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representing Chief Thiji in this whole situation. He came on my show live on seven hundred WW and his immediate reaction to this thing was like, listen, there's many in the rank and file weren't necessarily Teresa Thigi fans, but guess what we all are now because what happened to her, that she's being railroaded out of her job and being called this is nothing but politics and she's a political scapegoat, and finding out on her thirty fifth anniversary of or

hire as a new cop and now the chief of Cincinnati, the first woman to do that long history of service for her family, as an insult to the badge and insult to the whole process and what's interesting about this after the followed very very few. And that's, by the way, I may say, not serving all of them, but the only one to voice an opinion on counsel and this whole thing joins me now and that is Seth Wall Seth, good morning. I'm doing well, but I'm also probably doing

better than you right now. I can't imagine what you woke up this morning and went in the seconds where the cobwebs are there, they go away. The first thing you probably thought of is is this dumpster fire?

the whole thing? Either way, it's a horrible look for the mayor, especially with an election coming up in a couple of weeks.

very very important decision. And to change the police chief, no matter when you're changing the police chief, but to change it in such a chaotic tactic fashion, with no clear plan, no clear evidence about why the decision is being made. That is a massive problem, and it is I think it's I think Ken was spot on. I imagine this is terrible from hero out for the police Department, because you know, even if it's not a situation of escapegoat, it sure feels that way. And it's a situation that

we need to be providing stability right now. We need to be showing leadership and we need to put our plan for because the most important thing is public safety, not personality conflicts.

and thirty one hundred FFTY officers. Can't have that. We got have lateral recruiting class. We're going to pull officers from other jurisdictions and make an appeal to them with money and the job at hand, to come to Cincinnati and work here and work for a district and make a difference in crime, make some money yourself and all that.

That's all well and good. Four and a half million dollars does in this whole move undermine that, because if I'm a officer, if I'm a beat cup, and let's say I don't know I work in a jurisdiction, I'm maybe considering making the move over to Cincinnati go a whole lot of second, Look, look how dirty they just did the chief and that's a chief. I'm nobody. What chance do I have? So did we just shoot ourselves in the foot? We opened the coffers up to four

and a half mil. But at the same time send the message out that we don't know what we're doing over here, and we'll make you escapegoat politically if we have to.

Because it was moving forward under the last police chief who's currently on administrative belief, it's not That's what That's.

for the department. But it's not clear what the transition is and what's carrying on and what the problem even was in the first place that led to this change. So how can you and I even confidently say we know what's happening next? You know, is all the plans that we've done for the last two months drown out the window and we're starting fresh or are we continuing it? And if we're continuing it, how are we going to

provide the confidence people that that's what's happening. I don't know, and that is not an acceptable answer for somebody who's city on city council ne' to give you, And it's not an acceptable answer for the city manager to give us that as the solution right now is that we don't have enough information to even answer that question. So yeah, I'm very worried about that.

crime was committed. But he took essentially the political bullet and said, okay, final, I'll be the one that puts my name to this, this thing that got that ball rolling. And that was all the behest of the mayor's office. So that's greasy and dirty as well, because that is a potential civil rights violation, which you know again, when you're fighting to keep your nose above water like after Puribals and keep his political career going, that seems like

a pretty big misstep to me. You open yourself up for a civil rights case. But I don't know, does they only care about this election coming up and damn the torpedoes. We'll see what happens after that.

It sounds like the mayor may have been aware of conversations transpiring behind the scenes which led to comments last week. But beyond that, I don't have anything to indicate that Aftab was the one who made the decision.

This was, this was after that. There's nothing newsworthy going on, and just out of the blue, she's in Denver and now we got to pull the plug on or doesn't make any sense. And I brought up A. Henny's name earlier, and he seems like a great guy, be a great chief. But I guess the question is, wasn't that Terry. We don't know why Terry Thigi got fired in the first place. There's no reason around this. And technically she's not fired,

she's still on administrative leave. So there's that level of confusion. What are you getting with Henny that you didn't have with Thigi? Nobody knows.

don't know what we're holding her accountable for. There may verver will be a good reason, Scott that you and I would agree with and say, yeah, that's the right decision, and you know, it had to happen urgently, but we absent of information, we don't know that, and so the perception is chaos, and uh, you know, we're reacting to crime, but we're reacting now to it as opposed to over the summer where you and I've had multiple conversations about.

I talk about economic development all the time. You know, right now is when we need the inspiring confidence that we've got this under control, because we want people coming downtown, we want people coming to over the run. This is not a good time to indicate in any way that we you know, we're not. We don't have a plan for how we're handling public safety. And again there may very well be a plan. They come out and tell it to us, show us what the plan is.

you make contact with. What is the consensus among the constituents in this.

And people are pretty offended by it, and I think rightfully so, and I think again, absence of information, it looks bad.

it politically, Seth is what's the strategy here. I mean, you have turmoil with an interim chief, which implies you have no control over crime and that it's all Terry Thigi's fault. You mean, Kenny the chief. It's a fresh start. Then you get to the election. Were the repercussions here? Because I'll be honest with you, even with this nonsense and this mess that's going on right now in this s show and the way this has been handled, I don't know how Aftab loses the election. I really don't.

I mean he can, I suppose, but I don't see this huge ground swell for Corey Bowman, who's a political no name upcomer, and Jad Vans's brother dad has baggage. You know what I'm saying.

