Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya ren An iHeartRadio podcast.
Hello everybody, we are scrubbing.
In, scrubbing in, and I gotta say that I feel honored to just live in the same time period as Taylor Swift.
Yeah.
We always That's a consistent feeling I have, Like she is unparalleled.
I don't care what anybody says. She's in a league of her own, beyond beyond beyond a league of her own.
Yeah.
Yeah, So we're going to get into that a little bit later on our Hot topics.
Yeah, are hot takes on Hot Hot bakes on Hot Topics.
Yeah.
It's funny because I feel like Haley and I have this conversation often and I'm like, you were on stage and performed with Taylor Swift twice. Yeah, like the biggest artists that will we will probably have in margin.
Parted with Taylor Swift after the grand I didn't do that.
Yeah, yeah, but like performing on a stage of that size that she's on, true, and he was like, I just every time sometimes a clip will pop up from that tour, the Reputation tour where Haley performed. It will pop up on TikTok and I'm like, babe, She's like, I cannot I can't believe that's real.
Yeah, it's pretty wild.
Yeah, it was really fun watching all the Should we get right into.
That, I mean, I feel like we shoud discuss our weekends a lot. I really want to talk to you about your Instagram posts because it really created quit.
I might just I don't know if I can get through that without crying. But we can attempt.
Okay, let's attempt. So do you want it for people that did not see your Instagram story?
Do you want to? Yeah, I'll just tell the story.
So I think I've I mean, for I grew up very Christian, Like, I grew up in a very Christian culture.
I grew up in the South.
I went to church like Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday, growing up, like it was very much a part of my life. And then once I was into high school, it was more like my decision of like going to youth group and I went to a Christian school. Like my whole life was based in religion, and I think even when I moved out to California, it was kind of the same thing.
And then like over the I want.
To say, there was a shift when my sisters came out to me because I was like, Okay, everything I've always thought about, like homosexuality and same SEXU relationships, like, all of a sudden, I had a shift where I was like, this doesn't fit me anymore, right, because now it's like people that are like my everything are affected by this mentality. So I kind of started there where I was like not questioning my faith, but just kind of like the church and the like the religious aspect
of it all. And so then when Haley and I started dating, I remember like one of the first times we hung out, I was like, yeah, so, like what do you believe? And she was like, yeah, I didn't. I didn't really grow up with like a religion. I didn't like practice a religion. I just you know, kind of just believed in the good of people, but never had anything specific that I believed in. And I was just like shocked, Like in my mind, I was like, how how do you live life? Not like I just
it was so far from where I came from. And so our whole relationship, you know, that's always been a thing where she knew that that was so important to me, like my relationship with God and she asked questions about it. She's never been disrespectful at all about my faith or my beliefs, And I've always respected the fact that she didn't grow up like that or didn't have that background.
And I also get why she wanted want to have association with the church in terms of like how they've treated gay people, and like her knowing she was, like knowing that she was gay her whole life and like knowing that that was the stigma around it. I get it, Like I get why there's never been like an interest
in that. But anyway, he's always been super respectful, and I've navigated the challenges of like, you know, hard conversations I've had with friends and family who are Christian that have been probably the cruelest, hardest conversations that I've had in terms of like my relationship with Haley, right, And.
So I think and especially.
