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I'm about to be done with Part two. Got just about every single important piece of evidence, audio, video, interactions for the whole nine yards, pretty much everything basically over the past two years. If I can go back the beginning, my entire situation was just sasquatch one oh one. It started out I didn't know anything about them at all.

My neighbors started getting harassed at night over a period of probably almost a year, and then finally I'm the one running around in woods trying to figure this thing out, come to fight out. It's sasquad, So I get obsessed with it. About a year after that, I have a sighting. Then I just keep getting more and more eavy. But in twenty three it all changed. It went from ninety nine percent of the time I spent sitting on my front deck waiting for something to happen. Then it would happen.

I would respond and hopefully get a vocal or a break or whatever. And it went on like that for years. Nine times out of ten when I went to the woods behind my house, I'd hardly ever have anything happen. Then I broke the cardinal rule that I held off on doing for years, started gifting, started putting eggs out, And I tell you right now, I wish I would have done that from the beginning. The key point to this is I don't even think they're eating the egg.

I think they're smart enough to recognize that I'm just leaving things in their area. It basically started in twenty twenty three. After leaving the egg sometimes vegetables got a garden, I'd leave that out there. But there's a hill that I consider their hill. I went out there one night just checking on things that I left. I got done. I walked down to the bottom of the hill. I went across the creek. There was a either a wood knock or a break coming from light behind where I

was just at where the eggs. So I walk up the hill to this clearing and I do a wood knock, which I never do. I don't ever do would because I'm on the edge of a wildlife management There are a neighborhood line the area like my house, so I've never done would. I did a wood knock and there was an object that was thrown. I did another wood knock and there was another object for on again, which I've never had that app where it seemed like I

did something and then they respond. I went out the next night, either the next night or the night after that, I went out there, started out with a wood knock again. They came to the area. They did breaks through object and it sounded like one got very close behind me, ran up behind me. Now I'm out there with no flashlight. I use a kim light going back and forth in the equipment I used because at first I was scared to take too much out there with me. I would

just use a GoPro my cell phone. Then eventually I incorporated the thermal end of the story is about five or six different evenings in fall of twenty twenty three, from September October November. I would go down to that spot, I would do would knock, and they would come in between five to fifteen minutes later, and then do these interactions. I've got some of the craziest breaks you've ever heard,

breaking trees, and then you hear the running off. I don't even know how to describe going from five years of just petty stuff, just getting lucky basically, and then getting it to that point September October November. It ended I didn't have anything happened throughout the winter, and had a little bit happened during the spring, and then twenty twenty four it started up again around the same exact time. I think in two months I had seven different night

of activity like that. Eventually I worked in the night vision camera. We got it set up behind me. The whole first year is nothing but pretty much audio and then a little bit of video where you can see a glow stick and that's about all the light because I don't use any flashlights. But I finally got to the point where I could feel confident about because I would bring that night vision camera out the wavelength of

the IR. You can see the light. You got a big red light on the side of the camera, and I would bring it out there and nothing would happen. That would happen over and over again. There'd be nice for a thermal out there. Something would start to happen, and then I put the thermal up to my face and then everything would just quit. So I just kept going back and forth trying to figure out what equipment

I was allowed to have basically according to them. But last year there's about I think five of those nights. You've got the camera set up behind me. You can see my reactions. I've got all the audio. God bro that I wear something for my cell phone. One of the last things that happened last year is on my way out, I wasn't even going out actually going out there to make a video channel. So I was in a hurry and I heard what sounded like an armadillo rooting around on the side of my yard near the

chicken pin. I'm going out there and I catch this part something running off and it looks like this gray It's about the size of the body of a German shepherd or a mid sized dog. Now I didn't get a great look at it, but I definitely couldn't recognize what I was seeing. That looked like a long oar and then gray hair. I kept on going to my

sitting spot. What made me think that this was probably a juvenile is after all those nights, I never felt like there was any animosity behind the objects being thrown. I had two different nights where they got very close. One night they probably twenty five feet behind and did an intentional break and then you can hear the running off in the audio, But it just seemed like they

