Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya Ren and I Heart Radio Podcast. Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in. In today's episode, we have a very special guests, our first in studio guests. I was like, I'm coming in. It's so much better and I am obsessed with you. This is the voice of Tracy Tutor. Everybody that is listening
and doesn't know. Um, I'm like coming off of this high from Rihanna's super Bowl performance because I just feel like she showed us, she showed us that you can really do it all and have it all at the same time. And I feel like you're the perfect guest to have this week because I feel the same energy from you. I feel like you are such a badass in the workspace. I feel like you're constantly reinventing yourself
in different ways. You are an author, you are like crushing it in your career, you have a relationship, you're a mom, You're doing all these things and you're doing it so well. And so I'm really excited to have Tracy Tutor on with us because you're just all thing this modern woman energy. Thank you. I'm so excited to be here. I haven't seen you in a long time, and it's so nice to meet you. I know, we well we were talking about this before you came in.
You were um helping hand for Tanya while she was going through what we call the trigger of it and her breakup UM, and I remember there was she was just like she took me under her wing. There was like a like a sisterhood bond there of you just like totally helping her navigate it. Well, I remember when you came over to my house and we were having like a glass of wine in the backyard with Haley
and like a couple of other friends. And obviously I had gone through the divorce and I was at that time probably three years out of it, out of it. I was like finally like on my two feet again. I had been dating, and I was like, girl, you got this, you can like you need to be out there. And then apparently you got set up. So two of your friends that were outso at your house that night. Yes, we know this guy. He's really great. He doesn't live here,
but we want him to move da dada. So they were like showed me his Instagram and I was like, okay, cute. So we started like dm ng on Instagram and this guy we ended up scheduling like a Zoom day because it was I think still kind of quarantine e at times. But also he didn't live in l A. So it was like a zoom day, Like we were like going to have a drink on zoom together. Oh those were the days. Then this was like my only date that
I went on when I was single. But it was so funny because he basically spent the entire I think we talked about an hour and a half. He talked about his hex girlfriend and like kind of why he was single and what happened in his relationship, and then I was talking about Robbie and my breakup and what all went down there. So we basically spent the entire date talking about our exes. It's great cut to cut to a year and a half later. I still follow
him on Instagram. He got back together with that girl. They're engaged, Oh my god, and like fully so happy and he we both message each other now, like and when I remember when when Robbie I got back to he was like, oh my gosh, I'm so glad you got back together with your guy. You guys look so happy, And I was like, how funny that we both ended up back with our you know, like that that telltale sign of like the first date, when you spend the
entire first date talking about your axes. It's not really a strong indicator that you guys are very each other. No, we were not for each other, but I just want it to be such a funny, funny and I still found like, at what point do I unfollow this guy? Like, yeah, I don't know if you're going to run into some date. It's not like you had like no no connectionever. Yeah
that's okay. Yeah, but I do feel like this this connection to you because I really do feel like I was going through really tough time and I really felt like you extended your hand and we were total strangers and you were so lovely and kind and wonderful, and so I just love you came into my house and your energy was very similar even though you were going
through a totally difficult time. I don't know, I just feel like that sisterhood of when you're going through a breakup, Like the most important thing is that your friends and girls rally behind in jail. I feel like that's the way I got through my divorce. I can't even fathom not having my girlfriends and my gaze, you know, around me during that time because and so I always whenever I know a girlfriend of mine or someone's going through something like that, I'm like, do we need to go
have a glass of wine? Where are we having lunch? Sunday morning? We're going for a walk. Let's get out of it now. Yeah. I wanted to talk to you about this because I had listened to an interview I think it was on a UM like Serious XIM. I don't know if it's a podcast or radio show, but this was I think in October of last year. But you're talking about your divorce and UM on Monday's episode last week. We were talking about how men get so comfortable or get such an ego that they're with these
incredible women and they feel comfortable enough to cheat. UM. And I didn't know if you were comfortable talking about it, but I was listening to how Jeff lewis yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And and Jeff's a friend of mine, and we had had drinks and before and we were chatting, and of course it came up and he was like,
would you be okay talking about it? I go you know what, I've never really spoken about it before, and I finally feel like I'm on the other side of it where I can like impart some wisdom and not just like vicious hate because I went through all those spaces, you know, so um, yeah, I'm comfortable talking about it.
