So I let me pull up some of these comments. From previous previous episodes. Yes, this is prior episode comments to let you all know that we do read WE. Do see the comments. Yeah, comments, but we have a few. Let me go here. So some we always start with little singing and somebody said what was that comment? There's a couple comments regarding whatever song. Don't sing that song again. I love this channel. Don't ruin it guys. So I'm wondering what what he I? Forget which song that was.
Yeah, that was the last one. I think you were singing Baby Shark, Wheels on the Bus, Wheels on the Bus, go round and round. Really. Yeah, I think it's what it was. So we will not sing Wheels on the Bus as our primary theme song. What are the comments? Were there one was asking about cars? Yeah. Yeah, so I I actually saw that comment and I typed out the list of cars that I have owned up until this stage of my life or driven. You got way more. Cars. I do, yeah. For some reason I'll.
Just start ripping and I'll talk about my 3. All right, so when I first got my learner's permit at 15, my parents had a 1988 brown ugly ass Dodge Caravan. And imagine rolling up to school, sliding that sliding side door open and your buddy's getting out and you're unloading out of a Dodge Caravan. The other one that my parents had, my dad had a think it was an 891989 Ford Ranger. Like extended cab, old manual transmission.
I got to drive that and me and one of my buddies, my best buddies were actually a couple buddies. We were just cruising on some Backcountry gravel dirt road and we hit a huge water puddle and it splashed up all underneath the the, the motor compartment and the undercarriage and everything. And it cracked one of the headers. My dad was so upset 'cause I came back in the driveway after that and the truck was so loud. It was like straight exhaust right out of the header 'cause
it was cracked. And you could, you could open the hood and you could look down in there and it was like, like it was cracked, cracked. And he spent so much time taking that thing apart and swapping that thing out in the garage. He was not a happy camper. But so I had a Dodge Caravan and a Ford Ranger. That was kind of when I was learning to drive. When I got my license, my parents bought me a little Ford Bronco two. It was just like this little unit that I just love to just
cart around. In 2 doors right? 2 doors. Yeah. And it was pretty. It's pretty neat. That was the first vehicle I technically owned and drove on my own. It's where I took myself to my first job. I kind of just kind of got my feet wet driving around by myself with my buddies and going and doing all kinds of stuff. Well, one afternoon I was having
a great day before work. I would do some shopping and I was coming home and I was on a Backcountry gravel road and I came around the corner at a stop sign and I kind of fishtailed a little bit sideways. It started kind of drifting and drifting and drifting and lost traction. I straightened it out and then a little bit I went over a bridge and as I can't kind of came up off, I think I lost a little bit of traction and I came down and I started fishtailing a little
bit more. I was screwing around, going too fast, I know, and I ended up spinning around and going in the ditch and put the thing on its side. So I was hanging there by my seat belt and the passenger side was empty. That just my clothes and stuff that I had bought that was all getting wet 'cause it was starting to fill up with water in this road ditch. It was a pretty deep ditch and I'm like holy crap. And I was only half a block from my driveway.
I could, I walked home. I could literally see it from climbing out. I climbed out like an army tank. I had to push the door up and open, climb out the top, walked home, called my parents. I was fine. Called the tow company. Tow company came and they ended up totalling the vehicle by the way they got it out of the
ditch. They had to hook on the over on the underside and like roll it up out of the ditch, but they rolled it onto its roof and then back onto its wheels, so they completely crushed it. How are your clothes? Wrecked, wrecked. So I was like so excited. I had just gotten a job. This is my first car. It was a sunny, sunny, sunny summer day and I'm like, I'm going to go do some shopping. I got to work tonight and just wrecked my whole day. So that was my first vehicle.
After that I had a Pontiac Grand Am GT 2 door that was that was hot with all the ladies of course after that. How old were you at that point? Oh man, I don't know, 16/17/18 kind of that end of high school era. You know, you, you get the loud stereo in there and you do all that kind of fancy shit after that. I think my next one, because I had that for quite a while.
