming comes during the red heat the last episode, and I was listening to Conan's podcast, Conan O'Brian needs a friend, check it out. You know it's funny and Charlie can use plugs. So here's the plug for that. But they see you with the Potty Richter boost the

exactly podcasts, they owe us a plug now. So yeah, waiting on that Conan, but one of his guests mentioned mentioned something about the current iteration of the Tonight Show with Fallon, and Conan kind of made a little dig at him, just something, just like a real quick like, oh, look at me, I'm Jimmy fall Sorry, look at me. I'm Jimmy

Fallon. We like to play games on my show. And it was like, uh, but it also like, for some reason that comment and me watching newer clips from the twenty nineteen all these ones of late nighte appearances, maybe realize that it's completely different now than what it used to be. Like there aren't really any hosts that do it the old school way except for Jimmy

Kimmel. I would say. I again, I might be completely off base because I don't actually watch a ton of this, Like I've never really seen too much of Colbert or Seth Myers, but I'm pretty sure they're more politically driven with their stuffs, which is fine, but it's completely different than like

a formula than that true traditional late night show. And it seems like the exception, like I said, is Jimmy Kimmerol that has the like like the old formula, which is monologue, maybe a sketch, guest one, guest, two band, comedian, which kind of seems like it died when Conan stopped the show because I'm pretty sure both Fellon and James Corden do a lot of games and that with like the specific intent of going viral, which I get because that's how stuff works now. Yeah, And there's no point that

I was trying to make. It's just weird to me. And I don't know how I didn't realize this before, like, like watching it this last time, all of a sudden, I was like, holy shit. And then once Coded made the comment, I can tell it bugged him to stuff like that, which it would especially because he seems very uh like the way he like Adores Letterman, which sucks, but the way he does Letterman and and Johnny Carson, who also seemed like he sucked. But yeah, but

Letterman was Conan's Conan. Like that generation of people and comedians, they would tune into Letterman in the eighties as we would to Conan in the nineties, exactly like how everyone that goes on Conan's podcast talks about Conan. I watched you when I was yeah, because like I don't know, like there's definitely a dearth that, like no one's tuning into the fucking Tonight Show now to watch Jimmy Fallon, Like no, he gives a fuck. It's about production

and writing in games and like as you said, like viral stuff. Yeah, and nobody actually, nobody fucking likes James Gordon, like or Gordon or what his name is, Like people hate and I don't mind him anymore, just from watching so many of these it's it's I don't mind him, but to watch that, you know, like, uh, I think Conan and I never watched a lot of Craig Ferguson, but people fucking love that guy.

Yeah, he was he was good. I feel like those were the two like like you know, back in the day, they're like, oh, let's watch let's watch the Carson as well, people would say like, let's watch the tonight show, which Carson, Let's watch the Carson. Let's watch Letterman, or let's watch Conan. Those aren't the names of the shows, you know, these are just the guys they run, and you wanted to watch those guys. And now it's like no one's like, let's watch

the Fallon or you know, like let's watch the Court. Like nobody gives a fuck about those particular people. They're they're they're the uh, they're the bread to the sandwich. Yeah, you know, no one's like I want to I want a Brio sandwich. No one says I want I mean Brosch's bamas. Fuck, But no one says like I want a Brio sandwich. They want a fucking turkey sandwich. Like Conan and Letterman and Ferguson were like the turkey or the roast beef and everything and everything else is kind of the

bread. Now those guys, and I mean they're white, so they're the fucking white bread and like the other stuff that happens are like the meat now so well, yeah, like it's like tuning into see the games. It's basically watching trying to watch a celebrity like make fool of themselves or like a nostalgia ship, which is one thing that I fucking hate about Jimmy Fallon. It's just feeding off nostalgia stuff, getting like people to like do stuff,

which again is stupid. Because I also was digging one of the dated to stay by the belt thing. I was like, that's cool, liken'n tell Jimmy Fallon how to insert himself into the sketch. And I was like, I fucking hate you so much. But anyway, yeah, anyway, like I said, there's no point I was trying to make. But having said that, let's move away from jim Jimmy Kimmel for a minute and got Linda

