SO EP:638 I'm Not Ready For This!

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see what it was? It was enough out here looking them do the one going now? And I don't need anything. I don't want to go outside. Just fight. Hello, hit the fuddy out here? What quin I'm out there? I thought of a bit just about taking foot nine. I don't know. Easy an out there? Yeah, I'm walking right, heady, all.

have you here. Let's start where I start with everybody that comes on the show, What in the world got you interested in bigfoot sasquatch skunk ape.

to Holla Sas of Florida. It's a very popular area for scalloping and fishing down there. I have another ramp that I use that takes you there's a really really public one, and there's one I use which takes you back down this road called Old Mason Creek, and it winds back in the middle of nowhere. About three miles down that road you go through a real thick area with a bunch of winding series of best curves like

you can look from this curve and see down. Took the fourth curve as I'm coming around my buddy, he was looking at the window. I was looking for deer. This time of morning. It was about six thirty in the morning, but at that time of year, the sun was just starting to peek over the top of the trees. Coming down, I got about to that series of curves and to the left side of the road. It was up ahead, probably a good seventy five eighty yards about

a third curve up. I saw a big look like a dude coming up from the side of the road. As I'm coming up close to the curve, he's coming up and he's already now, he's already onto the road, and he took another step and was like in the middle of the road, and right when he stepped in the middle of the road. The light from the trees coming to the sun was coming up from behind the trees behind it. It did it like a silhouette. It

was the craziest thing. He went from dark shadow guy to cinnamon like he turned cinnamon, and as he walked more into it, it couldn't really see him. It lit him up for a minute and then he was gone, and then it was just like the hair follicles from behind it. The picture saw a shadow walking in front of light and that hair like moving. It was quick, but I'll never forget that silhouette of the hair he stepped in. I came around the curve and as I come back, they go back to where I could see

where he was at. He was already gone. I stopped jumped out. My friend's like, what's going on. I'm like, you didn't see that? It's like see what I was like, you didn't see that thing that just walked in front of us. He's like, what thing? I was like, dude, I don't know what that was. But it was like cinnamon, reddish brown colored with hair, and it was every bit of seven foot tall. He's like, what do you think

you saw? Bigfoot, and I'm like, I don't know what the heck I just saw, but it just walked right in front of my truck. How did you miss it? And we're not ready to get an argument over it. He's like making fun of me and everything. And I didn't realize at that moment how much that affected me. And that moment literally changed my entire life because I went home. At first, I walked around and looked. I didn't see any footprints. I didn't see anything. I wasn't

really knowing what I was looking for back then. I was just in shock still what I just saw. My brain didn't want to process it. So we went did our fishing trip, and like the whole day, I was thinking about it, and I went home. From that moment forward, the thing I could go into and find out about bigfoot, I was doing it. And then I started going out. I wanted to prove to myself that I know what I saw, and I wasn't lose in my mind. I'm not a big hunter, but I'm very familiar with Florida.

I grew up here forced generation in our woods or different type of woods. Are swamps are a little different. I know you've been out of them before. I've grown up in it, and I thought I had seen everything here. There was a c That's what really got me. You're leaping forward after that.

hole full board. Let's go back to the siding for a second before we move into some of your other research and into your experiences when that happened, when this thing stepped across the road, was it immediate for you that you knew what you were looking at? Did it take you a second to process? And how long after the encounter, because I know this was the big thing

for me when I had my experiences last year. After that happened, I'm still frankly processing what I saw, and things will come to me in the middle of the day when I'm working on a podcast or something. I'll think, oh shit, I remember seeing this, and I didn't even remember it at the time when I had my encounter.

little bit over it. That is where it is. He sees his things his way and I see him my way. He's one of those that he only believes what he sees in front of him, and that's fine. He's entitled to his opinion. He's one of those people that he can't change unless Bigfoot walks up and grabs him out of his tent. When it first happened, it definitely took me a while to process. I didn't know what the hell I saw because at first my brain sets look at that guy walking up from the side of the

road because he was solid shadow. The sun is just peeking, so it's still pretty dark. It had a perfect dark silhouette with him walking up, and as soon as he got up to the road, he hit that spot and it just was like bam. My whole brain did a hold. What how does something that big disappear that quick? I couldn't see his face if you pictured his son's back here, so all I got was his arm when he came out hit the light and it turned him that centiment color.

