¶ Sickness, pain, and birth plan decisions
I was still sick going into my second trimester and I was sick until about 16 weeks. That was the beginning of my SI and sciatic pain. But that's just like a dull achy pain. But the sciatic pain is like literally someone just like pinching my nerve. We've been kind of like, OK, what are we going to do with the second birth? What's our plan? What's the safest route? What's the best way to take? ACOG is like what a lot of people look towards and they are
not a fan of home births. Do you look at the state of Arkansas amount of like deaths or major issues from a home birth Feedback is actually 0% compared to the hospital which is a little higher two. Boys running around? Yep, Rigel's super excited. He's always like feeling your belly. I'm I'm a little anxious about the jealousy and making sure that my time is allotted for both so we're. Technically in the third trimester, but we are recording on the second trimester.
Correct. The second trimester has to be over before we could record about it. Yes. So what happened in the second trimester, what was significant, by the way? Yeah, we have a baby coming, in case anybody didn't know. We have already recorded a first trimester podcast and now we're in the second trimester podcast. We're just doing up update video podcast thing just like we did with Rigel. Yeah. What?
So what what was new and noteworthy second trimester versus first trimester, first with Hazen and then we can kind of compare second trimester with Hazen versus Rigel? OK, if you remember, so I was still sick going into my second trimester, which was not fun. I was sick until about 16 weeks and then I visited family and in California. So Rigel. And January, right? Yeah, Rigel and I traveled to California and visited with
them. But that was the first time I think I had like sat that long on an airplane, and that was the beginning of my SI and sciatic pain. Yeah, you get like these random like I'll be talking to her and then all sudden should be going like and I'm like, what's the
¶ Pregnancy pain and weight gain
matter babe? Take you to hospital. Like Oh no, it's just my SI of pain. Well that ones not as bad. That's just like a dull achy pain. But the sciatic pain is like literally someone just like pinching my nerve. Yeah, it doesn't seem pleasant though. It is not pleasant. And it's been going on the whole second trimester basically and still to this day sure is so not fun. Not fun.
What's your you want to go into details about like weight changes because you were not up that much in weight throughout the first trimester? Like a total of 4 lbs or 5 lbs or. Something So up until 20 weeks I had only gained 10 lbs. And then, now or second trimester, but in a second trimester you were up, how much in total? 23 lbs. 23 lbs And what is
typical? Everyone's a little bit different, but average for like an average person going into pregnancy is if you like, if you have a normal BMI, it's about 40 ish pounds, 30 to 40 lbs they say about a pound a week. They say with your first baby you might gain more with your, with your, you know, second, third, whatever, you might gain
a little less. But I don't know, I feel like I'm like pretty spot on. Like 23 lbs is a little bit less than I was with Rigel, but I've also gained 13 lbs in since 20 weeks and we're like around the 30 week ish mark. And so you. Got a belly right now for sure. You got a bump that is visible. Yes for sure. People keep asking me. People keep asking me for like the last probably 3 weeks if I'm due soon. Like they keep asking me that at the store, like oh, so you must
be due really soon. And I'm like, Nope, got. I mean 3 is relative right? Like 3 is 3 months is not a long time. Yes, it is. It is in pregnancy, Yes. Do you remember what I look like? I look like I just had a huge basketball in here. Like it was just like all belly. So like I'm. I still have room to grow. Yeah. So people just think that I'm ready to. Pop the baby bump, be bumping. Yep. But you've been lifting. You're doing like a a split with Ellen, which is pretty cool.
So I've been leaving the office earlier watching Rigel. You come here and you lift with Ellen. So you're getting a steady, consistent Monday, Wednesday, Thursday session in with her and you're still going heavy on everything. I mean, you got 135 for seven on bench the other day. What was your squat? I don't think I've been going much heavier than 135 squats and deadlifts. I even with Rigel his pregnancy, I didn't ever go super heavy towards the end.
I think I tried to stay around the 135 like it was kind of like OK, if I could stay with like my pre pregnancy ish weight and still lift that I think I'm good. But again, my hips and like just my pelvis in general, the muscles around to get super tight, which is why I'm having a lot of SI pain. But I also it also feels really loose at the same time because you, you're you literally your tendons, ligaments, all that are literally loosening in your body to allow for the baby to come out.
