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How Horses and Intuition Bring Out Our Authentic Selves

Nov 16, 202031 minSeason 2Ep. 10
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I spoke with Angela Geddes on Oct 2, 2020 about her life with horses and how she uses intuition in her work as a coach co facilitating with her horses on her land to bring about authentic change in her clients. Angela also speaks about her corporate life before starting her own business and how her health and her daughters lead her to finally listen to her own intuition and take the leap to start her own business. 

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Angela Geddes, the sole proprietor of Soul on Fire Coaching and Equine Guided Wellness Center provides a unique experience in her “Coaching from the Barn” model where clients are supported in their own soul connection while being coached in partnership with her herd of horses. Clients are invited to connect in mind, body and spirit through the wisdom of horses and nature. 

Soul on Fire was established in July 2015 following a variety of life transitions experienced by Angela – a resignation from a long-term corporate career, the sudden loss of her father and niece and a desire to be more present in all areas of life placing physical and emotional health as a top priority while recovering from a burnout. It was born out of a desire to thrive and truly live with a Soul on Fire in order to demonstrate the life that is possible for her two daughters and to be a parent that was present “when her children got off the bus” for the first time ever. Soul on Fire allowed Angela to put her passion for people and lifelong love for horses into an offering like no other where clients experience exceptional transformation.

While Soul on Fire Coaching and Equine Guided Wellness Center has evolved over the last five years, the vision remains the same – soul connection and helping clients discover what sets their soul on fire and unfold what is required to transition forward. 

The services offered by Soul on Fire includes life and/or leadership coaching, reflexology, Indian head massage, guided meditations in nature and/or with the horses, guided nature walks, and business consulting primarily in the field of strategic Human Resources.

Angela’s credentials include being a horse owner of 25 years +, a 30 year corporate career with experience in Finance and Human Resources,  a Masters in Business Administration (MBA) with a concentration in Human Resources achieved through the Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh Scotland, Certified Co-Active Coach studied through Coach Training Institute (CTI) and a number of equine facilitated learning approaches including the Horse Medicine Leadership Academy (equine guided coach facilitation), Natural Lifemanship (a trauma informed equine program) and EAGALA (mental health and equine specialist approach). 

When Angela is not supporting her clients to ignite that fire within, you will find her somewhere on the farm with her husband and daughters and cows, the horses or her dogs and you may just find her slugging a log over her shoulder clearing land to make room for more horse and client experiences.  There is never a dull moment with a Soul on Fire!

You can find Angela at www.angelageddes.com or on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/soulonfirepc.

 

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Heather

Welcome to See'rs Be-ers, Knowers, and Doers, a podcast about intuition. Do you know what that is? Intuition to me, is that inner sense for knowing that something is true and yet I have no proof, but there's so many definitions and there's so many ways it can come and we'll even to bring together and share with you some amazing guests, you have some amazing life stories and also some insights into how intuition can come. And I'm looking to gather those crows in the trees.

I hope you're one of them. I hope that this podcast inspires you to be more connected to your intuition. And I hope that by doing that, we make the world a better place. Thanks for coming on this journey with me Before we get started today, I would love to share some tools with you to help with stress and feeling overwhelmed, especially for the energetically sensitive person. Feel free to go to my store on my website at www.healingvitality.ca. Thanks so much for coming on this journey with me.

I'm super excited to have Angela Geddes join me and she has got horses in our world, which always excites me. So thank you Angela, for joining me today.

Angela

Actually, Heather, I have to thank you because it's such a pleasure. I was so honored when you reached out to ask if I would be a part of your podcast, especially on the top of intuition. So thank you for , uh, for a lot of you to share my story around intuition. Wow. That's the whole point.

Heather

So here we go. So tell us a little bit about yourself, Angela.

Angela

Okay. So I guess, first of all, I guess the one , I , the way I often will introduce myself as I'm a mom first, I'm an entrepreneur, I'm a farmer's wife, a long-term farmer's wife. We've actually been married for 27 years. And so agriculture with cows and horses is a big part of our family life and how we connect and spend time together. When you asked me to be a part of something from , you know , what was it that I want to share?

And I guess part of it is just my story of, you know, there've been some really pivotal moments in my life and interesting enough that the name of my defense is called Soul on Fire , equine guide at wellness center. And the whole premise behind where on fire came from, was me leaving a corporate , um , world in 2014. I've actually been, it was October of 2014. So we're getting ready to, to celebrate six years of, of , uh, being on my own.