My next one I was working at a car dealership and as a sales guy and somebody traded in a single owner mint condition 1999 Cadillac STS 4 door V8. Like just awesome. Like this deep maroon specialty paint colour Chrome wheels. It was like any high school college kids dream like stock stereo was thumping. That was my next vehicle. After that I traded up to a Buick Regal GS Turbo. That was when the Regal completely redesigned.
They came out with the all new body styling back in that time era and they looked like a little sporty cube. It was fun. It had a little turbo in it. After that I got a Chrysler 200. After that I picked up a 2015 Chevy Colorado Z71. Is that? A pretty slick little. Truck. Yeah, that those are nice. They're really come a long ways. As a mid size truck they are awesome.
Super versatile. A lot of people like totally convert them for like off road camping, like they'll put the rack on there in the tent and it's like perfect 'cause you can get in some pretty narrow trails. And they're not big. I use it for doing home inspections so I could get, you know, back country roads and it was 4 wheel drive and you know, had some suspension or some, a little bit of a lift and everything.
So then while I was doing home inspections, that was my primary gig, I picked up a secondary vehicle just kind of as my fun sport around town kind of vehicle. That was a 2016 Tesla Model SP-90 DL Plus. And that'll break. They don't have all those designations anymore. If you buy a Tesla Model S now, you just there's only like 2 choices. That meant it was Tesla Model SP-90. So it's a performance version of the 90. I think it's kWh capacity battery.
The D meant it was dual motor. So it's a front motor and a rear motor. So I will drive. So I will drive. The L designated that it had a ludicrous mode, which was a 10 or $15,000 upgrade enhancement at the time and the plus after the DL Plus meant it had Ludicrous plus mode, which was another paid for option. So anyways, this Tesla, I wasn't really I didn't need a Tesla, but I was doing pretty good by myself rocking my own self-employment. And I just said F it.
You know, I'm going to just find one. If I can find a used one, I'm going to find a used 1. So I found this used one on the Tesla website. 1 owner free unlimited supercharging that would transfer from that first owner to one more owner, which would have been me. And like I got a test drive something. So I went and test drove a Tesla Model S turbo or a dual, you know, high performance 1. And I'm like, I this is this is
crazy. So I ended up getting that drove that for a couple years, even brought it to a drag strip, did some street legal nights, smoked some crazy muscle cars. And there I am just like you just punched the gas pedal and it's, you know, there's no noise. It's pretty crazy. Anyways, that was a fun car. Got rid of that. Traded my Chevy Colorado and my Tesla in for a 22 Ford Bronco. You know the new stem and those that are more recent. That was pretty cool.
Didn't any, didn't need anything for doing home inspections anymore because I relocated here. So just recently actually last year in 2024, I traded my Bronco in for what I have now and it's a Kia K5. So how many is that in total? So that is including the two that my parents had as I was learning. That's 12345678910. I'm on 11 or 12. Yeah, me, me, man. But you, you were telling me the other day like you hang on to your, you just run the heck out
of them. So. So my first vehicle, my granddaddy, after he passed away, I got his old truck. It was a 1975 long wheelbase Chevy pickup truck and it was I called it the Blue Goose. It was baby blue and I was super proud of it, but it did. I spent more time working on it than actually driving him. Had a four barrel carburetor. So like, you punched the gas on that and you just like literally watched the gas. Oh yeah, I bet. Yeah. So terrible gas mileage, terribly hard to park.
Like I always got in trouble at high school. Like people would call me up to the front office and tell me to move my truck because I would like park. And since it was long wheelbase and there was no like power steering or anything in it, like I would take up two spots every time no matter what. So I was always getting trouble for that. So that was my first vehicle and then I needed to get something more reliable, more consistent. I wanted to like actually own and buy and work for.
So I basically was working 4 separate odd end jobs like you know, cutting some firewood in the winter, doing a whole bunch of yard work in the summer, mowing, weed, eating, all that jazz. And I did that working for my uncle, saved up $5000 and my folks lent me another $1000 and I bought the truck that I currently have that I've had the majority of my life. It's a 2004 3.7 liter V6 Dodge Ram pickup truck. That's your white one.
