Hey, everybody, this is Less Striding. Yes, yes, I know aka Surviving Man, and you're listening to Brian on Sasquats. Oddis you, guys, and welcome back to Sasquatching Boys. Thank you so much for beating with us from the show. It is Friday. I hope you guys have had a week. We have an amazing guest line up for you. But as always, I want to start by inviting you. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email you
get me at Brian at Paranormal World Productions dot com. You can head over to the website check it out, become a member there and help support the show. We do have a great guest on the show today. We got Logan back on the show. Logan has been on guys. She was on last year I think, and he just got back from an expedition up in
the Radium area in BC with Todd standing back in July. And as most of you know, I'm going up there in the beginning of October and I will be up there for a week on an expedition with Todd and Kyle and those guys up there in BC. So Logan is here to share some of his recent experiences. On that last outing, he had some really cool experiences and I let him tell you all about that in just a second. Before we get to Logan, I just want to take a couple of seconds and
do this for Doug high Chick. He reached out to me recently. Again, as you guys know, he's doing the Legend Meet Science to documentary and he's looking for a couple of volunteers that are willing to do some really cool
stuff with regression. So if you've had a class A siding and you would be willing to possibly participate in the documentary and undergo hypnotism relaxation with a trained PhD for that film, you can reach out to me Brian at Paranormal World Productions dot com, or you can email Doug high Check directly Doug at Untold dam dot com. Just let Doug know that you heard about it here on
Sasquatch Odyssey. Please make sure to include your phone number in the email, so either I or Doug can reach out to you directly, and just know that if you want your identity concealed for the film, that can happen as well. So you can remain anonymous and still participate in this really really cool thing that they're doing for Legend Meet Science too. I know you guys are ready to get into it. Logan's on the line, he's ready to go. So I'm gonna let the music play. You guys, sit back,
relax, and enjoy the show. All right, folks, I want to welcome my guests back to the show. It is Logan from Texas. What's going on? Man, A whole lot of stuff. Been busy, went out with Todd again. It'd be my third time out with him. Personally, I've been busy. But O, we're all just been listening to your show up and let's not have everything Bigfoot awesome. Man, I'm glad you reached out. I saw that you were going back out with Todd back in
July, and I certainly wanted to get you back on. Hey. I always like to hear how people have that experience, what that experience is like for them when they go out. If you haven't experience while you're there with this, ask watch. So let's move into that. I'm going up there in October. I'm looking forward to I've been wanting to do this for a while. And I know you've been out, Like you said, this is your third time, So talk about July and talk about that process. How
did that come about? What made you go out? Let's start there, what made you go out again for the third time with Todd, and then just walk us into that experience and tell us what happened while you were out there. I guess from the first show I went into a lot of the experiences I have, but I just get a really good vibe out there. It's beautiful. There's a whole lot of trace evidence out there. I've had experiences comfortable there, and honestly, a week out there is what I need
to refixate my life here. So it's it's therapeutic to me. And that's also I just love big Foot and I love everything big Foot, so it's it's awesome to me. And I've got to know Todd, I guess on a more personal level on it. He's a good guy, he's a family guy. He's very energetic, enthusiastic person. I want to find a camp
somewhere I can go where I know there's going to be activity. I don't want to go out in the woods and just camp like I want to know where a good spot is where I know at least have some kind of interaction. I haven't been able to find a lot of stuff around me. I know you've probably done interviews to people around Texas area, but I don't really hear anything super positive. I hear a lot of groups that are want to shoot and prove it. And most of the land in Texas is private property.
There's not a lot of mountains, there's not a lot of public big huge ranges where you can just go out in the middle of nowhere. So to me, it's a great country out there, and it's awesome going up there. Let's talk about once you get there. I'm going up there in October. Like I said, what is it like as far as the experience
of coming into that area? And there's been a couple of questions, and maybe you can throw this in as your answer, because after I started saying I was going up there, after I announced that, people started asking me where is this place? Obviously I don't have the coordinates. I'm not going to drop the coordinates of where this place is so people can go up there and do their thing or what have you. But can you give a little bit of a layout of the land for me first and foremost, and then
everybody who's listening, is this private land? Is it public land? Is it way out in the middle of nowhere? Is it hard to get to give us the play by play of going into this and then what happens once you get on site and really get into the first part to the expedition. Sure, I think for most part it's pretty out in the middle of nowhere. Coming into Calgary from the airport, it's three three and a half hours
away from Calgary. It's in the Radium Mountain range, in between Radium and amph like in the middle of that zone, and which is a huge zone. Come in on this dirt road and I'd say the closest thing really there people are doing and you'll see it when you go out there is like the main offset of that road is really for mining, right, So there's a lot of old logging stuff all the way through there, but the main road there is really I don't know what is it, twenty twenty miles where these
big trucks go through for mining. There's a mine that they do. I don't know what's I don't know what kind of rocket is, but they're mining this mountain down a ways and that's really the closest thing the civilization with you'll see truckers and again that's still like off the norm. That's the general area. And I know Todd likes to keep it somewhat secluded because he doesn't want people to like ruin this zone. Maybe some day people will know it more.
