SO EP:497 Searching For Sasquatch

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documentary films. I got to meet Jason while I was speaking down at the Great Florida Bigfoot Conference back in June. He is a phenomenal dude, really fun guy. He really gets out and does boots on the ground research and he has found some really interesting things that he's included in these films, and I'm going to link to his YouTube channel so you can go and check all that stuff out. All of his films stream on multiple streaming platforms. Two B is probably the best place to find his

searching for sasquatch documentaries one through thirteen. Jason is here now to tell us about some of those amazing experiences that he's had. He's seen these things through thermal He's had some really cool vocalizations which I play for you here during this interview. It's a phenomenal interview. I think you are really going to enjoy. So that said, all this left for you to do is sit back, relax and enjoy the show.

their pets. So every time I would meet someone with a dog or with a cat and I would take their photos, I'd ask them questions about a story about their animals. And one day some guy came to me and said, I have a pet Cayman, which is like a crocodile or an alligator, and he had it in a special bathtub in his basement. He wanted me to go and take photos off his cayman. I told my friends and they were all excited, but they didn't believe me.

They said, why would someone have a crocodile color creature in their bathtub?

all these different wolves. I flew out there and took photos and I interviewed them, and that's how I started doing all these exotic animals and going all over the world and it was amazing.

into the wilderness. I wanted to see if maybe I could possibly come close to these creatures if I went and I took a helicopter dropped in. I found hundreds of these giant footprints in a lake, and I took a drone with me and I droned the top of the lake and you could see all these footprints. I found other stuff. I found trees that were upside down. They were carried and slammed into the ground. Trees were probably about twenty five feet tall and probably about three

feet in diameter, so they were pretty big. I found other footprints, lots of tree structures, but the footprints blew me away. I showed these to the First Nations people in the area and they said that I found their migration path of the Sasquatch people coming from Alaska all the way down the California then back. I decided to put this into my first documentary called Searching Casasquatch. People

loved it. I started getting phone calls and emails from people who wanted me to come out to their conferences and go out with them because they wanted to show me their areas where they have their experiences but these creatures. So I decided to film another Searching for Sasquats documentary. I went to up of Michigan and there was a big book confidence. I was able to speak there and I was able to meet a lot of people there

that had experiences. Then the group that hired me, they took me to the up.

of it. Turned to everyone and I said, Okay, I'm going to put the hammockup and I'm going to sleep under this sex. Everyone was like, you're crazy, because these sexes mean stop, don't go any further, don't go beyond this point. They believe that Bigfoot actually makes these three axes for either us or for other Bigfoot creatures to know that this is their territory. Me, I just don't care. Remember, I'm thinking, Okay, the problem not real. That night, I'm

sleeping in the hammock. All of a sudden, I hear crap and opened my eyes and I hear crunching. Something's walking towards me. And as it's walking, I could feel the vibration of every step off the rope of the hammock, and I'm like, oh my god, is it must be a giant pig or maybe a bear, even though everyone

said there wasn't bears in the area. It stopped, I think it stopped about ten or fifteen feet right beside me, and it grunted my ear, scared the out of me, and I started shaking uncontrollably, and I'm trying to stop it. Then it turned and it started walking away, and I unzipped. I tried filming, but I couldn't see anything. Then I yelled out because I was with another research too that was about twenty feet away from me under a tree. He was sleeping, So I yelled for David's name, and

David's Jason. I'm here, what's up? Unzipped and I jumped out and I'm like, I look over and there's David sleeping and he's all bundled up. I'm like, well, I said, was that you walking around? And he said no, I was sleeping. You woke me up when he yelled my name. I'm like, are you kidding me? You didn't hear what just happened? So we looked around for footprints and I didn't see anything. So I went back and I told

her rule what happened. They were all fascinated, but you know, in my mind, I just thought that maybe they thought that I was making it up because here's the new guy. I haven't had an experience, and now here I'm saying this is what happened, even though they said, oh my gosh, this as wow. So later on, I think a couple of days later, one of the researchers walked up and said, hey, all right, I put a recorder probably about half a mile into the forest. I want to go retrieve it.

