Hello, ladies and gents Roberts. Thanks kiddo. Savage.com to them get special guest gin streaky Robertson the line. She has got a very fascinating story, she get into the health and fitness space back in 2010. She did CrossFit that she went to Olympic lifting that powerlifting then bodybuilding. And then she got diagnosed with cervical cancer stage, one, and then almost overnight. They said that she was now stage 3.
So very crazy story, very tumultuous time, with that news that information, they told her that she would never be able to do Fitness. Again would never be able to compete again. And was really just kind of give her this this death sentence so it speaks to the be able to Rise From the Ashes so to speak like a phoenix and then figure out what you need to do differently with the nutrition. With her training with her mindset, was all very very
inspiring. I wanted to dive deeper and learn more and I have no doubt that you will take something from this. So that further Ado, sit back, relax. Enjoy the podcast with gin streaky Roberts. And we are live. Gin streaky Roberts. How are you? I'm great. How are you doing? I'm doing wonderfully, wonderfully, well, I don't know how I got in contact with you. I think through Instagram originally but you can't some like, I don't know. It's just scrolling through Instagram.
You get some awesome stage shots and you just did a really cool photo shoot with a horse and you're like old, you know, dressed up in your Native American Garb that just really caught my interest. You plus, you got a Stories. I kind of understand into the, behind the scenes of your life. Thanks man. Well, my name is Jen streaky now Roberts. It was he ate. And I'm actually newly married. We got married last year on 2222, little memorial date there.
Um, I've been in the fitness industry since 2010 and I actually used to be somebody that was extremely overweight, borderline diabetic smoked a pack of cigarettes a day and then believe it or not found CrossFit and Fitness in 2010 and it's funny how it Sorted because there was only two crushed CrossFit gyms in the State of Florida where I was located and now they're like every block. But um, I was like, I go on a treadmill every day at LA Fitness, I can do this.
Cross art stuff, for whatever it's called. That's what I called it because I didn't even really know, you know? So I ended up going and we had three movements man. It was squatting to a wall ball doing jump ropes, which I didn't know how to jump rope forward. I did it backwards as with everything in my life and then we had to run 250. That 28 years old, I started doing this and I ran maybe 50 feet and I was gassed I'm like oh my gosh, this is not. Okay.
So literally from that day forward, I was a smoker for 11 years, a pack of cigarettes a day. I quit cold turkey, that day and changed my diet everything. So that's kind of what got me in the fitness space and 2010. And then six months later I started getting really good at moving weight. Very quickly. Now also backstory, I am Someone who flunked physical education and this is my career. No and fitness is my career and and I was terrible at eating so I've kind of been all over the
place. I've been heavy, I've been smaller than disordered eating. I've kind of can relate with a lot of people. So anyways six months after doing CrossFit, I had dropped 30 pounds, my insulin and everything stabilized. I'd gone the Paleo route and I was like, oh rice is bad. Everything is bad, that is a carb. So, this is, you know, 2010 this, what almost 13 years ago, and I started feeling really good about myself, but I kind of didn't understand the whole fat
thing. So I was like, that's bad cards are bad. So I had that kind of problem for a while and then after I kind of started figuring out eating, I got into CrossFit competitions and then which is funny because I'm deathly afraid of being in public. Would you believe that now? Probably not. But Oh yeah, I was a big-time introvert and my CrossFit coach at the time. Was a man of not many words and he was like, you know, streak that's what he called me streak
without the why. And he said you're going to compete and I said, no, not that's in front of people. And so he's like, well, you lost a bunch of weight. Maybe you can Inspire, folks. You never lifted weights before until you're 28 years old. So that would inspire people just try it. And I did man, one competition I was hooked and it's so crazy. I got a sponsorship at that competition, with this company, which has been around for a long time, called lift, Big E. Big.
And I was 12, I was one of his very first athletes and one competition turned into five, turned into six turned into. I'm competing at the Southeast Regional in 2014 and I was a legit athlete. 28 years old. I turned into an athlete. Like my whole life, I didn't do anything sort.
I was into cattle and horses and Rodeo and polar opposite of everybody else, but got it. To doing that, which opened up the door for nutrition and I learned like I did better fasted and then if I ate fat and protein I was better but make carbs and it feels so good and I didn't even know any of the keto space like none of it. I didn't know nothing about it.
I just knew that certain things. When I put my body, I performed a certain way and it was pretty interesting and I got shredded so that was kind of cool that was by accident. So competed at Southeast Regional in 2014 and then decided CrossFit is not for me because it hurts your body a lot. And really think that was the Catalyst that I did. I was self-taught with gymnastics. So I taught myself how to do muscle ups and things like that, like, on the Rings and tore a
labrum. Like, there's a partial tear even still to this day. I've got a terror annular tear on my l5-s1 shattered. Tailbone, I've got a lot of injuries. Like a lot and Crossfit just kept. I kept just injuring myself over and over and over again. And you know, it's all about the time, it's not about your form. It's about getting it done and winning so it's like this is not for me so then I got into Olympic weightlifting and that was too quiet of a sport for me
because I'm loud. And then after that we got into power lifting and then bodybuilding. So I did everything backwards. Most people start with bodybuilding and then go to the others but I didn't and then get involved in bodybuilding now. Skipping ahead to 2017. I did my very first show became a natural Pro, which was awesome. And I worked with one of the biggest names in the bodybuilding world and competed
in my first NPC show. And as with, everyone knows, when you just eat like a normal road diet after your show, it's usually a Cascade of downward spiral, and I went from 130 pounds, 257 pounds in the blank. And as a female, I mean, even as a mill, it's not great. But it took me about 6 less than six weeks to put on almost 30 pounds.
It was, that's not okay. When gotten the dark place got depressed, it want to lift, and want to do anything, and then started kind of researching food again, played around with keto, didn't really understand it, but it kept coming back around around around, you know over all these years and being in Fitness and then finally, I was just I'm gonna carb cycle. I'll try that. That works was pretty successful. But wasn't enough.
