Tanya’s Rizz

Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast.

Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in.

Scrub Dub dub. I was very loud in my ears mine too.

Wow, Sorry about that.

Happy Eclipse days clips of the Tanya and I went out and washed the eclipse and our eyes feel weird.

My eyes actually feel weird, feels placebo, you think so.

I think you might be right.

Honestly, I watched the same eclipse with you guys. In My eyes feel fine right now.

So we from home.

But I used your glasses and I use somebody's paper glasses, and I think maybe the paper glasses screwed me.

That'll happen.

Yeah, all right, So what are you gonna do about that?

I think it's just because live it out.

To see what happens. Yeah, there's not much you can do.

No, but they did give us a lot of warning is not to look at it, you know, directly, So sometimes you have to just follow the rules.

Yeah.

Did you go see it? Becca?

No? I looked up and it was so bright, like, okay, so I have I was trying to take a video and.

I was going on my tippy toes to get closer.

That's hilarious.

Sad, sad, there's something sad about.

It, also inspiring.

You're so close to the Yeah, about one inch closer. Thank you.

I have skylights in my house, so the sun was in direct you know view.

Are you bored by my story?

It's been a long morning. I'm sorry.

We'll get to market a minute. We're going to get to market a minute.

But anyways, I looked at it and I was like, that's very bright.

But I can't wait to see the photos that people put like the Science Channel's posts, right right, Yeah, you're not really one that has to see it, and.

You want to see in the path of totality anyway, so we're not going to see much inspiring.

Yeah, it's gorgeous national geography.

Yeah, make sure you credit for this.

But okay, so are you having a manic Monday? Mark?

Wow, it's been a fine Monday's long. Mondays are long, and Mondays are hard get back into it.

To me lately.

So we do a pitch meeting every morning after the morning show. We go around pitch ideas, talk.

About the next day show.

What kind of stuffy?

Yeah, so I'm all gung how excited about this? Beautiful scrubber named Jenna that is trying to become a contestant on Survivor and is really just putting her dreams out there.

And I'm like, I hope she gets on. I wish you the best.

Save that crap for your podcast his words exactly.

I think that is. But the point is.

Your podcast is if you're not a part of right exactly, and I like crap the leader.

Of the reels TikTok community.

Perhaps I put it a little harshly, but the point was that I think that I hope she gets on the show, and I wish you the best. I don't think that the Ryan Seacrest Morning You Want KISSFM is the best platform to be talking about her necessarily great your podcast would be an ideal situation for that. So that's all I was trying to say. I might have put a little bluntly because I have such a close with Tanya. After so many.

Years working, I pitched like three more ideas. I can't remember what they were now at the moment.

But they weren't great.

Yeah, take it for your podcast, I was.

Under I agree that that's more of a podcast topic. I do agree, but I do think delivery is everything, and I think you were in the wrong if you said say that crap?

Did I not apologize to you? Afterwards?

I had to tell you. I said, I've been very upset with you for the last hour, and so I apologize and he apologized.

This is my biggest Haley and I argue about this all the time because she's like, I can't read your mind. I need you to communicate if I've done something that upsets you. I'm like, why don't you know me well enough to know that what you said needs an apology?

Exactly? Mark, How do you not know me well enough to.

Know together longer than me and Haley have been together.

Exactly that it deserves an apology.

You and I have a different kind of relationship. Though I wouldn't say something like that to other people on.

The staff, nobody else on this shot and make it seem like an endearing.

It is an endearing thing. You and I are close enough to just be with each other.

Oh my gosh, All right, well that's okay.

Like everyone has tough Monday mornings, you know, Yeah, yeah.

And I had to tell them. I was like, I've been upset with you for the last hour.

Oh Wow, you know you were holding it.

I wasn't sitting in my chair.

That's why you left the room.

Yes, what really?

Not really?

That seems harsh. We I thought we I thought there was an olive branch.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, we squashed it.

There was an hour there where I was fuming, fuming, left the room, left the room, took an extra on PAWNI break.

Actually, I spoke to Easton for a while during that.