And in 2015, I actually started my own business of soul on fire thinking that corporate world was really scary. And what I didn't realize is how far out I was as an individual, as a mom. And also it was a time of , uh, that I knew that I needed, you know , I needed some changes in my life and I interesting enough the horses aren't showing as , cause I'm not sure if you've heard the snoring . So which we'll we'll, we'll talk about that, what it means from a coaching perspective.

So I left my corporate job, really not knowing where I was going. I just knew that one day I woke up and looked at my mirror and I thought, I don't even recognize the person who's looking back at me. And as a mom, I often what I've prided myself in is that I modeled the way for my children. I have two daughters. And with that, I want them to know they can do whatever they want to do when they want to do it. However they want to do it and empower them to be able to take those steps.

And at that point, when I looked at myself in the mirror that day, I thought I'm not empowering anybody. I'm showing them what it is to get up and just exist. And I feel that life is more than just expressing it's about living and interesting enough. Some of the pivotal moments in my life came to loss through losing my dad who was always 70 when he passed away 11 years ago. Cause we'll also be celebrating his own . It's been 11 years since he's been passed. And I lost a niece in 2015.

Um, do you know , a brain tumor who was going 30? And there are two people who really lived their life while they were here with us in present with us. My father, most people will remember him by its Hardy laugh as my niece, nothing legacy in her short time here on earth. And so with that, those were time limits of where was it that I wanted to take my own life. So interestingly enough, I sat down, I knew I enjoy coaching for my corporate days and being an HR.

And actually I had worked many years in finance and I sat down and I , I actually put through a business name for my company and it was rejected. So I went back to the drawing board, threw some words on a piece of paper and lo and behold stolen on fire was born through that process. And the core essence of my business has been to help people to really live their lives, purposefully connected to themselves and knowing they have whatever it contains for them to make their dreams become a reality.

So interesting enough, my , my business started out with a lot of dental consulting and coaching, but in the last few years, it's really morphed a lot because of some health issues that I've had and realizing that perhaps every time that my values are not completely aligned and when I don't listen, my body shuts down. So within the last year I actually wrote a blog called , uh , and here we have another horse who is also joining us as well, Heather , uh , the second horse with her snort.

And so with that, when I started this change. So in 2000, just to give you an idea. In 2018, I got slowed down a little bit with a heart condition and I had a 90% loss in one of my arteries. And 2019, I was diagnosed with type two diabetes and it had impacted my health a lot. And even my envision, it, there was some really big concerns around that, especially having a heart condition and diabetes.

And then in 2020, we were faced with Covid So my blog was about practicing the pause to pause practices. You, so unfortunately, some places there was pauses that were ripped out of my life so I could stop and reflect. And with that, I become very intuitive. So a lot of the work I knew I now do in terms of coaching is helping people to really understanding body mics and understand what our body's trying to tell us and how we need to stop and listen.

And interesting enough in the last week, I've met with a gentleman that I'm hoping to do some collaboration with. And I have trails nature trails that I , I take people out and we do reflection in the, in the forest and there was a tear task in front of us on the trail. And so I often will look up symbol rhythm on animals and what they're trying to tell us. And so I printed that off for us today. So I'm just going to read a little short little paragraph about your symbolism.

And it says, when you have a deer sighting , it's as though the universe wants you to stop what you're doing and just be in the moment, quiet, contemplate and thankful the deer is first and foremost, a reminder that you need to listen to your intuition. So request of you to be a part of your podcast . What's very timely because I just saw that deal within the last couple of weeks. And it was so close and it's probably only about 20 feet away from me walking across the turnout. Lovely.

And there's so majestic and graceful and powerful. And so for me, it left a lot of meetings .

Heather

Well, and that's what they do. They pause, they stop and they look at you, they stop and they observe they're a lot like your husband, actually, they stop and they look and they determine what do I do? What is my next course of action? Do I need to do anything with this? And they wait long enough until they know what to do. And they, they act quickly. They either go back to grazing or they run off very quickly and all of them run off. If they're in a group, it's like, Oh, look at that.

We startled you. But if they're feeling safe, they'll just on doing what they're doing, but they will stop. It's quite profound. If you see one stop and then they all look, if there's more than one, it's quite profound because it's like, you have to stop. If you've startled them, like you, you , your instinct is to stop and just mimic them and wait and , and inside you're like, please stay, please stay.

Angela

I actually get in . I often say that when I see them on the road or in the ditch and you know, there's often more than one and I always, I always

Speaker 3

Stay there, stay there. Yeah. Me too driving, especially set up Western New Brunswick Quispamsis has them everywhere there . Yes . There's just as many people as there are deer and,

Angela

And in downtown Hampton, you see them as you're heading downtown.