So yeah, we were. We were just talking about the fact that there's men and I don't know anything about your ex, but knowing that, knowing just what I know about you and the boss that you are, You're successful, you're studying, like you have what your a ten out of ten? And I don't know your ex, but the fact that he even felt comfortable enough to cheat in front of people, knowing that there was a chance that could get back to you. What is it? Is it? Ego?
What is that? Like? What do you gather from that? You know? I mean, I think, listen, we had been together for by the time we got divorced, seventeen and a half years and a lot of growth to kids, a career, a TV show, him, you know, him changing careers as well as like, I think there's a part of us that grew apart, you know, probably five years prior to that happening, and you know, you push through and you're committed to the marriage and and that's something
that you sort of stick with it. But at the same time, I wasn't acknowledging neither was he, that we were both just in this lull. And the lull eventually turned into you know, him wanting connection and really you know, approval from other women. And it started with you know, sometimes conversations with women and I'd be like, why are you talking to that person? And a lot but like
no physical connection. Um. But he he really required that like constant approval, and I wasn't giving it to him anymore. I was, you know, I was sort of one foot out and so that's you know, the affair happened. I don't blame myself for it. I think, you know, initially Lee, he kind of did you know that was that's always the excuse. Well you wouldn't, you know, you weren't giving me what I needed, so I went elsewhere, which is such a cop out. Um. You know, there's a little
ego involved as well. I think being successful and being financially completely free from him, I didn't rely on him for anything, so I was able to make my own decisions. I think that made him feel less and less in control, which traditionally in relationships, you know, it's the other way around. I mean it's callused bad spade, wage gap, whatever it is. More often than not, the man can make more money and be more successful or maybe further along in their career.
And in this case, it was the flip, which I think was you know a little bit. It's it's a shock to the ego and it's something that I have dealt with even post marriage, you know, dating. I feel like that's an interesting it isn't interesting dynamic because I do think as much as again we hate it and we want to say that it doesn't it's not an affecting actor. It really is. Oh absolutely, Like I had dated a few different guys before being in the current relationship you know that I was in and I was
finding kind of the same problem. And I think what I found in my relationship now with Eric is it was something younger and freer about you know, he grew up in a different generation, so you know, someone in their late twenties or early thirties, which tended to be the direction that my dating life was going at the time. I started to realize, like, why is that happening, Like
why are younger men more attractive? And one might say, oh, because she has money, or you know, he's uh, you know that type of guy or whatever, And and the fact of the matter was, even the younger guys that I had been dating prior to Eric, we're successful, you know, early thirties, you know, made plenty of money. But there's something different about the men of his generation and the men that are of my generation. It's a lot, a
lot tougher pale for them to swallow. And even Eric, I think, from time to time struggles with it, you know, like he's a co star or a guest appearance, right, Like it's not it doesn't always feel equal, and I've had to really examine that and not tow myself down. But in a way also sort of contribute to them feeling.
The men in my life feeling, you know, like they add value in many ways, like you have to kind of overcompensate, which is not something a man is used to doing, but as a successful woman in business, like I feel like that's something that I do still to this day. It's so you're it's so crazy to me because I also feel like you're in you are in like a male dominated working world. Were you always this
confident in your working world as you are now? I mean, listen, I felt on my face so many times, and I think I learned to be confident by virtue of just continuing to get up and keep going. Um. I think that that fear that we all have is we're scared of the Yeah, on Amazon, we'll talk about the book, No, but I think that that's such a big part of it that we're you know, so terrified of, like the falling down piece that we can't get out of our
own way. And I think what makes a woman confident is how many times she's fallen down, gotten back up and become successful again. So you know, obviously I'm forty seven. Um,
I didn't learn it overnight. Um. But that's kind of why I wrote the book, because I wanted I wanted to speak to actually younger women about that path, because I think so many women come out of college and you know, you know, we all grew up with this traditional ideology that like maybe you meet the love of your life in college and you'll you know, have the white picket fence and like a beautiful little traditional house with two kids in private school and then maybe you'll
retire and be a stay at home mom and all these things, which is a beautiful thing, but it's not the only way, right And and you know, I think breaking away from those patterns and and young like twenty something women having a woman to look up to that's maybe twenty years their senior, but they actually relate to
um is something I didn't have. I feel like, so the book she's talking about, it's called Fears, just a four letter word, and I feel like your book, to me, it felt like some like you were writing to your younger self something that you wish you would have known prior. And I think to me, those types of books are so valuable because we all, especially as women, like we learn from each other, you know, like we've all gone