Obviously that the vote there is important for people to show up and make their voices heard, but.

not clear, because this is too big and too important of an issue not to have clear answers off for the public. And I think that's really important people understand. You know, the mayor and city council or your voice is near representatives. But the way our government is set up is the administration's in charge. And if we are not getting clear answers, we need to be pushing them to get the clear answers. And we can't just rest on our laurels and say like, well that's their decision.

We need answers. We need to hold them account and we do. This is one way to do it. Let's make it clear where we're frustrated.

vocalized at an relucts of leadership capacity. I think anybody running right now should be worried and should be willing to take a stance on this issue, and they have their opinions known on this issue because this is an important issue that determines kind of how the next administration operates. In terms of you know, whoever gets elected this cycle, and if you're not willing to speak out, if you're

not willing to challenge and the hold people accountable. You know, that's the role of a city council member is to whole the administration accountable, to ask the hard questions. It's how you and I to become I would say we're friends now, Scott, but you know, we started having these conversations about a bridge fire where they thought that three years was acceptable to take to get it fixed, and I've said no way, and we got done one hundred days.

That's why we start talking about snowplouds because we didn't plow six hundred streets and we had to hold people accountable and ultimately the DPS director retired because of that, and we got somebody in there that is going to get our streets cloud this year. And that is the job of the city council member. And if you're not willing to speak out the whole the administration accountable, I

don't know why you should be elected to it. And I think that you guys should be holding people accountable and challenging us to speak out and say these things. We can all be the same party. We can all be friends, but our job is accountability.

time with my two brothers. I still love them. I take a bullet for either one or both of them. But you're allowed to disagree with people.

Donald Trump is as it's chaos. He's making rash decisions, no accountability, no context. And if you're a Democrat and you're down there, I imagine many Republicans are the no Kings rally. But if you're down there at so your point and this is your belief, I'd have to ask you, isn't this exactly what you were protesting this weekend? Chaos? No accountability, investigations by law enforcement that are politically compromised, unelected appointees like Iris Rawley having too much power, cronyism.

We protesting Trump when you should have also been protesting aftab puer vault. Scott's Loan Show seven hundred ww Solony seven hundred WLW just had a council member, Seth Walsh on the show live and he brought the noise this morning as a little whoo. That was like a third cup of coffee, Wasn't it like the only member of council not afraid to go at AFT tab pure vault at this point. Everyone else is kind of laying lows

in which way the wind blows, which I get. You know, election season, you don't know what's going to happen with the voters because they're a piste off and who could blame them based on what's happening right now, largely because of the mayor. And I think there's maybe some conservatives, probably a good number of people are cursing me out or maybe not listening anymore because I'm not drinking the entire right kool aid. And that's fine. But I look at that and go, well, you know, I just don't.

Corey Bowman seems like a good guy. You know, he's a pastor, he's the brother of the Vice president. If you're a conservative, you'd probably vote for him. But the problem is you're not in Hamlin County. It's deep, deep blue. And how much does that carry in deep blue Cincinnati?

Not one person who voted for Trump would be a No King's rally. Right, So the protesters, what were their their grievances, Well, there are a lot of individual grievances out there and anytime you have one of these tantrums, and that's what it was, a tantrum. It's a bunch of people with hold a wide difference of what it is there to bitch about. But the commonality is the president of the United States and the protesters were concerned about what many things the direction of the country that

were descending into fascism. That there's just nothing but chaos with this president. I'd agree with that, there's a lot of chaos going on. That this is a guy that makes rash decisions. There's no accountability, there's no context. Okay, you protested Trump et cetera. Point this weekend for the No King's rally, How is this different than what's happening at City Hall? Because one guy, and you could say he sure a long now aftad have pure of ball is holding the city hostage in a sense with the

stupid ways handled crime. There's platitudes and there's measures, there are too little, too late. Trump doesn't answer to anyone. And if you love Trump, you love that about him. But if you don't, you hate that. It's like he won't listen to He only listens himself. Okay, so who's aftabolist answering to council. No, we just had Seth Walshawn and he said, no one knows what's going on. We know that Trump isn't afraid of the camera or the reporter of the question. He goes to them. Hell, he

puts all this stuff out. I'm social. When Patrick Carringer was killed in his own home two days later, he didn't post about that. He posted about a ribbon cutting that he was a part of and literally steps away from. When this man was murdered his own home, not a word We had the since he beat down in late July. What did he do? Left for vacation the day after it went down. It's going viral. You know it's going

to be bad. And he fled to Canada. Ah, okay, Well, you know, if you're against chaos and no accountability and no context and doing over the hell you want to and not answering to anyone and destroy, I'm sorry, isn't it what AFTABT puervol is doing right now? One of the criticisms is you know Trump is he has his investigations, and the law enforcement are now politically compromise of Justice Department is not anymore. It's about It's about retribution and

taking care of you. Okay, Well, the guy who's just been named innor in Chief knowingly wrote a citation to cause the arrest of the white guy who is the victim in the brawl. Not the responding cops, Not the cops who showed up because they said, well, you know, we think you're the victim of a crime, but the lieutenant colonel. And it was a full month later, after the reverence demanded it, after the press conference. The charges are filed and then sealed. What what This is not

a criminal charge, it's a political charge. And it's all under sheer Long, who is essentially the pit bull for after that puer vol the same guy who was forced by the order of his boss city manager named dinner in Chief is a reward for being loyal. I may be wrong about that, and this is I don't think it's indictment of Henney because I understand he's a great guy. He's loved by the cops, and you know, I get it. You're going to do what you're told. If you're the piper,

you call the tune. And Henny is not the piper. He's way down the food chain, and he didn't want his officers to have be forced politically by the mayor's office to do that, so he said, I'll do it for you. That that's leadership in a in a very and that's leadership in a vacuum, is what that is. So this is an attack on Henny. This is an

attack on what happened. We hear about Oh my god, look at look at all the benefactors to Trump and the people that are you know, the people that support him and give him money, and his benefactors that elon musks and the butt kissing him. Okay, unelected appoint hees have too much power. And this is a much smaller scale because of the city of Cincinnati. But what Tyris Rawley, she's she's interfering with cops who or lawfully enforcement a

law by arresting individuals without standing warned. So what you're supposed to do in your cop and she's telling the person you have rights to resist. This is a woman they pay over one hundred thousand dollars to who. By the way, three years ago, when Terry Thigi got the job, the candidates, including Terry, were interviewed by Iris Rowley. Had to pass the Iris Rowley test. What authority does she have?

