Hey, everybody, This is Left Strive. Yes, yes, I know aka Survivor Man, and you're listening to Brian on sasquatch Otis you there? Thanks so much for being with us for the show. It is Wednesday. I hope you had a great week. We have an amazing guest line up for you. But before we get there, I want to start by inviting you. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email you get me a Brian at Paranormo World Productions dot
com. You can head over to the website, check it out, become a member there and help support the show. As I said, we've got a great guest lined up on the show. I got to sit down and talk to Harley from Tennessee and he had an experience about three years ago where he saw a sasquatch and was able to take a photograph and he got some great pictures and some video of a footprint trackway, as well as captured audio that you'll get to hear in this episode. But I'll let Harley tell you
all about that in just a second. As you know, Christmas is coming up next week, but we're going to keep a regular production schedule here in the studio so you will not miss an episode. But enough of that, I know you guys are ready to get into it. Harley's on the line, he's ready to go. You got to sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. I don't want to welcome my guest to the show. It is Harley from Tennessee. Welcome to the show man. Yes, sir,
thank you for having me. I'm glad we could reschedule this, so let's get right into it. Were you interested in the subject the Bigfoot before you had an experience or was it even something that was on your radar. It was just something that I never really looked into and could actually accept that is reality. I just thought it was just a bunch of bull craft. I was like, yeah, it's not even possible. And there ain't no giant, a black creature of whatever you want to call it running around the
woods. And sure enough, it's three years ago in September, I sayed one, I got picture of and a at the tracks, and I got the howls of it, And these things are real, They're legit. And I've actually recently started my own group and I'm going to start a YouTube channel on the podcast in twenty twenty four. I'm gonna go out new field investigations on my time off of work and dedicate my future to get more evidence to
support what I've already got. And it's great stuff coming from a hum believer, and I knew if I didn't have it any nobody was going to believe me. But it is what it is. People is going to do what they're going to do. It's just human nature. Let's get right into your experience. You had this as you weren't a believer in Bigfoot, so let's talk a little bit about what happened here in your experience. Where were you,
what were you doing, and what happened to you. I was actually at the time working for my dad and mom's neighbor that you had an auction company that auctioned off old saw mills, and he took them fort and read everything and sold them all the equipment or whatnot that was at the auction. We were up there for about two weeks and a week prior it was me and another boy and we went up there to clean the equipment stuff and get
it ready for the sale. That weekend, me and him was talking with the owner, and he was telling us about a bear that was up there around the sawmill that was taking the garbage and stuff out of the dumpsters. He said, there's a bear, he's pretty good sized, running around, and there's snakes, rattlesnakes, copperheads, and a bunch of coyote. He said. This is what really stuck with me. He said, there's far worse things in these mountains than that. And I was like, that's odd.
That's something you really don't ever to here, because what could be worse than that? And I got to thinking. I was like, okay, maybe, well, black panther or something, because there's been stories around here for years about black panthers running around in Tennessee. It's like, okay, maybe that's possibility. That's what he's talking about. Going on through that rest of the week there, nothing really happened, and auction day was on Saturday.
And after the auction I stayed up there for the next week. He sent the other guys to somewhere else. I can't remember where it was sound. I think it may have been Pennsylvania or somewhere, but I stayed up there to load the small stuff that was on pallets or that could be loaded. That next day, it was a Sunday. It was raining and stuff, and I wasn't just going to sit in the hotel all day. I'm
to go. I can't just sit still. So I went back out there and I got down to the saw mill and I've got parked, and I was just walking around looking and I was organizing some stuff, and I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna walk over here and look around. Man. I got walking around looking and I can make out some of the tracks that there was only two of them that I can make out pretty good. And I sent the pictures to you of those two and they were you could
see where it was raining and stuff. And I found those first two that were really good, and I was like, man, there's somebody either walking around here butt naked or barefooted, and they're bigger than me. I'm six six and I'm almost two hundred pounds. And then it's just that's a big foot. And I was like, I was joking with myself, like okay, yeah, bigfoot out here. I was joking with myself. I was
like, Okay, there's a big fit. So in the next couple of days that dried up, and I believe it was a Tuesday or a Wednesday. I know it was the twenty third at September, but I don't remember what day it was on exactly. It's either two day or a Wednesday.