Anyone want to come. I jump up, I'm like, yeah, sure. I took my VI near camera and we're walking, just him and I. We had driven deep into the forest like it took about I would say, forty five minutes to drive the trucks into this area where the trees were much bigger. They called it old growth trees where if you know where I live in Vancouver and British Columbia, to me, old growth, I've seen trees that are like twenty feet in diameter and two hundred feet tall. So

to me, that's old growth. I'm looking at these trees that they call old growth. Sure they're a little bit bigger. So here we are, it's nighttime. It's probably about midnight we're walking into the forest. We start filming all these trees breaks, the branches as thick as my finger, and they're breaking and twisted and broken. So I'm filming all of them. Must have been like twenty of them all

the way. And then we come to an area where all the trees and the grass that we were walking in were probably about two feet tall at some point. So you know that this area that we were walking and no one had been there for a long time. There was one point a section of the trees were all pushed over. The roots were not showing, but they were all looked like they were all bend over. There was probably about i want to say, six of them

in a row, a thick, pretty thick. It's almost as if something pushed over the trees to stop anyone from going over, because there was all the trees were straight all the way around us except for this one area, and we had to crawl through get through to the other side. And as we're walking, it probably took about forty minutes to walk to where we're going. We got the recorder and we started walking back. As we're walking back, i'd see a tree break that is right over the trail.

I'm like, hey, I don't remember that because I'm filming all the tree breaks, but this one I don't remember because we literally had to walk around.

Then all of a sudden, another one came walking out, turned and looked. We're looking at this, and at the same time, we could hear cracking, because the guy I was with was like, gee, hear that. We could hear cracking other things walking beside us.

were standing. And we turned and looked. You could see there was an opening big enough for whatever to go through. We started walking back to the treet break. There was two of them. That's the way two tweet breaks side by side. We're looking at it. Then I did this maneuver where we were looking back into the direction where we saw the eye shine, and I did this maneuver where I took a step forward and then turned around

really fast, like almost a dance move. There standing in front of me with this dark shadow by a tree, and it dropped to the ground. I think there was a second one that went behind the tree. Then it did what looked like a giant spider crawl, like a giant spiders that went across I'm looking at this. I had the video camera on, but I was talking. It was facing me. I'm talking about what I was seeing behind us with the light. So I turned around when I saw this because the light off the screen, my

eyes were still trying to adjust. But what I saw was these two white eyes staring at me as I crawled across the trail. When I say crawled, it took like three steps and it was gone into the forest. But the eyes just stared at me the whole time. And I'm looking at thinking is that a cougar? Because I know we had seen Kuga tracks and other tracks around.

now editing the footage with the lights off. I'm looking and as I'm talking on camera about what I saw, this big, huge thing crawl across. Well, actually there was one eye watching behind me that I caught on camera, so it wasn't my imagination. And there literally was something there. When you see my documentaries like three and four, you could actually see the eyeshine, and they were around us. You could see some of the eye shine as we're walking.

For some reason, I think that these creatures, if they're real, I think when I'm looking when I'm talking on camera, they think I'm not looking at them because my back is to them. They don't realize that I could catch the eye shine on the infrared light, because throughout all of my documentaries up filmed, I'd caught many eye shines looking at me if I'm behind as I'm talking on camera. I didn't see it in real time though. When I was in my hammock and all that thing happened, we

had a recorder going at the same time. On that recorder we caught talking it was like Yaco, so it sounded like we had that on audio as it was talking. Then, many years later I showed it to some Red Lake then members who speak what they think is the language the chief, and she told me that the language what it was saying was I don't want you here, You're annoying me. Get out. That's what she said. That was

when I was filming search of for Lasquatch three. I was so scared that night after I saw that big giant thing crawl across the ground, I slept in the truck. I have no problem telling people I slept in the truck after the experience. Something had come up in the night and just walk hit the side of the truck and shook it because one of the researchers was in the back of the truck sleeping and it just shook and scared him so bad. What else happened on that expedition,

We actually captured howls on the audio. At one point I was in David So I had returned back and I was sitting around the fire with everyone. Dominique he had a flur and he's looking through and I had a walkie on me and he's only twenty five thirty

feet behind me where we were perked trucks. I was twenty five feet in the forest around the camp and we were all sitting around talking and I was explaining what happened, and he goesson, come here, there is something watching you guys behind this tree.

the tree. It was looking at everyone at the camp.