through different things. And if you can just learn one thing from somebody else, you can teach somebody so they don't make the same mistake or maybe don't go or don't feel as alone going through these certain things. It's such a blessing. So if you do want to get her book, you can get an Amazon or anywhere a major book retailer. Yeah. Fellow author over here, Yeah. Gratulations on that, but so happy for you. Writing a book
is wild. It's a it's a I had no idea what I was up agains, you know, like I, first of all not a great writer, and I was like, we're gonna have to do this like my way. It's going to be a little bit more conversational than you know, my daughter writes something and I'm like, wow, you're talented, you know, but I you know, I was a theater major for crying out loud. So but it turned out for the best because I think it's totally my voice and and you know, it obviously spoke to like a
younger generation of women. And and that's the thing right now, is I feel like on social media and like that's why I love what you guys do and your show, and how like supportive of women you are and how light and bright and positive you are, because so much of what we're talking about, half the haters and half the people that keep us down or other women, it's not it's not just men like like that that the ideologies I was talking about earlier, and these traditions and
the way we're supposed to do it. You know, there's a lot of women that are still sort of stuck in that you know, mindset, and I feel like it just makes me want to Like the more hate I get or the more you should wear this or you should wear that, the more I want to wear it because I'm like, I'm going to continue to do this until you realize that I can be a boss in real estate, I can be on a TV show, I can be sexy. I can also be a mom, you know, like why do we have to be defined? And why
do women not want to elevate? Like it's it's beyond me. I sometimes get in these dm like back and force with women, like like you've got to really consider, like why you're coming from this place, like your own insecurity issues clearly to me Sometimes like when I get a negative methode or comment from a man, I'm literally unbothered by it, But when it comes from another woman, I'm like, wait, a sect totally, we're not supposed to do this to
each other, Like we're not supposed to. And also like because you're right now for a million dollar listening l A, you're like the girl you're holding it down, and I just think it's so like I don't know, just to me, I look at you, and I just I'm so inspired and motivated by you, and so I feel like it makes me sad that you get attacked for certain things. Well, I it's almost like and I used to take it a lot more seriously. The only time I get actually upset by it is when it has anything to do
with my kids. But candidly, I need to do it more like it makes me like people are like, oh, you know, we're dressed appropriately or stop getting plastic surgery or whatever the hell people want to say. And when it comes from a woman, I just want to like be even more authentic online and tell people what I've done and say and you know, yeah I do. I work out. I worked out hour and forty five minutes this morning. I didn't have surgery to get the body
that I have, right, Like, I'm forty seven. I worked really, really hard. I'm not as It just makes me want to be more transparent and work my ass off at the same time so that I can sort of dispel more of this idea that we have to be like men or conservative to be successful in business. It's just nonsense. You know you have two daughters, right do I have a seventeen year old Juliette and a fourteen year old named Scarlett. What is it like parenting two girls with
the TikTok world? And like, what's it's so different than it was even for us, like when we were in high school. I mean, both my girls are on social media, of course, but I don't so much have a problem with the TikTok. It's the snapchat that I'm like, well, what's happening on Snapchat? Like they send the snaps and then they go away where the TikTok lives. You know, they're pretty transparent on social media. They don't post a ton.
They're like of that younger generation. They're like Instagram's like done, you know, they're like the slame you know, but um, they scroll. I just I try to get them to be both busy. So I think when they're busy, they're on it less and they're more engaging. Um, you know. I just feel like social media really screws with our
ability to like connect with people. And so luckily, I think because I've they have busy schedules that when they sit down in their room and they don't come out for three hours, and I'm like, what's going on in there? Like I know, like being a teenager, you want to be in your bed a lot, but like if it makes you feel any better, I can sit on my
phone on TikTok and scroll for three hours. Are still developing, you know, like they're not five yet, that full frontal lobe situation and men too, like Eric's twenty eight and I'm like this, this whole social media thing is really going to screw you up, Like you just finished this
is this could be bad. It is true though, like between social media and then also with the pandemic, it was like we kind of lost ability like how to connect with people face to face of like how to have conversations, how to ask questions about someone else and learn about people's interests. We kind of just like we're relying on the screen to occupy that space. Luckily, I they I've seen a lot worse. And like I said, like my daughter, my little one, she rides horses all
the time. Like if she could quit school and just ride full time, she would, but because she's so engaged in that, it kind of keeps her away from it, and she's like doing I think there's a balance, you know, it's like you can't take it fully away, they exist in it. I have family friends and parents that are like, I'm not going to let my kid on it, and that you know they're eventually going there no matter what. And so it's just about finding a balance, I think.