Hamilton. So yeah. So this is Arnold and Linda Hamilton being interviewed for Entertainment Tonight, with Linda Hamilton talking about coming back into the role after almost thirty years. I've been hearing from everybody that you set the tone on set, Linda, that you were this leader and that they all looked up to you and your work ethic and what you brought to the character. How fun was it? And also how hard was it for you to come back and

do this movie. Well, I think people are being very kind to say that I set the tone and it was they all just got so excited about guys came in. The ladies are fantastic, and I don't think I had anything to add to their performances. They stood alone and they stood strong. They were so prepared mckent. I watched mackenzie work. You know, we went to gun camp together in Texas, and I was actually feeling a little

when we were in Texas. I was just like, oh, I am just never going to be able to not compete with that, but to even match that. And you know, she just had so many skills and she could do a magazine change with her weapon and a little flip and you know, all in one motion. And I'm struggling with my tiny hands. And then to unlearn what I had learned in nineties, in the early nineties, because we don't handle weapons this way anymore. It's now this and so the

more comfortable. Okay, that's the whole reason that I played this. I let it play like I'll let it play it a second in a second, but like Okay, I'm gonna let it finish. And then I have a question about about that where she's talking about how to handle the guns. Okay, well, I began with the became with the weapons. The more or my muscle memory would make me do the wrong thing, and it was frustrating.

So I was I was alarmed. But certainly when I show up on set, I'm just all in and they are too, by the way, so they're just being kind to me. But we did I think the fact that the three of us were so committed and really fierce women and very good actresses. If one of us had been a weak link, it all would have tumbled down, you know. But we really elevated each other every day, and they elevated me as much as I elevated them, that's for sure. So she can figure it. Okay. So anyway, first of all,

the gun thing, which is weirded me out. Like so she was mentioning carrying guns differently, like she was mentioning. What she did was she put her hand under Okay, So so she she had her hand under the like under the gun, like holding it. Yeah yeah, so like you've never seen that in like cop movies. Yeah, Well, they have. Are you're not supposed to hold it like that anymore? Yes, yeah, I guess that's what she's saying. I always understood you put your non dominant

hand under your dominant hand. I didn't know if you know they don't do that anymore. Apparently, I guess not. Yeah, okay, I just thought maybe I know. I knew once I typed the question, I was like, these fucking dorgs I'm gonna know about guns. They're not men, goad. We didn't get some men on this podcast. This is sad podcast doesn't know. Uh, fuck you know what guns are fucking stupid. I'm sorry. I agree, that's what I don't know about it. I've build

it like twice in my life. I've peed my pants both times. Yeah, I've shot plenty of guns. But this gun culture, like guns are cool and like you're badass because you hold a gun, and it's like, no, it's fucking dumb. Fuck guns, and fuck you. I don't care who's listening. Fuck you. If you're like all into super guns and gun makes you cool and tough, it doesn't make you cool, it doesn't

make you tough. You just have like a weapon of fucking destruction in your hand and all this bullshit about like, oh, like if they had a good guy with a gun, there would just stuff the bad guy. But how about if the bad guy didn't have a gun, Like, oh, knights can still kill people. But yeah, you know, how hard is the fucking knife? Like three people I've tried. I'm a Raiders fan. It's very difficult to knife multiple people. But guns are fucking dumb, and

just because you carry one doesn't make you tough. In fact, that is the opposite of making you tough, because you need something of like mass power in order to fucking compliment you in your body. Guns are stupid And if you think guns are super cool, then are dumb. Then again, firing guns are pretty cool. So yeah, I think guns are hot, like cool, Like you feel cooler when you have one. Yeah, yeah,

it's shooting shooting someone I'm sure is super cool. Okay, So I have this idea of like wearing sunglasses and listening to rap music or like the same thing, because it makes you feel way cooler than you actually are. I think some people have this idea of like guns are the same thing, Like you have a gun, which makes you like much cooler than you actually are,