He said, no, it walked away, but it walked directly, keeping the tree from me. Seeing exactly what it was. It just blows my mind it did that. So that was the start of moving up the percentage of my belief in Bigfoot. From there, I went to Michigan again. This time I was about a year later. I went to a farm and I was with Chad Datema and a bunch of other researchers. I was with Robin Haines Wickraye also. We went into this area. There was about six of us. As soon as we walked past the farm,

it was a big cornfield, corn and wheatfield. Corn on this side, wheat on this side. And we walked through there was this area of forest that it looked like something out of an enchanted forest, but it looked evil because all the trees were dead and rickety and very dark. Just as soon as we walked into the tree line, something crashed through the forest beside me, scared the heck on me and I started running through the forest chasing

whatever it was. We started seeing eyes shine one hundred feet away looking at us from behind trees and I'm catching these.

shoot with professional four K video. There's a delay like a half a second delay, and then half a second it dropped to the ground. They went behind the bushes, and I'm standing there trying not to shake.

you have to understand something now. If anyone knows Robin Hayes wm Cray, she communicates with these creatures by mind speaking, so for I would say an hour before any of this happened, Robin is communicating with these big foot creatures. Allegedly, she's saying that she's telling me the names of these creatures, and one of the names was a young one that it's scared, and the adults are telling Robin to tell me to stop chasing these creatures because I'm getting too

close and they're getting angry, they're feeling threatened. I'm still skeptical, so I'm trying to get close enough so I can get video now here I am standing in front of I don't know exactly what it is, but it's definitely doing some kind of primate body language because it's doing this thing behind the tree, and all I'm thinking in my head is, oh my god, I'm waiting for an adult bigfoot to come walking up behind me and just go whooh and just hit me on the head because

I'm trying not to put my pants. And you can see the footage and you can crop in a little bit before my shaking gets the camera.

Someone said, maybe it's an owl. I'm like an owl. So you have to understand something about birds. Birds only touch the ground when they're feeding. That's the only time. There's only two birds that really stay on the ground a lot ducks, chickens, and geese. Other than that, while birds, owls only touch the ground when they're feeding. The reason for that is everything that eats birds are on the ground, really, so a lot of times birds will not just hang

out on the ground. They're like, hey, you know what, I'm just gonna sit here and do some dancing and wait till something comes and eats me. No, it doesn't happen like that. So for someone to say it was an owl, if it's an owl, then it land on the ground. Why what it thinks I'm a threat, so it's going to land on the ground and get closer to me.

the Louisiana River. I went to interview a guy who allegedly shot a bigfoot and killed it. He didn't as HEAs know we killed it, but he shot it and it fell to the ground. Of course he didn't take pictures. Of course he ran off as soon as he shot it. It was like twenty feet away from him. When he came back the next day, there was tire tracks, there was blood. So I went and interviewed him. I was pretty crazy interview The entire forest came alive with screams, howls, roars.

It was scary as heck. That were just howling around us screaming. I had my camera and rolled Oh, like my god, this is nuts. You can clearly tell the coyote sounds from the unidentified sounds. That's why I was so happy to hear the coyote howls next to these other howls that sounded so different than the coyote holes, but they were all around us. I was with four or five researchers and we were all hearing them. We

tapped it all on film. That was amazing. Then at one time we went to a graveyard who we took ATVs to this graveyard in the forest. When we got there, we're looking around the graveyard. We're there for probably about twenty five minutes. We're doing the howling, we're doing the wood knocking, we're looking around. At one point there's a fence. It was like a farmer's gate that would block people out from driving down his gravel driveway. There was a

signs I no trespassing. I'm like, okay, I'm just going went round it. As I walked about four feet, I hear crunching in the forest. I turn around, you guys, there's something moving in the forest. So everyone comes around the gate. They're all started filming. We had flours or looking into the forest. I go walking to the forest because I wanted to get close, because I wanted to capture the audio on my video camera. Sure enough I did. You could hear it walking. One of the guys caught

the creature kneeling down on flour. All of a sudden, it stood up and he caught this on flour. Like I said, I'm not saying it was a bigfoot creature, but I went and took some flour for to me. Standing next to the tree. You can clearly see I had clothes on. Right, you can see my outfit. You can see what I was wearing. And whatever it was in the forest, either it was a big, hairy creature or it was a perverted farmer that was naked touching

himself watching this from the darkness. Who knows, but I'm saying whatever was standing there had no clothes on. You could clearly see that in the footage. I put that in the documentary too, and the roars, the roarers are just incredible that we captured Ohio Grassman. I did documentary called Enter Ohio Grassman. It's like a pond on Enter Sandman with the audio comes in. It has a bit of the sounding of the Sandman. So we're in there and we're looking around in the forest there and Chad

