Welcome to Seer's Be-ers, Knowers and Doers, a podcast about intuition. Do you know what that is? Intuition to me is that inner sense for knowing that something is true and yet I have no proof, but there's so many definitions nd there's so many ways it can come and we are going to bring together and share with you some amazing guests who have some amazing life stories and also some insights into how intuition can come and I'm looking to gather those crows in the trees. I hope you're one of them.
I hope that this podcast inspires you to be more connected to your intuition and I hope that by doing that we make the world a better place. Thanks for coming on this journey with me. My guest today is a jack of all trades. She's a mother, wife,Six Sigma Green Belt Educator, business lady motivator. She's also a person who gets stuff done and helps others do the same. When she heard I was doing this podcast, she volunteered to be my first guest.
Not only that, she brought the Blue Yeti that this is being recorded on. Our guest today is Natalie Lockhart .
Natalie so tell us a little bit about yourself. All right . Thanks Heather for having me. It's awesome to be here. Um, so I'll tell you just a little bit about myself. I won't get into two of the many of the nitty gritty details. Um, but I was mostly in the corporate world for the majority of my, of my adult world.
I was a teacher and didn't, didn't really relate to the teaching field and so went into the corporate world and it's just been a couple of years ago now that my kids are school age and have gone back to school or gone off to school , uh, that I have pursued , um, a business and because the entrepreneur world is kind of my gig. Awesome. Kind of digging it. So that's, you know, that's a little bit about, without going into too much detail, that's a little bit about, about my journey so far.
Now you know how excited I am when people quit their corporate jobs. You know that I'm so proud of you that you've gone on this journey because you know, when people follow their intuition and get out of this stuff that makes them feel sick, you know, that sick feeling that sometimes happens. It's awful. Right? I did it. I know where you've been. So thank you so much for following your passion. Tell me a little bit about what brought you to Heads Up Society. I love this concept. I have to say.
Oh, thank you. So it's been a little bit of a journey to figure it out. Um, I really have spent the majority of my life kind of searching for my purpose and my passion of what I want to be when I grow up. I've always known that there's something better and that I'm meant to do something better and bigger I would say.
And bigger. And so Heads Up Society fits in there. Um, so over the few years with Heads Up, I've, I've changed my focus and my, and my message a few times. But the one that always comes back and resonates is always about the less technology. So it really is this society is just, we're so focused on just rush, rush, rush, and we don't have any purpose to our days. We just doing the same stuff day after day after day.
So with, so with heads up, it's more about this, about this holistic daily routine that people, these specific steps that people should have in their routine. But the messaging is focused around less technology because our society is completely addicted and we rely so heavily on technology and it derails so much of our daily purpose and our passion. The majority of us spend our waking hours, our waking working hours.
If you have an eight to five or nine to five, we spend it sitting behind the computer. Right? So, but to then take that and to go home and then spend again that almost the same amount of time on a piece of technology, whether it's your phone or your tablet or even sitting behind the TV. We spend the majority of our waking hours behind a screen. Your whole concept of Heads Up and how people need to like put it away. Yup . Have a conversation with a human being pay attention to your kids.
I love the fact that every time I see your children, there's no technology in these kids' hands. So I love that you that you've recognized that. But I have to say, my kids do go on technology. I have technology in the house. My kids absolutely go on technology because they're seven and nine and so they do have access to a little bit of it, but they're seven and nine so they don't have a lot of access. Do they have their own phones? Hell No. Do they have their own tablets?
No. But do they sometimes play on my iPad? Yes they do. Do they, but they also do some homework on tech, on technology, like on my computer or on my Ipad. They do some of those things. So it's not that my kids have zero technology, but it's just that we're super aware of the amount of time that they spend behind a piece of technology. Let me just add this too that my kids have never been brought up with technology either for the listeners who have kids and who already have technology.
It's, that's another beast. Trying to then bring that back and trying to tame that a little bit with less access. So it's one thing to bring to bring your kids up and just to have that belief, but then it's a whole other beast for those kids who are already entrenched there. And to then kind of on trench them if that is even a word. Do you know what I mean?