Yeah, and it's manual everything, manual windows, manual transmission, manual everything. But I love that truck. Like I've got so many memories in that truck, like taking the place as a 2 wheel drive truck should never go, getting stuck on numerous occasions. I mean that truck was what Crystal met me in. So that was like the truck that we were dating them when we moved from Washington back to Arkansas. I took all my belongings and fit it in the back of that truck
because I didn't have much. I built a big wooden box behind it, plywood box and put all my stuff in there, strapped it shut, drove from Washington to Arkansas and that was my truck. And then when we when we moved back here, I was convinced that we were going to do the whole van life thing, like I was broke in any money. And so we're just going to let live on minimal means and we're going to live out of a van that we convert into like a livable space.
So I bought a 2020, I believe, maybe no 2018 Dodge Ram, those cargo vans, Promaster, I think is what it was. And that's what we had that we're going to convert and live out of. But that's when the keto brick started picking up. So we started using that for the business like shuttle and supplies and ingredients and stuff back and forth to the kitchen.
So that became that was pretty much my daily driver too, though, because like I would have my truck, but it was always breaking down on me. So I was using this big freaking cargo van as Crystal and my daily driver because she had like this Chevy Cobalt that was totally junk and that kind of crapped out on her. So we're just using this cargo van in my truck as our daily drivers.
So I had that and then I bought in 22 about my current truck, which is that 22,022 GMC Sierra SLT30500, big massive truck, 22,500 LB tow capacity because I eventually want to get like tractors and travel trailer and stuff for going to competitions and conferences. So I wanted to get something that I could tow anything I wanted with. So that's what I've got now. Plus neither the cargo van or my
truck could have a car seat. And once we started having kids, like when we had Roger, like we have to have a vehicle with a car seat. So I got that. So we feel safe driving it. Crystal got a Tahoe in 2020, upgraded from the Cobalt to that. That's pretty much her car. So she's got that, I've got the truck and then that's pretty much it. I guess we got that rig. So the cargo van crapped out on the way to keto Con one year transmission went the bunk.
I think you were with us right Chip, like we, we had to move on the way to the conference for like running short on time the transmission totally. And you had a bunch of bricks and product. And Oh yeah, we had all of our boost supplies, the apparel stuff, all of our bricks. It's like middle of the summertime headed down to Texas for the conference, and the transmission craps out not very
far from here. Like, I think probably we'd made it about an hour before the transmission went belly up. So like, OK, what do we do? So we went and got a U-Haul truck and then transferred everything from the van to EU Haul. Went there for the conference. And on the way back, I called the dealership that we had dropped it off on. And they're like, yeah, it's pretty much totaled. So what do you want to do? And I'm like, well, will you buy it from me?
So I sold them the van. They're on site pretty much. And then I bought that 1999 Freightliner, massive ambulance conversion as our company vehicle. So now we've got that gnarly looking, you know, rig out front. Looks like a SWAT vehicle. Yeah, looks like a SWAT vehicle. Flat black painted. We'll we'll get like a wrap on it at some point, but that's technically one of our vehicles as well. So sweet. That's pretty much my list right
there man. Yeah, Speaking of vehicles, super funny story, kind of on a little bit of a tangent, but not necessarily one of the keto cons. No, it was the convention in Omaha, I think. Yeah, hard to kill. Hard to kill. Nope. It was Keto Con in Texas. I think it was one of the years before I worked for you guys and I was going to fly in I wasn't going there on behalf of Keto Brick or Liv Savage or anything like that. I was just going as an attendee kind of meet up with you guys
and just be there. And I, I was trying to pinch pennies a little bit during that trip or save a few bucks here and there as I could. So when I went to choose a rental car, I said just one of the one of the best prices was just the economy dealer's choice or manager's choice or whatever. And it didn't tell you what you were going to get. So I chose that just because it was the cheapest option.