But my muscles are really tight. So I feel tight and loose all at the same time. And it is the weirdest thing to have to explain. So I don't go super heavy on this that barbell squats and the barbell. Anything that you would have to really engage your core with, basically, right? The core is not so bad, but it's more of like the hips, like it's more of like going all the way down on squats. It's kind of like the more going
all the way down on deadlifts. Like I kind of towards the end of, I think even Rigel's pregnancy, I preferred to do rack pulls so I wasn't going all the way down. And that's, that's personalized to me. That's just how I feel and what I feel most comfortable with.
¶ Fitness and diet adjustments
Like I'm not going to risk an injury to my hips or my pelvis or, you know, just any ligaments, tendons, like I'm not going to risk that because I'm going to have a baby. So I, I try to be a little bit extra careful. So we're doing a lot of like isolated leg movements. We're doing more accessory stuff. I'm still doing squats, still doing deadlifts. I love bench benches like still my. When you're doing bench, do you do like a lower bar pass?
So like it just has to touch your belly now so that you can not have to go down as far or do you still go down? You still do it on your chest. Still doing your chest figure like maybe lower range of motion? It's the same thing and last time with Rigel I would have my feet on the bench and this time I've actually been able to keep my feet on the ground, which is been really great for me and I don't have any problems like laying on my back or anything so. And nutritionally speaking,
what's changed there? Has anything changed there? I don't. Really think so. You got ACGM in the other day. Yeah, we had. Well, I guess what we should really do because like last time we recorded our first trimester podcast, we talked about, we alluded to all the headaches that we were facing with this whole ordeal. So we should just dive into that right now. If you're you want to talk about nutrition and the CGM first you want to jump into. That yeah, let's talk about that real quick.
So CGM we opted for because normally they're going to have, you can do an oral glucose tolerance test at which you would likely fail because you haven't had a bullish dose of carbohydrates in years. You're not insulin resistant, you're not not metabolically flexible, but rather than having a bullish dose of that glucose nastiness, we just decided to get the CGM and it's been steadily right where you want it
for the past two weeks. Yeah, I think like the highest it's really gone is like one O 4 like that was like my average
¶ Stress and changing birth plans
highest. And what's funny is that wasn't even like after food. That would be more like I'm trying to get diesel fed me, fed Rigel fed snacks, packed everything ready to get out the door. Yes, it was. And I'm like, wow, this is like it just for us to leave for the day just to get out the door. And so I kind of have to like when I'm now that I'm, I realize that it actually has a effect on my blood sugar. I'm like, wow, I should do something about that.
Like how do I prepare myself better to leave the house so that I don't have to stress out in the morning and. What does your blood sugar do when I call, like when you see my name pop? Up 15150 blood pressure blood sugar, everything goes up No, I'm just kidding. So you'll, you'll pass that you're not going to need to take the glucose tolerance test. You're not going to be facing gestational diabetes. So we're good to go there.
Yep. And I had it in for two weeks and yeah, she was totally cool with that. And yeah, all is well. Yeah. So this is what I want to make the bulk of the conversation about. So to provide some context, we had a whole series of podcasts pertaining to Rigel's birth. We were planning on doing a home birth. Totally natural, no external factors whatsoever. Had a midwife for doing the whole hippie thing. It's not Hippie I. Mean it's natural.
Hippies are natural. And we were like, all right, this is where it's going to go. And then you were 42 weeks and our 41 weeks and six days in the state of Arkansas, we're at you can't have a home birth at 42 weeks and beyond. So we had to go in. Technically you can, we found that out after the fact which really kicks me off. But anyways. Yeah. So we went to the hospital, took Pitocin. You weren't dilating and then they basically burst your water and. Kind of.
They didn't for sure. They, I mean, I dilated to you like a five. Yeah. And she was checking me and when she checked me so my 4 waters broke like my water broke and then on its own as I was dilating but then she checked me and then it like all came gushing out at that point. Yeah, so she kind of broke the water. Yes. But Rigel, What was his official placement? Face presentation posterior. And face presentation anterior you could you can have a vaginal birth.
They don't prefer it, but you still can do it. But face presentation posterior which? What does that mean exactly? I I kept, I keep giving them backwards. So face presentation in itself is their face is coming out first. So like his chin and the top of his head, like all of that was facing. The outside. Yeah, like if someone was looking in there, they would just see his actual face, not the top of his head and then
posterior. And I'm probably going to butcher this 'cause I can't remember cause during labour your baby actually like rotates. So I believe that it means he was facing my posterior. So he was facing my but like my back. But with his posterior placement, the likelihood or risk of him having spinal injuries through a vaginal birth are significantly amplified, which is why they don't even recommend it.