So then I went back to bodybuilding decided, I was going to do another show in 2018, so I started preparing my coach that diagnosed with cancer. Hmm. So then I was like, I'm sitting this one out. We were good, friends, whatever we helped each other through that realm and it was, I was like I'm not competing this year, obviously. So then 2019 rolls around. And I'm like, getting it lost all the weight that I gained. It took like two years to get
that all off. But again I'm 1500 calories or less cardio like crazy, you know. This you know the drill. It's like over and over as the same same And then 2020 rolls around and I got connected with another coach. And he started reverse dieting, me still kept carbohydrates moderate and low but still was raised him up a little bit. And my weight was trending down, and I was like, cool. I'm going to compete in 2020. Well, About that time, February rolls around 20 21 and I start
like bleeding, like crazy. And I'm like, wow, this is not normal part of my cycle. And I went to the emergency room and they were like, everything's fine, you're normal and they're like, let's do one more scan. So they end up doing a scan and they find that there is a mass on my cervix and I have a sixth in a meter, which is a size of an egg tumor growing in my body and I had no idea. So that halted.
Everything. And it put everything in a tizzy, but some things that the doctors had told me one, like doughnut. I'm not to protect her personality. Like do not ever tell me I cannot do something because I will figure every single way around it to prove you wrong. And while I was about to go in for surgeries and all these things, the doctors told me he will not do Fitness anymore. You will not do bodybuilding anymore, you eat whatever you want, you have cancer.
Like, it's just get the calories in and I was like, Hello this But this doesn't sound logical to me. Yeah. And it's hard, argument argument with somebody that's got like all these degrees and they've been doing this for 30 years and all this and that. And so I was diagnosed with, at the time, stage one cervical cancer. So the doctors de like they didn't give me any help. I had to do all this research on my own, so I started learning about nutrition.
Learn about juicing, that's not sustainable for me, learn about carnivore. Learn about ketogenic diet, and more people were leaning towards Quito. And Carnivore. And I was like, man. That's pretty fascinating. And here's why, you know, because, you know, the ketones and cancer, they don't really thrive in the same body, but cancer thrives on glucose, man.
That's pretty interesting. So, anyways, the doctors thought I was nuts as usual because I went against the grain with what they were trying to demonstrate hard to tell me to do so. Hmm. I went in they said you can work out up until you have these surgeries and then you're going to have to just call it quits. And I was like, okay cool whatever I'll be back on the stage.
I'll be Back in the gym, whatever it is that makes me happy because if you change your mindset, when you get a diagnosis like this man, like your whole world is rocked and you either sink or swim. Like there's no, you really have to keep a positive mindset and it sucks. And I know so many people with cancer, they get that diagnosis. And it's a downward spiral from there and that's it. And I thought about it for 21 that.
Yeah, this isn't February 20 21 and when he when they told me you can't do this in, can't do this and can't do. This but you can eat this and you can eat that whatever. I was like man something something's just not adding up so here in my logical mind. Right? So I'm like why is this cancer living? And how do I change the environment that it's thriving in? If I change the environment that is thriving in, it can't Thrive and so that made perfect sense to me. They thought I was absolutely
insane. So I busted out the books, I did the research, I search for the natural paths. I'm on the DuckDuckGo because Google doesn't have what I need and I did Much stuff and the more you train, the more lean tissue, you have also helps keep certain cells gone and down and away. So skipping ahead, they diagnosed me with the stage one cervical cancer. They said they were going to go in and do a surgery because I
would have to get chemo and radiation, 28 rounds. 6 weeks of chemotherapy and 28 rounds of the radiation. They were going to move my ovaries because I was so young into my transversus abdominus. Yes so it wouldn't get radiated like whenever they went to do the pelvic radiation and he's like it's a 50/50 chance. This is going to work but this is so you still produce estrogen and you know, you don't go into menopause well, that didn't work.
So here I take great pride in being an Atty Pro, right? But the doctors have told me I'm never stepping on stage again. I'm never a competing, I'm never whatever. I'm like. Yeah, cool. See you soon. See you later. Dude, I went in for my fourth. It was my Fourth week of radiation. So this, I'm about 20, 20 rounds deep. And my fourth week of chemotherapy after having this ovarian transposition surgery, I
had like a bunch of holes. Poked, in my stomach, they move things around, it, put me into postmenopausal, I didn't go through premenopause. I didn't go to the menopause, it just put me right in, with 19 or like an 80 year old ladies hormone panel, that's basically what I had. I had my testosterone read as a one, my estrogen read as a 32, To and my progesterone was non-existent in my thyroid was completely fried some like at this point I am this was 30
38:30 going into 39 years old. Okay, so I decided at 39 years old that I was going to go on HRT and it's a big No-No in the realm of women especially because we'll also if I decided to ever compete again after I was told I wouldn't, this there goes the pro status, right? The naughty Pro. So, that's out the door. Like, you know how it is. If you go on thyroid medication, you I had a hard time competing.
So anyways, I went on the HRT and it was that was a wild chime to because you have to figure out which dosage works properly for you. So you've got a tiny bit of testosterone or non-existent naturally and so we got to put the androgynous in and then the same with the estrogen and so you got to get those, right? And then you've got to put the progesterone and it literally was a mess and it took about eight months to figure out what my body was.
Is doing because I still had ovaries that still produced a little bit of estrogen. It was just a big scientific mess to be honest. I'm like a guinea pig. So once we figured out like the small dosages that works best, I needed more estrogen because I wasn't producing it, that makes sense. Yeah, kinda Coulson said the hot. Hot flashes, dry skin hair's falling out. Mood swings had acne. I haven't had a pimple on my face since I'm like 10 years old and I'm like, I can't live like this.
And the doctors were like Sorry you're going to have to pay out of pocket because just because you have postmenopausal for near cancer treatment insurance will not cover any of this. So everything I do is like natural medicine and all that stuff you got to pay for it. They don't cover any of it. So I had to start working working working working working, and we're stress my body out even more.
And so, on eating things I shouldn't be eating, I might just add to be something to give here, then, also, the whole time I was going through this up to the doctors told me not to train and do these things. I was in. The gym that was three weeks. I did not go to the gym out of the six, eight months. It took me to recover, which I thought was pretty pretty interesting, because he kept my
mind right now. And what's your feeling at this point, like when you're when you're going through all this treatment, are you putting much attention towards that at this point, aren't absolutely. Absolutely. Something that had had stuck out to me, like, a sore thumb was in the chemo. Ward, I would go there, and I would see the people drinking soda pop, or I would see them drink eating popcorn and microwave food.