Datemar was with him again. We're driving down this one area. Clearly the road was washed away from rains. It washed it away, it was shut down, so no one was around there. As we're driving down, Chad saw some eyeshine standing there looking at us. I put the brakes on and I backed up and it was gone. So we jumped out of the truck and we ran into the area. We ran towards a nine foot thousand pound creature that the rip your apart into the darkness. So we're running around. Boom,

there was tree structures all around us. It's crazy. You could see that these tree structures are just like they stand out. I don't know how many tree structures that you come across while you're doing your expeditions, but you'd be looking around and sully, boom, it stands out. So I'm filming, and obviously I'm trying to rationalize to be made by these creatures. Did they fall out of the tree. These things are basically clear. You could see there obviously

the area that we were in. Of course humans can go there, so it could be human made. But we found one that was pretty much just done. You could see how wet and how fresh it looked. And then I did the same thing. I said, okay, Chad, that just stop. We'll turn off the lights. We turned off the flashlights. We're sitting in the darkness. All of a sudden, I turned it. I looked and and my video camera is still rolling and I look. I'm like, I think I said eye Shine, and it just blinked. It just

closed his eyes. Like like I said, maybe it's just my imagination playing tricks. So I'm looking at maybe it's nothing that shadow. I'm like, that is a pretty big tree that's standing between these two trees. I didn't have a flashlight because my battery was dead. And who goes into the forest without extra batteries? Come on, what kind

of expedition guy? I am sure enough. Two months later, I'm at home, I'm editing, and as I'm looking to the footage, my camera pants and sure enough, you see the eye Shine looking at us from the darkness clearly, and you could actually see the two of them, and it was easily nine feet off the ground. So that was exciting because well, I'm looking, I'm editing, I'm looking doing okay. So it wasn't clearly my imagination. I saw something. Was it a big foot?

This was in the Colorado Rockies. So it's about thirteen inches long, which doesn't really mean much because I don't know about you, but I know quite a few friends and people that have thirteen inch feet.

how can there only be one footprint? If you spend a lot of time in the woods, especially here in the substrate in North Carolina it's very similar to Texas and other places that you've discussed. You can go out. We've just had three days of rain, right. I went out today, walked the dogs a couple of times before

we did this. There's places where the dogs step and there's dog prints here, and there's no prints here because just five inches away it can be dry enough because of wind elevation, there's just enough of an angle to drain the water off. And I went out and demonstrated that because it is one of those things where I scratched my head and say, why is there just one print?

And I think more oftentimes than not, that to me is the ocom's rais or answer is that depending on the substrate and where the print that you found is at. In a low spot, there was some moisture there and it made an intention, and the other one was high enough on the substrate that it did make an indention. I think there's some kind of an explanation for that. But I do want to go back to the footprints

that you discussed. I did see, if I recall, I looked a little bit of the documentary you're talking about this morning. I did see the drone footage over this lake. Can you talk a little bit about size and what these prints are they similar to what you just showed here that you found in this other area as much as you can in detail describe those prints that you saw.

bunch of them. Talking to the First Nations people and talking to some of the locals, they were definitely thinking that they were made by these big foot people. But when you see them up close, they are it's pretty amazing. I didn't see any.

something that's of the canine family. It's hard to explain whether it was a bark or more like a gruff growl kind of sound at the end, but that's very close. Let me play this other clip and let everybody hear.

to go looking for what was making this weird. It almost sound sounded like an owl, but it was off a little bit like it's sound like an owl, but not, if that makes sense. We went down looking into the area. We found this tree structure that was really tall. It was made up up a whole bunch of the trees. Ironically, directly across from that was an actual spiderweb.

