How Intuition Can Bring Out Kindness and Healing

I hope that this podcast inspires you to be more connected to your intuition. And I hope that by doing that, we make the world a better place. Thanks for coming on this journey with me

So would you feel comfortable sharing more about yourself so that people can get an understanding of you? Like I had ?

When I first started touring, I was thinking I was going to share a unique experience with audiences about growing up on a farm. And I learned very quickly. I was, that was not a unique experience. It was a universal experience as it grows up around horses and cows and Cowboys and farm women, they have the same lot .

It's just, I , I , I just thought their chips and hats and boots and spurs that made this wonderful little jingle and the aura of the ropes and the sound of the horses street sounds of Texas. Now. It's just mesmerized. I grew up with the best people in the world. Unfortunately I was not that good. A kid. I wasn't evil. I wasn't in trouble with the law much, but , uh , it was just like so many, you know, sort of silly, not so mature , but gold grades .

And I just wanted to rope still lope can't stop. I'm an old man now. I still can't beat anybody, but I don't care. I just go anyway. And , uh, I went to college, I would get on the rodeo team and then not go back to class using that strategy. I was able to string together those maps , which is still a record somewhere I'm sure. And a straight on the road, a couple of years, about 18 or 19, I realized I wasn't carving out an effective strategy to get to eat every day .

So I had to go back to school and talk my way back into the university. And that took some doing sister and something happened, something mystical, the traces of the divine . They got me, they reached me, those professors and caused me to care and try . And I got a bachelor's and master's and doctorate, which in psychology, which you'll be relieved to know. I never took too seriously.

But next thing you know, I'm 35 years old when I was school teacher and a professor and I had students on the front, I had 104 on everything like the bright ones do . Now , you don't have to worry about them. You can just get out of their way. But those at the back began to haunt me, those kids at the back, because while some might not have been the bladder smelled in the package, they had ample ability to do well.

Some were even gifted and they began to, because every time I looked back there at those kids, all I could see sitting in the middle of the , with me. And I thought, how do you get them? And I kept hearing this. I don't know what it was that there has to be a way, Miguel, that has to be a way to reach them. After all, someone reached to you and you know, Heather, I'm not telling you I won the Nobel prize.

I mean, I didn't go to jail because of these people I easily could have, you know, lost kid, no food, you know, but they saved my life. And uh , I didn't know it, but that was going to come to dominate my whole life. It's a Christian writer. Philip Yancey said that writers just have one theme and they just say the same thing over and over. That's so true of me. All my books are about to say things I'm the most grateful for about all this is , you know, how do you reach those kids on the back?

How do you get them to try? How do you get them to cooperate with you? Well, the same answers are so true about the horse working dog after all, you're really asking them to volunteer, to help you, you know, that horse or the dog go ask them, do anything, but I will die for us. So that's what my life is all about. That's what my 10 books are about 200 magazine articles are published. They're all about the sign thing that will elicit high cooperation from others. Some people are so good at it .

And I'm like, yeah, well, but I try and make people understand that the worst is, are just a reflection of a broader learning. Like we can apply anything to what we say about a horse to a person, a dog. And he came back with, I just inserted dog with horse after the fifth podcast about a horse. And I kept on listening. He said, and it's so true. You can apply it to everything.

And it's to have you just turn around and share that what you just shared, that some of the horses you've worked with in your stories that you've written about are those kids in the back row. And we all know a kid in the back row, or we all know an animal in the background Or we weren't run well. And it's funny because when I took nutrition, I was the kid, there were four of us in the back road . Two of us were like Keene wall. What the heck's key wall. Let's go have some craft dinner for lunch.

Like it was funny. So yeah, you are sharing such a universal message about connection and about taking the time

And it finally dawned on me and in my working life, I couldn't stand bosses that had a scale on their sys and were in a hurry to go to shift to that . But I really loved bosses who were pleasant and kind and asked me if I would mind doing something and, and mad , goodness, you know , I still haven't arrived by any means with the ability to Alyssa elicit more cooperation began to increase exponentially. When I was more pleasant, it was just striking.

And I really regret taking so long to see that, you know,

Anybody that cares about us well, shows us love, you know, guess who we lack as human beings. We lack the people that lack us. That's critical. I dunno. And , um , Doris are the most iconic names ever says, you have to get the horse on your side, but most men, no, I'm sorry. That's a generalization. Some men don't believe that. I think you have to establish dominance. You have to tell, don't ask. We have to show them who's boss, get the horse, some exercise, do something.