And I pull out my chicken breasts were my burger patty and I've got a potato you know or something like that. It was very like carbs cycled if you will but like high-protein and that's also something I think that helped me keep my lean tissue but also my sanity and as I'm looking at everybody else around me that's like gray skinned and they're sick and I felt so bad for them. I'm like, they're eating trash. Like these people are like keeping the cancer alive.
And in a nutshell I was like This is not okay. So I was very, very, very diligent like about what went in my mouth, when it like, I didn't drink sodas. I didn't I don't do aspartame, sucralose, like all those kinds of things because you don't know what's triggering certain things
in your body. I wanted this cancer gone forever so I pulled out, pulled out some books, started reading the truth about cancer and all these different foods and learn all these things and you popped up a couple times. Like, on suggested things on Instagram. This is long before I got back into fitness and I'm like, huh? It's interesting because ketogenic bodybuilding is not, it's not a big. Like, people don't really talk about it a lot and less they're prepping for shows, you know
what I mean? Yeah, that's its which I think is awesome. Now it's more out like we're getting word out. So back to training heavy, I was going to do a power lifting meet. This is post surgeries, did my HRT I'm feeling better and the more hot flashes the more nothing and so I was like I'm gonna do another show. I'm going to for my 40th birthday. Today I'm going to do this.
So I found my current coach Maria and her husband they've been around for a long time and they've got athletes that have been doing keto for a long time. And then, the more I start talking to her, we started doing the carb cycling, and doing all these things, and I'm like, huh, I'm over this. He do Savage guy, I'm gonna get his book and so I waited. I think I put your book in the cart a long time ago.
This is so crazy. How I'm going to tell you the story and I never got the book but I always watch I watch. Crystal's podcast and arguing YouTube's all the time. I try to tune in on the lives when I'm not coaching here, I'm like, man, I got these guys, they got something to say, you know, you're the guy like you're the guy that knows all the things about the keto stuff and a lot of other things. But like this is very interesting.
So I start learning more about it and I'm like, hold up, there's tons of cancer patients that are on keto and carnivore and they're in remission, they don't have any cancer. There's some there's some things to be said about that and they're growing me tissue. Ooh, and their hair is not falling out anymore and all these things that biomarkers are better. I'm going to try it.
What the hell do I have to lose? You know so back to what I told you when I went when I went in for my surgery, this loan back a little bit and they told me you're diagnosed with Stage 1 cervical, cancer. They took me in. They did the surgery. I woke up, they say we had some good news. We got some bad news, the good news is your excellent fit. Your awesome. Like, you know, you got great nutritional background, we've
got this trial study for you. You and the bad news is your stage 3. Man, I wanted to throw up right there like I didn't imagine like you go and you've already very got in your head you got cancer. You're not going to be able to have kids. This is all in like a matter of two or three weeks can't have kids. Now you got not stage one, but we got stage 3. Now we're going to pump you full of a bunch of stuff and your career for Fitness, which is your livelihood is over?
Hey, definitely not man. So it's been a lot of mental, you know, like compartmentalizing. Like this is, you take care of those and take care of this and doing that by yourself sucks, but whatever I managed I got through it, so I can help other people. But now we go back to Maria. And Vlad, I hire Maria. We do my first show coming back. This was what I did it in met this past year. This past May made, 20:22 to
yes. Yes. So she gets me ready, and of course, we're fighting, like, hell, like trying to get me, lean, get the legs lean, get the glutes lean and I have to take hormone replacement therapy, so, therefore, we don't really know where the hormones are all over the place. So I'm getting Labs told every six or eight weeks are like estrogens, tanked progesterone stanked and I'm like, great. There was everything I just messed, you know, I just fixed. It's all messed up again.
Mmm, let's prep. So we finally figure out.
I'm like, maybe it's the carbs. So we got me as long as I can with Nationals, you know, you got to go through the hell to get as long as you possibly can to get on a stage and then I wanted to compete at Nationals even if I place a dead last because it's my 40th birthday and I want to do this for myself, in that time of doing that, this was June was Nationals. So I got an overall in May when to June place dead-ass last and figure and physique, because I
wasn't clean enough that was very humbling, and then July, we took a family trip and my And said, hey, I'm buying books while we're here on the beach. Jen, you got a book in your cart? Can I go ahead and get it for you? And I said, oh my God. Yes it's Taquito. Savage, keto bodybuilding book and stuff. So I'm so hype, right? Josh told me that book, when it arrived at our beach house, bro. I sat down. I went through 160 Pages before I even put your book down. Awesome.
And I was like, holy balls. I should reverse diet like this and I went to your chapter of reverse dieting. Me and Maria, we put something together and we started doing it. I jump my calories up way faster than most people normally would like I went from hell, I think I was at, you know, how bad it is just like total of eight twelve eighty or something like that. What? Women from like 1282 like 2000 and blink of an eye and I was getting I was getting more lean tissue.
I wasn't getting a bunch of fat. Holy crap. This is awesome. And I'm not hungry all the time because when I get every show I've ever come out of, I would eat your food, Your Friends food. My wife's food, my food, everybody's food and I still would not be hungry. I mean I still would not be full. Mmm. And when I started doing this, I'm like oh my God, I can eat a ribeye and some butter and I'm good.
This is amazing. So that's kind of how this whole thing started especially with nutrition. And I noticed mindset changed, 100%. I mean I still have that. You're not going to tell me what to do. I'm going to figure it out my own but like the clarity then there was no more brain fog, there wasn't a Dima that was the biggest thing and as a female going through all of these things that I just happened to me. It's like holy crap. This is all diet is making me feel amazing.
And honestly, man, if it wasn't for your book I would not obviously would not be sitting here talking to you on this podcast but like it changed my life. Well, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to get all emotional. Then imagine, you know, you'd read the book until I looked at your Instagram and you had made a post about it like today. So that's music to my ears, for sure.
Yeah. But like it's I'd love to dive into the mindset aspect because I think that is of Paramount importance, regardless of the Endeavors. But especially when you get in, you know, bad news, like you have your have things like, pretty much RI figure out your identity. So you're doing all this stuff.