but in reality it just makes you kind of a fucking douchebag. Like to actually like carry and be really in the guns, like shooting a gun occasionally is fun, but for the most part, guns are fucking dumb. Guns are dumb, and you're a fucking loser if you're like super into guns, so suck my balls. And if you want to come at me with a gun, come out with a gun, and that will just go and prove my fucking point that you're a fucking Jabbroni with your stupid guns. However,

guns and movies are awesome, So I really like that. That's why I made this podcast. Podcast is the anti gun. Yeah, I'm a anti gun. I'm very anti violence. Like any real violence that I see, like any sort of fight or anything just disgust me. But any sort of a fake violence or gore, I am all about that. And I don't know why. It's not just like it's not just like me like having

a moral obligation or like morally opposed anything. It's just like when I watch like real violence, it's just makes you feel gross, but when I watch fake violence, it makes you feel great. Violence is gross, like it is a huge fucking difference between what happens on the mood. Like movie violence looks cool because there's a whole team of people trying to make it look cool. Yeah, and it's not real. Yeah. I'm also anti violence,

but it's mostly because I'm a pussy. Please don't hit me, if you, if you, if you actually know what we look like and see us Joe's user his own. If you disagree and want to hit me, if you wanna, if you wanna come, come and like agree like with I don't know, just don't hit me, please, I'm I will cry, Yeah, like I figured that's a defense mechanism. I'm not gonna fight back. I mean I try. But like if it's a big guy and he like he's like threatening me, do you think he would still do it?

If you like played like a like basically like a dog that turns over and put on his belly and then it's like no, don't like please please, Like that's basically what I do. Like it. Like, let's say you like took your pants off and like look at taking your clothes off and like, oh my god, dude, I was just about to saying that. The ultimate disfusion diffusion. If somebody's like ready to fight or beat the shit out of you, let's go bro and rip off your shirt, then your

pants, then in your underwear. I guarantee you no one is going to fight you after that. They're gonna be like, what the fuck? I don't know what is going on. I like, not even fight because that guys homophobia is probably way worse than his rage. But speaking about all this, Okay, so we're like three straight dudes. We're not and we had also what yes, I'm not Hey, ain't no part of white. You got no white? No, no, you don't have any white either.

You're like, my dad's very honky. Yeah, well okay, my dad's the whitest parent out of all of ours. So but he's also very brown. So yeah, but Chris is actually white. Like oh but anyway, good. So we're three straight dudes making a podcast about Arnold movies. We are not like the bastion of super white straight Yeah, we're not the Yes, we're not the bastion of uh, you know, feminism or anything.

Uh. And also the idea of like, you know, feminism is when women take manly qualities and like shoot guns and ship and that's also whatever. I'm not gonna say it's good to bad. I don't know, Like I said, just a straight dude. However, when it comes to og, like badass women, you have like Ripley, and we have Lenna Hamilton and Terminator two, like she is like the og. She's like the og when it comes to that shit. So definitely better written, like best written female

strong female characters exactly. And I just want to be on the fly on the wall of like these other women that were in this movie, like being able to be the gun toting like kick ass women, and like working with Lenna Hamilton and not just Lena Hamilton, but Lenna Hamilton as Sarah Connor and just see it and you know she talks about this like she doesn't you know, these women are like I'll know more about guns and shit than her.

But just that kind of dichotomy interest me. So which will we will I'm assuming get into because like part of my problem with this is the way one of the characters are written. But it's only one of the characters that are the ones are I think fine, but and it's just it's one of the it's anyway, uh okay, so uh let's see so uh yeah, so this next one is Arnold and Linda again, but this time on The Graham Norton Show, which is a British late night talk show, which is actually

pretty good. Yes, very I would. I would put Graham Norton up there. Uh so, yeah, he's a he's a good he's more traditional the traditional style which we were talking about, like basically playing the straight man to the guest who you basically when you're doing that, you try your damness to make look good slash funny and don't just sit there laughing in your hands like a fucking phone like stone fourteen year old falin cough but uh any shots

