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The Work Podcast Episode 22 - 50 Miles and Competition Updates

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Here’s a fun one with a hard stop at the end. We kick things off recapping the 50-Mile March for Veterans—166 of us trekking from Lincoln to Omaha through the night. We talk prep, mindset, and why this year’s trail change saved our feet, plus the little systems that make a big difference (compression socks, Salty Britches, electrolytes, and elevating at every stop). There’s a powerful moment about a veteran who completed the whole thing in a wheelchair—one of those reminders that the body follows the mind when the cause is bigger than you.

From there we shift into community: quarterly Savage retreats (small, intimate, one expert, one big Airbnb) and ideas for an obstacle-race edition. We also give you a behind-the-scenes update on our September show—venue, flow, and a stacked competitor swag bag that genuinely overdelivers. Think full-size Performance Gains Peaceful Dreams, Redmond Re-Lyte Immunity and Energy, Keto Brains samples, a full Keto Brick, premium shirt and bottle, plus a few surprise adds. The goal: treat competitors like royalty and set a new standard for show-day experience.

On the product front, we launched Carnivore Cake Pop and Carnivore Primal Fudge at the same time (finally!) and talk through a small tweak to the Cake Pop tallow rendering on batches dated Aug 19–21. Same macros, slightly firmer, extra clean mouthfeel—honestly awesome straight from the fridge. With cooler weather rolling in, we’re also past the worst of summer melt drama; the new packaging keeps things tidy if a brick does soften in transit.

We round it out with trail talk from Devil’s Den, situational awareness, why carrying yourself with confidence matters, and a little father-son jiu-jitsu daydreaming. Heads up: the episode ends abruptly due to a technical hiccup, but we’ll pick up the thread next week.

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Transcript

What flavor you got today I. Got a CRAN Raspberry. I bought the the variety pack of the new flavors. I'm a I'm a fan of CRAN Raspberry. I think that Redmond CRAN Apple is my favorite. That's a good one. That's a good one. I think that was a seasonal kind of a yeah, small batch release of that. Yeah, I like it, man. We have today's Tuesday. We didn't film on Monday because I was travelling. Did the March. Did the 50 mile March. We can talk about that.

We got some competition stuff talking about. We just did a launch. We had a busy weekend, man. It was eventful. It was eventful. On a lot of different. Topics Let's start with the March because my feet are feeling it. So I went to Nebraska, linked up with Jamie Seaman, her husband Ben Seaman and Joe Wilson and Jonathan Shane came with us and we did the 50 mile March for veterans. fiftymilemarch.org. We basically marched from Lincoln to Omaha, NE through the

night. We start at 2:00 PM and we finished 22 hours later through the night. 22 hours represents 22 vets that take their lives daily and we raised over 750,000. I'm not sure what the number is right now, but it was 750,757 thousand or something last time. Look, that's. Great. But it was more than just you guys. It was a whole. It was 100 and some people. Yeah, there was 166 of us that March and I think we had like 78910 that dropped out throughout the March.

But one of our best finishing, I mean, we'd had a lot of people drop out last year 'cause last year it was like, so they changed the route this year. I've done it five years in a row now. It's been going on six years. The original walkers, there was only six of them. Then the next year there was like 38 of us. And I was in that group. And then I've just done it every year since. And this was the 6th year, but last year and every year other than this year.

The rat has always been from the steps at the Capitol in Lincoln, NE on the highway the whole time to Omaha, NE. Through the night. Through the night. But just like on the highway, I mean, you're walking on the shoulder of the highway the whole way.

It's like feet on the pavement. And last year it was obnoxiously hot and humid and we had people dropping pretty frequently throughout the entire March. I mean, we had people like we, I remember we were going up the hill, there's like 1 hill the very last mile and you go up that hill and then that's where everybody greets us the finish. But there was one guy that was literally walking up that hill and trying to stop walking and be like done with it. And that's.

Literally like physically like he was. Done and like Jonathan and some other guy grabbed each shoulder and like drunk him up the hill for the last little bit but this year they changed the realm and it was like 30 miles of it was on like this scenic wooded outdoors trail with like, you know chipped limestone as the as the. Foundation so. Much more forgiving on your feet. And this was the by far the easiest year physically for me. I mean, I was hurting by the end of it. By like mile 20.