But when I hit the shadow, it was like silhouette again, so I don't have a lot of detail.

I didn't know any of this back then. As a kid, I used to go out and that the well field, just like fish in the cree. I mean, a couple buddies would always go out there and go hiking and running around. Of being kids teenagers out there running around in the woods and stuff. I always got creeped out when I was buy myself out there. After that incident happened, I'm like, that is the perfect place for one of these things to be. If something's gonna be out there.

That's where one could be because the preserve is almost ten thousand acres, which in Florida, that's a big area the way Florida's building up, so happens to be that dis preserved is dead smack in the middle of the corridor, which I didn't know back then either. The first time I ever went out by myself was my second encounter. The area is you got to get back there, drive to the gate and then there's one paved road that's one lane that swift Mud uses to go back and

check on their pumps and stuff. And then other than that this there's nothing back there, no motors, no hunting, nothing. You got to take your bike and ride a bike back there about two and a half miles, three miles back to the creek, and then it's another mile back through trails to get to where I wanted to go. So I went in there. My bike was making too much noise. You remember, back then, I'm thinking, I gotta go full camo fool everything I think outside the box

about stuff. Sometimes I thought, go in the middle of the day. If these things are supposed to be nocturnal, just like a deer, you sneak up on deer easier the middle of day when they're bedded down. I'm thinking, I'll go out there in the middle of the day. I'm gonna sneak up on these things. I'm full camo. I get out there, I walk the rest of the way, and I get to the trail that I wanted to go, which is part of the creek goes right into it.

I went to the thickest part of the cypress everything I could find, and that's where I wanted to go. And I go in there, and I follow this little trail that goes back to the four wheel trail, and I found a little tiny road that went to the right, and I start walking it, and I found these two little bare footprints, one in front of another, and I was like, what the hell are kids doing back here? Barefoot?

Way back here? This is how I thought. And then ahead of me was a tree that was crossing the path this way, and another tree that was crossing the path this way, right in front of where those little footprints were. About halfway down the trail, I got to that tree, those two trees, and everything in my gut that tells you not to do something went off and do not cross that tree. These are putty or for a reason, you're not supposed to go over there. I'm

gung ho. I've been in Florida my whole life. That scares me out there. I stepped over to the other one. Took about three steps time. I found a footprint that was probably about fifteen inches long. And I was sitting there looking at that footprint. Oh my god, this is real. And about the time I'm looking at that, have you ever heard anything fall into pal meadows? How loud it is? That loud crash? Well, this is middle of the day in June or July somewhere around there, summer, no wind blowing,

no nothing, and it's dead, still hot. I looking at that footprint heard just fun it to me. It sounded like something used a tree to get up, it broke and fell into the palmitdes and I was like, oh shit, it was loud. And then this gurgle started. If you've heard a big male alligator is the closest thing I could get to what it was close to. It was deeper than a big male alligator's bellow. And it kept going and I was like feeling what it was doing.

I literally didn't want to look it was. It couldn't have been more than twenty or thirty yards away from me. It wasn't far. It was right there, and I didn't want to look at it. I turned and I'm going to talk to it. I said, I'm leaving. I'm sorry, I'm leaving. I am scared shitless, Brian, and I've never felt the fear that I fell to that moment as a grown man. Terrified, dude, I can't run because that's a predator. Probably, I don't know what that is right there.

I get up to the road. Now, now I got to walk a half a mile out after this happened, I turned left to get on the main trail. I start walking, so it was over here. I take a step. It takes a step, and I hear another step. I would take a step. They took steps. Every time I stopped, it stopped. Oh my god, it's following me. I got tears watering up in my eyeballs. As a full grown man, I'm not coming out of here. I'm gonna die back here. If I pissed this thing off, it's gonna kill me.

