Back to Nature with Ali Miller

Well hello ladies and gents Robert Sykes keto, Savage.com. And today I've got special guest and good friend, Ali Miller back on the podcast, we dive deep into it. All we talked about her homesteading Endeavors. She's recently purchased 15 Acres. She's building out all these Garden. She's going to have chickens. It's going to be great. We talked about homesteading regenerative, agriculture, all

that good stuff. And then we do a deep dive into hormone, specifically, female hormones, Women's Health menopause. What are some factors that you can control to optimize for that naturally? And then if you need to go the Hodges route. What does that look like thoroughly? Enjoyed that learned a ton. And then we talk about parenting especially around nutrition, baby LED weaning, all that good stuff. Really?

Enjoy the conversation. I've got a ton of respect for Allie, she is a wealth of knowledge. I learned so much, every single time we chant. So that further Ado, sit back, relax and do a podcast with Ali Miller and we are live Hey, how are you? I am doing awesome. How you doing Robert? I'm doing wonderfully well as well. It's been a while since I've had you on the podcast. I was recently on years and I saw you at what conference? I see you at. What was that was?

That key, dokkan, dokkan dokkan. Yes. And it was awesome seeing you. We haven't seen each other in quite some time due to the pandemic. Yes. But yeah, we need we have a little ketchup call, which is what this podcast is all about. So what's Revenue in your world? Since since we last spoke on the podcast, I know you got a great In house you're building right now. All kinds of homesteading stuff. I just want to dive into your world a little bit.

Well okay, yeah. I mean we keep it Rockin so in my personal world we acquired we purchased a property that's 15 Acres out in Hill Country here and that was in December of 2020. And so we finally just got our well, and we started trenching or irrigation lines and our electrical lines, and we have an acre and a half of that high. Ends 2 because we have some black bucks and really cool Exotics on our on our Ranch area and they'll eat all of the

things. So we have a acre and a half that's high fenced like eight foot high and then a chicken coop, a greenhouse, and then garden beds and we're starting an orchard. So lots of fun in the Texas sun and you know, just exciting being a city slicker trying to learn about. Getting my hands in the dirt and see if we can grow things in rocks, not freaking love it. What? About some Texas, are you? You're pretty close to Austin, right?

Yeah. So we're in Wimberley which is just about an hour outside and then also what I've done since we talked Robert is I'm opening a market out here so it's a pretty rural area. Its population, like 2000 and people were driving an hour to go into Whole Foods or you know, Central Market or some of the, you know, more natural grocer options or even farmers markets. And so I've partnered with all of my favorite ranches, And farms.

And in October, we are going to have naturally nourished Market in Wimberley Texas. And so it's like 65 to 70 percent of the items. You can get there, you can't get in any grocery store. A lot of small businesses that were supporting you no direct producers sold at our store, including raw milk and all sorts of nutrient dense, stuff that you couldn't purchase without a membership. So, we're doing kind of like, a buyer's club model to really

support. Art, you know, the slow food movement and regenerative agriculture and vote with our dollar to try to decentralize agriculture. Which is really, what's destroying sustainability and

food security. So that's been another exciting project and then I'm still running my clinic, I'm still working as a functional medicine, practitioner seeing patients all the time and of course, from 2022, 21 a lot, a lot of focus on immune health and fact, that's what I lectured about at Kido. On was the keto immune connection and it's really quite a remarkable topic. But, yeah, I've been doing all the things. All the things I love it. I love it.

We have a whole podcast just on homesteading. It sounds like, with what may be happening in a year with regard to the, the market? I had no idea. So, is that something like when we ship keto bricks? We have to go through all kinds of legal Hoops to like, you know, have a commercial-grade kitchen. Have that inspect all that, good stuff.

I'm assuming with it being more Or locationally based like for all the local community, it's kind of like a like a farmers market that sense that you don't have near as many Hoops to jump through from a legality standpoint. Right? Well, so in Texas I believe this is a Texas thing there is it's called the it's not homestead law, it's the cottage kitchen law and cottage kitchen. Law means any producer that makes under fifty thousand dollars can produce in their home.

And so you know all these small-scale you know whether it's just a beekeeper with raw honey or whether On making paleo baked goods. We have a lot of the businesses like that but then we are doing a prepared food line and we're working out of a commercial kitchen ourselves.

And I'd say about two thirds of our vendors, are using some form of a commentary kitchen, you know, maybe they're leasing it as like a kitchen chair, but we do have that Cottage food law, which is really cool for entrepreneurs, jumping into things, and, you know, getting their feet wet. It's freaking awesome. This is, this is launching in October. You said yes, October 3rd. Yeah, let's make a trip down to Wimberley. Just to say yeah, this is awesome.

Yes, yes, give me super cool. So, with rendering I'm rendering lard today. Actually. Nice. I was just at the kitchen. Yeah, I think it's like, we got a whole hog 315 pound, hog delivered last Thursday. And so, I had got all the fat and we have five slow cookers going in the kitchen and we're just rendering out some lard. I love it, I love it. So you have no, like you weren't brought up doing any of this

stuff, right? You said you were sitting The current like this is all totally new to you. Yes. I mean I knew to me, I guess is an extension because I'm speaking to you at 37 years young and I've been at this since, you know, probably age 18. When I moved out on my own is when I really started learning about food as medicine.

And really starting to dig into the idea that this all starts with whole real foods and even just understanding the concept of what is a whole food and and what is a chemical I'll shit storm because apparently I was fed chemical should storms in the perception of food for so long. It took me until kind of being on my own to start to learn that

curve. And it's been quite a trajectory, but I mean, I really delve Doven deep at age, 18 and was licensed with my functional medicine, registered dietitians license at age 24. So from there it's just been kind of rock and roll and with that functional medicine, you know, curriculum. They They really kind of lean into the food is medicine approach and like going with a natural as opposed to traditional Western medicine and which that's just totally an afterthought.

Correct. Yes, the interesting thing is I went to bestir University, which is a naturopathic College of Medicine and the school. When I was there, I when I applied for the school, I was a vegan at the time, and I was very into it, because they had Gardens on campus, they had organic gardening classes Wild, Old medicine making.

So you would Forge for nettle and medicinal mushrooms and such in the st. Edward's forest, and then bring them back and dehydrate them and make tinctures and all sorts of cool stuff. But I loved that it was a vegetarian cafeteria and then it only took me like three quarters of my first year in there. To very quickly, jump into more of the Weston, a price wise Traditions. You know, bone broth snout to tail philosophy of eating and that was really came about from a Health crisis.

When When I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's thyroiditis and was really insufficient in Iron, I was anemic had clinically low B12 and all arrows were pointing to making peace with eating animals and, you know, now about a bunch of how I've been practicing. Of course, luckily, that was all

before, I got credentialed. And so I've always been practicing as more of an ancestral approach to eating, and although that wasn't necessarily supported at the school, there were definitely professors that were all in on. That concept, so that helped to bring me to the source if you will. Do you feel like vent ancestral approach to nutrition? Is, I mean, it definitely seems to be gaining momentum in our circles.