I don't know. I don't want to ruin it for him. That's about as close as I could tell you as far as the area, like what to expect. Todd's really good about food, Like he brings all the food. He does all that gives you breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
And he's got some ebikes out there for when the days where you're not really hiking a lot, you can use the e bikes and just look at there's some trails around there where you can ebike, go down to the glacier, run off these rivers that go into the main river there and just explore because let's be honest, you're not going to see a big foot every second of
the day, right. It's beautiful land out there, So it's that's what you should expect, just a lot of hiking, a lot of around the base camps really where a lot of the activity happens, which you know he used to have another he'll take you out to another place where Survivorman went up the mountain and did his old on the tree power bars and the head of the Sasquatch. He'll take to that place, which is probably like thirty miles. I don't know. I'm really bad about duzzing distance, but it's probably
twenty miles. His main base camp right now with a worthy a lot of activity happens, so you hike around a lot, and just me hiking around there, I found a lot of footprints on my own the last time I went out. Like when t is getting familiar with her, he just want to make sure you're not running the woods screaming, throwing food on the ground. A lot of people don't go out in the woods that they're not really outdoorsy, so they don't really know the rules of bears and wild animals and
attraction and smells and stuff. He's a pretty protective guy in that manner, like he wants to keep everybody safe. He doesn't want you to be stupid and go off trail too far just because it's anger's out there. If you don't have bear spay or something possible. You come up on a black bear. I came up on at least five different bears and last times I went, so I mean they're out there. As far as like expectations I can give you, like the last trip I was out there, a sequential order
of things that happened to me in our group. But I think going out there, you can make it what you want to make it. If you want to go, Hey, I want to go that way, I want to see that mount over there. I want to go hike that mountain. You do whatever you want to do. I had the notion of trying to use something I can't remember the app name, but it's an app aimed it does like a random geo location. One of my neighbors told me about it. I was like, oh, that's cool. So I took it out
there and used a little bit. You need the Internet for it to work, so it can geo okay where you are. But he has like a Starling system out there now so he can do some short videos and stuff. Because it runs off a diesel generator, so you can't have it running all the time. He has trails and stuff that he shows you where he's had sidings activity. If we find tracks or structures, he'll probably take you there and ask you what you think about it. There's a lot of cool stuff
that we found, new breaks, we found new structures. We just explore a bit, and then stuff happened to me during the day, and then stuff happened to me at night, and then stuff happened to me early morning. So it's random. I can't put a dime frame on it. Things happen. That's what I would expect for you. I know you're gonna go out with Kyle, right, Yes, And I think Kyle's dad's gonna fly in as well, and he'll be there for the week. Yeah. And
Kyle knows the air really well. I know it really will now. Yeah. I mean, you just do what you want to do. I think the last people that came out put recorders out everywhere. I was actually I got it. I think off of your show with Doug hi check Hey. He was talking about how he made his own custom body cam. I use your show as thought process, like, Okay, I'm gonna do it.
He did making my own, So I basically bought a lot of what he talked about and put it on me when i'd go hiking because it wasn't like night vision, so at night it's not super useful. But when I went hiking, I wore it all the time, So I actually got a little bit of content off of that just doing that. So it's good, good stuff. Let's talk about some of those experiences. You said you had them
all during morning, afternoon, and evening night. So just go into sort of a playboy play with the experiences that you had and what they were in the time of day that you were experiencing them. Okay, I want to say it was the second day we were there, after we got all settled in and we're basically I think it was later the guys I was with they were from Pennsylvania, I want to say, and they were two brothers. First it was showing where Todd did his gifting area and just the lay of
the land. Later in that evening, I want to say it was Friday Todd. I guess it's his girlfriend. Actually, she came out. She was out there with us, and I've been watching some of her stuff too. I was okay with her coming out because she seems to have a lot of experience. I don't know. Maybe females attract more activity, so I'm all good with it, right, More activity for me is better. So
she gets out there. We're sitting it's probably eight, and this time in the mountains, it doesn't even it doesn't get dark there till eleven o'clock at night. So it messes up my internal clock because I'm used to sun going out at nine, no matter what. It was like eight and the sun was still up. We had a parabolic system that I had bought and sent to Todd and the guys were using it. It was actually Robert Crider makes
it. And if you've never had Robert Cryder on your show, I would definitely get home on your show because the guy is he's a brilliant guy, and I totally respect for what he's doing. He's doing the same stuff Todd's doing. But they were using it and they were listening. Todd and Ashley over there and they're hearing some movement in the woods. This guy, Matt, he was using it and he was listening. He's I hear stuffed over here, like I hear stuff walking out there. So I say, okay,
we'll just see what happens. And he's pointing it like one hundred eighty degrees around the camp, just listening, and you hear it on both sides of us. He's hearing it on both sides. And then his brother's taking it and listening and he's hearing some stuff too, and we're like, okay, Tod, let's go on there, let's see, let's see what's about. Let's go in the woods where we're hearing it. Let's see if we can see anything. Right, So we start walking in the woods. I
put my body came on just in case. I was like, all right, I can't remember to wear this thing, so I put it on. I'm probably in the back because I had to get all that stuff on. And then they're walking in front of me, and you hear like these footsteps ahead of us. It doesn't sound like an animal petal steps. You can hear it. It's probably fifty feet away. You can hear the movement. And Dan and Matt there's the two brothers have been there for a day and
Tod Todd has the shotgun. Right. Dan's in the front and he's hearing this and he's I don't want to be in the front. I don't have the gun. I don't know what he's thinking, but maybe he was a little freaked out at first, right, So he's sad, you gotta get ahead of me, man, this is crazy, Like I don't know what
that is. And Todd gets ahead on he's walking and we all just spread out and I just stay in the back a little bit because I just more or less in my mentality, if there's one, there's two, so maybe I should be looking behind us, right, So I'm looking more behind us. Just cope and stuff out, and they fan out through the woods and I go my own direction and Ashley's following me and it just stops. We don't hear it anymore. We're like, Okay, that was super weird.