You're hurting. But yeah, I wasn't near the suffering that I had in years. Probably the first year that I was on crutches for a week after. Oh, man. And like today, I went for a run. They had some, they had some prepping protocols and stuff in place or. Yeah. So this year they got a lot stricter with everything because there's more marchers, more safety hazards. So everybody had to do a A20 mile qualifier ruck. So we did that several months back. So 20 miles at a certain time

with a certain weighted pack. So I knocked that out several months ago and then I've just been, most people that do it are local to that area. So they'll have like planned practice rocks. I've seen those online and they'll meet up. And do like 10 miles on a weekend. I'm in Arkansas obviously, so I didn't do those. But I was trying to walk a lot more the month of August. So I've been running 2 miles in the morning, every morning, trail runs to kind of work on my

ankles. You got some crazy creaking on your chair there, Chip, You hear me? I don't think. Hopefully the mics don't. Be I don't think the mics pick it up, but I can pick it up. I get some DVD 40 over there and and then on the weekends I would walk a longer distance. So first weekend in August, I did 5 miles, then 10 miles, then 15 miles, then you and I did the last one before the March itself, which was like 22 miles

that I did. And then you did ten of those with Yeah, I did have to or 11 I guess. And yeah, so my feet felt great. There's like basically there was 6 legs of the trip. And then you have like sometimes an hour, sometimes 30 minutes, there's 190 minute stop in between. And that's basically like you get there and there's like a massive support staff there. So like they have your chairs ready to rock.

They have like, you know, electrolytes ready, coffee ready, you know, food for people doing that. And you just, you know, priorities of work, they call it you check your feet, make sure you doctor any blisters up. But my protocol was I would just my I've got it dialed in this five years I've done it now. So basically I put salty britches, which is like this Lube that you just goob up all around your toes, up in your junk up in your. Anywhere there would be. Chafing, you just Lube up with

them. And then I put like these really nice compression socks on and I didn't even take my socks off after I put them on. So normally people take their socks off and doctor aired their feet up at each stop. I just gooped up, put my socks on and I never took my socks off the whole time. Like I could tell that I didn't

have any blisters. So I felt great and I would just get to the spot, get some electrolytes in me, take my shoes off, elevate my feet, put my little eye mask on and close my eyes for as long as I had before. It was like 20 minutes till we started again. Then I would put my shoes back on, goob up and then. Start walking nice, did it. Cool off during the night like you guys walked through the night did it. Cool off. The weather was awesome this year. I mean, it was like much cooler.

There was a cold front that came in the day prior and it rained a bunch, so it's a little humid, but it was much cooler. So the weather wasn't crazy. It wasn't like 100° like it has been in years prior. I think it was like 80° the majority of the time and then at night it cools down to like 50 or 60, so kind of chilly I. Mean you're wearing like that'd be comfortable. It's comfortable, but you got like a layer of sweat on you. So like you're cold.

So like you're, I'm putting like my, you know, hoodie and everything on to kind of stay warm. And then we walk in those stents and then like we walk to the longest stent was just under 12 miles and there's like a little break in between. But in that little break there was no chairs. There was, it wasn't like a formal break. It just like a little little breathe it before the rest of it. But most of the stents were like 10 miles, that 11 mile, 12 mile 1. And there's a couple of shorter

ones like 7 miles. But yeah, there was one guy, man, he's got my full respect. He doesn't have use of his legs. He's like a veteran that doesn't have the use of his legs. He did the whole thing in a wheelchair. Manual just. Yeah, there's footage of him going up this gravel hill in a freaking wheelchair, just like with his hands. And I'm like, man, no matter how bad my feet are hurting, I'll look at him and I'm like, I have nothing to complain about. Yeah, if he can do it, you got

nothing to complain about. It is crazy man, like it is totally all mental. I mean that first year I did it I didn't prep it all. I bought a pair of shoes, didn't break them in, didn't wear socks. I mean, like my feet were blistered and bloodied by the first leg and by the end of it I felt like I was walking on club feet and that's when I was doing that one mile run every. Day. So like the last 10 miles, I ran one of those miles with like club feet, man. I was just. I was hurting.