It was just myself. So I get to the Hertz counter or whatever and I'm like, hey, yeah, I'm just here to pick up my reservation or my rental. And they're like, OK, what's your number? That I give them all my information and they're like, OK, it looks like you chose manager special. So that just means we allocate whatever we have a lot of currently on the lot, like whatever we no one's renting for the day. That's what we throw you. And I'm like, OK, cool, what's
that? It's a 2022 cargo van. Like full length cargo van, no windows, nothing. And I'm like, you realize what this is going to look like with a dude with a mustache cruising around in a town. He has no idea where he's going. I don't even know. I didn't even get that far. I'm like, what are my other options? Like well, for this amount of money you can upgrade and we can put you in this or whatever. And I end up getting like a Dodge Challenger or something.
So my penny pinching endeavour actually backfired and I ended up paying more for the upgraded vehicle than what I could have from the onset. So. You have a cargo van man. Man, if you ever do the manager's Choice or whatever they call it on there, that doesn't show you what you're going to get, just be, yeah, you don't know what you're going to get. Yeah. So, yeah, that was one of the listener comments was a car breakdown. We had a few others asking about like cortisol question or not
cholesterol questions rather. I'm about LDL. I'm going to do a deep dive on that one. So I'm not going to talk about that. Now. Protein threshold, I've done quite a few topics on that, but we've got quite a few questions in here, so we might not just like we should. Yeah, we should do like AQ and a session. So keep the questions coming guys. If you have anything specific you wanna yeah chat about, we can. We'll just, we'll probably do that next week. Honestly.
We'll just take all the questions, put them in a list and we'll just tackle. Try to hit a few of them. Yep, so that'd be good. But in other news, still no baby. Still no baby, You guys are what you're overdue now, right? Or. You. Due date week. Due date week was last week, so yeah, we're technically over the 40 week mark and Rigel was late too, so we kind of anticipated this. Everybody says second baby comes sooner but you. Know that's just.
The way our our world works. He's just in there baking. The baby, yeah, I, I told we're talking yesterday in the meeting and like he's going to come out with a full set of hair. I'm like, man, he's not even working on the hair right now. He's already got that. He's working on the mustache now, so. He's already employed, he's going to clock in when he comes. Out. Yeah, for sure we could use him. We could use him, yeah. So still no baby. So Crystal's getting kind of
antsy, stir crazy. She's doing all the stretches, all the spinning babies, all the stuff, trying to get this little guy moving. But. 'Cause you have family in town that's ready to help, right? Yeah, so her sister Heather and daughter Caroline, they came in prior to the 40 week mark cause Crystal was convinced that he was going to come a little bit early. So she they came to help with Rigel and if we had to go to the hospital, like they could be at home with Rigel.
So she kind of feels bad for her because she hadn't her come early and was still waiting on the baby. I mean, there she's she's a school teacher, so they're out for the summer right now anyway. So she's flexible, but she's obviously away from all of her family in Washington. So yeah, just kind of one of those situations, you know, hurry. Up and wait.
But yeah, I mean, at this point, I mean, like, she's doing everything she can do. And it's like you just got to have faith, hope for the best, hope all is healthy, and be at peace with it. Can't force nature. Can't force nature. That's what we got going there. We got all of my I don't. Did we talk about blood work on the Last Work podcast? We may have a little bit with some of your FGF 21 high fat. I don't think I had the hormones back yet. Probably not, no.
You didn't have hormone stuff? Back so I'm about to do a full blown dedicated podcast on that experiment specifically. So I'm not going to go into crazy detail with that here, but I will say I took three weeks in between blood draws, had that week kind of returned to baseline intake of 3000 calories, kind of like a washout, intuitive eating. Then I did the experiment for two weeks, eating 1000 calories
above baseline. So 4000 calories a day, 400 grams of fat a day, less than 9% of my calories coming from fat. And in that time between lab markers, all of my lipids improved, which was interesting. I mean, my triglycerides dropped, my LDL dropped. Like did not expect that eating twice as much fat. Basically. What I really didn't expect was my hormone markers. I didn't really honestly expect much of a change in such a short
time period. But my total testosterone more than doubled, went from 334 to 696, and then my free testosterone went from I think like 27 to 56. So it practically doubled as well. Did you say that? Did you say 9% of your calories coming from fat? Protein. Protein. OK, I I I thought I heard you say fat, but just to clarify in case. You didn't. Yeah. Yeah, like fat was. Super super. High fat to 87%. Super low. Protein super low. Kind of mimicking the amount of
protein in the SD sugar diet. Yes, pretty much mimicking the basically the exact opposite. So for all intents and purposes and for hyped up headlines, you could theoretically say I more than doubled my testosterone naturally doing the exact opposite of the sugar diet. That'd be a little viral click bait thing for you. So I don't know what the hormones would look like had I done the sugar diet, but I'm obviously not going to do the sugar diet.