that can take apparently. Anyhow, Graham Norton asked Noma Hamilton what it was like having a twin sister, and she tells, a I'm gonna I'm gonna say interesting story. So the link's on there already. Yeah, and fallon if you're listening. First of all, thank you all. If you have any rebuttal or anybody that works on the show, come on our show and like, let's talk about this. Also mentioned tweet about it, yeah and talk about it, and you know, Instagram and just get her name out

there. Yes, exactly, Linda, you had not really specifically growing up you were a twin. I was. And now we've had male twins on the show talking about how they'd kind of mess around with girlfriends and da da da da. I'm delighted to know that female twins do the same thing to boys. Yeap. Yes, we played games and kept it interesting as much as possible. You know, had boyfriends that could only tell us apart by our jewelry, So we'd slip my wonders and we would slip in the bathroom

trade jewelry, come out and visit with our other boyfriend. Did you did you Leslie? Did you get confused with Leslie? Just once? I did never know. As a matter of fact, her sister was on a set, Power set, our set, okay, and we did a scene together because there was a scene where she actually lifted out the cylinder out of my head, which was kind of the energizer, And it was a scene that was supposed to be in a mirror and so the sister played the other woman

and they looked absolutely identical. It was like so real that it was actually like it looked like a mirror image. And they had to kind of coordinate how they make the moves and ordered stuff so it looks like a mirror image. It was like, really amazing of having assisted that looks exactly like you, right, But Arnold didn't know she was on board until you know, we were in the trailer and he was just kind of up behind her close

and then he looked over and saw me. You don't know. I was not so lucky because my twin brothers any divido, Well, that's it's a little bit easier for her to identify us because only our mother can tell us about it. Again with the lines. Okay, so speaking of late night talk shows, I've always wondered about this because all late night talk shows have when we're looking at them as a viewer, host on the right and the guests on the left. But the Graham Norton show does it the other way.

Is that because like they drive on the other side on the street in Britain or no? But seriously, that's like I've always wondered why talk show didn't try that, Like having the host with does do that? I don't know, but he's British. Yeah, I don't know, I don't I'm fucking em in the show. I actually do think Gordon is on the left side and the guests are on the right. Well, he's also British, so I also like how Graham Norton brings everybody out the same time. It's

kind of nice. I think it makes everyone more comfortable and like just the the energy is way better in all the interviews. So uh anyways, yeah, that story was, uh okay, that's the switching. The switching the boyfriend's thing, I was like interesting, interesting. Yeah, So moving on, go back to Kimmel with Natalia Reyes, who plays Danny in the movie, telling Jimmy a story about Arnold a comic con but first coming out in

probably the best looking Arnold mask I've ever seen. Please welcome to Talia reys Like, holy shit, Like, whoa that thing is? I'm pretty sure that's what they used for the movie. Totally shit, but like it is realistic as fuck, Like it's freaking me out because her head is way too fucking big, like her her head is too small for the mask is too big for her like body, basically for her body, which whoa. Okay, So for the listeners at home is the Halloween themed episode and I forgot

to mention des dressed Jimmy Kim dressed as orange. It's a circus peanut. Yeah, okay, yeah, so she came out in like address, but in Arnold mass that looks realistic as fuck, just ridiculously realistic Arnold mat like the Arnold with his half his face torn off and the terminator showing yes, but the terminator dark fate Arnold. Yeah, so the older one, I think. I think part of it is the fact that the the eye that's like his human eye is it's very small. So yeah, the hole is

meets up right with her eye. Yeah, so it's but then like if if they actually like colored the other eye, it'd probably look like it would look really good. So okay. So the last thing with her real quick is a skip forward a little bit and check her doing her Arnold impression, which just kind of made me laugh. Are you going to like a Halloween party or participating you're dressing up or anything after this? Well I have Are you going to wear that? I mean I'm sure tonight, yeah, absolutely

scared. Yeah, put that over one more second, would you mind? I will, Yeah, put that on him? And do you do Arnold at all? Do you do an imitation of him. I'm not great at it. Okay, well, absolutely fantastic to be here. That's pretty good. That's not bad at all. I like she's got his like, uh a part of it down, but she can't. She's got like the cadence and stuff. Now like she's not doing really an Austria no accent whatever.

