Welcome to See'rs Be-ers, Knowers, and Doers, a podcast about intuition. Do you know what that is? Intuition to me, is that inner sense of knowing that something is true and yet I have no proof, but there's so many definitions and there's so many ways it can come and I'm looking to bring together and share with you some amazing guests, you have some amazing life stories and also some insights into how intuition can come. A nd I'm looking to gather those crows in the trees.
I hope you're one of them. I hope that this podcast inspires you to be more connected to your intuition. And I hope that by doing that, we make the world a better place. Thanks for coming on this journey with me Before we get started today, I would love to share some tools with you to help with stress and feeling overwhelmed, especially for the energetically sensitive person. Feel free to go to my store on my website at www.healingvitality.ca. Thanks so much for coming on this journey with me.
So today I am super excited because I was inspired to start doing these fireside chats probably a month ago. And I've was inspired who to invite to them. And these women have said, yes, so I have Susan Fay ,Kathy Price, Dianna Stewart, and Catriona MacDonald joining me today around the fire. So I'm going to give them each the opportunity to introduce themselves. And then we'll get started talking about intuition and connection and, and just see where t his chat goes today.
So thank you so much, Susan, if you w ant t o introduce yourself and we'll get the intro started.
All right. Well, my name is Susan Fay. I wrote a book a few years ago called Sacred Spaces, and it was about connection with horses through science and spirit. And what I was seeing is that people are really, really longing for connection, not just with other people, but with animals and not really knowing how to do it. And so, like I felt that it was perhaps my calling, whether I wanted to, or not that , um , if I had some information, I should share that.
And I got into that writing the book and I realized so much of it is about our ability to connect with ourselves first and connect with our intuition. And so many people have shut that off over the years. And, you know, if you have corporate jobs or something like that, it's , it's kind of looked at as a thing that you should dismiss or, or ignore. And I'm just the opposite.
I think that in order for us to advances human beings and have better lives, that if we shut off that intuition, which is such a natural part of our being that we're only half a person and I'm, I'm kind of into this place where now I work with people and their horses primarily, and helping them get in tune with themselves first and then understanding all the nuances of connection and what is another being in this world looking for and why would they want to connect with us?
And what can we offer them in return for the connection they give us? And it's this beautiful process. And I called my book Sacred Spaces because I think that this space is something very sacred and I hold this work very close to my heart. And I feel like I'm very protective of it because it is, it is where we are vulnerable and it's where we really truly can change the world and change ourselves in the process. And so really that's my , um, my quick elevator speech.
I'm dedicated to that now as my, in the later years of my life here is that I really devoted to helping people figure out how to connect to their intuition and how to connect to the energy field and how we really communicate, truly communicate, not with words, but with the energy, with our heart energy, with our energy, we produce by our thoughts and our emotions. So that's my quick elevator speech here. So on to the next ,
Hi, my name is Kathy Price. I live in mid Wales U h, my work, I call Point of Balance. U m, the whole drive behind it is that I, I believe that when a system be it a person or an animal is in balanced a t every level, physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual. That is health. I come from a place where, for me, the only healer is the system itself. So my work is about helping, facilitating, being a catalyst. You know, she's what, w here i t fits to help the system find b alance itself.
And my sort of dream is that people take on board what the power they have within them. That's my job is to try and act within them to find balance f or themselves that they don't need me. That's the ultimate, that's what keeps driving me. U m, I work at distance all over the world. I'm blessed to have people a nd horses all over the place that I've worked with. And I l earn something from everyone.
My background, I come from a science background, which has been really useful c ause I have t o step t o nature, but it was h orses that brought me to this work, one h orse in particular. So I'm all about energy and connection. We're all connected. Everything is energy. And my work is using the field if you like to help the other system find that balance for themselves. So really that's where I come from. That's what I do. Point of balance. That's my short speech.
Lovely Diana. Okay .
Hello. I'm an intuitive energy channeler. I'm gifted in many ways. I see, hear and feel, and I work with your energy field and your past life , um, experiences. Um, I feel that if we have, if we have an opportunity to remove these blockages , uh, it will forever change your lives. In many ways, it will release , uh , embedded fear, shame and trauma that sometimes unfortunately got is in this lifetime, whether we're aware of it or not.