Two few and two infrequent state troopers, which they begrutually went along with, but just enough to make it, hey, we're cooperating with the state. You really aren't. They're coming in for like one, like one day a week or two days a week, something stupid like that. The state troopers had to be lectured by her. And if you talk about cronyism, Roly's son was hired to talk to young people at Fountain Square as a criminal pass and I guess it's maybe to get them on the right path.

He's got a part time gig through his mom, paying sixty I think, what is it? Almost sixty thousand dollars a year. Fifty thousand dollars a year. Sixty dollars an hour basically is what it is. What to talk to people to Fountain Square. You're getting fifty sixty bucks an hour. Who the hell doesn't want that gig? And why does he have that job because of his experien No, because

his mom is connected the Aftet. So for all the folks who are down on the riverfront this weekend with a No Kings rally and all the stuff that you're against, and there's a lot of there's a lot of things I get it with this president that people don't like. I understand it. Some of it I agree with myself. But for me who the problem is politics, it's not

the politician, it's the party, it's the process. You know, it's kind of funny watching folks out there who are deep deep blue, angry at deep deep red, and they don't see that the deep deep problem is the same thing. There's a lot of characteristics I just laid out and probably many more that you can check the box for Donald Trump, but you can also check that box or Aftet puerful other stuff going on. Speaking of which, speaking of the presidential l this is one to me that

I look at. I don't know. We're just people are just so angry at one side or the other that they just they can't see even when it's something is I don't know, minor as remodeling the White House. They're

gonna make a big deal out of it. So the Australian Prime ministers and I guess someone bumped into a four hundred year old mir and Trump kind of lost his mind a little bit, which is kind of funny, but pointed out that he's worried about it about one mirror while the demolition crews at the same time are ripping, are destroying the east wing, and why are they destroying the east wing they make room for this gaudy ballroom. Hold on just a second, y'all. The White House came

to be the White House in seventeen ninety two. That's two hundred and thirty three years, so let's just review a second. Okay, has that building changed you think substantially in the last two hundred and thirty plus years. Chester Arthur, Chester A Arthur, and the A stands well. I don't know what the A stands were, but it stands for something. Chester A. Arthur had a remodel done where it was largely Victorian, a lot of Tiffany glass. Some people like

the tiffany glass, some people go it's too much. And one of those people to be Teddy Roosevelt, because twenty one years later he revitalized the White House added the West Wing. The West Wing wasn't always there. Teddy Roosevelt tr put in the West Wing. It's a separate building that houses, as you know, the staff, the secretary's cabinet room,

all that stuff as well. Then our own, Cincinnati's own William Howard taff In nineteen oh nine, seven years later, comes in and expands the West Wing and says, you know what, We're gonna put an office in here, the Oval Office. The Oval Office was non existent till nineteen oh nine. In nineteen twenty seven, Calvin Coolidge put a third floor on and said, yeah, you know what, we're run out of space because we keep putting stuff in the attic. What if we just put a third floor

in this thing? And at the time, the newspapers, one of the newspaper work anti Calvin Coolidge, going, what are we doing over here? I know it's the twenties, the Roaring twenties, that we've got money, but this seems irresponsible. And of course then during this whole remodel we had the Great Depression kick in near the end of that term. In nineteen forty eight, Truman said, okay, well we really

need to double down here. And it was the most extensive renovation the history of the White House that lasted four years to remodel the White House entirely, which was well overneeded, desperately need at that point. But even since the Truman renovation. In nineteen fifty two, Jackie Kennedy created the Rose Garden and you know, Donald Trump blew that up and it pissed every Oh Rose Garden the history again, what was the Rose Garden before Jackie Kennedy did something there?

Gerald Ford put a swimming pool in, Nixon put in a bowling alley. In seventy three, Obama did the Big dig and that just basically expanded the situation room and the space under the west wing, so nothing was destroyed there. But we've had a long history of blowing up the White House and doing different things. I just I don't understand why, hey, taking the west one would put a new ballroom in. It's just because Trump's doing it.

