Trusting Your Gut with Dane Johnson

Well, hello ladies and gents. Robert Sykes, Keto savage.com. Today I've got special guest Dane Johnson on the line. He has suffered tremendously from IBD Crohn's colitis and he has made it his life's mission to not only improve his own health and vitality, but that of countless others. So we dove into exactly what he has suffered from, how that's impacted his life, how it's manifested him throughout his upbringing and when he turned the corner and was able to

totally shift his mindset. But talk quite a bit about mindset in this one, which I'm always I always enjoy talking about mindset because that truly shapes the foundation for everything going forward. And then we kind of really dope deep into how to have proper gut health, what to do to, you know, set the stage for proper micro biodiversity. How you can adjust your nutrition.

How there's so much discourse and honestly dogmatic thinking when it comes to nutrition and how there's not A1 size fits all approach, especially as it pertains to Crohn's colitis and IBD. So we dive deep into a rabbit

hole on that. Some of the protocols and processes that he's implemented with his client base to find improvement there and just what he's doing as a movement going forward to make this information more accessible, to empower others to build a community and they just help people that are dealing with Crohn's colitis and IBD and he is changing lives one day at a time. So I thoroughly enjoy the conversation. I've got no doubt that you will take something from this without further delay.

Sit back, relax, enjoy the podcast with Dane Johnson and we are live. Dane, how are you, man? Good man. Thank you so much for having me. Thanks for everyone who who's here. I hope I can change as many lives as possible with the time we have. Bring integrity, bring truth, bring enlightenment into how we can take our lives back from these chronic issues in the gut. Thanks for having me. Hey man, I'm excited to be chatting with you.

So I I want to be enlightened here myself because I have family and friends that have suffered, suffered from Crohn's IBD, and that's not something I've dealt with personally, but it totally has rocked your world. So I'd love for you to kind of just peel the curtain back on what that is exactly and how it impacts people. Yeah. So IBD inflammatory bowel disease is chronic inflammation in the GI tract. And based on where it is, the doctors might call it different

things. But besides that chronic inflammation, conventional medicine doesn't know what's causing it. So there's there's layers to that cause. But really the conversation, if you really dumb down the conversation for a lot of us who've had it and I nearly died of it and went on every biologic steroid antibiotic you can go on went to UCLA, Cedar Sinai, Mayo Clinic family spent thousands of dollars.

The the the thing we were hearing at the end is you have ulcerative colitis or Crohn's disease. I was diagnosed with both. You're going to have it for the rest of your life. We don't know what's pushing this inflammation your body, but we have antibiotics, steroids and lifelong biologics that we can use to combat it and that's it. And if those don't work, we need to get the knife out and start removing removing body parts here. Yeah, that's definitely not

everywhere. Not where people want to go if they can help it. Yeah. And. And you were diagnosed with this at what age? I was diagnosed around 2223. I started getting blood in the stool at 19. Obviously at 19 years old, you're not running home telling your mom and dad that there was some a crime scene in the

toilet. So you know, and I was in college, I went to school of College of Charleston, SC, was raised in Virginia, and I lived all over New York, Miami, spent a little time in Europe, been living in Orange County, California for 10 years or other than Santa Monica for a while. And I live in California with my wife and two kids, so I've lived

all over. But you know, when I was 19, we were going to Gamecocks games, drinking beers, seeing who could throw down more weight and get gain more weight to go lift weight. You know, I was a good old boy and I did not want, you know how it is. You don't want to give up the lifestyle. You don't want your friends to look at you different. You want to be able to go out to the bars and have a drink with

your buddies. Especially when you're in college, you don't want to worry about things, You just want to live. And so this was very difficult for me. It was. I was not someone who was interested in a diet. I wasn't interested in learning functional medicine. I wasn't interested in, in really becoming, leading, being the leader of my health. I want to outsource it. All right, fine. Give me the doctor. Tell me what do I got to do? Take this.

Great. You know, I was conditioned, like most people, thinking, all right, I got a problem, Go to the doctor. He's going to jab me or something. And then that will be that. And I can go on because all my faith and all the family's faith was just go to the doctor. They're the smart ones. What do we know? And that led me down. A lot of pain, that mindset. A lot of pain. But that pain turned to purpose. That's why we're here.

What when, when you were going through this at 19, noticing the blood and stool and then diagnosed short thereafter, like, how was this impacting your day-to-day? Like was it affecting what you could stomach, what you can keep down, how you able to, you know, go through your activities day-to-day? Like what was? What was the manifestation of that? So I think something that I I really want other people to

know. Especially all my my guys out there who love to lift weights and throw down you know one to one body weight of protein. I was taking a ton of whey protein from GNC and I think that did mess up my colon. I was having some reactions foul smelling gas at back acne. I was also taking tons of pre workout with all that caffeine. I think that shot my adrenals and affected my immune system

and my nervous system. I was taking really poor creatine and you know I was eating McDonald's and pizza and and whatever trying to put on weight. I was thinking macros only. So I think that that affected my health for sure. And it was when I was going really intense in the gym that I first saw the blood. Then I took time off, calm myself down. I took some time off drinking and and and I just naturally started cleaning up my plan because I was also gaining a few

pounds. You don't talk about, man, like there's pounds you don't want. Those were starting to come. So I actually was saying, hey, I want to get more in shape. I want to lose some of this body fat. And so I started cutting out some of the greasy, the oily, the beer. And I think that saved me so that when I was 19 it wasn't as big of a deal. My body kind of calmed down. So it kind of came and went like

a lot of us in the beginning. It's kind of like this weird thing that's kind of playing with you. And then it it really manifested in something extreme. Around 2223, I graduated college. I'm $40,000 in debt. I moved back to Virginia. I'm sleeping on my dad's pull out couch because he's newly married in his basement, trying to. And I got a job, you know, I'm, I'm wearing a suit, a tie. I'm sitting under fluorescent lights.

I'm on a computer all day long. I'm reselling reselling Oracle software to the federal government and in out at near Washington DC and so I'm waking up at 5:45 I got an hour commute into work doing my dad's a company man 45 years so I was following suit. He used to laugh he'd be like day one. Meanwhile he's 40 years in I'm looking down the down the pipe. I'm like, this is not, I don't

know if I can do this, man. And so you know, about six months into that of just the commute, no lifestyle, eating trash food because of the restaurants and trying to save money because I'm trying to pay off my debts. I'm sleeping on a crappy couch. I'm not getting good sleep. I'm just stressed. I'm sad. I'm starting to get depressed. I'm living in, you know, Virginia, and none of my friends are around me.

I was living on the beach for four years in CFC and all of a sudden bowel movements are going seven a day, 10A day, 12A day. I can't. I I can hardly make it from my cubicle to the to the to the bathroom. Blood. More blood. I'm wiping. It's it's all red mucus. There's nothing, just a little bit of fecal matter coming out. Not much. And I'm ashamed. I'm scared. I don't know what to do about this and I didn't really want to talk about it.

You know, it's just young guy. So eventually I had to say it because it was so it was getting scary that I had to say something. And, you know, and I did. And then we went to the doctor and I remember I'd go in there, they do a colonoscopy, and this doctor comes out and I'm looking down. At this moment, I don't even remember what the doctor looked like. I just remember looking down. And he's sitting in one of those

little rolly chairs, right? You know, the doctor sits in those little rolly chairs rolling around. And he sits and he goes and he goes, so you have ulcerative colitis. This is something you're gonna have for the rest of your life. And you'll need to start. We need to start you on some medication and that just that's kind of floored me and I don't you know, I don't know how. I mean I didn't really process it. I was just thinking all right Get Me Out of here.

You know give me what you got to give me. Fine. And then that tail spend. By the time I was 20s on my 27th birthday, I was nearly dead. And I I don't want to scare anyone listening to that. I think I went through such an extreme case because I was nothing. I was put on this planet to do something about it and and and bring solutions that I never had. So it just kind of got worse and worse and they put me on Prednisone. So I started on 40 milligrams. Prednisone started tapering

down. Anyone with IBD or autoimmune is going to know what I'm talking about. Prednisone. Then I was put on methacalazine and then I didn't. That one didn't really work well. So they put me on a time release version of Five ASA, which is Layouta. So I'm going on this stuff and I'm still not. I mean, there was nothing like there is today with podcasts and interviews and everyone's knowing this. This is back in 2010, 2011, right around there.

And so I'm just still kind of doing what I want, not not really knowing what to do. Just full faith. Just do what the doctor say. It'll be all right. They say take, you know, four caps twice a day of Liotta. That's good enough. This Prednisone. The Prednisone did help. The steroids did knock out a lot of the symptoms. It's like, oh great, But then you realize you can't stay on the steroids. As you come off, the symptoms come back.

So I was on and off Prednisone for about four years, and Prednisone tears up your body storage mucosal membrane. Your microbiome can cause bone density issues, anxiety, depression, moon phase. You know it. It's it's acne. It's it's it's mess with your sleep. It's nothing to joke with. And when you were going through this, like, did you start to think about alternative routes of functional medicine and pay more mind to your diet and just other lifestyle factors?

Or was it just kind of like a stark contrast from that and just whatever the doctor told you that's what you're going to do? I was just going to do what the doctor told me too. I mean, I'm telling you, I was not. I I didn't. And one thing I'm grateful, I'll say just hindsight to answer that question is I'm grateful for Crohn's and colitis because it made me it it it, it made me to stop being such a slacker and

a corner cutter. You know, like if I was running bases, you know, metaphorically in life, I kind of just kind of just kind of nudge the base. I didn't really go around the base, you know. I just had this natural tendency to want to do it my way, a little arrogant as a young guy. And and then when this came, I didn't really have the discipline or the spiritual strength or the mental fortitude for it. So my natural instinct was just do what the doctor says. He's the doctor.

It was actually my mom when I told her you know and you know how moms are. All my mom's out there. Shout out to you, you're awesome. You're saving lives. Your son and daughter will thank you one day. I promise. And I did because my mom saved my life. I'd be dead without her. She she was the one who was researching. She was finding the book saying read this, do that. We need to start looking at getting rid of it. Gluten. And when she said gluten free and I said, well, what's gluten?