I started walking. I keep going and I heard something. It was sticks, they were freaking throwing sticks at me. They were throwing them, and they were hitting the trees, and one of them laying on the tree on in front of me. I'm still got my butt fucker walk going and I keep on going, and I swear I saw something to my peripheral go by, and I'm thinking that's it. He's going up. He's flanking me. He go ahead of me. I'm done. I made it to my bike,

got on it started peeling out of there. Nothing ever happened. I got out to the main little paved road, peddled my butt off. I got back to my truck. Right when I get off my bike, I threw up and then my head started pounding so bad. For four days, my ears felt like they were swollen. I got zapped. I didn't even know what it was, but I think one hundred percent got zapped.

the reaction seems to be the same with everybody. Is this overwhelming fear and then it's either something going on with the insides, the ears and the nausea in retrospect, I think you already answered the question, but do you think, looking back now, that's what it was. Do you think this thing might have hit you or multiple things might have hit you with infrasound and that's why you had this reaction? And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be right back after these messages.

really had to know what the hell that was. Because I knew what it was, I knew I had gone out to do what I wanted to do and I found it. I'm not crazy. I know I'm not crazy. Now, I went back to that same spot with my buddy one time, with two of my buddies. We found some footprints, we found some brave We got yelled at by something in the middle of the night, which was terrifying, and that was the last time I really did much out there because it's so hard to get back in there.

It's patrolled at night by an arm guard. Didn't know that until that night, and we were politely asked to not go back there anymore. Why is that area patrolled by an arm guard at night? Who works for the government? Weird? I've been back there a few times, I can tell you out of all the places I've been. David Sidodi and ISRT guys, they're the first people I ever really went out with. I took them back there to that spot. Now was the first time I met that group, and

we did some really good pictures. So David thinks I was the first person to ever find an inverted tree in Florida, an inverted cypress tree. It was like about a fifth foot long cypress tree with the root ball sticking up in the air, and it was right off the main trail that took you back to where that encounter happened.

know I've at least posted it online. It was a large pine tree, probably twenty to thirty feet long, with the root ball end of it stuck into a hole in the side of a bank. Oh wow, right here on our property, just randomly. I discovered it on a hike. And I've seen weird things like that in other places, some weird tree stuff up in Radium when I was

there a couple of years ago. Before we get into some of the other experiences, while we're talking about that really quickly, are you guys finding a lot of what people would call tree breaks or tree structures or lean to TP kind of structures down there? Are you finding that kind of stuff it's weird.

I wish I would have known back then. Brian. They would blow your mind, like the amount of footprints I found, and I didn't realize how rare it was to find these things. I found some really unique tree deals in our main research area. One of the first things I found in there, there was a tree like this, a tree like this, and another one that didn't even come from there that was braided in the middle of it.

And it wasn't from that. It was like it was brought over and there was only one that was in the ground and like the other one has been pushed over, and the other one was brought over and it was like braided in between it at the top of that and this is going right above a game trip but there was only two active trails to get into that spot, and right on one of the main game trails, that braided tree goes up and it goes up probably about twenty five foot up at an angle like that, and

at the top of it there was palmetto fronds, pieces of oak tree, all different types of trees up there. It looks like a blind almost like a hunt and blind. It was perfect. If someone's sitting up there, could jump down onto a deer or something below really easyly. The coolest thing I ever found, though, was a trip wire. I found a trip wire if you want to look about these things being intelligent. Kind of jumping ahead a

little bit. But the area that I'm talking about is an area that I've been going into for almost four years now. I know it's a family group in there, and we've interacted a lot with it. A lot of amazing things that happened back there, about thirty yards from that braided tree off that road. What it is, you got a fence line back there. You got to walk down the side or walk down the side to get

to the very back of it. It's owned by the county, so there's not not just a piece of property is there, but it goes directly into the preserve, the same preserve that I had my other encounter happen. It's the same preserve, just on the other side of them. It's all still part of the same preserve, all where all this happened.

Walking down that trail, if you were going to set up a tripwire, if your trail's going like this, and you got a trail going like this, if you're standing right here and something's running a deer down their way right here is about a perfect place to put you

a tripwire. There was a tripwire about thirty feet across a vine about three quarters of an inch and it was two and a half of it off the ground, perfect deer height where a deer would run into it if it was being flanked into it or running into it. The vine was perfect like it was like you did it with a level. It was went around one tree around another tree, and it had a stick in the middle and the stick twisted and held against the tree to keep the tension on it. And it was like

and you couldn't see it. It was a vine. I'm like, this is a trip wire right around the corner from there the same spot, there's that trie you turn and go this way to get out, and it's like a freaking obstacle course, trees leaning up against the fence. Everything's all kind of weird, And I used to think it was for me, for other people to keep humans out. No, that's the slowdown animals man, so they can hunt. It makes sense. Your damn things are smart, dude.