were playing. That night kind of seemed like I ticked them off, because finally, after going out having all this activity, I got three different objects that are one you can actually see, but I've got two different objects that are thrown right over my head. One almost distant camera comes right down by my head and then the third one comes bouncing in. You actually see it on the camera on the night vision camera. It bounces in, and I was a little concerned that maybe I overstepped, that maybe

that was a juvenile and they didn't like that. Think what happened if it was them. I went out my front gate instead of my back gate. I didn't going out the back gate. But I think what was going on is that Armadilla was making so much noise and I came up so quick that maybe they weren't expecting me. But I don't think they liked it, because the throws got closed. But this year, the dogs were going nuts.

And that's how it always starts. Like ninety nine percent of the time, my dogs will start going nuts, and then in the neighborhood the dogs start going nuts. It may do that for a couple of days before I actually have that. But I was having that happen and I was shooting the docu series. I needed some b footage of me driving up my driveway, so I left my phone out there recording would record me pulling up. The whole process took winning minute, and I brought it

back inside. I happened to think well, I left that phone out there fifteen minutes by itself. I better check it lo and behold, there's sounds of rock throwing. So the second night, I set that night vision camera up in the same spot and pretended to do the same thing. I actually had to trash can from the end of the road, which is like a quarter of a mile a long, so I set it up in that same spot.

I went out, got my trash can, took my time, came back, went inside, and there's two different times where Gamera catches very obvious eyeshine, like across my driveway in the woodline right in front of it, and then very obvious rock throw it. And that's pretty much spend the last thing that's happened around here to be able to go down to that sitting spot. I was telling Brian earlier, I would not be surprised if this went to the point to where they actually try to touch me while

I'm sitting out there. My whole goal is to be out there in the dark. It took me several nights of this going out there to get the courage to actually sit on my butt. I've experienced some scary things before, but me trying to work up the courage to sit on my butt when I know they're out there. It

took a lot. It took a whole lot. The only thing that makes me think that this wasn't like a territorial thing from the beginning is that first year in twenty twenty three, I think I had two or three nights of me going back there and having that act. It was rolling around in my head. What if they're being aggressive, then they're trying to run me out? Didn't feel like it. I'm a human being. Maybe I'm just putting my own spin on. I think I'm making progress

with these creatures and we getting a little bit of trust. Meanwhile, they won't be gone for all I know. I didn't go out there for about a week, and then my father came into town and we're sitting on my front foor. There was a throw that landed and hit and I hadn't talked that much to my father. I had mentioned what I was doing with bigfoot and everything. I looked at it and I said, you're about to find out

what are you talking about? So I think that was them, And here's them with the bigfoot I've been telling you about. And he said as long as they don't hit my truck. He just got up and went inside. Well, I just walked straight over to the side of my yard. I think I threw two rocks, and then they threw a rock, and then I threw another object, and they did a very loud, obvious break. So it was kind of like

I hadn't been down there in a while. It's almost like they came and got because that was pretty much where in my head I was getting permission. I guess you could say that's pretty much it. That's where we're at with everything.

Farewell could have been that situation. There's armadillos out here, although they could be eating them.

o't to see. We'll be right back after.

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has at it. It's a wild recording, and it's as clear as you get. There's sometimes there can be audio. This misidentification, this is not that. There's just no way around them. Then, after about two and a half years, I started getting the interactions that felt like they were juveniles. Then I had a situation where I had what I

think is too sounded like juveniles. I didn't see them, but they mimicked an owl, and then when I did it back them, they were like two excited kids did it right back to me, and it was like the crappiest imitation of an owl ever, Like they were imitating my crappy imitation of their imitation is what it sounded like. Then we found juvenile track. I got a thermal that's not good enough to really tell back. Then I've got a good image of what I think is a juvenile now.