And she said, well, it's been pretty much everything you eat. I had cereal for breakfast, Subway sandwiches. I was a picky eater. You know, I went to McDonald's and Wendy's all the time. I had no money in college, so I spent $5 a meal and it was like, well, that's impossible. This is impossible. So all those people out there, especially all the young cats who just feel natural medicine, is absolutely impossible and absurd. I think we're getting a better understanding nowadays than 15

years ago. But it it just seemed like that. So she couldn't get me. She couldn't get me to do it. She'd go to Whole Foods, spend $600.00 on a bunch of bunch of stuff, have me pop, pop different supplements, like Skittles eating the crappy cardboard cereal with 2% or with coconut milk. You know, I was, I was like, man, this is miserable. And then the thought of having to do this the rest of my life is really what messed me up. That's when I was like this, this is a no go, you know, red

light, we can't do it, you know? I got to do this for the rest of my life. I mean you you drive down the street and any most major states, you drive down the street and it's all processed food. It's all gluten. You know you can't. Are you telling me I can't eat at any of these places supposed to make home cooked meals and do this for the rest of my life? It it was, it seemed, impossible.

And when you would 27 and you said you were near death was that what what was the the breaking point for you to recognize that you were near death was it result of all the medication or the foods that you were eating or what was the the tipping point there? Well, I was 120 lbs. Right now I'm a 190. I'm 19262. I was 122 lbs. I was on a feeding tube. I'd be put on chemotherapy. I was not conscious for days, and the doctors told my parents I might not survive the night.

And I was. My whole family flew in. I had such bleeding, such pain. And I've said this a bunch of times, but the thing that was killing me was I I there was an active virus in my body my immune system could no longer handle. And all the damage to your body, like when you get IBD, it's Elaine. Goshal said this back when she wrote her book that she called it breaking the Vicious Cycle. And it really is a vicious cycle because when you can't absorb nutrients, you become anemic.

You lose the ability to create testosterone. Your immune system becomes weakened. Your microbiome becomes unfunctional. You lose the ability to digest food. Your liver can no longer process toxins. And then it's just you become there's just an opening for death, basically. It's just like a you just it can get so bad. And again I don't want to scare anyone out there if I have, you know I hope you're not going to go through what I what I went through, God willing.

And it's so it just became so vicious that eventually four or five years later where I actually started getting self empowered and got my life back because I was there was a doctor in Florida who had found a little bit of CMV virus, cytomegalovirus which ironically actually kills a lot of immune compromised patients usually who have AIDS.

I didn't have AIDS or any of that an issue, but because I was so immunocompromised, the CMV had taken over my body and that's why they gave me the antiviral and we couldn't prove it because they couldn't find it, my blood or my stool. But there was a a GI specialist in Florida who said he found it in one of one sample out of tons and in one of the colonoscopies I did every hospital went to a colonoscopy.

I did probably seven of them And and he said you got to get this young man out of on an antiviral. And they did and that's when I woke up and that's you know three days later I called my. I was in natural medicine school at the time, so that the the mindset had changed and that's something we could do a whole 2 hours on mindset. I'm very, very big on mindset. You got it. Because what I told you in the beginning with the big problem

was my poor mindset. And then when I started shifting what normal was, got rid of the sacrifices, only, started investing, started journaling, only ate what I cooked, got happy and healthy at the same time. That's the mission, because I was miserable trying to get healthy. And then I was happy being very, very unhealthy. You know that's the problem in college, right? Everything we do, every fun and every fun moment we have. I said, man, what's one of your

best, best memories? Well, you know, before your kids are born or you get married, it's, it's New Year's, it's prom, it's that birthday. And what were you doing? You were eating crap food. You were drinking alcohol. You were smoking something. You were doing dumb stuff. So we tie celebration and excitement and love and our best memories with poisoning ourselves. And that's that's what world I was living in.

So I was very on it was I was very miserable, trying to get healthy, very isolated, very imprisoned. And so yeah, that was big. And by the time I was 27, that was one of the big things. I had a lot of other problems, you know, root, you know, another thing we all like to talk about is root issues. Like, there's this really big argument online where people don't really understand the narrative around this idea of a root cause. You know, people think root causes singular.

And that's where we need to open up today and realize that there is no singular root cause to anything. There are root causes. The body is like a like an engine. It's like a system. It's like it's it's like the ecosystem, OK, everything is connected. If one thing goes awry, it affects everything else. So it's really root issues. I like to say root issues because it doesn't flare people up as much emotionally. What we talk about what is the root cause of IBD? I'll tell you root causes I

found. I found H pylori infection leading to very low stomach acid and lots of ulcers and causing gastritis which I was diagnosed with ulcerative class and gastritis by one hospital. And then secondly is I found large amounts of candida. I found large amounts of candida in my body that the doctors had not found but I found in in my

functional medicine labs. I did a comprehensive quantitative PCR stool analysis and it was like four or five times threshold of normal just sitting there in a non invasive stool analysis I did from home. And that was one example of when I started saying wow, my life's not over. There's so much more here that these genius doctors who are brilliant in their own, in their in their own right, just they didn't, they didn't do that right. They didn't do any of those testings.

They didn't didn't insurance wasn't covering it, those tests. So when I started getting deeply into those tests, I found a lot of different stuff, a lot of different stuff. So I had the CMV virus later on found parasites years later. Parasites I think are a core issue with anyone with a lot of got up issues you have to consider very tough to get rid of. You got to know what you're

doing there. You need to work with someone who really understands biofilms and drainage pathways and then systemic parasites versus local and then and then so I found yeah I found the the viral load and I end up getting a lab with Doctor Armin in Germany where I actually test.

He helped me build a comprehensive IBD viral load panel that we can test in the United or we can do in the United States get the blood and ship it to his lab in Germany which is the most high integrity lab I found for viral load testing. And to this day, I mean we've we've worked with thousands of people with IBD and I'd say with the people we test, we have about a 60% rate of positive current active viral load infection in IBD clients. Man, it's crazy how. Crazy is that dude.

It's unfortunate because all of this comprehensive testing that people suffering from this would ideally need to go through so they can actually have those metrics and have a plan of action going forward is not everywhere to the frontline. Defense, when you go to traditional Western medicine clinics, I mean that they're just going to push the antibiotics on you, which is? Are likely going to do more harm than good in the long term. Yeah.

And just to put perspective that gave me peace around the doctors is you've got 360 million Americans. You only have so many GI doctors, so many hospitals. The cost of all this is massive. Insurance pays the GI doctor to spend 5 minutes with you. That's what insurance pays. OK. Beyond that, it's it's it's just the doctor's time. He's he's seeing some of the doctors I've worked with and just sitting down with them one-on-one and having really, you know, just clear, safe

conversations. They're seeing 120 clients a week or patients a week. When when I was my business, I was dealing with adrenal fatigue and I was pushing myself way too hard. And in my own business, I was working up and when I was doing a lot of private coaching few years ago, I was seeing about 45 people a week. I was helping out with with Crohn's Colitis and I was, I was absolutely destroyed. I mean, I could. I was forgetting people's names. It was too much.

That was 45. That's not even half what these doctors are seeing. So the system's broken. It's not a scalable system to truly help people in health. You can't, you can't spend 5 minutes with someone. You can't give people a generic protocol. You can't just throw drugs at it. And there's there's the system's broken. But another thing is, and I have to call everyone out, Listen right now, is that your mindsets broken on not taking accountability for your own health?

Somewhere along the line, we got in our head that we should outsource our health. That was the dumbest move we could have done. Yeah, I really want to dive into that because I think that is a is something that plagues a lot of people. I used to be plagued by that. I would just assume that first of all, I didn't realize how much of an impact what I ate every single day would truly do to my health. I feel like there's a disconnect there, people. It's strange, man.

We eat every single day that that compounded over a lifetime, is going to have a monumental impact on our health and longevity. But people have this massive disconnect between what they eat and the expectations of how their bodies can respond to what they eat.

So that needs to be resolved. But then to think that you should not take your own health into your own hands, and that you should outsource that, and that you shouldn't spend the time and the resources and the effort figuring things out. Personally, I mean, no one's going to be a bigger advocate for your own health than you, so having that shift is key. We almost need more church on that.

Just just more conversations to release the the false reality that it's not our responsibility and that somehow this isn't the most important thing, That somewhere around the line our career or our social life or our relationships are going to take precedence over our self empowerment, our training and our conditioning of of health, personal development, I don't know. Go ahead well. I was going to say that was the hardest thing for me to learn.

See, I nowadays I tell people they say, what were you diagnosed with? I said I'm diagnosed with purpose, Sir. I like that. I'm diagnosed with purpose. I'm not going to No one puts a stamp on my forehead. But me. You said I have a problem, and I did have a chronic problem, and I had to rewire what was normal. I had to rewire my relationship with food, with the planet, with people, with social life, with women, with what the man I saw in the mirror.

Everything had to be redone. It was the best thing that ever happened to me. Now, if I hadn't rewired myself and I hadn't put in those years of work, could have been the worst thing that ever happened to me. But that's the irony of life. Something that can be so bad has the could the opposite energy be that good? OK, for one type of energy there has to be its opposite. So for an extreme energy of negativity, there has to be an extreme positivity law of relativity.

Yeah, I totally agree. I feel like a lot of, a lot of the clients that I've worked with over the years that are struggling with some form of disease or diagnosis like it, it's it's a headache, it's a hindrance, It's it's impacted them and they don't have as many options or they have to be more specific and strategic and how they go about their food

preparation. But it forces them to look in the mirror and put forth effort where someone that never had those issues would likely just skate by, you know, just barely touching those bases, as you said earlier. So I think it's kind of like a hidden blessing so to speak. And I feel like, as you said, you you can choose what energy you want to associate with anything. I'm I'm big into Stoicism. You you that much into Stoicism. Have you looked into that? A bit, yeah, a bit.

Yeah, the the basic. But I think it. Is is basically you. You can't control all the environmental factors, but you can control how you react and respond to them like that is in complete control.

