259 Peace Be With You, All of You

Transcript Speaker 1: Now there were devout Jews from every nation under heaven staying in Jerusalem. And at this sound they gathered in a large crowd. But they were confused because each one heard them speaking in his own language. They were astounded and in amazement they asked, are not all these people who are speaking Galileans? Speaker 2: Welcome to Scripture for your inner outcasts. Happy Pentecost. It's Sunday, May 24th, 2026. Today is a special Sunday episode of Scripture for your inner outcasts, as we are joined by both doctor Jerry Creed and Doctor Peter Malinowski, the co-founders of Souls and Hearts. They will be offering a joint reflection on today's readings. Speaker 1: Hello all of you, Scripture for your inner outcast listeners, especially your exiles. Welcome to Pentecost Sunday and I'm so excited to be with my colleague. We're co-founders of Souls and Hearts together, and I am proud to say, my dear friend doctor Jerry, we are back together. It is Pentecost. Speaker 3: It is indeed good to be with you too. Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's good to be with these readings. Um, just looking at them again, there's so much here that I think could appeal in so many ways to you. Exiled parts tuning in to us. I'm curious, Jerry, lead us off. What? What grabbed you? The hardest, fastest mostest whatever out of all these readings with regard to exiled parts. Speaker 3: Right, right. Well, I mean, one, uh, first Corinthians with the many parts, one body, obviously from an event perspective, you want to go there. Honestly, I dress that in my book. So actually where I am drawn is the gospel itself. Okay? And, and I'm really drawn because this is, this is a scene where the apostles are in the, the room. They've locked the door and they're in fear. Right. And so the doors were locked. I was really kind of struck by that. And, and the idea of the system and the exiles being in fear in a locked room. Mhm. Um, so this is the protective system doing exactly what protective systems do. They keep vulnerable parts safe by shutting everything down and keeping the world out. Right. So, you know, um, the disciples, what are they carrying there? They're they're these, uh, exiled parts, if you will, are represented by the disciples, the memory of abandonment, I mean, and they fled the shame like Peter, denial, traumatic witnessing of the crucifixion. I mean, that brutal, the crushing of all their hopes. Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, everything. Speaker 3: So they've got all the classic exile burdens, shame, abandonment, despair, helplessness. Right. Speaker 1: Well, also things like uncertainty because, you know, by this time there have been reports coming in like there's there's possibly a setup of being disappointed again, you know, if they were to trust what Mary Magdalene had been telling them, for example, or the disciples on the road to Emmaus. So there this is deep. Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what happens though is so powerful, right? Jesus. You know, you might sort of see him in this in this mode as like the inmost self, self energy, if you will, God himself, of course, entering the system and he doesn't force the door down or bang down the door, he just appears in the midst of them. And the other thing, you know, that that I, I mean, I just love about this is what does he say? He says, peace be with you. He doesn't go. Why were you hiding? Why did you flee? Why did you deny me? Like he doesn't shame these protectors and exiles, right? He. It isn't an accusation whatsoever. It's. He's offering peace. And this really is the posture of the inmost self, right? Calm and compassion. Curiosity. There's no agenda but being present. And, you know, and offering peace. I just, I just love that. And then and then what does he do right after that? He shows them his wounds. Speaker 1: Mhm. Speaker 3: Right. I think this is so important for exiles that Jesus is not hiding his wounds. He shows them that they're real. They're they're present, and they're no longer sources of shame or defeat. They are now part of this resurrected reality. So for the exiles, healing is not erasing what happened. It's not pretending the wound isn't real. Uh, it's the wound being held in a different way. Witnessed. Seen, you know, no longer hidden in the dark, you know, locked room. The disciples could see the wounds were real and that he was alive and at peace. This is the hope we hold out for all the exiles. Your wounds are real, you know, but they don't have the last words, right? Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm thinking, is that here, all of this is now integrated like the crucifixion is now woven into the narrative. Right? You're as you were saying, it's not denied. It's not forgotten. It's not erased. It's not, um, it's not overwhelming. Doesn't have to be overwhelming. And then therefore split off, but it's integrated into the story. It becomes part of a coherent, cohesive narrative, if you will. And that's, that's what our excels. That's what you need to be able to see is that all of this can fit together. It doesn't have to be pieces fragmented, scattered all over that. The story comes together for each of the apostles, for each of the parts. Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and and what's the response? It says, the disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord. So when the inmost self is present, right? Truly present the parts that have been hiding in grief, they they move toward joy. Right? This is what we know in the IFS therapy and parts work Therapy that when the self shows up to the exile, the exile isn't just being tolerated, it's found right and just joy in being seen. And then what does Jesus do? He breathes on them. He says, Receive the Holy Spirit. Right? So, um, you know, to me, this is like obviously reminiscent of God breathing on Adam, right. But, but for, for the exiles who've been holding their breath shrunk down, they're just waiting. They receive breath so they receive new life. This is this is an unburdening and a new role and all this stuff for the exiles. This is what they've been waiting for. Speaker 1: Well, can I, I like that a lot. And I'd like to switch gears to something that was really grabbed me. It was really on my mind about our first reading from acts. And this is when the apostles had received the Holy Spirit. In Acts two. They begin to speak of the gospel. They speak the gospel to people and it reads. Now there were devout Jews from every nation under heaven staying in Jerusalem. And at this sound they gathered in a large crowd. But they were confused because each one heard them speaking in his own language. They were astounded and in amazement they asked, are not all these people who are speaking Galileans? Then how does each of us hear them in his native language? We are Parthians, Medes and Elamites, inhabitants of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the districts of Libya near Cyrene. They go on. And what's striking to me here is how the message is tuned perfectly to the recipient. Each part, each exile, can expect to hear God in his own language. And this is really important because some parts are preverbal. They don't really have a lot of language capacity. They're so young, they don't, you know, so many of you don't really grip on to words, but there's a way that God is communicating through the innermost self. Two parts. If we can have the space to tune into it. And so that that idea each of us hears in our own language. Wow. And that's at the parts level, not just, you know, at the level of the unity of the person. Speaker 3: And that makes me wonder, like, what is the native language of, of an exile? It's the language of the wound. You know, this. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: Specific, particular unrepeatable experience of suffering that's unique to each person. Then there's this proclamation of the mighty acts of God. So somehow it reaches each person in the language of their own deep experience. Mhm. Right. So it's not a one size fits all or anything like that and or, or just imposed from the outside. Right. It's personal and specific to each person, each exile within. Speaker 1: That's, that's the beauty. That's the Attunement. And I think you really struggle and it's understandable, really struggle to believe that anyone would be attuned to you. You know, if you have the experience repeatedly going over years of not having anyone attuned to you or not feeling any attunement from anyone. This is such a striking contrast. You know, the degree of attunement in speaking your language, but God speaks all languages and he can speak the language that you have as well. Mhm. You know, the question is, can we get enough space? Can there be enough confidence in God from our protector parts to allow there to be, ideally, you know, in the presence of the innermost self, innermost self accompanying and sort of being a mediator between you exiles and one of the three persons of the Trinity, you know. And if not that I mean, then Our Lady or any number of other spiritual confidants, Saint Joseph is is often a great one, Saint Paul, whoever. Right that they might be able to experience something of the love of God from. Speaker 3: So we can see the Pentecost maybe mystery as its interior event, right? That the spirit wants to enact in every human soul. Right? That's the movement from locked doors of, you know, rooms of fear through this breath of new life and, you know, and speaking the mighty acts of God, like all these, this good things that are exiles are being called to, but they need you need to, I guess, speak. I like the speaking in the language of the womb. Mhm. Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. No, I love, I love that language. Speaking in the language of the wound or speaking the language of the burden, at least initially, until that can be let go. And then the idea that all of these apostles and all of the parts of us can participate in sharing the joy and passing on those graces to other people, so that all of these Parthians, Medes and Elamites and Mesopotamians and Cappadocians can can also take in because that's an amazing thing when parts are integrated, when they're free to their burdens, when the wounds are not erased, but they're integrated, right? Where there's a coherent narrative there, where there's a story, then usls participate in the salvation of other souls with all their heart, with all their parts. And that's mind blowing for, for so many parts that were just so isolated within. Speaker 2: If you're enjoying the content of this podcast, then the resilient Catholics community might be a good fit for you. 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