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Secrets from the Green Room

Irma Gold & Karen Viggerssecretsfromthegreenroom.com

In each episode of the Secrets from the Green Room podcast hosts Irma Gold and Karen Viggers chat with a writer about their experience of the writing and publishing process in honest green room-style, uncovering some of the plain and simple truths, as well as some of the secrets – whether they be mundane or salubrious – and having a lot of fun in the process.

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Episodes

Margaret River Readers & Writers Festival series. Episode 22: Claire G Coleman

In a special series direct from the Margaret River Readers and Writers Festival, Irma talks to Claire G. Coleman about how poetry influences her non-fiction style, the downsides of book touring, how she deals with Twitter trolls, the complications of working with two publishers, her love-hate relationship with the editing process, and how she responds to criticisms that she’s ‘not blak enough’. About Claire Claire G. Coleman is a Noongar woman whose family have belonged to the south coast of Wes...

Jun 28, 202237 minSeason 2Ep. 1

Season 2. Episode 21: Robert Watkins

Craig and Irma unpack the role Amazon plays in the book world. Then Irma chats with Ultimo Press publisher Robert Watkins about why diverse publishing is so important to him, how to nab an editorial job, the way that authors should own the publicity stage and be proud, what makes him want to publish a manuscript, what good sales mean in terms of hard numbers, the impact of Covid on the publishing landscape, and a case of mistaken identity in the green room. About Robert Publishing Director of Ul...

Jun 01, 202249 minSeason 2Ep. 10

Season 2. Episode 20: Tony Birch

Craig and Irma talk about books that have wowed them. Then Tony Birch chats to Irma about the sensitivity around fictionalising family, the importance of First Nations writing, who has the right to tell certain stories, the problems with teaching writing at university, the rejections that have really stung, the time his mum threatened a radio host, and the famous writers who have snubbed him in green rooms. About Tony Tony Birch is an author of three novels, four collections of short stories and...

May 04, 202255 minSeason 2Ep. 9

Season 2. Episode 19: Sulari Gentill

Irma and Graig talk about teaching writing in schools. Then Craig talks to Sulari Gentill about how she turned a hobby into a profession, why she can write anywhere but finds a quiet environment impossible, how she was snubbed at a major awards ceremony, the pros and cons of the profit share model of publishing, the ways in which writing about the past reveals patterns in contemporary times, and the time she accidentally hug-assaulted Tanya Plibersek at a writers festival. About Sulari Sri Lanka...

Apr 07, 202246 minSeason 2Ep. 8

Season 2. Episode 18: Cat Sparks & Rob Hood

Irma and Craig discuss inspirational quotes. Then Craig chats to writing couple Cat Sparks and Rob Hood about whether there’s competition in a relationship when you’re both writers, how your book can be a sausage in the sausage factory, how hard it is as an editor to get what you want from a slush pile (because authors don’t read the freaking guidelines!). Also, the benefits of being published by small presses and having a supportive writing community, what constitutes a good writing day versus ...

Mar 16, 202248 minSeason 2Ep. 7

Season 2. Episode 17: Nigel Featherstone

Irma and Craig talk about the differences in typing and handwriting work. Then they both speak to Nigel Featherstone about how he always feels like an outsider, why it shits him that writing isn’t considered real work, how Tony Abbott was the unlikely inspiration for his novel Bodies of Men , the strange benefits of interviewing his characters, why he is an obsessive re-drafter, the experience of a writing nervous breakdown and the moment his agent thought he literally died on the phone to her. ...

Feb 22, 202250 minSeason 2Ep. 6

Season 2. Episode 16: Isobelle Carmody

Irma and Craig talk about literary tourism. Then Craig talks with bestselling fantasy author Isobelle Carmody on the challenges of meeting fan expectations, why her writing income has suddenly dropped dramatically and how she adapted, whether genre labels are useful, the benefits of doing a creative PhD, and the repercussions of being an activist author. About Isobelle Isobelle Carmody is one of Australia’s most beloved and awarded authors of science fiction, fantasy, children's literature, and ...

