SO EP:525 Terror At Jack Rabbit Hills!

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let's go check out all this hype about Alaska. It took some time to plan because it's not cheap getting out in the wilds of Alaska, especially with what they were planning on doing, because it required flying in and bush piloting. They get it all down where they end up. I'll try to throw a screenshot of the area. It would be to the northwestern part of Lake Nerka, a

place called Rainbow Basin. They initially thought they had reservations for the cabin at Joe Creek at Ott Bay there in Lake Nerka, but it didn't pan out, something to do with the website. They make it over. They pick a beautiful spot, lots of rocks, gravelly, not a whole lot of dirt, mossy, spongy, standard Alaska stuff, especially for the wood Tick Chick State Park area. They get back into the spot, they set up. They have triple arms, right,

they have several triple arms. They were used these triple arms to warn the encroaching bear. They did all their safety stuff. They get their camp set up. This particular spot where they chose to camp was at the bottom of a wash, all gravel. It looked like it was basically for spring runoff. After that, maybe a little bit of trickle from rain, but it looked like a wash that they could camp on have an open area not being closed by all the vegetation. So they set up

their blackout tent. They had a big, old two room blackout tent, which a blackout tent is just basically landed the midnight sun. You don't use a blackout tent or a dark tarp over year tent, it's gonna seem daylight twenty four to seven certain time of year, and it was towards the end of July. They had five to six hours of nighttime. At that point it's still light, so they get it set up the first couple of nights.

Their triple arm was about a fifty foot circle, right, and they used fine fish line, you know that kind of thing, just to if a bear comes in, it'll pal shoot off a twelve gage round and wake everyone up and hopefully scare off the predator. Billy's buddy. We'll just name him Chuck, all right. Chuck was the most avid outdoorsman of the other three that he took with them. Well, named Dennis and Maria as the other two, so he got Billy Chuck. Dennis and Maria are the couple. Chuck

be an outdoorsy guy. He decided after the first couple nights he had heard some weird grunting off in the distance. He wanted a little wider perimeter, to be a little more ready, because he said it sounded large. Whatever it was. Dennis and Maria they would sneak away and go by themselves, of course armed, but he would go armed with Maria and they would go nature walks, look around at the scenery together as a couple and get away from just the guys. On the third day they were out on

just such an excursion. They got up just as the sun was coming up over the mountains beautiful. As they were walking along the same path they had the day before, they noticed that some of the blackberries and stuff were starting to form. They weren't nowhere near ready, but they were just checking out the berries. As they're doing so,

they kept hearing a very sharp whistle from somewhere. It sounded like it was all around them at once, according to what they said now after the third or fourth whistle, because at first it was sporadic. The first couple were random and not very close together, and the last two to three were fairly close in succession. They didn't sound that far away, so they got a little creeped out by that retreated back to camp. They were one hundred

and fifty yards from camp something like that. As they were continuing back to camp, they continued to hear that whistle as though it was just near them, real sharp, real crisp. But they couldn't hear anything else. There was no sound of movement in the brush. And trust me, that time of year there's a lot of brush, all their willows, scrub brush. You know, you got fire weeds, you got all sorts of stuff. It was a bunch of vegetation. So they couldn't really see anything. They heard

the whistles, though, very sharp, very crisp. They get back to camp, Chuck and Billy happened to be at camp. They were working on the trip perimeters while they were gone on their little walk. Chuck and Billy, from what Billy said, no sooner than Dennis and Maria were out of view, they were hearing a grunt. This grunt, he said, was so low you could almost not hear it. It was almost below the perception of sound. They were both feeling it when they were sitting by their campfire in

their chairs, just sipping on coffee. They said they were feeling it in the framework of their little fold out chairs. They're feeling this low, grumbling growl sound creeped them out, so they yell out, hey bear, bear, bear, Hey bear bear. Now, remember Billy and Maria are on their little excursion at this time, so they both get up. They're armed. They're both walking around with their rifles, looking and saying, hey bear, bear,

Hey bear. We're here bear, waiting for the bear to leave or to come in one of the two, because they felt that this grumbling, growling sound was so close it had to have been damn there on top of them. Not a sound. Once they got up and started calling out, all sounds stopped. It was dead quiet. He said, he doesn't even remember the mosquitos buzzing at this point. They were creeped out by that. So they're setting up a wider perimeter with more of these little trip alarms. Tennis