But I would have a hard time thinking that it would have a doubling effect to testosterone like this has. Well, I think some of the people who are venturing down the sugar diet pathway, are they doing this type of blood work? I don't. Know I mean I'm I don't know if people are as. Are they just? I think they're just. Kind of winging it. I mean, I'm sure something you're just. Trying to get shredded. Yeah, that's yeah.
And see, that was not my goal. Like I didn't, I increased calories, I didn't drop calories or even keep calories constant. So interesting to say, Liz, I'm, I'm going to again talk about this in depth on my experiment podcast, but I think this would have two specific use case scenarios. One, if you're in a longer prep and you want to have a bump in your metabolic rate like you, so we'll try that for you after your first competition, 'cause you'll still have another two
months of prep. So increase your calories, increase your fat ratio. Now the only thing I'm thinking it's just a quick math here. Man, is it? Is it really two months? I'm gonna die. Yeah, 'cause I mean, if you're if you're first, your. Show is 12 1/2 weeks from today, so yeah, it'll be 10 weight. It'll be holy. If you do a show in November, man, it's it's going to be crazy.
But The thing is like the way I structured my experiment was I had 9% of my calories coming from protein and I was eating 4000 calories. So if we wanted to mimic the same thing with you. So let's just say you're at 2000 calories. Yeah, 'cause right now I'm out around 1718 hundred refeeds, weekly refeeds are now in play. So it kind of averages a little higher for the for the daily intake over the week. Right.
But if we if we just wanted to make it simple, say 2000 calories, 9% of that is 180 that divided by 4, that's 45 grams of protein a day. So for you to do the experiment with the same, you know, replicating the same format that I did. So what? Would my fat intake be then? It's about a four to one ratio. Is it grams or calories? It's it's 4 to one in grams. In grams, so 4 to one, that's 180 grams of fat roughly. Yeah, so quite a bit more fat and and that that's counting
carbs and protein. And I wasn't quite at 4:00 to 1:00 like Nick and I were doing it together and I think he was doing it based off of net carbs. And I've always tracked total carbs. So my total carbs would have knocked me out of that 4:00 to 1:00, but not by much. And I had to pretty much find some way to absorb all the fat
that I was eating. So I was eating a lot of cauliflower rice which I don't normally normally eat, but I would have like 200 to 300 grams of cauliflower rice at night to absorb the 8 tablespoons of butter and ghee that I was having. Sweet. I'm excited to try that because that'll be, you know, hands on experiment that hasn't been probably leveraged in any preps. Yeah, ever. Yeah, it'll be interesting for
sure. But we'll try it with you and I, I feel safe trying it with you because I'll be able to see your body's response and do whatever tests you want real time with you here on site. But if it goes terribly awry, we've got plenty of time before your next show. So this would be the ideal time to test it down.
And then if it works and I'm also able to replicate it and myself when I do my next prep and it I'm able to replicate it to my clients as well, then we'll make like a stand alone submodule in the course for this as a use case scenario in a prep and that'll be added to the Savage system protocol. We can get some sweet content out of it, too, yeah, some good data, some good content. We could do Dexas. We could do the whole thing. Blood work.
Dexas compositioning. It'd be hard to get any viable feedback like on a DEXA scan with because I mean we would probably only do it for a week. Maybe 2? And like a two week gap between DEXA you probably. Won't see much fluctuation there but the blood. Work. I mean, seeing a doubling effect on testosterone was insightful. You know, 'cause I mean, your testosterone's always at a baseline much higher than mine, but it's still waning with for you in this prep.