So in your awareness and in your messaging, are some of those tools for parents part of what you're doing or are you more targeting the adult a nd the kids are a byproduct of the a dult shifting? That's an awesome question. So, so my messaging and my tech t ruths that I, that I have are mostly for the adults, not necessarily for the parents and how to help that.
There are a few, a few tools and tricks and tips that I give specifically for parents and helping with their, with their children, with, with the less technology. But the majority of the messaging is for the adults because my core belief is that we need to be the role models for our children.
So i f we're spending less time, less time on our technology, and if that's our message t han our kids are g onna pick up on it b ecause you can't tell your kids to not be on a technology and then you're behind a screen all day. Y eah. Which doesn't make sense. Well, a nd I heard once that, you know, the kids o ur age used to be like, o kay, I want my own car. Because the dad would be out there washing the car every Sunday and like just loving the car and like don't bump the car.
And the car was the thing. Y up. O f desire
because the parent paid attention to the car because it was a big purchase item. Now the thing that we're coveting, I think is the word is our phone and our technology and so the kids want their own because they're seeing that as a coveted thing or they're seeing that as a thing to be paying attention to. So to, to, to twist that and think, okay, who am I coveting, what am I coveting and turn that around? Who am I coveting? What am I coveting is .
So the other thing that I'm wondering is because of your corporate background, are you taking some of this Heads Up messaging into the corporate world as well to build productivity? Or are you, is it solely individuals and it'll seep into the corporate world because you're affecting the individual?
So I exactly at this moment it is solely individuals. Okay. Where I create tools and, and help people to just step away from technology because it's, it's not about no tech, it's about low tech cause it doesn't make sense to be no tech. That's ridiculous. It's never going to work in our world. Right So it really is to take the position of a low tech and how can you do that?
So at this moment it's, it's always, it's been individuals and I'm hoping for it to then seep into the corporations even , uh, even the expectations of the employees. Like what is, what is your technology policy look like at work? Or do you even have one ? My guess is no. Yeah. It really is more of the more of the, the modern companies that may have one , but the majority of corporations aren't going to have a technology policy. No . Who wants to be available 24 seven it's not realistic.
It's not healthy. So for it to , for , for this message to seep into corporations, it needs to, if we're going to impact any kind of change with the employee as well . Well , there's incredible information out there. People need to be aware that it's just easy. So it's easy to look at your phone, but it's also really easy to not look at your phone if you set it up correctly. Right .
That it's not dinging and pinging at you and that you don't have that temptation because if something dings and pings, the temptation to look is there. And so you need to, you need to eliminate the , the temptation and there's so many ways to eliminate the temptation .
So shifting the topic a little bit. Yes. The title of our podcast Seer's, Be-ers, Knowers and Doers. Yeah . I think you're a doer. How do you get your intuition? Does it just happen when you do or how , how does it come to you?
I have spent the majority of my life figuring out what I want to be when I grow up and my intuition , uh , I've totally blocked it out for the majority of my adult life that I know what needs to be done, but I just block it out as what this is, this other voice talking to me. Just go away. You don't know what you're talking about. Go Away. We've all been there, I think. I think so.
Yeah. And so I've blocked it out, but just in the last few years, it might be that I've met you a few years ago , uh, has a big influence on it, but now I start listening to my intuition, but I still really do need to smack in the face that sometimes really what needs to happen is just a big wake up call. Like, oh, gentle one, a gentle wake up call please. Oh, right. This is what I should be doing. I'd like to say that I'm, that I really listened to my intuition on a daily basis, but I don't.
I would suspect you listened to your intuition. Parenting wise, relationship wise, it's probably in every aspect of your world except the work one. When your ego gets involved and says, no, this over here is the priority. Right. Nevermind your happiness. Absolutely that . Yeah. See , you're in my brain. But how many people do that? Like I talk to people regularly that I'm telling them, quit your job. It's making me sick because I was there. Right.
