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Getting Past the Love Hate Relationship with Intuition Makes Life Easier

Oct 21, 201921 minSeason 1Ep. 9
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Cathy Coleman was my guest on March 20, 2019. She left the corporate world where she worked in HR and as a trainer and facilitator of programs around the world to start her own company Triple L Training.  Cathy’s focus is to help corporations, non profit organization learn about how they can reach their potential as teams, in leadership roles or in customer services or helping adults and students learn how live their best lives. She is certified in Gallup Strengths Finder, Builder Profile and is currently working on getting certified in Japanese Psychology. 

Cathy loves books. One that she has spoken about often to me is Finding your North Star by Martha Beck 
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You can find Cathy at 

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https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/254033/strengthsfinder.aspx

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Speaker 1

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, welcome to yours , beers, knowers and doers, a podcast about intuition. Do you know what that is? Intuition to me is that inner sense for knowing that something is true and yet I have no proof, but there's so many definitions and there's so many ways it can come and we'll give you to bring together and share with you some amazing guests who have some amazing life stories and also some insights into how intuition can come and I'm looking to gather those crows in the trees.

I hope you're one of them. I hope that this podcast inspires you to be more connected to your intuition and I hope that by doing that we make the world a better place. Thanks for coming on this journey with me.

Speaker 2

My guest today is a volunteer, a Foodie, a person who is capable of almost any sort of carpentry, a cycling enthusiast. She somebody who is a journey leader, a coach. She loves helping people see and reach their own potential. She has facilitated programs around the world and she is the owner of triple l training. Today I had the privilege of having Catholic woman joining. Thanks for having me from thinking about yourself. Well, I'm a self employed.

I have my own company that I started about four and a half years ago. I come from the corporate world originally. Training and development is my specialty. And I work a lot with StrengthsFinder and helping people find their innate talent and their further purpose. And I think your topic of intuitional soak saying , cause it was intuition that led me to where I am today. So I know . So it was, it was wonderful. Yes. And yet every step along your ways become a toolbox, I imagine for sure.

The very beginning. Yes , yes. Yeah . Yes, I have. Well, like so many people, you have lots of roadblocks and hurdles that show up in front of you. And in order to keep going, you have to find a way to go over, under or around. And oftentimes, again, my intuition will say, oh, you need to jump over that one or this one that you're going to crawl under. So it just depends on, you know, what happens and, and who it happens to and, and what's going on for the direction that I take.

I'm very fluid in my movement. So wherever, wherever the world points me is the direction I take. So let's talk a little bit about the strengths finder. I've done it with you and it was fascinating cause I agree. My next phase of my life, without having that insight right, probably did that four years ago with you. I'm thinking and when I did the StrengthsFinder with you, the strengths that came up, I was like, I am doing that in my gig. Oh, I'm doing that part and I can't .

Oh , on doing that part , my gig . And it was just so cool to see the , what I'm doing now equated intuitively to these . So to have that insight before I even went on this journey probably would have given me more confidence to do what I was doing. I think. So I think it's very validating in your situation that it validated all your choices, all your intuitive leaps, all of your decisions to take a certain path.

It's lovely that it validated that for you and gave you just that even that inner confidence to keep going and know that you're headed in the right direction. Right. I think for many people , StrengthsFinder is a moment of awakening that the biggest message I try to send to people is that we have such special gifts as individuals and Don Clifton, the founder of strengths psychology would tell you that each one of us does one thing better than 10,000 other people.

Just kind of exciting if you can find out what your one thing is and it's really about studying what is right with people, not what is wrong with people, which is what psychology studied for so long and being the positive psychologist guru that I am and the love that I have for that StrengthsFinder really drew me in in in a really large way.

I think that when you understand your themes, it allows you to be who you are and celebrates that instead of so many people try to be something that they're not, or work in a job that they're not good at and they think if I just try a little harder, if I just work a little more, if I just give a little more of my time and my energy that I'll get it. And it just isn't true.

While the culture of gun Ricard gun repaired, you know, the dog and the bone work harder than the next guy is that has been entrenched in, in society probably since the depression or even before that. So do you find it an uphill battle for people to embrace that you're trying to get them not to work another day in their life? Cause that's Kinda how I feel is that I'm literally not earning . So is that a conversation barrier sometimes with people or do they just go finally?