And you know, with something like this, I feel like you have the perfect opportunity to take what you've been given and either make the most of it, let it be empowering, let it be a positive sense of identity around you that you can use to help others that may be going through something similar, or you can let it totally debilitate you and derail you, and everyone has that choice. And and then if you do go left in that equation and it does break it down, which is OK,

broke me down for time. There's always tomorrow. Are you going to stay down? Because you can wake up and change that energy. You can be down for 20 years and change that's the beauty of life you know. And and to not changes the continued decision that I am defeated. That I'm a victim and I was, I was a victim. I'm sure you had a similar time. I had months of I'm a victim. This is terrible what has happened to me. I resent God.

I resent the the doctors. I resent, you know, my my family, resent the, the, everything because this is not fair to me. Yeah. And and that's kind of, I think a little bit part of my upbringing because if it wasn't my fault, it wasn't my responsibility. Growing up, that was my child, childlike mentality. It's not my fault. It's his fault. It's her fault. Teacher didn't say this, law didn't say that. It's not my fault. I'm not going to deal with it.

And that's where I had to take accountability and say, you know what? It's not my fault I got Crohn's class. I didn't do anything to deserve this. But it is my responsibility to fix it. Stop the doctor's. Stop my mama's. It's mine.

I feel like the the moment you accept full responsibility for everything in your life, even if it's not your fault, Just simply having this extreme sense of ownership in life, while it may be very hard, is incredibly empowering to reap what you sow and just simply have that ownership towards it all I'm at. I'd rather have that the alternative any day of the week. Boom. That's it. That's the pop. That's where your whole life changes. When you can get that.

That's why I might talk about mindset and we could go over it for hours, but that's that's when my life changed right there. That was it. 100% man. And so many people, they just, they don't have that. But that is something that you're not really born with. You have to learn that. And I think you learn that through doing hard things. You do that. You learn that through achieving something positive on the other side of an obstacle, A seemingly insurmountable obstacle.

But if you do that enough times, you recognize that you can truly overcome anything. But some people play it safe, and they don't allow themselves. They don't give themselves permission to do those hard things and they never build that confidence in knowing that they can do those hard things. And and and in there becomes this acceptance that some suffering is needed to achieve your goals, your desires, or become the best version of yourself. Yeah. No, it's an ingredient and and

it really will. It's like a phoenix out of the ashes. It can change you and it changed me. And then from there once you start deciding there, then the the, the next things you have to deal with are how do I not get overwhelmed, How do I put something in play that I can be consistent with, right. If you're going to learn anything in life that you're saying like I'm convicted to learn how to play the piano, I'm convicted to be great at jujitsu.

I'm convicted to lose 300 lbs. I'm convicted. To get rid of this cancer, this IBD. You got to start with something you can be consistent with and that you can learn from. No journey in life is linear. But because it's not linear, we get overwhelmed because we're also, again, conditioned that, OK, I'm going to do it now tell me exactly what to do. Well, it's not that easy. Oh, it's going to take months, maybe years. You got to be ready. That's a journey.

You got to connect with people on that journey. You got to have community. You got to have these types of conversations now to bring you back up. And I'll say to you right now, if you've been down, you're listening right now, No more breathe in that air. Look at that sun. Get your feet in that grass and you start saying those affirmations. I am the CEO of my health. I am going to become happy and healthy. At the same time, I define my

reality. No one else decides whether I'm sick or sad, what I can and cannot do. This is my life. I'm present. I'm here. Now look around, soak it all in. Bring in that positive energy and start sharing it. Focus on solutions. Stop telling people your problems. Start telling them potential solutions. That's another thing would change. I started, people started asking me how you doing? I was trying to relearn how to walk. I was housebound for a year.

I I couldn't get out of my bed for three months. Man, I I had shameful stuff, man. I all of it. I mean, I pooped my pants 100 times. I couldn't. I couldn't dress myself. My mother was holding a steel pan under my my butt so I could poop out blood and water. Been there, man, Let it go, let it go and say those affirmations and stop telling people, oh, this is so bad and so bad, that

was me for months. And then all of a sudden I said, you know what, I'm tired of being sick and I'm tired of being unhappy because those two go to go, go together like white and rice. I'm going to get happy even if I'm not healthy yet. I'm going to be. I'm going to stop being sick energetically. Stop acting sick. Get dressed, shave, take a shower, put on the Bob Marley, open the curtains, cook yourself some breakfast. Get outside. I could hardly walk. I was outside.

One day. I'll tell you something about how much this my mind changing this equation. I'm in the gym 24 days in a row. Mom calls me up and I'm in California. My parents live in Virginia and South Carolina. Right. So I'm 3000, some odd miles away. Dane, how you doing? Are you OK? You know, 'cause I almost died. So they're, you know, they're wondering if they need to come back and keep living with me.

But they had jobs and lives, you know, so I couldn't keep holding having them just live with me. And I didn't want to leave my life in California because that was my hope, my life. I didn't want to move back in with mom. I was 27, so. And she goes, what are you doing? I said, I'm out the gym. She goes, you've been to the gym a lot. I said, yeah, 27 days in a row. And she said, what the heck are you doing? Going to the you going to get yourself sick? What are you doing?

I said, I said, Mom, you don't get it. Just me getting to the I'm not even working out. Just going to the gym and being around other healthy people, other optimistic people, other people hit. Going after their goals makes me feel better. I'm writing. I was. I was housebound for a year, but I started having a routine. I'm going to the gym at 11:00 AM. I weigh 133 lbs. I had a cane. I remember there was a trainer working with an elderly lady on a machine. A back row machine.

And then they got off and I sat down right behind her and I tried to lift her weight and I was like, Nope. It's humbling. Man, it's something you got to laugh at. Man, you got to laugh. At that point, you're like, Nope, I used to bench 315. Nope, That's too. That's too much, you know? Grandma's looking back at me lightweight, you know? So I said I I found. I found a way to laugh again. I found a way to thank God again. I found a ready to. As I said, I focus on solutions.

Mom compos up and she goes, how you doing? I said, Mom, I only had 12 bowel movements yesterday. I was having eighteen last week. That's a win. That's a win. That's a win. That's, AW, I'm delusional about it, optimistic. I'm not going to sit here and tell you problems. If I tell you a problem, I'm going to tell you a solution. If I'll tell you something what's wrong, I'm going to tell you something, right. And that I did that. Just that all clicked with me when I decided to stop being

sick. And it wasn't easy. What was that? I'm 37 now. 37 This is a bit of a macro question, but do you feel like as a whole, we as a society have moved closer towards this sense of empowerment and self responsibility and taking ownership as a generations have gone by. Are we moving away from that? I don't ever want to play this like next. Like, you know, when you're older, you're like, man, these kids these days.

And I'm 32, I mean, I'm not that much younger than you, but like I look at generations, you know, preceding me and then before me, after me. It's like it's easy to get caught in this thinking. You know, because you know how you, how things were when you were growing up and how things are now for you. And you look at people older than you, look at people younger than you.

But if you were to just take a pulse on what your overall vibe is with us as a society, do you think we're moving in the right direction towards that? Is that more common than not or is that drifting away? I would say First off at the SAY, I think my opinions bias because as we as I created that reality, I live in that reality and I speak that reality into existence everywhere. I have a new sense of normal. Anyone around me is going to be get inspired to live like me.

No one inspires me to live like them. If you aren't happier and healthier than me, I'm inspiring you. You're not inspiring me. If you're happier and healthier than me, you, you inspire me. I don't care how rich you are. I don't care how many Instagram followers you are. I don't care if you're not happier and you're not healthier. Nope. So I think in that bias, I would say we're going in the right direction because I get around

people. You know, I just got back from Cancun last night, and I was in Europe a little while ago, and I've been able to travel and do these things. And then people will hear my story and they'll see pictures and all this thing to hear what I do. And people get so inspired about what what is possible and they start telling about their problems. Even if you weren't chronically sick with IBD, it's all very

similar. This person's got anxiety, ADHD, They got a family member with lupus Ms. autism. They've got severe acne. I'm sitting down, especially a lot of the females, I think are really moving forward and I think they're bringing more of the male community. I think the keto carnivore is bringing in a little bit more male dominant, especially a lot of our fitness athletes. And I think there's good momentum there.

And I think because there's so much talk of it online, and most people, most young people, millennials are getting their News Online. We're not watching, you know, CNN, Fox News anymore, right? We're online. And it's being said over and over again. And you got people like Danny, Dana White going keto, doing intermittent fasting, saying it's the best thing you ever did. You have CS present. You know, I think there's a huge movement where everyone's going,

yeah, this is there. There's so much more than what the doctors are saying. I don't want to take medication. You know, this acne, this weight, this weight issue.

I've seen a lot of women say they, you know, the skin issues, the bloating, the gas, the low energy, low libido happening, fertility issues and then everyone's starting to take more supplements, cut out gluten, gluten free restaurants, organic restaurants are becoming more rampant around the United States and we have a lot of problems in a long way to go.

But I think that light is is shining greater and there's so much more information, 10 times more information and possibilities than than when I was chronically sick and and you know, 10-10 years ago. Yeah, no, I agree. I think there's certainly an abundance of information. There's options, there's opportunities out there. I hope you're right too. You know, I, I I like to have an optimistic view towards it and I feel like, I don't know, man like. I Well, me and you are going to

make it happen. That's right. And anyone out here listening is already on the team. Guys, we're all together on this. Let's win together. That's another thing about all of that I want to say real quick, is is capitalism business? You know, whether you eat plants, you eat meat. We have more in common. We don't need to take advantage of each other. We don't need to sell each other crap. We don't need to give each other a hard time.

If someone wants to eat more plant, if someone wants to eat more animal. Plants and animals are symbiotic and you can learn more towards one or the other. And we can talk about that. And there's, there's good information there, you know, But we all wanted just a better world and we all want to eat clean food and we all want to be healthy. That's what really matters. And in and in business we can do it right.

Conscious capitalism, we can bring things that are good for the earth, good for the customer. Who says, man, I'm so happy I did this and good for businesses to to stay afloat and not get, not get destroyed by things like COVID and AD tax policies and things like that. You know, the world's changing. The Internet has changed the world. This is all happening because the Internet online businesses are changing the world.

All those businesses that went on with COVID predominantly amount of them were the mom and pop businesses in our cities. So how do we protect ourselves online business, I mean a lot of us are doing, doing business across seas or or communicating through the Internet. So I think there's this new way of living that as long as we keep adapting and growing and treating each other right and being good listeners for each other, I think we all can win. I agree.