There's like a hill that's above the base camp and I wanted to go up there, but I was like, yeah, I don't really want to climb that hill right now. I feel like it was more maybe going up the hill, and they were going more let's just call it nors. So we go back to base camp and we're sitting there and we're like, oh, that was really cool, and then we just hear like I'm not good with sounds, but we hear like yells like to stink yells in the woods totally
different direction, like two of them. Dodd doesn't even hear it. He's inside making dinner for us. We're sitting by the fire, we're here and these yells like, okay, that's crazy. What is that? And I was like, I don't know how goodn't hear it? So it was just random things to that nature. Like on the second day, and I, you know, we would stay up. I would try to stay up at night a lot, just because I feel like they're more nocturnal personally, like
to stay up pretty late and just hang out by the fire. We didn't have much, but we'll just talk around the fire at night every night, just random stuff. Todd has tons of stories. It's fun to listen to. The Next day, we go put out apples at this Gifton location that's probably I don't know, I'm giving you rough cuestimates, seventy five hundred yards away from base camp. So we put out apples and we're talking about past experiences and stuff like that, and then we just fan out a little bit
more. And I've been there, m Like I said, I've been there twice. So to me, like Todd's kind of teaching those guys about like the local trees, the plants, the fruit like stuff like that, bears, you name it. And I've heard some of this already, so I'm just like, I'm just gonna do my own thing. So I start just go on my own way. I feel more or less that's what I need to do, is just have my own experience. So I'm going my own way. And Ashley's kind of by me, and we're walking through the woods
and it's probably both over one in the afternoon. It was right before lunch, before we had lunch. And I'm walking and Ashley, he's probably fifty feet away from me. I can see her, and I take my eyes off her and I keep walking. I don't and I don't know where she went. And Todd's down the trail what he calls a porcupine trail. I'm not sure where he is at this point because I just know he's with the other guy showing him something. But he was way down the trail because later
on bait took him a while to get back. And I hear actually do a whistle, and I'm pretty sure it was her because it sounded like her. I think she was trying to just buy locate me and have me whistle back, just to know where I was. But I can't whistle, so I'm just like, you're barking up the wrong tree. I've never been out of a whistle, so I don't say anything because I don't want to yell and dream in the wood. So I'm just like whatever, I'm not gonna
whistle back. I'm just gonna keep going. About three seconds later, you just hear a really clear whistle. I'd say thirty feet from me on my left Directionally, I was on my left, it was on her right because we're it was in the middle of us. I just thought it was like Todd or somebody doing a whistle, and I was like, okay, cool, they're here. I'm just gonna keep walking up the seal. I'm actually just looking for prints on the ground. I go back to base camp after
a bit in the woods, just sitting. Ashley comes back. She's, man, you're so good at whistling. You whistle better than Todd. And I'm like, what are you talking about. She's like, when I whistled, you whistled back, and I was saying, no, I didn't. I was like, that wasn't Todd. And she's now I'm like, oh, she's oh my god, like what Like it was right in the middle of both of us, like thirty feet in the middle of us, and
we couldn't see it. It literally did a super clear whistle back at Ashley and we both heard it and she thought it was me doing it and I thought it was someone else doing it. And again, Todd didn't show up till ten minutes later. He was down the path with Matt and Dan. So it was just like, we're stupid. We didn't even realize there's something right in the middle of us, Like where the heck is this thing. It's middle of the day, and it's not a bird coal We're not that
area, and we know what a bird sounds like. It was like a cumanistic whistle and I can't whistle. I'd do it for you, but yeah, it was definitely a whistle. It wasn't from us, and it was a cool feelings to hear that whistle happened in the middle of us, and in retrospect know that it wasn't either one of us doing it, So that was really cool. Like I said, we go out and we go do a lot of hiking and stuff. A lot of it is just really hiking
in July there, it's hotter than usual for those I'm from Texas. To me, it's like nothing. To them, it's oh my god, it's so hot. But we do a lot of hiking, a lot of take breaks and just chill in the shade a lot. Dan had an experience when we were hiking where he felt like something was coming up on him. I wasn't there, so I won't go into that experience because it wasn't mine. But him and Todd discussed it, and he was sitting like on top of
this weird tree structure when it happened. We're all just sitting having lunch, and he was probably fifty yards out from us and we're in the middle of nowhere, and he felt like he had an experience because something kept walking up on him. That was something, But again I wasn't there. I can't substantiate any of that was kids experience, not mine. What I can't say is I think a day after that, and this is a little bit of a story. I'll try to make it like somewhat as quick as possible.