And as well as we are very , uh, our cells carry a memory memories our past , um, whether we're prevalent to them or not that react and cause , cause or attract issues into our lives at this moment, I believe that we were brought to the earth to experience great joy, happiness and grace, not the traumas and fears that a lot of us are , uh, guided that are created with, or that experience in this life.
Um, and what a world would , would be if we were all in a state of peace and balance and the great creativity and joys that would come from that is , it would be unbelievable. And working towards that peace, joy and love can mean many different things to any each individual. And this is the whole point of non-judgment and non-resistance and where would we go from there? Thank you.
Thank you. Cat. Tell us about yourself.
Hi everyone. Uh, from my house here in West Wales, just a little bit South of Kathy , um, my full name is Catrina McDonald , but most people call me Cat. The work that I offering to the world is called re- embracing kinship. Um, it kind of came being over a period of many years, I originally was practicing as a cranial osteopath and then began to incorporate some other kinds of energy work and eventually animal communication into my practice.
And then recently in the last , uh , year I became clearer and clearer that I needed to turn my focus completely. I felt a calling to just put down my practice, get that hard . I'd finished my time in practice and to turn my attention completely to the work of re-embracing kinship, which had been informed in the form of me sharing that work with people on courses- day a nd residential courses since 2014. So it's now my complete focus.
U m, and the work of r e-embracing kinship comes from a kind of seeing in my practice of a disconnect and experiencing of that in myself and also an experiencing of that as a practitioner, particularly with the animals that I went to treat and the very first horse that I treated, I had the most extraordinary experience of connection.
U h, he was a race horse who'd had a very serious injury and was being rehabilitated and he'd been handled in such a way that he had a lot of defensive behaviors around human being. So he bit people and he kicked people and he didn't do that in a small way. It was, you know, you're heading for the possibility of serious injury.
And so I offered some treatment to this horse from the place of not really having any clue, whether what I would offer, c ause I 'd only been a couple of years out of college at that point osteopathic training. And it was a very busy yard. And I remember at some point the nervousness of being so near to this creature who felt the need to defend himself from human beings just disappeared. I don't know where it went.
And I remember just being in this incredible connection space with this horse and him resting his head on my chest over my heart. And then I remember having t his sense of t he sort of that connecting space, just beginning to close in terms of the treatment. A nd, and he remained very relaxed and so did I. A nd I remember turning r ound and this very busy yard where, when I started the treatment, everybody was k ind o f doing something, nobody was standing around drinking coffee.
U h, they were all very busy and I t urned r ound and it was as if somebody had pressed a pause button because everybody was looking because this was so unusual. And I share this because it kind of was this incredible gift as a beginning experience of showing me the possibility that is there of that quality of connection. And just like Susan said, the sacredness of that coming together a nd meeting with another that we share this planet with.
So it s et the bar, it showed me what was possible and it, and it was a living question that stayed with me through all of my w ork i n years about what was that, what was that connection about? How did it happen? What were the prerequisites? How do I make it happen again? It just created this longing in me to want to be able to recreate that for myself so that the treatments that I offered had the deepest, most powerful therapeutic benefit.
But then what started to become out of that was I realized that there are certain ways of being that we can bring into that meeting. And n ow i f that was kind of born a methodology, if you like, and that is what I share now, because it became my longing to share that with other people and the work o f my heart.
And it's that longing kind of coming up to the surface more in m e, i t's just getting stronger in me that has made me turn away from my practice as an osteopath and a heater and a communicator, and want to just completely focus on sharing t his possibility with other people. So, u h, yeah, that's what the work's about essentially a t what my longing is. So thank you. Lovely to have everybody here.
Very lovely to have everybody here. I'm honored. A little bit about me is I, I am a naturopath for a company. I started in 2005. I worked corporately before that. So I feel like I've walked both sides of the fence. I work with people physically, emotionally, and energetically. I work better when I don't see people cause I see them better for lack of a better word. And I've, I've discovered that I knew that over time, but COVID has been a blessing that's brought that to the front.