I think there is certainly an underlying sense of community that needs to take place for people to have that confidence. Have that for momentum to put themselves on the right trajectory, and you can leverage that to the hilt if you are conscious of where you're interacting, where you're engaging, where you're consuming your content. And it's easy with the Internet and all the abundance information for people to get stuck in a rut looking at negativity, because negativity sells.

But on the same token, you can also subject yourself to all the positive. All the all the right, all the the people with zeal for life. And when you surround yourself with that online and in person like you can't help but be moved up and lifted forward, I mean that is that is paramount. That is key. Yep, and the cream will rise to the top. Use positivity, creates positivity. And you know, life, life in the divine all works relatively the same.

So if you just follow in suit and use your intuition, sharpen your intuition, your ability to create new thoughts, new ideas, new realities, use your use your language, use your energy, use your community to manifest what you want and it and it will happen. It's not easy. It takes a lot of faith. It will have to change probably 10-20 hundred times. But you keep with it. And that is the basis of of how I eliminated IBD from my life.

And there's been moments where I've been upset or things hadn't worked right and I've had speed bumps and you know, food, fear and nothing tackle all different types of things. But you just one at a time. And and that's and the one thing that can, I hope gives everyone some comfort and it gave me comfort is that's just how life works. What if your goal is to get married? If you get married, you're saying, I want to be with this

person for 50 years. Is that not going to take an extreme amount of work And you're going to have speed bumps and and and it's not going to be linear and you're going to have those times where you go, ah man, there's resistance in this. What about if you want to live to 100 and not be sick? Here's the biggest thing that helped helped change me because I used to sacrifice my diet, sacrifice my lifestyle because of Crohn's Clitis. Then I started investing in a

new form of reality. And the way I got that mindset of I'm going to invest in a new way of thinking. As I said to this, I said, all right, forget Crohn's clot for a second, forget being sick. What do you? Do you want to be the best version of yourself in this life? Do you want to genetically, energetically, spiritually be the best version of yourself so you can experience the most of the time you have on this planet? Yes. Are you willing to put in the work to be that guy?

Yes, I always have. Before I was sick, I was always interested and always willing to work hard. Sports, entrepreneurship, getting up, getting things done. I always wanted to be the gut to take the hill. I was always that guy. So then I said, OK, now imagine you living your best life, achieving all your wildest dreams do. Is part of that dream being healthy, not needing medication or needing to go to the the doctor or the hospital because you have taken control of your

health and optimize yourself. Yes. So you want to be a healthy person. You want to make that a priority despite Crohn's colitis. It's the work I did. Yes, that's true. I want to be healthy despite Crohn's colitis. OK, so everything that Crohn's Colitis is asking you to do to retake your health, are those the exact same things you would need to do in condition to be the best version of yourself? Yes, they're the exact same thing. And that that was another life changing moment.

I say wait a minute, this is an investment. All this is like get rid of seed oil. Should you get rid of the seed oil if you want to live a long life? Yeah. Should you get rid of the sugars and all that alcohol and that processed food and like, crap snacking? Should you Start learning about intermittent fasting or cleaning out the liver? Maybe coffee enemas, Casserole packs? She started learning what supplements do and why, and how they can help the body.

Should you Start learning how to interpret, in layman's terms, some simple lab work? Should you learn how to optimize? You know, what is your preferred weight? How should you eat? What do your bowel movements look like? Should everyone do that? Who wants to reduce the risk of any disease and live a long life? Yeah, I said so. What's the difference? What if you just treated this like you're just deciding to be your best self and then then you just go down the line?

Well, Dane, if you do want to get married and have kids, how do you think you're going to meet the right woman by being the right man? If you're half the version of who you could be when you come into her, into her life, what do you think that's going to do energetically? You know, I I just took it to relationships. It's the same thing you got to be. I had to be the right man before I could meet the right woman.

So being my best self allowed me to come to that equation, come to that stage and say I'm proud of who I am. I know what I stand for. I know what my priorities, my values are and what kind of character I bring. And I've conditioned it. I've already worked on it, man. That helped me so much in relationships. Same in business. When I finally got results and got rid of my symptoms with Crohn's clot, I said, Oh my gosh, this is the exact same energy I need to build the the,

the business of my dreams. Then all of a sudden it became clear what I want to do. I was always an entrepreneur, but I never knew what I was going to do. I was always thinking of these, you know, market like these little niches in the market no one had, no one had worked on. And it became obvious, what was I going to do for a living. I was going to take the worst thing that ever happened to me, fix it, which is really hard, and help other people simplify.

Something so difficult as current scleritis and it was like a beautiful, beautiful like Symphony. Everything fit like to find purpose in life usually comes from pain. Isn't that ironic? But beautiful at the same time. It is beautiful, and I talk about that a lot, man. I feel like everything in life should be symbiotic in nature. There should not be this massive disconnect between how you make the living, how you spend time with your family, how you view yourself as a person.

Like it should all work in tandem. Because if everything is working in tandem, everything improves. Whereas if you are at a complete disconnect, then time spent doing one thing is going to be distracting that of something else that's equally important or more so important in one's life. So I've tried to reverse engineer my entire life. Everything that I put value in, everything that I'm passionate about, everything that I want to perform well at.

I make sure it all works in unison with everything that I do, and that's challenging, to figure out how those pieces fit

together. But once you figure that out, once you have that conviction, the the switch is flipped and you can't help but get better every single day and you'll have those bad days, You'll have those down moments, but you can see the light constantly, and you can't help but be enthusiastic about waking up and starting the day because it's another another opportunity to just get better at everything that you put value in. And can I ask you a question?

Just having this conversation right now, is it getting you excited about life? Yeah, man, I love life. Like, I literally love life. I. Have it's getting me excited like you're you're you're Bill I'm building energy to sitting here talking to you like this is refueling me in this moment this is how you do it this is how

winning's done. Like it's a it's a hill it's a life But you surround yourself with like minded people you re enroll what matters and why to yourself and others around you and it just and it just it's it's it's exciting that it's I fall in love with it over and over again and I hope you're feeling out there listening to this because that energy just keep following that and and trust your intuition on food on relationships on people and see that symbiotic connection I had

the one thing came to mind this guy John Butcher has this program called life book and I have no affiliation but I started doing it. It's kind of like what you're talking about here where he has this book that you can fill out the 12 elements of life how to build your best life. He said one quote I really liked one time he said I'm not the richest guy I know said I'm not the best looking guy. I know I'm not in the best shape of anyone.

I know, but I do. But I don't know anyone who has a better life than me. I like that. And I thought it was powerful. And so yeah, you want to you know, where's the ROL return on lifestyle. You know and and can the catalyst of Crohn's colitis help you rebuild and reimagine a new sense of normal. And then when you get there this is what I found, is you're gonna look around at everyone else who you were, who used to be normal.

And you're gonna have all these other problems and they're not gonna be conditioned and as clear on their values as you are. And you're really actually gonna be ahead in life. One of the angry things is you feel you're falling behind in life. I'm missing school. I'm missing social life. I'm missing the dating scene. I, I, I I can't do sports because I'm malnourished and underweight. Those are all real things and we need to address them.

But man, if you can create a new normal, in my opinion, I feel it is possible to create the reality that this is one of the best things that can ever happen to us. It's not easy and it's very difficult and it's, you know, I, I, I I know that I've done this with thousands of people. So yeah, I'd like to tell people a few things that can really help them. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get into some nuts and bolts, man. Like what? What is? Knowing what you know now, how

is that shaped? How you interact the business, Just your lifestyle. OK, so one last generic thing about success. Let's talk about success real quick. Success is very symbiotic in life. To be successful, you have to make things simple. If you watch LeBron James on the court, he makes it look easy. That's because he's so great. OK, Tom Brady, same thing. OK, if anyone my sports fans, you've got to start making your efforts simplified.

So what I want you to do First off is decide and be committed to what your daily blueprints going to be. So in our program, we teach you the Daily Blueprint. The Daily Blueprint is what you are going to be committed to doing first thing in the morning last night. Now the trick is, is to not get overwhelmed. It's not to be perfect. See, everyone says, oh, I got to do 1000 things. They're saying, Well, 1000 things could be good, but if you get overwhelmed, they're

worthless. So you got to be consistent. So how can I start simplifying my days to be consistent? So the nuts and bolts of that is I want you to do 80 to 90% of your program first thing in the morning and last thing at night, OK. If you're going to take a supplement or do a therapy or do a meditation or whatever, do it in the morning and do it at night and free up the middle of your days. Because if you put things in the middle of your days, you're going to miss some things are

going to happen. Life happens. You got to make sure you can be consistent. OK? Two, don't do anything or take anything just because someone tells you to truly understand why it would work for you. If I'm going to like for instance if I'm going to take fish oil because Google said the Omega threes are a great anti-inflammatory. I want to have a a stronger reason that like I'm going to take fish oil because I wanted to reduce my CRP.

I'm going to take fish roll because I want it to reduce my calprotectin or sed rate or help with cognitive function. OK, give yourself a I'm going to and because why? If you can't answer that then you need to reconsider what you're doing now. If you can do that really strongly with even 5 things instead of the 15 you were originally going to do, you might get just as good a results

with less variables. Less variables means you have less variables to move and switch, so you know more likely what's working and you have a higher chance of consistency. See, I'm sure you've noticed this as well, that when I first start basic level, if I'm only doing 5 things, I can be consistent. I can figure out how good those five things work, and I can always add the 6th, the 7th, the

8th later on as I build comfort. Yeah, I I think, I mean, I'm wearing a shirt right now that says discipline dictates destiny, Destiny, consistency is key. Any success I've experienced in life has been a result of doing things consistently. Like, I like to pick things that I can do every single day, without fail, without deviation and never veer from it. And if you do that, that compounded over time is transformative. Exactly. And so listen to that guys again, guys. That was perfect.

So. But the problem I've found and where I think that we've really shined is emotionally helping you do that. If we were all robots, this would be easy. But we're not. We're emotional, spiritual beings. So we have to come at it and say, how can I feel good with this? How can I feel like I can keep this up? How can I not feel overwhelmed? How does this fit my budget? You know, how does this make sense? So start with less and move up.

