Well, hello ladies and gents, Robert Sykes, Keto savage.com. Today I've got special guest Nyan Patel on the line and we dive deep into glutathione, how it can be used as an anti oxidant, an anti-inflammatory, a way to detox the body of heavy metals and free radicals. I just, we did a deep dive on
that. He's developed and patented a substance that can be provided or applied topically to improve glutathione levels naturally without having to, you know, take in a bunch of supplements orally. They're just going to be excreted. So very interesting conversation. I'm keen to give this a shot myself. So that further delay, sit back, relax. There's a podcast with Doctor Nyan Patel. And we are live Nyan. How are you, Sir? I'm doing good, thank you. Good, good.
I'm excited to learn from today. I hear we're going to be diving deep into glutathione and what it is, how it impacts us and how to optimize for. Is that something? Sounds something like it's in your wheelhouse. Yes, absolutely. Perfect, perfect. Well give me give me a breakdown as to what that is exactly. Assuming I'm a lay person that has no idea because I feel like anytime you you use supplements or anything people their eyes glaze over. So I want to do a deep dive on
glutathione. Absolutely. So what happens it's people don't want to know what it is. People what what people really want to know is what does it do for me? So I'll tell you what it is first and then which would be boring and then I'll tell you what it does for us. So that way people get excited about it. So in the simplest term, glutathon is a tripeptide. It's it's a compressed of three
amino acid coming together. It's not a protein and but it's just a just three amino acid chains coming together. And so in the simplest term, it's a it's a molecule that a body produces abundantly, but that is not as as exciting as what it does do for us. What it does for us is is 2 main things. What is it known for is, is properties as an antioxidant, which is, is quenches all the free radicals that you exposed to a daily basis as well as what your body produces on daily basis.
And the second part which which nobody talks about too much, it's it's a massive detoxifier. It basically helps keep your body clean from inside, from chemicals, heavy metals, free radicals, everything. Everything that your body is is exposed to a daily basis. Gotcha. And you said our body does produce it naturally or we have to consume it. Oh no. Well, body produces plenty of it. Our body produces. Actually the most abundant molecule produced in the human body is gliathione.
The only downside is that people take things for granted and this are misbehaving in themselves and eventually they find a certain age that body cannot produce a glow dye. So if it if it's produced internally, what what's the telltale signs for people being deficient in it and what's what's driving them to be deficient? Are they deficient as a result of too much toxicity so they don't have enough to combat that?
Or is it more so they're deficient because they're not consuming the raw materials to produce it? Partly both, but mostly because the the exposure of toxin is
pretty high. We live in this modern day society where we have exposure to every single thing and we are not willing to give it up. So it's, it's one of those necessary evil that that we are consuming so much oxygen, stress products in our body from pollution to chemicals on our face knowingly or unknowingly drinking alcohol in fun where we know it's a solvent that basically decrease on your gliathione level. Excessive exercise people into exercise enough for until the body can recover.
Otherwise, you know, we can't do too much of exercise either. So all those things we put, we put enough stress in a body that your body has to keep up, keep up with the demand of producing enough glutathione on a daily basis. Gotcha. Gotcha. And what are some telltale signs that somebody doesn't have ample, ample glutathione in reserve to kind of combat all the stressors they're subjecting themselves to? So the telltale sounds like a little bit different because
they're subtle. They're not very prominent. It's not like, OK, if you don't have enough glutathione, I'm going to give you a headache or, or a fever or something like that. It's not that easy, right?
So the gluten levels, when this has dropping, it actually affects your oxidative stress in your body and the results of oxidative stress or high oxidative stress and can happen at least 1020 years later with, with giving you some sort of disease like diabetes or hypertension or arthritis or any of the autoimmune conditions. And so the telltale styles I always look for is that very early on you start getting those creepy forgetfulness, your inflammation sounds getting a
little bit higher. Your joints are not moving as as as, as they're supposed to be moving. When you're younger, you have issues with say information, you have issues with fatigue. And so all these things by itself doesn't mean a whole lot of thing 'cause you just say, oh, maybe I'm getting older and that happens anyways.
But but in reality is that these are all the signs that you also stress is now increasing and the bodies are able to keep up with the demands of of nullifying all those effects of it. Gotcha, gotcha. Is this something that people can test for from like a blood test standpoint or what? What is the the observational, you know, test that they can make to to see what their levels are, what they should be? So there is a blood test that you can do.
Unfortunately, the blood test is by the time you draw the blood and send it to the lab is already everything's already oxidized. So what you're really measuring is the oxidized level of glutathione, which is still not so bad because at least you now we know what your total gluten load is. And you assume that if you're otherwise healthy, half of them would be reduced and half of
them will be oxidized. If you have some sort of liver damage or drink a lot of alcohols, then you know you have a lot more oxygen and less, less and much less reduced form. The reduced form is the most active form of glorathione. And so you can measure the blood test and the range is there's a huge range for it. And the range is because guess what, if you, if they call it but said, hey, Robert, I want you to test your blood test. Do you feel normal?