You find out that you've got stage 1, then stage three cancer and blink of an eye not too long ago and then you have to figure out How to, you know, change your nutrition at the figure out, how you're going to make this training philosophy, work all of this and all this is going down to it. Sounds like night during the pandemic. So a lot of these shows are getting cancelled. Give me shows that you were planning on doing that we're
getting canceled. No, because actually, I was going through all this during the pandemic and like yourself because I remember hearing some of the stuff that you talked about, like, when you guys released, it was your shirts Faith over fear, was I right? Yeah, I was thriving. That time man, because our gym shut down for like six weeks, but then I was like, oh crap. I'm going to go online and do
online workouts. And I've got a nutrition business that people contact me because I like to help lifestyle clients more than athletes. I love seeing people get their confidence back and feel good about themselves. I'm not mentally ready to Quito somebody, but that's what I've been doing. Like more of a Paleo nutritional approach like non bro, kind of stuff so people have longevity. So I did that. My business was Blowing up and then you know them stimme checks helped out too.
But so yeah I was I was driving during that time and then I got that diagnosis and I'm like, holy crap literally. I was at the top of the castle and then it just crumbled and quick backstory. So I also, you know, I just got married a year ago, my husband and I have been together for three years and his previous marriage. He went through a cancer scare and his wife passed. So he's actually a widow. So, To have to go through that all over again, mindset here, I am freaking out.
This is going to happen all over again for him. I've got 35 clients that I've got to worry about and keep my head on straight and smile every day and report to duty and everything is great and wonderful and everything's fine in the meantime at night, I'm online. I'm researching, I'm looking, I'm trying to learn, I'm doing as much as possible and I'm not sharing any of this with anybody because I'm doing this for myself as a guinea pig, pretty
much and it's a lot. In your head, you know what I'm saying? And then you got to train and then you got to eat right? When you got to take this pill at this time, and do this at this time, take this IV. I get stuck with more needles every single week with IVs and b12, and all these different hormone things I got to do. It's monotonous, but you make it work and that's the thing. Like back to the whole key do stuff.
Like I find that your Mitten fasting or having a fatty coffee in the morning, I'm clearer to be able to think to be able to do these things. Like everything is Clockwork for me. I take B5 vitamins a day, just to make sure I don't have cancer again. Like, it's crazy any point. Like, when you originally got that diagnosis and you had all this weight of the world on your shoulders, was there any moment when she were, like, you know, just throwing up your hands and saying screw it.
Like what's the point? Like, what's the point? Sounds many trician was the point on going to the gym like, what's the point? Yep. II do I did say that and then I shit you not. I have somebody send me a message in my inbox you know I really appreciate the fact that you shared that you know you We got nine ten thousand people on the Instagram.
And if one person sees that and more and more people because I was very like hesitant about posting about cancer because I don't like bringing any awareness to anything. Listen, we got enough awareness about cancer, I just didn't want to magnify it. You know, I'm saying, thoughts become things. So I didn't want to draw any attention to it. I've had people with brain cancer, contact me and they they're all in remission breast cancers, bone cancers, all these things.
I can't believe you're going through this street and we would be To talk back and forth and they would help me and I would help them and they would teach me and I would teach them. And I guess from being more vocal about these things that we all go through. It helps other people in situations like that. Yeah, 400-plus go ahead.
I feel like there's a lot of effective scary to put yourself out there and absolutely when you do that I mean, you look at other people that have put themselves out there that are quote-unquote experts on the subject matter. And you're like, what can I possibly add to the, you know, conversation. But I feel like when you do put yourself out there, I don't know like you you have a lot more like you have a deeper respect for people that are going
through something similar. They resonate with your story more and they may they may pick up on something, you say that they're not hearing from these quote-unquote experts and I feel like because of that, you can have a tremendous positive impact by simply just sharing what you're experiencing
personally. Right? Absolutely. And that's the thing too, is like, it really opened a lot of doors for me for Integrative Medicine. Like I've been big into natural medicine and like healing the body naturally my whole entire life, which To people like almond tiptoe around this subject. When I was going through my treatments, I was already poisoning my body Enough by putting six weeks worth of cisplatin chemotherapy and trial drugs, in my body and then 28 rounds of radiation, which is no
joke. Like, that's in your body forever, like, your bones are wrecked. Your screwed forever, whatever they wanted me to get these certain vaccinations and I was like, nah man. I don't I know the science behind this. I don't know the science behind this so therefore it's my choice. I'm not going. To in the doctors were very adamant and pushing me to do that and they're like, you're going to get sick and you're going to die because your immune system is already suppressed.
They told me this like out of their mouths professionals and I was like, I think I'll take my chances. You know you've already told me how to slow going growing cancer so we're not going to rush anything. I'm going to do research over here. I'm going to find Integrative Medicine, doctors people to heal my blood because you guys are wrecking it. And I literally, I mean, did we have paid? Probably damn near close to 12 grand out of pocket for natural
medicine. Viewers which doctors all these different like concoctions of cervical cancer. Get rid of situations, like I mean, did I have done so many Hyperbaric like so many different modalities that were, never brought to the table because it's only, you know, radiation. There's your standard of care. Have a nice day figure it out. Yeah. There's been a lot of really compelling research coming out about hyperbaric oxygen Chambers and, you know fasting Imaging
diet for, you know, cancer. As I met Bulk disease. I feel like they're certainly needs to be a deeper conversation there. That is oftentimes saluting had with people that aren't having his diagnosis. Well, what is there? What are they telling you now? Like when you go back in for you know, post-op check ins and whatnot. Like what are they saying? Like when they're checking you out? Now, what are they saying? So this is actually pretty pretty awesome. My last round of radiation that
I had, which was, oh my gosh. It's been almost, it'll be two years in February March, April, May June. So you try to block some of that stuff out. So like, May June it'll be two years. I still had a two-centimeter mass one of my lymph nodes was still swollen because it had hit to lymph nodes a mask that considers it stage 3. So when I left I was like well the radiation is going to continue to keep doing its work. So I'm going to ride this out. These couple months I'm going to
start doing high-dose radiation. I mean vitamin C treatments, like IVs and we're going to go from there and then I'll re address this and I didn't even talk about About that part. But they wanted to do after the all the radiations. Don't on the pelvis, they do an internal radiation which is super barbaric for females and I decline that and that's what really set the doctors off. And they were like, you have to do this or you're going to die and I was like, I'll take my
chances. I'll roll the dice. I'm not gonna have somebody probe me anymore because I had from the radiation. I had on the front, it blistered right through my spine and on the back, so it goes straight through the spine on the table. So I was You're not sticking anything where no absolutely not. So after that I decided that I was going to go take it upon myself to do high dose, vitamin C treatments and then do there's a doctor here in Georgia he there's nobody else in the
world. That does what he does is called Magic puncture, where this will make perfect sense to you, they actually take cups and magnets and stick it on the body and put a iron plate underneath and they move the blood around the body to keep it from being stagnant cancer. Thrives in a stagnant. Exactly. But the magnet that goes inside of the cup, and then there's a,
like, a cast-iron plate. Basically, that goes on your back, so you put a cup on the front, the the plate on the back and he moves the blood around to where it creates more blood flow. My skin went from jaundice yellow to like pink within two or three days. So then when I went back in, I've always been anemic, my whole life. This is where the tests come in.