The second thing I want you to do when you're nuts and bolts is I want you to play defense, OK? I want you to do things that have a potential to help but a very low risk of hurting. When I first started trying to heal myself, I was so desperate to heal. I was looking at doing like hookworm therapy was one thing where I was actually drinking

worms. I was, I was making my own yogurts and I was doing all these, doing all these different things that some of them had a really negative effect. And it set me back. Whereas if I'd have just been more consistent, more simplified and really made sense of what I was going to start with and then titrate it up, probably would have got a lot better and a lot quicker, right? The tortoise in the hare or the rabbit in the tortoise is a can't remember my nursery rhymes.

One of those two. That's why it's just some animal. The slower animal wins is the point, right? So it's the you want to start that slow and play defense. OK, so things I want you to start with with a defense. I want you to look for a high integrity probiotic. I personally use nature and probiotics. I personally use the powders. This is an example of what we teach is is strategy. I'm going to use the powders because I can use single strain isolated probiotics in powder form.

So instead of taking a capsule with 14 strains, I don't know if they're living OK and I don't know if they're going to have a negative effect all at once. And God knows how the anterior coated capsules going to affect those probiotics helping out my stomach, my esophagus, my small intestine. I'm going to do a powder mix with the growth medium isolated, I know is the most authentic brand I can get.

And I'm going to slowly titrate it based on my experience with these most 3 popular strains that have over 100 years of clinical evidence. You see that chest move, guys. You see how much backing I'm like, OK, that's how I'm going to do it. So a probiotic is great for digestion. It's great to take back the territory of the microbiome. It helps regulate inflammation. See beneficial bacteria regulates that TH one response,

that cytokine response. So your T cells aren't constantly creating Illinois 1 beta or Illinois 6 interleukin 6 or TNF alpha. That sounds familiar. That's because Remicade is a TNF alpha and those immunomodulars help calm that down. But there's probiotics can also help that, and they are also low risk. And I can do 1/4 a teaspoon, teaspoon a teaspoon at 300 million Cfus instead of 50 billion Cfus at once. Same thing with the spores. A lot of people love the spore

spores out there. I don't really need to use Malaka's. It's offensive, It's very territorial. And you might get a very serious negative reaction. You might get a good reaction, but you also might get a negative. And I'm talking generically to you guys, right? There's a few thousand people listening. One person's going to do great. One person is going to be neutral. One person is going to have a terrible response and go to the hospital.

OK, got to stop thinking generic, so play defense first. What is going to have a potential risk to help but not hurt? Other examples? Making your own food. No risk, but great possibilities. Sleeping at the same time at night? Meditation or prayer? Engage the parasympathetic. Get your nervous system right. How many of you guys feel like stress has affected your health? Your nervous system? Change the signals in your body, OK? A digestive enzyme.

If you can break down the food, you're going to break down your fats better, which is going to make cholesterol. It's going to make you help you make testosterone. Testosterone is going to be very protective over autoimmune disease. It's also going to help you absorb all your fat solubles. Your A, your date, your D, your K, your E You're going to need that for 10,000 different things going on in your body, OK? You're going to need them for all of it. So the whole process starts

working better. So start. That's where really training and coaching can come into play is like start. How do you think defensively 1st and we have so many members to just do defensive stuff and do great. I do. I do a fantastic job. I want to tell a quick story on that. That just happened. I got back from Cancun last night. My operations manager got married in Cancun so I had to fly out there. I got a five week baby at home

right? So I'm hardly sleeping, having to really work, work my shield, stay, stay good, fly out to Cancun. And while we're there, there's a 12 year old boy with his family there who just happened to be in our program randomly at the same hotel at the same time as our, a lot of our coaches and our team there for the wedding, sitting here with us. His name's Harrison. Shout out to Harrison if he's listening.

His mother, Renee. And we're sitting there with Harrison, Renee. And they've been in our program for three months and this is a 12 year old boy weighing 57 lbs. OK. And he's got severe Crohn's disease, really bad heartburn, a lot of cramping, pain, bloating, malnourished, low energy. He's at a three out of 10 when he started his cow protecting his 3000 at 12 years old, 3000, as high as the test goes. OK, Doesn't even test higher than that. All right.

He's 12 and doctors are saying all this crazy stuff. His parents worried sick. So we see him. He's 3 1/2 months into the program working and you get a private coach when you work with us. He's worked with Coach Arman, who happened to be at the wedding too. And we do all this, you know, Coach Arman lives in London. We do all this online, right around the world. We have clients in Africa, all over Australia, North America, Europe, and we get to see him.

This boy's cow protecting. His parents got latest cow protecting the day before they came to the Cancun. His cow protecting was 112 from 3000. He gained 4 lbs in the last three months, which is huge for a little kid who weighs 57. OK, that's like 10%. It's like 10%, correct. And he just gained it like the last month as things were working, his gastritis was gone. No heartburn. Gone. And he was, His energy was great and his food tolerance was way

better. So one of the things also help you guys when you're looking at this and dealing with the stress of I can't eat all these things and everything's messing with me. When you fix some root issues, you're going to notice that your tolerance of stress goes up, Your tolerance of food variety goes up. And he had, quote, I got a little video of this. I'm going to probably post it on the gram here soon. But I was like, hey, here's cement. You know, you couldn't eat anything before.

He's like, yeah, man, my stomach hurt every time I eat anything. I was like, what about now? He's like I had seven tacos last night and I'm like, good job, brother, you know, And so one thing I'm taking from that and yeah, gluten free. And we teach him how to eat and reduce risk and eating foods and stuff like that. But is his food tolerance had gone up and he had gained 4 lbs. It's kind of protecting us. Normally he's having two normal bowel movements a day, his

heartburn and gone down. And this is 90 days. This is 90 days. And I can't, you know, we can't guarantee that for everybody. But just to see a kid shine like that and in what he did, I'm going to tell you some of the stuff we did with his case, OK? Because he had esophagus issues. He had ulcers in his stomach, ulcers throughout his small intestine. It was predominantly his small

intestine. That was the issue, not his colon, which is why I think his bowel movements got normal quickly because a lot of us who get the blood, the cramping, the mucus, the urgency, the inflammation is chronically in the colon, so causes the spastic colon and the bleeding and the malnourishing, the weight loss. He had a lot of those issues, but the bowel movements were more normal. So we started adding in some stuff and whenever I see ulcers,

I think H pylori. H pylori is a bacteria that causes ulcers, hurts stomach acid, affects the the liver, all sorts of cascading effects and everyone responds differently. Like you know how when COVID hit one person with COVID went to the our room ER room and then their brother got COVID and he

was asymptomatic. It's very similar with autoimmune disease where one person can get a virus, a bacteria pathogen of any sort and then all of a sudden they get an active, quote UN quote flare of IBD and another person gets that same bacteria. There's no problem. I'll look at stool analysis of quote UN quote normal people and

they're terrible. And then I'll look at people with Crohn's colitis still having a little bit of symptoms and their actual stool analysis looks way better than a lot of normal people. I test like my wife's stool analysis was five times worse than mine last year. Like mine was like 9092%. Her hers was like a 65% and she had never had a gut gut health issue ever. So our immune systems are responding differently to these

things. So one of the things is when we treated that H pylori and then we put him on and then we talked to his parents, his parents decided OK, because we're not going to recommend these things as they're not FDA approved perfectly, but BPC 157. So we gave them in a capsule version. We didn't do sub Q injection as a little kid. We did a capsule.

We got our products from a really great guy named Kyle from Level Up Health in Australia. We actually get this product from shipped from Australia to our United States warehouse because they're so good. But you should check this out too, man. It's really great. It's called GI Ultimate repair. It's amazing. It's got zinc carnosine, it's got 1000 micrograms of BPC 157 arginate form which gets past the stomach acid. It's got lorazitide which seals up the gut.

It's amazing peptide to get rid of gut. The gut lining problems, it's got KPV and that's a Tri peptide that's amazing. Has sons of clinical results to reduce the chance of inflammation and problems with Crohn's and UC and some evidence to suggest it can reduce the chance of colon cancer coming. So it's got that in there as well. It's got a little quercetin it's got tributerin just type of short chain fatty acid that's really protective of the colon that's all in one capsule.

So but it can the xin carnosine comes sometimes cause nausea so you need to go slow and then take it with food. So the parents said say hey we want to use that peptide we want to do some some anti H pylori, we used a little deglycerized licorice root vitamin U and then we use mastic gum and we just nice and slow with that was all in one product right.

So we it's a product called Gastro Mend My designs for love that company, all the companies we use, they're family owned, they're professional grade a certificate analysis. I know all the brands, I know exactly what they do. I'm highly in tune with what products we use and why and the companies who run them and and so we those were two things we did and we put them on some liver support. So he's a 12 year old, but he can do Castro pack.

We use little tutka, little kale support, Kinney liver support by cell core, another great company and boom. Yeah, I mean, those are just a few things, but we made it simple, we made it doable and he's just rocking. So what I want to say is like that was a few months of building that you start slow. We also started with little bit of probiotic isolated strains, a digestive enzyme to help him with the food and he's gaining weight, he's eating food, a lot of varieties, inflammations down.

He's not having any symptoms. Parents are getting some relief from all this. They're learning themselves because the mom was also diagnosed with ulcerative colitis 15 years ago and she's a a pediatric dentist now and so she's just soaking this up, learning all this stuff herself. So that's another thing is we work with the parents and the parents get trained, the parents get self empowered.

The parents can also do a lot of this in their own health and then decide to teach their kids and and do that with their kids and the next thing in the nuts and bolts, that's important. That I just said about that that story is customization. One of you got to customize your plan.

Like I know some people, I've worked with some people who have very blessed in life and they were famous and things and they and they they were working with these other practitioners who are building more of a scalable company. And they were and they were getting these plans were a very generic like just do a liquid fast for the X amount of time, take this curcumin and take a fish oil and take a probiotic and then come talk to me in in four weeks and you got to get

away from that generic. I'm just not a fan. I know a lot of people that just it's hard to help so many people at once and you don't you don't have hours of time for each individual person for a lot of companies. And I totally understand that. But you've got to figure out a way to get trained. Don't just do what people tell

you to do, learn why. And when you get that, that's how you get great results one year, three years, five years later, 10 years later, because you're getting trained on how to be self empowered, how to respond to adversity, what things do and why become a great chess player. I get on and I win the chess game for you. That chess game doesn't stop with the end of the program.

