277 An Episode For the Angry Parts

Transcript Speaker 1: But I say to you, whoever is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment. And whoever says to his brother, Raqqa will be answerable to the Sanhedrin. And whoever says, you fool, will be liable to fiery Gehenna. Speaker 2: Welcome back to Scripture for your inner outcasts. Today is Thursday, June 11th, 2026, the Memorial of Saint Barnabas. Today we are joined by clinical psychologist Doctor Peter Malinowski, the co-founder and President of Souls and Hearts, and host of our sister podcast, Interior Integration for Catholics. Speaker 1: Okay, it is so good to be with you. We are working with a scripture passage, a gospel passage, Matthew five, verses 22 to 24, which sometimes can be really scary, I think. Scary for exiles. Yes, scary for firefighters, scary for managers. We're not going to avoid it. We're going to go right into it. And it reads like this. This is our Lord saying, but I say to you, whoever is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment. And whoever says to his brother, Raqa will be answerable to the Sanhedrin. And whoever says, you fool, will be liable to fiery Gehenna. Therefore, if you bring your gift to the altar, and there. Recall that your brother has anything against you. Leave your gift there at the altar. Go first and be reconciled with your brother, and then come and offer your gift. All right. Let's let's let's get into this with a special focus on you exiles, right? Because so many exiles carry anger, actually, and anger, Saint Thomas Aquinas tells us, is the ordered response to injustice, the ordered emotional response to injustice. And so many parts are carrying unresolved injustice, either real injustice or it could be perceived injustice. Sometimes there can be ways that parts misunderstand their experience. Speaker 1: But it's not that one who is merely angry is liable to judgment. I want to be really clear, because one of the reasons why so many parts are excelled is because of the intensity of the anger that they carry. And manager parts can point to this passage and say, see, we're going to be liable to judgment with all that anger. And the approach is to stuff you away, stuff you away with your anger, anger. Saint John of the cross tells us, is a first moral response. It's a first moral act. It doesn't carry any weight until it's acted upon. So there's a lot of terrible limitations in English to express internal experience. One of the words is anger, right? This is the kind of anger that our Lord is saying, that's harbard, that's nurtured, that's nourished, you know, that's that's kept. What he's saying here is that when it gets expressed in inappropriate ways, when we start calling our brother names like Raqqa or you fool, that's not good. That's not worthy of praise. This impulse to act out is often because we haven't really addressed what that at least perceived injustice is. We've been neglecting our parts. And the more that we suppress something, the more that we deny it, the more likely it's to come up in less controlled, less predictable, more impulsive ways. Speaker 1: So we want to embrace the parts of us that carry anger, that have these impulses that would lead us to act out if we just went with them. But we want more than just being able to resist those impulses. We want to be able to understand them. This is where we come up so short, so often in working with exiled parts of us. You exiles, can you have a place at the table? It will help so much if you can agree not to overwhelm. And not just to run with impulses and desires to to do things like this. Because, you know, obviously our managers are going to have real concerns about that. So our innermost selves, right? Because we can't just do everything that we feel we have to work together collaboratively and cooperatively. So that's kind of what my call is to your entire system exiles, managers, firefighters, to work together under the leadership and guidance of your innermost self. If parts can come to trust that there can be a good process with that. What a beautiful thing. Speaker 2: For further exploration of the parts of you that carry anger, check out our sister podcast, Interior Integration for Catholics episodes 103 to 113. Speaker 1: Our Lady, Our Mother, Untier of knots. Pray for us, Saint Joseph, pray for us. Saint John the Baptist pray for us.