Maria get back. They're like, hey, we heard this weird whistle. It followed us almost all the way back here, and then they exchanged stories about what's going on. They all thought it was super weird. So they decided, let's try to figure this out, stay close to camp and all together before any other excursions out. But two by two or whatever, let's figure this out because if it's a

large bear, it could overwhelm two of us. So they decided to close the ranks, set up that perimeter, get everything nice and tidy because they had not been sleeping the best. They decided I did. Towards the midday, they were going to try to lay down for a nap. There was some weather moving in. It was looking like it was threatening to rain. It cooled off. They decided they're going to rejuvenate start again once we get up, so they going and they lay down. The clouds rolled in.

It got drizzly, but they weren't too socked in. They could still see all the mountains, so the clouds hadn't come down. Chuck and Billy were on one half of this tent. It was a two room tent. Billy and Marie had the back portion. There was entrances on both sides and the divider in between that could be taken out. Billy and Chuck were discussing that weird grumbling. Meanwhile, Dennis and Maria they were talking about the whistling. So they're

having simultaneous conversations about the same time of weirdness. Right, they all start laughing because they hear each other talking and they're like, Okay, we're getting really worked up. And they couldn't figure out why they were so scared. They didn't see anything. They just heard these noises, but they felt the They felt unnatural, fear, unwarranted. There was nothing to be so scared about that they were aware of. At this point, they chuck the laugh and they open

up the divider and they're hanging out. They're all sitting going to circle on the floor at this point, just talking about whatever. As they're doing so, something starts hitting the tent don't and they sounded like little rocks hitting the tent. So they're like, what the hell is it starting to rain? They thought maybe hal was starting to come because of the clouds moving in and stuff. It's not far fetched. So they're sitting there. It's not all over.

It's just one side of the tent that keeps getting hit by this rock. So they decide okay, because of Dennis and Maria's entryway on their side of the tent, someone could go out that entryway, obscuring them, leaving the tent from whatever's throwing these rocks. They wanted to see what was going on. Chuck, being the bravest of the bunch, according to Billy, grabs, his shotgun, goes out their portion of the exit, goes around, comes back to the backside,

and starts peeking around the tent. As he's doing so, he could still hear the rocks hitting the tent, and he can hear some wishing of the brush on the opposite side of their camp, their camping area, so it's like, what the hell, So he jumps out with the shotgun real quick and yells, hey, stop throwing rocks. He thought maybe locals had followed him. They're having some fun or something. He didn't know. So as he jumps out and yells this, all of a sudden, he sees dark brown in the

brush move away. As it's moving away, it had to have hit one of those chip things because bam, the round went off. So this thing all he saw was some barren in the brush. Trips to one of their little shotgun proximity alerts, all of a sudden, sounds like a freight train just boom, barreling away heading back towards Lake Nrka proper just tears off, So immediately he's shook. He didn't know what that was, and heard the trip

alarm and figured, okay, that's one big fricking bear. That is one huge bear because all the noise it made. Everyone else came out armed, of course, trying to figure out and they can all listen to this thing move away as they're doing. So a couple moments pass, things are calming down, they're like that was one big bear. So they decided, let's go reset that triple arm, readjust it, make sure all the other ones are up and ready to function. So they go over Billy and Chuck. They

go over. Chuck is standing guard. They're looking for signs of this thing that was in the brush, and they saw nothing. They saw a couple of broken limbs and some disrupted vegetation, but nothing definitive. Again, they're not like gravelly mossy stuff, so there wasn't really any impressions to be spoken of at this point. So they reset it. They make sure all the other lines, their little trip bires, are all set and good. Then they retreat back to

the campground. Now they had to go into the vegetation a little ways. While they were in the vegetation, Dennis and Maria we're hearing the whistling again. It was at a distance, but they were hearing that same crisp, sharp whistle. So Billy and Chuck get back over to the camping area. They're like, listen and as they're being quiet, not a sound, and all of a sudden, from behind the tent, they hear that sharp whistle. They all turn. They're about twenty

five feet from the tent. At this point, they all turn around look in that direction. Something big and brown just goes out of their view. It was like they turned just a moment too late just to catch something brown moving back off into the alder willows right. So immediately guns are up and they're yelling, hey bear, hey bear. Chuck be an outdoorsy guy tells them all bears don't whistle. Bears don't whistle. So they're going around the back of