It depends on the person. Sometimes they will be very celebratory and excited about the path that they choose. Uh , and other people just don't see how it could possibly be that way. And, and I think that the differences is that it's not that you're not working when you're using your themes and your talents and your strengths is that it doesn't feel like work. Right.

So, you know, I could spend four days in trading and development with great people in a classroom and learning and growing and being, and it doesn't feel a minute like work. I could be there all day every day. I could, I would do it for free. I love it so much. Right? Fortunately I have to eat and bills to pay so you can't do it for free.

But that's the whole message is that if it feels like hard work and it is hard work and you're exhausted at the end of every day and you don't have the time and the energy for loved ones and activities that you enjoy, then you are probably not working in an area of strength. And when you are, all of those things don't even exist when you leave work.

At the end of the day, you feel, you know, you might be tired based on the day, but you feel exhilarated by what you accomplish because that's what strength is all about. When you work on your strengths in an environment that allows you to use your strengths, you just keep getting better. There is no ceiling, so excellence just keeps showing up and you have those moments of, wow, how did I even do that? Or what just happened? Oh my goodness, like what just happened? I, how did I do that?

And then you're looking back and you're trying to figure it out and recreate it and then all of a sudden it just shows up again on another day. Those are moments to grasp onto and to really strive to achieve over and over again. When we go the other way and we're in a place that we shouldn't be and our strengths are not visible and we're not able to use them, the best we can ever hope for there is to prevent failure. We're never going to achieve greatness or success.

We will always just stumble along finding our way to not fail, which is to me a really sad way to spend our life. We're humans. We were brought here to live and be vibrant and to support one another and to just make this an outstanding experience for our time here. And if you're doing that, that stumble or try to find your way and falling down and getting back up repeatedly, you know, it's , it's not a life of joy and that's what I strive for.

What RMC, cause one of my things is being everything's connected is that you're just trying to create a pathway for people to live their authentic life and listen to their intuition. Because if they're working in their strengths, they're going to naturally be drawn to their strengths. Like I was naturally drawn to my strengths cause I was just like, what next? So if you're giving them that tool in advance, then they're just going to be able to ramp up that much faster. I would think so.

When I thought about, okay Kathy Coleman and I'm like just so mapping perfectly to what people need to hear if they're struggling in trying to figure out that what next. You know, cause you're, you're trying to put them in alignment with who they are in very calculated way in a sense. Cause you're sitting there doing a test on a computer and somehow it generates this beautiful mirror of what you are authentically well.

And I think of you, if you're speaking about intuition and StrengthsFinder, I think when good things are happening, it's easy to hear more good things. So when I'm flying along in my training and development world and my positive psychology and all of that, as I'm working in it and loving it, my brain is firing on all cylinders all the time and new ideas generate an eye and I get a new idea. And I thought, oh, I didn't even think of that.

And so I start to, you know, work with that idea a little bit and intuitively it takes you to other places cause it's fun and it's light and it's airy. And it just, it's like a wave that you sort of ride along for the joy of it, right? If you think about that poor individual who's tripping and falling and struggling, any ideas that come up are not going to be those exciting ones. It's going to be about how to get out of there, or why am I here? Or why do I dislike this so much.

So I think intuition often gets bred by the positive and love that we feel inside for things that we're doing in places where going the intuition for that person might be, you know, you gotta get out of this job, but that person doesn't want to think that or follow that because it's scary. It's intimidating. Where am I going to go? I've got a family to feed. There's so much that impacts that intuitive thought that most people won't listen. You know? Really it is nuts . What are you doing?

It's not secure to run and jumping . Right. And how could you ever, at any, when I left, when I left my job, I had a really good management job at a really big company. Great pay, great benefits, best benefits, top 7% and the whole country pension, top pension, the whole works. And I was the major breadwinner in my family and when I went home, told my husband that I was no longer going to do that job. All he could think of it was, but , but what about money? What about the money?