I mean, it's dropped down like 300 or 400. Points a couple 100. Points, I think, yeah. So if we can have an acute flux upwards of that halfway through your prep or on the tail end of your prep, that would be obviously advantageous. So it'll be good. Awesome. But I have to warn you, man, I don't think you're going to feel more satiated even with eating more calories because I mean, 45 grams of protein and nothing but
a bunch of oils. I mean, like you're going to get less food volume than you currently, right? So. But I can probably squeeze in some extra brick. Yeah, you can definitely squeeze in some brick, some fatty coffee, So it'll be a nice change of base for you for sure, probably. Fatty coffee and a little brick every morning. Yeah, that duck fat came in clutch though for me. Those cans of duck fat? I meant to. Tell you, I think I have some duck fat.
Got some duck fat and some oh man, what is it? Forget maybe some rendered pork fat or something at home. I forget. Got a couple jars from like Epic. The duck fat's good. And then I was doing that SCT oil, which is pretty good. I like that a lot. It's tasty. So yeah, that's cool. I'm excited to do the deep dive recording on that. I don't know if Nick's going to use my data or not because I didn't because I had already started an experiment before he wanted to join forces on this
experiment. So like my run in week period skewed things a little bit and from like a strictly speaking scientific all variables controlled standpoint like it may negate the findings, but I know my body, I know what my maintenance is. I know. I mean, I've got years, I've got like 17 years of tracked macro data. You are pretty anal with all the apps and the data I. Mean everything.
So like I know how my body responded and how to be actionable with that information, whether or not he wants to put it into a, you know, a scientific based paper that I mean, that's I totally understand, like I he's. He's super analytical. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's. Wealth of information, super knowledgeable, but I'm coming at it more from like, OK, how can I use this for my clients? How can I apply this to actual human beings, especially in the context of a competition prep or
composition goals. So you have different strategies that you get in that I guess in that regard. But we'll see. He and I are going to do another follow up call at some point, I'm sure. Cool. So that's exciting. We got some, we're working on some some carnivore bricks in the kitchen right now. Not going to tell you what the flavour is just yet, but they're carnivore bricks.
They're going to be good. Speaking of working on bricks in the kitchen, we've been trying, we've been, we've been using a newer style packaging film to try to counteract any potential leakage. So it is a thicker multi layer membrane has to run through our machinery at a different speed so that it has enough time to heat seal and it's thicker so our machine back there is ornery. Finicky. So I think we talked about this
a little. Bit we may have, but we just yesterday, was it yesterday or two days ago where we had just a? Yeah, So we, we're not doing cold packs this summer because they're hit and miss. Half time they work, half time they don't. And we it was. A waste of money? Yeah, it was a waste of money. So, OK, if we can't do the cold packs, let's just invest more in, you know, packaging that's guaranteed not to leak practically. So we're using two times thicker film, more than two times
thicker film. Two times the cost film. Two times the cost film. It's a cosmetic web film. I think it's like 4 layers. I'm not sure I'd look at the spec sheet, but it's literally rated to go to the moon from a pressure sensitive standpoint. Whereas most packaging is rated to like get over the Rocky Mountains out West, this is rated to like go to the moon without bursting. Wind sealed properly. Yeah, wind sealed properly.
So 'cause like if the bricks melt in the summer, especially the tallow ones, which they're practically guaranteed to do, like that just kind of is what it is. You can throw them in your fridge. They're totally fine to eat the taste just fine. They may not look like bricks. They're going to be a little bit, you know, deformed, misshapen, but all the quality of the ingredients are still intact.
But if they, if the packages burst due to poor package sealing, like that's on me. Like I need to fix that problem, which is why we're doubling down on this, you know, film upgrade. But anytime you change anything in production, especially with a machine that's finicky like ours, it's a headache. You know, like we've had to read, we have to test things out, change the the settings and troubleshoot non-stop.