During twenty twenty, I think I really took a step back and I was like, what's going on here? Like there was so much separation, There was so much like negativity and heat, and I was just kind of like, what's my association with this? Like if i claim that I'm a Christian, am I going to be associated with these people that I don't want to be associated with, right, And I never felt like it was God Like. I never felt like, Okay, that's them. They're just humans. They're imperfect,
Like church is full of imperfect people. And I never you know, people always be like, it's not every church, it's not every Christian. I'm like, I get that, but if if someone gets like her or abused by something, you're not like, just forget, forgive and forget and go back to it, you know. So I've always, I think the past few years, I've really just tried to figure
out where I stand in that. And it's been really hard and uncomfortable and such a deep like sacred part of me that I never felt like I wanted to just give it up. But I just didn't know where I stood with going to church or like putting myself in that situation. And So Haley has a friend who is an artist and he recently well he didn't really I don't know. He came out like a year ago, and he grew up in the church. His parents are pastors. He was like a worship leader everything, and he was
kind of like I stepped away from the church. He was like, but I ended up going to this church with some friends. It's like an affirming church, and he was like I just sat and like balled my eyes out being in worship. And I was like, oh, what's the church, you know, like maybe I could try and go visit there. And this was months ago and I talked to Haley and I was like, I would like to go to church and she was like, well, I said, but I don't know if I I don't want to
go alone. I don't know, like if anyone want to go with me. And she was like, oh, I would go with you and that alone. I was like wait what. I was like, you would go with me? And she's like yeah, of course, Like if you want me to go with you, I'll go with you. So things have just been crazy busy. I haven't even really thought about it again. And all week she was like, hey, I I want to plan something on Sunday.
Are you free? And I was like, yeah, I think I'm free.
I can be free, and so she was like she's like, Okay, it's in the morning and we just need to leave your house by like ten o'clock in the morning. And I was like that's early for us on a Sunday, like we don't typically like get up and go anywhere like on Sundays, like we like sleep in, and so I literally thought I had never had the John and Vinnie's breakfast since I've been talking about going to breakfast there.
And I was like, are we going to John and Vinnie's since she was like, I want to surprise you.
I'm not going to tell you.
So I realized that we weren't going to eat because she like made me a piece of toast, and I was like, what the heck are we doing? I was like, are we doing a matinee concert? Like we talked about our morning concert?
And so we pull in.
Traffic was horrible because the LA Marathon. She was like so flustered because and I was like, can't you just call like wherever we're going, can you call and let him know we're just running a little late.
And she's like, yeah, no, I can't really call this.
So we pull in and it took me a second, but I realized that we were at the church that I.
Had wanted to go to, and I was like so overcome with like the most profound type of love, because like.
That was the most selfless act that someone could do for me, you know yeah, And I think she's been such a rock of listening to me and she knew what it would meant mean to me, and so it was like really cool, like walking in hand in hand and being in such a place then I needed like healing with, you know yeah, and being with someone who's brought that healing to my life and is like listen to the.
Struggle of it all. And so.
I just like could I could like barely even like think about it during church because I was just like so overwhelmed by it. And so we got in the car and I was like, I don't I don't really have words, like I literally don't know if I've ever felt so like scene yeah, and like genuinely.
Cared for like that.
So it was just like I it like shifted a whole new part of me and how I view her as a person because I know, I know she loves me so much, but like, I think it was just such a selfless act that and like totally cut me off guard, and it was just really thoughtful and selfless, and it's the story isn't even about like honestly, the
story isn't even about church and religion. It was like about love, like finding someone who sees you and like sees the parts of you that maybe they don't understand, and and and.
Is willing to be uncomfortable in a space that means so much to you.
Yeah, so it was it was just like very overwhelming in the best way.
Have you talked to her about it since?
Yeah?
I mean I all day yesterday. I was just like thank you like that, and you know, I was like, how did you feel, Like what did you feel in there? And She's like, I felt, you know, I felt very safe. It felt it very welcoming. I didn't feel like ashamed or you know, uncomfortable. And I was just like really proud of her because it was like that takes a lot of bravery, Like I don't know if I'm like, I'm literally just trying to wrack my brain like have I ever done that for someone?
Like where I put myself in a position like that. But yeah, it was just really sweet.
All right.
He got me going to how was the church?
The church was great?
I mean it was just nice to be I come from such a very like charismatic type background where like, you know, you leave and it's like very emotional and like there's a lot of emotions around it, but it just felt nice to be comfortable and safe and in a place that was new, but still not feel like, oh, like am I good here? Like yeah, do I want to stay here and send the sea? But I'm definitely gonna go back and try, you know, go again. And I was like, thank you so much for doing that.
She was like, well, I told you that I wanted I would go with you, so I wanted to do it before I left for tour.