And you'd rather than feel comfortable to be able to use it and be open with you than hundred speaking it around if you take it away. Yeah, And they're kind of at the age where at this point all the kids are on it, but um, they have some pretty decent boundaries around. It's so cool to have like you as a mom, because I feel like, do you instill the way that you treat your life in your
career in the in them as well? A you know, in the last couple of years, I think post COVID working from home as much as I was during that and I was promoting the book at that time and doing a lot of Zoom interviews, and the kids were home and so they were seeing you work a lot more, and I think kind of grew a little bit of a better understanding of what I do and what and how hard I work, and in turn like had a lot more respect for me, I think as like a
working mom, And so they get I mean, my older one gets uber defense in defense of me, like on social media, should be like you don't know what you're but she says it like with the most eloquent voice that like the trolls are like gone, They're like, we're so sorry Julia because she's just you know, she has the ability. But you know, I was really strict with them when they were young. Um. You know, I taught them right from wrong. I taught them manners. They look
people in the eye when they speak to them. Um. And now they've just developed into these like little mini feminists, but like the right kind of feminists, you know, not like the judge feminists. Um. And so it's great. They're like flourished ng And I mean, I'm like, they make me so proud. I can't even stand it. I know that Jeff Lewis interview, you talked about the relationship between you and I guess their step mom. Now, Oh oh yes, um,
my ex husband's new wife, Amanda. So yeah, we've had, you know, a roller coaster of a time, um, getting to like where we are today. But the amazing thing about it is I looked at her a couple of weekends ago, or actually I guess it was. That was a couple of weeks end of January. We had dinner and I go, you know, it's so crazy, Like in another life, I think we would have been like friends
outside of this. Like now we are and we're in this sort of scenario together where she's married to my ex husband is really good to my girls, and you know, we've wrapped our head around that and we're like in a really mature, like healthy, good place, um, which I think is like the greatest story to tell, which I had to explain to my ex husband because he sat me down after the Jeff Lewis thing, so he's gonna be like, you did it again, you know, But but the truth is, I was like, you know, I'm less
worried about talking about what happened in our marriage and that you know, there was cheating or whatever. What I like talking about is that we recovered from it. I like talking about the fact and I'm proud of the fact that I'm friends with his new wife and that I've gotten to a place as like a parent, that I have recovered from all of that and we've come a long way as like, you know, this very different
kind of family. You should be proud of that. There's not a lot of people that could do that, and I now that I've sort of have that, I wish that, you know, I want to talk about it primarily because I think you can get to that place and it's such a healthier lace to be. Yeah, you should be proud of it. Actually, I don't know if you saw the Miranda kur and Katie Perry stuff that happened a couple of weeks ago. Miranda kurt was getting some award.
I think it was like some I don't know what it was, as like Australian award, and um, Katy Perry is the one who like gave it to her and was like speaking about her and gave her the award, and Miranda Kurr was talking about how like she couldn't have picked a better step mom for her kid, and I was like, that is such a beautiful example of like two women that know themselves and are mature and
can fantastic. Yeah, like it makes me emotional, you know, like it's like because not everybody has it that way, and so I think that's something that you should be really proud about and talk about. And it goes you know, it goes back to what we were talking about earlier, is like this idea that like we can either be like this incredible tribe and figure each other out and be supportive of each other, or we can be our greatest enemy and we can be very defeatist about it.
And I just feel like by virtue of getting through that and coming on the other side of it, I'm like happy to talk about. And then it landed with Chason and he is like, okay, yeah, He's like, well not, you know, don't talk about it that much. And I'm like, but the bottom line is I am proud of it.
And I was damning her, you know, this weekend about just dogs or something, and you know, we chat all the time, and the more I get to know her, the more I realize why he fell in love with her and why they're together, and had it not happened, all of this crazy, you know, I I wouldn't be as happy as I am today. I probably would still
be in the marriage. You know. Yeah, well I was gonna yeah that was That was My biggest takeaway from the interview was the fact that y'all have come full circle to a point where you were saying I'm able to go to dinner with her and she is wonderful for my girls. And I was like, wow, that takes. I mean, that takes. And obviously the bad stuff is part of the journey that leads you to that point,
as part of the story and what you tell. But it's such a beautiful like ending for for you to have percent Like I like, it's like a you know, a way. It's been lifted off my chest, you know where for five years, and it took me that long, you know, to get to get to the other side of it. And I'm glad I never spoke about it, not once and never never, never, and the kids obviously know. So it's we're at a different place now and it's I think, a healthy and good thing to talk about.