Then you have to force them because the horse will be ruined. If you don't, then there's this other group of men and women. And again, some women are like, but , but not, not as many. I don't think like Martin black, he's quite a horseman. And he , you go the old way is when you come to a Creek or stream or a railroad track and the horse won't go across, you'd have to make, because if you don't, they'll be ruined instantly .

But Martin black said once when he comes to some barrier that the holy spirit , he could force him. But the next time he comes to it, he's going to have to force him again. And what he's found is can we latch that animal to some obstacle? And he does not force him to go across, but he gives them some time to spend there as sort of let this marinate. He says often in a short time, the horse will walk across the obstacle as if it were not there. That own their own volition.

They'll decide to cross it when they have a little time to think. And I just think that's so true. That's my experience.

And the answer is when one of us dies, that's when I'm going to stop asking him if he wants to go across there. But actually I've never had, I've never had to go a third day or a second day. They almost always will walk across without force. And I might as well go ahead and spill the beans. Now my whole life is about with humans and horses. Dogs help get you elicit cooperation without the use of force. If we can answer that we could capture lightning in a bottle.

I'm still working on it every day of my life. Yeah. If you can get the dog to want to and you'll do anything you ask , it always makes me think of Xena time . Famous commander, Greece twenty-five hundred years ago, who was also a great horseman, the great king Cyrus, a science and the task of creating a war horse. Well, Zane , if I knew that was going to be difficult because while don't like pulling these Spears and big banners waving and noise , but he says , you can do it.

You can create the war horse, and he will leave on the Spears of your enemy for you. All you have to do is get him to love you, Which still hurts me to say that

I don't know, but you need to pay attention because he's trying to tell you something , you know, Lula more than the Western writer said, there's never been a better watchdog . And then the hopes when they want to , something is wrong.

And I stand there for six hours and I write something that's great. And he said, if I don't, I stand there for six hours every day of my life. He said, if you did that, he would write big books and that's one. And then he said something else, should it be stand there long enough? Something will come to help you. And that really resonated with me. That was 20 years ago. And now when I can't get started or I can finish a magazine article or something, that's what I do.

I just say , okay, I'm going to sit down here and I'm awake until something comes to help me. And it does give you an example. And I think it will, with all of us, every writer talks about that. He looks, she looks at the page. It says, I didn't write . That came from somewhere else. Well, I think the first seven books were just preparation. So I could write the last three that I've done the trilogy about my horses. That's the very first one I was to tell you about this horse in a minute.

We've talked about it when I was trying to, right after the experience was, you know, I hate progress and I couldn't , uh , I sat there for two weeks. I wrote about 14, 1500 words. They were so dry. They would make you cough because it was not a story about Alaska cowboy saving a troubled equine . So it was about a food that didn't know how to help this disturbed horse . Me being the fool thought I knew all about it.

And one night I looked at the computer screen and it said, the problem is you don't know what you're doing like with me. And I'm telling you, girl, I got up and walked around. I couldn't remember writing that. I know I did, but he's the one that said it because it was so true. And the horses started talking regarding question about where does intuition come, Socrates, where ideas come from? I just know they don't come from here. And that's the way this was.

I did not want these horses talking in my book. This is awful. Except when they started talking, I couldn't stop typing words. You know, 90,000 words came quickly, well quickly, meaning, you know, like four or five weeks, I wouldn't eat, I couldn't sleep . I just was banging away, recording what they were saying. And sometimes I would stop and think, wait a minute, that's left away the original manuscript read . And then I would take my adult special , not original manuscript.

And then that led to the two other books in the horse's top throughout. And I'll give you another quick example, chubby . And one of the horses asked Lou , who has speech impediment, as you know, he can't say RS and he talks real fast and he asks to Joby and as a young coach, he asked an older blue flatus pop. Well , why does pop won't? Yeah , well that is , and I could not wait. I got up and walked around.

And I knew when I went back over there to that computer screen, that horse was going to give Joe being the answer. And he did the words came on the page. The reason pop Lopes is because it increases his self-esteem and that was the right answer.

Because when you go get in a jackpot in the fields , and in fact, the ropers there who've been in the U S penitentiary and a quarter of them were not wearing shirt and their butters buddy's covered with tattoos and you placed somewhere and when a little money, yes. It makes you feel better about yourself.

Like these words came out of my fingers onto the page and I don't even remember writing it, you know? So, and there's a movement of like, journal , right ? Like connect with your soul and just write and get out of the way. And some people who don't hear the words and this hasn't come up before as a way of getting intuition. So I am super excited that you brought this up because words and intuition will fall out of your fingers. And whether it's on a keyboard, they will fall out of a pen.