Yeah, it's so much harder to get them out because the space between your chin and the top of your head is a lot bigger than the crown of your head. Like this doesn't have any give because then you just run into like your neck and things like that and the top of your head has give in which you know, like there can be like that coning on some babies when they're born because it had like your head has a little bit of give when you're a baby. So there is none of that.
And then as you try to push the baby out, it could potentially push their head backwards. So they're you're just doing damage to like they're, it's like they, they are flexible and moldable, but they're also like could potentially push them out
¶ Emergency C-section experience
to where their neck is kind of like bent too much so. So not not a safe situation. So that's what we were rushed into the emergency C-section, which was not hippie like at all, not natural. You didn't do any. I guess you did a Spinal Tap, but you did not do any of the other drugs really. Yeah. So as soon as I went in, they gave me like an anti nausea because a lot of times people can get sick from like the
spinal and things like that. So they give you anti nausea and then they give you antibiotics just because you're having a surgery and then they give you the spinal. And so I had those three things. I don't know, they're probably like other things that they do that we just don't know about, but those are like the three main things. So I had that and then after the surgery I said I didn't want
anything else. They obviously continue doing pitocin to help with like the hemorrhaging and things like that. But as far as like pain medication, I did not even take ibuprofen. I was just like, do not give me anything because I really wanted to be able to connect with Rigel the best. I didn't want anything to get through my milk. I just wanted to like kind of forget that I even had a surgery and just like, keep going, you know? And that was traumatic in and of stuff like, I was in the
operating room. There was no curtain. I was there watching them cut you open, having a hard time stop the bleeding, trying to make sure they didn't cut the cord too soon. With Rigel, yeah, totally chaos. But we have a healthy baby boy. Rigel's amazing. He's total chaos and I love him to pieces. He represents his birth, yes. So in light of that, we've been kind of like, OK, what are we going to do with the second birth? What's our plan?
What's the safest route? What's the best way to take? And we, we've had lots of different options.
¶ V-back safety and home births
We were you. You can talk about it more than me, but like a vaginal birth after cesarean known as AV back is somewhat a point of contention and controversy. They definitely don't recommend that be done in a home setting when you're looking at recommendations per typical western medicine doctors. Yeah, so like ACOG is like what a lot of people look towards and they are not a fan of home births. So they're obviously not going to be like, yeah, home birth is totally safe for AV back.
So actually if you look at the state of Arkansas, the amount of like deaths or major issues from a home birth V back is actually 0% compared to the hospital, which is a little higher. But and that even includes transfer. So if someone does rupture, that's, that's the whole that's the deal, big deal with AV back is anyone at any point in any pregnancy can rupture. That is just a separation of your uterine wall. When you have a scar in there, you are a little bit higher chance.
It's very, very little chance. But there is still a chance that that scar can thin and then thin and then a thin and then rupture. There's things like windows where you could like see through it, but it's not completely ruptured or opened. There's a descents which is just like a smaller tear than there's like a full on rupture.
So anyways. But like, you've haven't listened to birth podcast a lot lately and like the they'll typically it's frustrating because you go to the doctor, let's say you had a cesarean and you want to go the natural route for the second child and you ask your doctor and they're typically going to automatically throw out risk of rupture. But as you just said, like there's different degrees of an, you know, severity with that rupture.
And if you have just a minor rupture, that's not necessarily indicative of a a bad thing that your body would not be able to heal from naturally versus like a severe rupture, which would obviously not be a good thing, but the risk of rupture is there. The risk of rupture having increased as a result of having a prior cesarean section is pretty minuscule in the grand scheme of things. Yeah, yeah. And they don't talk about that. They just automatically throw out oh, you're at risk of
rupture. Higher risk of rupture. Yeah, it it kind of depends on the provider. There are some providers who say they're it's more like they're fearful or they don't want to support AV back where they will encourage you more to have AC section. They should give you 2 options and say hey, you can have another seat, repeat C-section or you can have AV back. These are your the risks of both because there are risks to both and then you make that educated decision.
But a lot of times people are just routed to a repeat C-section. Hey, it's easier. Or like you can schedule it. Your family can be here Da, da, da, da, da. Like all that stuff is just made out to be like an easier process. But because of that, the rate of Cesareans in the United States is astronomical. Like it's pretty ridiculous. And I think. What's more is when you have AC section, the you're going to have another scar, obviously.