So when we went out there, it was hailing on the way down so Todd was worried about the hail and stuff, and he forgot to fill a struck up with gas. So he has very little gas in this truck, and we want to use it to go down the camp some and then go up to this other location. So I'm gonna go fill my truck up just to make sure it doesn't around of gas. I'm gonna leave you guys. Do whatever you want to do. Logan, you know this area, Go
hike with these guys somewhere. I'm afraid of wane around of gas. I'm so the nearest gas station is I think is an hour away from there. So he's gone for a bit he leaves. I'm sitting on the outside of the trail, sitting there listening in the woods, and I'm hearing some knocks, so it sounds like tree knocks, licks, braddock. I can't quite tell what it is. I'm sous telling the other two guys, hey, let's let's go over here and let's go this way. So it's I want
to say, it's east of the camp. We start walking that direction. I have my body cam on. We see a grouse, seas some squirrels, and I'm still I'm walking in that direction of the sound I heard, and then I just pick up a rock and hit the tree with its area is they do knocks with rocks, like big rocks and not like wood on wood. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch Odyssey. We'll be right back after these
messages. I don't know. I feel like it could be a combination of that and maybe like a mouth pop almost like they could make it so loud it sounds like wood. That's my theory. I can't prove it. But I hit a tree with the big rock about the size of my hand pretty hard. It makes a big thud. I'm waiting and I get a response back. I hear right back, and I'm like, okay, that's cool. And I'm like okay, I'm gonna keep going this way. Then,
like I said, I'm just wondering in the woods. The National forests untampered with land old forests. There's a line in between where his camp is, where the loggers and stuff haven't gone ever because they can't they can't get there, but they're not supposed to log that area. I'm walking in that direction and these guys they found a track the showing it to me I'm like, yeah, it looks like a track. You guys can whatever, show Todd or whatever. Later when he gets back, I'm walking and like I said,
I can't whistle. I didn't feel like picking up a rock because when he hit a rock on a tree can hurt your hand. I just go with my tongue. I tried to allow as I can, and then I get a response back, and then I'm just doing it with my tongue, but it sounds more like a rock. I'll just put it. I'll just preface that and I get back. I both look at both the guys I'm with and they're like, straight face white in the face, Oh my god, what is that? And they're like, all right, let's go this
direction. So we're all pumped. I'm walking. The other guy with me, he can whistle, so he's doing like a bird whistle almost. He's doing it, and he's getting a response back. He's getting a knock back when he whistles, and every I don't know, ten fifteen feet I'm doing like a tongue pop and I'm getting two back, or if I do it once, I'm getting at one back, and I'm just like, this is
nuts. We're getting freaked out a little bit, just because we're getting so much back and forth, and so we're walking probably i'd say at least five minutes since the woods, probably two. I don't know, Like I've said, it's hard to tell on how far it is from base camp really, but i'd say it three hundred yards. Maybe we're getting at the edge of this national forest and they're ahead of me because in the middle of this, I'm like checking my bag. I'm like, oh, my my cable for
my my body cam. It's not in all the way, and I'm like messing with it, fisioning in it, and i have a shotgun with me and I'm trying to make sure I don't shoot myself in the face with a shotgun, so I'm putting it on. So they're ahead of me, and they're they're probably a hundred feet ahead of me because I had to do that, and I'm yelling at them because I keep hearing it, and I'm like, are you guys doing that? Are you trying to respond back? Are
you guys doing it? And they won't respond to me, and I'm just like, Okay, I guess that means they're not doing it, and they're just moving towards the sound. Okay, they're ahead of me. We split three ways like a rake, go most like this, I don't know, like that into this old growth forest where the trees are probably most of the trees are like seventy two hundred feet tall. I can recognize a cut line
because I've been I've been there, I know where it is. And I'm like, okay, and I see Dan I don't know, fifty feet ahead of me, eating underneath his tree and he's just sitting there. And then his brother Matt comes up and I finally get there. I'm like, what's going on. It's coming from this tree right here. And I'm like, what what are you talking about? He's like telling you, it's right up this tree. And then I'm looking at this tree and I can't see the
top of it. It's a rough guest cement. It's eighty ninety hundred feet toll, and the branches don't start till about sixty feet up at least, and it's I don't know, two ft three feet wide. It's a huge tree. It looks like the grandfather tree in this forest. I'm just like, okay, is it The tree's making the sound or what. I don't know. I don't get it, and so I'm sitting there, I'm waiting for it to happen again. You just hear like it was three and then
I was like, what the heck. So I have some of this on my body cam, or at least have a good hour of it on my body cam, and I've got a clip I can send you of just where you can hear just a random knock from this. So we're sitting there debating this tree, and he's Dan's like more or less saying, I've seen documentaries where old trees can make like creek sounds, and maybe that's what it is, like the not expanding and like at this point it's four o'clock in the
afternoon, I'm just like, I don't know. I've never heard a tree knock at me before. So He's like, I'm telling you, it's gotta be like this tree it's just doing that. And I'm looking at the tree and there's no there's something rubbing up against him. There's a couple of little trees to the ride of it, but they're not hitting the tree. It's not like a rub like you can hear when the tree is kind of knocked with the wind, you know, you can tell it, and this is
like loud, just knock. And so we're sitting on under this tree and we're talking, debating all this, and you just every time we talk it would just interrupt us and gon and so I'm getting annoyed and I'm just like, I want to climb that tree. So I'm looking at this tree and I'm getting a little disheartened because Dan's like adamant about this. It's gotta be just like a tree noise. It's gotta be natural. And I'm just like, you could be right. I don't know, but it sounds super suspicious.