Yeah, we had a nice little chat, Yeah, chatting about Mark. Tony comes over, She's like, I really hate Mark today, and I was like, me too, have a seat.

No, I'm just kidding me.

I'm just kidding Mark. I would never say that we're talking about weddings.

So when I got upset, I talked to Easton too. He's always uplifting.

Yeah that's true, that's true.

Yeah, but we were. We really were just talking about weddings.

Now, Oh, speaking of what did you do your pinteress board?

It's a lot harder.

To do a Pinterest board than one woe thing. But yes, I have started my pinteress board.

What was hard about it?

I didn't realize I did have one that was made from like twenty sixteen.

Yeah, that's very own brand, right, so probably hated some Yes, make some things I have like.

A A I don't even know I had some weird boards going on.

I might need you to pull up some of the images or you had from twenty sixteen.

I could do that.

I can find that. I'm having a hard time finding the boards, the photos and the board, so maybe you can help me with that.

Yeah, I'm so confused because in my mind.

But yes, I have updated my Pinterest board. But now I'm kind of stuck a little bit because there's one potential where we could be doing our wedding outdoors in a backyard or in a ballroom, two very different spaces. So I'm like having a hard time with my vision because the vision is very different in a ballroom than it is in a backyard, you know what I mean?

Yeah, is your Pinterest to public situation?

Should probably?

I mean, I can't imagine I've made a private Why would I make in private?

I don't know. I can't. Oh, okay, maybe maybe Anya Brad is it pinterest dot com slash Tanya rad.

I have no idea.

Nope, it's not. Nobody else has that. Not you has that?

Are you sure? It's not me.

It muld be an impostor shout.

Out to Tanyadeva.

Oh a different vibe.

But yeah, so anyways, that's why I'm just stuck in the vision.

When do you think you're going to make that decision if it's going to be in a ballroom or out.

So here's the thing. When you have a wedding, you're going to cut a knock in because.

No, this is not the same because I am not someone who's dreamed about getting married and having a wedding. I think everyone thought you would have this literally planned by the hour detail as soon as the ring gout went on the finger.

I think the problem is I can't make a decision because like, so, if we do it in the backyard, which is where we want to do it, our guest count is about we're missing fifty.

People that we would really want to invite.

If you do it in the backyard, correct, Okay.

So the number is a lot smaller than we thought.

Okay, we'd have to cap it.

And so that fit.

I was getting really ruthless at the guest list and like cutting people left and right, which felt really like sad.

I was like, I kind of like, actually really want them to be there.

But sorry I spelled it wrong. It is pintries dot com slash Tanya Rad twelve years ago. People I can't get enough of?

Oh, twelve years ago?

Hold on mid break for the wedding talk because this is breaking.

There are only three of them on here. Can you name the three people Tanya could not get enough of in the year twenty twelve.

I'm not in college.

I don't know you were here.

Okay, I'm gonna say maybe the guy from what One Republic, Ryan Tennor.

That's an excellent guest. However, no, no John Mayer either.

Who were you? I didn't know you in twenty twelve? Who was popular?

These are?

When I say these, you're gonna be like, oh yeah, okay, hold.

On, Oh really it makes sense?

Oka oprah Nope.

Can you give me men or women?

I got two men and a woman.

Even I don't know I made what genre they like?

Where? What category?

The women? Should be easy to our music? One is a film actor or TV actor.

Matthew mcconaugh.

No Taylor Swift, No, no tailors, No, no Beyonce?

Who is she?

The woman?

But the lone woman should be easy?

You look up so he can't guess it should be easy easy, Yes, because of me, because I love her still. Yes, you love two of these people you never stopped talking about back then, Shakira. No, all right, here's the two of them dated each other.

Oh a couple, John legends.

So much confidence.

I remember this. You were heartbroken when these two broke up. It was like the end of the world.

Selena and Justin.

Yeah, and now you just like hang out with Selena. Every know, the casual who knew?

Thanks Selena. And the last one I'll just give it to you is zach Effron, which.

Went Justin's on there twice. There's a there's a picture of him and then a key chain of his face in a heart.

That's my own photo.