That was a good lesson. Yeah, so I, I conditioned my feet a little better now and I got everything dialed in with the socks and what gear I need, but 50 miles is no joke, man. Like it, it's a it's a lot. It's. Pretty impressive and. Then Jonathan and I did push ups at every stop. So we did 50 push ups every stop and it was cool man. It was cool. Nice. So we're going to talk to him to do it next year. Who? Me. Yeah. OK, you're not in prep next year.

That's true. And it's cool is Jamie, Ben, Joe and Jonathan are all in prep. So they were hitting their macros and everything throughout it all. And then one year I did, it was like we did the March the day before my peak week started. So I was super depleted at that point, but the lighter you are because you're leaner, the easier. It is, I'm sure. Yep. So so do you. Did you eat anything to offset all that caloric burn or you

just let it? I was pretty much like, so I'm doing the ultra day fasting right now. So the day before the March was a feeding day for me. So I had an extra 1000 calories. So it was like 6500 calories for me that day. And then I didn't eat it all the day the first day of the March. And then once it hit the next day, I had like a little bit of food during the March and then like not much like 1 brick I think, and then a meat stick. And then we had steaks that night.

So but yeah, I, I dropped 5 lbs after the March was over. I had like 100 and 507,000 steps. Wow. The estimated caloric expenditure was like 10,000. That's crazy. So yes, it's pretty brutal, man. That's a good day. Pretty what? What shocks me though, is like, I'll start and I'm looking at everybody, kind of not sizing them up because it's not like it's a competition, Like we're

doing this for the veterans. But I'll look at people and I'm like, man, they've got, you know, they're carrying a lot of extra weight. I'm watching them move and there's like obvious, you know, stress on their joints because they're like hobbling and they just have, they're carrying weight and they're carrying a lot of extra body fat. And I'm like, there's no way they're going to make this. And they do, man, they do. It blows my mind.

And then you have somebody that's like fit and trim and lean and winds up bowing out. You know, you never know. It's all mindset. Yeah, for mental game, definitely. Yeah, we'll do it. We'll do it again next year. You'll you'll do it Wednesday and you'll see all. That could maybe, maybe that could be a retreat or something. Or we'll get a group Keto Savage group. Yeah, a little savage retreat. Do some marching, raise some money for vets. I'm all for it. OK, Speaking of retreats, yeah,

we're going to do another. One, we were talking about that just the other day. Yeah, So we're going to talk about this on the live call tonight for the tribe, but we're going to. So we did a a, a retreat this year in February with Bill Schindler. Awesome. And the way we've kind of formatted him is I'll book out a big Airbnb that everybody can stay in. We'll have one expert speaker

cap it at like 15 people tops. And it just be like the whole weekend and much more intimate, like we're all staying in the same place. It's just way better that as opposed to like a massive conference where it's just like you're just a number. There's a place for those two. Obviously, I enjoy going to them. I enjoy speaking at them. I enjoy supporting them, but I like more of the intimate setting.

So we we did the one with Bill Schindler, which was awesome in February. And we're going to start doing those probably on a quarterly basis, but we'll probably not do it third quarter because the competition will be typically in September and then fourth quarters up in the area because that's kind of when the holidays kick up, Thanksgiving, Christmas. But first and second quarter for sure going forward, we'll have a Savage retreat and the next one

may be some type of obstacle course run where we just all get a big Airbnb and sign up for like a Spartan Race or? Go rough mudder or whatever. Or something. So we'll get that dialed in and that'll probably be we might do one fourth quarter this year or we might just hold it off and do first quarter next year, but that'll be in the works. For sure I'm in. Definitely in for that. Yeah. Speaking of the competition, Jay

Shane just left here. He's headed home, but he dropped a pretty cool, exciting announcement regarding the competitor swag bags for our competition in September. Our swag bags are going to be next. Man, I was just doing the math on like, what's going to be in there and you're going to get more stuff in your swag bag than it even cost you to register to compete. Yeah, and it's not like cheesy stuff that you'll never use. Like a lot of times I'll go to a show and I'll get a swag bag.