I love watching the transformation that can take place when people do connect with who they are, when we remove all the clutter of what can clutter, a person energetically and emotionally and physically. And it's this, this podcast that I've started called See'rs Be-ers, Knowers and Doers has been another blessing that have brought people like you've just heard into my life. And it gives me joy because again, I'm helping people connect with who they are by listening.
So that's a little bit about me. So we are gonna dive into that word connection a little bit today and get into how it shows up for each of us. I think our introductions give people an idea of that. But if I talk about connection to me, connection is I mentioned this before we got on the podcast, my sister said, don't you find COVID lonely because you're alone in your house. Like you're not seeing anybody.
And I'm like, Oh my goodness, I don't feel alone at all because I feel so connected to so many beautiful new people I've met through my podcast. And she kinda , you can almost see the tilted dog head look at me because she was, she's very much an extrovert. And she loves that physical connection with people.
And I've said to her, you know, it's, I am never alone because I know I'm connected and that hit her like she, she got it then because she and I have been talking on the phone cause she lives in Winnipeg and I live in Moncton, New Brunswick and we've always been connected. So she got that. You don't need the physical presence in order to be connected. So as much as connection, I think in these COVID times, people are craving it.
They're craving the physical, but I think more so they're craving the connection that I'm speaking about in terms of the energy, in terms of connecting with, with the world around them, be it nature, be it just a soul to soul connection with their tribe. I think that the isolation, the imposed isolation of COVID has, has been a blessing to draw this need out in people. What do you guys think?
I find that , that I live in Amherst, Nova Scotia and my other job is I'm an optician contact lens fitter . And I completely agree with you because I'm an extrovert as well. But I find with being on , uh , being able to connect this way, I'm not overwhelmed and people's energy cannot attach to me as easily as it does when they're physically in front of me.
And I find as well that I can see even more because I am not dealing with the reactions and the emotions of the people standing in front of me. So I find this as a blessing as well, to be able to connect this way, it's opened up a whole different level of communication with your heart with your mind. And it leaves you in a very peaceful state instead of feeling drained or influenced by other people's energy. Yeah , I think so. Very sensitive. What do you think, Susan?
I totally agree with what you guys said. And one other piece of this that I find really interesting as it COVID allowed us a little more quiet space and in my studies, the brain needs quiet space to , to think, to integrate information and not just think, but think deeply. And I think we have as a society for everybody, we just got so busy that there was all this static and noise out there that we couldn't hear or even experience a connection through that.
And then now that we've all slowed down a bit, we're having that. And we're realizing that the connections we thought we had were not truly real connections . They were , maybe we were in the proximity of someone or we were talking to someone, but it was never, there was a focus on the connection piece of it. Like I'm going to truly listen to what you have to say, think about it, ponder it.
And that's what I love about now is that I'm seeing people coming up and going, you know what something's missing in my life and it's the connection, but I'm surrounded by people. So what is it? It's something more, it's a deeper connection that they're seeking. Then what we've been told is what connection is.
Yes. I think this has been my experience as well, that from a busy life of, you know , working one of my other jobs is teaching farmers to use computers at a very basic level. I hasten to add, there was sort of, and I was traveling each side, so my life has become much more still. And just as you were saying Susan, this isn't, it's, it's given me time to reflect and feel and the connection part of my Point of Balance work , you know, the work with the people in the horses, I it's been amazing.
And I just, just agree that it seems that people are reaching out for that type of connection because out of nowhere, people have been getting in contact and some have literally been getting in contact saying, I don't know why I'm emailing it, which is quite to bizarre, but , um, and then you have this amazing connection made.
You know , obviously the reason was that because very evidently you start talking and it's almost you step back and allow, you're not pushing out there when, when sort of, you've got to be more physically in the world doing stuff because we, we can't, I mean, here in Wales, we're only just opening up now. So we've had a long time of being very still. I found it amazing. I, my connection to so many different things, so many different parts of nature, as well as within my work has deepened.
It's blown my brain on many occasions , uh , because it's just like how on earth does that happen, but it does. So I totally agree with what everybody's been saying.
Cat , you just have come from seminars and courses where you're teaching people connection. Is that correct?