And it's actually positive. Yeah, I think sometimes having those hard conversations with kids, like sometimes I feel like our parents try to protect us from anything bad and sometimes you like I get older and I'm like, wait, what actually happened there? Right? Do I have all the information about because I mean the way we all grew up and you guys are obviously younger than me, but even your generation, they didn't talk about their problems in their marriage.
You know, you really hit on something because I deal with it in therapy all the time. It's like this this this reality that we all had or these expectations we had for our lives, um and life isn't perfect, you know, like things happen in a different way than
you expected. And I think that we can internalize those things and get and get really down on ourselves, like you know, when I started doing my boyfriend has two kids, and you know, it's a it's crazy thing to step into, you know what I mean, Like you don't know how to handle it. You don't know what you're getting yourself into, and your real reality is different than you thought it would be. It's amazing in so many ways, but it's
also challenging in certain ways. And so I think that, you know, you can get really hard on yourself because it's like this isn't the way you know, I dreamed of it to be, but this is my story totally. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard to kind of shake that because it's been ingrained in us for so many years that you just feel like a failure if you if if you're anything
other than what that that path. Yeah, I think a lot of people that listen to this podcast, there are They are independent women, They are fierce, they want to Maybe some people are wanting to start their own companies, but like don't know how if you like just because you have, I feel like learned so much, and you've been in such a crazy career path. Um, what's something that you've learned that you wish you would have known
ten years ago? Professionally, embrace your feminine energy. UM. I remember when I was first starting off in real estate and I was working really hard, and it was a few it was a rough five years just trying to like find my my feet in a new industry. UM. And I remember being competitive with men um, going out for listing appointments or pitches or whatever. Um, even in
negotiations against an agent on another deal. UM. And I would find myself being like in my masculine body, you know, like I've got to be like super tough, like show zero vulnerability. UM. And I think what I learned now is that showing those vulnerabilities, embracing sort of my feminine energy, which actually is like change for me probably in the
last few years. I think it's catapulted, like my relationships, um, my, my business relationships and personal relationships, and I would like take away that idea that, particularly in the corporate world, that you have to be like demand, if anything, be the opposite, be vulnerable, be accessible, um be feminine because you can be as strong in your feminine body as you can be sort of trying to play at their level.
That's interesting because I think there's um a perspective that's like being vulnerable and embracing your feminine energy is like a sign of weakness, you know, like people assume that that means you're weak. But I think people underestimate the power and vulnerability and being you're like feminine energy and
like the power you have using that. It's not a weakness at all, but it's perceived that way sometimes, Like if you're not acting tough like one of the guys, then you're weak or your lesson, you know, as opposed
to being like using it to your advantage. Well, it's all about connection, right, you know, in business, So if you walk into a room and your walls are up and you have zero vulnerability, then you have zero ability to connect with the person that's sitting across from you, even like talking about what we're talking about today, like I have to like remind myself it's okay to be vulnerable. It's okay to talk about you know, your divorce or
you know what happened in your marriage, etcetera. Um, because people relate to that. And the more you put yourself out there and and you know you wouldn't necessarily do that interview, I'm not. I'm not telling you guys to do but but but being I think vulnerable allows you the ability to connect with people. And that's ultimately why we hire who we hire. It's not resume only takes you so far. It's it's when you're in the room
with somebody is what gets you ultimately the job. And so um, that would be the advice that I would give to like young women starting out or even women that are getting back into the workforce. Yeah, I love that. That's really good advice. I think a lot of people feel like they're just competing with the like in male dominated spaces that they have to do, and it's okay to feel those things. It's okay to feel like I blew it, and like live in that moment and live
in that space. But also don't pretend that it wasn't a failure. Oh it's fine. I don't know. I just didn't get a good night's sleep. It wasn't a good interview, or wasn't a great pitch. I just was off. It was okay, I'm sure it'll be fine, or I didn't
really want it. Then why do you go in on it? Right? So, like we kind of tell ourselves these lies that we can like put shout the failure, when in fact, if we were just embracing the fact that it went because we didn't show up like as ourselves a prepared, be ready to connect and be vulnerable and you know, see walk into the room and look people in the eye
and and be confident what you're talking about. Um, if you can't have all those things aligned, then you weren't ready to walk in the door in the first place. M wow, you know, preparation. How do you balance it all? I don't really I'm tired a lot. Really, Um, I get up really early. I really try to, Like I'm good in the mornings by like six seven o'clock. I am tapped out. Um yeah, yeah, yeah about it, like three.