Oh Jesus, is it weird that I own this question of answers? Yes, Sonny, I heard you.

Talk about zac Efron. This is mind blowing.

Honestly, I don't think I ever had a zac Efron moment, but clearly I did.

I don't know.

The caption is zac Efron's smiley face, and then it's the album art for Boyfriend by Justin Bieber, and tiny writes Justin Bieber, her heart heart this is my jam all caps.

Yeah that sounds right. That that's me.

That's definitely me, Yeah, no doubt. Wow, Wow, that was really good TV.

I cannot miss Tanya's pinterested.

TV. I cannot miss a from twelve years ago. Let's see, I got one? What is that one TV?

I can't miss TV.

I cannot miss.

Vampire Diaries yep, as one of them.

Okay, what is that one? The top?

The men of Vampire Diaries? Need I say more?

Yeah, okay, I can't miss in twenty twelve.

But she have said that's a girl? Uh, Montree Hill in there?

No, neither of those is in there. I can't. Some of these are kind of broad.

When is a show I have never heard of in my life? It's on the c W Arrow.

No, you made out with a guy from Marrow?

Yeah you did teen Wolf.

Oh god, there's two c W shows I've never heard.

Yeah, but.

They just reveal it.

Yeah.

The Secret Circle.

Oh my god, the show was so good.

Okay, if you.

Have not seen The Secret Circle, you need to watch it, right, but streaming somewhere I don't know. But it's like with Phoebe Tonkin and yeah, Britt Robertson, such a good show.

This picture is captioned this is where it all started.

Yeah, that's good. Now one of these again very obvious to me. The Bachelor that's on there. Yes, very good.

Even what I was thinking of though downhill from what's going over.

Let me get your time.

I'm sorry.

Just it's fine.

It's just another man Monday, everybody.

Ultimately, this is fine.

I don't there's one more that you should name here that I'm.

Surprised a corner over there.

You were the reason we talked about the show on the radio so much, and then you stopped watching it. We still talked about it because you'd already said the president.

In twenty twelve.

Yeah, oh, pretty there.

It is nice. First of all, I.

Watch it till the end, Yes I did. I know exactly who happens? Yes, I know, I know. I for sure watch it till the end.

What is this is that? Also, pretty little Liarus? What is that is that? Lucy?

Lucy Hale? Just as an individual? And then the other mysterious CW show is Ringer.

Ringer another great show.

No commentary from tinys photo, just a picture of the cast and just says Ringer on CW, this is so great.

You have a Pinterests board called work it Out. There's exactly zero photos in it. It's empty, it's blank.

Who knew I was on Pinterest in twenty twelve?

You have favorite places and spaces.

It feels like you were really on it.

Yeah, like can I There's a there's one called books worth Reading and two of the posts. One of them is a picture of Peta from Hunger Games, and then one is it David durhamin Ring?

Maybe she was on pnderson no idea what she was doing? This actually maybe checks out full circle.

And then a Hunger Games meme that says love is a battlefield.

And Devil wears Proud of Books and Candace Bushnell lipstick jungle.

Wow, jule I love that was in that?

Are you sure it wasn't Harry Winston Ring?

It says David it's a picture of Ring, and it says the happiest girls are the prettiest David Yeerman.

Oh my god.

And then I see the stuff you put for your wedding, and boy, whatever you choose, give me a lot of little lights.

Yes, yes, you do, love an.

We're gonna have junkle lights no matter where we are.

So you were going getting ruthless with the guest list. But then there are people that you were like, I think I really want them at the wedding.

Correct, So now we might move it into a ballroom. So that's kind of where we're at. Okay, just deciding on which one of the two do you have a date set? No, because the day comes after we said where oh.

Okay, So there's totally pressure to make the decision because there's no date that you're having to.

And then if we do it outside in la we have to wait for the weather to be good, which is really like April to September.

Hmmm, you just never know, you never know, No, you.

Don't it really, Sonny, Sonny in eighty this week and then it's gonna rain this weekend.

I think if you don't want to chance the weather, you just do inside. I think that'll be just like you can invite the amount of people you want.