So it really is so emotional because like I get what you're saying, do you know what I mean? I get what you're saying about the church, and I get what you're saying about your relationship with God. And it's not the same thing, you know what I mean, Like it's very different. And you know, I have these conversations with Robbie too because he's Jewish, which is totally totally different, you know, religion, and I feel the same way that
you feel about Haley. You know, it's a totally different circumstance. But I feel like he embraces my faith and my relationship with God and always is willing to go and wants to learn and like I'm the same way with his faith too, you know.
And I think that oftentimes people kind of look at.
You and they can judge you, and you know, like I've gotten a lot of people saying like, how could you be with a man that's Jewish, And it's like it's everything is not one size fits all, and so I think it's about having respect for each other and loving unconditionally and.
Being that rock.
Yeah, I know.
And I think that's why it's so crazy, because the shift of how my mind worked of like I remember being like I would I could never be with someone who didn't share the same faith like that was and all be all for me, And yet I'm with someone who literally couldn't be more opposite of like what I expected, and I experienced something that was so powerfully like impactful.
Yeah.
So yeah, that was our wed and then we had a great day and we ate the best pasta that I think I've ever had.
It was like homemade pasta. Where met him at a bar.
What's the place?
Yeah, And they have a pasta it's delicious and it's on Librea And then across the street they have like a breakfast spot and it's called met her at a bar.
Oh this obviously things, So yeah, it's not then I'm smart on someone else's part, damn.
So yeah it was.
It was great, And to be honest, we start I started the weekend with a girl's night out with you and Ali and it was so fun, Genna, because Tany and I had a conversation I guess it was last week after the podcast, actually saying like it's just you know, you get into these relationships and you get it's like we love being around the people that we're with and we just like want to be with them all the time.
But it's so important to invest in like our friendships and have that space to like go out and you know, these relationships, my friendships are just as important as my relationship with Haley and like putting in the time and like intentional effort. Because you and I talk every week, but it's like like.
We were beyond that.
We don't get together and like, you know as much as we used to do we talk all.
The time, Yeah, we don't physically get together.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we were saying, like be intentionally, be intentional about it, and Allie and I were talking about it and she said the same thing.
So we were like, let's go.
Except Ali wanted to take it to a whole other level and she was like, each week we all invite a different friend into the girl's night out.
And I was back and I were like, no.
Condra didn't say anything, and then I was like, yeah.
I think it's more about like really focusing on these friends, like this relationship, and then like you know, we can do another thing where we like in my people.
Yeah, it feels very stressful too, very.
Stressful to be responsible for like picking somebody that's gonna like come in.
Vibe with the group.
Ribes, but yeah, it was really fun and we had just like got dressed up cute when and had cute drinks and dinner.
You had a.
Drink, yeah, I had one drink. Yeah, and honestly was kind of drunk. It really like the cutting back really kind of lowers the tolerance.
Yeah, and then what else did you do?
My weekend was action packed because it was rob one of Robby's kids' birthday weekends, and so we just did so many things, like he took them, He took him and his friends to Benny Hannah for the birthday dinner, and then I took his other kid to like Colory mine, and then we went to dinner just the two of us, and then Saturday we filmed a movie trailer. Oh yeah, I don't know if you've ever gone into iMovie and tried filming trailers in there.
But they're actually like really cool.
And like actually very user friendly, and so the kids just learned about it like the other week. So we spent literally all Saturday filming a movie trailer, talking like eleven am to four pm is when we wrapped.
Wow.
Yeah, it actually was really fun.
But they wanted to do a movie too, and I was like, at this rate, a movie is gonna take us.
A week a year. Oh yeah, we do.
This in Wisconsin. Uh, my father in law writes a script and then when we get there we I'll take our parts and perform it and record it and edit it and make it into a little film. Oh my god, every year, not every year, four times.
That's really fun to have to look back on. Yeah, it was actually.
Robby got like really into it.
He like put like on a piece of paper, he put every scene like what we were going to do for every scene.
Yeah, we found like a map. It was like a hidden map.