Are, you know, our community, our keto low carb Community, but do you feel like that's becoming more accepted in mainstream as well? I think it is and I think it just has to be, you know? I mean, Michael Pollan I think did a really good job. Initially, I don't remember what year that was that his first book came out when he compared, you know, a solar powered machine, speaking of a grass-fed cow, you know, not not an industrialized machine itself.

But how a cow was a solar powered machine and we made it essentially, you know, horn fueled. And what we've shifted in our Sterilize. Agriculture has really destroyed nutrient density, created obesity and just the amendment and input is just unsustainable. Both for a cost and also the fact that we're just killing our soil and without without soil, we don't have food. Yeah, totally agree. I feel like when you just peel the curtain back and look at the comments since practice.

It, it just makes sense that we're going to feel and function better if we're eating quality wholesome single ingredient Natural Foods. Ideally those of which we've procured ourselves from know where they've come from that way, we just have that, you know, closer knit relationship with the food that were consuming. Like, if you just simply distill this down to the core ethics, it's like this is how humans have been eating. This is how we've been eaten throughout our entire

evolutionary past. Why would we feel the need to deviate from a drastically? No doubt and and just the little things that mean. So there's the, there's the like grandiose Dynamic of taking like a Beyond burger and a grass-fed

burger patty, right? And you look at wanting radiant versus, you know, 14 plus and some of them genetically modified, maybe many of them coming from all different sources to fly into the factory for the input again, to create this process product, there's carbohydrates in the Beyond Burger, there is not as biologically available sources of protein and it's, it is really defined as more of a quote-unquote chemical, shitstorm, compared to something

that is a single identifiable, ingredient and And Beyond nourishing. I mean, what's interesting is, we can right now in I guess not Layman's but in a standard understanding of nutrition Beyond I guess a functional mindset. Most standard nutrition understanding is just going to look at those nutrition facts and yes, they could see the variance in carbs. Yes, they can see the variance in the fat composition and in the protein and at least understand the source.

But what we're not tapped into yet is a lot of the unique elements. That meat, or biological protein offers us. So, you know, talking about the bioavailable B vitamins and even getting deeper from things like, iron and minerals and vitamins, but actually getting deeper until I command amide right. So Amanda might, is this neuropeptide that creates the Bliss Factory familiar with that? Yeah, like the Bliss factor that love these corporate food companies are using.

Well, no, no, I'm and amide is a natural created neuropeptide and we get a high of it in our Rain when we eat red meat. It's like what makes us like salivate if we just sit and think about a ribeye, right, right. And so Amanda my dad, you can't, you can't mimic that, you know? I mean, yes, of course there's there's food chemists all the time, trying to make foods more addictive and keep dopamine levels elevated, but this particular compound is actually

structurally. Very similar to cannabidiol, or in the CBD, family it is unique but it kind of works with our endocannabinoid system, which is It's reward, Bliss anti-inflammatory anti-anxiety stress-reducing pathway that every human body is wired with so it's pretty wild that you know, again nature knows best. And there's these compounds that you just can't mimic when you're trying to replace and we see that if we pasteurize milk, you know, your denaturing, the

enzyme. So then you get lactose intolerance because you don't get that lactase in the raw milk. You know, you're not getting as much of. Of course, the quality fats in the conjugated linoleic. Alec acids. And so I think it could just be extended where you don't have to know what you're missing out on, but you can absolutely no with utmost certainty. That the further away you get from how it was naturally produced or how it grows on its

own, or how it's made to thrive. You're likely going to be kind of shooting yourself in the foot by scapegoating and the process. Yeah, totally 100% agree. So a lot of people are not going to have the means to, you know, have a little Homestead operation going on their own place to live in. City or they just don't have the, the accessibility of the land. But I'd love to kind of dive into what you've got going on because I mean 15 Acres that's a

pretty good chunk of land. It's not a ton but it's I mean, you can do a lot with 15 Acres. So yeah. Just kind of break that down. Like what all are you planning on from a livestock standpoint? How are you going to kind of segments that land? Are you going to do with your in tibetan culture and have chickens and pork than cattle come into the same spot? In a circular motion, icons that going to be broken down? Yeah, I know, I'm not that.

I'm not that exciting. I'm just doing a vet. 15 Acres that the 1.5 as the high fenced area where we're going to have the orchard The Gardens and we will have chickens 20 chickens and they will have access to Rome.

We're keeping the garden beds closed off, but when monitored because they otherwise they'll just eat it like a salad bar, but when monitored will allow the chickens to graze and kind of thin things out when we're turning over beds, we're right now starting with eight beds that are eight by four, and four of them are 20 feet, 20 inch Excuse me.

Hi and the other four are 24 high and that's going to be pretty hefty production cycle to start, and that's called Phase 1. And then we have the opportunity to add another 15 beds in on that Garden side. And so we're going to kind of phase it in as we go. But it's excited. We are irrigation has been fun. We're working with these like Tinker Toys essentially it's a company called dripworks and so, you know, playing with their different, you know. No elbow joints.

And you know all the little pieces of making sure that we're working around the beds from our valves and our tee ball valves and all that's been quite the learning curve and there is in our Ranch. I'm going to Ranch kind of community if you will. It look a little gated community of 18, lots and all of them are 10 to 15 Acres.

So there is some jurisdiction of, you know, how many cows you can have anacs-- cetera, but one of my partners of the market has she is The owner of solemn area and she has 300 Hogs up north a couple hours. Yeah. And they are fully regenerative agriculture model, they have cattle on the property that they're leasing from actually dairy farm. And so they kind of work with them and they bring the Hogs into the land. I love it. I love it.

So we have the flower gardens that are not find Gordon Gardens vegetable gardens, what are you planning on planting there? So we have. So we have some starts that were done by a friend of mine because we didn't have water source to literally this week. So the starts were done in early August and that includes broccoli. Green beans. Three. Kinds of kale. We also have it as start. I think potato is as a start and sweet potato slips, then we have

by seed, we're It carrots. And then there still are some starts from what would be like a summer crop like shishito Peppers, bell peppers, and then we have a bunch of head, lettuce and herbs that will be doing from seed. I love it, I feel like Kevin your own herb garden alone is worth its weight in gold because it just makes all of your food taste so much better. Yeah, totally. And I mean, you get such a high antioxidant capacity with herbs

and Seasonings and spices. And I generally, I like to say that my recipes are all very Flavor balanced and we try not to get in a niche of you know one culinary pocket if you will. So you know we kind of work Global and our flavor profiles.

But generally speaking when you're looking at recipes that people write in the state's you kind of want to Triple down on all herb seasonings and spices as if they would you know in India or another country where they're just getting much more potent nutrient density because you know, they're throwing like handfuls of turmeric in and we're like quarter teaspoon kind of thing. My recipes.

I always will be using, like, at least a tablespoon trying to get some therapeutic medicinal level when we're starting to work with herbs, seasonings and spices. No, I agree. When it comes to Herb seasoning spices vegetation of any kind, you're probably getting a lot of pushback from the hardcore carnivore Community. I would imagine that views. All vegetation is, you know, phytochemicals, what do you say when people start bringing that up?