Obama had a basketball court put it or something. I don't know if the court was always there, but had that I wonder if that went away. I don't know, but it seems like they do a good job even with the shutdown, of taking care of themselves. And that is the point of the discussion. It's like you keep blaming one side or the other. You just keep making excuses for your team and ignoring it when the other. You emphasize it when the other side does it, they

ignore it when your side does it. It's exhausting. I think for those of us, the eighty percent of us we just want to live our lives, make money, be left alone, probably feel about the same way. You know, back to the government shutdown. And as they said, as we get closer to thirty thirty five days in the significant of the shutdown gets greater and greater. You know, for the first couple of weeks, who cares, got some park shutdown. Okay, somebody could get paid. Eventually they get paid,

you know, a month. And now it's starting to cut to the corel aboe. You know, we're getting job reports and things like that start to go by the wayside. And now you know, nuclear energy furloughs. Okay, well what does that look like? In the longer drags on, the deeper and deeper we start to feel this. But the beginning, it's it's we're still I believe we're still in the theater stage of this thing. Okay, nuclear weapons agency has been hit according to Fox News, Right, a government shutdown

hits top nuclear weapons agency. All right, I'd be concerned if we had to launch nukes. Would you still be able to do that? Yes, yes we would because all but eight percent of the government is still open. That's not going to change the pain felt by federal workers and contractors. And maybe when you show up to get

something done, like for example, got an email. Doesn't apply to me at all, but I pay Social Security as probably you do when you get an email from the Social Security adminster saying listen, you know what the officers are shot, but you still do stuff online. So, as I said just yesterday, as a matter of fact, to our buddy Schaeffer, over it all worth financial, they're going

to get back together. I guess the people decide this to make sure that the COLO that would be the cost of living raiss for those on Social Security will get their cost of living increase, because if he didn't do that, and the old people who vote would be pissed off. Now you're literally putting your lips on that third rail, that's what you're doing. But you know, the stuff that's going to really really upset people, like social Security, we're still going to continue to do that kind of stuff.

And we're always going to do that because this is nothing but theater. Now. Granted, the longer we get into it, the more of those things will see and feel, and we'll just get tired of it, and eventually somebody's gonna blink and they'll come back and we'll just shut the government down again in about six or seven weeks and

start this process all over again. Slowly. Here the big one seven hundred WLW do have some developing news, and we've been so I gots obsessed with the Terry Fiji thing that's still going on that there's actually other stuff going on in the world. One of those things is recall, right before all this broke was the intoxicating hemp law reform that was going down, where intoxicating hemp uh and that whole process is it's rather complex if you're not

following what's going on there. We have beverages out there that have THHC in them, and THHG, of course, is the element in cannabis THHC delta nine in particular that gets you high. And there's a lot of confusion over this whole thing. I hope I can straighten it out maybe a little bit here, make some sense of this, because it's a complex issue as to why we're going after intoxicating hemp. And there's beverages out there that they sell that have THHC in it, but that derived from

the hemp plant. And there's a lot of complex things. Large it's because of all the lack of regulation and then sweeping regulation coming in once the people pass something like legislating recuational marijuana. So cannabis and hemp are related plants. They look alike chemically, they're different. The part that gets you high AF is a lot less present than hemp. So in cannabis. THHC is a lot high. That's the stuff that gets you high, and CBD it's the opposite.

It's it's a lot less. Hemp is legal in the United States. Cannabis isn't by federal law. Hemp is a plant, and bulk of hemp is actually used for fabric and clothing and stuff like that. Rope think for example, so THG gets you high, CBD doesn't. Hemp has something like point three percent thhdn just a trace amount of it.

So somebody along the line said, hey, you know what, since there's this hemp loophole, quote unquote, if we just get a hell of a lot of hemp and extract that point three percent thhd, we can take that and it'll have the same effect as marijuana plant the Americ cannabis plan. So technically it's a loophole because we will always find a way around prohibition always we always have in the world. If there's a black market, somebody's gonna find it, So hemp products will be sold almost anywhere

in the state, and the government has no jurisdiction. That's why we have this emergency order from Towne. Because the legislature was slow to move on changing end of it's because they're being held hostage, I guess by the far right. And we're afraid of church groups yelling at us because dare someone put something or do something that they disagree with put some of their body disagree with that. That's

how it works. And so the other thing you did know about Delta eight nine is eight is considered a less potent and milder than delta nine. That is a big component in cannabis, and you get more of a subdued high in that it's a little more relaxing, a little more clear headed, and delta nine is your classic weaed high. And so we have these beverages that are infused with

that product, the Delta eight that people enjoy. And then talking to well like the folks at fifty West for example, said hey, listen, you know our craft brew the whole craft brew thing starting to die. People are kind of craft brewed out. But you know what they really really like. They like these seltzers. They like these waters essentially that are infused with that delta eight. So you get the same effect as alcohol, but also a lot of people like the way you feel the day after. You know,

a lot of people get hangovers. By the way, my superpower never get hungover, get drinkingdrink and drink, and wake up the next day ready to go. Don't know why, just how it is in that regard. People are going, well, you know what, I don't have that feeling I have the next day. I can have a couple of these and feel nice, have a good, warm feeling about me as you get with alcohol. But I don't have the residual effect. Okay, you're twenty one or older. What's wrong

with that? Nothing? So the good news is, rather than we had this ninety day ban, and then of course there was a three companies, one here in Cincinnati filing a lawsuit against this, and there's an injunction that stops so you can still drink those beverages at fifty West and elsewhere. It's all good now. Finally, what looks like we have the legislature being forced at gunpoint to do what they're unwilling to do, and we have new legislation

that addresses all this stuff. The guy behind it, of course, is Steve Hoffman. He's a physician and also state senator from just the Tip City. He joins me next on the show, to talk about this and more coming up on seven hundred WW Cincinnati Good Morning. He's got fum here on seven hundred WW streaming on the iHeartRadio app. We have the TG stuff going on, of course, and

we also have this. This is kind of breaking news and you're getting at first, three Ohio companies, you know, FIUL a lawsuit challenging Governor to wines emergency order to ban the sale of low level intoxicating him products, namely those celtzas you like because they're infused with Delta eight. And a lawsuit was enjoined by those companies and he had a ninety day ban in effect, and that was set aside. But guess what, we may have a resolution.