So the increased likelihood of rupture after having another cesarean section increases. So like, they don't ever talk about that either. They basically just say, hey, look, Cesarean's easy, we'll get it scheduled book, we'll come in and get you, you know, dilated, pop your water, all that good stuff, put you on the drugs, and then you'll be out like nothing happened. But they don't ever talk about the downside of that. Yeah, at least in my experience.
¶ Lack of V-back education
The sad thing too is just in me sharing about my C-section and me wanting AV back and things like that. There's been so many women that have reached out and said like I wish I would have been told I could have AV back but they weren't even suggested the option, which is actually. So here's the kind of layout. A vaginal birth after cesarean is the safest option. The next safest option is a
cesarean. The least safest option is a trial of Labor, which is you go in for AV back and it fails because of a uterine rupture or something like that. And then you have to end up being in AC section. So you have the safest option, which could lead to the worst option or you could have like this middle ground where it's like it's not the safest, it's not maybe the best.
And, and I've had AC section. I'm, I'm not judging anyone who has how does C-section wants more What like that is the total personal choice. This is just what Robert and I want for ourselves and what I would love to see in the medical space is just people talking about your options, giving you options of what's safe versus what are the risks. You weigh them out as an individual and let us know. So anyways. Yeah, it's kind of, it's kind of
just, it's all wild. It's just a. So in light of all of this, we wanted to go with AV back for the second child and finding a provider that was on board with that has been challenging to say the least. It's not like so instead of Arkansas, there's not really many registered certified midwives that want to do a be back in a home setting. They cannot. They cannot. Only one person, or only there's only one office in the state of Arkansas that can legally do it.
Right, there's under the table midwives, but then you know that
¶ Hospital challenges with V-backs
that can get a little shady. Then there's the that one office and they're basically registered nurse practitioners there that are specializing with this in the home setting. And then what we decided to do was find a midwife that was a registered nurse that was totally down to do what we wanted to do in a hospital setting, but letting us do our natural birth. And we found that and we've been seeing her throughout this process.
But then with that scenario, and again, correct me if I'm wrong, but there's hers, our midwife, and then there's two doctors on staff at that hospital that are there in case of emergency. And they are required by the hospital to be there if AV BAC birth is taking place along with an anesthesiologist. And Geppetzky have those people on the floor on hand. So we've been going through that process for the past few months.
And then, lo and behold, the hospital collectively decided that they no longer wanna be accepting of VV bags and. Just scheduling. Issues. It's the doctors, it's not so much the hospital. So like the whole hospital unit is widespread and they're not all saying that, but this specific hospital in this specific area, these doctors are the ones that decided because of scheduling issues. Yeah, because there was only the two doctors and I guess the one anesthesiologist, and they were
dealing with scheduling errors. So like the requirement of having to have them on site if AV VAC was taking place resulted in, I think there was one instance where somebody was in labor for four days or something crazy. So put them in a in a corner in that regard. So they just want to say, OK, we're not really doing V backs anymore. And we heard that through the Grapevine from our midwife and then she's been in contact with
the doulas. So like for a while that we were back at the drawing board been like, OK, so the hospital we've been going to been paying money to been, you know, seeing on a weekly bi weekly basis is now no longer doing what we want to do. So now we have to go back to the drawing board to figure out if we want to be OK with having a birth at home under the table, if we want to go to that one office in the whole state. So it's been a bit of a mess for sure.
Like nothing, nothing with any of our birth plans from day one have been kind of streamlined, as one would hope. But we actually met with one of those doctors, shared with them our exact scenario, what we're expecting, and he was honestly pretty cool with. He came in knowing my chart like he came in, he was like there's no reason why you can't have this. And he said I can't make you go home, I can't make you have AC section. And I still think it's a little messed up.
But he was very supportive of me and the reason why I would be having AV back. I never got to the pushing stage. So essentially they're trying to kind of weed out weed out some of the people. That one is great. A candidate? Yes. So they have their own kind of list of what they think is more what was the what was the word? Good candidates and bad. Candidates. Yeah. What makes the better candidate?