It's like a, it's like a crappy bag with like 100% polyester like shirt that's been like heat stamped and then like some supplements that I would never use this. Or like bars? Or like a. Bar like a yeah, so stuff I would never really use this year we I mean what is the dollar value add currently? It's like 180 bucks or something like that in climbing. So so you're going to get well Jay Shane, he is he's the man behind performance gains supplements and he just dropped

a new flavour. He's dropped two flavours now of his sleepy supplement, Peaceful Dreams, I guess it's called, and he's going to give everybody a full size canister and that's like 50 bucks, 40-50 bucks. And then Redmond relight, I had to call with them yesterday. They're giving everybody a full size canister of relight immunity and a full size canister of relight energy. There's, you know, 9000 bucks.

So no single serve. Non single serve, no, but they're also going to give everybody A7 stick pack, sampler pouch and that's another, I don't know, 20 bucks whatever. And we've got keto brains on board. They're stocking everybody. They're we're giving everybody samples of keto brains, nootropic coffee Creamer and the creatine stick packs that they just dropped. They're 5 milligrams of creatine monohydrate and a travel friendly little stick pack, which is amazing.

What else we got? We got obviously you're going to get a shirt. Shirt The swag bag itself is like nice. Like it's like a fabric, not like one of those plasticky ones, a branded water bottle that my uncle's making for us. And then we got a full keto brick obviously. So that'll be in there. The shirts are the ones that we're printing in house, so high end shirts and. And we've got some other

promotional bar. Yeah. Oh yeah, we've got a carnivore bar, yeah, full size carnivore bar, which is top notch, thanks to them. And there's all the some other promotional stuff in there for some local like Relax and Renew Med Spa here in Farmington and Competitor's Edge Massage, Competitor's Edge Massage Massage. They're throwing in some goodies and it just keeps getting bigger and bigger and better. So I'm. Pretty sure. I'm excited to be in the show just for the swag bag.

I mean, not really, but it's going to be, you're going to get a stockpile. So this is my first year as promoter, obviously, and you've been helping me a lot get everything organized because you and I both competed a bunch. I've judged a bit. It's OK. I know what a good show looks like. And I want to do that and then some. And initially, like it's like, man, we don't have very many registrations. Like I'm there's a lot of things moving pieces that haven't come together yet.

Like hopefully it'll be good. Hopefully it won't, but I'm going all in with it. But now a month down, this show's going to be bad and fast, man. Like we've got so much support, so much branded everything, like regardless of how many competitors we have. And I think we'll have a pretty good turn out. We've got pretty good turn out. Already registered for the first show, which is awesome. But like, whoever's there is going to be treated like freaking royalty.

Excited they're. Just going to keep spreading the positive word of mouth and it's going to be a good thing this. Is going to be the kind of show where this is the inaugural year. This is going to be the kind of show where people that compete in it are going to be like, Dang, that was awesome. I want to try to keep that one on my calendar for next season or the following season or whenever they compete again. That's kind of how I felt when I went to I'm actually wearing the shirt.

The Wisconsin Warrior, Tony and Courtney Spaeth put that one on and that was the kind of show I helped out backstage several years expediting. And I always thought, man, they do it. This is a fun show. It's high energy, the music is awesome, the lighting is awesome. It's in a Performing Arts Center that's like top of the line, cutting edge, modern. It was just a really exciting, awesome experience. Versus going to some old smelly gymnasium or like conference

room in a hotel or whatever. And they have to build the stage and they have to bring the lights in and they got speakers on stands and all that kind of stuff, which I'm not, I'm not talking down on. I'm just saying like when you compare the 2 and that's what this yours is going to be like that it's going to be. We spared no expense. Like the venue is the best venue I can get. Like everything is just the best.

Like if my name's on and I want it to be just like we're striving for excellence here and I feel like we'll be able to deliver that. And we and we had the top of the line, one of the awesomest hotels in our mind like we were going to go do. What was the name of that one it? Was booked. It was like the graduate, I think, yeah. Yeah, and it was it was right on par with the kind of standards

we're trying to set. And it just so happened that they were booked out and had it all set up for a football game in town. So, but let's keep them in mind. Maybe next year that'd. Be awesome. Yeah, Because it's like a Notre Dame football game that same weekend. All the hotels were booked except for the one we got. And that from a convenience

standpoint's be perfect. That's actually going to work really, really well because it's within walking distance from Mozart Gym. Right off the the highway from people flying in, not far from the airport, right off, I mean literally within walking distance to the gym, which is the host gym, which is where we're going to be doing the tanning and the competitor check insurance on Friday. And I think competitors can lift for free. So that's cool. But so the convenience with the

hotels is there. I don't know what I've never stayed at that hotel. So hopefully the quality is there too. That's the only thing that I don't know for. Sure. Realistically speaking, though, you're not spending a whole lot of time there. Yeah. You come in, you tear off the bed sheets, you put your own sheets on there, you get a good night's sleep, and then everything else you know happens.