Heather

Yeah. It's crazy. So yeah, I talked to them as well. Please stay, please stay. Well. That is very, very cool. So you are now listening to your own book ,

Angela

So it really has, you know, maybe take a look and reflect at , um, where is it that I want it to take my business and, and what's meaningful for me. And I find as I, as I age, I tell some people, I think that I'm just getting more philosophical, but it's really about having meaningful work and living with a life on purpose and helping others to achieve the same thing. So when I was taking my coach training, people kept saying, you realize people are doing that's what courses .

So I did leadership coaching for quite some time while I was still in my corporate job. And I've continued to do that in my own business. And I do life coaching. And with that, I have now I now include courses as part of the coaching process. They are now my coach facilitators and my partners in the coaching process. And so I, I, my business model is called coaching from the barn .

Heather

Perfect. Yeah .

Angela

And the reason that I've gone there with horses is because of their intuitiveness, their survival, it's very much about their awareness of their environment and their surroundings, and whether they're safe from a fight or flight perspective. And there's so much that shows up with a client as part of them being present in the coaching experience.

And that's probably where a lot of my intuition comes from the end gain a bit of a lead in that, in that post size , because they demand my clients to show up authentically, to show up polling and just show up in all of their glory or whatever that may look like. And they are nonjudgmental . And for me, there's just, there's so much that shows up in the experience and I get very curious. So it brings out a very curious nature for me to help the client to understand what's happening.

What are the, what are the forces demonstrating? And as we first started this podcast, as you probably heard, or I hope you did, yes . There was more than one force that snorted and kind of went. And if you look back or you listen some back on the podcast or what we were talking about at the time it's validation and what was being discussed.

Heather

Yeah ,

Angela

Yeah, exactly. Very much so. And, and sometimes where I'm sitting, they don't even come over, but they both came over right from the get , go with the podcast, which was very interesting. And so with that, it awakened things in clients that might not otherwise make an appearance. There is a communication that can be carried on with an animal and with a horse that may not, those words may not have been able to be articulated.

And my support on that is just getting really, really curious about what's showing up for the client. And I have seen so much transformation and such deep level of vulnerability that appears that helps the person to really be able to move forward. And once again, I am getting some validation

Heather

Well, and the thing with the horse anatomically is they have a heart that is huge , huge. And so there's no way that a person can't stand in their presence and not feel the effect of that heart, whether they're cognizant of it or not is another thing. It doesn't matter. But the vibration of the heart and the horse gets behind any walls that are up in a human and people will express the emotions that they won't necessarily express. If they're in the presence of humans, I find.

Um, so it's, it's like , uh , they're your door openers in a sense, but I bet.

Angela

Absolutely. And I seem to just open up the heart and the soul and the work that I see here. Like it's really hard to articulate to others. So I often want to say just kind of experience it, just kind of experienced this , or just come to visit and feel the difference when you're in their presence.

Um, and sometimes that can be enough, you know, just as I'm sitting here speaking with you and I'm watching one of the forces and she goes from one end of the paddock to the other, and very sure of her existence, she's definitely a horse. When I look at her, she gets she's . I called her my boundary for us because so often it's , it's sometimes difficult to , um, to set proper appropriate boundaries. She, you to do that.

And I've watched people work with her and how she helps them to establish very clear boundaries or she's, you know, in your, in your way, she's pushing you she's and she's actually stretching your muscles like as your boundary muscles. So it's actually really interesting to watch some of that work come to play, and I can't make up what happens here.

You know, I, I often share a story of a client who we were talking about vulnerability one day and we hadn't gone in the paddock yet with the horses. And all of a sudden this was young horse. She came over by the Caitlin and was standing and laid down for anybody who knows or doesn't know anything about horses laying down. If their most vulnerable state is where they could be attacked and put themselves at risk from a , a life-sustaining place.

And so we stopped that and stood there and talked to her about , and then I said to my client, I said, would you like to go in with her and , and just spend some time with her? And so sure enough, we did, and the horse didn't get up at all. In fact, she stayed laying down, my client kneel down next to her. And then the next thing my client was sitting on the ground beside her with the horses head in her lap. And that was where the rest of the session took place.

Wow. So that really raised my intuition of, and bore , my curiosity went with this particular client was what a vulnerability looked like, which was a very impactful, but just the whole state of how things were were happening. And that particular question was a very impactful question. And we, we continued on our discussion together. And then when it was complete, everybody got up off the ground.