the tent. Dennis is staying with Maria, They're staying put. Billy and Chuck are going around both sides of the tent back to where they saw this brown streak. As they get to the backside, Chuck is saying, hey, bears don't whistle. Dude, I don't know what that is, but bears don't whistle, and they're not that tall in the shrubs. Whatever that is is big. Again, Everyone outside of Chuck who's had the most wilderness experience, they're just like, what

do we do. They're looking at Chuck for guidance, and Billy said they put a lot of pressure on Chuck for answers and he didn't have any, and they felt bad after. But in those moments of terror because they didn't know what the hell was going on. They were relying heavily on Chuck's outdoor knowledge. Movement it goes off, They hear it moving, but they didn't want to follow

because how large it was. He said. The initial brush behind the tent was about five to six foot tall, and then there was taller alders behind that went up to about twelve ish foot tall. He's estimating this thing was almost as tall as a background shrubbery. They saw from what would be halfway up its body move away from them.

the size, the color of it, just the weirdness. They discuss Bigfoot, and they don't have really much. They decide, okay, we'll just play it by ear now. It gets on in the evening and gets into dusk. Once it gets into dusk, everyone is tired there. Adrenaline's been dumping all day. They decide, okay, let's move the tint from where it's at more into the center of this gravelly area instead

of over by those bushes. That way, we'll center it in between our trip circumference where they got the trip lines. So they rearrange everything. They have to shuffle some rocks because it's uneven ground and stuff. And while they're doing that, Dennis and Maria they're standing watch, keeping an eye around. Again. All their focuses in the last place they saw this thing.

Anytime they're doing anything, they're constantly looking back to that point, which is a mistake because obviously they move around as they're doing so, Dennis and Maria are critiquing, oh, you want to pull that leg of the thing out that they're getting the tent squared away or whatever. As they're doing so, a rock hits the tent and it came from behind them. They turn around and about one hundred yards away they're estimating. They've self admitted they're not the

best at distance, but they're guessing. About one hundred yards away, they saw that big, dark brown figure. Now it's silhouetted and looks almost black. They barely make out the brown standing off in the brush almost one hundred yards away. Maria screams, Chuck and Billy stop what they're doing, jump up and look. All of them turn and see this thing standing silhouetted in the brush almost one hundred yards away, give or take again. They self proclaimed they weren't the

best with distance, but they're guessing. Freak out rifles up, starts screaming, hey, we're over here, we're over here. You're not allowed to be here. Just but whatever they were yelling, they're trying to make a bunch of noise. This thing, according to what Billy said, calmly did a one pint eighty and walked off into the brush to where they couldn't see it. It was just obscured by the shadows and gone. So now they're super freaked out. They're like,

that's a freaking bigfoot. We need to do something. They knew they weren't getting out of there immediately. They had three more days before the flight came back in where they were supposed to meet their bush plane at Lake NERCA. Now they knew this, so what they did was, as a group, they all went and gathered firewood as much as they could together. They hand chopped down some beetle killed spruce. They did what they had to do to

get a large amount of firewood. They're tired, They've been all the traveling and stuff, so they're exhausted at this point, according to what Billy was saying, But they were so adrenalized from what was going on they weren't gonna just go to bed, you know what I mean. So they

get the fire going. They're busy chopping away. They're using their little handsaws and stuff, bucking it up into usable pieces, which they could have just slid it in as it burned out, but they were new to it, so they were doing what they felt they had to do to get enough firewood to keep it light around this little open, gravelly kind of area they were in. Now, as they're doing so, Chuck had just got done whacking at the tree with the hatchet that they had basically stuck it

in it and just left it there. It was like, I'm done for now, kind of taking a break. So they all retreat back around to the fire they got going, and now they're set around to where everyone can see over everyone else's shoulders so no one can come up from behind them. At this point, it still wasn't dark get but it was dusk enough to where Dennis breaks out. He had brought along some whiskey, so they start taking

SIPs and passing it around calm the nurse. As they're doing solf, they hear what sounds like a hllacious scream. According to what Billy said, it sounded like it was happening all around them at once. Scream. He said it was really low and really high pitched at the same time. It was so loud they were all putting their hands

over their ears. So as soon as that scream stops, they all jump up right because while the scream's going on, they're hunker down, like what the hell scream stops, they all jump up, turn around, facing opposite ways from each other with the guns to try to figure out what the hell now. Maria just had one of the guys's handguns. She was really freaked out. So Dennis, seeing this, said, come stand by me, give me the handgun because she could have accidentally hurt somebody. She was so freaked out.