But there's responsibilities that we have all got to do. So I guess the fact that you're healthy and you haven't had that big smack in the head is because you do listen to the instincts most of the time. Yes. Right? Yup . When I listened to my intuition regarding anything, it does just my life is then just simpler, calmer, peaceful . Exactly. Simpler. I love. Yeah . I'm all about that. Yeah. And it's crazy. We have this inner guidance that's really neat.
Yes. And meditation helps too . Cool. You're doing that every morning. Yeah, it's made. I've been doing it since September. It's made a huge difference in my state of mind. Just my positivity and set your day up. Starting with that. Holly, I can't even tell you how much it's changed me. Wow. Yeah. Cool. Did you find it hard at first? Hard at first. I still find it hard. Well that's why they call it to practice meditation. It is hard. It is hard, but I think meditation can be a real active thing.
I don't think that it has to be like, OMM no , I don't think so either. Right . It can think it can be a really fluid, active thing cause I think it's just in a place of allowing what comes to come. What's tough is is to stop the constant thoughts because the constant thoughts that go on in my head anyway are, are not the thoughts that I want to be thinking first thing in the morning. It's not what's next and what's my day going to look like.
So it's just the thoughts of, man, she said that to me last weekend , you know what I'm still irritated about that. It's sometimes it's those thoughts. And for me the hard part of meditation has just been pushing those thoughts away so that I allow the purpose of the meditation, which is to set up my day. And just to have that positive frame of mind, that is what it's for. So it's making it is making boundaries, I just have to push it away. And those thoughts come in all the time. Daily.
Some days are way better than others, but I just need to, to learn to push those thoughts away. Boundaries. Yeah. It's a practice. Meditation is a practice. Yeah. Fair enough. Yeah.
So Natalie, we've gotta go, go looking at this work thing. Cause I mean really that's the place that you're saying like the world's gonna hit you in the head. Right? And so, so what are you doing for work? What are you doing? So for the majority of my, of my life, I was a corporate. I was a teacher then I was corporate and I always jumped around from job to job. And then I had kids. And so once kids arrived in my world, I quit my corporate job.
Okay. Quit my gig, didn't want my kids to go to daycare, couldn't imagine having someone else raise my kids while I paid them to do it. I just, my personal choice, I want to stay home and do that. Yeah. So that's what I did. And as my kids got older, this niggling concern or this niggling that's always been with me about what is it that I want to do with my, with my life.
And so searching for this purpose has been my, it's taken my entire life basically in 20 plus years. Right. But as my kids got older and started school that I thought, okay, because I don't want them to go to daycare and I have these priorities. I completely designed my life around my kids. So I thought, okay, why don't I teach? Because now my kids are in school. If I'm also teaching, it's pretty much the same hours.
So I would still be able to get them after school, do homework, do all of those, all of those things that are a priority to me. But you hated teaching. So I started teaching knowing that 20 years ago there was a reason why I didn't continue to teach. It was because I didn't like it. Where you hired full time at that point, like where were you working in a classroom full time. Way Back when? 20 years ago I was and I hated every moment of it.
So in all my infinite wisdom, I thought, okay, this is going to be great because it fits on paper, it fits. It works into my world it checks off all my boxes. I'm going to start teaching against correct intuition had nothing to do with all the boxes. What is your body doing at this point? Like what or what was your emotional self doing at this point when you were like, oh, all the boxes are checked. Go Away. Like did your physical body do something? Do you remember?
When I first met you, my body was saying that I needed some kind of a release in my mind. I always wanted to go to a , to a shooting range to a like a firing range. That's how my body reacted to me, not listening to my intuition was I need to do something to release this rage, this whatever was happening and it sits in , in my belly and it sat there for years that I need this kind of release. And I was never really sure what that, what that actually meant. That's what it looks like.
So you just walked around with a smile on your face. Very angry. Yes. Yes. This was my world for a lot of years. But you exercise during that time. Yes. You got back into exercise at one point really hardcore and you got happier. Like, so that became a physical release. Exactly. What are you doing now? So I'm still teaching. Teaching I still am teaching, so I'm teaching the GED program, so it's adults a little better. Okay, okay . A little better. Right .