I see, I feel good. I said, let's look at level one of the gluten level comes up. That's normal range, right? And so there's a range of fiber to 1000 micro moles per liter is the is a range of glutathione. Now I can tell you anything below 900 is, is borderline crossing the line or today there's a good chance that my oxygen stress is increasing and eventually that's going to lead to lead to some diseases, right? And so my goal is to always have an optimum number.
And if you let's see, the range is from 500 to 1000 and your level is 1100 and you don't have any, any concerns, that's normal for you. Because as soon as you increase the glutathione levels to high, high normal, which is goes like about beyond your normal physiologic responses, your body, it cannot handle that part. And that will give you rashes and and itching all of the body That tells me that you have too much of glutathione. You got to back off until the time there's not enough.
It's not just not enough. So you can do the blood test, but it doesn't give you true answer. It will give you some some sort of idea, but if it's done on low normal range, yes you are very low. Got you. So it's kind of like there's no upper limit until you start having those rashes. But anything that you see on a standard blood panel reference range is going to likely be deficient for people with the subjected toxins that we're getting, you know, involved with
on a day-to-day basis currently. Exactly. That's exactly right. Now any product that's out of the market today will not get you into whatever high levels you want of glutathione. It doesn't. It doesn't, doesn't work that way. I mean, people will inject glutathione like 10 grams of glutathione in the Ivs and your levels will not even rise about 1100, right. And so yes, you cannot take whatever dose you want to increase to whatever levels you want. It just the body would not do
that part until now. But until now there's a different technology that exists today that can happen that part. So that that's why it becomes very interesting to understand that high levels of glutathione is good. Too much is not good. Gotcha. And there's no way to like, is there like a, a dietary food group that people can consume at a surplus to increase, you know,
natural production of it? Well, that's what we tell all the people, that whatever you do to improve glutathione levels, the body has the ability to produce until the day you die. So you don't have to take any supplementations if you don't if you don't want to improve the diet, the three amino acids that that you need to in your diet is glycine, glutamine and cysteine. Cysteine is something that is not a barely found in your diet.
So if you just put your favorite search engine or your AI robot, whatever, you have cysteine rich foods, you can get your list of carnivores, vegans, vegetarians, whatever right there. There's food choices in every category available to have cysteine in your diet. Cysteine will be enough to produce enough glutathione. With cysteine, of course you
need energy source like ATP. So maybe making sure mitochondria is functioning OK, you'd operate a lot of toxins inside your body, so the mitochondria is functioning fine. All those things, they all go hand in hand. But yes, diet is the number one thing and avoiding poisons and toxic exposure is the number two things. And if you do those two things together, I think there's a good chance that you don't need supplementation from glottal for a very long time.
Got you. But very few people and the masses are doing both those things in tan and they're typically not consuming ample quality foods and they're also subjecting themselves to copious amounts of toxins, so kind of shooting themselves in the foot whatever step they take. And it's good effect, right, because those toxin stays in the body for a very, very long time. They don't, you don't get rid of it. And so it's not just, oh, just a little bit of fume here and there.
No, it eventually it's. It all adds up. So, So what does the the new technology alluded to for increasing circulating glutathione naturally or with implementation rather? Yeah. So what we did was, I mean, we made the we, we were making the liposome form of glutathione back in 1999. This was way, way long. 25 years ago we made this first product of liposome, vitamin C Co Q10P, QQSO, xanthan glutathione. I mean, we made all, all kinds of products.
What I found out was the glutathione was the one that was not working. So I gave to my patients and my patients said, hey, some people got results, some people don't get any results. I said, what's going on? How, why can't I predict the results? And so my assumption was at that time that the body was not absorbing whatever I'm giving them.
And so, so then I start making intravenous form of glutathione back in 2001. So I made those for almost 20 years and basically I closed that port portion down too, because even the intravenous form of glutathione, there was a research being done in the in the early 90s that when you inject glutathione and stays in, in the bloodstream, it only stayed in the plasma, never entered the red blood cells. And so I said, what's the big deal? Everything else is in the plasma anyways.
But the plasma gets filtered by the kidneys and the kidneys dump all the gluten back in, in, in just in the urine. So in five to 15 minutes, there's nothing available to the body in form of glutathione. And so it still worked on a few people. It doesn't work on everybody,
just work on a few people. And so further look in the research and found out that all this product that's in the market today, at that time were basically using the gliothione, breaking down the gliothione, the three amino acids, reobserving the cysteine out of it, and using the cysteine to make his own gliothione. So it's like doing extra work. It's like, I need this product, but you're going to give me the
full form. I'm going to break it down, take it from it and, and, and, and make it make, make what I want. And there's nothing wrong with that either, because that's what we do with food. We consume food. The, the body breaks down into various amino acids, absorbs amino acids, and you make building blocks of proteins out of it. So we, our body is used to that part. But when it comes to glutathione, it's just a lot, a lot of work. And I was not getting the results I was looking for.