They tested my, my labs mahima crap, my hemoglobin, everything was Perfect. Like, I've never had anything done to me after three treatments with the with dr. Cool. And then, I went back in to get, you know, the pap smear they got to check it and everything and they said that the cervix was completely clear, like nothing had ever happened. And then when they tested me for, they did my MRI and they said there was no swollen. Lymph nodes, there is no tumor present anywhere.
It is gone Geo. Any gone. And I actually just got This report couple weeks ago. Wow. So like this is a combination of just all the things that you're doing in the same time. Absolutely absolutely. And then also, with my natural path, he they signed me up because I had a pre-existing condition for this with this company called Signet era. And what they do is they actually do a blood draw and then we'll test you from the most common cancers.
Because usually like this one isn't to this one and this one is this one so they tested me for a brain cancer, lung cancer, all of the breast cancers heart disease, all Different things and I tested negative for everyone. So, every single month, while I'm here at work, I have a phlebotomist that comes in here and she test my tumor markers. So she'll draw, draw blood between my clients and then go
back. Send it, send this little sample off and they'll test the tumor that they took out during that surgery where they've moved the ovaries and they compare apples to apples. And by the grace of God, it has been zero the whole time. Wow, that's freaking awesome. Yeah, I'm super excited. Mhm, and some. And let me tell you, man, you appreciate the most simplest things. So much more and to help the ability to be able to help people going through this.
I mean, Robert, I've had three people come to me with cancer diagnosis in the last six months that are my closest friends. There are just, it's like, spray popping up everywhere. It's crazy. Yeah.
I feel like, I don't know. Like, I've been thinking about this a lot lately, so I don't have cancer, but I have In so many people that are supposed to me been diagnosed with it and not just cancer, but like, you know, heart disease, Strokes heart and all that stuff and I feel like like I'm a bird read a lot of stoic books. I love stoicism and keeping the idea on top of mind that we are mortal. There were going to die. Totally change the way we think.
Like, I was driving back from California. They, we were there visiting Crystal's Family. We ain't seen him in three years and we would like, right behind this wreck and I we were like one of the first people on the scene. Chris and I both know CPR. So we were seeing if we need to do anything to help and one of the guys that was in the wreck wasn't wearing a seatbelt flew through the window and was are lying unresponsive in the middle
of the highway. So we were there and we were like making sure he was breathing still, Sweden have to do CPR but we were making sure he wasn't moving. So we can, you know, mitigate any risk of him, having spinal damage, anything then but like total road rash all over his body and the guy that it was with him you know how to see
build almost totally fine. But he was like totally losing his shit because I mean this was his friend that just flew Windshield. Yeah, did but like I was just thinking, like what if this was crystalling on the highway, where this is my son rides are, my parents are me. You know, how would that affect the rest of my family and like, seeing all that, you know, firsthand and then imagining it. Be somebody close to me or myself.
It's like when you have death and you stare it in the face, which is what I would imagine, everybody with a cancer diagnosis does. Yes, it's like you appreciate life and you appreciate the little things that most people take total for granted. On a whole nother level. Like, when you watch a sunrise that means you have another day, you never guaranteed another Sunrise. How many peeps, right? Throw their day away because they're sitting in a job. They don't like, they're not
taking care of their body. They're not taking care of their health or eating shit food. They don't fill their mind with positive things. They just consume all the negative terminal at the world forces on you. Like you have the distort the choice to figure out what you what you consume both figuratively and metaphorically.
And I feel like so many people if If they had, they were staring death in the face, like having a cancer diagnosis gives the opportunity to do it would 1,000 percent change how you look at the day-to-day. Absolutely. That's man. Did you ever hear anything back about the accident or know you guys know we keep looking like Crystal keeps looking online and we're not finding things do not post anything. I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing, but since I'm positive, positive vibes,
that way for sure. I've had that happen a few times. I had a so we crash right in front of me and I want first person on the scene. A plane crash, holy smokes. And that guy did not make it. I mean he made it like one day and then he died in the hospital the next day, but like things like that, you're never
guaranteed tomorrow. So I feel like I mean you got it almost have that like just imagine that reality and have it keep it front of mind because it changes the way I think I'm probably thinking about this more. So now that I have a son that's five months old and I want to be a good role model to him but like I don't know like people that have these cancer diagnosis. They have these, you know, life-altering, you know, news
forced upon them. It's oftentimes seen as this massive - and I mean, it kind of is but you have the ability to leverage that because it gives you a new lens to look through life with that. Most people totally don't ever really take advantage of. Well, that's that's kind of like how I approach this because when I very first got my diagnosis, like, after I got out of the ER, and you know and then they're like, you got to go meet with oncology.
You're kind of in a daze like it's a complete like what the hell are these people talking about? Like I'm healthy there. This is not. No, no, no. This is not. Okay. And the gynecologist said, diagnose, me, look me right in the eye and started crying telling me. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. And I like, put my hand up. And I said, listen, stop, how do we fix it? And he's like, I don't know. And then he proceeded to tell me that his mom had died of cervical cancer, and all this
net. And I'm like, The crow. I've now set back my arms crossed my legs cross. I'm like I'm not going to die from this. If I'm gonna die from something is not going to be from cancer. I will promise you that it is not going to be from this because you guys slipped up, when you said this, could have been here for 10 years. 15 years, 20 years. It is a slow-growing tumor. I'm going to reverse this. If we could do it in animals, we could do it at people.
The problem is, as you guys don't want to tap into it, this was a conversation I had because it doesn't make you money. The pharmaceutical industry is an industry. If I go do my natural medicine, you guys are going to push me off. Tell me go deal with my quacks which they actually did and go do my thing. And you know what I am because I got one shot, I got one body is my body, my choice, a doctor works for me. I do not work for a doctor period, end of story.