Treasure chest in our backyard or whatever, and so he like wrote a map and like lit it on fire and like really like he really went all in on it, which you know I love.
Yeah.
Yeah, I got dressed up into characters so that was really fun, and then went to the Kings game Saturday night.
Yeah.
Let me just tell you, hockey, if you're a sports gurly or if you're wanting to be a sports gurly, hockey is the sport.
Because it is action packed. It's not boring.
You're like baseball, like you're watching stuff all the time.
So heart mark, but it's true.
There's like so much action going on. And then when there's not action, like they're like flipping periods or whatever. I don't know what you call it, overturning the Yeah, it's there's like so much stuff on the JumboTron. They're constantly like interactive and like doing fun games with people, and like, I don't know, I just find it to be pumping like jams.
Yeah.
I find it to be a really fun, pleasant experience. So hockey is my sport.
I don't know, so unexpected because it's pretty aggressive. I wouldn't see you as like a person liking the like aggression of hockey.
When you sit far enough back, like you don't see them like slam into the glass, and so it's just not as a brace okay. Yeah. And then yesterday we did a barbecue. It was like raining in La So it's kind of a weird one. But yeah, there's like a family celebration for his son. So it's a very action packed I did like, I feel like I lived ten lives this weekend.
Yeah, I kind of felt. I felt like it was a busy.
We went on we went to like Westlake Village and went on a boat, like a little duffy boat.
With Haley's friends que It was so fun.
We got our favorite sandwiches and the one I told you about, and we just rode around in the duffy and I love I just love being on water.
I love being in a boat on water because.
You're a scorpio.
Oh that's gonna be why totally? Why?
Yeah?
And then we and then yesterday it was just like pat Haley's just got so much to do before tour. So we like, you know, went to church, went to lunch, went to like did all her work stuff, went shopping.
It was a busy day. I slept really well.
Actually we both saw Robbie and I both saw your Instagram story, and I was like, we need a church together next week.
It's done, so.
I couldn't even read.
I got so many like messages, even not just from uh like people that I don't know, but from like friends and people I know that were so emotional, Like I could barely even like open my Instagram this morning. I was just like, but like in the best way, like I was just sharing it more as like it was just such an a special act of love. And I always hesitate, like do I share these things like they're so personal?
But like also it's.
Such a thing because like, let's say you wrote a list like five years ago of the perfect.
Person of your in your life. You know, you would have said, like.
Muscles, good job, Christian, you know what I mean, Like you would have given it all these things, And in reality, what really matters is the character and the person that you're with, you know what I mean, not all those external things. And I think if anybody's listening and they have that list, rip it up, baby.
Yeah.
I think we both probably had lists that are not like that didn't come to number one on my list yet Persian jew.
And I got me a lesbian Jesus Jesus, Oh I did, I did.
I did discover a new thing and and it's gonna be called the Hey Babe Series and it's all thanks to Taylor Swift. So we'll take a quick break and we'll get into that. It might be on work calls usually picks up, Hey babe, Hi, can you hear me?
Did you know Taylor Swift grew up.
On a Christmas tree farm?
But did you know that? Did you know? Yes? She did?
She did in Pennsylvania. That one may have been his most impressive fact.
I love you.
He's like in a board meeting. Sorry, everybody, I need to take this real quick.
So on Saturday morning, all I could do was look at TikTok Instagram, and I was searching for videos of Taylor Swift's first night of her Era's tour.
They weren't hard to find.
They were not hard to find.
But what I'm saying is I was just like I was just locked in, yeah you know, And so I'm learning all these facts and I'm showing them to him, like I was like, oh my gosh, did you see Taylor Swift jumped into a pool, like, look at this ocean she just jumped into on the stage. I'm just showing him all this stuff and I thought it was
funny because his reactions were like funny. So I started filming them and I would do them one by one and I'd be like, hey, babe, and he'd be like doing something and he's like, yeah, did you know that Taylor Swift sang forty four songs on the opening on ever Tories?
Like I did not know that. So it's kind of kept it going with every single.