So I started this work on this new technology. At the time I was, you know, actually it was even today's date, even 25 hours later, it's still very emerging is using something called sugars or polysaccharides and using those molecules to stabilize the gluten and deliver to the human body. By doing so, it doesn't get broken down, gets absorbed, gets because sugar molecules actually can get into the bloodstream, into the blood cells really,
really fast. I mean, if you, if you, if you're the sneaker bar, you know, you'll be jumping up and down. If it, if it's a kid, you'll be jumping up and down, right? There's too much, too much, too much energy in your brain at that time, so the sugar molecules are pretty easily absorbed into the bloodstream very fast. So I somehow use the sugar molecules and lace them on top of the glorathione.
When I do that part, the grill gets sucked up into the body really, really fast and and and being used up. The only bad part was I can do it by mouth because I do when I do my mouth, the sugar is broken down in the stomach area and by the time it hits the blood it's already been destroyed. So then I started putting into nasal spray and that did not work because it was burned like crazy.
So that did not work either. And so the only route for remaining for me was using a topical through the skin. And so we had to do some more modification to the to the molecule to try to figure out how it can bypass the skin layers because that's very, very protective as well. So in 2007 is when we first got the molecule stable and delivered through the skin for the very first time that we applied for patent applications at at at at that year.
But it took me about another 13 to 14 more years to do more research to try to figure out how much to give, how often to give. Can I give you too much of it? Or is it, can I overdose anybody on this product or not? So all the studies has to be, has to be done because there's nothing in the world that told us that this thing, that how, how it's supposed to work. And so I, I do all my trials by
myself, which we did. And then now we have a a stable molecule of glutide in a water based system that can be delivered through your skin that gets absorbed, which is going to be far better superior than any other dosage form that exists today. Interesting. So you're able to put this on topically and then how do you how do you measure the absorption of that? Are you doing like blood test shortly thereafter to see how much is entering the bloodstream or how is that conducted?
Exactly. So you can measure the bloodstream really fast and see what the levels are rising at it. So this will save you guys some money. Well, we did the blood test and we did it every 15 minutes for the first one hour and we saw the levels skip on rising for the 1st 45 minutes and then at 45 minutes it kind of peak at that time and then start getting lower. After that it take it took us about another four to six hours before to get back to 0 again.
And So what we found out that after one single application that it stays in the body for much longer than any other product that I know that even the IVS only sees the body for five to 15 minutes. And so for this to stay for four to six hours, it's like a really game changer for for any medicine. And does it matter where you apply it, top of it, or is it just anywhere in the skin? So it's anywhere in the skin is OK.
We, we like to be non hairy part of the body because the hair when the, the sugar that, that, that that's in this product. When we combine the sugars, it gets sticky and, and so the hair may get stuck to the skin. The skin becomes uncomfortable. I personally shave my hand and so I can just apply on my hand every day. I don't have to think about it twice. You can apply any obliques, you know, that's usually there's no, there's no hair over there. But some people are hairy everywhere.
This becomes a little difficult for them. So any non hairy part of the body is good except for the palms and the soles of your feet. It doesn't absorb through that. For some reason the the the sugar bugle that has there's no receptors in the palms and the soles of the feet to absorb it through that. Gotcha. OK, very interesting. What about is there like a a dosing upper limit when you're
applying it topically? Did you notice that you just apply it on a frequency basis like daily is there? Any so that's right. So that Robert, that was my, my, my biggest pet finding, so to speak in 2007. We first discovered this molecule in the literature they talk about, oh, you can give Ivs 600 milligrams to 1g and that's like a starting dose. And if I have Parkinson's patients, I can give to three to 4G of gluten Ivs. And in some cases, in severe cases, we can give up to 10
grams of gluten Ivs, right? So if we look at the FDA's website, it's a, it's a grass status. That means it can generally regard it as safe for any concentration can give to pregnancy patients and kids and everybody. So I thought, Oh my God, this is inert, completely easy molecule, apply whatever you want. Not so fast. What we found out was as soon as we started giving them more than two 300 milligrams of glutathione, people break out in rashes, having diarrhea, having
headaches. And we quickly realized that all this was, I mean, they had full, they were full of energy. Oh my God, it's like they were having like like jolt of energy coming in, but they all having all the side effects. And what we found out was all the body was doing was just releasing all the toxins from the body. And so based on where the toxins were, if it's in the hair, if it's in your head, you get massive headaches. If it's in the stomach, you get diarrhea or stomach cramps.
If it's any other parts of the body, you get rashes and and so we quickly basically we told the doctors were smart enough to recognize this right away. And before we sold any products, he said, hey, let's just do a figure out what dose to give everybody. So we put, we tried different dosages, 50 milligrams, 100 milligrams, 203 hundred, 400
milligrams. And what we found out was 100 milligrams, which is about four sprays give you the best results, the best cost effective results to increase the growth on levels to high normal without giving any problems. And so that was the first time we recognize that OK, gluten is
safe, but it's not that safe. If you, if you know what you're doing, if you improve the levels intracellularly, then you have to dose it correctly because if you're too much, the body is going to start dumping all the toxins out of the systems and the rest of the body is not equipped to deal with it. And so you have to go with your body's own personal capacity on how much you can clear toxins on a daily basis. And so it's so yes. And no, you can't take, you
can't take whatever you want. You do need to follow instructions. But if you do take whatever you want and if you get side effects, hey, you know what to do next, right? Cut back. And how? How was the reduction in toxins measured? So the, a company out of Japan hired us, they paid for the whole study. They wanted to find out that, hey, is it going to release metals from your, from your body to the urine?