Takes the stress off of having to worry about the weather. Right, your heels aren't going to dig into the grass, right you know?

Yeah, I got ya, I know. But then we're in a ballroom. It's like, you know, not as warm.

Okay, not as ethereal correct as ethereal.

Yeah, majestic, some may say, right, I feel like, you know the episode of.

Call Her You know, this episode of Call Her Daddy where Alex is like.

Sitting in the bathtub with the bottle of wine with like her veil, being like, ah, no.

Nobody remember, had an impact on me.

Clearly nobody else Anyways, That's what I feel like I can relate to at the moment.

Well, do you know in the Notebook when she sees that Noah rebuilt the house and then she's in the bathtub and she's turning the water on and off and she has the veil on with a goss of wine before she decides that she's going to go see him.

No, I don't remember this.

That's also a reference that had an impact on me. Yeah, a cultural moment. Oh, speaking of a cultural moment, when they broke up Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams.

Yeah, that was pretty gut wrenching.

But they seem to be doing great now.

Very happy for them.

But that was just a very impactful public relationship that ended. Yeah, like Brad and Jen justin Selena just they didn't affect me as much as you Apparently, I didn't have a venture's board of anybody.

So wow.

But do you know that there is a new duo coming to the iHeart podcast world and I want to talk about it when we come back.

From this break, right right, right, all right, we are back, And before we took the break, I was talking about a new podcast duo best besties A Blonde.

And a Blonde.

Yeah, she has like.

Kind of like me and you, literally me and you.

But they're from a show that started this here, podcast Scrubbing in Grey's Anatomy. Correct, And that is Camilla Luddington and Jessica Capshaw doing a podcast amongst us for.

iHeartRadio or iHeart Radio without a title, because we took the best one.

Honestly, I wonder if they'd want to buy it from us how much we could sell for a built in audience loyal.

Yeah, or maybe they could be under our umbrella. That would be the smart move to put them onto the Scrubbing In umbrella. Does nobody else think that's genius? Yeah?

I don't see anyone going for that aside from us.

But it's smart presents whatever.

Whatever it is.

Yeah, this is their podcast.

What is it?

I've not heard title. I think early summer something like that is going to start.

That's early summer soon, that's June.

Could be June, July, something like that.

Oh well, we're We've been desperately trying to get Jessica Capshaw on this podcast for years, years, and this might be our moment we did, might be our chance.

We did interview her at many moons ago. We interviewed her.

Yeah, you know, I was so obsessed with cal Arizona, and I think that may have been an eye opening moment looking back on my sexuality journey of like, oh wow, I think I'm not saying that like straight people can't love and root for relationship.

But I was like, I'm so invested.

Yeah, I was so invested devastated when they broke up. So that's very exciting.

We love Camilla, We love I do think that she had such a great experience scrubbing in that she was like, I need to have one of these.

I just think that every single person who.

Has a public platform is like, why would I not do a podcast? But also sure she came to our podcast and said, this is my dream come true to do a show with my best friend like Tanya and Becca do.

Yeah. Yeah, so I'm gonna do it under the scrubbing in umbrella.

We'll pitch it, we'll pitch it.

Why not.

I have no fear of getting rejected old.

No, No, it happens often often, and I'm unfazed.

She was back last week, Arizona Robbins back on Grays. I'm sure we've all watched and we're all caught up.

Actually, I was watching the middle of that and I had to go. But I was caught up till the middle of that episode, so I didn't finish it.

I'll take it.

Yeah, was it good?

I didn't finish that episode, so I can't say I just got to where Jessica or Arizona was talking about what she was there for.

Basically, that's pretty early on. I did say I made it far.

I caught up to that point.

Yeah.

Oh, and is it good?

Whole?

It's good, it's good.

I'm not super invested in anybody, and that's my issue right right right, But I don't feel like that's going to be permanent. I think I could be invested. You know what irks me a little bit about what Grey's Anatomy does.

What.

I don't know the doctor's names yet, the new doctor's names too have.

I call it little Shepherd, and I don't know what is actually a.