But yeah, yeah, honestly, like if I went to a Halloween party with my wife and then she rolled up and then also wearing that mask, I would slightly question for a second, be like oh shit, like I would leave my wife for this, but like for like half a second, like now fuck that. But she's but only if she keeps the mask on all the time. Exactly. She's really hot and her mask, and I'm sure if it was Arnold still, well that's a given. Yeah, there's

no question about that. We don't have to like that's we ain't got to bring it up, like I don't even dudes, but you know, like whatever, we're still with the still in Jimmy Kimel this time when Arnold the peril on the show, and I like how you can always tell which host Arnold likes or gets along with. Slash considers his friend because he is on Kimmel Kimmel's show quite a bit like he was on there recently, as opposed to like the nineties and the two thousands or whatever, when he was pretty

much like exclusively on Leno's tonight's show because they're friends. Yeah, so which is again is just like another dig it Jimmy kim or Jimmy Fallon. But anyway, anyway, so this first part is him talking to Jimmy about the fires that I mentioned earlier and what he did with his animals. So I'm very impressed that you're here because you had to be evacuated from your home last night. Correct, But that's nothing for an action hero. Come on,

that's true, that's a baskay. I mean, I'm a positive person. I tell you that I'm happy that my house hasn't been down. I am sure you are, and I'm sure you too. You have evacuated. No, No, I wasn't. My brother was. But I live in a different part of town. Oh yeah, so are you disappointed? I was disappointed. I was not evacuated. I just regular. So you have a lot of animals, right, yeah, I have a pony, a miniature pony. I have two dogs. Yeah, there's a lot of activity up

there. What do you do with the pony? You throw that in the trunk? Or how does that go? Do you ride the pony out? We send it to sleeping camp. I see when sleeping camp sleep away this, Yes, sleeping camp doesn't sound so good. But yeah, well it's you know, you put a dog to sleep. You don't really know? Yeah, no, because you want to make it clear you did not you did not euthanize your pony. I've only been in America for fifty one years.

Yes, How is it possible that your accent has not subsided? Even there's the slightest drink, you maintain this accent. How can that be? I think it is something to do that I'm hanging out with sly Resolve. I do want to ask you something about slide, but I want to ask you a couple more things about these fires because you were gone. Okay, I'm gonna actually we're gonna skip forward and check out his stillone story because it's pretty good. And have you have you guys? Do you guys either?

If you guys know what he might be talking about coming out? Now? Okay, cool, that makes it way better. You mentioned Sylvester Stallone, And I want to ask you a story I heard about Sylvester s alone you. Is it true that you trick Sylvester Stallone? Who is Is he a friend and arrival or just a rival? No? No. In the in the eighties, he was just survived, just arrived. It was just competition.

It was all about who is making bigger movies, Who has more definition and the muscles, Who has more box office success, Who kills more people, who kills people more creative? Who has bigger knives, Who has bigger guns? And I started running around the machine guns that were only used for helicopters, mounting on helicopes all times. It was crazy. It was all out war. It was war. So the story goes that you somehow tricked him into making a very bad movie. Is that true? Yes? But

it's part of the on the world. How did you do that? How did you pull that all? Because they came to me, because they Hollywood knew that I was wanting to get out of just doing action movies and do comedies. That's why I did Then Twins in Kindergarten, cop and right like that. But so they came to me with this other movie and I forgotten what it was called stop on my Mother exactly, that's right. And so I read the script and it was a busy and so I say to myself,

I'm not gonna do this movie. So then they went to Sly and then Sly called me and it says, hey, have they ever talked to him about this movie? And I said, yes, I was thinking about doing it. This is a really brilliant idea, is this movie? And so but when he heard that, because he was in competition, he immediately called him and says, look, whatever it takes, I did the movie. So we did the movie. Wow, the movie. I may changed

the toilet happy. I'm so happy about it. Okay, first of all, like the crowd fucking loves him, even this was about three years ago, and his his like when he comes out, they when he comes out, they go nuts like it's it's which is great, and he's it's Yeah. He's one of those people that you actually have to wait for the audience to settle down before they can start talking, which is not everybody anymore.