Well, actually a bit of both. So I was being teacher as it were, but I think of myself more as guide, you know, because that's the thing, when you make that connection as a teacher, you become the student as well. But yeah, it was just thinking there.
I think I was thinking about the , the other thing that I've been doing while I've been away is taking part in a training and just thinking of the connections that there are in this circle, there's 12 people in the circle and two tutors and the quality of connection between everybody in that circle is really quite extraordinary. And I feel I was just reflecting there when I was listening to you all talking and sharing about connection.
I feel like that has got something to do with the fact that we've all been in these restrictions around COVID that people have, you know, when you lose something, you realize exactly what it was about, the thing that you've lost, that was a treasure to you, and then you behave like you appreciate it, or you relate to that thing a bit more in , from a place of appreciation of it or a deeper appreciation of it.
So I think for me, there's been that within these whole times of, you know, just losing our every day, you know, connections that we probably are just in the background sound wallpaper of our lives, that we didn't get much attention to.
And I think the other thing that I wanted to say about connection is that it's been as a result of COVID and that slowing down that Kathy talked about from being in a very busy practice too , that's enabled me to really find a connection with who I am at my deepest place and to realize, you know, I had already , um, in 2015 spent some time in the wilderness vigil out on Dartmoor and got some clarity around really wanting to bring this work, the idea of kinship, re embracing kinship out into the
world, but then in, in that stillness and that quietness and the being by yourself from us that had increased so much in COVID, it just became so clear to me that, that the work that I needed to bring into the world, that my real calling was this work. And that having worked as a practitioner for 31 years has been my training ground. If you like in so many different ways to be able to, to respond to this calling.
So I think what I'm trying to say essentially is not just about the different qualitative changes in connection to others and to the more than humans around me in the place where I live, but also a deeper connection to something that feels like the truth of who I really am and the truth of my beingness and what that means in the world.
What I came, you know, what energy signature did I really come in to bring to this kind of co-creation that was mentioned at the beginning of the world, this co-creation of a new possibility. Yeah. So it's really brought that connection to me and myself in a deep way.
I have to say, I absolutely love that car because part of my ongoing study, you know , sort of been 20 years, I've been into this world now and I've tried to study philosophy and psychology and quantum physics and all sorts of subjects around, but of late, literally only about five or six weeks ago, I found the work of a guy called Nassim Haramein where he talks a bit is unifying physics from the quantum to the macro.
But one of the things is coming out of the work and his, his research is how firstly we're all connected is the actual physical thing. We are all connected. There are no boundaries, you know, we're just collections of energy. Um, and there is no edge of me, a beginning of the table or the chair. It's just all connected.
But also how much of the looking within is part of that connection on , I mean, I won't go into the physics because I will only get it wrong, but basically every protocol contains all the information of the universe. So there are so many ancient texts, the religions, the talk of look within on here, we're starting to get the, I'm going to say the science, the physics, the proof, it doesn't really matter, you know, that that's happening, but the truth is there. We look within to find our answers.
So what you is saying that being still and having this time to contemplate and realizing how important that work with you, I must admit there's a certain power little hair because it's sort of, you sit in the work and the work expands around you because your attention is on it and the connections are made, but you've got to look inside to find that root, who you are and what you're about, and that reconnection to the universe for me anyway. So I just loved what you said that.
yeah, likewise, He's on my list of people to read, but I'm in the thick of writing essays and assignments .
Yeah. He's, he's more of a, of a video guy, YouTube bring it. Yeah. But yeah, that's what I've got out about is that you look within and that's, the connection is made then .
Well, and Susan talked about that at the very start too , in terms of creating connection and being vulnerable with ourselves and connecting to our own intuition and what that can bring up to connect with others. So it's a big theme is we have to heal ourselves before we can heal others a lot of times. And yet others are often a reflection of what we need to heal in ourselves. So we need that, whether it's an animal or, or a human telling us that feedback loop. Right.
So it's interesting how being connected with our environment in some ways can be the stressor, but in some ways it can be the healer. So it's interesting. Because Diana, you talked about getting out of the physical stress sometimes is more healing for the energetic, right?
Yeah. It gives you room to breathe and to exist on a vibrancy or frequency level with other people that may not have ever occurred before because you were so overwhelmed by people's energy you never felt that connection in that way.