Little shepherd and the girl, but he has the back and forth relations.

She's the new Gray.

Yes, you Suda, I know you, Suda.

Yeah, we have you, Suda.

But little well, I'll call her little Gray and he's a little shepherd.

Little Gray is the one that he they slept together when she was about to go get married. Yes, okay.

And I hate that they drag out a back and forth for so long. They did it with Joe and.

They did it with Owen and Amelia.

I did have that thought watching this most recent episode when she was but she she was like, I don't want to see you anymore. Get out of my life. I'm like, you know, I guess we got to just go through this. Yeah, there's got to be conflict. But I hear you. I hear what you're saying. Yeah.

Anyway, it's the younger generation and we're watching them come up.

Question.

Yes, do we know what the podcast is going to be about? Is are they going to rewatch Grays like a rewatch podcast.

I don't know that either.

Oh my gosh, what are you good for him?

I to work on it. But we'll see.

Yeah, yeah, I know that's what I'm saying. I thought you would have some answer.

I don't have any, because that would be interesting if they rewatched from season one episode one.

Yes, interesting.

I would absolutely listen to that. Told the journey with them, yeah, from the beginning.

Would they be better doing that or should they get like some of the ogs to do that podcast?

Well, just get Capshaw's pretty o g.

No, she's season five though, so I mean she's not She's as og as as.

They can get.

I mean, Christina Yang's not doing it, not doing it, not doing it?

Hold lot doing? Is he super busy right now? We don't really know what podcast.

Yeah, we don't know why he ever left.

So when I could see doing it would be uh, George, George.

Could wait, I don't see him doing that George O'Malley.

Yeah, I could see George.

Do you love for him too? I just don't after.

Maybe Miranda Bailey. Yeah, anyways, I bet.

They'll have Ellen Pompeo as their first guest. I'm gonna make a guess to do. That's why they should be under That's what Joey the Bachelor and Kelsey, who he chose at the end just posted with Ellen Pompeo at this Hulu party?

Really yeah, why did we go to the Hulu party?

We don't get invited, Tanya, did you get invited?

I don't know.

I didn't, which is okay.

It's a younger generation speaking of I've made a decision to lean into being a millennial god because thank you, oh wow, thank you so much. You know, there's a lot of pressure when it comes to social media in general, but I have found that, especially being on TikTok, it's like leaning in towards what gen Z.

Likes, and so I've really tried to listen to that.

But I also, and I'm not saying I'm not going to do that, but I'm not going to try to be gen Zan to listen to what they have to say.

I want to hear what.

They're doing, what the young kids are doing, but I don't need to make that me.

Let me tell you something.

You're a You're a millennial to to the core, and I'm I don't know that I'm leaning in that much to my millennial as much as you lean into your millennial.

But I'm I'm leaning in more than I have been.

Let me tell you something, about it, Tilly, come over to the dark side, because it is so nice just to be who you are, just.

Be not I am who I am.

But I also think there's I think the people who are are aware of what younger people are doing and learning new things. I think that's how you stay younger mentally.

So so young mentally, couldn't be younger mentally. I've got the rich.

Trying to on our on our call that we do weekly for the podcast, Tanya is trying to say that she has RIZ.

You do not have RIZ, but it's very sweet that you think that you do. First of all, ooz, No, if you had RIZ, you wouldn't have needed half of our staff to be texting Robbie in the first when you first matched on Hinge.

Well no, so.

Just could do it themselves.

No, so, RIZ doesn't translate to online dating.

I don't mean to interrupt, but can you tell me your definition of risk?

The basic charisma? Charisma?

Okay, so, okay, just charisma is there.

I think it's a specific type of charisma. I think it's more like it's like a combination of charisma and game.

Yes, I have game, guys.

What do you mean you have game?

I have game, Tony.

This whole podcast, for like majority before you met Robbie was not about was about you not having games.

Which is the best game. That's the best game is not having game.

It's just me.

That's how Gamy. I am Gamey Gamy.

Okay, so you're now claiming that you have which which ultimately is you not having game.

Correct.

It's like the double bluff and Traders.

You know.