We got to think of something cool to do the next day on Sunday for anybody that's in town still and wants to link up. Well, some people will have photo shoots. I've got a photo shoot at Ozark. Yeah, and whoever else has signed up for the full blown photo shoot that'll happen there. But yeah, after that, it'd be awesome if we could. Maybe we can do. The game together I. Don't know, we'll think of something cool. I'll do some brainstorming but like the food is going to be legit too.

Oh yeah. Oh man, so. I think we mentioned this previously, there's been some more details added. So my dad is coming in. He's going to be bringing his massive smoker that he built. He's going to have 16 pork butts in there. He's going to start smoking that on Friday and he's going to have the trailer, the smoker, like everything there at the footsteps of the venue. And then Stan, who was at Bill Chandler's retreat, he's got, he does all regenerative agriculture. He does it right.

Like he rotates everything. Like he's giving us a full farm tour. Like he does it as it's supposed to be done. And he's got these chickens that are like meat bird chickens that he was raised, rotated, done the whole chicken tractor thing. He, he moved him like twice a day, every single day throughout their bringing up process. He charges 27 bucks a bird for those things basically. So significantly higher quality than what you're going to get at any groceries. Yeah, it's not golden plum.

Yeah, we're going to. We, we bought a bunch of those. And he's going to be on site cooking the chicken. So all the competitors, all the judges. And as long as supplies last, the attendees will have smoked pork butt and grilled chicken. That's like super high quality. That'll be awesome. That'll be good. That'll be so I'm I'm stoked it's coming up quick. It's only we're barely over a month out. Yeah, like it's right around the corner. I think 32 days or 31 days, something like that.

So if you're still on the fence about registering, definitely get registered. Swag bags are going to be legit. Plus we're doing a weekly drawing for any registrants that we have signed up to win some extra goodies day of show and it's going to be, it's going to be an experience. Naturalstatesavages.com. It's going to be good.com. What else is new? So while I was marching, I called you. It was like literally the final March, the final mile of on Sunday.

Yeah, on Sunday, as I'm walking up that last hill before I pressed that hill to be met by the greeting party, I called you at 11:50. And since I was marching and not at the computer, you were filling in for me, and you made the Keto Brooks live on the site. And we launched for the first time ever both Carnivore Cake Bop and Carnivore Primal Fudge simultaneously because like we've launched them both independently and that's always

gone over well. But people are always like, man, I wish they were both up there for the same at the same time. So I can just stock up on carnivore bricks. So we had both ingredients on hand. So we just made a solid batch of both flavors. Yeah, we got both Primal Fudge and Cake pop up for grabs right now, so. Still in stock. Yeah, still in stock and that was the first time I've ever not been the one on the computer for the launch. So that was a little nerve wracking, but.

It was fun. You rocked it. Yeah, you rocked it. It's not a not a tricky task. Also, Speaking of cake pop, we've got a different style tallow in a lot of those. We should mention that. Yeah. So the Primal Fudge was made with the tile that we've been using, the Carnivore cake pump that we made the week prior to last week was made with the tile that we've been using, the cake pump that was produced with I think production dates of August 18th, 19th. No, I think it's 19th, 20th and 21st.

So those three dates, if you have a cake pop, you look over on the package by date or package date and it says 1920 or 21. Those were made with a new variation of the tallow. So same supplier, but same, same high quality tallow, grass fed, finished all that good stuff, but different rendering process. So this tallow, because it was rendered differently, it's got a little bit less moisture activity. All the tallow is well below the USDA guidelines and whatnot. So you've been good there.

But like this one that was even lower, which means the texture is a little bit different. It's a little bit more solid, not near as much as the cacao based bricks, but more so than some of these later based tallow bricks. So it's a little bit harder and a little bit more stable in that regard. And it's just a little bit different from a taste and texture standpoint. I believe this rendering process has even higher additional profile. Yeah, superior.