I think every bit of this, starting from when they were basically harassing my neighbors to the semi territorial way they were interacting with me, I think that every bit it was a tat. For whatever reason, I think they wanted to stay in and around this area. Sounds like something humans would do. You would test the people in your area to figure out what kind of reactions you were going to get. That's what it felt like to me. And then eventually that changed, but seemed more like curiosity.

And then it might just be a quistence. Maybe the gifting had nothing to do with it, but for whatever reason they decided they wanted to start interacting when I was back there, I'll never know. It's all ninety aur percent of this is guess work. I know a lot of people think that these creatures are danger. They very well could. They could be snatching a thousand people a year. But all I know to do is go based upon what I know, what I've experienced here on my own problem.

But I don't live way out hot water, so I would imagine the temperament and what they can get away with is probably different there as opposed to hear the whole gifting thing the way I looked at that, which, like I said, you hear all the time, don't get stop gifting. They'll get mad, be belligerent, get violent. And I thought that was a good rule of thumb for a while, and then I happen to think, wait a second.

The reason why we haven't proved these things exist yet because we can't tell where they're going to be, when they're going to be there, and what they're going to do. But you're telling me that I could do this particular thing and know pretty much all of them and be ready because if they're going to be violent or belligerent, that's something I'm going to be able to record. But

that's not getting recorded. That's not what happened. I started doing it, and like I said, I don't even know that they're actually taking.

ground up sunflower seeds. I would put some jars of that out, and they've taken several of them out of a stump that they would have to have had, in my opinion, a hand very similar to ours. It was a hollowed out sixteen eighteen inch round cedar stump. The middle is ritted out, and I would stick the jars down in there. So I don't even know how a raccoon or anything else would be able to take it. But I've never really put a ton of stock in the gifting. But I have talked to so many people

that have had success. I'm using my air quotes for everybody who can't see success with gifting. I have evolved just over the last couple of years to think there's a there. Richard, let me pull you into this conversation. You do a ton of boots on the ground research down there in Florida. Are you using or have you tried to do gifting? Are you aware of anybody down in Florida that's doing gifting and had any kind of measure of success at it.

didn't come back for a week or two. Of course the apple was gone, like you, I don't whole lot of credence to it, because any animal can walk over and take an apple. But there was a golf ball left on the side of the stump, but the apple was on the top. But on the side of the stump there was a golf ball. No, I don't know where it came from. But other than that, I don't gift now. I do know researchers down here that are gifting, but not just really gifting as much as laying items

out or view to see if they're campered with. If the colors have changed. You had read now it's blue red, blue, red, Now I've seen some success in that, not just from the local groups that I deal with here and what they're posting, but also Christopher Noel was big on that. For the autistic thing about lining things up and having

an order is very interesting to me. Johnny's in a very unique, fascinating place where he can just walk outside and he's in the midst of what's going on where I have to travel and with my work schedule, I don't know if I can get back in enough time to actually see progress made or make it a regular basis where I can build that relationship with him like he does, especially this year. I saw you in April.

I've gotten out two times, maybe three times in five months because my work schedule has just been so unbelievably hectic. Now everything's normal, I'm going out. I went out last week, going out this week. But as far as habituating them, I'm not going to do that. I can only handle so much at any given time.

it seems like there is something to the gifting. I'm glad you brought up Christopher Nowell.

there I still have the rock. It almost was like a Native American skinning rock, and it's just sitting up there just as obvious as can be. I kept it. Obviously I still have it today. And then there was another situation where I didn't think anything about it when I first walked up on it, but I was out there putting eggs out there another time. I may have already talked about it. Last time, I found half of the squirrel, the bottom half of a squirrel. I'm like, man,

that's weird. I thought maybe I probably just spook something that was out here munching on this squirrel. It was weird that it seemed like it. I didn't do an autopsy on it, but it looked like it was cut in half. But there wasn't a bunch of blood and guts everywhere. It was just the bottom half of a squirrel. The next day, my wife calls me and tells me that there is a dead squirrel behind my chicken coop. So I get home and I go back there. In about ten feet away from the back of my chicken coop,