She hands him the pistol. He tucks it in his coat pocket. As they're sitting there discussing what's going on. Just on that backside where the tent was. Earlier when they first saw the brown light, they see eye shine from the flames from the fire, not far into that shrub. They just happened to be looking that direction, he said. They were less than forty feet from that when they saw the eye shine way up in the brush. Shreaked him out. Chuck saw it because he heard him talking

and was looking around everywhere noticed it. When they noticed it, came running over beside them, pulled up the shotgun and says, you get out of here. I'm gonna shoot you. Get out of here. I'm gonna shoot. Yet not a noise is made, so he shoots into the air in that direction. The eyes disappear. It was dark. They didn't see any movement, but they couldn't even if there was movement, it was just too dark. There was nothing they could really make out other than the eye shine was gone. So now

everyone's hyper vigilant they're freaked out. They decide, Okay, we're gonna have to do this in shifts. Some of us need to get some sleep too, sleep too, stand guard. Dennis and Maria volunteered to stand guard first, and Chuck and Billy are like, no, you two get some sleep.

quiet most of the night now. From what Billy said, him and Chuck were sipping the whiskey, putting a little bits in their coffee, so they'd take a little sip and put them in the coffee and ship their coffee. They weren't getting drunk, they weren't like chugging it down or anything, but they were just taking SIPs every once in a while, passing it around, trying to lose the edge they were on. They were on the verge of

freaking out. As the morning started coming on, the light was getting brighter off in the distance to the east, it was getting lighter. Everything was still pitch black as far as silhouettes, as far trees are concerned. They started cracking jokes with each other just to relieve some of the stress. And they're saying stupid mama jokes. You know your mama was so fat, she jumped near got stuck. You know, just silly stuff, just to break that stress.

As they're doing this and start laughing, they hear from the direction they all saw the one turn and walk off into the darkness. They heard an imitation of Chuck's laugh, because he had a very unique laugh. They heard an imitation of it from that same direction. Instantly, all laughing stopped. They stay quiet. Dennis hears them, because Dennis didn't fall asleep, but he didn't want to wake Maria up because she had just fallen asleep not too long before and he

wanted her to rest. So he's in the tent listening and speaks out to let him know, hey, what was that. Because he heard the imitation of the laugh, Billy and Chuck laughed the loudest second, and then immediately after that was the imitation laugh, which was identical, very creepy stuff. They say, oh, we don't know whatever things go on. They sit back down, they're looking in that direction. They're on point.

Dennis wakes up Maria, they come out. Billy was still wound up. Chuck went in figured, okay, three sets of eyes, I'm good. He crashes out for a couple hours. He gets up, comes out, it's more daylight. Everyone's calmed down. There's birds chirping and stuff. Now it feels a lot more natural, not so ominous. Everyone calms down. Chuck is up, tells everyone else, hey, you guys look exhausted. Get some sleep. I'll cook us something. I'll keep an eye out. Doings

seem calm. There's birds chirping and stuff. No predators around you. Guys get sleep. They'll retreat in there quickly. They're all dead dog tired. They get some sleep. Chuck cooks a breakfast, still, birds, sound and stuff. He's feeling calm. He's not feeling watched like he had been most of the night. He was just finishing up percolating some coffee for everyone to go with the breakfast he had just made. As he was doing so, he set the coffee little percolating pot, little

aluminum job on a rock next to the fire. No sooner, and he let go of that handle. A little rock from off to his right hand side came and binked, hit that coffee pot and bounced the little pebble bounce back into the fire. Immediately, he stands up and looks at direction in the darkness of the trees. He said, about fifty to sixty yards, just on the opposite side of a little bitty nothing of a stream, little creek king.

This thing was standing there, all dark and silhouetted. He just looked at it and said and yells out, hey, get the hell out of here. I'm gonna shoot you. So he raises the firearm. As soon as he does, he said, this thing. Because it was dark and silhouetted, he couldn't see all the movement, but he noticed that it very rapidly disappeared into the darkness, like super fast, he said. As he was bringing up the gun yelling, it was already motionings and was gone. It's freaked out.