Taylor Swift fact that I learned over the weekend, and it was a hit. People were really enjoying the Hay Babe series. They want me to continue doing it.
Yeah, you gotta really go. You gotta find a lot of facts about Taylor.
No, they want it outside of Taylor Swift back like yeah, facts like whatever, whatever it may be. You know, somebody suggested maybe doing ice spice next, Yeah.
You could really do it with a yeah, wow, it's not.
Just I was expecting Harry, So I was like, Harry's a touchy subject.
But yeah, but but continuing the series with like different facts or something.
Just like random facts about the day. I just like the Hey Babe intro.
Yeah, yeah, But honestly, a forty four song set list is insane.
Crazy, Like you know, I'm a Springsteen guy, and I've always loved that he does like four hour shows. I mean, this is a three hour plus show she's doing. That's incredible and forty four songs. I have the set list here. We don't need to name all forty four songs. But opening with Miss American on the Heartbreak Press did not see that coming, did.
Not want it, and honestly could do without it.
Well, you shouldn't say that till you see the show.
True, okay, true, true, true. Maybe there's a reason for it.
I will say like TikTok has changed the game of concerts because I feel like I know every outfit and like set, and.
I'm probably kind of bums me out in a way.
So the first night I was like I couldn't get enough. I was like, I need to know.
I saw basically like half the venue's outfits that they made and more to the show. I saw her outfits, I saw the set, and I was like I need more and more more. But then the second night I was like, I almost don't want to say I want to like go into it not feeling like I've seen the show already.
I will say I'm.
So happy that Invisible String and Bejeweled are part of the forty four song set list. Of course, I also think so there's like an acoustic section of the of the concert.
Where she does this surprise every night, Right.
Every night's gonna be She's gonna kind of shift them out, so you don't know what song you're gonna get, which I appreciate. You know, Taylor Swift doesn't just do the same show. She does like ninety percent the same show and changes it up every city, So I appreciate that.
As a mirror ball, Stan I was really thrilled that first night we got a Yeah, acoustic mirror ball.
So I'm wondering, I wish I knew what what song she was gonna be rotating in the acoustic set, because like, if she doesn't out of the Wood, out of the Woods isn't on the set list, But if she doesn't acoustic out of the Woods, you would like that that I would fly wherever that's being done. Oh really, yeah, because that she has she did like this Grammy performance where she not at the Grammys but the Grimmy Museum performance on the piano, she did out of the Woods.
It's one of my favorite performances of all time. Yeah, so if she did that, I would be like tell me when and where? And I might be like, hey, like can you message Taylor just to see if she's playing that anywhere? But yeah, I just she's incredible. She's so iconic and she's so like did you see the TikTok where she's playing Champagne Problems And she gets to the bridge and the crowd just out of nowhere, starts going crazy and she's like almost confused, like what is happening?
Like she's looking at the crowd like I think, like, are they cheering at something that's not me? Like it was so funny because they were just so excited that she was about to sing the bridge of the song that they were like anticipating it.
I know.
I mean, damn, did you see the videos for like jumping into the water?
Yeah, why don't you do that?
Well, it's the screen on the stage. No, I know that you thought you swam the length of this.
She's not jumping into actual water, but she's swan diving into something.
What is she?
I wonder if it's like a pad, you know, like a big like that's hard or.
That's what I'm saying, she's swan dive.
Into a pad like owt.
Or I was also thinking of one of people are down there and there's like.
That's even more terrifying. She goes She's not just like belly flopping, She's literally diving.
They probably constructed a new contraption that she could dive into that's never been done before.
That's like not painful, Like is it just jello or is it like cotton balls or a big baby film.
Pit, a foam pit.
I would dive into a phone pit.
Yeah, I guess would come back up in a different outfit.
Is that right?
Or well?
I think that's also it's like a lot of like waves.
And does she dive into a contraption that puts the new outfit on her?
No, I don't think.
That that would be amazing, But yeah, I feel I also feel it's like every every time she does something new, I'm like, if we live in the generation of Taylor Slift.