And so they did, I think they did a 33 or 34 patient trial that they were looking at it. So they were measuring the metal load beforehand and then they apply the glutathione and then they're measuring the urine after applying the glutathione. And so before the, before the application, the urine had very little metals. And less than a week later they started measuring this uranium with, with loads of metals coming out from arsenic to aluminum to mercury.
We didn't see, we, we saw a little bit of lead, but not that much, but all the other metals were coming out. So I think at least we, we thought that hey, it's activating the the liver or the adipose tissue to release all
this heavy metals out. So if someone's got, you know, heavy metal toxicity, they've they've got high concentrations of that they could, they could either, you know, sit in a sauna for 25 minutes at high temperatures weeks on end, or they could take this as a spray topically and not have to be baking in a sauna. Well, I recommend both. The reason is because sauna removes phthalates, which will not be removed from, which can be removed by gliathione.
And so everything that I all my detox pathways, you need to do a lot of different things just just to get everything out of his system. There's not just one thing that you can do that that's going to do all the work. So I have no problem. People recommend people to do red light therapy, sauna therapy if you want to do cold plunging.
I mean, it doesn't really matter what you want to do, but just have to basically stack it, stack it correctly to help you with every single thing and you don't have to do it on a daily basis. All other treatments, all the physical treatments like make mechanical stuff, you have to kind of spread them out a little bit because otherwise the body gets used to it really fast. With the chemical process, like gluthione, it's a chemical reaction that happens every
single day. So that that that part you can take it for every single day and don't have to worry about it. Gotcha. Out of curiosity, what what was your what was your interest in this to begin with? Like did you have heavy metal toxicity yourself? What what was the the motivational factor for you? No, God, no, thank God. I didn't have any problems at that time. I was losing hair and I, and at that time as a pharmacist, you know, I, I didn't pay attention
to my hair at all. But then later I realized that that was, I didn't have much nutrients in my body to begin with. But that wasn't the motivation either. But motivation came from back in 1997 when I graduate from pharmacist. And over here in California, there was something called people were taking way too much medications. So I was one of the first pharmacist in the country to basically introduce some, a concept called pharmaceutical care or let's talk about patients medications.
And I quickly realized and I, I think I was publishing in 1998 or something like 199798. I was publishing the NA times, Los Angeles Times about neighborhood pharmacy trying to change the pharmaceutical world by helping patients identify if they're taking medications too much or too little. Today it's like, Oh my God, of course I, I will talk to a pharmacist to see what meds I'm taking if, if I, if everything's
in in line or not. But 25 years, 30 years ago, no, you just trust the doctors knew what they were doing. You take the medication, what you were given to you and nobody really questioned anything. So I started looking at those scenarios very early in my career and I realized that actually we were not solving anybody's problem. All we did was manage people's problem. And even today's date, we're still managing people's problem.
We're not solving any problems. And so I was basically saying this is not a, a longevity model for me personally. I can't see myself doing this kind of work for the rest of my life and, and having and, and having fun doing so. And so in 1999, one of the physicians in California came to me and said, Hey, can you work on this liposome technologies with me? Because I, here's a pattern of the technology, if he can work on it and make some products for me. And so I started diving into it
and I got very, very intrigued. I said, for the first time, I realized that, Oh my God, with vitamins, I can help people, I can solve problems, right? And the next thing I know when I quickly realized that's not all vitamins are created equal. And if I, if I had to work on, if I had to work on one thing that can change the life forever for and for everybody that's
alive today. And that would that that all thing led me to Gliathione. So that's why my research is right now is all Glotta because it's if I can just change one thing in in in life, right, and give everybody rich or Oxford stress today, I think it will change the course on how long you're going to live. No, I totally agree with that
for sure. And Robert, 11 more thing, if you think about Glotta today, back in the 30s and 20s when everybody was dying off of infection, there was some some genius in Germany figured out that, hey, maybe I should make some antibiotics, right? And that came because people are dying of infection, right? And so antibiotics, nobody will take antibiotics for the rest of your life to stay alive because, but at that time, that thing alone, increasing lives by 10 to
20 years. Today, people are dying off of heart disease, cancers, autoimmune conditions. If you look at if you look at every single diseases that that people are dying of today is linked back to oxygen. Stress is linked to glutathione. Oh my God, it's it's insane. If you don't, if I'm not working on that molecule. No, it makes total sense. What what do you think the primary toxins are the people are just inundated with these
days? Like what are some of the big hitters that would definitely need to be produced? So the biggest one that we see is solvents. So the, the solvents in, in petroleum alcohol is a solvent because we dissolve every single thing to get rid of things in solvents. And so solids are the big things, ethers, alcohols. And that's, I mean it's unavoidable every. So this was study was done back in, this was done in night like mid 90s in California.