And I said, you know, I said, if you're complete, I think, you know, the session, the session is now complete because of course it's will come. They will do the teaching that they need to teach. And then they will go back to their kind of hosting duties . So just hanging out

Heather

Of being , yeah , I've just been, yep . They're beers

Angela

And that presence, you give them , they really want you to be there in that present moment. And if anything has helped me and what I didn't realize actually worked with the horses is that they've actually probably been my therapy for years. I've been an owner for over twenty-five years and I didn't realize what they were giving to me because I've always been kind of A type personality of what's next, what's my next goal. Where am I going to and do it? How did it get there?

But now they, they helped me to sit back and to pause. And so there's so much in the presence that is to be learned.

Heather

Well, I'm glad you're learning it over the years. That's fantastic.

Angela

Yeah. I'm not a quick learner though, Heather, but you know, I guess so

Heather

They're patient, they've been waiting for Soul on Fire for a while now, so that's lovely that you woke up to it. It's awesome. So shifting gears a little bit, how do you get your intuition

Angela

Actually? You know, it's interesting because I, I didn't realize that I probably was very intuitive at a very young age, but didn't understand it. Didn't how to use it. Didn't know how to access this. And now it's a feeling. And I remember my early career days, I worked in finance and accounting. So you can only imagine this was, I would go and I would present something and it was, well, how do you know?

And I would just say, I just know, and I guess I did learn early on in that part of my career that I just know it wasn't very good in a , in a field and industry where data and numbers and analysis was really important. I learned how interesting enough at that early age, I learned how to use my intuition and the analytical side of my brain to blunt.

But it is for me, it comes as a feeling or it comes through symbolism or it comes to intention setting, or I'm a big believer in attracting what you want from the universe and putting it out there and setting your intentions. And it just, for me, it just seems to just happen. And so it's, once again it's hard to explain, but it is a sixth sense. It's a knowing and it's feeling into what emotion comes up through any given circumstance.

I'm one to really step back and reflect a lot And so with that, I know it's my intuition, trying to tell me something in any given situation. And then it brings up the curious side of me so that I get curious with myself, or I get curious with other people. So I've often asked a lot of questions throughout my life, but I didn't realize what it was until, you know , many, many years into my career and into my life experience.

But I would have been relying on intuition pretty much probably in my whole life. And , uh, but now I can ask her for in a much , much easier way. And because I've also learned one body . Yes . And that's one of the things with the horses I often will work with clients is where , where are you feeling that inside of you, so our intuition shows up in different parts of our body. You know, I often have things that will show up in my gut.

Um , I'll have things that show up in my heart and then sometimes I'm just, beaning from the soul from the inside out. So those are all parts of the tuition, correct ?

Heather

Yeah. Great. Well, and I mean, I think that when it comes in many different forms and I think it comes in many different forms for many people, I, I'm not sure that many people connect the dots that it is coming in, all those different forms. They'll just call it coincidence or there'll be like, Hey, cool, a deer, but they won't go the next step and look up the meaning of that deer or, or do the math on, Hey, that horse Snowden , what did that mean?

You know, like I think that it is constantly showing up in our lives and it's just turning up the volume or the awareness enough to actually take those moments of pause or reflection and say, huh, I wonder what that coincidence meant. I wonder what that synchronicity led me to or, Oh, in reflection, it seems like I was exactly where I was supposed to be. And funny how I got that nudge to do that, you know, and, and be grateful for those awarenesses or those synchronicities or that intuition.

Because I think too , that, that it's, it's like one fuels the fire for the next one for the next one, because you get almost giddy once you get on this intuition train of like, Oh, look at that happening. Oh, and isn't that fun that that happened. It always in this great that that happened and it's, it will just fuel a person to listen more and more. Cause it's like instant gratitude or instant gratification sometimes. Yeah.

Angela

It is like, I mean, I've seen, I've seen it just like that. I remember traveling back , I think I would say my first equity assistant learning program and I , um , we had three on-sites in British Columbia. And so I was traveling home, one of the trips and lo and behold, there was a lady who reached out to me by text and she says, I'm offering, there was something that she was offering that was forced related, FYI , assistant learning.

And I thought, well, isn't this sort of romantic , but this is happening just as I'm taking this particular training. And so like , those were some synchronicities and it's repeated stuff like that. That seems to have happened to me my whole life. So, you know , some people might say, Oh, it's a coincidence, isn't it? Or is it the universe that's responding to request an intent and, and direction and helping us to kind of gather us up on the path that we're required to be on.