Um, but still not where I belong and I know it. But the great thing is that I know it and I have an out life takes over though because I have bills, I have kids, I have a husband, I have those things. That consistent income dropping into my bank account every two weeks is a little bit of a priority for me.
So that is where I'm not listening to my intuition because I'm doing something that I know is not where I belong, but I'm doing it again because it checks the boxes, which is not where my intuition belongs. It's not intuition . It has no part of it that in that moment in those checking the boxes, however the Heads Up Society is filling your intuition. Exactly. So now I have an out because I have found something that really doesn't feel like work and that's really cool.
And that's for the first time, for the first time ever that I've spent my 20 plus years as an adult, just kind of searching and figuring out my way and my journey. Um, and it's led me to this moment that it's like, AHHHH, well I would bet though that chances are all those other steps or are part of the journey that you're not going to throw away.
So Natalie, one more story too . You've been married twice, right? Yeah . Oh see , see , it's like a different life for me. Yeah. It is a blank slate over there. Now. You know what it is very much like I have two lives. Hmm . That is my, that is my life before and I know that it , it's my life obviously, that it happened. Do I think about my life today versus my life when I was 23 and got married at 23? Um, it doesn't, I'm not even the same person.
I honestly don't even think about those times because it doesn't even feel like it's me. Was that an instance where you weren't listening to your intuition? Yes. So I really, I knew I needed to say no, but I said yes. Crazy that we do that. Yes. But there's again, checking off the tick boxes on a piece of paper when they all make sense.
That's it. This is what's expected of me. This is what I need to do this, the next progression, this, this is, this is what society is telling me I need to do. And we listened to that so often rather than listening to ourselves because we don't want to disappoint. We don't, we don't want to let people down. We want to stay on course and do this because it's the easy thing to do cause to change direction. Change course in the middle of everything.
The thing is not the easy thing to do and it's, there's conflict and it's messy conflict isn't and it is messy. So we choose the easy route time and time again. So when you got out of that, yes. What was it like? You got an alignment and another area of your life and it just, something got a little easier out of what got out of the relationship, the marriage. When I was out of the relationship? Was there a sense of I'm a little bit more aligned , uh, I'm going to say no. Okay.
No , cause I was still really young and I, yeah, I was only 28 so married at 23, divorced at 28. Okay . And then I'm still checking the boxes in a lot of different areas of my life, so I still, I wasn't free. I was free from that, but then I was still trapped within the work and the family and , and those kinds of boxes. Still the expectations. Yes. Yes. It's still disappointing people. Like I didn't even want to tell people that I was getting divorced. Like it was a secret for so long.
So many people didn't know because I was scared of what people would say, how they would judge me being a disappointment to my family. All of those things. Oh yes. It's amazing how we get imprinted as a kid with some things that take us out of alignment and it's nobody's fault. It's just the way it is. Um, so
do you think sometimes as we get older and become more , um, wise , we hope so. We hope , um, that to a certain extent it's easier to listen to our intuition because we get more of a spine?
We, we get rid of or we feel more free to get rid of the expectations that are put on us. I've in my, in my situation and I can only speak in my, my own personal opinion, but as I get older, that's what I feel that, well, those are your expectations. Those aren't mine. Whereas before I would've picked up your expectations and put them, put your expectations on me as well. Right. But today it's, and it's experience. It is getting older. It's learning.
It's, it's just, it's walking through life and learning those lessons that when you get here, I think, I believe it becomes easier to just know I'm doing, I'm doing me now. I've done everyone else for so long, but now I'm being me yet I'm doing me good. Well, I can't wait to do you and all areas of your life. It's going to be exciting. It's exciting. It is going to be really exciting. Yes. Cool. Well, thank you for having me.
I'm so honored and flattered to be your first guest of this podcast, and I'm so proud of you for following your dreams and listening to your intuition and thank you so much for having me.
No, thank you, Natalie. It's been great.
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