And that's the thing is a lot of people don't realize they have choices. Got a choice. Like you said, what? You put in your mouth, what you put on to go to work, you know what you, where you drive, where you go, what you do. But people are so robotic because they pick up the phone. First thing in the morning, And they disconnect and they disconnect for the rest of the day and then all of a sudden you get a diagnosis and then they're like, oh, that's it. I'm dead.
You know, like I hate to say it like that, but it's true. Yeah, I chose to run a different direction. I think that's good. I feel like mean, I think the majority, you know, of all the people in the medical field, I feel like the majority of the doctors out there. I think the majority of the people out there have really good intentions that are doing great work.
So there's a lot of there's a massive lag effect with, you know, The Cutting Edge research and that being implemented into Medical Practice. Certainly within that. There's a lot of things going left on say, within, you know, big Pharma big insurance company, listen to really insightful podcast about that on the way, all the way back from California to. And it's just it's just kind of crazy. Some of the stuff that goes on behind the scenes that people aren't really pretty salute Lord
facing. And I feel like, you know, if if you, if you have a cancer diagnosis and you want to do what's right by your body, and you've got, you know, a variety of things at your fingertips. Like it only makes sense that
you would try and do everything. Some reasonable something reasonable just to give yourself the best chance possible and I feel like doubling down on one's nutrition and lifestyle factors is probably going to give you the most bang for your buck as opposed to some experimental drug. Not that there's some can be some benefit to those experimental drugs but if I got diagnosed with cancer tomorrow I'm going to be doubling down on my nutrition.
Environmental lifestyle factors. I feel like that just absolutely and also you're probably reach out to people that. Hey what did you do? A natural approach? Did you follow this? This exact protocol because not everybody is different. And the other thing is to as I'll never forget, one of our sitting there at then the doctors like just get calories in just calories and I'm like, dude, I'm a weightlifter. Obviously I know what calories is not just a calorie. He said you can have anything
you want. Just do not eat any antioxidants. No Berries, no Citrus know, whatever and I was like, what. It's like, yeah, just don't do any of that. You can do that oxygen therapy, you can do whatever and I said, hold up, this lady. Here's eating Sonic and drinking a milkshake and that's okay. But I can't have some strawberries or blueberries.
We said correct answer is in frame toxins, avoiding antioxidants, supposedly it the antioxidant vitamin C will interfere with the cisplatin, so the the chemotherapy that they're using but I said again, the vitamin C compound. There's not enough concentrate and 75 grams of blueberries but this lady is eaten a double-decker supersize fry.
With a chocolate milkshake with Oreos on top and she's cool and it's not interfering with it. You're right, it's feeding the cancer, it's not mitigating the medicine that she's thinking, yeah, it makes total sense. That's right there. In that moment, my very first treatment, I was like, oh man, I got to think outside the box, this isn't going to work. So, yeah, it's kind of crazy how, like, when you start talking to people about nutrition.
It becomes very obvious. If they place, you know, nutrition on much of a pedestal or not at all. I mean, there's there are certain people that I think probably the majority of people live by this code of ethics that
you know what you eat. Doesn't really have that much of an impact you can, you can eat kind of whatever you want as long as it's within moderation and your you should be, you know, fine and dandy and a lot of people if they've been diagnosed with, you know, a terminal disease or illness, they're like look, you've got a finite period of time to live. You might as well eat whatever you want and enjoy that. And I feel like that's just total the wrong way of thinking.
I mean if I'm getting at is if I've got, I mean I've I've had elderly people in my family, have had great grandparents, and grandparents, that would could 1000% improve the last years of their life if they had simply eating better food, but they kind of fell victim to this modality of. Like, look, I've only got a few years left. I'm going to eat whatever the hell I want, but, you know, in doing so they just, you know, expedited their decline, which
is just a very set. I mean, to me that that's not very empowering like I would rather be empowered knowing that what I choose to consume is going to dictate how I feel and perform Absolutely. And also like this that's so funny that now, I'm like the key to war or whatever and it's so funny because they're like we don't want you eating red meat. We don't want you eating anything really high fat too because we don't want to raise your cholesterol.
And like, if my eyes could roll further back in my head, you wouldn't even see the color in them, okay? Because I was like seriously, bro, like that. But this is right here in this book right here, this is all like the medical journals and all the like meta-analysis is and everything. I was reading was like it says right here that a high fat high like moderate maybe low protein diet will help me get rid of this cancer. Like here, it's highlighted show you, that's not true.
That's old data. And I'm like, oh my God, this guy's an idiot. So smart, but he's so dumb, you know? Yeah, yeah. No, I think I mean, you gotta, I feel like it's healthy to always have. Is this like open mind and hear what everybody has to say? But then always absolutely everything that anything people say with this certain degree of, you know, not necessarily distrust but just like we don't have everything figured out like that. That is true across the board across Academia cross.
You know, the medical Literature Like We with a lot of things especially with cancer research like cancer research has like we're just starting to scratch the surface on that. There's a lot of things that we've learned a lot of things that we know, but anybody that says, they've got it all figured out, know, the Cure. They're Talking at their ass,
they don't know. So I'm like you got to kind of take ownership of your own life and realize that nobody's going to Care much about your life as you. So to put all of your faith into some person who doesn't know you from Adam, is probably not the best idea. That's right. And also, like I got for diagnosis, I report I spoke with four different. Doctors like oncology surgeons and all this stuff. I went to Emory University. I went to Augusta University.
I went to Piedmont Hospital here like in Athens Georgia. I went to four different people before I decided to pull the trigger on what I was going to do in every single person told me something different, how they were going to treat me. And I was like huh? That's pretty interesting. I'm going to go with the least invasive one, my think. Yeah. And of course I I end up getting dr. Giggles that play science project with my body, you know. Yeah, but it's crazy.
It's green again. I think I think And not everybody but most people have the purest of intentions the best intentions, but I mean, this is just so much that we
don't know. So I think, you know, obviously, whatever you did worked for your body because like you said, you have, you know, zero, you know, all these tests are showing zero growth zero advancement in the tumor cells, so whatever you're doing, keep doing it. Heck yeah, but I definitely will definitely attribute that to a lot of what I've learned. Like reading your book, reading online and just also fun fact. At the radiation was a blessing and a cure.