We do what a blessing? What a blessing.
So everybody that went and posted videos, I appreciate you and tagging mean invisible string. It really made me feel a certain type of way.
Mm hmmm hm.
So I wanted to talk about It's on our hot topic list. So Gwyneth Paltrow they there was a I don't know if it was a podcast.
That she did.
Yeah, she did some podcast interview, but I don't know who it was with standby it.
Was the Art of Being Well podcast correct, and she was just talking about her like wellness routine and diet which includes intermittent fasting and it was like bone broth for lunch and vegetables for dinner. She talked about how she works out and she does her sauna. It's like
all very important to the routine. And you know, obviously when you talk about your diet and it's like that, like that you're gonna get criticism by It's such an interesting thing because it's one of those things where you're kind of damned if you do and you're damned if
you don't. Because she was just she just said what she eats, and I'm right, I'm like, well, at least she's just like, I don't eat anything really and this is how I maintain my physique and what I do and instead of acting like she's eating I don't know.
Like part of it's interesting because she did get a lot of hate for it, and I understand, like I do understand that it's triggering for people. I do understand that it doesn't promote a healthy or balanced diet. But at the end of the day, it is her truth. Yeah, that is her truth. That is what she's eating in
the day. And so like a lot of people, sometimes people will come at me and say, like, I'm promoting you know, disordered eating because I'm not eating gluten or you know, I'm eating certain types of things, and I'll post my meals and they're like, that's not enough food. But I'm eating the way that I'm eating because I have hashimotives disease. This is the way that I'm eating
for my body, for my health, for my lifestyle. So I think that and that's for some reason somebody told I don't know who she's working with or what's going on here, but somebody told her to intermittent fast drink broth for a lot. I mean, yes, it's obviously scary to look at, but it's also her truth.
I think it's it kind of promoting it. She just got asked the question.
Yeah, and it kind of gets into the conversation of like when you have a platform and you have a wide following, and especially because her company is wellness, you know, I think it's like that argument of like.
I'm I'm kind of on the.
Side of like she was asked a question about her diet and routine and she answered it truthfully, but at the same time, it brings on this this like is this what other people feel like they need to be doing on the basis of wellness?
You know what I'm saying.
So I think it's it's a very fine line that you have to walk when you have a platform and you're talking about topics that can be triggering or you know, picked apart like that.
But it wasn't.
It was interesting to see the response, and I'm kind of glad that like we're moving in a direction where we can where we are talking about these things and like the health and like being able to know like nourishing and feeding your body is not a bad thing.
You know, I couldn't do this. My body would not survive at five pm.
But it's also in asana after all, this are you joking?
It's also if she were to be like posting photos of her eating pizza, people would be like, she doesn't really eat that pizza, you know, so you like kind of it's like a tricky topic.
It's like you just have to you have to do you you know what I mean.
And I think it's interesting because as much hate as Gwyneth Paltrow gets, and she continues to get, she's just herself. She is living her life the way she wants to does not care. And there's a part of me that's like, what is it.
It's like, it's your body and you have to know what what your body needs it once.
My body does not. My body needs way more than that.
And I know that body cannot intermittent fast no, like it just can't.
I need food in the morning, like need.
It, and a sweet treat at night.
Yeah.
Yeah, I do need a sweet treat at night too.
Yeah.
It's it's the best.
Oh.
I made the most delicious Oh my gosh, chout out Jennifer Fishirks. I got the idea from her, but I basically wash all these berries, put the berries in a like a like a pie tin. Okay, then I get dark chocolate chips, mix it with coconut oil. Melt melt it, melt it down, port over the berries, put it in the freezer, and you have like this delicious fruity dark chocolate dessert at the end of the day.
It is divine. I actually Hashi Moto approved normally your like suggestions. It's like delicious. I'm like, okay, but that actually sounds good. And I saw someone do it with yogurt, like Greek yogurt over the berries and then freeze it'.
That's Jennifer Fisher's resty with the yogurt. But I found that that it was My chocolate was too hot and it was too melty.