Yeah, especially when you see his co stars, which again they're not his face like nowhere his famous, but still like it's just I think it's just a whole Christmas thing. He's just a better interview too than where he I don't know he knows that it anyway, it's just me gushing now apparently, but so okay. So he also tells a great OJ story but the original Terminator that I'm sure we're definitely going to check out when we do that movie,

because I got to save something for that. But it's a story that I'm sure we both know how OJ was originally chosen for the role or considered for the role. But just the way he tells it is it is great. So it's it's it's good. But anyhow, So okay. The next one has nothing to do with the movie, and it's actually the thing that I text you both about to see if you'd heard about. And it's an incident that happened in twenty nineteen in South Africa at one of his competitions,

like is a like athletic competitions for kids. It's like kind of like a mini Olympics sort of thing, a bunch of different competitions. Anyway, I do know this story. But yeah, okay, so yeah, so Joe, you know what kind of happened, right, Yeah, okay, okay, So anyway, so yeah, so I found a news story covering it that's a couple minutes long, but we'll check it out because they explained it

quicker and way better than I'm going to be able to. So studying video out of South Africa tonight that shows a man drop game former Governor Arnold Schwarzenaker. But like his iconic character the Terminator, Schwarzenegger proves once again that at seventy one, he really is super human. Sibbyss Tom Wade is here to show us this bizarre incident. Tom, Yes, readon one. When you see this video, it's pretty shocking what happens Tom, and of course his

recovery is really impressive as well. It's jarring and dramatic. And if you wondered if the former governor is showing his age, think again, he still

got it. Jaj's Riddy Jefferys Redy cell phone video shows Arnold Schwarzenegger taking photos and talking to fans, when out of nowhere there's this shocking moment someone dropkicks the former governor and Terminator Stole. This happened in Johannesburg, South Africa, at the annual Arnold Classic Africa. The ambush gave Schwarzenegger absolutely no time to defend himself. Here's another angle of the bizarre attack at seventy one and an

incredible shape. He didn't even fall. Visit real quick the angle, the first angle that you see it from, he looks like he falls, like gets pushed and fall the fucking down. Yeah, he really looks like he's gonna fly into the like whoever he's talked towards a camera. Yeah. But then you see from the other angle and he the guy barely budget like he barely moves like. The guy runs into him and gives him like a full like like street fighter kick, and he barely moves forward, which I was

like. At first, I felt bad because I was like Arnold, But then I saw the other one. I'm like, oh fuck that guy, like he barely moved. After the governor had a second to collect his thoughts, he tweeted, thanks for your concerns, but there is nothing to worry about. I thought I was just jostled by the crowd, which happens a lot. I only realized I was kicked when I saw the video. Like all of you, I'm just glad the idiot didn't interrupt my snapchat. That's

my favorite part. Event organizer said the guy who created the spectacle was arrested and that he is known to police for orchestrating similar incidents in the past. They also said mister Schwarzegger is fine and still in good spirits. He's still carried on with the activities as planned and is fully taking this in stride as Sager also tweeted that he helps people pay more attention to the event and the

incredible athletes and less attention to the person who can. He also mentioned something like he because he kept like live streaming on snampchat through the events, and he was doing one of a girl's karate and he's like, thank god that these girls didn't kick me, because it probably hurt more than a guy who was funny. But so basically, the guy gets guy kicks him, and the guy begins yelling. You can't hear it in that one, but you

can hear in the original. You can hear him in the background after security gets him, just yelling like help me, I need a Lamborghini, repeatedly, over and over again, help me Lamborghini. And I'm like, really, like when I was watching them hoping security pulled like a Simpson situation. After Homer sneaks on stage at the YouTube concert and like, don't worry, he'll get the help he needs. Just pounding up in the bag. The