We may have a resolution in this whole sort of affair on that is Ohio Senator Steve Huffman out of just a Tip City. He's a physician by trade, but also longtime lawmaker in the Senate. Steve, Good morning, Houses Wednesday morning.

or edible or vape or tincture or something along those lines. Unfortunately, because it's not regulated, some retailers, not a lot of them, but a number of them, to take notice, are selling them the kids, and we can't have that. I understand that whole thing. I thought that the ninety day ban

was all overreaching when you're preventing adultshom enjoying. But again, the lawsuit forces the hand, the Governor Dwine forces the hand, and the end result is we're hearing that there's a sub bill to be added to your Senate Bill fifty six. It would add hemp regulation to it. Kind of bringing everything together on the same page.

will be able to continue to do this. But in here, as you've spoken before, and your wife enjoys the cannabis strength that you'd be able to sell the five percent of the five milligrams of THHC in a bar, but you would be able to as a carryout by ten milligrams from that bar or from a liquor establishment at twenty one and over.

and a little chemical yoga. As long as you do it in control, you're not driving who you hurt, and except maybe yourself a little bit. Now, if it gets to be a habit, different story. But nonetheless, these are the vices which adults are allowed to enjoin the Buckeye State and across this country of our stief off men. It fine with it, So that's good. Is there anything

in here? Is this gonna let's rewind You may not know the answer to this, but we'll let's satisfy those who the three companies that brought the suit in the first place. I mean, have you met with them? So okay, what are your grievances? And this addresses them, and less satisfy that lawsuit, so simply it goes away.

It doesn't really seem a capitalist thing that the pre market that I mean, shouldn't we have let anybody it provides a safe store to be able to sell it.

know it would limit it that. You know, a few months ago when I was testifying, I kind of threw people for a loophole and I said, I think we should deregulate marijuana within five years. Anybody should be able to. I mean, if you can, if you have the money, and you can provide a store that's and process it and grow it properly and under the surveillance of the Cannabis Commission, go at it.

They go out of business, which happens all the time to natural cycle things, or they get successful and they get bought up by bigger fish and eventually, you know, you have a limited number of fish in the market to control everything. So that but that's down the line, and it seems like we're artificially blocking that market right there.

He is Ohio Senator Steve Hoffman on the show on seven hundred WW the good news about this band and how that affects you as if you enjoy the THHC laced beverages like at fifty West, for example, the sunflower products are really good. This is this is going to allow this to continue to occur. So for example at fifty West or any local company around here, they say, listen, our beer sales. Craft beer is kind of it's dwindling's

starting to go down. Numbers are going now. We had peak craft beer, but so many more people now are enjoying these thhcht lays drinks. They're going to still be able to sell them at a bar. The ones with the higher amounts will have to be sold at a carry out correct.

And fortunately, I think what the governor did, and I disagree with holding up the children as a reason why to do this an extreme example, but he did what he set out to do and that has forced the legislature and force the lawmakers in Columbus to act on and do something about this loophole and specifically regulating this product. And I get if government comes in, we need to regulate things, make sure it's safe and fair, and also make sure it's not falling in the hands of the underage.

And that's what regulatory regulatory framework does. I understand that it's just manned the legislature dragging their feet on this thing, and it makes no sense to me because the end result is people wind up losing out. And also, you know, you're making business have to work harder to work around

the slow pace of the government. I understand that fortunately we had in this case the legislature moving forward and saying, okay, we're going to come up with some frameworks here and maybe this will work out for everyone.

did not release the money to the locals. So over the last almost two years, they haven't gotten the money, and so this bill would keep that intact and then given a mechanism to release the money. It would also add a ten percent tax on a HMP product. If that's constitutional. Uh, we're still working through that because you're not allowed to tax things from out of that come from out of state at a higher rate, and you at tax your own stuff as a federal law. So we'll see if that that'll work.

enjoy that. Of course, there's other brewers and manufacturers that do this locally, and God bless them because I like when people make money. It makes them make pay taxes and everybody's happy, especially when it's something leisurely and a vice like drinking an adult beverage. So this doesn't require those companies, the cannabinoid manufacturers to have sales toritories for distributors,

kind of like alcohol distribution. Does that limit market efficiency and competition or is that like, hey, we do this for alcohol, so it would be fair to do it to these products as well.

They would be more efficient to load their truck up at their factory and drive to those places rather than to take that truck to the distributor, which might be in Middletown and then that truck will then disperse thing to it. Certainly wouldn't be as efficient and probably cost effective. So because it's they tend to be more on the smaller scale. That's certainly not the Budweisers that are doing it, all right.

to agree with the current form. I think probably in the next two or three weeks, you know, certainly before Thanksgiving, we will sit down and uh take the good on both sides and come up with something that both of us in the industry can is reasonable to be safe and have an efficient industry here in the state of Lahar.