But you know what? There's so much more to life than money and I do just fine. So it, you know you where there's a will. There's a way I knew that I wouldn't let my family starve. I grew up waitressing and bartending. I knew that if I needed to do that for a little bit in order to supplement that, I would, I had in my intuition just kept. So I just kept asking, what's the worst that can happen? Well, I don't know. You might have to go serve for a little while. Oh sure. I could do that.

So, you know, I'm a very resourceful person, but it's because I believe in, in making choices that are right for us. So I open this door and it's the right door. Then the next door is going to open also. So I just intuitively believe that our path unfolds for us. There's always a bizarre safety net that happened . The little one . That's it. Cool. So how do you know what is an intuitive like it's like, what is yours look like? Mine I hear and here it is.

There's always a little voice inside my brain. And it's interesting because what I often say about intuition is I have a love hate relationship with it. And the reason is because I love it because it presents itself readily to me. And then I hate it cause sometimes I don't listen and I think why did I not listen to that intuitive? A little voice that played out in my head.

And there's one instance in particular when my kids were little, when my daughter was at an elementary school and there's a parking lot, it was the winter time. It was freezing cold. I had to drop something off and I had my son who wasn't in school yet with me and I had to drop something off and I pulled into the parking lot beside the school. And there's one area that was right beside the school, but it kind of sloped down towards the road.

And I drove a big Ford van at the time and uh , just as I was pulling into that parking space, I thought the first thought that came to my mind is don't park here. You're not going to be able to get out. Like it was IC slanted forward. I was driving in and, and that was just my thought and I was in a hurry. I had another place to get, I had to get my son into the band . It was close. So even though that's what I heard, it is not what I did.

I parked there and um , when I came out of school, I buckled my son all into the band. I got in it, put it in reverse. No way was I getting out of a parking lot. And the van actually just kept sliding forward on the ice towards the sidewalk. And then, which was where the road was. Oh. Then I was having all those moments of panic and so I had to put the band back in a park, get the boy back into the backseat , go into the school or find a janitor.

He got sand and shovels and three more abled out , push my van back out of the place, all because I just didn't listen and the whole time all I could think was you didn't listen. You didn't listen. You heard that this was not a good idea when you parked here. So I was late for my next appointment. It ended up being 10 times the trouble it would have been just to go like around the corner, one more feet if 20 feet right around the corner. So that's when I say I have that love hate relationship.

It's that I love it when I listen and when I don't listen, I'm a , I'm always thinking, how come you didn't listen to that? Right . I love my intuition. I think I'm very intuitive and I, I today listen much better than I did back then. My kids are 23 and 19 now. That was a lot of years ago and over those years that that's what happens. And I hear it and I, and I also, the other thing, if something feels really good, it hits my whole body.

I, you know, if I hear something and I'm talking with somebody and we come up with an idea, my whole body sort of lights up with goosebumps and it runs from top to bottom. And I always know that that is a good idea. Highlight. Yeah. Excavation . Do that. Do the , yeah, that was meant to be. So yeah, it's cool. I always love finding out how different people, because cause everybody has intuition, but not everybody knows what it feels like.

They think of, you know, the rot in the pit of their stomach when something's bad, but they don't necessarily think of what happens when it's good. You know? And people aren't always listening to what is good.

Like I had a chat with a personal in or really thirties when we were talking about food and how she's eating all the right stuff is , and so intuitively she knows she needs the bathroom but, but the rent dies on the me and it wasn't until I said like the red , she'd be on the inside oxygen causes the Brown on the outside. She was like, oh cause we just get in this, we all do, we get in this little zombie mode. Uh , well there's only certain times I need to listen to my intuition. Right, right.

But your intuition, as soon as I said it, she was like, Eh, I need to tell everybody. Yes . So true. But I think in instances that we do routinely, like grocery shopping, we don't necessarily listen this , how does it make sense that red is fresh, red is and somebody who's done their marketing and, but then when you take it home, you slice it open and it's brown on the inside. It's like that doesn't make sense. Right, right. But you don't even stop long enough to see that .

That doesn't make sense. Cause we'll just do it again. You know, and I , I did it for years and years and years and now it texts me off when I get sold. Right . So I find there's, part of the reason why I don't want to do as podcast is yeah, we're super intuitive. Some people are listening all the time, but then there's these tiny little moments where it's , it's not there. But I find it interesting that as soon as you flip the light onto that aspect of life, oh no, I need to go to the market.