The theory is you can be in a room full of people and still feel alone because you're , you could , your systems could be overloaded or there's just not that ability to grease and to feel the connection to them, as opposed to this way, feeling the connection through meeting online or , um, uh , like I have done sessions. I can see people's energy, very clear, no matter where they live in the world.
And when I'm in a room full of people, because of my sensitivity, I become extremely overwhelmed because there's so much because it just seems like once their guides or their energetic fields realizes there's someone there that can, that can read them or feel them. They seem to want to take over and enforce themselves upon me when it may not be their time or their place for that to happen. So it's become a whole new world of ease and grace,
It's funny, the fact that distance can actually create connection.
Yes. Because they're not in a state of, I think it has something to do with the non-judgment that because they're not standing across from you, they unconsciously might feel that you're judging them. You might feel that they're judging you, but when you're in a connected through this way, this medium, there's no judgment because it's your energy that I'm seeing. It's not your physical self it's what's around you that is making the connection.
Yeah. Well, and Susan, you actually also have in creating your book, you've, you've talked about a way of connecting with the silence and connecting with other being in imagery and being about to create that Sacred Space. So do you find working in person or at a distance, any different because you're
Right. I absolutely agree that it is so much easier for me to do it from a distance and not have any information previous to doing a connection. I don't, it's the less, I know the better I can be, the clearer I can be. And there's almost no question. And it is really funny how the clearest connections I get are through a landline. And then , uh, just the phone with no video video can be very confusing sometimes in this work . So people think it's like, well, I want to have a video call.
It's like, Oh no, it's going to be harder. I'm getting to where I can just kind of getting used to navigating that. But knowing that some of the information may be missing in that, that video call, but I wanted to get on touch on just one other thing that I think is really important about the connection pieces that people have for so long, had very superficial connections that they don't even realize there's this deeper level of connection you can attain.
And , and Cat, she talked about that about when you were doing the healing with the horse and here was this like incredibly deep connection you were experiencing. And what I like to is help people experience that because once they do, they will seek that out again because it's so different. And then that's its own self motivator to change your inner world yourself so that you can start becoming able to do that connection.
Because until we clear up our own internal stuff, that gets in the way it creates all that static in that connection, we can never really truly experience that full heart, mind, soul connection with another. And that is for me when I could do that, it's such a beautiful feeling. And again, you, you think, Oh, I just had a connection with this person, but it wasn't deep enough for me. You start longing for those really deep connections with people.
That's just, I just wanted to kind of throw that out there about that. I, I always find it till somebody realizes they can do something it's not even in their realm of possibility. They don't even know that could exist.
That's very true. And you think about just even some of the way conversations go and what you repel and what you gravitate to. And I think once people kind of turn on the switch of the deeper connection, they start noticing how many conversations there are about nothing and how it's not a judgment necessarily, but it's just how they then will migrate towards conversations about something. Do you guys notice that in your own experience over life, like,
No, I did want to jump in and take over or anything, but I, I really find that the conversations, what I, what I realized when I'm with people, it's like so many people feel very uncomfortable in this quiet space because they do have to converse with themselves in, and a lot of stuff can come up that they can drown out by these other, like you say, kind of mindless conversations or busy-ness that they put into their lives.
And, and when we really start to be able to sit in silence and be okay with ourselves, then we know we can start to contribute to another relationship or connection in a, in a more pure way, because we're not coming in with a need for something in ourselves to be fulfilled by another person. And so I do that with the horses. It's like people often come and they say, I want this connection with my horse, but they're really needing that connection so badly.
And the horses repelled by that neediness that they show. And so they're not even really aware of that and their own self, like , and so we have to go and peel about that layer. It's like, why do you need this so badly? What are you, what do you think you're missing in your life? What can't you give yourself?
Because I think that when we were Cat was talking about her ability to, to connect with that horse and do the healing was because she came in that purity of not needing anything from that horse and being able to give fully and be completely there for that horse. And how many of us can say we can do that because almost every conversation is I need something for this person I need attention, or I need to be heard, or, you know, one of those kinds of things.