Yeah, it's funny. I think I had this really socially awkward moment with Shaun Baker. I at paleo FX, I think it was like five years ago now goodness and there was like a I forget what kind of meat cut it was, maybe it was like a big fillet that they had cut into tenderloins and there was like a little, you know, peace and I said, oh, there's parsley on your plate. Try to like pull it off. He's like, okay you weirdo.

But yeah it's funny. I always get into this, I guess conversation because I'm kind of known as a hybrid model if you will. I guess in my perspective I'm very meat-centric and like I said, A strong passion for a snout to tail and that's why we're rendering lard. And a huge proponent of bone broth. I'm talking nauseam about bone broth and its benefits, but I also believe very strongly that the human body does and is made

to consume vegetation. I think that we want to be mindful of elements of potential intolerance which we would consider things like leaky gut and this could be leaky gut from use of NSAIDs. So any of those anti-inflammatories like Aleve, Advil naproxen those are big risk factors. We can also see leaky gut from chronic dysbiosis or sibo or yeast overgrowth like candida in the body. We can also see leaky gut as just an autoimmune response and the world of inflammatory bowel.

And all of these individuals, we want to be much more Vigilant about things like lectin and anti-nutrients because the epithelial tissue the lining of their gut is Often ulcerated it's much more inflamed and it's much more vulnerable. If you will to some of the anti-nutrients and especially the inflammatory ones like gliadin and glutenin, and lectins that we think of in our grains and in our beans.

But with that being said, if we are focusing on proactively nourishing our gut with things like bone broth and collagen peptides and we have healed our gut or our gut is not in a state. State of leaky gut, there is a huge mirror. Add of benefits that we see from

consumption of plants. And what I like to argue is whether we identify it in a Petri dish or in its biochemical structure as a what people like to call quote, unquote, plant toxin, like Paul saladino will call them plant toxins often. You know, I always look at what happens. Endogenously in the human body, not in a Petri dish. What happens when I consume this food? How does that influence my antioxidant quality in my blood? How does that influence? The nutrient composition of my

body? And we've seen time and time again, if we're talking about for instance, sulforaphane, which is the unique antioxidant that we see in cruciferous vegetable specially in broccoli, sulforaphane has been shown a very clearly in clinical research to enhance and increase and endogenous meaning made by the body glutathione levels. So whether that's a status of hormesis right.

Whether that quote unquote, plant toxin, stresses the human body to make more glutathione, which glutathione is the master antioxidant, in the body, the highest, the top dog, you know, if you will with vitamin C being like the little kid Sister, anything that enhances glutathione levels is going to be of benefit because we see it inversely correlated with all-cause mortality. We saw for instance, in pan.

MX season, those that had low glutathione levels to have much more severe infection rate, much more of that cytokine storm, because you need the antioxidant to lower. The oxidative stress. We saw better oxygenation and respiratory function in individuals that had optimized glutathione. And we were even seeing in some clinics glutathione as an IV drip.

And to be used as a nebulizer, that was one of the things that I was working with my patients that as a preset before they would go to the Hospital. If they were getting really severe and their pulse ox is dropping, we would nebulize glutathione. And so that's my take is right. If something whether you want to call it plant toxin or you want to call it a superfood, if it enhances, your body's ability to

make an antioxidant. Just like if you want to call a weight, a stressor that tears, your muscle and is harmful, or build, your muscle because of the process of repair that's kind of how I look at it. What I'm saying? Hormesis, if that makes sense. Yeah, makes total sense. Are we seeing a lot of people that are doing a street corner for diet? In glutathione.

I have done nutrient deficiency tests only on a couple because I don't have many patients that are strict carnivores so it would be interesting to see but, you know, usually want to look at an intracellular level for a true more longer standing assessment of glutathione, but you can test that gsh levels in the bloodstream and it would be a really interesting analysis to look at. But what we do know, is we've done feeding studies double-blind, Placebo control

with sulforaphane and seen it. Enhanced Gotcha. That makes sense. Yeah for me it's like I've never been like the hardcore strict dogmatic carnivore in which any vegetables just going to kill me. I just don't need a ton of him. I do like them though. I'm especially if you're growing them yourself, you know where they're coming from. I do think there's a lot to be said for, you know, avoiding vegetables that are mass-produced and just spray with glyphosate non-stop.

Like you probably know for sure and zoom in there. But if you're growing everything yourself like you're talking about I mean that's going to be perfect case scenario. I would think. Yeah. Yep. No doubt. And you know, we know that there's been a Official properties of gardening as well. Because if you're working with again, quality soil, you have compost, all of that, organic matter. And then my psyllium that we

have access to, in the soil. We breathe that in and that actually gets into our brain and serve as an antidepressant. So, you know, we often see people that spend more time in soil, to have that antidepressant effect or, you know, you'll read things like gardening makes people happy, and it's a reason to get outside to, which I think, is a Really

important thing. I think that, you know, ideally I just did a podcast, a couple months back about how our retina and cornea distance is actually changing because of all the screen time, we're starting to see and, you know, we need minimum 2 hours of natural daylight on a daily basis.

So I love also when people are exercising incorporating outdoor exercise, but having something to tend to like you know, work on your property or garden and such, I think, is a really good practice and it's very Meditative as well. Yeah, I totally agree. So, when it comes to gardening, what's a good? Like, if somebody's got the means to just grow a garden, what would be your like, go to very entry level. You can't really mess this up.

Even if you try like, what would, what would you recommend? People plant. I think starting with herbs is great. I'm not a fan of I think doing Planters and containers are a great place to start. You want to be mindful of the material you're using. So in our beds, you know, you want to use untreated wood. If you're going to build Eggs from scratch and you could even start with as long as you're not using like decorative clay pots.

You could use Terracotta clay pots it around your patio if you're in an apartment for instance and I think starting with herbs and deep nutrient dense leafy greens is a really good way to start because when you're harvesting your leafy greens you can just kind of pick from the outside and allow the court to keep growing. So for instance, like with a bunch of kale Etc, you don't want to pull the root system out right away. You can kind of work off of

that. That and it'll keep giving and you know, you can even hang some shade cloth if need be on your patio or move from side to side, depending on what angle you are, or what direction, or orientation, you are in your space. But I think herbs and deep leafy greens are definitely the way to go. What I would say is I wouldn't do any of the my daughter right now is in first grade and they're doing a hydroponic experiment, which is pretty cool.

You know, for a science experiment, they have a fish tank that they have. The classroom. And so, you know, the fish feces is being used as fertilizer for the plant matter, that's growing above the tank and and I think that that's neat and novel, but generally speaking a much more privy to recommending instead of like those vertical planters that you might see online as kind of buzzworthy or non-toxic hydroponic growing those are very sterile.