And we burned through a lot of film that we can't use, but we got it sealing good as of yesterday. As of yesterday, it was on a. It was on a sweet roll yesterday. Once we got it rolling, it was non-stop. It's good. And I'm, I'm really optimistic about these because we've had a few people e-mail saying that their packages were burst, but
they were all that. I could tell from chocolate peanut buttercup bricks that we're still using the old film, whereas now we've pretty much switched everything. I think there's a few tack and a few toasted almond, coconut, a few mocha, but those seem to seal better anyways. But these everything pretty much going forward with this new thicker film is like bulletproof. So I'm super excited about that. Yes, that's good. Good upgrade. I think that's worth the
investment. Once we get all the kinks kind of worked out, that's going to be definitely worth it going forward, that these will be pretty much leak proof. And if you get them that if you get them in the mail and they're melted or they're soft, you can kind of mush them around and kind of remix the ingredients if you still want to, and then throw them in the fridge, throw them in the freezer, let them harden for a little while and pull them out and they'll be
just fine. Yeah. And we got stickers that I think coming in today, say refrigerate upon arrival. That way people can just proactively, if they're, especially if they're living in some place hot, you know, get the box, stick it in the fridge, let it, you know, sit there for a few hours overnight and then then they're good. Then they're stable at room 10. Because we're we're also trying to put them into the boxes in a way that they somewhat hold their shape.
So even if they do all liquefy and you have 10 of them jammed in a cardboard box, if you can throw that in the refrigerator before you take them out-of-the-box and let them re solidify in their how they are arranged in the packaging, they'll probably be close to the same shape. You know, they'll probably be we're. Packing them in there like sardines.
We're trying to. That's why we moved away from the mailers, because we were just putting them on mailers, but then you put them in a Mailer. And then just mush then. Then you got a mushy Mailer of. Mush and like the carriers are super hard on the stuff. You know, it's like they're throwing boxes on top of the mailers and just squishing everything. But now that everything's in boxes like that, offers a lot. More stackable, you know, they can stack them better in their
trucks. These UPS trucks and these FedEx trucks, they're like 150° back there, you know, like there's no way our cold packs would have can handle that no matter what. Even if we do overnight shipping at, you know, and charge a pretty penny or something. It's like you just don't control once it leaves our house or leaves our warehouse, we can't control it. Yeah. So it's wild. So we're trying to set them up for success and control for what We can't control them.
That's about all we can do. Kind of like life. Kind of like life. Control what? Kind of like life? What else is new and upcoming? Prep Prep next week is peak week. Next week is peak. For this is kind of like a trial show. I know I'm not going to be 100% dialed in as best as I have the potential to be for this show, but. You're going to look good though. I'm going to look good. I feel good. I'm going to use this one as like this is a super fun show for me.
This is the Wisconsin Warriors USBF Federation. It's in Eau Claire, WI. I know Tony and Courtney Spaeth, they are the promoters. She is like you got to look her up. If you guys don't know who she is, she is like she went to Japan and represented the US and absolutely dominated. She dominates all the shows she competes in. She's 100% natural and she just smokes all the unnatural athletes and they they have a gym in Eau Claire. I've been to their competition
numerous years in the past. I've actually helped them volunteer to expedited athletes backstage, help them set up, tear down. They have a gym right in town. It's pretty cool because the how it's set up is their show is at a place called Oh crap brain fart. Super nice venue right downtown. And then the hotel, the host hotel, the Lismore is within walking distance of the venue so you don't even have to take your car out. And then their gym, which is obviously the host gym, is also
within walking distance. It's a very beautiful downtown area. That's where all like the photo shoots are going to happen. And we can all just walk from the gym to the hotel. There's an after bar or after party at some bar restaurant. The very next day, anybody who wants to is going to go tubing down a river. And these two people, these promoters are two of the most fun people ever. And it was always a blast
helping them with their show. And I always thought if I'm ever in a prep, if I'm ever in decent condition to be able to come to your show and be in your show instead of volunteering, I'm going to just make it a point to do that.
So that's this year. So my primary show obviously is your show here in September, but this one is to 2 1/2 months previous in middle of July. And that's kind of how this one came to be in my calendar of events is we're just like, let's screw it. Let's just let's just try it. So that's where that protocol is going to come into play is because This is why I have such an elongated prep. Otherwise I wouldn't have started prep in January.