So I'm looking around this tree and then we start finding all these prints around the tree. There's this big fourteen fifteen inch print literally ten feet from this tree. I go up another five yards there's like smaller footprints probably I don't know, let's just call it a ten year old because it was half to size maybe, And it's clear the day. There's prints. We found at least three different prints there. We found where there was some deer bedded
down there. The weird thing is we found an old jerry can there that a bear was chewing on like offset from the tree. We don't know where that thing came from. There's definitely stuff there, there's definitely activity. There's definitely human big foot footprints, huge footprints there. To me, it's okay, I don't I don't know what to do with this. It's four o'clock in the afternoon. I can't see up this tree. And then we started
joking about cloaking and stuff. I don't know, is it cloaking up there? What is it? But I can't see the top of it. So I'm like, all right, we'll just call it a tree noise and move on. I don't know what to do with it. So we make a pyramid back towards the base camp at an angle where we know we can hit it and go a different direction. And we're like, okay, anything we hear from this direction south of us, we'll just call it this tree. We'll try to ignore it. It only does it as we're walking away,
probably a hundred feet await does it? Just a real loud one once? One more time? And I'm just annoyed with this. So Todd's not there, he's at base count. He's nowhere near us. The guy Dan was like I thought Todd was just messing with us, like a whole time. I just think Todd's over here just messing with us. There's no way to messing with us. Like chomping through all these trees, I can't take three steps without making every single branch on the ground just crack. It's just trees
fall everywhere. It's vegetation, like just dead vegetation everywhere. I was like, no, it's there's no way it's Todd. We would hear him coming a mile away. So we keep going back and then we kind of circle back, and then I go up this hill and I go down it because I'm trying to find the right path back and I know there's like the gifting areas up on a hill, and I'm on the outside of this gifting area, going to go up another yell and down. Then I find this big
footprint that's in the video he posted with me in it. I don't know if you watched it. That's where I found that footprint, right after the tree Knox. So that was pretty cool. It was definite clear as day footprint on the right of it. You can't really see very good on video. There's a bigger one beside it, and it looks super fresh. It was there. Like I said, Todd will tell you this if you talked to him, but he goes off. If it's fourteen inches, it's probably
more of a fourteen year old fifteen inches, it's fifteen year old. That's his speculation. That's not science, but that's what he thinks. So he's more or less thinking that's what it is. So we go back to base camp, Todd sitting there. Basically he just got back. He was sitting there, yea had his Sally system going out. Think he's talking on the phone to someone, and we were telling him what we found and stuff. He's, oh, okay, let's go out there and look at the track
or whatever. So we go and that's when we do the whole video for the track, and I'm trying to tell him right before he's shooting the video, and I was like trying to tell him about the tree Knox and stuff, and He's looking at me. These trees don't knock back at you, right, And I'm like, I get that, but I don't know what that means anywhere. I'm like halfway in the middle of disheartened and halfway I don't know what the hell that was, and we end up going back to
base camp. We didn't have a lot of activity at night anyway. We end up going back to this tree the next day and doing a video on it, and it wasn't making sounds. Of course, it wasn't doing anything. It's just a tree, right, and we're just openly discussing what is this? What could it be? He's you got three things you're knocking. It's knocking back at you. You follow the sound to the tree, Okay, you get to the tree, it's still knocking at you. And when
you get to the tree, this footprints all around it. He's only like, how much more evidence do you guys need? And I'm like, it's the valid point. I just wish I would have stood under that tree for a lot longer and to see if you know, something came down, or hey, let's put like a recorder here or something, because again, nothing gets the The guy with Dan like that's I've seen this on a YouTube video where these things can do this, And I'm just like, okay, like
I'll just take your words for it. So of course Todd's kinda's kind of thinking the son of a bitch, like why didn't we sit here longer? And then Dan's when he gets internet in the satellite, He's trying to find this video for hours. I know it's there. He's like, can't find it. There's evidence of something like this, and like when it's like dead
winner and it doesn't quite sound like that. And then there's some kind of I don't remember some animal squirrel or owl or something that makes that sound. I don't remember what it was, but it didn't really sound like that. And then Dan has some video of it, and then I have the body camp footage of it just sounds like a large, a loud knock. My body camp is not really built for like sound. It's more visual truly, built off a car dash camp. So there's sound on that, but you
can't hear the magnitude of the sound, if that makes sense. So you can hear the hit if I send you the video, you can hear it and everything, but like you're not going to feel the actual sound that we heard. That's the best as I can explain it. If you're like, oh, that just sounds like nothing, like it's definitely there, it's just weird. On the dash cam video. That was really cool. It made me think harder on it, and I really wish I would have done more
investigation there. I really don't know why I didn't. But it was four o'clock, were yet and Hungary. It was hot, and again there was no wind on this tree. There was just the summer day, no wind, blue guy, nothing. There was a tree break pretty fairly close to as well. It was older though it didn't look like new wood, would look like old wood. But to me, it was really cool experience. And I really do think him back on I really think it was something I
can't duly tell you. Todd would tell you there's definitely something up that tree's He was more or less telling me that he tried to film one of these things up a tree once and he said it took him hours. He couldn't find it. He said he couldn't find it until he turned the whatever, the body heat whatever it is, what is it called, I'm losing my word. The infrared, Yeah, I get fred, but it's yeah,
body heat camera. He'd actually it was like clearsday in front of him, is like he this thing was eight feet tall, is right in front of me. I could see it on the tree. But I took this thing off and it blended so perfectly. He was more or less there was probably like a smaller bigfoot up that tree, and he was totally messing with you guys. So again, regrets, but cool experience. The other thing that was really cool that happened to me so the whole time. I'll get to
this in a second. So we go out at night, and I don't know I would if you go out there, I would recommend it for you. We go at night and pitch black and we just carry basically stuff to protect us and no lights and we don't turn any lights on, and we just walked these trails and it's pitch black. You can see the stars. Stars don't come out till like eleven, really, honestly, if they don't get really super clear and pretty until twelve. So we'd go out and just