Everyone heard him yelling and stuff. They all come out with the guns and stuff as they do. So Billy, who was the last one coming out, he was looking for where he had set down the other rifle because he left it outside in case Chuck needed another rifle. Chuck said, his land over by the fire Billy's looking for the rifle, and as he's doing so, the rifle was right in front of his face. It just got obscured by some of the stuff he was using to

cook earlier, so he wasn't seeing it initially. At he's rummaging through stuff they're cook wearing stuff, and then sees the butt of it, and just as he reaches the grab the butt of the rifle to pull it out, his shoulder gets hit by a small pan weird out. He turns around and looks behind them where they initially had saw the brown streak from behind the tent before they moved it. There's silhouette standing there. So he grabs a rifle, turns around. This thing gone takes off. They

hear this time. Though, they hear it take off and away from them. They're all fried. At this point. They have a couple more days before this plane comes back. They all quickly eat, quickly, pack up things, get things squared away, people on guard. They make their way back down towards at Bay where they initially were going to be at the cabin. So they had ten miles to hike through rough terrain to get back to where they wanted to be, somewhere else near a structure. There was

a cabin there. They packed up their stuff, they went on down. It took them most of the day packing everything. There's four of them just maneuvering, negotiating and making a trail. When they had to get back over to day at Nurkle Lake. There Joe's Creek where this cabin was. They get back over there. No one's there. The people who were using it were probably out on a skiff. Somewhere

fishing or whatever. So they start setting their stuff down and they're just chilling along the walk through that stuff. Periodically a rock would be thrown, they would hear a sharp whistle at a distance. They stated that every step of the way out of there, coming back towards Lake Nerka Proper felt like they were being watched, stalked, all of it. They said. The hair didn't go down on their necks until they almost got to that cabin, and

then everything dissipated. They ended up negotiating with the people who had a skiff with them that were staying at the cabin to get a ride back to Elecnigek. So they ended up getting a ride back there. I ended their trip a couple of days early. I want to thank them for sharing their experience there at Rainbow Basin.

Just creepy stuff. It seemed like constant, consistent history, terrifying for those who've never dealt with it, even for those who have The ominous figure in the darkness, the whistles, the groaning, just creepy stuff. I want to thank Billy for getting the whole thing together from different perspectives, because I was having a hard time getting a hold of Dennis to talk to him about him and Marius, Dane and Chuck as well. So Billy did that for me, and I appreciate it. It's a bit too noisy for

me to find a spot around here. Everything's melting early springtime Alaska. I'm not trudging through any snow. I can tell you that much, because when we talk about unstable snow appier meaning it looks solid, but then you can sink right down into the river or damn or anything. I'm back in nineteen eighty seven, thanks again to Derek, not his given name, but one he asked me to use. He was married to a lady named Gabrielle at the

time he called Gabby. He was an independent photographer. He would sell his duck photos and various other things to magazines place like ducks unlimited, in other places waterfowl pictures. They were up the Moulchattana River about this time of year. The snow the rivers just went out, meaning the ice just broke out. They were staying at some cabins. They

had very expensive cameras. A couple other people in the group besides him and his wife, one guy was there to film Bears him and his partner went off to film bears for about four or five days. They were looking for a perfect spot to set up their blinds, some geese and other stuff for coming in. They were looking for a specific species of duck that they were trying to get a photo of. There's a academic call it a lake.

was adventurous. It took a lot to scare Derek, so he was confident in what he was doing. He went out. He was setting up a natural blind using the dead grasses there and stuff and some branches he had drug with them. Over the course of about three to four days, Gabby's did hers the same about that, not quite one hundred yards, so they weren't photographing each other in each

other's background. You got to understand from what Derek was saying, is a very expensive camera, close to thirty thousand dollars. It was analog, it was not digital. So he had a bunch of film canisters and whatnot with him as well. So what he ended up doing over the course of building the blind, he was leaving small bits of supplies there, film, nitnoid things, no snacks or anything like that. He was worried about the bears coming through and just marauding everything.

Once he were set up, it was about day four or five. He gets there before daylight. Now you got to remember land at the midnight sign, it doesn't totally get dark, but they came in before the birds were flying around. That was his biggest concern was getting there to get these wildlife shots that they've been just aching to get done. His first trip to Alaska, now I apologize second trip. First trip was Lake Ilamna the year before, they were photographing resident population of sea lions there. He

set up. He gets there about four ish in the morning. It's light out, but not full on daylight. Everything was still in silhouette, broad open tundra in front of him in the marshlands, no more for anything to really hide any bears around. They would easily pick up on real easily, and they'd stick out like a sore thumb. This particular morning, he's sitting there, he took a couple pictures of some snowbe set came in. It was too low a light.