It would have been probably March, April and started prep for September. But now that's so elongated that you got to try to bridge that gap a little bit. Yeah, but I think, I mean, you're not going to be peaked for this show, but you're still going to look pretty good, man. We've been working on posing every single week and like, you're starting to see all the serratus veins and you're
getting veins. I got once you start to see vascularity or veins crossing your abs, you know, you're getting pretty dialed in everywhere else because that's kind of the last place you'll start to see those and everything will just tighten up, tighten up, tighten up even more for September. So I'm, I'm not, I'm going into the show to have fun, look good, get some cool footage, get some cool photos taken, hang out with some awesome people.
One of my best buddies from back in Minnesota is going to cruise over. He's going to stay in my room with me and we're going to, you know, go out after and all that kind of stuff. So it's going to be just kind of a nice little bodybuilding. It was true. It'll kind of like settle on your nerves for the shows you have later in the year, like getting on stage because you hadn't competed against. Since I haven't been on the stage since 20, is it 23? I did.
It's 23, prepping 21 and a prepping 23 and then this is 25. You and I both competed in 23. Are you sure it wasn't 22? I don't think they were back-to-back. The first prep that you helped me with was into some 20/21 shows. That's right because there's a picture of us at Keto Con or Hecker Health and I was 4 weeks into Prep and you were four weeks out of. Prep and I was like super dialed and you were starting to get dialed. Yeah, yeah, yes, that makes sense. Yep, Yep. Cool. So.
We kind of over, like we barely missed each other. But in 2027 we were just talking about this. Today, 2027, we might hit the same stages. Oh, for sure. We are like, it's, it's going to be good because like you and I are going to do like a legitimate bona fide build in 2026 and like I'm going to actually give the build all the detention it deserves. We should track data. We should do Dexes prior to. We should do all that. I'm going to be as rigid in my
build as I am in a prep. And just like have all of that data. I mean, in a prep or in a build, I've always just, you know, eaten at a surplus, gotten enough protein, lifted hard and heavy, like all the all the things you're supposed to do. But I want to like take more of an analytical approach to it this time. Fine tune it. Yeah, really fine tune it. And then just like incorporate that into the course more as well, like having more of a building focus in there as well.
So we'll do that in 26 and totally capitalize on that year to build. And then you and I will start prep. I don't know when we'll start prep, but it'll be in early 2027 for 2027's competitive season. And then you and I will compete against one another and see who reigns king. It'll be good. That would be fun. You're gonna have me beat on
size. I definitely need at least a couple weeks or months of just flexibility, freedom, nutritional, just eating to intuition, enjoying the foods that I kind of take out during, you know, just a little break. Yeah, obviously still keto, but Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But like eating intuitively ad Lib, I mean after you're depending on if you do your November show or not, but pretty much from there until whenever you want to start in 2026 would be that for you. Well.
I want to reverse safely out of it too though. Yeah. So it really just depends on November like if you want to do. 'Cause that's where that's in 2023 back before I was keto. That's what's tailspun me into. Keto is a shitty non existent reverse diet out of a bro diet competition and I just gained a ton of ANYWAYS. That's a different story. Yeah, yeah, the reverse diet portion is huge, and that'll start and end depending on when your last show was. So yeah, we'll get all that
figured out. But I am excited to compete against you 'cause like, we got all this content in the course and I was watching a bunch of it. Like there's so much footage of either you and Prep and me and Build coaching and looking at things and getting content of you or you in a build and me in a prep, like meeting up for a competition and doing posing and stuff. But there's not any of us dialed at the same time. So it'll be cool to do a full blown prep with documented, you
know, us on In Sync basically. We could do like combined content, what your macros are at, what my macros are AT, and stats, all that good stuff. Sweet that. Would be awesome. I'm excited, but you get some time. Until then, we get some time. They got some time, yeah, that's on the that's in the two year, that's the two year goal. Two year horizon? How about it on time? She probably won't been rocking 30. 8 minutes exactly. That's ball.
Perfect mount, perfect. Well, let's call it a wrap on this one and we'll we got a bunch of stuff to do today, a lot of a lot of good stuff to do today. So let's just rock on that rock'n'roll. We'll see all y'all next time. Drop us your questions. Drop us your questions.