man's talking about Lamborghini's that affects the whole damn planet. Yeah, exactly, there's speed. I don't know real quick on the last thing. You need to like cut this out. But one of the reporters on the show was Tom Wait. I noted that, Okay, so you've seen like alien and Aliens like Aliens, do you think Tom Waite was the original On Tom Waite's

the singer songwriter came over. He's like like this, tom Waite is pretty good, but I think I can do better make Tom Waite to get what you're going here with Tom Waite, but Tom Waits could be so much more. And then there's Tom tom Wait three like Resurrection and I was like, no, that's now, like we don't all right, well, all right, this is your transition, and he's okay, go ahead. Also,

this movie's way better than The Genesis, yes, by a lot. And some of the stuff, Oh oh, I'm gonna leave this part in and just not let Joe argue, but yes, this movie is way better than Genesis. And hearing James Cameron talk about I'm not we're gonna go out to this in the trivia too, but hearing James Cameron talk about it, he did not like Genesis, like really because he's making fun of it, but he's doing in a subtle enough way where you're like, Okay, well,

well yeah he's trying. But yeah, you can definitely tell he's like that suck. That suck. That sucks. Yeah. But one thing I was gonna mention before we watch this that I forgot to mention when we're watching Linda Hamilton is you can definitely tell that she does not like James Cameron. Oh really, just the way some of the comments that she makes, and yeah, she doesn't seem maybe maybe it's they were married, Yeah, exactly. And I don't like any of my XYS ex wives. I also don't discide

him because I don't have any x wives. But yeah, makes sense to me. So that's it for the promo material. And that wasn't all of it either. I left some stuff out, yeah, which we'll get like to the rest. We'll get to the rest in due time. But yeah, anything else to mention before we get sent and off. Uh not really, I would just say, like, all this, all this fucking like promo stuff that you found just kind of proves how much they must have spent

on the marketing for this fucking movie. That's a great point because like I remember when this movie was coming out, that trailer was inescapable. Like that trailer was fucking everywhere. It was on every single movie I went to see that year. It was on TV constantly. I got so tired of that trailer. Yeah, and it's weird because I mean, I'm me, uh

let wait to escape it. Big Terminator fans expand on that. Well, So okay, if you want to get metaphysical about it, like we're all the same, We're all just Adams floating about and somehow I'm in my carbon form and I have thoughts. But every seven years everything inside me regenerates. That doesn't make any sense. I mean, it makes sense like what I'm saying, but it like in the metaphysical way, it doesn't make any sense, Like how am I the same person? It's a ship of thank you

where if you replace every party is still the same ship. Blah blah, blah if every seven years, all my atoms and cells are not the same as they were before, and I'm still the same person. So regardless of all that, I am still myself, I guess. Uh. And I'm obviously a big Terminator fan. I went and created this podcast with my friends. All Right, some dudes, I know it's gonna see you at the PARTI richta, it's pretty good. It's like a comedy movie critique podcast.

But Terminator one or two are my favorite movies, and that trailer was everywhere. And even then I still didn't like I wanted to watch in theaters, but I didn't make the effort to do it. I ended up even Erica says otherwise, But yes, yeah, I ended up watching it like later. I think I bought it on YouTube when it was like on sale for

ten dollars. But and I was watching it for the first time for this podcast, like yeah, aside from Terminator one when I was less than a year old, this is the first m and watching theaters and uh, yeah, I don't know. I think it just kind of lost some of its less so when old school fans like me are not really caring to go watch it in theaters, how were like others like kinda like gonna give a true how you're gonna grab a new audience? Wait, yep, how are you

gonna grab the dude? Yeah, I was looking out at my phone for a second and you said nudie. I was like, whoa, that is a type of pasta? Actually U d I Yeah, but yeah, I mean like if they if I'm serious, that wasn't sure. I know, I just I like to think that you just don't know how to pronounce noodle.

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