But like I'm my most creative, my my best energy, my best ideas all come in the morning and and so for me, that's like waking up and spending some time with myself, exercising, doing me you know, before like entering like you know, right around seven thirty, I'm like, I'm working. So I'm up at typically five thirty, UM and in the gym by six sep at what time last night? Didn't go to bed until like eleven thirty.
I was watching you. Really it's sucked into that tragic stuff. Um. But typically I'm in bed by like eight thirty, nine o'clock. Like my kids are like, good night, Bob, and they're like up doing homework until ten thirty eleven, and I'm like, I'm like lights out by ten. Typically I did see So you're right now you're on You're on Million Dollar Listening l A, which is on Bravo, which we love, and I love that you are holding it down. Also, I love Heather Altman. Yes, she's great, so great. So
I just I love that show. Everybody should stream it, watch it, support Tracy. Um. But I think I saw a rumor that they're recording you for the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Is that a rumor? I got true? It's not a rumor. Um. I wouldn't say, they wouldn't say they were according me, but I was when I did watch What Happens that fans have sort of yeah, and fans have mentioned this for a bit and it was asked and then Andy kind of looked at me
and said, would you ever do that? And I just looked at miss had a hundred percent and he was like floored, and it like started a whole thing about she shot a hundred percent to it and has become like a thing. Yeah, got it. So I love that show. I think those I think it's fantastic and fun to watch and you know, like I mean, I am a Bravo holic, like I watch all these shows. So for me,
it's like a fun escape. And um, it's interesting because I feel like, to me, your show, you embody just like this powerful modern woman that's doing anything that housewives need a little bit more. And I feel like the housewives are the opposite. Like I feel like the housewives are very catty and fight with each other, and like there's that sense of of kind of where women were
ten twenty years ago, you know what I mean. And so I don't I don't see you in that, but well, and a lot of people have said that too, like, you know, it's it's not your lane really, like you're above that or whatever. I'm not above anything. I'm about
getting paid, okay. But what I think is cool is that energy on that show is very much one note and it can be catty, and it can be all those things, but it's also super entertaining, and it'd be nice to have some energy in there with someone that's running a business, that actually lives in Beverly Hills and you know, can also hold around and not be bullied by, you know, someone else on the show that maybe has a louder or bigger voice or is obviously more comfortable
in front of the camera. I'm friends with a few of the girls. I mean, Crystal is a good friend. I love Garcella as well. I know Kyle Um. I've meant to read eat Um. That's all I'll say. Well, the other two I've never met, Erica or Lisa, Well, I do feel like you being on TV, there's not that need, like there wouldn't be that need to prove yourself with someone because you're kind of like established for viewers, like people already know you were on the Housewives. I'd
watch it too. I don't watch, but I would watch it because, Yeah, we're gonna class it up. I love that so much. Well, where can people follow you and keep in touch with what you're doing and watch you and learn all about you? Um? I'm on all social media channels, although I'm probably most present on Instagrams. You can find me at Tracy tudor UM. My website for any real estate inquiries is Tracy Tutor dot com. And then of course the book UM anywhere we mentioned earlier,
and then it's just a four letter word. And then I also have a wine called Unsweet which is a vegan, zero sugar um wine, and we have that's available online and we're gonna be coming a store soon. Oh that's very set. And that's unsweet Wine dot com. Unsweet wine dot com and Million Dollar Listening l A And every Thursday night at nine eight Central you can watch a Million Dollar Listening Los Angeles. Perfect. We're about to enter like the last few episodes, so it's kind of crazy Vegas.
It's oh yeah, oh yeah, what did you want a Vegas for? We had a big listing opportunity there, so we went for like three days and it just turned into a show. The producers are like, they were like this, they knew what they're doing. Yeah, well, thanks for being our first guys. I'm so glad I came in. Everybody by purchased the wine by the book follow follow Oh we love Tracy and we just love you so much. I love you too. M