very very remote and hard to get into. But we're back there fishing, and told them I want to taking fishing on one who little squashed at the same time. We're back there. If you've heard bard owls before, everybody's heard bared owls. Well, we're sitting there. The creek runs like a Z and there's a bush right here. You can't see past back behind it, so you we're fishing right here, you can't see until you get around that bush. You can see back where it goes and makes an

X kind of curve. So we're sitting there fishing. What the hell's going on? It sounded like twenty different owls all in one group going on, but it didn't quite sound like owls. They created me out a little bit, and I'm like, you know what, it was the first experience I'd have with him with me. We're sitting there. A couple minutes later, he starts dead. I see something and I'm like, quit messing with me, Kale, and don't mess with me, because there he is a get haling dude.

And I do a theory started crying. Man, you started crying. He got really upset, and I'm like, what did you see? He's like, it was looking at me. It's there and they're looking at me behind the tree. And I'm like, all right, we're gonna go. We're gonna leave now, because you know, I'm still learning this whole thing. So I take him back later that night. I'm like, hey, buddy, I was like, would you mind drawing draw a picture of what you saw? He drew this little illustration was perfect,

with this little peeking out looking at him. He said, it looking like a big guy. And he saw about two feet of it stick out and go back. He said, then it went back again and went back. So now I've got it in my mind. I'm going there the next day. From where I had to get into there, there's a creek that runs through, so the only way to get to it you can't cross the creek. We got ten twelve foot gaters in there, so I had

to go all the way around. It's about four miles by the time I get all the way around back to where this is at. Well, I took my dog with me, Miiley, just me and her. I get back into that spot and now I know I'm close to where all those sounds were coming from. I found a footprint right in the middle of this little it was like a beach sandy little trail going in. I found one print. I found another print. How did you get the measure them? But i'll around thirteen or fourteen, But

they were fat and wide. If they had a funny shape to them, they weren't a normal shape. I took some pictures of them. I don't know why, but I just wanted to go onto the trail. My dog was stiff, and that's what it was, and I just followed her nose and there was a game trail going into the woods, and I followed that back in, and I knew that actually went directly back into where the creek was. If we were standing and looking at the other side of

the creek had been in that area. So we go on there it was, and we got back to it and I found a clump of trees. There was three palm trees, and those three palm trees were leaning like this about the saying. On the right side of the palm tree was a piece of wood, a tree that was completely skinned, no bark on it, and it was supporting the side of that like this underneath it. Over here it was dug out under the roof. Ball palm trees don't just flip over. It didn't happen too easy.

There were none other trees knocked over, nothing but these three trees. And I pictures, but these three trees were leaned over like this. Underneath it was dug out, and it looked like a silhouett of a big body had been in there, almost see the dips where it had been sitting. And my dog went off in there, just found smelling around. And I'm a horrible photographer, horrible videographer, whoever you want to say. I'm bad because I'm adhd. But it makes me good at bigfooting because I'm all

over the place. So I didn't realize it at the time, but i'm recording, I'm like, oh my god, I excited them all over the place. I caught something on film. I went back. I had my buddy Tim slowed down the film. Mike, I see something on your film. I go back and look at this picture, and there's not standing in beside this tree that I didn't know it was right inside of me and my dog. I slowed down even more and I got a profile this thing sitting like this, looking away like he was going back

behind the tree. We estimated a size comparison when Stacey Brown came with me him this camera guy one time back there, Brian, his camera guy was six two, speaking him up to his belly right the exact spot where it was at. This thing was nine foot tall, which goes directly into that same day, before I had that the pictures, me and my dog had left that spot and walk back out to the main trail. I wanted to follow farther back in there, I found a nineteen

inch footprint. I didn't get the measurement on how much ahead of it was, but there was another footprint, and I have pictures of them. They were nineteen inches by ten inches wide. I could look like the back had pushed his weight off of stepped down. The whole heel went about two inches thick of mud that popped up. It was pretty wet and back there had been raining recently. And next one you could see wasn't all grass and

it was just a perfect silhouette of a footprint. Right then and there, the radar went off again, just like it did when I was in those trees. U huh, I ain't doing that shit again. I got goosebumps right now thinking about it. My brain said, nope, you're not doing it. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna get my pictures. This is amazing. Those footprints are aiming that way and something's over there. I'm not going there by myself. I'm gonna come back with my friend. Well, I'm getting my

pictures and everything. My dog she locks up and she's just staring at the woodline. Picture if you will. The woodline from the trail is about twenty five thirty yards, but you can't see into it because it's probably ten foot tall twelve foot tall of thick bush. You know how Florida gets real dens in areas. So I couldn't see into it. Out on top of it, I could see three or four trees that were coming up. She says.