It reminds me of how when I ask you to explain something and you just repeat what you said without explaining to me.

What I think we all have on this show. No.

No, I that you have charm. I think you're charming and charismatic, yes, Riz, but I don't think you have game. No, And I don't think that's a negative.

By having Sierra text him for a week before you Actually.

No, so your game is bringing in others who have game, right, I mean, you know whatever it takes.

For lack of game, which is adjustment you've made.

It just depends on your perspective, truly.

See, I don't think Tanya with a little respect, I don't think Tany has game. But I just looked at the etymology of Riz. I didn't realize it comes from charisma, which I would say you have you're when people.

Okay, So the younger genera gen Z and younger I think riz is more, you have game.

It's it's more.

I don't think the younger kids like she's got charisma.

Right, do you think you have RIZ?

I think I can have RIZ.

You don't think you use it. I think you use it.

I don't like the word ooze personally, Riz and ooze together is too many.

Za's No.

I don't know Becca well enough in terms of like, I haven't been out in social events with you, out in the wild when you're single to know if you have RIZ or not. Yeah, Tanya, we know.

Let me tell you something to you can have RIZ inside a relationship.

See, I think you're you're you're customizing the definition of RIZ to fit your personality.

Yeah, I'm. And that's fine.

But we're talking about the generalization of the word and term RIZ, not what you have made.

RIZ in your life.

Yeah.

I like to do that very millennial. But you do have future step children who are alpha.

I think Jen Alfa jen alpha, and I need to know. I need you to ask them.

If I have Yes, they're gonna say yeah, no, they're not. I'll let you know.

Yeah, let me know, but I need video proof. I don't want to you're.

Gonna tell me you can get it.

Wow, I can't wait to see that cut up of Mark saying you do not have he.

Riz the episode were told she wasn't cool. I remember that episode.

I was reliving that too during that conversation, like the.

Best of episode for just a second. Thing.

Yeah, you know what, everybody has that delusional friend and Hi, it's me.

That's fine.

Problem it's me.

But you know this about yourself, which I think is your charm.

We were in the car yesterday with my daughter and her friend, who are gen z, and I'm the problem. It's me. Anti Hero came on the Taylor Swift channel on the radio and that was and they were just like, I don't like this song. It's just so god high on the problem. It's me. And then at the exact same time that they both said, God, it's just so millennial. And then they're like, laugh that they just said it

Yeah, I don't think it's because I'm so long.

It's so fun to watch the next generation become.

Lame and then gen Z is gonna be lame to jen Alpha. It's just part of life, yes, exactly. So that's why.

I'm like, I need I like being self aware of my millennialism, but also open to.

The possibility, attached the alcohol.

What gen Z is saying and talking about and listening and appreciating their input, engaging a little, but not attached to needing to be gen Z.

That's huge, that's huge. I'm so glad you're on the other side.

It's all see these girls.

I'll be scrolling TikTok and this girl's like, here are my skin tips and she's like twenty two with flaw like no pores, and I'm.

Like, okay, okay, I just need these products. And I'm like, this is not a product thing.

This is you.

Yeah literally, I know, and it'd be like that, Yeah that's the problem.

Yeah it is. But the main message that I'm trying to say here is be attached to the possibility.

I mean open to the possibility, not attached to the outcome.

Right, So thank you all. For listening to your ted talk.

Yes, I'm excited about it. I can't wait to see this new millennial.

I don't know if anything's going to change. It's more of an internal.

Oh the freedom I'm gonna feel from you, palpable.

We need to talk about Tanya's packed. Yes, and we have audio to play as well.

Okay, crazy is it her weird voice a little bit?

Yeah? I love the weird voice, Donya.

I mean it's higher.

Oh yeah, yeah, you have What what were you saying?

I'll tell you this is if anybody out there is looking for the one, this might be why you haven't found them.

Oh my gosh, what a teaser. We'll be right back. All right, we're back. You were very excited to share something.

So you were talking about this marriage pact from Blake Blake from The Bachelor what's his last name?

Moins?

Who was talking about this and our pitch.

Meeting or like in our meeting that we have with Sam every week?