go mile or two down these trails and they just sit and talk. And like I said, Todd, I might have mentioned four, but he's really getting into more spirituality and the mind speak and trying to be more in tune with like different aspects of reality. Let's put it that way. So sit and meditate and just think, hey, we're here, come and play with us to put it in the short term like words, but we would do that. We did that a few times, but the second time we did
it as we were walking back. I mean, this is one o'clock in the morning. I would press is that if someone's out in these woods and the pitch black at one o'clock in the morning, Brian, they're freaking nuts, because that's not something you want to do alone. Let's put it that way, Like, I mean, you can see someone with a light on out there, like I'm sure at some point, but like it's crazy, and we're walking back and Todd just look and he's just, you know,
I feel like there's something over here on the left of us. And I'm just like, okay, that's cool. We'll see. So we get really close to base camp on this trail and he just stops and he's like, I really like there's something over here. I'm gonna ask out loud. I really think there's something in these woods. I'm gonna ask out loud if it'll do a knock for us. I was like, okay, cool, whatever
whatever floats about, they'll see. As I'm sitting there, and he's all right, give us two knocks and you just hearnock, and I a'most like, come on, like, how is this possible? Come on? So I almost like, okay, you got my attention. So I'm sitting there with one of the other guys. I'm sitting on the ground just listening, and again it's pitch black. We don't have any lights on, and he's
okay, I'm gonna ask for one more. So this time I'm gonna say, do one knock if you want us to come into the woods with you, And so he says it real low, not loud at all. I could barely hear him say it. And then you just hear knock, and it's at a totally different location. This one seemed further out. This one seems more out and close to us, to our left. I'm just like,
this is nuts, okay. And then I go to the tree line where him and this other guy are and you can hear some movement in there, right, You're like they're both kind of freaking out, like, oh my god, it's like, right, there's what do you guys want to do. I'm like, we came here see big Foot, let's go in the woods. So okay, So we walked down adjacent about ten feet and go in and I'm getting hit by branches. I can't see nothing. You ever try to walk in the woods in the dark, pitch black, It
doesn't work out for you. So we're walking in the woods now, it's probably one thirty in the morning, pitch black, and we walk in about I don't know, fifteen hundred feet into the woods and we just sit there and he's more or less like I said, he's into mind speak stuff. He's trying to do different types of call it telepathy, whatever you want to call it, just trying to talk in his head and communicate with these beings. And I'm just gonna see if there's something they want us to do.
We're here, come on, come out, We're ready. We hear some more stuff, movement coming towards us. We hear another knock, we hear something behind us that's like they're in front of us, they're behind us, and I'm just more or less okay, let's something happened here. Come on. It's freaking me out a bit, and we just sit there. I think they're more or less shocked that we came in the woods and did this. I don't know if they know what to do, and he's what do
you guys want to do? We can sit here where we can it's five two in the morning. We can sit here for a long time. We can go back and go to sleep. If we push them too hard, I don't know if they'll come back. I don't know. I have no idea what to do with this. I was like, all right, whatever, we'll just go back. We haven't heard anything for ten minutes. Let's go back. So we go back. I'll go back into the camper.
So I have a window in this camper and I'm looking out the camper and I'm trying to visualize what's outside because it's just basically it's you can see shadows and a little bit of tree and not a lot. I can see what the top of the trees are, and I'm looking over the trees and I can't sleep because I'm hyped up from all this experience. I'm looking over the trees and I see I don't know it was a flash, but I see it flashed light over the trees, and it's not like a meteor comment It's
like a bulb flash. Like I'm an old camera. It's boom, and I'm just like Okay, I know I saw that everyone else is snore in their butts off else snore like bears in there, and I'm just like, I don't know what that was. That's crazy. I think I see movement out there, but it's so dark I can't tell what's the shadow what's not. I eventually fall asleep. It's probably three or four in the morning,
and that was that. But I did see a weird light. I didn't see an orb or movement, but I did see a flash of light above the tree line that I couldn't explain. That's all I saw, perfectly, honest. That's all I could see was a boom and it was done.
I don't know. It was weird to me seeing that light and having that all that experience, and then the whole time I'm out there with Todd, I'm trying to have my own experience and go off by myself and camp in the woods on my own, because I feel like maybe I should just do that on my own and see if I get more activity just being alone. This is probably second or third day before we leave. When we go in high I'm trying to look for a spot that would be good because I just
brought like a sleeping bag, and I don't care about sleep. I'll sleep on the ground wherever. They don't care. But it ends up raining good night, and I don't really don't want to sleep in the wet outside while it's raining. It rains off, and on the last few days we're there, I was like, ah, okay, I'm just gonna sleep outside by the fire. And the fire's twenty feet from the RV. But it still seems like forever at night if you're by yourself, when you're out there alone,
it still seems kind of creepy, to be honest with you. So most people when they come out, they don't sleep outside. They sleep in the RV, just because it feels safer. We have good night out there. We're talking around the campfire. You know, nothing's happening. Canna get entire. It's like eleven thirty. I'm like, come on, Todd, nun's happened out here. I'll go. I'll give you the biggest bonus if you can get something to come out here. Just makes something happen. And
he's, okay, let me try something. So I have this on video. It's pretty funny. He goes out there with this. It's comical but also pretty cool at the same time. He literally pulls this bluetooth speaker out that kind of lights up, and he starts walking down the trail and he's playing that old Indian song. It's from the nineties, so he starts playing that full blast, walking out jails, singing and screaming. He's just trying
to draw with something to the camp. The other guys go out there, we have to walk behind them and get into the spirit of things, and I record that. It's funny. And then later on night, you know, they caught it and Matt turning. They go to the RV. Dan couldn't sleep. I'm just gonna say it with you if that's okay, because he knows I kind of jump up be out by myself. It rained a little bit earlier, off and on the clouds were dissipating a little bit.