I had a guy come in there that morning. I had helped him load a couple of his pallettes up and a couple other small things, and he coming in there about eight thirty nine o'clocks and I hadn't had anybody in there for a couple of hours, and it was going on about one four twenty you want forty five. I go to my service truck and I grabbed coke coola and my peanut butter sandwich out of my cooler and I go just about and take a bite out of my sandwich and I heard like this gral a
chagrin. And I looked over towards the woodline and I was like, maybe that's a bear. Because now I had never heard a bear. I was like, maybe that's just a bear. I looked over towards the woodline and there was nothing there, and I was like, okay, I heard it
again. And up on this there's a big flat right there where I was at it's a big flat and then it goes up on the ridge and I looked up on the ridge and there was opening some stuff in the tree and I could see his flash of black and I was like, okay, there's a bear. All I think was just a flash of black behind this the brush going up through there on this all on this clip page. I was like, okay, there's the bear. And I'm still sitting there looking.
I could hear it up there walking. It was just real heavy. Whenever it was walking. I was like, man, that's got to be a big bear. And I looked down and I looked back up and I've seen it go back in behind where it was peeking out from. I was like, I said, no way. And I sitting there watching it and it would lead. It was leaning out and it was looking and I was like, oh my god, this thing's big. But these things are real, they're legit, and it was just like oh, like oh crap moment,
and I was just frozed. I was like, if I don't get a picture of this thing, nobody's going to believe me. Because I was like if I try and video, this thing will be gone. So I just pulled my phone out. I snagged a picture, and the weirdest thing happened with this phone. He was a brand new phone I had. I believe it's the iPhone eight. I can't remember what phone was if I believe his
iPhone eight was new to me because I had always had Samsung's. And I snagged a picture and this phone just seems like it was drained of everything. It wouldn't come on until about thirty ish minutes if that after this creature was gone. This whole thing lasted like maybe five minutes. And it was there
and it was peaking out watching me. And I noticed it, and I mean just sitting here and like thinking back, like this thing was looking at me, and it was looking on up the valley because the sawmil was involved in this big valley, and it was just it was looking at me, and then it would like look over to which would have been my right. And this thing was just crazy intelligent. The feeling that I had when this thing was looking at me was just straight up just fear and confusion. But
there's also something else there. There's I feel like it's something spiritual, but it may not have been, but it was definitely a different experience. For sure. Let's talk a little bit about the situation because I find it interesting that this thing was growling. And I've heard this before, and I want to get your opinion on it, because I like that you're a skeptical person. You went into this skeptical. You weren't looking for bigfoot, that kind
of thing. Let's talk a little bit about that, because I've had people that have seen these things and they talk about their encounters, and the first thing they say is, this thing makes some kind of a noise. It growls, it snaps a stick, it hits a tree or whatever, and then steps out in front of them. You probably wouldn't have known this thing was around had it If it hadn't have made that noise, I would have
never known it was there. Right, So you hear the growl and then you look up and you see this thing peeking in and out from behind a tree. I know what's subjective. I know you don't really know. There's really no way to know what's going through this thing's mind. But having had that experience, and now looking back, and you've talked about your experience a couple of times, now, what do you think was going on? Do you think this thing wanted you to see it. It growled and showed itself
to you for a reason. I definitely feel like that thing wanted me to know that it was there, and that's it's domain. That's definitely how I feel about it, because if it had had done it, I would have never known it was there. Like I said, and it definitely made its presence known. I knew it was there and it it just turned around and went back the way it came. I could hear it walking up the ridge. It was loud, and it's just a life changing experience. Man.
I still have people and people in my family think I'm crazy. My wife, she's still she's skeptical. I've showed her everything and she's skeptical about it. It's hard being ridiculed about it. It's good a praef as I got. I never imagined that I would catch as much crap as I have about this stuff. It's hard, Yeah, man, I can only imagine because I've been through it myself. I found tracks and I found things here on my property that I can't explain, and I put it out there and people
start making fun of you immediately. That's why the latest evidence I have I've gotten some really good tracks here a couple of months ago. I haven't showed them to anybody. I think one person I showed them to because she's here in the area and I have a relationship with her and she's into bigfoot. I send her the pictures and she's, holy shit, you got to show
people this stuff because that's amazing. And I'm like, no, I'm not because it's too good, because people are going to ridicule and say I made it up, and I made the tracks, I hope something whatever. I just don't need that in my life. I am glad that you had this experience and you did catch what you did, which is pretty amazing considering that you weren't into the subject and you were able to get a photograph. You were able to document the tracks with photographs and video which you've sent me.