So blessing being knocked out every bit of my microbiome and I had to reset my gut. That is a whole nother story, but I learned how to do that. So little and knocked out all my enzymes, everything pretty much. I mean, you radiate everything you microwave, it all. I have never in my life, been able to digest red meat properly, didn't matter. If it was 90/10 80/20 8550, whatever it did not matter. I could not digest fake. Ground beef. Venison was fine but I couldn't do beef.
Once I got done with that, that was the other reason why I kind of opened up to the key divorcing because it was healing mechanism added in all different kinds of enzymes. And what is it? Protease has and lap cases, and all these different things. So, I was able to literally rebuild my stomach did this by myself, didn't go to a specialist, starting ground beef started. Eating steak was able to tolerate Dairy for the first time ever. I do better with sheep and goat
though. And I was like holy crap like he do is definitely for me like this this life is for me and I thought that was pretty pretty interesting. Yeah, no, that's freaking awesome. So are you doing? Are you doing much vegetation at? All right now or not so much. I'm doing a little bit so I did add in some like mixed greens.
I do a little bit of onions. Most everything I do is like for a purpose like the onions for the course attend and that sulfur and it's obviously The Taste but I'm doing like more so arugula and That cuz I supplement with magnesium's, I get magnesium in my IVs, a lot of intravenous. I do that once a week. And but yeah, do I definitely do greens. I do green beans. So also everybody wants to know how many carbs do you eat some days? I 80 most days. It's under 40. Yeah.
And they lose their shit. When you say that they're like, oh my God, how do you even live? I'm like, I don't know it. A lot of fat you're on a high fat diet, you're gonna get heart disease. Guy they say that like straight up like, okay, cool Mo cancer didn't kill me. I think I'm good. You know, like I just joked about it, you don't know anything about this stuff and I also do better on a little bit, higher protein diet.
So as of today, we actually just did start a little mini cut, so I have a lot more to kind of showcase and report back to like, in the next eight to ten weeks and we're kind of doing your style to do it and that should be pretty cool. Yeah, you can post something for sure. When is Next a show. I'm actually looking to do
Nationals next year. So we're looking at met, so I got seven months, so we're looking at May, if I'm not ready, then we're definitely going to pull the trigger in Chattanooga and in June. So I'm thinking about because I got up. My Peak is at right now, I'm sitting at 149 and I got my calories between 21 2400.
I have had some days where it's like 26-28 and actually lost weight on those days which was pretty wild and Yeah man, she pulled my fat down just a little bit proteins, kind of staying consistent and probably suck 9 pounds off is what I'm looking at for the next ten weeks. Nice very slow. Yeah, very excited about it with with you having to take hormone replacement therapy now. How would you compare the two? Like when you were doing a prep naturally versus now with you
have to take HRT? Has your body responding differently. I don't know man because I prepped it. I think it's all about mindset. I get excited. Like it's like you flip a switch and it's like, okay, it's time to prep and like, you get tired, you get kind of pissy, but I get excited. I feel exactly the same right now.
I feel like how I did before I got my diagnosis, to be honest, what I did note, yes, the thing that I did notice a difference because I have a prescription or thyroid medication because my thyroid shriveled up, like my ovaries, adult everything, got scrambled. Old and when I have, I was like, I'm gonna try to not take my thyroid medicine for like two weeks, bro. No dice, no dice, no everything down regulated. I was miserable.
I was sad. I started getting hot flashes again, from not taking thyroid medicine, and I was like, probably keep everything exactly the same way. Um, it has been. So the only thing that we have changed now this, I don't know if many of your listeners and not many people women do this but we're doing in a cyclical HRT which is kind of a headache. So it's like I have I think I take point five units of testosterone. It's like in a little tiny diabetic needle and then my
estrogens at like two units. I take the estrogen twice a week, so I do that for nine days and then no estrogen, and then we cycle the progesterone. So literally everything has got to be like clockwork written on a calendar. There's got to be a alarm and so I cycled the certain In kemetic, a cycle. That make sense. Yeah. And you probably have to change those as you get? Yes cleaner. Yes. Because everything down regulates so that should be interesting in itself.
Yeah. That sounds like a pretty hefty math equation right there. Yeah. It sounds like Street. You'll have to figure it out because my coach has got enough athletes to deal with. So but you know I'll figure it out like I do with everything. Well that's awesome. Me competing and I mean I think it's any time someone has to go through some serious. This turmoil, you know, especially your situation being diagnosed with stage 3 cancer than coming out of that better
than ever. Like, I love stories like that. I mean people, I people there's so much fear Monger in the world. People are always scared about whatever's next, whatever's on the horizon. People always telling you you can't do something. So I always appreciate hearing from somebody that has been told they can't do something and then just totally proved them. Otherwise if like that that's what the world needs to hear more of I gotta say are you close to your grandparents?
Yeah. Are you so so my grandfather and my grandmother they raised me when I was a little ahead of crazy upbringing with my my dad my step monster. But anyway that's a whole nother story too.
So my grandfather raised me and he actually had to come out of retirement when he was 72 years old to go work at Publix to be a Bag Boy and to help people, he's like a greeter just so he could support me and take care of me. So my grandfather ended up staying in Florida because I'm originally from South Florida. And he actually moved in with us that year of my diagnosis.
We went down, we scooped him up, 95 years old, this man lived with us. Now, whenever got him, he was in a wheelchair and he couldn't, he couldn't move because the home that he was staying at, he was so dehydrated. He was with us for 10 days man. We started pounding him with like liquid IVs and feed him protein higher, put my grandfather on a high protein diet. He was walking around with his walker over his head within
days. When I say this, because he moved in with me, Me January. I got my diagnosis in February and I wanted to get my grandfather, the best like that he could have before, you know, he left the planet and I got that diagnosis and I kept it so quiet. And if it wasn't for him being there, I will tell you that my mindset probably be different than it is now because I wanted him to live his best life. So, in the meantime, I was handled my ship and I had to handle it, you know, I'd go to
radiation. I go to my chemo. I'd come home and he'd be like, Jen is everything, okay? I'm like, yeah, I'm good. I felt like death, man. But he's what really got me through my husband is what really got me through like that support system. It wasn't on my mental muscle. Yeah, but having that having that in my life was was like a big, big deal to kind of get me through. So I step on that stage for him because I loved he was so proud of me when he went to see what I
did. He also said Gee and I ain't never seen so many bronze butts in my life, but you do what you got to do, just go win. Win. And so when I placed dead last at Stone but I still got up there this time. I'm doing it for my grandfather and I'm not going to be last. I promise you that. I believe it. I believe wholeheartedly.