I'm by the fire. It's probably two o'clock at night. Todd's like, I'll see you in the morning. He's I don't think you're gonna make it out here. I think you're coming in. I's like, all right, we'll see Bud. And then Dan's out there with me and he can't sleep, So he's he likes to play with the wood and kind of whiddle it with a knife. He's out there woodling it with a knife, and I'm just in and out of a sleep and awake. And I wake up. And I don't know what time it is till later, but I'll tell you
what time it was. It was probably about four thirty in the morning. And I look at Dan and he's passed out in this chair by the fire like this like snore and his head off, and I'm just like, okay, you didn't even know he passed out here. So that's funny. So it puts me at ease a little bit because there's someone out there with me. But at the same time, I'm like, god, whatever, I'm not gonna wake him up. And then about five minutes later, I hear
him getting up, and he's getting up, he's looking at me. He puts another piece of wood on the fire for him. He's like, all right, good night. He goes inside. He later on in the morning he tells me he gets up because he's here and like movement behind him and it's freaking him out. I'm like, thanks for letting me know. So at this point, it's four forty five in the morning, and where we
are in the mountains. I didn't know this because I don't live in the mountains obviously, But like I said, it doesn't get a hitch black dark till twelve o'clock at this time of the year, and the sun comes up right after five am, but it's really five hours of darkness. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch Odyssey. We'll be right back after the these messages. I
didn't know that because I've been sleeping until at least seven seven thirty. I wake up a little bit and i can see the blue glow of the sunrise, just a tiny bit, and I'm like, oh, Okay, the sun's fixing to come up, and I don't have to be as freaked out. Sun's gonna be up. I can get better rest. I'm just gonna get some sleep now. As I'm saying that in my head, I'm literally talking to myself, and I'm at a kind of an angle like this,
I might probably like a one degree angle. It's not super big by the fire, and i roll over on my back and I'm thinking i can sleep now as I'm doing that, and again, it's right. It almost dawn. I just hear two footsteps right beside me jump backwards, and I'm like, what the hell. I'm like fully awake at this point. My heart's beat out of my chest. Whatever it was like. I was faced towards the fire on my right and I rolled back on my back. Whatever it
was right five feet behind me watching me. I didn't know I was going to roll over. When I rolled over, it jumped backwards. I could hear both feet hit the ground, and it's sitting there and I have my left eye clothes am I right kind of open where I can see the glow of the sun trying to come up, And I'm like thinking in my head, okay, i gotta get my heart to stop beating so fast because I'm pretty sure this thing can hear it. I'm just like, oh my god,
what do I do here? Because it's almost like I could hear it breathing beside me. I can't say that I did, but I felt like it was so close to me because of the footsteps, and I'm like, all right, I gotta come down. I'm going through different scenarios in my head here, Okay, come out here. But like I said, I'm at an angle a little bit. For me to fully roll over to my left, I have to move my entire body over. It's not like a quick movement. And I'm like, if I do that, it's this thing
going to kick me in the face. Does it know that I'm not really asleep? Is it gonna scream at me? I don't know what to do at this point, so I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna calm down and then I'm gonna wait. And I'm trying to open my left die and I'm like, I can't do it. If I open this eye and maybe I can see something in my peripheral and I just can't do it. I had my right eye open, and I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna wait and see if I hear it walking by me and just make sure
I'm not crazy. And I definitely heard it, and I'm sitting there. Probably a minute and a half goes by and I just hear two feet fall. At this point, it's circling by my head even closer to me. Heart's going again. I'm like, what do I do here? Until you're in that moment, you can hear me say that, and you're like, I just would have got up and looked at it and yelled at it.
That's not how it goes. And then in the middle of it was when something's right beside you and has a total advantage standing over you, it's more or less all right. It's freaking out a bit. So I'm like, okay, I gotta come down. I gotta look at this thing. Then I can see the sun's coming out a little bit more. Every time I'm glancing, I can see you get a little brighter. I'm like, okay, my heart's calmed down. And then right as my heart would stop,
it would start walking again, right with shied of me. I don't know if it knew if I was awake or not, but it was hince when my heart would stop being So if that's the when and move and I'm just like, okay, I've got to formulate a plan to look at this because it's really aggravating. Because I need to do this. Like I said, I can't roll to my left directly without just like boom and like my whole body going right. So I rolled back towards my right, towards the fire.
I'm like, this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna roll to the fire. I'm gonna click. I'm just like waking up right, and then I'm gonna try to cock my head over my shoulder as fast as I can and see if if this thing's still there. So this is five minutes of me here in movement and footsteps around me, And again I can hear all three of the guys in the RV. They're like snore and like crazy like bears in there. They snore so loud. So I rolled towards the
fire and I caught my head back. I look over and it's not there's nothing there. Okay, that's weird. I don't understand where it would go. Like when you get there, Brian, when you go out, you'll know where this campfire is, You'll know where the woods are. To get to the main wooded there would be I don't know, fifty feet of walking. Really, you'd have to walk fifty feet in any direction to get to
real cover. I didn't hear it walking anywhere, but I will say the footfalls, the steps were so quiet, I could barely hear them, like when it was walking around me. It was so soft. I really thought, and this is just speculation. Really, it just felt like more of a feminine energy or like kid energy, not like a big dominant male. I just feel like it wasn't I could be wrong. That's when I got the presence of it was that type of energy, but it was super crazy.