didn't want no part of the same thing. Yell, I'm sorry, I'm leaving. I'm sorry. I called my best friend, the only person, one of my friends, the only one who knew where I was at because I was way back in here. Nobody's gonna find my body, is what I'm thinking. This damn thanks pushing the trainer's pot tall. I am not ready for this. I just found bootprints this big and now this thing is shaking a damn tree again, right in the middle of the day. It happened again,

same way. I called him and I'm like, hey man, he's what's wrong. I'm like, just listen, shut up and listen. Remember I told you where I was going on the map, and I was like, yeah, I went back there. Something's back there, just pushed the tree over. I don't know what to do. I said, if I don't come back at twenty minutes, you don't hear from me, send the police to my location. He's like, you're really scared. I'm like, hey, yes,

I'm scared. So I made it back to my truck and there's two officers sitting there at my truck because I had parked across the street from a fancy neighborhood and walked into a power line run to go back in. They thought I was hunting back there. So now I go up to these officers. I gotta go freaking sea officers. Now my eyeballs are like this, I am terrified. I probably look like I am on something meth And they're like, what are you doing back there? I'm like nothing, I'm

just walking my dog. I look at a crackhead. So I ended up talking to him and they're like, what are you really doing back there? I told him, I'm to be honest with you. I was looking for a big I've had some stuff happen. Now I want to go back and research in this area. I want to do nothing more. Nat He goes, that has to be an on storage, and nobody would tell me that. Do you know how the people are here? I said, I get it. It's like they think you're hunting data, worried

about their house, this and that. He goes, try and find another way go into where you're going. I don't think you're doing nothing wrong. We'll have a good day. That was encounter number two.

there was three. One peaked up, another one peeked up, and then I peeked out this way from the tree. They were right there, all together, a girl, little group, and then they were gone. And the more I went in these areas, it was like the more they made direct sounds, well, I'm not going to say that they wanted to come out and hang out with me, but

they definitely were tolerating me. And then I started taking my son in there to more and with me, and that's when things when I got crazy, like especially with vocalizations. I learned a lot from these areas. I don't know what it's like around you guys, but here's what I've learned as far as when you come into a new area, you go into a brand new area, one of the first things that happens where they're at is you hear a set of bargells go off right when you get

in the area. Then back a ways back you'll hear and over here you'll hear it's usually like twice. You hear it middle of the day, no matter when you go, you hear those bardows go off and then dead silent, And when it gets to dead silent mode, they're there. You know they're there and they're following you. I swear that's what it is. It goes that dead silent mode you don't even hear mosquitoes buzzing, and it's like they're there. But there's some areas where like where I had the

first encounter, a bad one. I've been in there before, and whatever's in there, I think he's a gigantic alpha male and he's got a presence about him, and he doesn't like people. I don't think he wants you around there, and he lets you know it, he makes you feel it. But this family group, it was like, because I was in there with my son and being nowhere in there like I used to be, I started mimicking the sounds that I heard when I would go in, and I

would basically let him know it was me. So first time I walk in, I started hearing just it, nothing more than that. And then you hear another like different tones of not big loud howls, just little hoots, like they're just communicating with these little tiny hoots, letting each other know where you're at. So I walk in now every time I come in and I wait a lot of times i'll hear way back out in the woods

or in the swamp or something out here. But that's me letting them know, Hey, I'm in, I'm here at your house. I'm coming in. I'm not coming uninvited. When we went to Walhington State, I learned that from Thomas Seawood. He's the one that told me that. I learned so much from that guy. Man, he was so awesome. He's like, you're going into their house. How would you feel someone came into your back door and just walked in? And it made so much sense. I'm like, that's why they

scared me and ran me off. They did their job, but they didn't hurt me. If they wanted to, they could have taken me out. They didn't. I got warned and I learned my lesson. The weird part now is, ever since I've been zapped, I swear to God, I don't know what it is, but I am so sensitive to these things, especially in the woods when i'm in there, my ears start getting almost like when you have your

finger in your ear, that pressure feeling. When I'm around them, whatever that energy is, I pick up on it now and I couldn't do that before, but now I can, and it's strangely accurate. It's crazy how accurate it is. I've been out there with friends and had thermals on and picked up heat signatures from where I said there's something at I don't have an explanation for it. It's just like that now. It's like they did something to me. When it hit me, I'm so sensitive to it, and

we joke around. It's like a beacon going off. I'm being pooled to where they're at, and it's always effective. We always find stuff whenever I do that.