Whether it's on a piece of paper. If you just ask a question and start writing and get out of the way you can get intuitive answers, you got into it, advantage in your head from a horse or several of them. And they came out your fingers. So the fact that you brought this up, you're the first one in over a hundred podcasts. I'm so excited.

There's something that comes to help us when we're stuck. And, and another thing I take to all those people who won't lie to you , you know, the most powerful thing you can do is get that internal critic who says, this is no good. Nobody's going to read your story. You get that thing to shut up. And because all it does is criticize. It doesn't help you. Right? But there's something in us. That's creative spirit that will help us take care of it, encourage it.

And when we get stuck, if we put a last few pages in the drawer and let them stay there for a day or two, and then get them out, all the typos show themselves, you see how that fix as soon. It's that you didn't lie . And when people tell me, I want to write , but who's going to listen to my story. I always say , that's all any of us have? That's all Elvis fans . That's all Jesus . I'm not comparing them . I just mean everybody just has their story and why not?

Why it , why not share it with people. You never know who it might help. And you know , when people say, well, I don't feel like I'm a professional and then say , yeah, but the people that we live, you wouldn't call their writing professional. You call it easily understood. You know, a man that's very famous in the horse world told me the other day. I said, we enjoy your columns. You're an excellent writer. He said, oh no, no, no, no, no, I don't. I'm not a writer.

You ask him , why would you say that? Well, I just dictate my columns on a person types . And the pages for me, I said, how fascinating that you were telling me that say , you're not a writer because that's exactly what Louis L'Amour Dean . He recorded orally his book. And then someone tapped it into a book for him. But no one would say, or Maura was not a writer To denigrate ourselves. And that does not do any good. It's not arrogance to think. Maybe I can have something to contribute.

It's courage . You know , it says we're not to be or boastful, but just a few paragraphs later, it says, let your light so shine that others may know of your good works . There's not a thing wrong with sharing a story. Somebody might lack in . It might help. Somebody helped us.

I love the idea of going to trainers and getting help of course, but none of us would ever consider if we knew a woman shot scratch every time she played, she shot par . Every time she played around a golf, we would never consider sending her a letter and saying here's $500. I want you to get a thousand golf balls so I can play better. We just wouldn't do that.

But if we would gun that woman and let her watch us, you hit golf balls, maybe a thousand and you get some band-aids and we might've be surprised. So with the horse and the dog, I think you have to go because when the horse or dog comes home from training, they'll be really good for a couple of weeks.

But after that, then we work on what they were before they left, because we haven't calmed anywhere and improved the , this , the secret is hunt said, one time, if you're going to work on the horse, you got to work on yourself and I'm ashamed to admit this to you. But I said to myself, well, what's he talking about? I don't have to work on myself. I've been riding the horse since I was three years old. You know what a fool I was . Okay .

But about fennel Bibles , occasionally we'd get a mayor and have to study and not really locked in . I don't want to be with that mayor. When she lays that baby on the ground, I want to help her clean him off. You know, I want him to think I'm a biological member of that family. And we're a strange thing I saw at a very, very nasty ranch stall. And I knew he was for sale . And I asked something happened again. I was field flooded with a certainty that he presents the thing called rape .

And I asked him , man, how much you see ? And he said, you don't want him, Michael he's five years old. Nobody's touched him in three years. At the age of two, he was abused and he tried to kill his trainer. Then we were also disappointed that he didn't get that job done because we hated that guy. But anyway, he's lost his trust for man. And you don't want, but you can't tell us six days a model or cowboy or anything. You know, I bought him anyway and took him home.

And nobody told that horse out smarter because for the next two years, working with him every day, it just got worse. The more iron wheels , more stubborn. And I got sick because the only thing I take credit for, because my Fife never wavered. Never one moment I knew it was great. So I'm asking all my cowboy buddies to help me good rope . And you know, you need to love 10 miles. You need to put a stronger bit , you need to put a wire potted on his head. So, you know , keep it down.

You know, you need to get after him. If he makes a mistake, you know , just show him his boss. Don't, don't ask the trail established dominance. But we missed was at the end of two years, there was not one tiny amps of improvement . So four guys come to my house. When that they all got their hats off. I thought someone had died. Now. They were telling me I needed to get rid of their source because if you do everything you can do and he won't respond in , he's not a good one.

And you need to get rid of it. I went outside and I said, what ? What's wrong? As I said, I thought someone had died. And I said, well, Michael, this is an intervention. And I said, we all, aren't going to get me to quit drinking beer. And they said, no, no, no. It's not that we want to be here. We want you to see a Christian counselor because this horse is ruining your life. You know, things are not going well for you.