I will post that on the website. If you guys want to check it out, you can go over to Panama Worldproductions dot com check out the Sasquatch out to see blog at the top of the page there and you can see what we're talking about. I want to talk a little bit about how far away this thing was from you. It's difficult for me to see in the photographs, and it's hard to judge the distance. So why don't you tell me in the audience how far away was this thing when you saw it?
And can you talk a little bit about what you got to see? The description as much detailed as you can give, and how big this thing was? How big do you think it is as far as heightweight that kind of thing. I'd say it was easily over one hundred yards is pretty good distance. Why I had my camera zoomed in as far as it was go and I'm still amazed that I got as good as a picture that I did of this thing because I had it zoomed in all the way and I just I
was trying to stay as still as a kid. I might have been taken a little bit, but it's a great picture. It's definitely a shadow. You can see the hair on this thing. If you zoom in close enough, you can see the light shining on its hair along the edge of the body. It's a great photo. And yeah, the enhanced images, I just blew my mind on one of them. You could definitely make out some
of the facial features. You can see an eye and the nose and some of it, and one of them it was actually, as somebody had commented on one of my posts in my group, he ran it through his lappop on snagget and he was able to just play around with it. And this thing was not black this entire time. It literally looks in that picture like
it was reddish brown. So I don't know if that was just the shadow of the brush around him making it look black, but the photo that he done, it appears to be reddish brown, and it just it blew my mind. But like I said, it was about one hundred yards away. I really couldn't make out no facial features or nothing. But I will say the most impressive part of this thing that I do remember was just a sheer width of this thing. So I'd say it was easily thirty four feet wide
across the shoulders. It was too massive. I'd say it was easily easily seven and a half eight feet tall. I'd say five hundred and six pounds. It was impressive. Yeah, it's definitely big. Let's talk a little bit about the tracks that you saw. Obviously we've got photos of those, I've got the video that everybody can look at. But for the audience is listening now, Talk a little bit about the tracks. What did they look like? Did they look human like to you? How big were the tracks,
and what did you initially think once you saw those tracks? The first set tracks that I found long Sunday, I definitely just thought it was maybe a homeless guy walled them around out there, and I was like, he's got to be a pretty good size home on Spandely A big track like that. The trackway video and those tracks, those came from the day after I saw the creature. This thing came down from the ridge where it was at
and that evidently they used a deer trail that comes out through there. It came down that trail and end of the saw mill where I was working out when I was gone that night after i'd left, or in there that morning. It was sometime like that, but it was definitely in there whenever I wasn't in there. It was insane and they were definitely human. You can
make out the heel and you can somewhat make out the toes. But in the video, if you know, there's a dried up creek bed right there, I mean, you probably can't really see it, but there's some rocks and not dried up creek bed, and that thing came from across the creek bed. And you can see where this thing came down and it slid on the first track that I show. This thing came down and it's stepped in
its slid. You can see where literally where it's slid, where the ground was, the little hump right there, it's stepped in its slid, and just the stride from track to track. I, like I said, I'm six six and I couldn't do its stride like that. If this was insane, it was ridiculous. And they're definitely like a large human track. I definitely I want to go back to the owner of the auction that you were talking to and talking about the bear. Looking back on this, hey,
did you think that he knew more than he was telling you? Obviously, if he was telling you there was something bigger and badder than a bear out there, do you think the bear that he was telling you about might have been his way of giving you a code word to say, hey, beware of this bear, and he may not have actually been talking about a bear.