So it's always kind of curious to see how people respond and what the feedback is from that, but. I like the new version better, to be honest. And I like cake pop. It's not my favorite flavour the the previous tallow, it's not my favorite flavour just 'cause I like other ones even more. But this might be, it's up there. Yeah, it's right up in there. So the cake pop, I like to eat out of the refrigerator.

So when it's cold and it's got a whole new flavour profile and texture, when it's cold, this new tallow, it's pretty Dang good. Yeah, so if you get one of those bricks, let us know what you think, 'cause we're always trying to just push the envelope and get better and better and better, again, striving for excellence. So if any of y'all get cake pop made with those three dates, let us know how you like them relative to the other variations of cake pop. The macros are all the same.

Yeah, I mean all the profiles all the same. It's just slightly different rendering process which resulted in different texture and slight variation in taste. But everybody that I've had sampled thus far has been a fan so. So I'm excited about it. So we'll see. Me too. It's always nerve wracking though when you like put out a product and wait for feedback, you know, but hope it's all positive. It's also getting cooler outside like this week it was a cold front came in.

It's like 80° right now. Yeah, even yesterday was like when I left, it was 66. Yeah, So hopefully we are on the tail end of people getting melted bricks. And like, I hate the melted bricks. Like I hate people getting melted bricks. But like, there's not really any way to hedge against that unless we start packaging with dry ice. And that would get crazy expensive for everybody. We might offer that next year. It's like this, you know, super expensive shipping option.

But the new packaging obviously keeps it from leaking and then people can pop it in the fridge. And that's honestly how I kind of like to eat. Yeah, the new packaging isn't isn't intended to keep them from melting, to keep them from leaking if they do melt. Exactly. But again, there's only four months out of the year where it's like high risk of melting, so hopefully we're on the tail end of that and people can start getting bricks that look like

bricks instead of blocks. So should be beautiful, beautiful. I didn't see you all weekend. Anything new and exciting in your world? Hiked 11 miles at Devil's Den. I saw that, yeah. That was mugged in you. I. Did not get injured, but some of my favorite trails were still closed and I'm assuming they're the one, the one or the ones connected to what they're still investigating out there. You hadn't heard there was a multiple murder situation last month? That's some of the not a trail.

I think it was last month. July, wasn't it? Yeah. Or was it in August? I forget, but I had tried to go out there the previous weekend and everything was roped off, caution tape doing how to enter. And I saw they posted something online earlier last week that they were going to reopen some of the trails. So I zipped out, zipped down there and went for an 11 mile hike. And I wasn't planning on going 11 miles and it took me almost 4 1/2 five hours ish.

But once I started going, I just was like man, this is just great. Just loving the outdoor, the weather, the fresh air, the sunlight. But I found myself hitting some of the trails that snaked way off, like off the beaten path. 0 phone service, 0 people, 0 trail maintenance. And I was every so often I would get like a weird chill, you know, from like head to toe.

And I'm like, OK, my instincts are telling me something might something might be watching me right now, you know, like, you just get that weird irky feeling. So I would stop and I'd look around and I don't want something like praying on me from up in a tree or, you know, because I was in obviously wilderness country. And I'm thinking, man, I need to get like, I carry a knife.

I, I have hesitated to carry my gun just because I don't have like a real comfortable way to carry it right now when I'm hiking and sweaty and hot. And you know, so I'm thinking maybe I should just get some bear spray because they make some pretty decent, you know, long range bear spray deterrent sprays, something that'll just take care of any type of wildlife. But I made it. I'm thinking even if I had to send a text right now, no go. Not happening. No go.

There's something good about that though, man. Like there it was. So peaceful, yeah. Just not, not if nobody could reach me, if there was like my phone risk was not going to go off. Yeah, I feel like, like when you get off the beaten path, because I experienced this when I'm hunting a lot, like there's no cell service, nobody could find me if I needed them to. So there's like this element of risk involved, but I feel like

that is liberating. Like men especially, like we need to have risk where like it all is on you to get back safely. And I feel like, I feel like we need that, you know it. Was it was cool. And then when I made the huge long loop and came back and started hearing voices and I was getting closer to the campground and everything, I could smell bacon and I'm like, all right, I'm back. OK, I made it and survived. But made it and survived. It's good.