That's awesome. I feel like I feel like we live in this Society this culture now which people want to dwell on their shortcomings, their short straws there, you know, setbacks, but I feel like whenever you can, you know, connect with somebody that's had it much worse or is he having it much worse, then it. You know, for better for worse, it makes you not have that victim mentality.
Like, you're able to write be stronger for somebody else and for like him who helped you in your time of need, you know, when you were growing up to be able to pay it forward and be there for him when he needed you most. I mean, like, you would be selfish for you to dwell on your own diagnosis when he's in front of you, want to live his best life, you know. You don't want to straighten that stress. So I think I think that was a
blessing for sure. Yeah, very grateful for that and you know, like people say all the time you're a Survivor, your this I look at myself as a survivor man, I'm a thriver. I thrive through this stuff kind of crap, like the thicker, the muck the easier and you know I plow right through that shit and I've been like that my whole entire life I have come out kicking and screaming man. Yeah, yeah I think I think that's so huge. I had another podcast that.
I recorded a few months back with some of that was diagnosed with cancer as well. And that's what he said to is like, everybody looks at cancer survivors and they just say that they say cancer, Divers. All your accounts about it's highly, you know, bundle you up and identify you, but I feel like his whole thing to was like thriving, you know, in serrated of just surviving. I feel like that's way more empowering way to look at. Like, why would anybody just wouldn't? Look at it?
Merely as surviving like hell, no. You're gonna Thrive now. Damn right. It's hard to tell people that like hey I'm just making it or hey, how's your cancer? This open a whole nother world for me. It opened this opportunity to sit here and talk to you on the phone. It opened an opportunity to like learn about naturopathic medicine. That is so taboo and nobody
speaks of it learnt. I mean, I have learned so much stuff in the last year and a half like and I can't get enough of it. I feel like a little sponge, I'm like give me more. Give me more. Let me learn. Let me share it when we do and it's so cool. Like I mean, Get the 40, and it's kind of like, everybody kicks back. Like, I feel like I'm just now hitting the gas. Yeah, I don't subscribe to this over the Hillman town.
It's like, people have this notion of certain age that like when they reach the days, I can only gets worse from that. A lot of people are still living in their high school days. You know like yeah I'm at the football team, they were part of in high school. It's like you got to be excited about what tomorrow holds because again you're not guaranteed tomorrow. So you got to be always excited about what's on the horizon. That's right.
When you lay your head on that pillow at night, man, you want to know? Did I do what I needed to do today? Like I'm on a comp like That's what I do every night and I'm like, um, okay, I'm cool. I like if I don't, if I didn't wake up the next day, I got my shit done. I made people happy, I made people smile, you know, I shared shared my blessing. I guess you would say with the world. Yeah, I think I think that's a really good litmus test.
Like, if you can be at peace with yourself, like if you were to die today but be at peace with that. That that's a pretty good litmus test for if you're living your life in the proper manner for you. I mean, I feel like for me personally if I was to die today like there's obviously still more things I don't want to do.
I don't feel like I've reached my potential by any means, but I feel like I would be at peace with that because I feel like I haven't I haven't I'm not living with regret and I'm not living with this weight of a grid over Saturday, maybe we've absolutely man, I'm right with you. I get it, I love it, I love it. When you get all kinds of things in the pipeline for you, get the show coming up, you've got you just continuing to silence the
naysayers. Is there anything else exciting that you get coming outside of the competition prep? Um not really man. I just I got clients coming at me left and right so I'm blessed with that. That's for, that's for sure. Like in-house and online, which is awesome. And let's just talk about, I bought a keto brick bundle and they were gone and like seven days. I'm just saying that was big part of my gains from my coach knows and I know this isn't,
she's gonna hear this. So what an amazing product like I was blown away by it and also know gastrointestinal issues with me, which is funny because I Not normally digest way dude you crush it in the flavors were freaking bomb. Well, I'm certainly one of them in which one would you think? Probably that macadamia nut one that sings Money? Yeah, I don't know what. Love them all. They're so freaking good. Well, good good. I'm certainly glad to hear that for sure.
Yeah, a lot of people that switch over their digestion completely in. They're doing like a corner of War based diet. I mean Akita. Brooke is definitely not like a Snickers bar. So somebody's coming from that life, you know, stated American that they often times make some pretty funny faces when they try to keep him here. First time. So I'm glad to hear is love. Is it positive experience for you? I definitely see those in my
prep future, for sure. And also what we did was we got on, I have some silicone like little circular, they look like the size of a Reese's cup. So I melted down the, the mocha one and the coconut one. Holy crap, and I mix those two together and made a bunch of little cups, bro. Money, that was pretty, then they get really creative with it. Like it's kind of cool for me to see how people are, you know, taking the bricks and doing stuff with that. I never would have thought about
So it's pretty cool. Awesome. Great job on that. Well, thank you, thank you. Well, I'm excited for you. Definitely have to keep me posted on how the prep unfolds, keep you posted on everything, like I'm always curious to see what you working on. As far as the the prep Endeavors than just your health and in general, you know, post cancer diagnosis, post kicking cancers ass, basically. Absolutely, man, thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it.
And for all the content that you guys put out, we grateful to have this space, man. Like, you don't understand how much you changed my life, seriously. Well, that's true. We truly appreciate that's my pleasure to have you on the podcast where people go to find out more about you and follow along on your journey. I'm on Instagram at streaky underscore Roberts and then my my email is hippopotamus excited. P P0 Q UA d, a mus at gmail.com. Yeah, I didn't notice that
incessant. The zoom link for this podcast sound like hippopotamus. That's probably the best email address of ever seen. I like it but Economist was taken. Yeah. I was three key. I can't thank you enough. Truly enjoy the conversation. Definitely keep in touch. If there's ever anything I can do. Absolutely, certainly don't hesitate to reach out and let me know. Thanks man, I appreciate it so much. You have a great day. You tune take care. All right. Bye.