But if you know drinking a THHC infused seltzer is not your joy, well it certainly is someone else's, and damn it. As an American, as an Ohioan, I want to fight and make sure and I know you do too, that that people can do that and enjoy that, provided they're twenty one or older and doing it responsibly. All the best to you, my friend. Thanks again, you take care of that. Take care. I say more intoxicating beverages, edibles, tintures, vapes, et cetera, not less. I'm on the pro chemical yoga

side of life. Wear I'm a little eye voted sticker. Look, we got to get a news update. And why do we enjoy adult beverages and other things that make us relaxed? Well, because of real life Streussors. Biggest stress or we're facing in Cincinnati, of course, is what the hell is happening with crime and the police chief? And how is this whole thing handled by the way, I say not well, I would say horribly by this administration. Julie Bouki, our career,

Shirpa spent a lifetime in HR. She knows all how this stuff should work, and when it doesn't work, she pokes holes in it. She's going to do that. Next. It's Julie on the job, Scott's loan seven hundred wl WT.

business regarding the safety of Cincinnati. Now what in burgent business I was w No one knows because there's really nothing happening. Wasn't a shoe like we had a Fountain Square. We had the Thursday night occurrence, but that was still being investigated. It wasn't like a big mass casually event

she had to come back for thank god. And immediately it got out that well, they're going to fire her, and then it turned into a paid administrative leave and there were no answers coming from city Hall relative to well, what did she do or did she not do that caused her her job essentially, and she's hanging limbo. She's not been fired, she's still unpaid leave, although we have an interim chief that's in the fact right now and

the end results are paying her. We had her attorneys speak live on the radio yesterday at ten am about what was transpiring that she actually had. There was no cause to do this whatsoever. She was always never really anything bad in her record of thirty five years law enforcement. She's the chief. We have a crime spree. But is that relative to the policy set forth by this administration and raft at pure vault or is that Chief Thigi to the point where what does chief Interim Chief Henny

get you? That Chief Thiji doesn't get you, and no one can answer that question. It is a clustered and a dumpster fire and a tire fire all in one. Julie Balk, Welcome back. Good to have you on. Julie on the Job, our career SHIPA who is a licensed professional in the state of human resources. How are you?

in terms of everybody has a stake. When you really think about there's the community, there's the government, there's the FOP, there's you know, the police officers, there's there's all these different constituencies, the media, in the fact that we do have an election for mayor coming up in two weeks,

there's all of those things. It's almost like they just get thrown into a caldron using a Halloween theme and stirred up and so there are there's so much we don't know here what we do know is that the crime problem, whatever your perception of it is, is never just the fault of one person. But when you are the leader of an organization, of an organization, you will all you will often take the slings and arrows, whether

you are beloved by your group or not. That's just the nature of being in a high level position, in a high level position, in a high visibility role, where there are so many different people with stakes in it. And it's you know, I was reading a bunch of stuffs and watching a bunch of videos this morning in preparation for this and was reminded that the city is still in an ongoing dispute with the past fire chief. Yep, and that's been continuing.

wait for your name to be called. You bring everybody in one big cattle call and fire group of people. That's in humane as well. There's no real good way to do this. But the way this whole thing is handled, because it's in the public eye, it's the government that technically works for us because the people are the government a lot. I'm safe to say every man and woman who's following the story is not pleased at how it's been handled so far. So this is a different thing.

And then, as you mentioned, politics are involved here too, because in an election coming up, how does this help have to add peerval to get re elected or doesn't it. I think he thinks he's got in the bag. It really doesn't matter. I'm just curious to see what happens at this point. Let's get into that, Julie. If you're on Terry's team, Terry Thiji, what are you going to get out of this? You're not going to get your job back, are you.

that falls under the city manager. And so what what are you trying to get out of this? I don't get the sense. And this is just me kind of reading between the lines, which is a little dangerous, but is that it's not about she's trying to get some big severance package. It's about I am being targeted for something that is not that of course I have some

responsibility for, but it's not entirely my responsibility. There are when you look at these problems that have come up, And I just want to say that last night I lived downtown and last night I was out walking around and it was dark, and I was down by Fountain Square and I saw no less than twelve police officers, no less. I was counting them, which then made me say, Okay, we know there's a staffing shortage. We know where are they not showing up where they need to be showing up?

And so I'm very sympathetic to It's not her fault. It's not the officers on the street. They can't be everywhere at once. It's not all the mayor's fault. There's a lot of responsibility that lies in the home and with the community. And any time you have something like this that's such a hot potato, you've got Corey Bowman, the other candidate for MA chiming in. It's it's almost like, and I hate to say this, but in almost every situation, even in a corporate situation, someone is going to take

the fall. Is it right, No, of course not, but it is. It is what it is. And I was thinking about this because when I back when I was in HR, we had this guy who he has passed away. So I always feel like I can tell the story. Really he ran the department, and he was just a massive creep, like Harvey Weinstein creep, and everybody knew it's but his numbers were really good, his results were really good, and so nobody everyone was like, uh huh, huh, huhuh

when you try to say, here's what's going on. And he was supposed to lose Cannon in so many different ways, and nobody wanted to hear it because the train was running on the tracks at least from a results point. The minute the train started go off the tracks, he became and I Meannumber one and he was fired. I'm like, Okay, you're the same guy doing the same creepy thing today that you were yesterday. But now all of a sudden, you know it's a problem. And so when you know so,

it's it's human nature. Whether you're in the police department or Kroger or anywhere, look at look at the top. Person is always in the crosshairs. And you know, I was reading through all these things, listening to people's comments, people in the community, and there's a lot of support for her in the community talking about her policing style. But I also saw some videos from you know, our buddy Ken Cober talking about his fondness for the interim chief,

Adam Henny. So that availed message that says, wow, we're so glad to have Adam Henny because maybe the leader the rank and file in the FOP didn't respect her as a leader, and the city saying ineffective leadership. And so if you're going to lead with that as a as a reason, then You've got to be able to back that up when this goes to court, because it will.

and say okay, it's now Adam Henny. That's another thing is why prolong this?