Who oh oh.

Yeah, we talked about it.

Yeah, Blake and Natalie from Love is Blind Yeah, Blake from the Bachelor, Natalie from Love is blinde.

Yeah, but I don't know his last name?

Yeah?

Yeah, So Blake Moins from The.

Bachelor and Natalie Lee from Love Is Blind have a marriage packed. Basically, if they're not married by whatever age, then they will get married. Okay, and I too made one of those when I was younger. How old I think I was twenty three at the time, twenty three, twenty four, okay, maybe twenty five. And I made it with this guy named Andy, who was our engineer at the time on the Morning show. If we weren't married by the age of forty, we would Mary.

I think he was younger than that. But let's listen back, shall we. Yeah, November one, twenty nineteen, this is when we called Andy about it. But here Ryan sets up the premise.

We have a packed, So you have a pack that if you're not with somebody or married in how many years by.

The time I'm thirty three, so I have, so you have for about six years.

Well, here's the thing. I think Andy is attractive.

Andy, come here for a second. Thank you.

He is a good looking guy, and you think he's smart.

I think he's attractive and smart, and I do think he's nice. Yeah, but we work together.

So that's.

Sorry. So that was the original. That was the original talk of the pact and I don't have a date on that.

That's fine.

So that was a pack that I made when I was doing calling. In the one my workbook, it basically one of the whole chapters was about going through these packs that you made and dissolving them because they're basically telling the universe I'm good, I don't need your I don't need you anymore because I'm good, I made a pact. I'm going to get married to this person if I'm not married by thirty three.

That was June fifteen, So.

You're sending out these signals that you don't need that in your life. I called Andy, this guy who meanwhile in this very moment has like a girlfriend that he's had a serious girlfriend for like how many years?

He's married now he's married now.

Yeah, so he's not thinking about the pact. But I had to call him to dissolve our marriage pact.

This was November one, twenty nineteen, And let me get Andy online. Andy, how are you?

Yeah?

I got it?

So Andy.

I'm working through this workbook and it's basically how to call in the love of my life. And I one of the practices was if you've made any sort of agreements in your past marriage agreements that you need to really phone in on why you made that agreement and then call that person to dissolve the agreement. So I wrote it down. Okay, I made a marriage packed with my coworker Andy. I made this pack from a place of doubt and fear. This is not the marriage that

So are you breaking up with them?

Okay?

So that was November one, twenty nineteen. And when did I meet Robbie Yadegar?

Oh?

November fifth, twenty nineteen.

Wow, oh wow. I don't think you would have met him if you hadn't dissolved it.

I don't think so either, Yeah, because that would have been in the universe and I didn't need to meet him.

Yeah, I blocked it. Well that's of power.

Yeah. So, Blake Moins and Natalie Lee, if you're listening.

Should we call them?

Should?

I want you to know that the marriage Packed might not be.

The best move if they're looking, if they're really for the one for the one.

Yeah, No, it's really interesting.

You've had people message you and say they did the workbook and then they met their person.

Correct.

I've seen no negative in this journey.

I'm with you.

If people are willing to do the.

Work and dissolve the packs and read and do homework, I see no issue with it.

Yeah, do you spend that timing to be crazy? November first? I called off my uh.

I also think though, that you believe in the invisible string theory, which means that you and Robbie would have connected either way. So these are conflicting thoughts that I need you to pick aside. Were you all invisible string or was Did you call him in because you've dissolved your pack?

You can't. It's like you never know, you can't know.

Yeah, but they don't align, you know. I've stumped her, y'all. She's petting the desk, she's wiping away an invisible surface.

So have you ever talked.

To Andy since that? No, he's like, hey, yeah again.

I think he's like, I'm happily married, please lose my number.

Yeah, just like straight up.

Oh, jeez.

Yeah, he's like, I haven't thought about that in fifteen years.

But it's fine. So anyways, all right, marriage packs don't make them.

And great work book.

Great work book.

Although I found out recently that the one who wrote that book is divorced.

It happens like that sometimes.