Your life moves on and you know that your body, I mean anyone can get sick at any time and that's also a trauma we have to get over with being sick. So one last thing before I haven't been talking like crazy right now and I hope. Everyone's loving it, I hope. I don't talk too much and but one thing I want to say that also help me with that trauma of like how do I get rid of this disease, right? Like how do I feel safe in my body again?

Was this this one fact 'cause I always try to relate myself to what normal life is. So I'm going to ask you a rhetorical question. Most of us listening don't have gingivitis currently. OK? We brush our teeth 2-3 times a day. We flush, we brush our teeth, we don't have gingivitis. But if all of us stopped brushing our teeth, all of us, we would get gingivitis again. So that means that the gingivitis, we all have gingivitis. It's just in remission because of the daily effort we make.

You get the metaphor. Yeah. So without daily effort to take care of yourself, this ease will come. So how do you feel safe in your body? By just deciding that taking care of yourself is an is a top priority and value for life. And then you have to switch that from the fear of being sick to the desire of feeling good. Because both of us on this podcast right now are not doing it out of the fear, or doing it because it feels so damn good. It does indeed.

On that note, if someone listening, probably most people listening. If they don't have Crohn's Golias is there, what would you recommend for them? Like, would you recommend a specific stool test to just dive deeper into the gut microbiome health and where they're sitting currently? Anything they could be doing prophylactically going forward. Great question. And I'm going to speculate a little bit because it's not my niche, OK. I don't specialize in other

diseases. I work with Crohn's Colitis IBS or things like Crohn's colitis, lymphocytic colitis, microscopic colitis, pancolitis. From my trainings and what I've been doing for the last 12 or 15 years, what I've seen is most disease is primarily starting with the gut. So I do have a little bit of a excite, not excitement, but courage and sense of knowingness. I can say that that if if I'm dealing with anyone who's sick, a lot of these principles are are very much the same.

Start fixing the gut, Start deciding what your values are, deciding how you're going to be happy and healthy with your food, with your protocol. Start getting personally trained. Start looking at different labs, the labs everyone should be doing despite your disease. I would say 3 generically good ones to do. And this could be different, you know, like you know, depending on what's going on, if there's metabolic issues.

But I really like the organic acid urine analysis test to start with and that's going to tell you about mitochondria dysfunction or candida or fungal or maybe C diff issues or vitamin issues or ketone, ketone issues, folate issues, methylfolate. So the organic acid urine analysis, a comprehensive PCR stool analysis and there's great ones out there. I like to use the GI map. I think another great one is the GI 360 which is a three or four day stool analysis but a lot of it's Multiplex.

It's not quantitative but it does test for a lot of cool stuff. So those are both good. The We the gut zoomer by vibrant America's also really good Genova's got a good one there's a lot of them they're all pretty comprehensive to each other. So it quantitative PCR, stool analysis organic acid test and then a blood panel and you really need a good practitioner really understands blood like I'm still I I can't I got in this program. I still need to do it about functional blood testing and

training. There's so many hidden gems and blood work like this whole standard value thing is really not saying much like when they say you're in range, those ranges can actually tell the story, a very deep story on what's going on. So you're going to do your CBC and your CMP which is your complete blood count, your

complete metabolic panel. And I like to add in, make sure you have your full iron panel hemoglobin, iron ferritin, then you're going to, I like to see your vitamin D levels and I like vitamin D to be over 65 Ng over ML for American standards. And that's where also they say COVID has a lot less chance of affecting you and vitamin D has the ability to boost your immune system. Your RBC magnesium can be great.

Your your CRPC reactive protein inflammatory marker, your liver could make the systemic inflammation. Your ESR sedimation rate estimated sedimation rate could be also a sign of inflammation in your body. So those are two good ones to check for. Crohn's colitis. I'd like to see your ASCA, your antisacchromyces, CCA antibodies, that's a antibody against Baker's yeast. So if you have a 75% of people diagnosed with Crohn's have an antibody reaction to yeast.

So with Crohn's specifically diagnosis, I like to take you off the yeast as well. Not just gluten and pancake can also be one for ulcerative colitis, so those are really good. If you can also check your omega-3 index. If you're dealing with gut health issues, you probably have poor omega-3, omega-3 Omega 6 ratios. You want a four to 1/4 Omega six to one omega-3 ratio, so those are great to also see if they'll add those. Insurance will cover your Omega

threes. I also you know checking your hormones can be great. Hormones will be thrown off like hormones are made in your gut. So that's why I say a lot of this with any disease is going to start with the gut. So you got to get that gut fixed if it's the thyroid, if it's, if it's the metabolics, if it's if it's a cellular issue, you know Dan doctor Dan Papa would say Dang, Nah, Nah, Nah, it's not. It's the cells is upstream. Fix the cells, the gut will get

fixed, right. OK. But I, you know, I would say those are pretty good to check in in the blood with. That's a great place to start. You can get insurance to cover that. It's kind of hard to get functional labs to for insurance to cover. Some places can do it. Some places some doctors can swing in.

Some insurances like PPO might swing it but it's it's really tough to do so a stool, a urine and then I'm going to start talking to you, you know if I hear that you know you if you checked your house for mold, do you believe you have heavy metal issues, you have amalgam issues, you know if so we might have to do a hair, hair, urine and blood tests on heavy metals. You know, mycotoxin tests for urine organic acid tests might give us some indication of mold as well.

But if you really think mold might be an issue, you got to do a mycotoxin test. Mosaic Labs is great for that. You know, practitioner and all. Everyone in the SHIELD program can and our program can do these labs which is awesome. You can do them all around the world. So when I had a client, I was working with a guy in Dubai and we can do a stool analysis from from Dubai. So I'm in California, he's in Dubai, I can do a stool analysis. I got another client in India.

We do a stool analysis and his food allergy panel in in India. We do all labs in all over Europe. We've got a team in Europe as well predominantly UK. So it's yeah, I mean the world's changing. I mean I would I the thing here is man I wish I had this when I was sick. Like, I just 10 years, I've been like a dog on a bone, building what I needed and just trying to

do it right. Because my mom was this, this mom suffering and looking and I was this kid and and we were spending tons of money and not getting anywhere. And I needed, I needed someone who could relate. I needed a coach. I need someone who had all our coaches have Crohn's and colitis. How cool is that? That is pretty cool, I felt. There's so many coaches out there that are totally unrelatable with their clientele base because they just have not lived the life they're living. Yeah.

And none of our coaches worry about our food. We don't worry about the bathroom. We all have normal, normal lab work. We're all healthy. I mean, it's we all help each other. We meet. We meet once a week and talk about each other's health and we meet and talk about all of all of our all the people in our community, and then all of our community members can talk to

each other. That's a big thing is like, I've been in programs where you can't talk to other members, you know, because they don't want people complaining to each other. We're not worried about that. You can talk to our members. We we try to move forward. Integrity. You come in, you can talk with anyone in the program immediately. Hey, how are you? How are your? How's your success? Yeah, that's good. But yeah, we're not hiding pre non governing. Everyone can talk and it's a

private encrypted community. Everyone has the ability just to talk. And then we do, I do a live training for free every week for the community and then we have Doctor Chow. So that's another thing we've added is we added Doctor Chow who's an ND and soon to be DO and he does a weekly live training on supplements and chiropractic and Chinese medicine. And then we have Doctor Kay coming on, he'll be a live

training on nutrition here soon. And then we have Rachel Turner, who's our mental health specialist. She's had Crohn, ulcer of colitis for 16 years, no symptoms. And she does EFT and hypnosis and heart math. So she does once a week for people on on trauma and mental health. And you can just for free lifetime membership. And you just come on and and come on those lives, ask questions, book one on ones. I mean it's, you know, book one

on ones we're still building. That's kind of like something coming out. But you can do it one-on-one with Rachel right now. Doctor Kay. Yeah, you can do it one-on-one with him right now. Doctor Chow, we're kind of working on that. So, you know, my vision here is to build a win win and to make it the, you know when anyone who's sick.

This is why I want you to. I know you asked about anyone, so I want you to. When you're looking for an answer, you want integrity and trust with whoever you work with because you're in, you might not have linear results. You can't just base everything on hitting a home run like Barry Bonds. You have to get in there. And some are really tough cases. Some are, some are home runs.

But you really got to believe in who you're getting in who you're being coached with and and start looking for access. I think a lot of times we sleep on the value of access the community live trainings, lab work can I get lab work and can I start studying lab work Because if you're going to be good for 50 years you need to understand your labs you know and I always tell people especially people who do testimonies with us. We have over 500 testimonies.

So people who said who said we've gotten rid of all their senses occurrence class, check us out on YouTube youtube.com slash Crohn's colitis lifestyle. There's we put out tons of testimonies, all video testimonies and they have no incentive to do a testimony except help paying for it. And we always tell them like, hey you're feeling great, you have no symptoms, but you got to check labs. We see people get see labs go wrong a lot of times before

their symptoms come back. Yeah. So that's the thing, Labs. If you're on a budget, that's another thing I'd give advice. Anyone out there right now is listening, saying, man, I just this stuff's expensive. It does. You need a few $1000 to really do this, but if you're on a budget, the thing I want you to focus your money on is protocol and coaching. Hold off on not you may consider holding off the labs.

You may if you're on a budget because the coaching and the protocol is where the rubber meets the road and it might make that lab look 10 times better in a matter of six weeks. So if you wait and do that lab in a month or two months or three months, it might be more specific on what still is. The issue gives you less trauma. Seeing all those Christmas lights on your labs and you you can you can narrow in on that compass because that's what a lab is. It's it's a compass. It's a North Star.

It's a. It's a screenshot. Out of curiosity, I want to pick your brain too. On what? What did you take on Carnivore as it pertains to gut health and gut biodiversity? Like have you had many patients that have gone that route and if So, what have you seen in their results? I've seen great results. I've seen some it's so I'll give you outside this the majority of people I see getting great healing results are using animal based foods.