there's another squirrel. But this one was just as christine as can be. It's dead, but like it just fell asleep right there. There was nothing wrong with it that I because the fact that there is unless I see one of them leave me something. It's just a guess. I don't know that for sure. I'm just guessing it's

contact squeak. That's all I'm working with. But when I go out there and there's half a squirrel in the area where I'm leaving egg, and then I don't take it, and then the next day behind my chicken coop there's a brand new squirrel laying there. Squirrels do die. Things eat squirrels. But it just seemed like too much of wincidence. You see where my head's going. We're making progress because I never really had much of that app But it's basically a hit and run or a drive by, about ninety

nine opportunities. When it all started changing, when I started going back there and doing that, I guess I can go one hundred different ways, but that's where we're at right now.

miles away, three miles away, going batshit crazy. I have heard some weird vocalizations. When I started sharing some of the things that were happening on the property earlier on Doug Hicheck's a good friend of mine. Doug would call me up and say, Hey, I heard you talking about this on the show. Has anything slapped your house? Any

dead animals? Because he's talked to so many people, documented so many encounters experiences with these things where they're leaving people quote unquote gifts of rabbits torn in half, squirrels torn in half. We haven't experienced that, but we have had the dogs that are barking in the area. It seems to coincide with some of the vocalizations and some of the other activity that we've had on our property. Is it completely separate. Maybe they're barking at another dog.

Is that possible? Sure, But if you live in an area long enough, and we've been out here full time about five years on the property, you see these patterns and you become aware as far as the dog relation with this possible activity. I've documented tons of experiences with people claiming that their dogs have been killed by these creatures. One comes to mind from Louisiana. I interviewed a guy probably four years ago, who had one of their hunting dogs killed and thrown out of the woods at them

on a hunt. I'm a dog lover. I love dogs more than I love people. That kind of shit really bothers me to I want to talk a little bit about something else you mentioned earlier, Johnny, As you said maybe the next step in your progression may be one of these things coming up and touching you. I'm not so sure. I'm okay with that. I've been within nine or ten feet of one of these things last year when I was out of the Pacific Northwest, when I had my couple of encounters.

the course of those seven days. We went on a night height. I'm gonna tell you, I'm not afraid of a lot. I've been in some shit. I've been shot at, I've been in some situations that I wouldn't wish anybody in. And I was scared shitless. I was shaking, I was nervous. We had no flashlights, we had no light at all. You couldn't see the hand in front of your face. We were literally having to walk with hands on shoulders

down this trail to get to this area. It was the hardest thing I have ever done in my life, was to sit right on my ass in the middle of the woods and BC Canada, with what I believe to be a sasquatch twenty yards away from us in the woods knocking on a tree. I can totally relate to that. Having said that, having that experience last year where I was ten feet away from this thing and I chased it up a heel, I was going to try to catch this thing. Dumbest shit I've ever done

in my life. There was no way I was ever going to get any closer than I already was for this thing to let me see it. But I had no fear at that point. So I have had a hard time wrapping my brain around why was I so afraid in Canada to sit down and just be when this thing was doing wood knocks. But yet I'm nine or ten feet away from this thing, can almost physically

touch it, and I chase it up a heel. I know this is a long segue into getting there, but I'm talking a little bit about the flesh and blood versus the woo part of this, because the other weird shit that happened in in Washington State last year was we saw eye glow, not eyeshine, self illuminating white eyes. I was ten feet away from these things when this happened, two sets of and then when they disappeared, I think they dropped down to the ground. I can't prove that

that's what I felt. They were bobbing and weaving, and then they disappeared, and I felt like they went down to the ground when that happened. When they disappeared, we threw our lights on up the trail where these things were standing, and we saw this thing crossed across the trail ten feet in front of me. Glowing eyes makes no sense physiologically, human beings don't even have eye shine. We don't have a to pay them loose of them to have eye shine if somebody shines a light in

our face. I've talked about this tons of times since that experience, in order for that to happen, if these things are very similar to us, and I think they are, that's just my opinion. I think there's some sort of a great ape, there's somewhere on our she family tree that would be unique for them to a have something that would even have eyeshine. But then you go beyond that, and this was self illuminating white eye glow. I want to go one at a time here. I'll start with