The study was done on cadavers and they 100% of the cadavers have toxic levels of all this, what we call organic phosphates, organic chemicals like alcohols, sorbitols, ethers, things like that. So that by far is you can be completely sober and instead of alcohol in your system, that's how bad that that that part is. And so that's that's one thing.
The other parts is of course, over exposure to pesticides and fertilizers in, you know, a diet because yes, you may be eating a cow, but the cow is chowing on the grass, which was laced with some some toxic chemicals. And so, yeah, so. Alcohol is AI haven't had anything to drink from an alcohol standpoint in two years. I once once I learned about, you know, there's there's just no, no saving grace to alcohol. It's just pure poison. It is, it is absolutely.
I'm I'm, I'm hoping that everybody gets to listen and I'm telling everybody myself that if you see ever see the alcohol in my in my hand, please question me. I said really, I thought you just said that alcohol is bad for you. So I do consume alcohol once in a while. And as of today, I think I have not had any alcohol for at least few weeks now.
And I'm telling everybody and every anybody right now that hey, please stop me if I ever get sidetracked and, and, and came into consumer alcohol with somebody. So I I'm I'm planning to stay alcohol free for rest of my life now. Nice, nice. And I don't want to like judge people that drink.
I mean, I used to drink for sure, but it's like a lot of people will argue that there's benefits to it like the resveratrol and wine, but the the benefits, you know, don't outweigh the negatives like this. Other ways to get resveratrol? Exactly. And the polyphenols. You get polyphenols from anything you don't have to have with the alcohol. Totally. So when it comes to detoxing, there are lots of different things that we can do to improve
that, you know, detox pathway. You talked about the the cold plunging, the the sauna therapy, the heat therapy, increased glutathione levels. What about just like ample sleep and recovery? I would feel like that would be a pretty good opportunity for the body to detox naturally as well. So when I took a, OK, so this detox is a huge subject and we can go on for hours and talk about detox because there's a physical detox where you remove
stuff outside your body. There's a chemical detox where you chemically process the products and somehow make it water soluble or bind to the fiber. So you can poop it out or water somebody, you can just pee it out. And what you're talking about is sleep and mental agility, which is, it's a, it's a major, major impact of detoxification happening in your brain cells.
And it's all due to mindfulness. So sleeping to me is, is the purest form of meditation because I'm hoping that 8 hours of unattended sleep, hopefully not dreaming a whole lot. That is basically your mind is not wandering anywhere else, right? If not, you wake up in the morning. The first thing I do is I do about 10 to 15 minutes of meditations and there's so many
different types of meditation. I choose to do a meditation called gratitude meditation where I think about at least two or three things that I'm grateful for every single day. And 1st, this, when I first did that part, I thought I'd be grateful for. All the things that I'm grateful for will be done in like 2-3 weeks. But after a few years, guess what?
Even today's date, I'm grateful for so many different things that I, I, I don't think about this morning, I was grateful for those farmers that bring organic fruits and vegetables into my grocery store that I can go pick it up from them. I mean, this isn't that the most amazing because you cannot go to the farm and do it yourself. So you rely on somebody else doing the hard work so that you can enjoy your life. And so I'm grateful for that person today.
But anyways, those all those things help you clear your mind and stay say free of toxins. But what you just explained to me about sleep nests that are sleeping and all the different form of detox, all these things that you're talking about is linked to oxidative stress. Because I just did a presentation on mindfulness and and brain health using and how does oxidative stress impacts all those things?
And in reality is that we need to have exposure toxins on daily basis like like oxygen, but then your body has to neutralize them. So sometimes it's not just removed from the body. Sometimes it's just neutralizing them is more than sufficient. And so oxy stress that can impact sleep and stressors and, and, and your mental ability to functions is absolutely necessary. So again, detox we can go forever. So you can ask me any question about detox that can go forever.
Now it's super interesting. So from a biochemical standpoint, Glutathione's probably the the main mover and shake with regards to detoxing internally from anything that we've got, you know, held up in adipose tissue, things of that
nature. With regard to the application with this topical treatment, is there any point to to putting it on topically where there is an area of increased inflammation or is that kind of irrelevant because once it's absorbed, it's all happening from the inside out? It, it is happening from inside out. But, but, but your, but, but your point is well noted. If you have a issue, inflammation at a particular joint, a particular area, which all my pro athletes are having
injuries. I have, I have so many teams that, that, that get the products for the locker room and they're applying it right at the, at the application side. Because at the, at the injury side, there's a lot of inflammation, lot of oxygen stress markers are over there. And some of the oxygen stress is, is warranted because it, it, it brings attention to the body part for the body to heal. But you know, body usually overdoes things.
They just sense too much, too much information to, to deal with a small problem sometimes. And so punching all these free radicals is very critical for us. So yeah, applying at the, at the injury site sometime is beneficial. But yes, it will work inside out. So if someone's, you know that they're dealing with inflammation, they, they put this on topically, what, what can they expect? Like how? How long does that process take for them to be able to notice tangible differences?