He didn't like what was going on with trying to get his focus and filters and all that with the lenses, so he decided to wait a little bit since he was damn there out a film on that one. He

pops it open to change out the film. While he's doing so, he hears a weird kind of gurgly snort sound similar to the sea lions he heard blowing water out when they came above water, so he thought it was weird it peaked up above his blind didn't really notice anything initially, was sitting there, funnling with this stuff, and here's this low gurgling, kind of a growling sound, very similar to the sea lions, but not quite he said.

It sounded a lot deeper, so that really caught his attention, Like, what the hell is a sea lion doing in this pond. It got his attention, so he stops what he's doing. He gets up, sits up higher to look over the blind, and he sees something brown moving around in the water, and is that a beaver? So he's trying to figure out what he's seeing, and then he goes back to what he's doing. He figures he'd gets some film in the camera and take a picture of the beaver maybe

or maybe there is a sea lion. He didn't know. He was just trying to figure out that's weird because it didn't come from anywhere. It just showed up in the water. As he's doing so, he hears splashing of the water real close to the edge where his blind was.

Now where he had ended up sitting up his blind, he had made this half moon shaped path back and forth where he initially wanted a blind, but it was too marshy everything was sinking down, so he had walking back and forth moving the initial blind to where he ended up being. He had a probably two and a half three foot wide little trailway through the marsh because going back and forth they would drop the ground water

and it would be on top. He was going right next to his old tracks, just walking back and forth, and it was about two and a half three foot wide. The rest was dried grass.

He said it was like a buckskin colored skin, tongue, black looking eyes, really dark hair, all fleshed out from the water. Of course, he said he didn't notice any ears, but he made eye contact with this thing for about he said it felt like a million years, but it was probably just seconds. He's basically in shock. What the hell am I looking at? This thing stands up, exposing more of its body, raises a hand out of the water and puts it up on the edge of this pond.

Now he is damn near having a heart attack at this point because where it set his hand is less than five feet from him. This thing is literally just on the other side of his blind. He said. If he had a standard sized house broom, he could have reached out with the house broom and poked this thing in the chest. That's how far away it was.

He wanted to call out to Gaby to run, because she was less than a hundred yards away off to his right hand side, just around the rim of this pond. Her blind was sent up similarly to his, and she didn't know what was going on at the moment. As he's freaking out, he's so shaken he can't do anything with his camera. He stops what he's doing, and he starts backing up the little ways. This thing lets out a growl. Whenever he moved, it would growl and growl

some more. He said he felt like he was being challenged and it was really hard to overcome the fear he was dealing with. He said he took one of his waterproof matches as he was sitting there and tried to light the grass on fire. He said it caught a little bit, caught a little bit of his blind on fire as well, but it was a distraction in his mind. As soon as that little fire was going a little bit, he just jumps up and imagine trying to run across a waterbed. He fell several times, and

then dawn on him. I'm fleeing and Gabby doesn't know what's going on. So he stops about half the distance back to and starts screaming for Gabby. Gabby she heard him. She turns to look to see what was going on, sees this thing inspecting his blind area. She turns seize Derek and convinces to be lining it towards him. She hadn't even gotten her camera out of the bag. She fleets her area and meets up with Derek. They get the hell out of Dodge. They make it back to

the cabin. They're stuck with their own thoughts of what the hell because Gabby didn't see it as close as Derek did. Derek was shaken up when he fled. He left the gun, he left the bear spray, his camera. Basically, he just up and left Gabby the same thing. They get back to the cabin and they calmed down. The other two with them at this particular cabin went on the other side of jack Rabbit Hills to film for bears going through. They were not back. They did not

make it back that night. They were very fearful of their well being because of what was going on now. During that night, they kept hearing this bellowing, roaring kind of scream sound coming from that direction, and at this point they're a little over half a mile away from the area where they were going to be doing their photography, so it was very loud, especially to reverberate through the trees and for them to hear it from that distance, very loud, panic stricken, No gun, nothing there as far

as their bears. Brand and gun were left at his blind Of course, when you get in a panic. For a lot of people, it didn't matter if they're holding a gun because of the shock of the realization of what's going on. It irrelevant. Even the camera in the hand probably wuldn't have made a difference. So they're listening to this screaming, bellowing sound. Gabby's freaked out. She's concerned because they got a lot of money invested in these cameras.