Richard and then I'll move to Johnny. Are these creatures flesh and blood? Is there more to them? Are they flesh and blood with some of these other abilities? Because I'll be honest with you, I used to think people were completely full of shit when they talked about glowing eyes until I saw it for myself, and I can no longer doubt that. Let's start with Richard. Where are you on interesting high strangeness kind of experiences with them?

And do you think they're flesh and blood and they have some sort of ability to maybe do those things? And stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll be right back after these messages.

it really opened my eye. I'm pro that it does happen. I am because of that interview, and that's a great thing about being a podcast. When you're talking to all these other people, it does open you up to some other horizons that makes you think. I believe it's natural for them. It's not paranormal supernatural. I think they're able to take very little ambient light. It can be just the moon, or it could be just the stars. We correlate eyeshine with flashlights. Got to have a headlights on

it to see the eyeshine. According to his theory and what he's learned, there's an ability. He mentions other animals to have this ability. It takes very little ambient light that they can now refocus on the backside of their eye, basically giving them night vision, which really pertains to night vision in general. Night vision has to have some level

of ambient light to be better. It has to receive an to project information so you see what's in front of you, not like a thermal but night vision needs that light going out to come back. And I think that's basically when I break it down to Layman's term, so I better understand it. It's kind of like night

vision classes. They're taking very little ambient light in the wood or at nighttime, and I think they're able to use that to be able to see better and see at night and stuff like that, because I am a true believer they do see at night. They see better than we do, and just as well as all the other animals that see this also at night.

but without an autopsy. Again, if you're not really gonna know the answer to that, when it comes to the possibility that these creatures are eliminal in between, whether they're nephilim or paranormal, supernatural alien, all that stuff. I went through stages myself at the very beginning trying to figure out what I was dealing with well before my wife and I in twenty twelve had a extremely profound spiritual experience. It opened my eyes up to the fact that side

of our reality exists. It was years after that the sasquatch activity happened, or started to happen. It is twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen when that started. When people report seeing orbs and sasquatch activity. The only thing I can say is just because two different phenomenon are in this same area that we don't understand, it does not mean those phenomenon are connected or the same thing. You could have more than one thing going on in there. You're in the

woods with whatever else is in the wood. I think the mass majority of all the different aspects people claim they have abilities, I think a lot of it comes down to their intellect, their speed, their strength. Seem to be self aware. It's almost like if human beings decided, you know what, I don't want to live in cities and towns, and scientifically they could create the perfect body to carry a human brain in to be the ultimate survival machine in the wilderness. That's what these things seem

to be. They seem to have a very high level of intellect, but they are just unbelievably just over the top physically adapt to every kind of environment, like when it comes to structures. I don't think they live instruction. They might. I have heard stories of researchers that found huge ones way out in the middle of nowhere with huge log where there's a lot of snow. That might be a possibility. I don't know, but for the most part,

I don't think they need that. So my long winded answer is I'm leaning towards not paranormal or spiritual whatever. But as a researcher. In our group together, we decided it's from the get go that we were going to report what happened, and that's it didn't matter if it made us uncomfortable. And it's hard as a researcher, it's hard. Sometimes you want to leave things out because you want

people to believe you. But if you leave things out, you might as well be lying, is the way I see it, because you're not giving the full picture of what's going on.