Really, there was a guy who like started all the gay conversion therapies, like he was super religious, and you know which started these camps or kids would go and they would like basically.

Beat the gay out of them. I don't know, Oh my gosh, this is a real thing. People go to conversion therapy. It's real.

But he was one of the ones that started it, and now he is married to a man.

Well that's how it always happens, these people, these politicians. The more anti gay they are, the more gay they tend to become.

I've gone to the point where if someone says something homophobic, if they take the time to say something homophobic online, I just assume that they're battling their own.

Issues, because why do you care?

Like I think I I cared very heavily about that because I think maybe deep down I was like maybe I'm you know.

Really you cared heavily about it, and your head was like super Christian religious.

I grew up with like that's bad, don't do that. So I think I projected a lot. And now when I see other people do it, I go, maybe they're struggling with their own sexuality anyways, that but yeah, yeah, so anyways, was there anything else?

Are we done? I have like more to.

Talk about, but are we We're not done?

When you talk about no, I was going to talk about.

Well, Rebel Wilson had a she released her.

Memoir memoir memoir, Rebel Rising.

Yeah it was really correctly by the way Becca memoir, Yeah.

Oh I really. Yeah's always told me I say it wrong? Was that you? Anyway? Rebel Rising?

And she revealed that she lost her virginity at thirty five, which in our society today is like ancient.

Yeah, you know.

And I was talking about this on our call. I was saying that when I was on the Bachelor, it really struggled because I was on the Bachelor with Caitlin Bristow and she was very like open and comfortable with her sexuality in terms of being very sexual and you know, comfortable with that and especially as the bachelorette. And I remember that I would get a lot of negativity. For I would get a lot of positivity about being a virgin, but I got a lot of negativity about it too.

Crazy to me that people get so much hate for being a virgin, Like I don't understand where that comes from.

Like the same concept though, like it's your body, so you get to choose what you do with your body.

And I think the problem is I think our society is so gong ho on the other way, like in terms of pushing the just.

Have sex, have fun, you're young, be free, do what you want. Yeah, live it up. And I'm like, not everybody's like that.

Yeah, I was gonna say say not everyone can have casual sex, and there are people who can and they're just like, it's my body and I celebrate it and I want to enjoy it with somebody else, right, But there's also people.

That it can cause a lot of pain, pain, and like there's a lot of emotional connection to it.

Yeah, So I think it's I think that if I could encourage people, it's that if you are still a virgin and you feel like you're behind in terms of being comfortable sharing that or feeling confident in yourself, there's no time limit for.

What part of your body you share with somebody.

Else, or if you're not a virgin, Like I lost my virginity at nineteen and I was having like after I broke up with this one boyfriend of mine, I was like having unattached sex, and I felt so bad about myself, Like I hated that period. And I did it because everybody told me just do it, say you get over him, get under other people.

And I was like, that's not me.

And so that's when I decided. I was like, I'm not having unattached sex anymore. I want to have sex inside of a committed a relationship. And I waited for many, many years, and like that, I think is so important to recognize what's important to you, what feels right to you, and you know, it doesn't matter what other people are doing.

I think it's just a very celebrated thing of like, do what you want, there's no consequences, it's your body. But I also think on the flip side there, it's okay to do it how you want to, regardless of what that looks like. So I thought that was very insightful and I'm glad you shared that because I think that people reading that will feel.

A lot better about or it feels interesting.

I think maybe people who are going through that and maybe they're in their mid thirties and they're feeling behind or whatever. Seeing someone who's in the public eye and who's celebrity saying that that was her experience too, I think is really encouraging.

I think so too. And you don't hear it often. You don't so Rebel Wilson. Everybody can pick up that memoir.

Rebel Rising wherever you get your books.

Do we have time for an email or are we pushing it? We're pushing it, all right, Dona pushing it. We do have a Thursday episode this week. We're talking to Alexia Umansky.

Yes, you may know her from buying Beverly Hills, the show on Netflix. She is the daughter of Kyle Richards and Mauricio Umanski, so we all know that that's been in the headlines a lot lately. So we will be chatting with her this Thursday, and we can't wait.

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