Let's just pull this out of the air, because that's what we've got in front of it. What does that look like? What does due process look like? My opinion of it might be very different from yours. So is that review of all of the reasoning and the evidence bipartisan committee? Is that a period of time in which people get to get their act together, like maybe sixty days, where people can gather their thoughts. So what is the purpose?

There has to be a purpose. I don't know if they thought when she was being put on paid administrative lead that she would quit, but they had to know that this was coming no big surprise. And so from a strategy standpoint, if you're in the city, you have to get in the room home with all the people who have their fingers in this and say, okay, so what does the contract say? Are we living by the terms of the contract? And do we generally operate?

you got to get her to sign an NDA. And as you know, NDAs can be costly because if you're cheap thieves, you probably know some things and have evidence that are going to make the administration namely share long the city and most likely have to appear of all but others. You've got some dirt there, and and to make people like this shut up, you got to cut them a big check. So the question is, Julie, how big a check are we talking? And am I wrong about that analysis?

future holds. You're probably scared to death. That's they've got you in a vulnerable position, which is terrible from a negotiation standpoint. But isn't this like just like a contract negotiation, the NDA period where you know, if you sign this, we'll give you your your two week severance right now. Don't sign the check that you can negotiate all that, can't you?

a non compete. But then there's also a lot of times an NDA, which means you're not going to run over to even if you don't go work for a competitor, you're not going to call them up and say, hey, I got a bunch of company secrets here I'm going to share with you. So those are to me, especially if NDA is very reasonable. Now when and clause it. Now, again, I'm not an attorney. This is just based on you know,

to what I've seen. When you say, when you say so, then they'll they'll look at if I said no non compete for two years, does that interfere with your ability to make a living? And in a lot of cases it does. Two years is too long. So NDA they had in it a non disparagement clause which says you

will not speak ill of this company. And a lot of big companies, a lot of women back when all this me too stuff was going on was really coming out, they got big payouts and they find an NDA they would not dispair it.

ready for them. If not, you just have a dumpter fire.

Julie Balkie, Julie on the job every Wednesday morning. She's at the Buki Group b a UK career coach and Consultants b a UK is how you spelled her name by the barkiegroup dot com. She got a whole team ready to go to work for you. Have a great week. We'll talk next Wednesday. By then we probably still won't have this thing settled. We'll talk about it one more. We'll just read we'll just rehash this for the next three wednesdays to decide what they're doing. Fair enough, be well,

take care, thank you. Got to get to a news update. It's a Scott Sloan show on the home of the Best Bengals coverage Ring of Honor Week in Cincinnati on seven hundred wwant to It's Scott's Looning on seven hundred WWN streaming on the iHeartRadio app. Make sure you take us through the gowhere we are. We're there with you, We got you, we got you. All right, Fiji Talk. We continue that and that has really overshadowed things for most of the week, at least this early half of

the week. But we also have other things going on, trouble brewing here on It's been kind of going on well for the last few days here, starting last week. I'm not kind of Republican Dave Young's office is investigating the image of an American flag with the stripes bent to form of swastika. I'm sure you saw the images by now that was caught in Cameron a zoom meeting

in this congressional staffer's office. So next to the shutdown, this political scandal is kind of consuming Washington, not just what it's going on in Dave Young's office, but the what almost three thousand pages of leak chats revealing that the leaders and the Young Republicans traded a bunch of pretty horrific words and statements which they thought would never make the eye of public, the light of public eye,

seeing the light, so to speak. It was in chambers, and it was in a chat group, and yet we've seen stuff like this leak out before. The problem is, again, it just if you're you know, don't like the GOP, you don't like Republicans, you don't like Trump, this just gives you more ammo to hate on them, and you wonder what the reaction of is this whole thing. You've got some of these GOP Young GOP chapters disbanding within

hours because of this. And I know the Vice President Jade Vance brushed it off as kids being edgy, but there's some bipartisan outrage out there, and when you have bipartisanship in a divided government, that says a lot. Her name is Victoria Churchill. She's a political reporter for dailymail dot Com. First broke the key details of this story. She's also writes your young voices Victoria, welcome, how are.

least not most of them. Most of them have jobs, some of them pull elected office, other serve as very secret positions or other elective members or you know, I guess it's before they were fired resigns, however you want to frame that they are no longer the position. And I think that's the very key part of this is because when we compare this as the Vice President did, which you know, I think is more or less a fair comparits, and comparing this to the J. Jones Tech

candle that we're dealing with in Virginia. I love in Virginia. I covered some Virginia politics. Of course. That was the Democrat candidate for attorney general. He had some text messages revealed that he, you know, wished death not only on his opponent Ben Todds, Speaker or then House Speaker Todd Gilbert, the Republican Speaker of the House in a couple of years ago in Virginia, but also on his children, which you know, to me, that's even more disgusting if you

can even grade that kind of thing. But you know, again, j Jones is still running for office, and he's been backed up by senior Democrats. But I believe both of our US senators in Virginia, Kim Kaine, Mark Warner, they're really egging him on. They're saying, yeah, the text are bad, but they still want this man to hold elected office.