So I feel like I, I don't like that, but they do have their, their own, I guess, list of candidates that they think would be best. And so they were, he was very supportive of me and saying like, I see no reason why you can't do this. I think you're an excellent candidate. You're going to do what you're going to do like it. That's, that's it. So he was able to explain to us in greater detail and they had
¶ Doctor insights on V-back prep
had a whole meeting like the day before I went in to see him. So he had just had like this fresh bit of information and was able to say like, Hey, I this is what we're, This is why we're doing this. This is what happened. These are the people that we're still trying to support, etcetera, etcetera. And he's like, essentially the best thing for you to for it to happen is you show up in labor about ready to push. And I'm like, that's the perfect
idea for me too. So that's kind of what they're leaning towards. Their clinic is not connected to the hospital. If they had a clinic that was connected to the hospital, then that would consider them in the building of the hospital and they would they would be able to do more feedback. So he said, we're trying to figure it out where we could maybe have part of the clinic in
the hospital or whatever. So that this is not an issue because the the issue is, is if someone has an emergency, which there are so many non V back related emergencies that they don't make a a doctor be in the hospital, then it's only for the V backs. So it's just a, it's just such an interesting situation in the interesting hospital policy. But All in all, we really liked that doctor and we felt supported by him. There's one other doctor I would like to see. When do we meet with them?
I don't know, I think in probably like 2 weeks. We are for sure meeting them though, right? Yeah, I'm, I haven't made the appointment, but I'm going to make that and just make sure that everyone's on the same page because we won't really see these doctors unless something's going wrong. Yeah, like they may get to the hospital and be like, hey, I'm doctor so and so, you know, I'm the one that's going to be here on. If we had to have AC section they would be the doctors doing
¶ Natural hospital birth plan
it. Right. But they're, but my nurses and stuff are still going to be contacting my midwife for the communication aspect of things. So yeah, it was like a big thing because we weren't sure exactly why they were saying no more. If they were going to just deny me, if they were just going to, I was going to get to the hospital and just have to fight the whole time. But being able to have that conversation put my mind so much at ease knowing that I can go in the hospital and no one is like,
you can't do that. Like they're all kind of like, you know what, you're going to do your thing and we're here in case something happens, you know? So that felt really good. Yeah. Which is why we chose that facility anyways. Right. So as it sits currently, our plan is to have a natural birth without any external factors in the hospital with the midwife naturally without any anything
coming in from the outside. And then if we do have to have any unforeseen, you know, C sections or something like that, then those would be the doctors that do it who will have met both of them at that point. But we should be pretty well free and clear and be able to go about it as planned. We'll have a doula as well. And what else are we doing with this planned birth? Doula, midwife, natural birth in a hospital? Yep, be back. Yes. Boom. That's the plan. That's the plan.
And did we say what his name was going to be? I don't know, I can't remember 'cause we did a first trimester and then I feel like we did another podcast like. We did a gender reveal video, not on the podcast, but we did a gender reveal. OK so in case y'all don't even know it's a boy that we're having. We're having another boy. We. Have another boy, Hazen, Wilder, Sykes. Yep, Hazen is German for gift of God. Wilder means Wild and Untamed and Sykes. We all know what that means. Yeah.
So yeah, it'll be good. I'm excited about it. Two boys running around. Ryder is going to be 3 pretty much in May, and then we'll have the baby shorter thereafter. So pretty much three years in between the two, we're going to have 1/3. We don't know. What are you leaning towards We're. Not talking about it, we're not talking about. We're just waiting till Hazens born. We're gonna just feel it out, see if our family feels complete or if we would like to have more.
We've got diesel too. Yeah, yeah, Diesel. I'm so outnumbered, you guys. Yeah, you're so outnumbered. Hey, you know what they say, Boys rule, girls drool, you know? But yeah, it's going to be good. Rigel super excited. He's always like feeling your belly because you could definitely feel Hazen kicking now. Yeah, yeah. Which is cool. And he's always like, even on the way here, he was like me and me. And he calls him Hazen baby, Me and Hazen baby.
We're going to go see the guys at the building who I'm like, yeah, when he gets here. Like he just talks about this morning in in bed. He was like me and Haze and baby are going to share a bed and I'm like, well, maybe not for a while, but he's. Got all of his toys allocated for Haze and baby. Like he can play with my old toys. I've got my new toys but I'll still share my new toys. He's pretty cute.