You know, you're not growing them in organic matter. And so I really see the importance of just like we know the impact of the Grow biome on human health, the soil and

having the viable microsomes. And again, my psyllium culture and such that, that really exchanges with the roots of the plant, just like we see our probiotics and our gut actually aiding in not just enhancing nutrient absorption from our foods, but also even manufacturing probiotics manufacture nutrients for our body and we see the same in the soil. So I'm a big proponent of, you know, finding a Good quality compost to blend with a quality

soil. I can put a couple different ones down for listeners, I like Geo Growers, but that's a Texas company but ladybug is one that's nationally available. And I think that starting in soil is good because then you're also putting your hands in it too. And kind of getting dirty is there like I've heard like my folks have a garden and they've always just tilled the ground and broke everything up, but compounds Down horse manure,

things of that nature. But I've heard there's an argument that ceiling on the ground. Is not good? Yes, yes, because you're disrupting. So it's interesting. My property has fossils from 150 million years ago, that come up when we've French, terry has, and so they're like these little mollusk shells. And at first, when we bought in December of twenty twenty, I looked at one of the guys, I was Consulting with on the Orchard and I was like, why do is this?

Just like mineral-rich they just like dump this matter of these shells like where to get these shells from. He's like a girlfriend from when the ocean was over your property. Oh my God. Okay cool. And so I mean that's just Wyatt that's just wild itself to think that, you know, in West Central Texas. You know this is undisturbed land from literally when the ocean was above it. And so this idea of no tilt till is thought of as a biome disruptor if you will. And so it's just to mechanically

aggressive. And the idea is that At the plant roots, get lazy. They don't have to look in the soil enough to dig that have to break up themselves and so that can create a less robust plant. Hmm. Got you, got you so fab Gant like I live in the Ozark Mountains? Where it's like, two rocks, 21 dirt here. It's just rocks everywhere.

Yes, I'm probably just going to need to bring in a lot of good quality soil and kind of build up and garden beds, opposed to trying to like till down and breaks oil. Yeah. So that's what we're doing and it needs because we are like growing on Rock so what does it were doing? These beds and that's, we're doing 20 inches and 24 inches. Deep, depending on, you know, what kind of root structure they need, but then we will keep that

soil. And when we Harvest, even if we are, so for harvesting a carrot, organ, obviously, pull it of its entity out because you're eating the root of that product. But even like I was saying with the leafy greens, even lettuce, heads Tomatoes, tomatoes, have robust root systems, they can grow, you know, four feet, high, and couple feet wide. You actually want to break down. Down that route and then kind of return that back into the soil and that breakdown of that.

Organic matter will exchange some of the nutrients that it up took to help to balance things out better. And you don't want to disrupt like a never dig back into the bottom of your bed. You kind of want to like Bend off from the top and then break that down with a machete, or a knife and then return that back to the topsoil kind of folded over and plant where you're planted next cash and it makes total sense. Yeah, I've got my on my list.

One thing that you've probably already discovered now, definitely already discovered living on land. Is that The To Do List is never done, like, there's always something to do. So, now I've got an even bigger to do this with regard to American citizens. Here, it'll be fun and it'll be fun thing to do as a family. I mean, Stella loves going out there and she gets so stoked.

And I mean, when kids are a part of the process, it's just their way more willing to participate for sure because they get excited about watching, something grow and come to life and it's quite cool. I mean, it's Science. It's so many different kind of subjects can be mastered in that real-life experience of watching, plants, grow, and being a part of the process. And they're going to enjoy the taste more to. Yeah, totally agree. You mentioned going to have 20 chickens?

Are you doing? Predominantly egg, chickens? Are you doing meat chickens to? Yeah, just laying just laying chickens. Yes, but you know me birds like laying chickens, you can, you wouldn't want to eat the meat because often it's just a totally different texture and such but you can Is laying hens in bone broth. So you know, when they pass if the foxes and coyotes, leave the said Karkat, you know what I mean?

I know we'll lose a couple from Sly predators and that'll be a learning curve of itself and one of my friends out here, she said she well yeah, you got to have a machete on the outside of your Coop because sometimes the rat snakes get in and they'll eat a chicken and then they can't get out. So you just got to slice them in half. No, no, it sounds Like fun. At one point, they had like a thousand chickens. So like we had, we had rat snakes in there. We had raccoons in there.

We had everything your chickens like you gotta, you gotta be on the lookout for sure. Yeah. But I mean if they'd just die of heat exhaustion or whatnot, you can definitely use those use the carcass for sure in broth. Totally what we did you go for the layers? I have not purchased yet, so I'm still in that research and that's going to happen in March. So, we're facing it. So the garden gets put in this following week.

We get the soil deliver them from Day and you know we're talking September and then we don't move in until January so I didn't want the birds until we're living there. And then in March is when we'll get the birds and then get them through the fries. So we don't get have a little baby chicks in the freeze. And then, then we go on to the orchard planning. Nice, nice. We had wait a little bit everything, but we had a lot of air con has and they like green eggs.

So it's like you have green eggs. Yeah. They're on the list. Yes. Nice. And then those funky ones, I can think of off the top of my head's now, but with the big kind of a We're all looking for what they're called in the big. Yeah, there's on their feet Australorp. So I think was one of the ones with feathers on it that was mostly mom saying she had all these rare breeds and they loved it. It was just crazy. Is it like so Keys?

Yeah. So cute because like they covers their eyes, they don't have any clue what they're going half the time so just like run around and hit things can't wait, it's pretty funny. Are you documenting all this like are you putting this on YouTube and stuff? Like the whole we're gonna. Yeah.

We're gonna I mean so the funny thing is real time this is I'm also opening the market and then Becky just had her baby on Saturday. So you know but Byron her husband's my videographer and so once he's off paternity, then

we'll start doing some of that. So hopefully, he'll catch some footage of some of the last, like seating of the gardens and I'll do some stuff with Becky's on maternity, through the end of the year of kind of catching people up to speed of what we're doing in the Miller, family Orchard. I love it. I love it. Like, I look forward to watching it fall along there. For sure. I love the switch, the

conversation. And kind of dive into hormones, female hormones, specifically actually referenced you on a podcast that I recorded last week because people were talking about, I'm not sure what we get started. But we're talking about birth control and the podcast that you'd published. I don't know how many years ago now about, you know, using the Daisy and natural Family, Family Planning, that's what Chris and I started doing or eyes were

just opened. So I've been a big advocate for that, but I've had several guests on recently really diving into female hormones, around menopause, and there seems to be Pretty prominent train of thought, right now that the optimal way to, you know, to do with hormones is to go, the bioidentical route and take exams and foremost, you have a stance on that. I mean, this is obviously very dependent upon the individual, but right, that seems to be a very prominent ideal ideology right now.

Yes. So, you know, once we know that the individual is nourishing themselves and that they are best managing their HPA Access. Those are the two areas that I would look at. As of course, absolute foundational elements to hormone management.

So nourishment, meaning that for most women, the big focus is getting ample protein and constantly harping especially perimenopausal, but really, all aged women to really ensure that they're getting ample protein intake and then I really focus on fat as a secondary for most women and then managing and titrating their carbs to their metabolic flexibility. And what works? That individual depending on

their exercise. And if we want to get them into Ketone production, which most of the time we do and then within that also making sure that they are covering their bases for micronutrients. So if they were on birth control were often going to see clinical B vitamin deficiency. So, we'll probably on top of a quality multivitamin, whether it's my prenatal, which is my multi Avail mama, or whether it's just my foundational. Hi, which is my multi defense.