orbs and other things that you've experienced. I guess the question for you is have you experienced some of this weird stuff that would be considered wo or high strangeness and how do you approach that in your research and how you look at the subject and look into the subject.

a gift I have to give you. It's going to help you with your dreams. And I looked at her and cross eye. She's like, they're going to help you with your dreams. It'll help you understand them. What how does this woman know I was having dreams like I started getting these random dreams, like they were the most vivid dreams you've ever had so vivid. They led me to Google Earth, where I found these spots that I can't in at and these spot where I found this

group that I've had all this interaction with. How is that even possible? But it happened. It's like I'm supposed to meet that group to learn from. I can tell you it's something that they helped me. And I don't have an answer for it, Brian, but they helped me. I was depressed. I was severely depressed for a while. Me and my son mom separated. I was going through a really really bad time and one of my dreams they said, come here will make you feel better. I

remember going there raining a little bit. It was grizzily out. I went out there and just sat down on this log. I didn't even want to be around anyone that knew nothing, man. I was just completely down. And I'm sitting on that log and this sound came through the trees and it was like a sound I never heard before, and it carried and it like went through me, and a couple of seconds later, another sound from farther over this way, the same sound but deeper, came back and it went

through me. I stopped feeling sad. I started feeling happy. It was like I was being part of something that was so cool. I don't even know how to explain it. And they only did it that those two times, but I could hear things moving around, I could hear things going on. I don't know, man, it was almost like they accepted me to be there and helped me at the same time. And I have no idea how they did it. So that's my womb part.

like you, I'm probably not going to like you. Because there's a reason, right, there's something to that. I don't know what the science behind it is, but there is something that they're able to pick up on. And that's why I look at these creatures very similarly to dogs, for example. Not that by any stretch of my saying, sasquatch, bigfoot, skunk, ape, any of these things are domesticated, So please don't send me emails saying I'll compare them to a domesticated animal.

that spectrum. Daniel Barnett. A lot of people I know that have had experiences are high energy, ADHD, autistic or something on that spectrum. People that have they pick up on good and bad energies themselves. I can tell you who the bad guy is in a movie instantly. I can tell you if you're good or bad when I'm around you for a few minutes. You know what I mean. I pick up on it too, and I swear that

is another thing we're able to communicate with them. If you're on that level, I think your brain is just wired a little different. I do things that aren't always right and it works for me, and I feel like if you're on that level, maybe that's why. And it makes a lot of sense. A lot of people on that spectrum have interactions with these things.

of these creatures. Why would something like that be that close to me? Why why does any wild animal get that close to a human being in their se It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I think my personal opinion about the two that I believe we encountered on that particular night was that they were curious. There's no other reason for it. They were whistling, they were letting us know that they were there because they wanted to.

For lack of a better term, play with us. It's what I felt was happening.

freaking thing up the heel and had no fear. All I wanted to do was get closer and see it again. There was no fear. This thing could have easily ripped any of us apart, but it didn't, so there may be something to it. I'm curious about this family group that you're dealing with. Are there other experiences that you've had with them. Have you guys tried gifting or other

kind of interactions. What are you guys getting outside of the vocalizations and some of the other things you've already described.

I found out that they have a taste of peanut butter whatever, So I figured, what about a reces. It's got peanut butter in it, and it's got bright orange pack wrapper you can see it. So I put it at the one spot, I put it over here, and I go back. Before Marie started going back there with me, they slowed down a little bit instantly when there was another person with me other than my son, But when it was just me going in there were times I had walked in these trails. I told you there's only

two trails to get in. I go walk in those trails and there'd be no footprints. I go to leave and there'd be three or four that came in behind me. You will tell about something giving you goosebumps, And it's the same one. This guy, I call him big Toe. It's only about a thirteen and a half inch footprint. See what I'm showing you right now. Yeah, just as one big toe sticks up, it's like he lifts his toes. It's weird. The day I found this print right here,

Actually Marie was with me that day. We went in there and it was just about dark and I made the casting of that and it was two dark, so I said, I'm just going to leave it, come back in the morning and check it. Came back to the next morning and that second print was right next to it. He had stood over it, right there, looking at what I was doing, and left another footprint. The same guy. I think he's a teenage male, is what I'm guessing, because of the width and the size of his foot.