Then then, obviously, did you get a chance to go back and talk to this guy after you had your encounter, have a conversation with him about what you saw and maybe what he might have known was out there before you saw it. I feel like he definitely knew. I tried to get in contact with this guy, and I'm still to this day try to get a hold of him and be like, did you know this thing was out there? This whole time. I still haven't been able to get a hold
of this guy. It's like, you don't want to talk about it. He definitely had to have known this thing was out there. But here's the kicker. Whenever I was going to leave and come back home, I went to a diner and I talked to some old timers. I was like, if anybody's gonna know what these things are, it's gonna be these guys. Because they've lived here all their lives. They know these mountain legs back of their heads. So I just sat down with them. I just struck up
conversation and I was like, we're just talking about some different things. And I got to talking to him. I was like, I've been up here for about a week two weeks now, and I've had an experience with something that I don't want to accept, but I said, I've accepted it now that I've seen one. I was like, I think I've seen a I think i've seen a Bigfoot. And I've showed them the tracks and showed them the picture, and I let them listening to the vocalizations and they were quiet.
They were quiet first, and they one of them eventually spoke up. He said that there's the Devil month. And that's something that I had never heard before, and it's stuck with me to this date. And he's like, you're lucky you didn't get yourself hurt or killed because these things are aggressive and they'll run you out of their territory. That's something I don't forget. Devil Monkeys, that's it's say. I definitely think you just named your episode
devil Monkeys. I want to talk a little bit about we mentioned it a couple of times the audio. Talk a little bit about how the audio came about. I'm going to play it for everybody here in just a minute. I think there's like a four minute clip, but I want everybody to hear the entire clip because I want you to set it up for So, when did you capture this idio? What was the circumstances of the idea, what was going on before deering and after you captured this, And then I'll play
it for everybody so they can understand what we're talking about. It was in just ride about desky dark guys, sitting in the truck and inn catalog and just making sure whoever came was supposed to come and pick up their stuff for today, because we had people scheduled to come in and pick stuff up. So I just sitting there doing that and now the old birds chirping, drink its and all that stuff, and all of a sudden, it just the woods just died. And I sitting there, I was like, that's odd,
and I had to window cracked a little bit. Now I got out. This was the first night when I heard on. There's one particular vocalization that happened the first night, and it was the really loud vocalization. So I got out and I went to the back of the truck and I see standing there listening and that's when when it started howling. And it was up on top of the ridge, literally where I had seen it earlier that day. It was insane, just the forest and just the way that sun sound
runs right through you. It was insane. The whole place was just a going and after that one I got out of there. The other two audio clips were from the next night, which was been a Thursday, because I went home on a Friday. Yeah, it was right. I seen a freachuer on Wednesday, and I heard the first set of vocalizations on Wednesday. And then the next night's when I got two separate a fifteen minutes, if
not less than night a part. And it was insane that the next night there definitely had to have been more than one because one would sound like it's coming up on the holler from where I heard it the night before, and then the other ones were just scattered out everywhere. There had to have been more than one. They just they sounded different and it was unlike anything I've
ever heard. Dude, it's crazy. All right, I'm gonna play it for everybody so everybody can get an understanding of what we're talking about and what you captured. So these are the vocalizations that Harley was just talking about. See yeah, all y ll all o o oo, shoes, sus sash, such susp susan name, English house and away game, English m D name name Janish English, English name names you English your name name name when English UNI. Stay tuned for more sasquatch oat to see. We'll be right
back after these messages. That is some really weird audio. When you send it over to me today, I send it to a couple of people that I know that are into audio. I send it to Doug Hicheck for Monster Quest. I said, Doug, tell me what you think about this audio. I don't know if you're familiar with David Ellis over at the Olympic Project. He does a lot of audio work for them, and he's been in tons of documentaries that if you've seen a Bigfoot documentary that's played audio, you've
probably seen David Ellis. Doug has worked with audio and video for forty years in television. But I send it over to David just to say, Hey, I'm interviewing this guy tonight. Take a listen to this audio. What do you think about it? He listened to it, and he sent an email back and said that he believes that it's in the possibility of human range. I don't know what that means. Again, he didn't have any backstory. We only went back and forth a couple of times and talked about the
audio. I tell you his response surprised me because when I heard it, I've never heard anything that sounded like that. And if this thing was as far away as you say it was on this ridge, it's pretty impressive. As far as the audio, I've never heard anything like that close up or far away. Doug Hichek sent me back a text message. He was like, what's the background on this? So I told him a little bit about your story and how you had seen this creature the day before. Doug said,