Until you're in that moment, you'll you just can't comprehend, like what you're going to do, and it wasnt. I got up and I walked around. I looked on the ground for footprints, because like I said, it rained them that night. I was like, maybe it'll be some kind of footprint. There was nothing like looked everywhere at this point. In six in the morning, I look at my phone at six, I'm like, I don't understand that. It's so bright. It's only six, Like when
does the son come out of out here? And then at that point someone came out to use the bathroom room and he was dead asleep. I don't even telling me anything. He's one of the battomom back inside and went to bed, and I was like, all right, I'll tell him later. So I walk around and I start I can't go to sleep at this point. So I'm just sitting by the fire and I'm walking around and I'm looking
for stuff. I walked some trails. I had put some blue tennis balls out because I've again listening to shows like Yours Attracted to Blue, attracted to play. I'm trying to do different stuff that I've done before. They weren't moved, they never touched the tennis balls. But yeah, I ended up just going in the RV and going to sleep for an hour, and then Todd was like, how was your night? And I started talking. He's like, what that happened? And I was like yeah, like it was
crazy, and so we did a whole video remake of it. And Todd lags on putting stuff out on his page, but you'll probably at some point to see me sell this story on his YouTube channel. But it was nuts, Like it's definitely like life changing, Like I still I guess I'll hear those flops friends. It was it was crazy, like that was really my big experience. And so if you do go out, I'd say it's worth it to try to go out there and spend some time alone. It feels
like they come out more when you're by yourself. Todd's girlfriend actually she goes out there by herself and she seems to get a lot of activity. Like when we were out there, she put some stuff out for gifting. She put a marble out about the size of a half dollar on this tree that's laid over close pretty close to our v actually, and it took the marble. It wasn't a squirrel that took out or anything. It was definitely big enough to where a squirrel would have a hard time with this marble. And
they was gone the next day. But then again and they didn't need it in the apples we put out. I don't know. I think they're they've had some kind of individualistic personality where they just pick and whatever they want to do, and they're like, yah, I'm not gonna take your apples, but oh yeah, take the marble. And she's put out other stuff.
And she had other experiences while we were there out because she didn't feel and like she was out of her car and we were out hiking and we were trying to come back so Todd could tell her by because she had to leave, and like before she left, like she was out in her car and she said this is her I wasn't there. I'm just telling you what she told me that when she was funnished up in her car. She heard someone say hey, and Todd, he'll come up behind you say hey, like
just the mess with you, and she thought it was Todd. She looked around, nobody's there and she said that it mid mimicked his voice and said hey. And then they started making sounds and beating on the trees, and she said she was clapping back, and they were hitting the trees back and like basically doing everything they can to like communicate with her. So she has a lot of good energy and a good experiences out there. But yeah, I didn't get the same amount. But like I said, it was super
cool to me, even though I didn't visually see it. I feel like I could have if I could, just would have done it quicker. But again we were listen to this and say oh that guys, you know I would have done it. No big deal. Like I said, you go out there and you try it, and if you do it, you know you're a bigger man than me. The overall the experience, so that beauty to place all the evidence around there. There's tons of tree breaks, There's
tons of like I said, I found footprints. They all found their own sets of footprints. We found new breaks, We actually found breaks there where you could see the intention from the fingers, like these four figures, there are four main fingers. You can see where they're pushed so hard into some of those trees that it makes intentions when they're breaking it. Which is crazy
because Todd didn't even notice it on some of this stuff. Like so other people said, hey, do you see this, those are like handprints on these trees. He's like, oh, okay, I've never even seen that before. So he's looking for more of like handprints now because he almost had the aspect that they were somehow doing this with some kind of energy because it's too hard to break these trees. But maybe they're not. Maybe they really are using their hands. I don't know. But yeah, that was that
expedition. That was pretty much my bull experience. I wanted to stay out there, and like I tried to sleep out there the last night by myself, and it started pouring literally underneath my thing, like pouring water on me. For an hour and a half. I'm like, all right, I gotta go inside. This isn't gonna give me anything. So luck of the
job. But it was great. I enjoyed it. I got what I thought I needed, and I would go back out there again, but I would probably spend more time, like I said, alone, at least a few nights trying to draw out something even though it's super freaky at night, and being by yourself like I would do it. That would be my recommendation for you. I will definitely give that a try. Man. I really
appreciate you coming on and sharing your experiences. It's always good to talk to you, and I appreciate you being a part of me getting up there. You were an integral part of that. So from me to you, I appreciate what you've done and I appreciate the information. It definitely helps me going into it, and I think it gives people another perspective to look at Todd and those expeditions from And I'll luckily come back with my own in October,
so I'm really looking forward to it. But again, I appreciate you coming on and sharing your stories with us. Ma'am, no problem. It's great. Show's awesome. They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay. I don't want to feel we're all out that. I'm trying to try to try everything. Color back Ride Baby Joy for me, try to stay right now. I'm coming right away, said yessssss ssidi ssbot bout Boot for calling us, say James and