Feb 02, 202250 minSeason 2Ep. 5

Season 2. Episode 15: Allison Tait

Craig and Irma talk about the dead authors they would most like to interview. Then Irma talks with Allison Tait (AL Tait) on why the first structural edit she received did her head in and how she now works through them, the most difficult book rejection she’s ever experienced, why children’s book authors don’t get the kudos they deserve, and a whole lot more. About Allison Allison Tait (or AL Tait) is the internationally published bestselling author of middle-grade adventure series The Mapmaker ...

Jan 11, 202253 minSeason 2Ep. 15

Season 2. Episode 14: Charlotte Wood

Craig and Irma discuss lesson learned from life on the road doing a book tour for Irma's novel The Breaking . Then Irma speaks with national living treasure Charlotte Wood about the terror of public exposure on releasing a book into the world, the discomfort of the first draft and why it’s important to ‘look for trouble’, how and when to get feedback on work-in-progress, how the pandemic has changed book publicity, why writers desperately need more financial support, why a book rejection was the...

Nov 30, 202152 minSeason 2Ep. 3

Season 2. Episode 13: Mirandi Riwoe

Irma and Craig discuss Covid-19 impacts on book sales. Then Craig chats with Mirandi Riwoe about combining fact and fiction in her historical novels, viewing the past through the lens of the present, why it's important to her to write Eurasian and Chinese characters, and the important difference between accuracy and authenticity. About Mirandi Mirandi Riwoe is the author of the novella The Fish Girl , which won Seizure’s Viva la Novella prize and was shortlisted for the Stella Prize and the Quee...

Nov 09, 202143 minSeason 2Ep. 2

Season 2. Episode 12: Jack Heath

Irma and Craig talk about balancing the writing life with real life. Then they both chat with Jack Heath about what working as a full-time author looks like, feeling like a fraud even when you’ve published 36 books, the differences (and similarities) between writing and promoting both adult and kids’ books, what characterises an ideal publisher, the perils of social media and whether it’s actually necessary to sell books, his most embarrassing fan moment, creepy fan interactions, and a memorable...

Oct 19, 202147 minSeason 2Ep. 1

Season 1. Episode 11: Nikki Gemmell

Craig and Irma talk about what you write on your immigration card and when you first feel like a ‘real’ writer. Then Irma talks to Nikki Gemmell about the trauma of being outed for The Bride Stripped Bare , the importance of re-drafting and harsh edits, how words can change the world, the creep of imposter syndrome even when you have published a ton of books, dealing with vicious criticism, and how a leather-bound volume of Jane Eyre changed Nikki’s life. About Nikki Nikki Gemmell is a bestselli...

Jul 28, 202151 minSeason 2Ep. 1

Season 1. Episode 10: Lisa Fuller

Craig and Irma talk about the good the bad and ugly sides of teaching writing. Then they both chat with Lisa Fuller about the state of publishing, how the industry can better support First Nations writers and editors, how the Pancake Parlour figured in her winning a major prize, and the many books her dog has eaten! About Lisa Lisa Fuller is a Wuilli Wuilli woman from Eidsvold, Queensland, and is also descended from Gooreng Gooreng and Wakka Wakka peoples. Ghost Bird is her debut YA novel, for w...

Jul 06, 202146 minSeason 1Ep. 10

Season 1. Episode 9: Sofie Laguna

Irma and Craig talk about writing groups and getting quality feedback on your work. Then Irma talks with Sofie Laguna, on finding the essence of your characters, the fraught space of awards, how kids have made her writing practice better, the cruel world of publishing, how she struggles with success, navigating good and bad reviews, why writing a screenplay can sharpen the book edit, and how reading is like having an author's dreams in your hands. About Sofie Sofie Laguna is the author of 21 boo...