the sightings with my team out in East Georgia. It's really weird how that it's almost like there's three steps ahead of us at all times, no matter what we do, Like the interactions that I have down here at the back of my property, I cannot, for the life of me figure out how when you look at the area, it all goes downhill and it goes into a creek, and I don't exactly know where they're throwing the objects from. When I hear a break and then I turn my

thermal over there. I keep it there for five minutes and don't see It's just gets super annoying. But it feels like something else is going on. And then I think about the intellect, think about how fast they are, think about they can move at will and be almost completely silent if they want to be. At this point, it's almost I feel like I'm hunting you, trying to prove the X men exist. They just out Matt out classes you know.

theory of Bigfoot being a possible telepathic savant. But I've infamously talked about multiple times on the show since I got turned on to I don't know who I interviewed. It might have been Chris, it might have been somebody else that told me about the he tapes. It's a podcast done by Kai Dickinson. It has nothing to do with big but it's all about these autistic children that are nonverbal or limitedly verbal in their communication, who have

telepathic communication connections with their families, teachers, caregivers. Hands Down. You can listen to the first season of the podcast if you get past episode three or four and you don't believe in telepathy, I think you're a bad shit crazy. It's proven, there's a PhD doing these studies. These kids have a telepathic communication with these people.

have done tons of research. I've got three books right here in my house by very well known PhDs that have looked into the telepathic communication that humans have with their dogs. Is it outside the realm of the possibility for you, as a sasquatch researcher that albeit, maybe some of these people that are talking about sasquatch talking in their head, maybe that shit crazy, But is it possible for you as a researcher that there is maybe that

possibility that some of that stuff could be real. I believe me and you, Brian, have had a discussion on this and it passed about mind speak. Here's where I stand on it, and let's step back for a moment with Christopher Noel when I brought that up. Is his autism parallel with sasquatch is very intriguing theory because we're talking about behavior.

to me. But as far as when we delve into the mind speak, I think people it's easier to read behavior than it is anything else. I can look at you like this and you're like, Okay, something's irritating rig But I didn't say a word, and I didn't put it in your mind. It's just how I portraying myself.

So like dogs, you're very tight with your animals. So if they're acting a certain way, something's wrong, or they're not feeling well or something, they're not mind speaking, but it's their behavior that you have learned with your relationship with your dog, same with a spouse, you learn that physical behavior. I've always had this question. I brought this up with Ron Morehead because he's big on a mind

speak thing. He brought up birds. He said, when birds are flying and then they all change direction at the same time, he thinks there's some level of mind speak where they all know when they're doing this and this, And I'm like, okay, let's say that's correct. That's interspecies. Now we're talking a gorilla talking to a dog or a dog talking to a chimpanzee or a champanzee talking to a giraffe. I don't think they'd have that relationship

because they're not the same species. I can understand human behavior better then I can understand another animal's behavior. You dream in the language that you know, Okay, when you go to bed at night, you dream. You don't dream in German. You don't dream in French, you don't dream in Chinese. You dream in English. The people in your dreams are talking in English. When you have thoughts in your head at work, it's in English. It's just my theory.

If sasquatch mind spoke, would I even understand what he's saying? Or would he even understand what I'm thinking? Now? He may understand emotion or body behavior, may see me as a threat, maybe see me as non threat, But as far as communicating with me in a manner that I would understand what he is trying to tell me, I just don't think that's possible when there is a huge mental and vocal vocabulary barrier between us. I'm not a big fan of mind speak. Again, human minds are extremely complex.

My mind has done it, Your mind has done it. Where it has told you. It's made you feel fearful when you shouldn't be fearful. It's made you feel anxiety when there's no reason. The mind does crazy things to you. I spend a lot of time in the woods by myself, and I've done it live when I do my videos, where I'll stop and I'll tell the camera I'm not feeling comfortable right now. I feel a little smoop. I think I should leave this.

accomplish so much more. Now fear is not the obstacle anymore. I still have not reached that point where I'm in the woods that once I get food, I really don't want to take five more steps. I want to turn around and go into an area. And it's happened to me, and it's happened to me with somebody where we're walking, and we both looked at each other at the same time, going, dude, I don't feel comfortable, and they're like, dude, I feel it, dude.

