Hey, everybody, this is Less Stride. Yes, yes I know aka Surviving Man, and you're listening to Brian on sasquats odys he guys, and welcome back to Sasquatch. I thank you so much for clicking play. It is Wednesday. I hope you guys have had a great week. We have an amazing guest lined up for you. But as always, I want to start the show by and by the If you've had any counter and you'd like
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I have been talking about and teasing for probably about a month now. On the show, you have heard me talk about this encounter over the last month, because it's honestly one of the weirdest encounters that I have ever heard from anybody that I've ever talked to that have claimed to have had an encounter with Sasquatch. And during the times that I've talked about this, I've made it very clear that I have struggled about putting it out there for you guys to
consume. And I say that simply because the story is or really out there, and it takes a twist and a turn that I certainly did not expect For any of you guys that are listening that have been on the show. You know, I do not talk to you a lot about your encounter before I have you on the show because sort of the secret sauce for me is I want to hear the encounters for the very first time, just like the audience does, so I can have an honest and open dialogue and discussion and
reaction to whatever it is that you're saying. I don't like to make preconceived judgments and notions about what I'm going to hear. That said, I obviously didn't talk to Ryan about what he was going to talk about when he came on the show. I knew you had an encounter. I knew the claim to have seen a sasquatch, and that's as far as the conversation went.
So I was very surprised when he started telling me about his experience. I finally had a conversation a couple of nights ago with Danny and I just said, look, I've been sitting on this episode for probably gosh since April of
this year. In addition to the conversation I had with Danny, I had a conversation with a lot of you guys up at the Smokey Mountain Bigfoot conference and I sort of told you a little bit about this episode, And I ask you, the audience, is this something that you would like to hear on the show? Because it is really out there, and overwhelmingly everybody that
I've talked to said yes. From day one, this show has been built on a foundation of not sitting in judgment of people's experiences and allowing them to share them as they happened or they believed that they happened to them during their
encounters with what they believed to be sasquatch. That's where we are. So all I ask of you is listen to this in its entirety with an open mind, because I do ask him some very questions at the end of this interview, and I think you're going to be interested to hear what he has to say. So with that, I'm gonna let the music play. You guys, get ready to sit back, relax, and listen to the wildest bigfoot story I have ever heard. Her. Folks want to walk up our
guests to the show. It is Ryan from Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. Welcome to the show. Ryan, Thank you for having me. I am glad to have you. So let's get right into it. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing. What got you interested in the subject of sasquatch in the first place. I had a minor I believe, encounter going on a train across Canada when I was about eleven years old. I can't remember which, somewhere between Ontario and probably Alberta. We were going. The train was
moving, I was looking out the window. Me and my sister used to have a competition on trying to see how many animals we could see. And we went past this one thing and there was these two gorilla looking things, only they were wearing sun hats made out of wreaths. Weaved out a wreathe and there was a baby and an adult and I went by within four seconds and I noticed it and I turned to my mom and I go wherever we were. I knew where we were at the time. I said, do
they have a gorilla's earlier or something like that. She said no, and I just basically brushed it off. But when we got to BC, I got my very first book on big Foot. I can't remember who it was by or anything like that, and I've been not super interested ever since, but like, whenever anything came up, I was really like, Okay, this is cool. I wanted to believe they were real. And I know that wasn't your only experience. So was it just that that really got you
interested, That brief encounter, that brief siding. They got you interested, and then you got your first book and started maybe doing some research. How long was it after that until you had your next encounter or your next experience? Oh it had been years. And I really that was the only Brilli book I got on it. But I remember thinking that when I was eleven, and when I saw these things, I always thought big foot was one kind of monster thing that lived in the woods. There wasn't a bunch of
them, there was just one. That's the way I thought. And then when I saw these two gorillas, said beside, they looked like gorillas, but they weren't. I know that. And there was no fancying or anything like that in the baby was playing with a stick. I remember that, and it just got my interest up. Okay, these things are probably real a little bit. And then I had another encounter in a logging camp,
which was another brief, brief experience. I was setting chokers and it was in some burnt stuff, so there was no branches, and you can see by of ways and in amongst the logs, and I for a split second I saw something jump in look at me, and then jump out, and I just wiped my eyes and went, what the hell was that? And that was my second experience. And I never really thought into that either, and so that was my second experience. And then I guess it was nineteen