So everybody is different. So we the earliest we have seen people said to see results is it's about 5 minutes. That's the earliest they've seen results. And again, this is not a pain gel. This is not psychedelic, right? Like when, when I talk about 5 minutes, these are the people that have brain fog for almost 2030 years there there's gene mutation where they cannot produce gliothione and they don't even know they have a
brain fog. They just don't they, they, they just think that that's the way of life, right? And they'll play the gluten for the very first time and literally the tears roll down the cheek, right? I said, Oh my God, there's something's going on in my brain right now. I can feel my, my mind just opening up for the very first time. This is so weird. And I said, no, this is not a, this is not a psychedelic by all means. It's not an opioid or a mushroom or any of those things, right?
This is just gluten in pre oxidative stress markers. And so that's the earliest of people have seen and and most people see the results in about two weeks. And the reason I say two weeks is because I said early on to make glutathione, you need 3 amino acids, you need 2 ATP molecules, one NAD molecule and two enzymes. So when you're delivering glutathione to your, to the body completely intact, ready to use, it's like putting money in your wallet. You have to go work, don't go to
job, don't do anything. But they'll be money in your wallet every single day, right? Imagine what you can do with it, right? So that's what it is basically, the body doesn't have to work to produce the glutathione. It's the the so that's already available to the intracellular levels to be used up. And so when we do that part, it is sparing those two ATP molecule and one NAD molecule.
And initially all the spared ATP NAD is extra energy source the body is using up to do other body functions. So within the first two weeks people notice that Oh my God, my energy is increasing. I feel better. In fact, one of the ladies called me up I think it was last week and she says that I drink 2 cups of coffee every single day and this gluten has increased so my energy so much that I don't need the second cup of coffee anymore. Can I reduce my dose down because I'm not willing to give
up my coffee today? So I mean it's a good problem to have, but it just tells us that yes, that's what people notice.
So anyway, from 5 minutes to two weeks is what the most people notice differences again, some of the metabolic markers that the doctors are looking for, it may take six weeks to 12 weeks to get the results in. So if you work in the physicians and they they're measuring some of the metabolic markers because of oxygen stress injuries and diseases, the doctors will retest your blood levels in about 6 to 12 weeks and see the change in those markers happening like your sugar
levels, your diabetes, your cholesterols, your heart ejection factors. All those things will start improving, but it takes time. Again, the doctor will be able to measure those you know be a blood test for you. Yeah, this would be super curious for me. I've done like care analysis test to see, you know, different electrolyte levels, mineral levels, which also test for heavy metals. So I could test that alongside this to see if I'm excluding any more heavy metals.
That'd be an interesting use case scenario for me for sure. Yeah, I mean the Hemel you're releasing slow amount every single day. And so it's sometimes, yeah, it's good to see that part and sometimes it's just knowing the Hemel are coming out, it's so much better. So if you just do A1 test after a couple of weeks and see have the have the metal increase in your urine, if that's the answer is yes, that means it's working again, removing heavy metals is
is a marathon. It's not a Sprint, OK? Because every single food elements you eat has a small amount of heavy metals in there. Every food you eat doesn't matter if it's organic or, or or inorganic. So everybody has heavy metals inside the body, everybody does. The issue is you have too much or not, right? That's the question. So when it comes to the the actual solution, so you've got the the IT it's bound to a polysaccharide, you're saying you're just applying that topic.
What? What else is in it? I use vitamin C as a stabilizer, so I use ascorbic acid as stabilizer, but that's about it. Ascorbic acid, some glutathione, dextrans, part of the polysaccharides and that's what we create the complex. Once the complex is created, we put in a water based system so the water outside the complex can get infected. So we use preservatives comes from the reddish root extracts instead of using any harsh
chemicals. We only use the plant extracts to work as a preservative for us 'cause I don't want anything going inside, inside your body that is not natural to human bodies at all. And so there's nothing in there that can that can damage your integrity of your blood, integrity of your cells. And it's a a spray application or like a like a salve that you rub on. It's a spray application. Don't ask me why. I don't know. I, I, I don't know.
It's just, it's when people ask me, why did you name glutaril? I said, if you, if you ask a pharmacist to name a product, he's going to give a, give a chemical name to it, right? And that's what I did. Why do I put spray? Because it's, it was easy for me when I first started using it because I don't want to take a bottle, open the bottle, take a dropper and put it, put it on my hand and rub it in. I said, no, that's too much work. I'm a guy. Just spray it on and just move
on, right? But The thing is the reason I put spray is also because I want people to open the bottles up every every day because every time you open the bottle, you, you put more oxygen inside the bottle. And that's not a good, it's not a good thing to do either. If I use a squirt bottle, it squirts too far out and it splashes everywhere. And you, you lose a lot of product with a spray, you're the most you lose is about 8 to 10%. That's the maximum you'll ever lose.
And so when I, when I was doing my calculations, I use a sprayer to do, do my human trials. That way I know exactly how much is getting absorbed and what the levels are. So all I do is adjust the concentration of the product because knowing the part of the glue that is going to be when you spray it, something gets sprayed off your body too, right? And so you lose, you lose the little bit of the product. And so all those is is accounted for when I when I made the product. Gotcha. OK.