You had a divorce during this two years and you don't ride any of your other horses here. You're just obsessed with him. And we saw him running down the arena, running sideways side , passing, trying to keep up with the spear. I said, he didn't do that. And I should see, see how you are. We saw him with our own eyes running sideways, trying to kiss the Skinner . And for two years he didn't do that. They said, what do you think he did?

I said, well, he was running sideways , but he wasn't trying to keep up with the spear. He was running alongside him perfectly right beside him . And you know, if we could get that Christian counselor to help us devise a prayer, all we're asking the Lord for is a horse. Just be turned one quarter turn. And they all got in the car and left. And so I finally came to my senses and I got rid of those cramps . You know, wouldn't know a good horse. If they came in and kissed him on the lip .

And I found men and women or the down the path than me. And they helped me find the pieces to the puzzle of healing, Shannon , and we, I didn't know what to do. I just wouldn't go do that for stuff anymore. I wouldn't go and punishing him for things anymore . And we never hated him. And I, wasn't going to try to put something on him that we're straying or things like that. I didn't know what to do. I just wouldn't want to do that. And we started using kindness.

And if he didn't want to do something that frightened him, we're going to make it , do it. And the Dole began to open and the light came peeking through just a little bit. He started calming down and then the lab came more and ended up eventually the door burst open and the lacking shining through much beyond our expectations. And then that lapse , when he leaves her open box, it's hard to breathe. I said why?

She said, because she takes your breath away and the ground where he runs because after all he doesn't touch it very much. He just flats . It's been 20 years. And I do believe that there is possibility that Jesus let ride him on judgment day. And I'm lucky enough to be there as respectfully as I can in there . I'm going to say now, master, you know, if you don't want me up , he's going to try. You sure he can rap , but it's going to read the first 120 Saddleback ride in the history of rodeo.

And then I thought I was the only one. Let me say this. The worst thing about it was for the longest there I was alone, there was no where to turn. And as I said, Shannon, some old married couple that had lost their love and just painlessly walking alone. But I was wrong. I was so wrong. There were so many people that have an emotionally disturbed horse.

And if you ever have, you can be assured you're going to have an emotional disturbance toot , and you're not going to get well until that horse gets well. And the trick is you have to get, well, first you have to change your way. It's a dangerous game. You know it really, but now these people have fallen out of the sky because are riding .

They contacted me and that judge appeals, for example, who rides Quincy in front of 15,000 people at Liberty, maybe we could have taken Shan's name out of your manuscript to put clinches in there. And it's the same book I should , Jonathan. That's hard to believe, but it's true. So Jonathan , because of that experience that we both had horses, but now I have so many people telling me I had the same experience and they all end with the same thing, same spec .

I thought I had an assignment to help this trouble course I did. But what I didn't know was the horse set an assignment to help me to . And I'm a better human being because I went through this , not wiser, just kinder and Nasser to people and animals is usually an equine therapy. You know, we think that's a relatively recent innovation, actually your pocket good that 400 years before the birth of Christ. So it's been around a little longer than I thought they have that little Methodist church.

My mom used to take me to, there was always a hammer, a balm in Gilead. And I think the horse I have that it says it's about , [inaudible] about the spirit home. And it does work some wonders in equine therapy, particularly with people who have post-traumatic stress from the battle fatigue, just remarkable . So that's a story about HSA and

And Shan reveals everything. And he says, the reason I'm still mad. And so I tried to kill that person that did those things to me and I didn't get the job done. And I'm still mad about that. And blue starts talking to him and eventually we're going to sing. And then he said, well, when we come to problems, we just told her with Joyce. And you've had some hard times. I mean, you've been around the block. And so we'd go sing. Whatever song in the blue system was about time.

You started in bushings, I'll do a little bit of a glass dish , LAN . We reside , uh , same guy that sweet , you know, and he goes and gets all the horses. And what I've really been surprised about. I never saw this little kids like the book because of the white blue talks. It shows a , or I don't know what I popped. Those was shot . Cause he ain't nothing but a quick mail case . That's all he is. He's got the best weapon in the world right here. You then this woman called her granddaughter.

She's nine years old, she's blind . And she should, we ask our child what she was like for Christmas. We have our all kinds of presents , but we asked her what Shana could bring her. And she out , I would like to arrange a phone conversation with the horse called and the woman said we would like to hire a blue to her . And I said , well, I have a better idea than that . She said, what is it? I said, blue, won't charge you, but why don't you come to our ranch, that channel , right?

We'll lead her around. And we did that happen to agree. It should miss Christmas, whatever .

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