Yeah, and he's pretty cute. I just, I hope that that continues after he's born because that I'm, I'm a little
¶ Preparing first child for sibling
anxious about the jealousy and making sure that my time is allotted for both. And he's such a mama's boy that like, he loves to snuggle me and I just feel like having another little person on me all the time nursing and just needing their mom. Well, hopefully. This will be kind of like a natural segue for him to kind of want to spend more time with me. Not, I mean, he he definitely likes spending time with me now, but he's not as like cuddly with me. Yeah.
You are like fun. Let's go in the yard, let's do some work. Let's work with tools. Let's, you know, get dirty. And with me, it's like I want to snuggle. I want to snuggle, Mama. I want to, you know, like it's all that snuggly, like I want to be on top of you kind of things where I'm going to have a baby on top of me a lot. So I really need to figure out how I'm going to navigate that. But I'm going to just like let it happen because I'm not going to try to overthink it.
It'll be good, though. This will be when Rigel wants to start. Like going fishing with me. We'll just go fishing. Yeah, there you go. And this will be the first time, like when we have him, will be the first time we've ever left Rigel overnight. And it's breaking my heart. Like I'm, I'm super anxious about it. I'm like, I, I'm trying to let go of it because I don't want to carry that into the birth and like have like this tenseness of leaving Rigel and leaving him
overnight or whatever. I'm hoping that it just happens in the middle of the night, like or like early night. And so like he's already asleep and I can just go and have the baby and then be released there shortly thereafter. But I'm a little, I'm a little a little anxious about it. I'm a little sad that I have to leave him. And yeah. It'll be good.
¶ Excitement and balancing life
He's a trooper. He'll be all right. Well, awesome, babe. We'll do another podcast. Third trimester, I guess. What we do one before he's born. So with Rigel, what we did is we waited till after he was born, 'cause they're, he's just, they're so quiet. They just like nurse and whatever. So we could just wait till after he's born and when my sister or my dad's in town or something like that, someone can watch him
and. So the next time we do a podcast, we might do one before then just kind of you and me doing like an up update on like homesteading stuff, business stuff, just all the other stuff we got going on. But the next time we do a birth specific podcast, we'll have a little hazing baby in your arms, so. That's crazy. This has been the fastest pregnancy ever. Yeah, it's it's kind of trippy.
I got done working out this morning and I was like thinking of timelines and I'm like, man, we're going to record our second trimester podcast today. She's in her third trimester. I'm going to have a baby in 2 1/2 months or so roughly and I haven't mentally made that shift yet so I got to prepare myself. Yeah, it's a lot. It's going to be a lot. And Robert has so much stuff going on, like this summer,
fall, I'm like, what? Yeah, I'm thinking of like hosting a retreat 2 weeks before you're due. Yeah, you guys. Yeah. So it's the same month I'm due. He's like, I think I'm going to have like, I don't know, 15 or so people in town to. I'm like, you better just hope I don't go into labor, Sir. Yeah, but I don't think I will have him early. That's just my gut feeling. But if I do, all those people are going to be left. Or we could just bring them all to the hospital. Perfect.
We can all be in the birth room as the baby's being born and that'd be just part of the retreat, you know, like new life coming in. That's a. Terrible idea. You're not down. No, no. All right. Well, babe, we're kind of are you doing? You're doing most of the live Savage contents, kind of. Kind of. Kind of. It's. We're going to get on a schedule with that, but that's going to be like the primary homesteading, birth parenting, parenting platform.
So that'll be where all that content gets published and your Lady Savage is up and running too. So where else the people going to find out more about you? It's. Pretty much it. Pretty much it. All right. Well, I love you. I text you this morning and I say, what did I say? Oh, you get to spotlight this, huh? I'm trying to get. My Robert Robert like doesn't ever send me texts like this, but he sent me. I don't ever send texts like this. This is why I was.
He sent me a text this morning so the whole world gets to know Roberts. Nice. The for for one time I think you're an amazing mother and I couldn't ask for a better part life. Partner, I meant to send that on April Fools, but it was. Just OK. Now in all seriousness, in all seriousness though, you are truly the best mother I can hope to have for my kids. So thanks. You're rocking. Him. I guess you're all right. Appreciate it. Well, I love you babe. I'm excited to do this another
time with a baby. Crazy. I cannot believe that. Yeah, pretty well. Yeah, it's gonna be good. We're just hoping. Praying for a wishful. Not a wishful, but a safe, successful birth and pregnancy. No complications this time. So what's gonna happen? All right, until next time,
¶ Smooth pregnancy and love
babe. I love you. Love you too.