I don't know. It didn't work for me.
Oh, you mixed the chocolate with the yogurt, put the yogurt.
I dip the berries in the yogurt, and then I put them on the pan, I think, and then you're maybe supposed to freeze them, but then you.
Put the hot chocolate. It just gets all like weird.
Tricky perhaps tricky.
Yeah, I think we have to take a break and then we're going to come back with emails. Did you want to talk about Kelly leaving Gray's anatomy Mark.
And we can cover when we get back.
Okay, all right, we're back. Mark is the lone ranger who is caught up on Gray's Anatomy.
I only do it for this show. It's scrubbing to ourselves.
We do whatever we want.
We talked about Gray's Anatomy other than the Farewell episode in a year, if.
I ever think about not washing and I'm like, nope, I gotta watch it because if it comes up, I gotta be ready. No.
I think it's just part of your routine.
That you are very strength. You're using as an escape thought inject.
Yes, we should look at a new title then for the podcast.
You No, we're so scrubbing in you know what, Yes, we are, because you know what happens when you scrub and you prepare, you disinfect, and you jump into a surgery that is changing your life.
And that is what this podcast embodies. We are removing our our cell was at the door, and we are stepping into this o r which is the studio, and we are diving into this podcast that is changing lives.
Wow, that is brilliant. Giving us a lot of credit.
But one recent episode, somebody said to another one, Hey, you're scrubbing in. I'm like, yeah, scrubbing in whoop whoop, But yeah falls on daddy. It's just me all by myself.
Yeah, it isn't just you that that falls on. Yeah, but there is some news, Yeah, breaking news.
Maggie Pierce is leaving the show in a couple of weeks, and I thought we should talk about that.
Kellen McCreary, who plays Maggie, is.
She and Doug are still struggling, still going through it. She's still crashing over at Shepherd's place, and uh now it may not get resolved adequately because she's leaving.
Do we think this her departure will end in a exiting following Meredith vibe or a tragic.
Horrible death.
Don't care?
That's that's pretty cut throat, because I do. I do care about that. You do mean like she might still come back? Or if she dies and she's not coming back. That's how I feel like Gray's does it? They either the people who they kill off are definitely not coming back.
If this is May, well not Patrick, Dempsey and Danny came back.
Okay, true, If this were in May, i'd say they're killing everybody. It's in April, so they're not going to kill it she'll be back, probably for the season finale. But I do have a complaint for anyone who's still washing. It's getting very predictable like this. Last week's episode opened with this woman in bed talking to her partner being like, oh gosh, doctor, can we schedule our trip for Italy? It's always been my dream to see Italy? And I'm like, oh, oh,
the only place you're going is the Morgue. Lady, you can't be talking about your dream vacation. That's the kissing death on this show.
Yeah, don't talk about any future plans on Gray's settle.
Mercy West.
Yeah, she was toast but alert.
My gosh, you know what five minutes the show spoiler.
Anyway, she dies five minutes into the show.
No, she says, her Italy trip whatever. Every Grays fan knows that this woman is now doomed insurance.
Yeah.
Dark also be.
Happy to know that Owen and Taddy are doing better.
Right, Thank you so much for that.
It was literally chomping at the bit to know what was going on with them.
She's chief now chief.
Yeah, I saw that.
I actually did think about Owen Hunt recently and I smiled, Oh.
Wow, I feel like I smile if I think about Kevin mckid. I don't know if I saying about Owen Hunt.
Yeah, but I can't separate them, as you know. And it just goes to show you that relationships can change. You know, you can hate someone one day and love them the next.
It's true.
Well, we have a very exciting guest this Thursday. Because y'all have been asking for her for a very long time.
We got her, and we got her.
We have Chrissa Stanton joining us. She is also known as Brack your b B on Instagram and her blog. But every time I post about her or like talk about her, people are like, have her on the podcast.
So we listen and your wish came true is our command.
So we'll be back Thursday with Carissa, and we hope you have a great week and we love you so much.
We love you.
Bye.