OK, it might be a mixture of planet animal, but they're using animal based foods and I could tell you some great. I'll give you some highlights of what I've seen great and people who've come in as vegans because we work with vegans and people who are vegetarians especially like a lot of our Indian Indian clients and then people who are carnivore with carnivore. I've surprisingly seen really good stool analysis where people said have been carnivore for five, 6-7 months.

You know I was talking about this with Kayla Betts who's carnivore and I was talking with a few other guys who have been carnivore for years and I was looking at their labs and it was like this I mean and no inflammation no leaky gut did no dysbiosis. Carnivore is really good at resetting the the the Candida problem the Dysbiotic problem, Dysbiosis problem. I I see it get great results.

I I still am a fan. I was talking with a few other carnival guys out here on this and you know we go back and forth about the value of of fiber and my thoughts are and how I handle is I just keep an open mind. I listen to everybody. I cherry pick that's how I got results. I cherry pick and I've been. I've been where I'm like 80% plant, 20% meat, and I've been 90% meat, 10% plant, and I've I've done it all and I've found

little values in certain things. With carnivore diet a common problem I've consistently seen is loose stool where they can get the bloating down, they can get the acne down, they get the inflammation down. The GI map looks better but

there's chronic diarrhea. Second problem I've seen is liver problems where there's this backed up liver where someone whose carnivore cannot properly detox or they feel fine, but the moment they eat a plant or the moment they start doing more casserole packs or sauna, they get more dizzy, they get more diarrhoea, they get more urgency, they feel

sensitive. So a lot of my carnivore members who've done it for a long time, they get really great results, but they get stuck and they and they can't eat. And so that's also an idea of health, like if you can't tolerate, do you need these plants? Is that health? And that was a question for me when I was on a really restricted diet even.

So I got results. I said, well, Dane, are you really healthy When I was talking myself in third person, Are you really healthy if you can't tolerate these organic foods from the planet that most people have been eating for thousands of years? Whether whether or not just despite the argument whether oatmeal is good or bad with the phytic acid and the oxalate. OK, Despite that, right? Like how strong is your gut if you can't tolerate it?

See, that's a different question then is the are the grains and polysaccharides bad, bad for you? Are they messing you up? And is the arsenic and the phytic acid and rice and is that messing you up? Because I believe that a lot of these guys out here are talking this are are amazing. Doctor Berg, Dave Asprey, you

know, are two ones. I really like to like to listen on that carnivore MD and everyone's got their own little twist on it. Then when I interviewed Dr. Gundry, I've interviewed Dr. Gundry twice and I I talked with a lot of different vegans. And I was interviewing this one MD who was a gastroenterologist who became vegan because he saw so many poor colon his out of his words, his thoughts. He saw so many poor colonoscopies.

And he thought, and from his studies, the the defining issue with the the colon problems he was seeing in the manifestation of colon cancer was an inability to properly evacuate bowel movements. And he believed the lack of fiber and polyphenols, OK, and resistant starches. And he said that was causing a putrid Ness in the colon that was leading to inflammation in cancers. That was his thought as an MD. So he became a vegan. So he's all about the vegan thing, right?

So instead of arguing about this, let's start cherry picking and looking at this. Then you look at, and I love Doctor. I think Doctor Berg's one of the ones who has the most clinical research in all all this. He's keto, right? He's keto. But he does a low sugar massive salad every single day because go on YouTube and go doctor Berg his daily ritual.

And he's got, so he's got tons of fiber, tons of polyphenols and tons of micronutrients from plants that he's adding in with his bacon and eggs and steak that he has every day and he had colon issues and he was talking about his colon hydrotherapy and stuff. So I think there's there's a lot of good stuff in there. I've seen clients I've I've I get again the majority of results. Where I feel safe and I get results is with animal based

foods. Specifically, I'll start with ground lean meats because another problem I see with carnivore, when you really break it down, it's not just carnivore When a person like all of us, if we look at individual response, OK, stop thinking generic is the biggest lesson I want to say here right now. Stop thinking generically and

start thinking individually. A lot of people might have a problem with Carnivore because they can't tolerate their histamine problems, they can't breakdown fats and they get reactions to iron. So they might go, Oh my God, Carnivore destroyed me and Vegan made me feel so much better.

Carnivore is a liar. And then you got a guy who went Carnivore and his eczema went away and his headaches went away and his bowel movements got better and he and his and his HDL and LDL got better and he goes Carnivore saved my life. Vegan had me low testosterone and I and I had low libido and I was underweight and malnourished and that nearly killed me. Veganism is they're liars. Then you get this war. It's like Republicans versus Democrats.

It's like, guys, dude, this is, this is a we're just, in my opinion, I think they're it's like a distraction. Just cherry pick, listen and customize, OK? And really plants and animals are meant to be symbiotic. Plants can't live without animals. Animals can't live without plants. If we just look at that universal rule, we can start saying there is there a universal, universal way, a symbiotic way to see these two things?

And if you can get to that level of the decision, I think you're going to get farther in your health. Then getting stuck in the mud with the with the debates and the almost mind numbing political argument of the of the, you know, the plants versus animal, they're really beneficial. Both ways. I mean, I feel like there is so much dogmatic thinking out there right now. I mean, I've, I've interviewed people and I try to really be open.

Like I, I've interviewed people from both ends of the spectrum and everywhere in between, and I feel like if someone has markedly improved their health and they're living in more, you know, they have more zeal and vitality in their life. Like, who am I to say they're doing something wrong? And and and so this is, I'll give you my take on what I found, what I've chosen to do. And my my nutrition plan has changed 1015 times from the course of when I started.

The first diet that ever helped me was more carnivoresque. It was a little bit little AIP. So I had a little bit of vegetable in there, very minimal. But the biggest thing is I had almost no sugar, OK? And so that's one thing that keto does really well is knocking on sugar. Sugar is a big problem. And if we look historically, sugar is only found 1, 1/2 seasons of the year in fruit in nature, but there is no sugar in January in 90% of the planet, right?

Like. So I think that's one thing that keto's really doing. I think people naturally went into ketosis. And if you look at it, why is the why can the body run on two different types of fuel? Because the body was probably in ketosis during some time of the year and then using carbohydrate sugar in another part of the year. And so you can you can go well and I know people who are so far into this, they only eat

seasonally. So one woman I really respect who studies cellular development, she's carnivore in the winter and then she adds in fruits and different types of carbohydrates and eats more paleo AIP in the summer. She only eats what's seasonally available. And it just depends your your, you know, how far do you want to take it? Because at the same level you'd say, well, does food matter as much or just stress?

Because at a certain point stress might mean matter more than trying to get a half percent better on the way you eat, right? And if it is stressing you out and is it affecting your relationships, You see this. Remember, all of life is symbiotic. So I think that we have to look at what we all agree on processed food. Start with what we all agree on. Everyone agrees that the seed oils are terrible, that processed food is bearable, that processed dairy is bad.

If you're going to have dairy, you need to have A1 beta casein raw dairy. I'm more of a fan of Kiefer or yogurts then going just the raw milk. But I understand the raw milk can be great, so some people can have a really nasty reaction with that. There's been cases. And so be careful with that. And then and then we all agree that we should be eating from

local farms. We also agree that the soil is a big problem with the quality and nutrients of all food, whether it's a cow or it's a piece of spinach or carrot or arugula. All right. And then I do like to look for plants. When I do, I do look and I cherry pick what plants I do think are lower in oxalates, lower in phytic acid, lower in lectins. That's what I cherry pick from Doctor Gundry because Gundry is over here saying, oh, you got all these studies.

He's, he's an MD and he's got all these books and some people think he's a savior, some people think he's a liar. Whatever it is, I'm just listening and I'm cherry picking. What I realize is he this very unique way of how he ate grains and he had low lectin grains that he pressure cooked and he soaked. And then so I said, OK, what am I? Gluten free, more ancient grains. And then how do I prepare him to lower that lectin count, that phytic acid. All right.

And that's what I looked at. And I've had clients like I'll give you one example of the 16 year old boy who was AIP since he was 12 years old. His mother believed that the vaccine is what gave him Crohn's disease. He got the MMR and she was just completely, I'm not saying it's true, but she said MMR is what gave him Crohn's. And I was working with this boy. He had been like 90. He was 16. Now he had been something like 89 lbs since he was 12. He hadn't gained any weight.

He was like 55 and he was still having blood cramping pain urgency 3 bound today And his mom was cooking every single meal and he was eating so strict animal based. So we started working on him and we worked on biofilms and we started working on Walt Oregano and and probiotics and he started getting better and better and better, but he hadn't really gained weight. And then I said, let me try something real quick and I added in a sprouted roll, organic

rolled oats. And I said because he was calories are so restrictive on what he was eating. And I just said, let me just try a carb, try an isolated version with this oatmeal. And he gained he gained like 15 lbs in about six weeks after being the same weight since he was four years old or I'm sorry, 12 years old, not 4, excuse me. And it was just an ironic moment where that young man actually did really well with that, that oatmeal in that moment.

And I had a few other guys who did really well with a properly prepared vegan based meal after being AIP for a long time. Then I also had people who were AIP like I'm dealing with right now, a guy who's from India, very successful, who's been raised vegetarian, Indian, never had a piece of red meat in his entire life. His parents have never had a piece of red meat in his entire life.

It's their culture. And he came to me more plant based and I said dude, I think you're reacting to the plants and all that. I move them more to to salmon. I get them on salmon, I get them on sardines, I get them on a fish oil. I get them on bone broth, protein and and I haven't drink bone broth every day and I reduce the grains in the seeds. His bowel movements go from six

a day down to two. His heartburns eliminated, he gains 8 lbs of weight and he says his bowel movements are so picture perfect they couldn't even look better. Most fulfilling thing for you man is be able to like work with these people, especially the kids. Like working with the kids, seeing their life transform and just giving. Like being able to see their eyes light up with hope. Like that has got to be the most rewarding thing ever. It is man and I and I just, I'm

I'm. I'm all for it guys like let's learn. Let's I mean I've done I've done so many carnivore keto podcasts or read books and I'm I'm all about it and and introducing. But I'm going to customize each plan and keep customizing and keep cherry picking and find your way and realized there are good things. I had another kid guy in Germany who wanted to eat meat but he had such a bad reaction to meat we don't know why to this day he could not have a piece of cod tilapia, steak, doesn't matter

eggs. He would go with 1214 bowel movements a day, 24 hours after trying any meat. His body required him to be vegan. It was the strangest thing. I had never seen anything like it and he was one of the most severe cases. I I spent a year and a half with him to get him about 75% symptom free every week. I met him every week for a year and a half. He was very successful, very successful and he just yet his body had to be vegan.