Man, that sounds like a dying elephant. It's like a wailing sound like it. It's just odd, man. I've had people tell me it's l one. It's not an el It's definitely not an elk bul. I mean, I've heard help bugle and leave. We've got elk care Tennessee now that they've reintroduced them back, and it's not elk. I've got people tell me it's coyotes. Definitely not a coyote. If that's a coyote, it's a monster. I've had people tell me it's coonhound. I used to have
a coon dog as a walker. As far as I'm aware of a coon dog is never sounded like that. Yeah, man, I used to coon hunt when I was a kid, and I grew up around coon dog's all my life. That is definitely not a coon dog we're listening to. And I'll be honest, David knows way more about audio as far as that kind of stuff than I do. I'd like to have some more conversation with him and maybe have him go a little bit deeper because he literally just as a
favorite to me. He did it really quickly today, just popped it in, listened to it and said what I'm seeing. Because the thing about audio, if you work with audio like I do with the show, you start to look at audio more than you listen in some cases, because when you put it into certain things like a spectrogram, you can see the audio. And I can literally look at a human's voice who talks on here, I can see an and I know what those look like in the audio because I
added most of those out of the show. It's very similar to what David does with the audio because he knows a ton of known animal voices. And that's the one thing he didn't come back with. Oh no, that's within the human range. But I think it's X Y or Z. He didn't tell me what the possible candidate could be, because I tell you, man,
it's one of the most interesting things I've ever heard. Frankly, knowing the story of you seeing this thing in the very same area, to me, is just that extra layer of credibility on top of If you just captured the ideo, if you just stuck a recorder out in the woods and left and came back twenty four hours later and that was on the audio, you'd
be like, what the hell is that? I don't know, But you saw this thing, you saw footprints, you saw impressions in the ground, you saw this thing, you took a picture, and then you were experiencing the vocalizations on top of that. It's just that extra layer of credibility. I don't know any other way to say it. I appreciate the fact that I assume you recorded that on your phone. Is that how you captured the audio? Yeah, I had to use my voice memos to record that because
my phone from earlier in that day. Yet the camera on that phone still I work to this day. I still have the same phone. Like when I use the home button on it, it just deep that makes all kinds of weird noises, and the cameras still don't work. I believe these creatures are capable of in forsound. I believe that feeling that I had when when I was looking at this thing, I believe I definitely got an impact from in forsound. It was unlike any feeling that I've ever had. I'm new
to the bigfoot community. I've learned so much just in this past little bit, and I've actually been out doing my own investigations now and definitely interesting stuff for sure. I'm definitely hoping to have another encounter, hopefully right here in my own backyard, literally about thirty minutes from the house. Let's get into that. When you and I were we were messaging back and forth today, you said that you had been out recently and doing some investigations and you had
some interesting experiences. Let's talk about the stuff that just happened a couple of days ago. Yeah. I don't know if you're familiar with Scott Carpenter, but apparently this is one of the spots that he used to investigate and he got run out of this spot, and this spot is what made him stop doing his infield research. Apparently, and this is from one of his friends. But he sent me where this place was at, so I kicked it
upon myself. Okay, I'm gonna literally go because it's literally twenty by thirty minutes from my house. It was a couple of days ago. I believe it was Wednesday when I went, so I just got off work. I didn't go to sleep. I was so excited. I was like, man, I'm just gonna go out here hopefully find all kinds of stuff. So I'm on the way out there and I turn off on this road and it's a gravel road that goes all the way back up in there, and I kind of wish I took my truck and not my wife's. Far Now,
heat was messed up in so that's why I took her. Forest. I was driving up in there, and I just had this heary feeling. Man, I was like, damn, this is this eerie. So I just kept driving up in there. And this is an old cemetery. It's called
Trip Cemetery cause the tendency way up in the mountain. I just pull in there and I parked the car and I'm facing sideways just in case, Man, what if these things come running out and run me out of here, and I just got to go. So I got out of the car and I'm sitting there walking around looking and I stayed up at the cemetery for about twenty minutes. So sometimes I get out of my car and I've got this
all video and documented on my page foot Forts and Data. I'm looking over to my right and I get out of my car and there's a bunch of laurel trees down in there. They're still green. And I looked over to my left and I see it about eight foot up. This tree is literally twisted and broke eight feet up. So I walk over to it and I raised my arm up and I'm standing flat footed on the ground and I had to stand on my tippee toes to even get up there. To that,
I don't think it was natural. It was literally twisted and broke. And there was a trail right there next to where that was. There's trails went down beside the cemetery, and the trail that went down the left into those laurel trees down in the haller, and there was another trail that shot up straight back in behind the cemetery. I mean that trail may have been a hiking trail, but I believe that trail that was running beside the cemetery gates
there, I believe that these preachers are using. So I'm still sitting there for about twenty more minutes, I just get this eerie feeling. I was like, this is familiar, because I literally it's like I had this filling three years ago. It's just hearing. My hair started standing up. So I was like, okay, and like I could hear some movement over in these trees, and I'm just like, man, I'm just gonna go.