Jun 11, 202148 minSeason 1Ep. 9

Season 1. Episode 8: Eugen Bacon

Craig and Irma talk about the fraught experience of getting book endorsements. Then Craig chats with Eugen Bacon about issues around black writing, the joys and difficulties of life that trigger inspiration, the complexities of defining genre, the art of the short story, and why reading Toni Morrison is like eating the richest truffles. About Eugen Eugen Bacon is an African Australian author of several novels and fiction collections. She’s a British Fantasy Award winner, a Foreword Book of the Y...

Apr 14, 202150 minSeason 1Ep. 8

Season 1. Episode 7: Valerie Parv

Craig and Irma talk about writing guides, in particular the new book by Georgia Richter and Deborah Hunn, How to be an Author . Then Craig chats with Valerie Parv about how she went from an advertising copywriter to sales of over 34 million books, whether genre elitism and genre prejudice exist, the crazy debacle that was dubbed Parvgate, the impact of COVID on reading and publishing, moving from romance into science fiction, and a funny make-up mix up in the green room with her husband. About V...

Mar 24, 202149 minSeason 1Ep. 7

Season 1. Episode 6: Brendan Fredericks

Craig and Irma talk all things book launches. Then Irma chats with her publicist Brendan Fredericks about how to best work with your publicist, his friendship with Liz Gilbert and getting drunk with Germaine Greer, what not to do as an author on social media, his faux pas with Richard Ford, and his green room adventures with dogs. About Brendan Brendan Fredericks has worked in the book industry for nearly 20 years. He started as a bookseller and events manager with Angus & Robertson, working...

Mar 03, 202157 minSeason 1Ep. 6

Season 1. Episode 5: James Bradley

Craig and Irma talk about rejection and how to cope with it. Then Craig talks to James Bradley about his path to becoming an award-winning author, how to write about important and urgent issues without becoming preachy, his love/hate relationship with social media and how to protect yourself as an author in the public arena, why genre shouldn’t define a book but can usefully shape it, hanging out with Julian Barnes in the green room. About James James Bradley is a novelist and critic. His novels...

Feb 04, 202148 minSeason 1Ep. 5

Season 1. Episode 4: Karen Viggers

Irma and Craig talk about the challenges of public speaking and how to be Wonder Woman on stage. Then they chat with Karen Viggers about the painful process of editing her latest novel and trying to find its heart, how escaping a party of screaming girls led to discovering she was a bestseller in France, the reality behind the ‘glamorous’ whirlwind of an international publicity tour, the complexity and confusion around the foreign rights process, how Instagram culture is compromising book review...

Jan 19, 202155 minSeason 1Ep. 4

Season 1. Episode 3: Chris Hammer

Craig and Irma talk about the ins and outs of writing gigs on cruise ships. Then they both chat with Chris Hammer about the unexpected international success of his debut crime novel, Scrublands, how the publisher you are with effects sales (and it’s not just big versus small), the value of awards (those that sell books and those that launch careers), forgetting your own character’s name during publicity, faux pas on meeting a super famous author, and what a walk-on part in his own movie might lo...

Jan 01, 202153 minSeason 1Ep. 3

Season 1. Episode 2: Holden Sheppard

Irma and Craig chat about the manuscripts that never make it to publication. Then Holden Sheppard chats with Irma about writing failures and the drive to succeed, the publicity whirlwind and inevitable comedown, self-doubt and second-novel syndrome, being snubbed by literary big shots in the green room and world domination goals! About Holden Holden Sheppard’s debut novel, Invisible Boys , won the Hungerford Award which led to publication and more awards, including the West Australian Premier’s ...

Dec 08, 202042 minSeason 1Ep. 2

Season 1. Episode 1: Anna Spargo-Ryan

Craig and Irma chat about why they’ve launched the podcast, the history of the green room and their own green room experiences. Then Anna Spargo-Ryan chats with Irma about how she grew up with her own publishing house (sort of!), the manuscripts that never made it to publication, how she accidentally pitched a book on Twitter that led to a heated auction, what said heated auction involved (hint: a lot of emotional paralysis on the couch), the worst rejection of her writing life and a whole lot m...

Nov 14, 202057 minSeason 1Ep. 1
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