That makes total sense. Is there like are there any studies done that that kind of showcase what the average glutathione deficiency rates are in a general population size? Like is there any data on that to show you know, what percentage of the average standard American, for instance, is deficient in this? So I don't have the data to cite for you as a as a point, because I've read so much things in
there. Everything that's comes out as a common thing is starting about age of 30, starting at age of 30, most popular of the world. I would say world, most industrial popular of the world. All the big cities are are are are first world countries. Their levels of gluten is actually dropping for the first time of what your needs are.
And so that's the description that that we first noticed at the age of 30. Now in America we are seeing even young kids in the 20's, the levels are dropping now. I mean, we see kids at the age of 25 having type 2 diabetes. I mean that's diabetes supposed to be at the age of 50 or above. And we see 25 year old kids with type 2 diabetes. So eating habits have to do a lot with it.
And so average American, I would, I would assume that if they're otherwise healthy that they can look into using improve the diet, reduce some toxin load and improve the gluten by just by doing that about the age of 30 by 35, it should, it should stabilize that part. So you should still be OK. But from 35 to 40 is a Gray zone as well is what I see. After the age of 40. Everybody's deficient, everybody is and that's what we have found out.
So having this little bit of supplementation that helps goes a long way. And again, my goal is, you know, from from the day you're born till the day your death, there's one time in your life is what determines how long, how long you're going to live now, which is the day you find that you have a disease. Once you have a disease that day, you know that OK, based on this disease, my life experience is going to be 10 years, 20 years, 2 weeks, whatever that
is, right. So you know the life expectancy is going to change the day you get the disease diagnosis. So my goal is to first of all, never get the date of a disease diagnosis or push it to 6078 years of age if I can do that part. And the only way I can do that part is if I keep my oxy stress in check at all times, right? And so will I be using at the age of 4000 and 10%? If I have the opportunity to use it 35, would I do it?
Yes, as long as you don't get rash, diarrhea, headaches, you can take it. At 30, if I can afford it, I would do it too. Under under the age of 30, I would refrain from using it. In fact, I'll advise all my people to please work on your diet and work on your habits because habits will cure you for rest of your life. It's a product you have to keep on working to make money to buy the product all the for, for, for the rest of your life.
And so I would say it's work on your habits, work on your diet, work on work on your things that you want to avoid. Things are what you should consume and see if you can fix
those things. Totally, Yeah. I feel like the a lot of the alarming data that's come out around like hormonal levels in recent years over the last 50 years, I guess like testosterone and men, for instance, dropping steadily over the last 50 years, largely due to diet, increased rates of obesity and obviously increased toxin exposure as well. But I would imagine if you get higher concentrating glutathione levels, you can kind of offset that and hopefully improve hormonal levels too.
It does. So Robert, you are, you're talking to a company pharmacist over here myself, I've been dealing with hormone replacement therapy for over 27 years, doing bioidenticals injections for guys. I mean, I, I've done it all with when it comes to hormones. And you're absolutely correct when it comes to the hormone levels, it's dropping steadily. And it's, it's basically, it's like is, is something is wrong with us. You know, if you think about it, the average world population in
a developed country is dropping. The birth rate is dropping. Why? Is it because we have infertility issues or people are not getting married or people are not producing babies? No, because they can't. Because they can't, right. So hormones are, are actual levels are dropping and it has to be I know the oxystress is a big, big component. I know exposure to halimals is a big deal. Exposure to pollution is an even
bigger deal today. And so there was a chart that I showed to all my physicians of as well about how do I reverse breast cancer or, or polysis ovaries in females and things like that. And I look at it, there's, there are 10 things they have to go wrong to get this diseases. And it starts from cigarette smoking, exposure to pollutions, exposure to cadmium, arsenic, lead, mercury, low levels of zinc and the list goes and stress reductions, things like
that. There's so many things that have to go wrong for you to get these diseases. And So what we thought that those these are supposed to happen when you have 50-60 years of age. But now we're seeing breast cancer patients at age of 25 and 30. And so the protection, the hormones are some protective part of the body too. Hormones are not all bad. Hormones at the right range can protect us. Out of range can kill you, right? That's why we call them Angel of
life and Angel of death. Too much you cannot function, it'll kill you. Too little, you can't function. You need the right amount to be flourishing and thriving. And so, yes, the, I mean like another, another big topic that Jesus is talking about. But yeah, also stress plays a big role in, in, in these things. And 50 years ago I was talking, I was working with, with a, with a physician 50 years ago. He said that I see also sick patients maybe once a year. They cannot produce babies.
Now he's he's, he's retired now, but about a few years ago, before his retirement, he saw one a day. Yeah, Yeah, that does not surprise me. It's a sad reality for sure. But I mean the the beauty of the glutathione is that if you get that coming in, it kind of it doesn't directly improve hormonal function, but it indirectly has a massive effect, I would imagine because of the anti-inflammatory components, the reduction and oxidative stress and just improves overall internal function.