Heather

Right. Yeah. And you know, I think some of my podcast guests have been about how intuition and joy are linked. And if you follow the joy, it just keeps on building on and on and on and on. And it's not like there aren't dips and valleys, but it's that you are almost rewarded. Like I said before, that you can count on this level of joy showing up when you follow your intuition that you didn't know was cause joy and happiness are different. Like you can be happy, but joy seems to arrive.

Yeah. It's, it's different and it's unexpected, you know, you, you can anticipate and be happy about something, but joy is this unexpected almost like grace. I see the two of them are very similar. They are like a divine gift.

Angela

Yeah, absolutely. And I think where I'm a lot of my intuition where I've learned to really access my intuition more, as I , as I've learned more about it, is that when we take time to pause and what is in those moments of being able to pause, we get, you know, when I was, you know , in my , my career days, I was very, very busy. I had young children, I was studying for my master's degree, know there was a lot happening at any given point in time.

And, but as I started to kind of slow down , um, through, well, somewhat through the aging process, but also by choice, I'm able to access that intuition even more because I'm able to take the time to allow things to come in and for me to take notice of that. And that's where, you know, I really can appreciate people who meditate. And a lot of mine comes through being in nature. Um , my meditation comes from being in nature and being grounded in that space.

Heather

Yeah. I'm the same way. Like if I veer off the path of my routine of being outside in nature, I'll have something arrive on my radar. Like, Oh, I'll go get numerology done, or I'll speak to somebody or be in there , like you, you should do this. You need, you need to spend time at the ocean or you need to be in the woods. And I'm like, Oh yeah, I do. Thanks.

Angela

Yeah . Once you have a couple of weeks for me too , I had a little bit of a belt down in our , with , with this year and Covid and how the school system works. And, you know, I have a daughter who's studying from home, but is in university, but she she's home for the year. They , they gave us notice that they will not be on campus for the full year. And my second daughter goes to school three days, one week to the next, and I'm trying to manage what the schedule is, getting her dropped off.

And I had a little meltdown, but then I looked back and I had two days where I didn't go out on my nature, walk with the dogs. And it was like, Oh, that's a pretty good indication that you just lost your emotional stability a little bit

Heather

In a world that we have right now with COVID and the education system and the healthcare system and the world being in various places, politically and blah, blah, blah. Yeah . There is a lot of charged energy, I would say with concern or anger, or like there's a lot of what one might call low vibration emotions or low vibration energy. Not that they're not valid at all. They're very valid, but if you're remotely empathetic, you need to discharge. What's not yours.

And that's, and , and we, we don't realize how much we are being assaulted by real EMF, from cell phone towers and whatever else, wireless, but we're also being assaulted with the emotional and energetic energy of the planet, the c ultures, the world, and being out in nature helps us discharge that and get back to ourselves. So you bring up such a beautiful example. I just needed to underline and highlight what you just said.

Angela

Well, it's been a really interesting year for us because typically my daughters compete with horses and with title. And so my husband and I are off down the road a lot this time, well, from summer and into the fall , um , right up until November actually. But this year, our lives slowed down with Covid. And we spent a lot of time on our land. We have 50 acres of land here where I'm basically growing my business.

And so we were clearing land and taking some of the forest down to grow agriculture, land pasture for horses , land for crops. And so it was probably the hardest work I've ever done physically and somewhat emotionally, but the most rewarding. And so I know people were asking , well, how are you doing through COVID? And even though parts of my business had changed a lot, it was like, you know what? I am the most grounded I've ever been in my entire life.

So there was, there's been learnings to COVID , which I hope a lot of people will take the time to reflect on what they learned , um , and what has changed for them and the impacts that they've had and whether they want those to continue on for them on a go-forward basis. Or is this a time for them to reflect on some transitions in their own lives

Heather

On that note? Thank you. Yes. Thank you so much for joining me on this podcast, because that is something everybody should take as a call to action.

Angela

Exactly. I hope they do. And Heather, I , once again, I can't thank you enough. And , uh , really happy that I actually changed where I was sitting for us to have our calls with the horses could validate some of our discussion. Yeah, that was awesome. Thank you so much.

Heather

Welcome until next time. Thank you so much for giving us your time today. We Truly appreciate our guests for sharing their stories and insights about how intuition has impacted their lives. And I'm so grateful for Peter trainer for his time in giving me this original music. It's now your turn. It's your turn to listen and act on your own intuition and help make the world a better place until next time, keep seeing being, knowing, and doing. If you liked this podcast, please share it.

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