On the Republican side, Republicans have come out and said, these people are not representative of our party, the place in leadership, if the thing at all, because a lot of the times your Republican chasters, like I said, you know, a lot of them hold elected office or work for elected officials, but even more of them. You know, it's supposed to be kind of a talent pipeline for Republican

leaders of Publican candidates all over the country. Really, and you know, I think that that's part of why the story is so big, is that you have dangerous ideologies on both sides. That of course, I'm all for free speech, right, but you know, I think in a free speech situation, this is actually better because people can speak, really, and then people can judge these individuals that say things that you know, I personally find morally reprehensible, abhorrent all those things.

or Kirk's assassination, how is this any different? And so I think when that happens on both sides, as you mentioned, I think the rest of the electorate, most of us go, well, if you're not going to change it, we can't change it either. And it's just the latest insult I suppose to our sensibilities and tolerances, and we're I don't see it getting better. I just see this being more of the same.

out is to have these pervations. Now kind of on the flip side, Actually, some of my reporting that I did on the text method scandal was that, at least by the evidence that I've seen and that my colleagues put into that store, these texts were actually coerced. And so you know, there may have been some very shady kind of back room feeling. You know, one of the individuals he has come out with illegal off of David, which is available. You know that he was basically coerced

into releasing these text messages. And you know, again I think that's the other side of it, which we should also talk about, is that doing it is one thing, which again I denounced wholeheartedly, but coercing somebody to get that information out is so in my view not Okay.

That feels like the reason why someon would say this is because either they are outed or discovered, or someone had some information inside and knew this was going on and basically wanted to expose in blackmail them in a way. Is that kind of what you're talking about.

are horrible in doing that. But again, I think the blackmail that led to the release of these text messages and that you know, in our digging, we found out that actually these text messages got out in August and there was effort within the GOP to you know, stem if not completely, kind of nullify the release of these because it seems to me, again at least based on my reporting that I've done, that it was really a

personally motivated attack from one individual to another. One individual described this, you know, kind of as a vendetta that the person who either directly or indirectly you lead these

messages was responsible for. And you know, again, that kind of raises the question of you know, who do you trust, who do you trust to go out and have conversations with, because you never know when not a person might stab you in the back and release saying you know again, of course I personally think that they should have never been said in the first place. But Wellori is also pretty discossed.

lot of vile things on there. When you start talking about you know, calling Generation Z Generation icon and one staff or from a i think New York State and Assembly Member's chief of staff got fired for saying I love Hitler, and then everyone one that votes know on this particular bill is going to the gas chamber. And there are far worse things in there that I can't repeat. And there's some threads you look at you go, wow,

that's that's pretty harsh. But out of those twenty eight thousand, I'll back up a second, because I think that Assembly member, that chief of staff and others are going, well, I'm not even sure I said that. I think it might have been doctored or altered that some of the claims going on. Is that revisionism or is there some possible basis in reality in that it sounds like we're going, no, that didn't really It sounds like my pillow guy kind of talk, you know what I mean.

I think they've been pretty forward about that. And you know, even an information that's come back since then, allegedly a text message leaks between the reporter that was working on this story and the individual you know again who I believe is responsible for getting this information out. You know, like I said, whether directly or indirectly, those actual images are recreations. And so I don't know if out of twenty thousand messages, if they are direct recreations, gotcha.

me by a grassroots group at activin Virginia. They had been out get out the Vote text messages about the JJ's text scandal to what they identified as a universe of soft Democrat voters, and they got death threats to the Republicans back to those Jajones text messages, and we did a story recreuitting those responses that they got, so again kind of in itself out as the area. And you know, yeah, if we've recreated text messages, they've recreated

text messages with that nasty text messages. It's all. It's all, you know, there's definitely a lot of thinking to be out a bit.

the other way around? Because nothing's happening in DC that people are paying attention to this.

You know ballants that are being cast for these candidates right now, and again, you know, these individuals that were involved in the Younger lookin Tech scandal, they also are people that serve in positions that are politically important, whether that's in their home states in New York or their

places around the country. So, you know, in terms of national media attention, I'm not sure if they would have gotten that much, but in terms of importance, and you know, kind of my background before I became reporter, I actually worked in grassroots and so I've personally always been of the mindset that what happens in grassroots is very important for the future of our nation, for the future of our country, and for the future of both political parties,

and so in my reporting, I actually have a tendency to share those grassroots stories that not many other reporters, particularly in dec he even actually think is worth paying attention to. Sure and you know, again, just just another quick note on that, Actually this political story was done by two reporters out of New York. So that's another interesting kid bit that I kind of found is that, you know, it also concerns a lot of things in

DC nationally. But the reporter that kind of interacted with this individual, who you know again I believe is the alleged leaker, They are a New York political reporter. And then the secondary reporter that was on that story is the head of all of politicals covering Sport, New York.

message scandal. Chris's conspective. Claremont County Republican Dave Young's office where there's a swastika an American flag with a stripture bet to form of swastika behind this individual caught on camera and that's in a staffer's office, and he said, well, we're gonna investigate this and find out what's really going on, which tells me this is more lot. Let's see which

way the wind blows politically speaking, because that's how politics works. Victoria, looking forward, do you think the scandal is going to lead to change and how maybe not the GOP but the Dems too, because it's not like they're their poop doesn't stink in this either, not with this case, but on others. Is this Are we just going to get more of the same. I don't really feel like people are outraged over this.

to be seen. And you know, for me as a reporter, I'm very interested in reporting on the feature of this because again, a lot of these this runtors that I've seen, you know, again, even particulately about day Jones and not condemning him, I think is outwardly as some Democrats could have been should have been my personal view, I think to me that means that they learn nothing from the car right, yeah, or the.

But again, you've got to be smarter than putting your words down and telegram or whatever the the app of the platform is, because if somebody sees that a later date, well you're going to have what's going on right here? Victoria, all the best, thanks for joining the show. I appreciate it.

They should. It's more of the stupidity is what it is, than anything, and also just the the nature of the conversations themselves are not only cringey, but extremely extremely wrong. For that matter, for anyone who professes their love of country, I want to lead this nation, even if they were

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