So, you know, I think there's quiet work is so important because it gets us to that place. Where can we be okay in and of ourselves and not have to have a draw or a pool of leading to pull it from someone else? So just my thoughts on , on that one.
Yeah. I think, I think you brought beautiful point there about what I think we call active listening is so often, and I will put both hands up as having been guilty on this, you know, in the past practice that I'm trying to perfect, you know, the active listening, because it's you jump into a conversation and then immediately my brain goes, Oh yeah, I've got to tell them about that. Instead of actually listening, it's always, Oh, what's the next point going to be.
And so I really try to make a point of active listening of sitting still and listening and not worrying about what gets said next and actually connecting to the listening.
The other point, just going back to what Susan said about how, when people experience an , you know, Cat was talking about the connection with the horse and when they experienced that for the first time, it's something beyond their imagination, beyond their experience and that comes into my work as well, because like Susan , I prefer not to know anything about the person or the horse, and then there's no guarantee, but when change happens, it can happen really quickly.
And people seem to have a sort of a block that healing has to be hard work and takes time when in fact it can help them faster than the speed of light. So it's about that experience out of there they've never experienced before. They've never thought of something like that. So with Susan that the connection with the horse and Cat the connection with the horse, it's something so beautiful. Um, and until you've experienced it, you know, it changes your world, put it like that.
So, yeah, that was just, sorry, I'm mixing up the conversation lines here, but it was about the active listening and also showing, allowing people to have a new experience that changes them, that shows them possibility .
Well, and the possibilities are endless. Like you say, especially when you think about that initial or that comment you made about how everything is inside proton. Like the possibilities are endless. If we realize that and integrate that into the possibilities, like I think we live in a situation where sometimes our experiences are our limits and our intuition and our connection to that intuition sometimes requests or inspires us to go outside of our existence, our experience.
And that takes a leap of faith, but everything is a leap of faith. Everything is a leap of faith to me. And if you don't do it, the things that you can lose, you can lose out on such deep connection. You can lose out on joy and happiness and so much more. Anybody have some final thoughts before we wrap up here, this has been lovely. Thank you so much, ladies.
It's so funny. We're all in this great space here, or I just feel it by itself. And it's like, what a, what a wonderful conversation. And we were talking about before, how we needed these visual cues to know when we could talk or when we shouldn't did, I didn't see anybody or hear anybody in this whole time talking over anyone, or, you know , so it's, it's being in that space of active listening like Kathy's talking about where we can just respect and listen and hear.
And I'm just so motivated and inspired by everybody that was on this call and knowing that we're all out there doing these pieces of this work in our own special way. So I thank all of you for this.
Yeah. I also feel that, you know, what you just talked about there, Susan, is, is this kind of listening, like you said, Kathy resting in that stillness in active listening. And it makes me think of when you watch a herd of horses and they're all resting together in a field. And I seen them where the yawn moves around, you know, each horse in turn or the leg stretch and it just moves through the herd. And if I'm in connection with them, I can feel the moment when it arrives with me.
And so if we're all just, just a part of all of the life, you know, this life on this beautiful earth, then there's a moment where life in the form of speaking, something happens to move and arrive with us. And the active listening, I think, is what allows us to connect and understand that it's, that life is moving in that way. And in us, in that moment, and then we speak kit
A many routes to whomever whether it's human or otherwise it, you know , for the moment for them to speak. So, yeah, it's been really beautiful connecting with you all and , uh, and with everybody listening. So yes . Thank you all for being here,
Diana , any further, any final thoughts, Diana?
Yes. It's , it's wonderful that from such different aspects that we've all connected in this way. Thank you, Heather. And that we have experienced and in our own way, in our own level , um , the same gifts and abilities from completely different genres or avenues. So I'm very grateful for that. So thank you.
Yeah, it's been neat. Uh, it's just been neat . It's before we started, we created just a very peaceful place and I'm grateful for that as well. So thank you for that Diana and everybody on the call today. And I hope that this inspires people, I'm sure it will to strive for that deeper connection. And if somebody on the call inspires you to connect with them, please, please, please, please. That would just totally light my fire if that could happen for these people that have joined me today.
So thank you everyone until next time.
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you
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