I'll often layer in a B-Complex with methylated B12, and all of, by the biological, easy to absorb forms of B vitamins. And then we look at antioxidants as well because oxygen, there's a lot of oxidative stress that can occur with birth control use as well. And so those are kind of the areas on the nutrients that I hone in on and I would say, within fats, I emphasize a good amount of Omega-3s for hormone

recovery and rebalancing. So that EPA DHA of the omega-3 family, making sure they're getting at least two grams a day and consuming wild caught fish and shellfish. Three times a week is a big goal and then I look at the stress access. So is this individual sleeping through the night, are they waking up with cortisol? Surges or hypoglycemic blood sugar, crashes? Or are they dealing with body temperature? Fluctuations? In the middle of the night like

hot flashes. We look at whether They are stressed and wired or stressed and tired and how they experience stress. Or they wiry and hyper-vigilant. And in this over-processing anticipatory stress mode of, kind of excessive epinephrine, or cortisol, or are we looking at this stressed and tired where they're running on empty, they're overwhelmed with everything and often.

In that sense we might see adrenal insufficiency and I like to look at DHEA which is made by the adrenals as a big player in sexual hormone balance. So, our adrenals have a cortex and the medulla they make in the cortex cortisol, DHEA and aldosterone aldosterone plays a role with sodium retention and blood pressure control cortisol is that primary stress hormone which AIDS in our waking and sleeping patterns our circadian rhythm as well as inflammation regulation in the body.

You know too little and too much can both be bad. And then the DHEA also made by the adrenals. It can play a role Role in stress resilience and tolerance but it's also a prohormone. So DHEA itself plays a role with metabolic health because it can Aid in lean body mass and it can Aid in muscle formation, it is a precursor to both testosterone and estrogen. So if DHEA levels are too high will often see that in the sense of PCOS? Polycystic ovarian syndrome, or someone who's going androgenic?

Their adrenals are just just totally Rock. It's too high of a stress for that individual, someone with too low of DHEA doesn't have that that precursor building block to produce that testosterone and or estrogen. And so, they'll likely have more suppressed hormone whereas someone with excess DHEA might have estrogen dominance or might be what's called androgenic meaning, excessive testosterone

in a female. So I really like to look at all of that and manage the HPA axis because As you can see, the adrenals have such an influence on sex hormone because also, if that cortisol is up then what happens is the pituitary in the brain. So when I say HPA axis, that's

hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal. So your hypothalamus and pituitary in the brain and then your little to adrenals that sit above your kidneys, when cortisol levels are in an excess level and the bodies wired in this sympathetic fight or flight, nervous system the pituitary instead. Focusing on producing things like thyroid, stimulating hormone, or TSH to support thyroid hormone production, instead of it making FSH follicular stimulating hormone

or LH your luteinizing hormone. Those are two of course, sexual hormones that in women regulate ovulation and the whole menstrual cycle. What happens is when the HPA axis is in sympathetic fight or flight mode, is it suppresses production of those Regulators if sex hormone and metabolic hormone and it shuts all of its energy and to stimulate dating

the adrenals. So if we don't know what's going on there, I don't want to add more lighter fluid to the fire and throw hormone at that individual, until I see all things at a managed or low. So if someone's clinically low, then absolutely, I'd be quicker to advocate for biological hormone because we actually want to put them on DHEA and then monitor that in 90 days, and maybe we'll start with 25 to 50

milligrams in a woman. And then we might just want to give them DHEA is a level one tear and then see how that metabolizes into other hormone and then did that bring the estradiol levels back online because maybe they were super suppressed, and the woman was in ovulatory and not ovulating and maybe even amenorrhea, not menstruating and then we would

see from there. Okay. Now do we want to bring in a biological or bioidentical hormone blend of an estradiol estriol, which would be like an 80/20 blend of that protective form of estrogen with that more active form. A Scent or did the estrogen levels. Regulate, we just need that progesterone to come up and then we might work with a bioidentical progesterone. And I would say generally speaking, I recommend and prescribe a lot more progesterone to individuals than estrogen.

Estrogen really comes in, in those hormones suppressed individuals, who may have been under eating over-exercising and their bodies, just doesn't have the give the bandwidth to make hormone. And in those individuals that were worried about Bone density. Vaginal atrophy fertility.

And we really just need to get that estrogen back online, but I'm always tighter on monitoring that one with the work that I've done with breast cancer, Etc. But I think bioidentical hormones are absolutely necessary for some but anyone that's using them should be monitoring at least three times a year, if not quarterly, and I'm definitely not a fan of

pellets. I've Just Seen A lot going wrong with hormone implants with Pellets just going totally like super, super high, super super crashy low, very inconsistent. I'm a much bigger fan of transdermal. Topical use now that there's a, there's a demographic of, you know, compounding Specialists that suggests that if you're going through menopause you pretty much need to be taking hormones exhausted, hormones in order to feel and function at a high rate and reach your full potential.

I would. Imagine there's also a pretty big demographic of women that are going through menopause that do have everything down. Dan, their sleep, their, their stress levels, their diets, and they aren't necessarily a kind of like, you don't like having going through menopause, not a death sentence, or her need an absolute need for Exotics

hormones. Correct. Right. You know, again, it's really if they have some of those Health Associated risks and we're seeing clinically low values and I feel like they've been given the opportunity or have been supplementing with the nutrients of need. And so, another big one is my own off the tall which is really a huge Of a derivative cousin of the B vitamins, family, and myo-inositol is just a beautiful nutrient that supports ovarian health.

So that's one that I have like a my woman's hormone bundle and and I would start anyone that has any hormone either excess or insufficiency on that, it's a great modulator and we've seen really substantial research on like 70-plus percent Improvement in ovulation with 4 grams a day, which is, you know, just four thousand milligrams, the amount of a scoop of my relaxing You late and that myo-inositol can be a really great way to gently

ease, without the need of that excess, because you can start to nourish the ovaries. And if the ovaries weren't being nourished from ages, you know, 47, 48, 49. And then you bring in that nourishment, that'll at least at Aid in the easement of that hormone reduction. From not being as much of a dynamic Cliff if you will makes

total sense. So when it comes to you know people trying to obtain a better composition, the trying to lose body fat when women are going through menopause and they're having these The hormone levels that are in a state of flux, either high or low, what can they expect from a competitive standpoint? Like, if they're doing everything right there, tracking, the macros are doing the training or they just can have a much harder time.

Losing that body fan. Well, we look at, of course we know sarcopenia and muscle wasting is the number one driver of aging and we know it well you know oxidative stress because the other things but a big factor in aging and especially in the hormone face and so The biggest thing, I think getting women lifting weights using resistance training and eating ample protein ideally by their mid even early 30s. I mean, the earlier the better, right?