It's like thirteen, but it's like almost five ye at the heel.

six inches. I have a video where the Kalin's with me and we went back to go check on the castings from another time that we had made some casts and came back that day, and there was probably twenty more footprints back there, all through one passing area where they just came in there, and everywhere that me and the group had went, there were footprints where they had followed it and come behind us and followed our path where we were walking around. I called it the living

room for a reason. I swear it's right in the middle of their living room, and like they stay here, they venture out from that spot. I swear that's where their spot is. Though the whole rest of the place looks like it'll get about two foot of water back there at times, but it's always dry. In certain areas. You get out towards the swamp part a little bit, it'll get about two foot deep, but there's logs that are giant logs set up like a boardwalk around the

entire place. There's trees all over the place, leaning like this in between a perfect y where if you were to crawl that tree and look, you could see people in the neighborhood. There's a neighborhood not that far away from it too. That's the other thing. There's a neighborhood that runs right by this place. The only thing separating the neighborhood in the conservation area is the creek. If they're curious though, how perfect is that they could sit there,

watch kids, watch people and never get messed with. I've always been curious to know, like there's people out there, what kind of sounds and different things to hear back there people who live on the creek, because I know there's a lot of them. So the gifting area was very successful for a long time. We're still doing it now. It's just starting to get good again. We put cameras out and try to get what was what it was on camera and they didn't like.

We had lots of pictures go off, deer, hogs, everything. Nothing right in the middle. About thirty ft forty feet away from the gifting spot, the fence that ran across there is bent down to the ground like someone stepped on it. The barb wires bent down in every section all the way down. Marie did a video on it. It's on our page, and it looked like another one stepped on it here and bent like something said on it. You know how hard that galvanized pipe is. It bends

it down to the ground like it was nothing. Everything brought down and the deer had started coming through there as a trail. Now they made that so they can get back and get the freaking gifting stuff and not be caught on camera. So I finally convinced her to take the cameras down. I'm like I don't want to mirror no more. Let's tick them down. Let's get back to having them do their cool things again.

seven different types within the species. There's all kinds of theories out there, and people in the Bigfoot community tend to believe or think that for some reason, and it's probably some of the evidence, honestly that's come out of Florida that skunk ape is a different beast altogether or is definitely different than what you're going to see in the Pacific Northwest as far as Sasquatch is concerned. But some of the things you've talked about experiences, we're talking

seven eight nine feet tall. These don't seem to be smaller than what they are in other areas. But what is your theory, and obviously this is subjective, nobody really knows, But what is your theory on what's going on specifically in Florida? Do you think they're the same Sasquatch as other places in the country, even maybe other places like Canada, or do you think there's something special going on in Florida and what you guys are experiencing.

like similar to the ones we have up here. But Dave's also found footprints like I've never seen before in my life. He's got some funky four toad prints and they are weird. I know that whatever they are down there, they don't make the structures like they do up north. From the sightings, from everything that's going on, I think there are at least two different kinds. I think they're

like us in a way. We're all different types from everywhere, just like you get different people around the country, around the world, the same thing. I think with them, I think they're just different species of them. I think the only difference with the actual sasquatch versus a skunk ape is that I think their intelligence level. I think the skunk ape might be a little more primitive, whatever it is, and maybe it didn't develop as well or something, I

don't know, a little more primitive. I don't think there's any difference if anything else around the United States or anywhere in the world, except they might be thinner, because everything in Florida is a little thinner, and we're in the South. Everything doesn't weigh as much, and you get reports it's more bodybuilder looking guys, guys that look like they could to the genimalmst. You took all that mass and hair off of some of the wolves and cougars.

Look at a Florida panther, Florida pants or litter or deer. We're a lot thinner. I think that's what it is. I think it's just a thinner, more adapted version. But you got to be lean. You can't live in our swamps. Oh, I'll have a bunch of body fat. That's what I really think. It's a big difference between intelligence and body mass, not height.

I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing your fancies. Man, I had a good time talking to you.