So I get in the car and I'm driving on my way out, and I look over to my left, and sure enough, there's a big tree right there, and it had a bee in it, and there's this log the b day long, and it was literally laid in the V of this tree. And I'm just like, man, this is just too good to be true. I was like, that's not natural because that log was laid literally in the V of this tree, and that had on the back side of the tree was another log that was propped up and laid in the vat
it definitely caught my attention. I'm still learning that I'm learning new stuff every day, and there's stuff that you can think about and rule if it's natural or not natural. Yeah, I could have just fell right there, sure, But looking around right there, there was no signs of a tree break or nothing. It's literally just placed in the v of this tree, and the other one is just propped up right in the same spot. How could something natural do that? Like when? So I'm still driving on the way
back out of this place, and I see another one. It's a smaller one, but it's a broke off stunt, probably about seven seven and a half feet I was a little taller than meat. At the bottom of it, there was some sticks about that big a realm. There were one on this side, one on this side, and one on the backside. And it just really caught my attention. I was like, yeah, I could
a hiker have done that? Certainly. I'm just sitting there thinking it doesn't look like anybody really goes up in this place because it had been raining and stuff, and it didn't really look like ive goes in there. So I'm just like, man, it could be bigfoot, but I'm not ruling that that it's not. So I'm still driving out of this place, and it's pretty good drive back in there. So to pull up on this next spot,
and I could see from it was frosty and everything. And so I'm pulling up and I see where the leaves are kicked up going across the road, and like the gravels were kicked up. So I get out and I start looking around them. I'm recording while I'm doing all this, because I was going to do a Facebook live and I didn't have no service up there. They had some sandllite, really, So I get out and I'm looking around and there's these walnuts on this rock and they are smashed. Just all
these walnuts are smashed on the rock. And I'm like, that's odd. As far as I'm aware of squirrels, they bury walnuts. What kind of animal would place these walnuts on these rocks smashed? There wasn't just one rock, this whole little flat. I've got it all on a video. There's multiple places where these walnuts are just smacked and it's just the shells. There's nothing else inside is gone, it's just the shells, just smashed the pieces.
And I just keep walking around and looking and I think I may have found a couple of possible tracks. I'm going around here looking some more, and there's this big old patch of green just laying on the ground, but you're just branches and some big old area, broken branches laying there. And
I'm like, this is weird. Sung over and I'm looking around and there's none of these trees around this area right here, and they're all broken and they're laying in this big area and I'm looking around and I'm just like, this is either a nest or this means something else. I'm still looking into that. I speak one seeing if they think't that's had some tell me that could be a nest. But it was just really strange. These green leaves
are falled up in this big area. I could see where something was laying in there. It really interests and stuff. I remember on my way into this place, there was a big oak tree on the right hand side. I think it was an oak tree, but it was right when you get into this place's big tree on your right. And on my way out there was a stick propped up against it, and I'm sitting there thinking, I'm
like, that wasn't there when I came in. It was literally propped up on this big tree, and to my knowledge, it was not there when I drove in. This place is definitely gonna be one of my top spots, and I'm gonna try and be looking into and I'm trying trying to have more areas to go look into. I've been in touch with Scott Carpenter's son and he's gonna try and get me some of the areas that he's looked into. It's definitely interesting stuff. Man. It's interesting that you mentioned the walnuts
because I've talked to the people at the North American Wood Ape Conservancy. They're out an Area X in Oklahoma. That's one of the things that they were finding in that area. Clearly, they've had tons of interactions with what they call sasquatch out in that area, and they're finding what they call these nuts stations, where the exact same thing that you just found in Tennessee a couple