But if we're talking about preventing the impact of stubborn, belly fat, and just feeling fluffy and flabby, if you will, and not having that muscle density, and that biologically active Mass to support that metabolic active tissue. Ooh, so I think that that's the number one factor and then I also am a big proponent of

giving detox support. Because, you know, at that age, we're also accumulating a life time of environmental toxins and many of these now are xenoestrogens and perform as an estrogen compound or compete with other hormone in the body. And so, we really want to watch out for those endocrine disruptors, which can, of course, disrupt Hormonal regulation in the body and I think that detox is a really

great kind of housekeeping. When we're at times prone towards disrupted hormone values, make some sense that I feel like just simply eating enough food in general. Like, I feel like there's so many women that are fitting all of these descriptions and they're not eating or not eating enough. Protein writing enough fat, just something, aren't any enough fuel? And that's incredibly kind of bulk in and of itself.

Absolutely. And then they're getting that hormone steel, you know, that's what I was kind of alluding to, and I was saying, That under chronic stress, the pituitary won't make the LH F sh + T. Sh right so you're suppressing your metabolism and your hormone production, if your cortisol levels are chronically elevated and if you're under eating, you're setting yourself up for a survival mentality and a survival experience in the body, which creates that shunting from

that HPA axis into that sympathetic space. And so, you're really working against yourself without Being that, that more liberated approach. So whether it is, you know, like a refeed like you're doing with your clients or whether it's taking Sunday, to not fast, or whether it's doing a basal metabolic rate, assessment of sorts like a body, a bioelectrical impedance analysis and really seeing what your body requires for caloric intake.

It's often quite liberating when women understand the importance of meeting minimal nutrient goals. Especially if they're coming from a place of Of chronic over restriction and it may come with a little bit of temporary weight gain like as their body, kind of academics to that higher intake, but then like the the benefits far far, outweigh any of the temporary increases in way specially. Once their body does acclimate to it. They typically don't continue to Wayne gain weight for very long.

They often times and I mean and cognitive Clarity enhances very quickly, you know, less of that, feeling of that kind of Sir gadd brain or just overwhelm disorganized often will start to feel a lot more. Grounded when we're eating enough and I think that's kind of the immediate. And so when that's usually the first one is like, okay, let's not, let's not weigh more than once a week and let's just focus on experientially. Oh, you're sleeping better.

That's a huge win. This is what's happening behind the scenes in your metabolism when you're sleeping better, that's a big deal and so helping people find the lifestyle I guess wins if you will. Well they're going through that metabolic shift is really important. We talked about this you know on On my podcast, Robert about how the bodies just to Thrifty and smart.

And we've seen that when anthropologists have studied tribes in Africa, you know, and they're seeing how much output and movement and, and you can call it exercise, but basically movement that these individuals are getting, and you know, why, they're not just totally catabolic. Because their metabolism is slow down based on the amount of intake they can put in their output. And so this this idea of this over-exercising undereating, your body's just going to say ok cool, just burn less.

We figured you out. Yeah. Like people, I mean, I don't, there's just so many there's this massive diet, culture phenomenon, that's been with us. For generations of people just assume that the answer to everything is just eat less. And it's often times the worst thing people can do. Yep. And then that opens a whole door of that power.

He's in calories out, which just also dumbs down food as a two-dimensional substance if you will and that's when then you lose that concept of, you know, are you even eating food? In the first place. Correct, 100%. Let's switch the conversation yet again and talk about some some parenting around nutrition. So you can shinned, baby LED weaning before we even started recording.

Can you define that? Yes. So baby LED weaning is a introduction to solid foods that is done to an a baby often around the 6-month Mark but it might be as late as the seventh or eighth month, usually. 67 is the common time we watch for a couple different signs of Readiness and babes. So babe, has to be able to, of course, sit up and have good head control. Babe, should no longer be doing the tongue thrust where they're kind of kicking things out with their tongue.

They should have a pretty developed pincer grasp grasp, which is the pinch, kind of between the index and thumb of, which they can pick things up and good motor skills to be able to bring food. Adds to their mouth. The idea of baby LED weaning is that we're going to bypass the world of purees. Now, there is some kind of everything has a Venn diagram if you will. So there are some schools of thought that will use some forms of purees eventually maybe at like month eight or month nine.

But in the world of baby LED weaning, that puree would be placed on a spoon for the baby to pick up at will and put in

their own mouth. And so for instance, if you were trying to get like liver Into baby and maybe you want to do like a pate, you know, that be kind of like a puree, but obviously, so different in the world of what we're thinking of when we're thinking of standard baby foods, which the issue is with, with most of the time, you go to the doctor and the doctor says, okay, your baby is ready for solids.

And the solid foods that are used in the states are, you know, either rice or oatmeal cereal, we've seen, High contamination, like ours. Nick Glyphosate with these Foods especially if they're not certified organic. And even in certified organic, we could still see Trace Amounts of these and they're just going to be providing a naked carb a

little bit more props. If you're mixing breast milk with said dried cereals could getting some actual nutrient density, but all of those rice cereals or you know grain-based cereals are going to be fortified and those are synthetically enriched and so when we're doing that we're right away getting you know Unnatural form, a synthetic form of folate into baby and that's why, you know, everyone's so aware now of this MTHFR, this genetic snip that influences

methylation in the body because we've seen such a rise of ADHD and autism, and we're starting to try to figure out, you know, why are we having issues with this pathway in the brain? And I think one part is that, you know, we're feeding fortified Foods way too early and, I mean, great babies that are getting formula are getting fortified synthetic. Enriched folic acid. And you really want, that

methylated form of folate. So that's one, big concern and then it's the naked car blood sugar dysregulation. That's a huge concern and when you're using baby LED weaning, you can actually start baby with fats. That's what we did in my household and then go next to proteins and then bring in carbohydrates, often always paired with proteins and fats and that kind of gets into more of my, like, naturally nourished scope.

Baby LED weaning. You know, most of it is just the idea of letting baby on their own autonomy. Pick up and feed themselves and we see good studies on that supporting. Of course, autonomy Independence satiety. And then when you're using it, in my scope and and getting more fats and proteins and we're going to see of course, better priming for metabolic health and blood sugar metabolism as well as cognition.

I mean, brain development, really, it's such a shame Robert when we look at the RDA for toddlers. It's recommended And generally 13 grams of protein for toddlers. A day, which is just I mean my daughter at Age 2 is consuming 45 to 60 grams of protein a day. So I mean I just think it's pretty remarkable.

Yeah it is kind of wildlife. We were trying to find the stance on what nutrition in breast milk is and it's kind of you know hard to tell for certain less you actually go and get it tested because I would assume the nutritional profile of crystals breast. Milk is far different than someone's eating the standard American diet but like we Math. And it was like, based off of what rigel is supposedly eating

throughout a day. Based off his feeding frequency, he's getting about 1 gram of protein per pound of mass, you know, from from the breast milk roughly. Yeah. Yeah. When he starts eating solid food, that's going to Skyrocket. So whooping far more than thirteen or fourteen grams a day. Yeah and I mean it's again so sad because babies in utero are actually making ketones, right?

And so every baby even actually I mean I don't know to what level of uncontrolled, gestational diabetes may be a Baby wouldn't be. But generally speaking, you know, even a mom that isn't eating and Kido babies are using ketones as fuel in utero, and then a breastfed baby is making ketones and then we just robbed humans of that, hybrid ability of using both fat and glucose as fuel. And just make them convert right away with with those solids.