that people tend to experience. Wayne and I just did an entire episode over on that Bigfoot podcast, one of my other shows, and we addressed the doctor Matthew Johnson claims of portals and some of the other things that, Yeah, this guy's literally saying that Bigfoot is picking the president in twenty twenty four and he's a part of some ousel and these out there claims. I know how I deal with that as a researcher. I think there's a

place for that. Like Robin for example, I treated her very respectfully on the show, and her experiences are her own. I don't ever talk badly or treat people poorly because of what they say the experience. But I said all that to say I think there is a place for that, and I address that in my new books. I squatch on leash the truth behind the legend at some point as researchers. In my mind, if you're out to prove this and not everybody's in this for that, I want

to prove the species is real. I want to prove it for myself and anybody else who's interested. So I try to approach this very scientifically. I try to look at it from a critical thinking point of view. When you're doing that, it's difficult to do when you have these high strangeness stories that are interwoven into the research. How do you handle that as a researcher and you come in contact with people who have these high strangeness

sort of situations. Do you take that data in as the same as you would just a regular run of the mill, roadside crossing, and how do you put that all together when you're doing your research and where do you come out on the other end, Are you leaning if these things are real, that they're more flesh and blood or do you think there could be some high strangeness portion to these creatures?

this lollipop is for you. It's a gift. If you don't like it, please don't eat it. Because it looks delicious, Please don't eat it. I went and stuck the tree cam facing it. I went did my thing, and the next evening I came back. I was failing at all and I walked up and it's gone. It's off the tree. I didn't fall off the tree because I made sure when I put it in there that it wasn't dwobbly. I touched it make sure it wouldn't fall. It was wrapped up, you had a wrapper on it. I'm like, okay,

it's gone. To the researching beside me was like, oh, Jay, it's by your feet. I turned around and sure enough, it was by my feen. I picked it up. It'd had a nibble taken out of it, so it's okay. There was a squirrel or a chipmunk or something just I'm like, okay, you no, like, can't fine? Too bad for you.

my mind. What is the odds of that? The one footage that I wanted to see the squirrel or the chipmunk eat it, because in my mind, I just think it was a chipmunk. It's like we're in nature, there's other animals. So my thoughts on the weirdness of people talking about portals and stuff all it makes me wonder about how these creatures can hide behind such small trees. Now, where I live, like I said, the trees are much bigger.

They can hide anything. But you go to Texas, you go to Minnesota, yes you do have trees like this big. But when you go to Texas, over the years they choked down all the trees and planted new ones. The new trees are so skinny and small. So it makes me wonder how these creatures can hide behind such small trees. Some people think that Bigfoot is an alien that comes off these UFOs. I did interview a cop, a law enforcement officer that was retired. She didn't want to go

on camera at all. It took me like six months to convince her, please, I will black you out, I will change your voice, nobody will know who you are. In fact, she left the forest after she saw a UFO and all of a sudden, the ufolk took off. The UFO was probably a thousand feet from her. It was just hovering over trees, and it shot off big light, and then these two giant bigfoot creatures come walking out of the forest towards her. She turned around her truck

and just took off. Scared her so bad. She didn't talk about it for a long time, and eventually I convinced her. I blocked her out. I changed her voice, like, I really alter her voice. To this day, people say, can you tell.

I agree with you, it's definitely a hedge scratcher. We've talked about it a couple of times. We've mentioned the documentaries. Let's talk about the films. Where they're at, where people can see them, Where can they go and check them out.

I've met some amazing people. I've talked about the she Squatchers. They're one of the most amazing people that I've met and work with and gone into the four They take it bay seriously, but at the same time, we have.

want to go and see a new Bigfoot adventure. I've also produced two paranormal documentaries where I went into haunted places searching for evidence of the undead. I've even published a comic book. It's a graphic novel called Searching the Sasquats and the Hidden Treasure Bigfoot Valley.

They can find those also on Amazon and stuff. How many of my search and sas courts documentaris?

head over to event bright. I will have a link to that in the show notes, so you guys if you want to get tickets and you can come join Jason and I and the other speakers out there in Missouri. I'm looking forward to that in September.

you've had, if you'd be anything. I'm not only going to be doing documentaries on Bigfoot. I'm going to be branching off doing other cryptids like dog Man, mock Man, even the flying dinosaurs of New Mexico, Florida. Skunkcap is coming up next. So you can also find me on searching for sasquats dot CAA.