Like I said, his was down there, thirty thousand dollars for all the bells and whistles and stuff, and the same for hers. So they're looking at a huge chunk of change that's left out in the wild. His was on a small tripod. The back was open. You don't want your camera back open in those conditions, moisture and stuff. So they're really concerned about their gear. But they're trying

to convince themselves of what he saw. She saw this thing at a distance and couldn't really make out the features that Derek had seen, so he was trying to fill in on This looked like a big flip, he tells her. So she didn't know what to do with that. She asked him where to come from, He goes, it just showed up it was in the water. It made a noise. I thought it was a sea lion. That thing was there. G estimation and only speculation. He felt it came out of the water. I don't know. He

didn't see it come to the pond or whatever. It just it was there all of a sudden. Next morning they were able to sleep a little bit. It was broken sleep. They woke up to a thumping sound coming up the stairs of the cab. They freak out. They scraighted the backside of it. It was the other two that went out to film for Bear. They were having problems with their cameras. Something had happened. It wasn't functioning right. They had another camera. The one guy was trying to

get a going. They spill all the stuff onto these two guys that just came in the door. Hey there was a big flit. They didn't take them serious at first. They blew them off. They're like, oh, come on, and the moose is probably a banner, and he goes, no, we left our cameras there. And then they took it seriously because they knew the value of those cameras, and no one's just gonna leave something that expensive just willy

nilly for no reason, you know what I mean. Plus the fact he had a gun and left that to flee the scene right told him about setting the fire, and he goes, we didn't see any smoke, so it must not a cot. He explained to me. It caught right near my blind, caught part of the blind, and I was gone. So they have a discussion. The one guy who was like still the initial guy they were talking to, believed them because of those things, because of the expensive cameras and all that, and how freaked out

they were. The other guy that was with them didn't really buy into it. He was like, ah, you guys are just over paranoid about some bears. Maybe we should be filming over there for the bear since it obviously is over there and it just real dismiss above them. The guy says, let's go get your stuff. I'll go with you.

to the blind. His camera looked like it had been toppled over, pushed into the tundra, into the marsh, so it was basically flush with the marsh tundra. The back was still open. He was devastated by the loss of his camera. The blind was pushed down or the fire didn't make it very far. He said. The fire patch was maybe two flit in a circle. Everything was too wet to really burn. The gun was untouched. The other bag he had all his film roles in was untouched.

But the camera was forced down and the blind was basically knocked down. They looked around for tracks, but it was marsh. They saw a deeper depressis following his little trill from where his first blind was, but then they disappeared. Get over to Gabby's spot where she was. Her bag is gone, no side of it. Her blind wasn't knocked down, but her bag was gone. Gabby and Derek were shaking

like leaves on the tree. They kept looking at the pond, looking around, trying to see if they could see this thing in the water moving around like he initially did, thinking it was a beaver. The videographer that was with them had told them, hey, I've heard stories coming out here a few different times from some of the locals, especially there on a Queenjack River near Naknik and over in Iliamna about the harry man. We should just cut

our losses and get back to the cabin. He gathered what he could the gun and his stuff, but her stuff was gone. They get back to the cabin, he said, the thing that stood out the most was the grumble when it growled, because he was on that marsh, he felt it. Imagine sitting on a waterbed and the waterbed vibrates with a sound you hear along with your clothes. He said. It was intense. How the vibration, he said, it almost made him feel like it was almost paralyzing him.

And that was one of the things that really freaked him out. He said, during the moment, the gun didn't cross his mind any of that other stuff that you would think, oh, hey, grab the gun, shoot it. Stuff like that. It meant nothing. It was terror. He said, it was an unnecessary fear because this thing wasn't necessarily aggressive. When they got back to the cabin and the guy told him, you know, the other videographer, Hey, this is what I saw on this and the guy was still dismissive.

There's going to be people like that all over It's irrelevant. I'm gonna thank Derek for sharing that again. That happened in nineteen eighty seven up the Malchattna River near where the Cocktuley River meets. A rough estimation on his part. We're going back to nineteen eighty seven. Thank you guys for joining me today in beautiful Alaska. I'll catch you on the next one. They say, you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.