Yeah. I want to start doing like off the grid, like back country hunting where it's like you go out there, you pack everything you need in your bag and you're just like off the grid, dude. Like I was listening to a book and it was staged in Alaska and they were doing Caribou hunting in Alaska. Like where they have to literally get flown in via. One of the huddle jumpers float

plane. Yeah, and like, like they, the plane's not coming back for three weeks, you know, so like they scheduled to pick you up in three weeks. So you do everything and then you meet back there and hopefully you meet back there, yeah. You're either there or not. Yeah, yeah. So like something like that I I could totally. Get behind. I've been in the Boundary Waters several times. Actually.

The first time I think I went when I was a kid in church youth group and they took a whole bunch of us out. And that was my first introduction into the Boundary Waters way up in northern Minnesota, kind of borderline of Canada. But that's pretty sweet. It's a pretty country. Oh, man, it's and there's, there's, you see, you see, no wires? No, it's phone towers, no power lines. You don't hear any motors because you go in where there's

no motors allowed. You pack everything in that you're going to take in, and you have to make sure you have room to bring whatever you don't use or don't eat or trash back out with you. You're on your own. Like you have a map, You have the Portage from lake to lake. Everything that you have in your canoe or on your body, you have to carry. Some of those portages were several miles. So you're carrying a canoe on

your shoulders. You got a huge like Duluth pack on your back and then your turtle pack, I guess they call it. So you have another huge stuffed pack on the front of you. So it helps kind of balance you forward to forward to backward and you're just huffing it up. Some of these steep inclines, they're rocky terrain. They're not maintained. No one takes care of them. It's pretty wild. And then you come out and you're

like, holy crap. It's a whole new part of the world that you just never really get to experience when you're surrounded by technology and hustle bustle. Yeah, it's such a distraction. Like phones are just, I mean, they're a great tool, but like, man, there's such a distraction. And like people, they don't even know how to not look at their phone. Like when you get on elevator and everybody just automatically, like you get multiple people on elevator, like nobody even looks at them.

You don't even. I know you don't even interact with people anymore, even on the street. Like I've been trying to go out of my way to just interact with random strangers on a day-to-day basis. You know, if I see someone I'll smile or say hey or nice shirt or something like that. Because half the time society now you encounter a stranger and instead of initiating any type of individual contact, you just look down or you look away. It's like society needs a little.

It's weird though, man, like talking about, you know, that mugging that happened and I don't know that situation. So this is not really a good example, but just like mugging in general, like people getting robbed, people getting broken into, people just, you know, being harmed. It's like so much of that, not all of it, but a lot of that could be resolved simply by like how you carry yourself because like so many people look like victims, like easy targets, like

they're hunched over. They're. Looking at they're not paying attention. They're not observant and they just look like prey, you know, where as if you walk around with your chin up, your shoulders back, making eye contact, having a firm handshake. Like we take that for granted. But nobody ever really messes with me. And I'm not a tall guy. Like I don't feel like I look very like intimidating, but nobody ever messes with me. I think a large part of that simply because I carry myself with.

It's your demeanor, yeah. Yeah, and I feel like if you carry yourself with confidence, your people are less likely to mess with you because like, OK, that guy's got something going on. I'm not going to, he's not going to be my first target to go try and attack and agree something, you know. So yeah, how you carry yourself is key. And you can't carry yourself well if you're constantly looking at your phone. That's true. Attracted.

So there's that. But I think they teach a lot of that in like martial arts and like jiu jitsu and stuff. Like when I put Rigel in jiu jitsu, at some point, he's probably going to get the conversation of like, look, this is how you carry yourself, you know, from the instructor. I'll have that conversation with him too. But that'd be good. I'm excited about that. I had a dream about jiu jitsu last.

Really. Yeah. I had a dream that I went to my first jiu jitsu class and everybody was like, don't mess with that guy. I'm like, I don't even know what I'm doing. So. That'll be fun. Are you gonna, are you gonna do jiu jitsu with him when he's in class? Or I don't know, I gotta go there and like see how that's involved. Like I I wouldn't just drop him and leave him, but I'm pretty sure it's like age 3 to 5 and they'll be a dedicated instructor there. I don't know if they have other

classes going on simultaneously. What would be cool is if they had like an adult class and that class going on the same time that he and I can both go into our own classes.

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