Oh No, I need to be buying happy eggs. And then you can't go back. Right. Cause then it just doesn't make sense and it doesn't feel right either. So I just think it's interesting now it's everywhere, but because we're all so busy or whatever the circumstances I was , there's different areas that you listen. And then I think too, you know, when you, I think all of those points you make are so good. And I think what happens to us is a lack of mindfulness.

You know, we , we don't live in a mindful world today. We're all on a hamster wheel trying to get it done, trying to get to the next place, the next commitment mat , you know, whatever that might be. And my goodness, if you're married and you've got kids and two working parents and activities, like honestly you don't , you don't have a moment to be mindful. You're just are in survival mode and most of those days.

So for sure I think we don't listen to intuition in those moments because it's much easier just to do what we've always done than to question and have to go to a different story to make another stop. For sure. Um , how parents do it yet ? I honestly don't. Yeah, well it becomes survival mode sometimes, especially when they're little and everything is all happening at the same time. But you're right.

I mean if we did just listen for a moment and just chose a different route home so we could hit a different store or it would be a wonderful thing. And , and I think, you know, mindfulness comes into play cause if you're mindful, you're going to hear the intuition. And if you're not mindful, you probably are not going to hear it or decide that it doesn't matter cause it's easier to do whatever it is you do. Like the parking spot. I love that.

Honestly though , we all know that and it created just so much struggle for me on that day and all I had to do was just not park there and you know . Yeah. So big picture, little picture, anything that you have intuition about the admin done yet? One of the things that's being done ? Yeah, it's a great question, Heather. One of the things that speaks to me often is getting my message to a bigger audience and I think that the online world is not my forte. I don't enjoy that world at all.

But I think the message that keeps coming back to me is it's too special to not share and it needs to get out to more people because I'm in one little community dealing with some companies who have been embraced it in their environment. People, students, non propping them, nonprofits, helping students with career choices, all those types of things. But it's on such a small scale right now. I mean it's great for me, it's all I need, but I think people need it. Think the message needs to get out.

So that's the match that I've been receiving for some time. I am happy to report that I appear to be heading in that direction with the help of a new acquaintance, which intuitively at the coffee shop was on the phone asking for something from someone that she couldn't get and I heard her and I instantly thought of someone who might be able to provide it for her and I just, I intuitively felt like I needed to go over. So I was all apologetic. I'm so sorry. Okay, I'm right there. I heard you.

I heard what you were saying. Yes , yes. I just thought that this might be a place you might find that. And that little sentence led to a whole conversation. It turns out she's a digital marketer. Cool . And we have developed a friendship. We've met a couple times and , and we're going to help each other. She's somewhere a little bit from PTSD. I have some tools. She , she does digital marketing. I need those tools. Yes .

And so it was just a , just because I thought I can help her, but we've now created a whole new environment where we both will have the opportunity to do more of what we love to do right now . Cause I can't do digital marketing. Uh , the steps of the process don't work for me. So I've got to build that, that computer, I'm about people. That is awesome. It is awesome. And you know what the strengths movement is out there. It really is.

There's more than 20 million people worldwide have done the strengths assessment. The unfortunate thing is people do read it and say, oh that's cool and put it away. And I think it really does take a coach to help you realize all the potential that exists within there. Because if you , you only know what you know and you don't know what you don't know. And when strengths is concerned, I know quite a bit, so I can help. Very, very cool.

Well my goodness, candy, I so appreciate you coming today and being part of this. It was fun. Thank you for having me. I had a great time. Great. Well, until next time, yes, they will get you back. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 1

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. Thank you so much for giving us your time today. We truly appreciate our guests for sharing their stories and insights about how intuition has impacted their lives, and I'm so grateful for Peter Trainer for his time and giving me this original music. It's now your turn. It's your turn to listen and act on your own intuition and help make the world a better place. Until next time, keep seeing being, knowing, and doing. If you like this podcast, please share it.

If you want to find others like it, go to www.healingvitality.ca or wherever you would find your podcasts. We would love to have you join us on this journey. Come be a crow sitting in the tree. Be Part of our community. [inaudible] .

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