of days ago is happening out in Area X in Oklahoma. They're finding these areas where these things are using rocks to smash nuts, remove the nuts out, and leave the shells behind. Just what it is, it's loali, just the shells land on these rocks. And there was multiple rocks in this area. And get this, Whenever I was going down when I found the first possible track right there next to the rock where I found the walnut, and like on the moss right there, it literally looks like this thing's hand
was dragged right because the moss was gone. It's just this big area. Probably about that why it just gone off the monts. I don't know. If it hans swid there, if it was the rock, I don't know. But when I'm down in the creek and I come back up to the car, that's when I find the next track. I don't know if it had just come through whenever I was on my way up, or if it was there whenever I first pulled up. But it was literally fifteen feet from
the car. It was right there, literally right in front of the car. Wow, crazy stuff, man. I never imagined that I'd be hunting big footing here. I am. It happens to all of us, man, we never imagine it, and then it happened. That's definitely interesting stuff. Stay tuned for more sasquatch ott to see. We'll be right back after these messages. What's your take on bigfoot? I meant to ask you that. Do you think that they are a flesh and blood creature or do you
think there's something more to them? I am probably ninety percent in the flesh and blood camp. I think if they exist, I think there's something to them that maybe people attribute to being something supernatural that I haven't experienced. There's a lot of people who have mind speak things go on, they have weird orbs and other things that are associated with Bigfoot. I haven't experienced any of that stuff, so it's very difficult for me to say that it is directly
connected to Bigfoot. So I rest solely in that ninety ninety five percent that they're flesh and blood. I keep an open mind because I could be wrong. Nobody really knows right. It could be something that's interdimensional. They could be Nefflin. Nobody is expert. Nobody is expert in this field. If they they are the full ship, honestly, what do you think? Do you think they're pleasure now? Do you think there's more to them? I
definitely feel like there is more to these creatures. My faith is a big part of my life, and I definitely feel like I'm meant to be looking for these things. I feel like this is God's purpose for me to be in this life because I think these things are the netfhiliw. Honestly, I may be wrong. Like I said, there's nobody an expert in this field. When I was thinking about it, these orbs and stuff. You know, some people see the orbs with them and these Nephilim they're racing giants from
the fallen angels and women. They could be long lost descendants of the nephil them from back in biblical times. Just the thinking about the orbs and stuff. Maybe some of the Bigfoot are physically here and maybe some of them aren't. Maybe these orbs are the Sasquatch and another dementia or whatever you want to call it. I've really been looking into that when I'm sitting here thinking like nobody else has thought of that yet. Some could be physically trapped here in
this world and some of them may not be. You could definitely be right, man, that might be a big crocker crap, but it's definitely something worth thinking about. I mean, it opens your mind, just leads to more questions than answers. Unfortunately. Yeah, that's what I found with it. Man, Like I said, you could be right. I never closed my mind off to any of that. I'm open as far as other people's theories, people's experiences. Because I haven't had those experiences doesn't mean that it's
not real. You may be the one to prove it if you prove it. Like I said, if I'm wrong, I'm gonna admit I'm wrong and say, yeah, there's something more to them, but exactly ninety ninety five percent I think they're probably just a flesh and blood creature of some kinds. Prove me wrong, man, I don't want to say that. I do want to prove you're wrong, but I'm going to try and frind as much freef as I can, you know, because the cloaking, I just don't.
I don't see how these things can cloak. Adds more mystery and the portals and all that. It just makes me open my minds. Crazy stuff for sure, But it was finitely a great time to not Brian. I'm glad we got to get this finished up. Everybody go over and check out Bigfoot reports and data on Facebook. I will link to that in the show notes, and you guys go over and join. I just joined the group. Show some support to Harley and what he's got going on. Man,
I really appreciate you coming on and sharing your experiences. I've had a blast talking to you. It's been a great time, my friend. I look forward to being back on the show. They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay. I don't want to be world out data on that time. Everything. Can you king back? Joy for me, Joy staying right you can it right away? Still sat side side, stay, step stops, stas, still start, pass stays and games USTs pass