No, beyond that what you just said was correct. But beyond that it also helps modulate the CYP 2B1 receptor of the genes. That's the genes that helps us detoxify excess amount of testosterone and estrogen out of the body. Gluten actually helps modules that, so it can enhance the excretion of of of all these hormones out of your system. Just keep in mind when the people take testosterone and, and, and estrogens, what you're measuring the blood is the active form of those hormones.
What you're not measuring is all the metabolites which are also toxic. Those toxic metabolites have to be released, right? And there's all the all the metabolites are, are all soluble. So having ACIP enzyme in your liver activate those into making the water soluble or conjugate to a fiber so you can poop it out. Those whole pathways are accurate by, by, by glutathione, and.
The beautiful thing about this glutathione supplementation is I'm assuming I wouldn't like I compete in natural federation, so I wouldn't pop on a drug test for, you know, taking, you know, exogenous hormones. I can take glutathione, which is naturally produced, and it's just going to improve baseline levels internally. Absolutely. So we do. I'll be doing work with a lot of ball players, professional athletes, Olympic athletes. They're competing at the highest level.
So it's here's the difference. All my professional athletes use it for inflammation, pain, agility, mobility and function better. All my Olympic athletes, guess what they use it for? What's that? Neuroplasticity? Because Olympic athletes, if you're, if you're the, if you're the top ten, the difference between the first player and the last player player is less than one second in terms of the reaction time, right? So how do you get the best there is by having neuroplasticity.
And if I talked about earlier, your brain consumes 20% of all the oxygen that you breathe in, and yet it's only 2% of the total body weight. The highest amount of oxygen stress is in the brain. Quenching all the free radicals help bring your your your brain function better and and fired up. That's why Olympia has used it for that, for that one reasons for neuroplasticity. Interesting, interesting. All right, well, how do, how do
I get some of this stuff to try? How do I go about getting some of this and and put it to the test? Oh, absolutely. So oralwellness.com, AURO, wellness.com, that's my website. I try to be very educational. So if you subscribe to my newsletter, I, I put some time and energy into what people are asking me questions about. And then I research those information and get it back to you so that I provide this information to you in a hopefully in a non commercial way.
So that way you're able to take this information and use it to apply for yourself. So please, oral wellness.com, we only have one product. Well, glutarine is 11 product, but we have two concentrations. If you're looking for what concentrate to buy, I'm telling you everybody, the lower concentrate is more than sufficient. The higher concentration, more is not better.
Unless, unless you know that you are depleted, severe depleted, unless the doctor tells you to buy this product, unless you already know that you you're OK with it, with that your needs are very high, then go for the higher concentration. Otherwise, everybody, including myself, I just use the regular Glitterol and that works really good for us. Got you, got you. I'm actually about to do a full panel of blood test, hair analysis test, all that good
stuff. So I'll get that baseline and I'll try this topically and then I'll do a follow up test in 2-3 months, kind of see what the numbers looking like. But I'm I'm intrigued by this for sure. Yeah, if you, if you're measuring your blood test, make sure you measure all the metabolic markers, measure your measure your little functions, alk phos, liver enzymes, everything else with that along those lines, of course your cholesterols and endocrine hormones as well.
And if you can get a chance to measure, measure inflammatory markers too and see where they are. I'm hoping everything is normal, but if it's normal and if I can improve even normal levels to better normal levels, that's itself is a game changer for a lot of people. So just like a simple C reactive protein test or something like that CRP test. Well well, CRP is one of them. HRCRP is HSCRP. Then you have the homocysteine
levels. Then there's all those interlockings like interlocking 26 twelves. It depends on who the doctor is. They may measure some of the markers. You, you can measure your osteo stress marker, the MDA levels, the 8 OH levels for H&E. I'm not sure if they measure those in the regular human test over here. We do this test in the in the lab settings all the time. But some of the tests you can measure them. But those are great tests to find out what your oxy stress is to begin with.
And we have a study that showed that we can reduce this oxy stress markers within 4 hours after one application. Awesome. So that's yeah, I'm intrigued. This is, I'm always looking for the competitive edge, you know, anything I need to increase 1%. So I'm I'm all about it. I'm I'll definitely give this a shot. This is a .1%. Yeah, .1%. I mean every, every little bit counts. So I'm I'm. Intrigued. That's right. That's right. Awesome. Well then I really appreciate the time. What?
What was the website? One more time for people to listen. It's oral wellness.com, AURO wellness.com. Perfect. Well, I will definitely link out to that in the show notes. Make it easy for people to find you. I appreciate you fighting the good fight, man. Like we are aligned and simply wanting to get people healthier. So if they can improve their detox rates and just improve overall well-being, I'm all about it. Absolutely. Thank you very much.
I this is my lifelong work. If you want to support me, I have a book which is a Glutar Revolution. It's 20 bucks. It's not much, but it absolutely my 12 years of research before writing the book out and every single articles I have in there, it's all my case studies so. That's on the website as well. Yes, please. Awesome, I will check that out for sure. I appreciate you now I've learned a bunch. Thank you. Thank you. Take care. Bye bye.