I've had a few people like that, I mean and then other people with the grains, I think one thing with the grains is like the fiber. Sometimes people's, you know, their ability to move toxins that that red meat can get stuck or the meat without the fiber can cause a problem. And some people then they get that extra fiber that's properly prepared, that's so that's reduced in lectins, that's lowered in arsenic, phytic acid and you just you properly

prepare. I call that food philosophy and it just helps feed that good bacteria. It helps clean the colon out. They get better evacuation. A lot of times we're just not evacuating well. And I see that again. I see that with the carnival keto guys and I had another one. I have tons of these cases. And I had another girl who her MD had put her on the keto diet because of this research. It was SCD and keto and she was eating about 7 foods a day. OK, really high fat.

And she was like, how can I be doing so bad? All this makes so much sense. The science is there, my my ND showing me the science and I. And the problem was, is that her liver was so backed up, she had zero bile production. She couldn't break down fats. So I moved her on to more fruit. I said we're going to cut up all those fats. I'm going to put you on a raw fat twice a day. I'm going to put you on more carbs, monosaccharide carbs from fruit with a little bit of lean meat.

And then she wrote. She, she wrote like, I quote, I'm three weeks into my SHIELD program with Dane and I'm 80% symptom free from 21 days ago. That's right. And so I hope this has given everyone aha moments that there are, there are underlying mechanics besides the generic idea of how one way of eating is so good. And that's why I don't teach generic diets. I customize nutrition plants, I customize plans and I look at what's going on in the body and how the body's responding.

So when I start with you, I might even have you do a monosaccharide elemental shake followed by an AIP meal, OK, followed by more of a keto meal. And then I have you journal on how your symptoms are moving. And I tell you, when you start talking to me intuitively of how you feel, that's another thing I think you guys can do. You could do multiple types of styles very quickly and get an intuitive nature on what's working for you. Is fat working better for you?

Is glucose still working better for you? If you've got SIBO and massive Disposis and Candida, you probably do much worse on the sugar, right? And so it it goes it it that's that's the genius of it. And that's where you can really learn and we can balance and and start with what we all agree with, Eat from the earth, properly prepare food. Get rid of the trash, process stuff and then just cherry pick, just listen everywhere and cherry pick and then customize it.

That's when my that's when I actually physically changed my life with my nutrition plan. I'd already tried the fruitarian diet, I had done the carnivore diet, I had done AIPI, had done specific Carbohydrate diet. And then, you know, a year and a half later, I'm 183 lbs strong as I ever was. No cane out of a wheelchair. I can run 5 miles and I have a completely customized nutrition plan based on what my body's told me after 190 a 190 days of journaling every day, what I'd

ate and what my response was. And that's going to look different for everybody, man. That's, that's the key. Like people want this blanket statement, universal approach to nutrition. And that's just not out there. Doesn't exist. There are certainly, you know, norms. I feel like what you're saying, you get rid of the processed food, get rid of the sugar, eat from the earth, minimally processed like that is all 100% something we saw on the same page.

I feel like if people simply did that, that'd be a classic 8020 analysis breakdown right there. Like that would resolve most people's issues relatively quickly. And both sides of the fence would agree. And then we can start. Then we can start get critiquing because you might get great results just doing that. You know, people want to go 0 or hero. That's a common problem. People just want to say all or nothing. No, no, no, no, no. Just, you know, just take it easy, learn, learn and try.

And plants and animals are symbiotic. They need each other. We can learn from that, you know, And it's really a distraction, I think. I think it's distracting people. And ketosis is wonderful, man. Ketosis is so good for reducing cancer cells and getting rid of fungal load in the body and resetting the body. And and I mean the research is amazing and, you know, take it, I mean, but it's also conflicting.

I know a lot of us are out there saying look at all this research with, you know, and all these documentaries on veganism and look at the research with Carnivore and Keto. And you know, that's not as popularized on Netflix and all that. They know they don't have as many documentaries, but it's coming and you know, and there's still some good healthy conversations we need to have. Like is eating meat tough? Is that affecting global warming like a lot of the vegans are saying?

And how is it affecting the farms and soil and the and the carbon dioxide, right? Those are all healthy, good conversations we can have. So let's come to the table, stop shouting, let's have the conversations and realize the body is naturally made to run on glucose or or or ketones.

And there are benefits to both. And the probably the answer is we probably should be what one of my colleagues I said was doing earlier or we should be in ketosis at sometimes and we should be running on glycogen sometimes. Yeah, yeah. Now there's definitely more than one way to skin a cat. As a saying goes, man, I feel like the more people feel empowered to just test and actually listen to their body too. I mean, some people are so far removed from what their bodies

tell them. They're just they assume that it's normal to have all this GI distress, headaches, nausea, trouble sleeping, cramping, like people are not in tune with their body. But once you become in tune with your body, you can really have clarity as to how certain foods make you feel, perform, and operate. And I think the more you take note of that and journal that and just listen tune in, the more empowering it becomes. Amen. Be humble.

We got we got two ears and one mouth for a reason and I know I've been talking a lot here and I think one thing that's just helped me as I was just willing to listen and I'll stop judging and and I just try it journal be a self accountable be the CEO of your health you know have great conversations. Do research on the power of plants and do the power of animals. Don't sleep on either and and

realize there are value, value. And you know, I I like ketosis also because there's still so many plants involved in the ketosis when you do it right. I do think it has that harmony. Yeah, it certainly. Can't be for. Sure there's a right and wrong way to do it. Yeah. And there's so many great leaders in this space, you know, and there's so many great people to learn from and just just listen and read and follow and and try and journal. Just make it your own and you're

going to win. And you know and if anyone out there needs help and you're really, you really stayed this long with us, thank you so much. And you know if you need help and you feel like you have Currents class or IBD or even IBS and you feel like you know, you might want to work with me and my team and we've built that trust and integrity with you. We're going to do everything in our power to get you master success. You know, check the link out

below. I'm going to send some links here and click those links below. You can check out our SHIELD program where you can get a one-on-one private coach for three months, included lifetime membership, live trainings, AA12 week. Also Hybrid Coast. That goes goes with the coaching to really train you on what you're doing and why and how to make sense of what it you get a customized plan, you get a community, access to community for life, no hidden fees.

We're really proud of what we've done. The program I built is it's not scalable. I just have to say this for all my people who understand business and entrepreneurship. My my goal was to build something impactful for I built something scalable so we only can in the ship program. We only can take about 30 to 40 clients a a month and there's 8 million people in the world diagnosed with IBD in our demographic.

So we're only talking we can take 400 people a year in that and we're looking to scale that but it's hard to scale. It takes me about six months to a year to train train a coach and we're now training medical professionals. We got a new one coming on as a as a doctor of chiropractic medicine really excited about and and we also have IBD University which is for everyone who's on the budget who says Dane I love this. I need help.

I think I'm in on a rough time. I'm going to put that link below for IBD University as well. So I'll put both links for well, but they're both meant to have massive impact. IB University is a subscription model. It's meant to be a global solution. It's going to be scalable. It's supposed to be cost effective and SHIELD program is your place where you're going to get the lab, you're going, you're going to be able to access to labs, you have coaching in one plan, you're

going to get the community. That's that's our signature plan. So yeah, I'll definitely. Share all the links in the show notes for sure for people that are just listening what What is the website name? Yeah, Crohn's Colitis lifestyle.com and I know it's Crohn's CROHNSCOLITIS, lifestyle.com, Instagram at Crohn's Colitis under score Lifestyle or me, Dane Johnson. One and you'll find us and YouTube is youtube.com/crohn's Colitis Lifestyle and just choose a message or schedule a

call. We do do a complimentary 45 minute session just to talk about your case and your needs, make sure it's a good fit. We want to build integrity first. We want to put our best foot forward 1st. And really what's cool is the person who'll be talking on the phone has Crohn's colitis and they have reversed their symptoms of Crohn's colitis which I would have given my left foot to talk to someone like that when I was chronically sick.

And so we're all passionate. You know everyone on our team has this disease and we're you know, we just we believe in what we're doing. We're we're moving forward as much integrity as possible. We want to create a win Win All tides rise together and and again make sure you click the link below so we know you came from here and we can try to hook you up. I love it, man. Well, you are definitely fighting the good fight. You're on the the front line, you're changing people's lives

and for that I am forever great. But man, like this, this is what it takes. Like this is the grassroots bottom up movement that is truly changing lives and that is is powerful, man. So I appreciate what you do. I appreciate what you're what you're putting your time and effort and energy into. So keep doing it. Yep. And use Link. Use a yeah, appreciate it. God bless. Use Link. Keto Savage.

I'll have our team make that link so we know that we can get you guys hooked up. And a bonus for being here this long. I know it's been a long podcast and just appreciate you guys. And man, just thank you so much for having me and and allowing me to be introduced to your community and having me here. I am. I'm grateful. I'm humble. I love. I love what we do. I want to bring us together. I want to bring bring us together with integrity. I want to.

I believe, all right tides rise together. We don't have to. We don't have to be at a fighting amongst ourselves about stuff that doesn't matter. Let's get results. Get results that's the same message I try and share and I can tell that you're passionate about this man. Like, I can tell that it's it's positively impacted your life. And because of that you're able to, you know, share that. And whenever you talk with somebody that that comes from that and is living, then it's

you can't hide. There's no mask. That's just true. It's honest, it's pure and that's exciting. That's that's energizing. So I appreciate the conversation more than you know, ma'am. So keep doing what you're doing. God bless guys. Thank you so much. Healing is possible. See you, Dane. Take care, ma'am. Tip.