If we're using cereals right away to just exclusively using glucose has fuel. And so, I think, when I again, when I look at ancestral patterns, Eating just, as I believe that humans work really well as omnivores. I also just as equally, see the importance of keeping humans. In this hybrid ability to have access of ketones as fuel. Yeah. 1000%. On that note, you know, most like human our kids especially that are growing.

They have a much higher metabolic rate, you know, at rest, you know, given given a lot of situations are but I mean, they're going to be burning a lot, more more, readily than most of us that are sitting in an office all day long. They're going to have a higher tolerance for carbohydrate consumption, generally speaking, and for that reason, it makes total sense in my mind where they would be able to tolerate more fruits, more vegetables.

Sure more, things of that nature than a lot of the sedentary

general population would. Now on that note, is there, do you think there's any adverse long-term effects that would come from having a child grow pretty well, following a standard ketogenic diet as opposed to more of a mix that even I mean I would assume they would still be able to Be producing a pretty good degree of ketones, even if their total carbohydrate intake was less than 100 grams a day, based off of their activity and their expenditure, but no doubt find

any adverse effects. If a adolescent was to be following a ketogenic diet from the get-go and continue on. Well, I mean in the neurological conditions population of children, obviously epilepsy and when we think of seizure control, that's when we go into, of course the kind of more Clinical keto approach, where it's that, that three or four to one ratio in that world, you know, when we're not even allowing protein, we're really suppressing protein to get fat

up at that ratio. I think that long-term effects cost of benefit, obviously for neurological Health, outweigh, the impact to maybe the comprehensive nutrient density, but if we're using more of an approach of Quito of being fat dominant, but also getting a good amount of A protein and not suppressing protein intake. I think that that can absolutely be sustained. So my daughter when we worked with baby LED weaning, she started with avocado and she worked with avocado for a good 10 days.

If not two weeks until she was really rocking it and like eating avocado because you know, at first they're like just trying to get in their mouth and then they're like gum in it and like spitting it out and figuring it out and it was just a very we try to keep it super Low-stress we'd always play good music. We were just kind of chill and she'd hang out at the dinner table and just play with avocado. And even prior to that, I would allow her for like sensory. We worked with smells.

So like if I was slicing something, I would bring it to her so that she could start to create some of that salivary enzyme release. So, we did that like at month for where, if I was cutting up carrots for something, I would give her a whole care and she would just kind of gum it, you know, in tooth it and I think that that's a really great way to start to pray. Them for foods and Beyond the avocado. Then she went secondary to

salmon. And then from there, she went to Blueberry, I believe with her third food so that was her first quote, unquote harb. If you will, obviously quite low glycemic and the ratio of the amount of Barry that she was having at that seven months, Mark was probably a tablespoon kind of per meal type thing. And it really I would say until that first year, Where did she start to bring her carbs even to

hit goodness, 45 50 grams. And that's when we were incorporating, you know, roasted sweet potato and coconut oil and you know, just continuing to kind of move into more of a Paleo wish approach to eating. I think that carbs find children everywhere they are especially when they get into the toddler plus ages and are socializing or at some form of school or you know, Camps or whatever it is friends, houses, Gatherings carbs? Always find them.

And so that's not one that I prioritize as a nutrient-dense goal, when I'm working with kiddos, like Toddlers and kids, I do aim to get two to three colors in each meal and so often, you know, two of those maybe like a red bell, pepper, or green, roasted broccoli. And then they might do purple or blue in the world of that blueberry or, you know, a different shade of red and the resulting.

A raspberry but generally when I'm saying choosing three colors, we try to aim for two of those coming from. Veg one from a carb. Yeah, so totally. Well, within the realm of them still following a low carb diets nutrient-dense Foods. I mean, no, no. Pop Tarts and Hot Pockets, right? Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. I mean, it's wild and with my daughter at age, six. So, like, I'll tell you what her lunch was today, just so you can kind of get a snapshot of what things are looking like for her.

So for breakfast at these Is she weighs 45 pounds? She's super strong athletic. Build step. Pretty great abs, actually, when I saw her on the monkey bars recently, but she will eat for breakfast like to pasture-raised eggs, raw cheddar and bacon, and that's just with water and then she'll probably like a half cup of some form of berries, and then her lunch. She's really into kabobs these days. So if we're doing like a meatball All sometimes will be a lunch and that's a great way to

get organs into your kiddos. And so, you know, we might do like a ancestral blend of grass-fed meats, and then add in a quarter, pound of ground, heart and liver. And that's a really great way than in a flavored meatball with a bunch of herbs and seasonings that something. She'll go for but today was in-house roasted turkey cubes with cucumber. Slices bell.

Pepper slice and an olive and She like, we put these on these, like, cool looking toothpicks, because she thinks it's kind of a cool thing, a little bento box. And then she had some wild salmon B in the other part of her bento box. And then, the next container was torn up pieces of dried mango and pistachio. And then in the fourth section was, leftover, roasted broccoli. That's kind of, like what her lunch looks like.

So she got protein. Yeah. So she got protein from Um, she got two and a half ounces of that, turkey one ounce of cheddar and then she got an ounce and a half of the wild salmon. So I mean just in that lunch, she's getting a solid, you know, 30 + grams of protein. So when she's in like a field trip and she, you know, pops open her lunchbox, like the other kids looking at her, like what are you eating?

Or they like jealous or they like, you know, trying to give her a Go-Gurt. Like, how's that working? I think it's a combination. She's pretty empowered and so she'll it's funny. She was at a church camp over the summer. And they got out of the swimming pool and they were giving chocolate chip cookies to the kids and Stella's like, oh, I don't think that that's gluten-free. I can't have that. And they went and got her a popsicle and she goes.

Well, I'm pretty sure that has food coloring in it. So, I also can I like it? Because I feel like them and Empower them like they're, I mean, they're all about it. Yeah, I mean, it's cool. It's cool. She's a little diva about it and she'll just be like, uh, and I mean at age four she would start to see like, at the grocery. Us restore characters, you know, because they're marketed to kids. So they'll put the PAW Patrol or the Frozen or the whatever on the gushers and the gummies and

the all the the crap. And you know, I would use the time. We'd look at it, would flip over the container and I'd reader the words and we would talk about how, you know, these are not whole real foods. There's a lot of words in here, and this is a really processed food and characters, don't belong on your food, you know, characters, you can draw, you can color character Book you might even have a figurine but that's not food food.

Doesn't need characters to sell them that doesn't require to nourish your body and so now, she'll like, see a character should like Mom, did you see that? That's not a food, right? I'm like, you're right well, I think it's especially awesome. That you've got the land.

You can be doing the homesteading and she's going to be right there mixed, like and it all because I think when you do that like when you raise kids online and they're getting their hands dirty and they're procuring their yeah.

Who like the depth of knowledge and appreciation that have for it just becomes just a Exponentially amplifying to the point where they just that's just their norm and they take that on you know, into the later years of their life and that's worth it's worth its weight in gold for sure. Yeah and I mean I've even done programs back in the day in Houston. I was in the Fifth Ward in a pretty, I don't know pretty urban urban area and it was a organization called recipe for Success.