We turn around and walk fifty yards the opposite direction. We feel great, we feel wonderful. But I didn't hear voices in my head telling me get out. Like I said, I can't get past the vocabulary human language, bigfoot language, because I do believe they have a language. I do believe they do communicate with each other. I don't believe they communicate with us other than grunt oulse, screams, gibberish, stuff like that. That's all real. That's all stuff that

has been documented. We know they do these things. I'm a forensic guy. I like the forensic. What I can touch, smell, here, taste, whatever. That's what I'm focused on. I can't focus on supernatural because I can't prove it. I can't measure it, I can't document it. In ninety nine, percent of the people that give it the supernatural part really don't have receipt to back it up other than the story that they're telling. Where we have casting, we have hair, we have DNA,

we have SCAT, we have structures. There's so much forensic evidence, and that's what I focus on. So to me, mind speak doesn't exist. I just think it either you know that sixth cens inside of you or it's just your

mind making you think. Okay. It's like in my encounter that we went over that one time when I was leaving the woods, these things were behind me and I was scared, and somebody had mentioned this to me on one of the shows that I was doing that when I was walking out, in my mind kept saying, don't turn around, don't turn around, don't look at them, don't run, just keep going. They're like, oh, they were in mind speaking to you. They were telling you, don't turn around,

don't try. No, it was me. It was in English. In my head. It was me trying to calm myself down to get out of there safely. Somebody might have said I was mind spoke to It told me to get out of the woods. It told me to keep walking and don't run it, don't turn around. But with me, I knew it was me. It was me calming myself down. And sure, like you being in law enforcement, I'm sure you've been in that situation where you're talking in your head, going through the steps that you need to go through

to handle the situation that you're about to enter. But I don't believe it's mind speak. Johnny.

me the story. I called bullshit, like, no, that didn't happen. It's just over five. And then I talked to Happy myself and I'm like, yeah, this guy's telling the truth, which had really changed everything because it was absolutely perfect property. Now you've got the story where these things have possibly made physical contact with him. The third trip we went out there, all three of us had our sightings that day. If I would have followed my initial instinct with happy,

I never would have had my sighting. I learned that just because you don't initially believe something, probably need to keep open. That changed a lot for me back then. I've seen the teleptic. We're working in a realm that's all dependent on evidence. That's what we're trying to get us evidence. When when somebody says, hey, here's evidence of telepathy, there's evidence of telepy. I don't know if it's going on or not. Like everything else, I try to withhold

judgment until I experience it myself. I try to keep an open mind until something changed.

and Richard, we have our podcast. You want to tell them about our podcast?

Johnny saying, hey, I want to do a podcast. That's I responded, yeah. So once I got off that show, it was really funny because the guy that was interviewing me called me and said, hey, you did an outstanding job. You're funny. You want to be my co host? Like, dude, if you had asked twenty minutes ago, I would have said yes, But I said, Johnny beat you to it. Me and Johnny came together, we created this podcast. It's about getting to the truth. We want the truth. Johnny's

geared towards encounters. He wants to hear the encounters and what they experience. Those are all great things. I love hearing those stories. And sometimes I'm sitting there watching the show like I'm in the audience. I'm just listening so intently on what these people have to say. Then I'm

more geared towards the research side. I want to hear who's sticking outside the box and who's doing this and who's doing that, and what are we doing different Like the saying you used to use all the time, Brian, is who's moving the ball forward? And what are we doing differently than other people? What's working and what's not working. So I'm really geared towards that. So on our show,

we have the variety. We have people telling their encounters, we have researchers, come on, we have the people that have been doing this way longer than we have people like Codny's and it's been around the slope doing this. It's just a lot of fun. It's a lot of work. There's a lot of work. I'm constantly keeping busies trying to get the channel to grow. So we came together and we created Sasquatch Redacted podcast having a lot of fun with Sasquatch unredacted. A lot of fun. That's awesome.