So we would bring garden beds on to these Urban campuses and teach the kids how to grow food. And then we would do this exercise where we actually Like a Hot Pocket. And we would have, this was like third and fourth graders and

we'd hand the chalk around. And I mean you could have a class of 18 and all of them would write one ingredient of the hot pocket on the board and it was just hilarious because it took forever like you know, partially hydrogenated soybean oil take a long time for a third grader to write. Yeah. And and, you know, maltodextrine and we'll and then what we would do is we would take a colored piece of chalk and we would go around the classroom and say, okay, What, what, what ingredients do?

You know what they look like? And then we would color the other color, the ones that they don't know what they look like, and then we would take a recipe to make pizza, right? And so, yeah, you know, maybe not the most nourishing food, but to really exemplify like, okay, this is like flour, water yeast, Tomatoes, ground down or blended with olive oil and herbs. And it was just really cool to see, you know, kids, that were bringing talkies and and soda

and eaten. You know, process fast food really Have those like strikes of aha moments of like oh yeah like this isn't food and then watch them take that home in their household and you know, really be open to eating fresh things that they've grown. But also just that that deep understanding of the impact of what we're putting in our bodies. Yeah, I mean when you look at like this, it's so sad. I've seen so many like legitimately morbidly obese kids like less than 10 years old and

it's just sad. Like they're growing up not knowing any of this stuff. I that's just kind of what What their parents eat? They make it really easily accessible to them. They don't moderate it at all. They don't educate him at all and they just they're plagued with these massive health issues, right out the gates. And like, if you can just offset that by simply taking the time to explain what the ingredient list is on the back of a box and

Empower them. Like, that's how we change the next Generations. Healthspan right there. Yeah, yep. And and right, I think education and empowerment is so key and it's wild. I mean, the toddler's RDA for carbohydrates is 150. G, that's the minimum recommendation. And I mean we're seeing so much of these carbs coming from crystallized. Fructose still high fructose, corn syrup. And so we're seeing kiddos not

only with diabetes. I mean it was just in the last two decades that it used to be called type 2 diabetes used to be called adult onset diabetes you know juvenile diabetes was just type one. Only that was the only form and so this is just in the last couple decades now that we've had to Rebrand, if you will you know to quote Don't quote normalize this excessive carbohydrate and processed

refined sugar consumption. And you know we're also seeing kiddos and adolescents with fatty liver at Young ages and I mean it's just wild. We emphasize the influence of course of alcohol awareness and whatnot.

But I think what's really scary in today's culture when we look at kind of trying to support Mass empowerment and mass education is the The slippery slope of this kind of like all foods fit and the movement of Health at every size and, you know, I think of course there's always a line right? That it's not appropriate to body. Shame, anyone or of course to bully someone. But I think that it's okay to talk about what Fitness looks

like. It's okay to talk about how you best support your body's function. What stresses your organs and I think it's just a such a disservice in some of the the cultural shifts we're seeing now or cultural norms of. I forget the the artist but there was like something that came out of them. So I'm so out of touch with pop culture. But it's like Lizzie or Izzy or I don't know.

Someone's, yeah. Part on instacart, you know, or whatever and it's just it's just total garbage and I'm like, why is that this like, why are people ordering that cart? Don't they see that? That doesn't create health. I'm very confused with the the disconnect there and unfortunately now it feels like there's that that kind of line of like Aiming. And that's what's hard.

I think in the school systems is now empowerment education of true Wellness. Yeah, it's sad because like, I mean, this could become a whole talk on philosophy and Paul. Yeah and everything. But like when you I'm totally on board with wanting to be just open arms and like helping people of all different backgrounds, all different

races, a lily everything. I bet that's important but the this massive push for this all inclusivity Factor comes at the cost in certain industries, especially Really around like, Food and Health to like there being no, no standards, no moral code of ethics. No lines drawn. And when you stand for nothing, then you fall for anything. I think that's exactly what we're seeing happening and unfolding across multiple different Industries right now. Well, I love that phrase. Yeah, yeah.

I got actually in Austin kicked off of a panel essentially in 2019 because I forget it was a women's empowerment, you know, panel and I was talking about how to empower yourself through food. Good. And I said something to the effect on the microphone about how know, you know, Oreos just should not be consumed. Like like I'm sorry. Like there's no amount of Oreo that is a healthy amount of Oreo of like, if you want chocolate, you can eat an 80% chocolate bar.

If you want, you know what I mean? Like, there's a way to satiate cravings and to even have an Indulgence, I think is appropriate. But at what level are we dumbing ourselves? Down to accept eating processed. Again, I apologize for the third time saying, shit, but but now forth. You know what level are we doing ourselves down to consume chemical shitstorms and call them Foods at what services

that? And I just think, unfortunately, the the connection of, as we know, big egg and processed food, industry and Pharma is very tightly intertwined.

And so, there's a lot of dollars behind keeping Well in the dark and disempowerment because you know you can save your mucus that you could pay her Farmers now or your ranchers and eat whole real foods or you're paying your doctors and your insurance and your, you know, your co-pays and you're, you know, refills at your prescriptions later, that's just

kind of how that goes. Yeah, 1000% I feel like, you know, I don't know the, I don't think that the solution to the problem is to ban or outlaw that like I'm very much so pro-choice and is having the option to consume whatever we Choose to consume. Like, if, if you were to try to have a Prohibition of Oreos, it's not going to go over too well, right? Don't kid yourself into thinking that it's a health food or that it's okay. Like just I mean nobody is going to argue.

That alcohol is a health food. Now, right, have the maturity and responsibility to consume a small amount and recognize you know what the the cost benefit is there then by all means, go for it. But don't don't lie to yourself into thinking that, you know, Oreos, these processed foods are going to be like any form of Food. Yes. Yes, right. No doubt, Wiley. I know you've got your lard rendering right now, so I don't want to keep you too long here.

But where do people go to find out more about you and dive deeper into your world goodness. So, you can hang out with me on social, like, Instagram and Facebook under Ali Miller Rd so it's just Alim IL lerrrd. And I'm sure that's where I'll start to do a little bit more stories and stuff. I just got out of Instagram censorship jail. So Now, you can tag me and find me and all the things. Yes, this is a very big celebration there. And then my website is Ali, Miller are d.com.

And on there is where I have my naturally nourished, supplement line. I have protocols. So things anything from estrogen dominance to supporting your thyroid to an immune protocol, to seasonal allergies and so forth. Bone broth, fasting, protocols and all sorts of stuff there and that's in my learn Tab. And And I still have on naturally nourished our d.com, that's where my podcast lives and the podcast and YouTube are

called naturally nourished. And then, you know, you can find the YouTube channel on YouTube. And the podcast is anywhere. You can listen to a podcast. So, you know, Google Play and Apple, iTunes and all of all the spots. Awesome. I would definitely count to all of those. Make it easy for people to find you. You are a wealth of knowledge. Always Point all my clients that have questions on hormones to you. Because you are the bomb, diggity Fighting the good fight. So keep doing exactly what

you're doing. Thank you brother. Happy to be on, always a fun time. Talking with you chat soon. I'll be in Wimberley to check out the market here before too long. Well it sounds good. Take care.