somewhere between eighty nine ninety. I think it was eighty nine. And when we went out on this expedition with this outward bound course, I was on in a place called Camp Snowdon, which was a prison camp at one time, and it was also a logging camp for a little while too. Now
it was not a prison camp or anything like that when I attended. It was just basically an outward bound course that we were doing, and it had they had computers there and we got to play with them and do little side projects and stuff like that, and there was I got the picture here. I think I sent you the picture. There was six seventy nine of us that went on this expedition was supposed to be a five day for five day
expedition. We had enough food for four or five days where we had drive to this specific location and then canoe or about maybe forty five minutes and then pick out pick out a place to climb up to this desolate log cabin that we were trying to go to. And we set up in the morning. We had all the food and everything, and we got there and we put our kayaks or canoe as a camera member which into the water, got in them, and we started rolling. It was a bit windy out, a
bit brisk, a bit windy either. It wasn't like white caps or anything like that, but the water was a bit rough, no, but not nothing that we couldn't handle. And we started canoeing there. And the first thing I noticed, one of the first things we noticed, there was this great, big, huge excrement floating in the water. It was huge, It was like spe feet long before it be long, and I go, I wonder what it was? A whale? Sea lion. I don't know
what, but that's what we thought. And we just kept canoeing and we canute to this little cove. It had a ridge running up the right hand side was a little tiny cove, no more than probably maybe four thirty forty feet long, and we pulled in and I thought I noticed something move up on the ridge. Now we couldn't if we could climb it, but it was the ridge that was running up. And we chose that area because there was a ridge running all the way up and it would keep us out of
the wind. And like I said, I thought caught something standing on the top of the cliffs and turned and ran into the bushes. I never thought much of that either. I thought, all I could have been a deer, it could have been something else. And so we stashed our canoes and we stashed our oars in a different place, and we started on our track and we got maybe twenty minutes into the trek and we heard a really loud, distinct wood knock and one of the councilors went, oh, coola would
knock. And the councilor was right behind me, and I went, yeah, so it's probably some logger something. He goes Ryan, there's nobody within fifty miles of us. That was that's a sign of big foot. I went big foot cool. So I proceeded on up the path and the first stick I found, they did the one knock and then I did the shave and a haircut by cents or with the stick against a tree, right, I think, And nothing really happened, and we continued on with our hike.
I guess we hiked probably for about an hour and a half maybe two hours, and then one of the councilors looked at two of us stronger guys and said, you guys can run ahead and go find us a place to camp for the night. And we were like okay, And so we go running ahead, and there was really not much to choose from, and then we came to this one spot that was the level, and then I noticed there was through the napete was broken up and you could actually see to another
cliff on the other side. It was like a bee going down the cliffs on both sides, and that was I just walked over to that, and I came around this tree and this tree was just like out of a horror set. It was growing on on top of a rock, and all of
the roots in the ground made a complete, perfect circle. They were going in and out of the ground in a perfect circle around the base of this tree and where the rock was, and then there was hedges going both sides down both sides, and in this circle it was all hard pack and small pebbles. Outside of the ring it was grass and weeds and stuff like that, but inside the circle was perfectly clear and I'm at the perfect place to
count. So I started setting up my camp there, and there was the places where other people could count, and around the tree there was another one of these things that was kind of kidney shaped but pretty big, and the guy that ran up with me chose that as his spot. So I set up my tent in there, and then people started showing up. And first person shows up it was a First Nations friend that was with us, and he said, Brian, I don't think you should camp there. It looks
like an animal's nest. So right away him via a First Nations like a better check this out. So I walked around the entire tree looking for scratch marks for anything like that, and there was absolutely nothing. And then the council at one of the councilor showed up and said, Brian, I don't
think you should sleep there. It looks like an animal's nest. I thought, these people are just jealous because I got the best spot in the world of the camp out of all of them, right, And I set up my camp and I just blew them all off, and we ended up eating dinner. And then it was started to get it with like September or October, so it gets dark a bitler early, and so we all got near a camp near our tents. Now, my tent was isolated from everybody else
because of the hedge around it and the tree and everything like that. If I walked maybe three or four feet ahead, I could see where the other best type thing was and where Colin, one of the guys I was with us, set up his tent. But I had to walk a bit, like maybe three or four yards, maybe five yards to be able to see it. So I'm sitting at my camp. We've ten and we finished eating.
It's getting it's starting to get a bit dark, and one of the councilors comes walking up with his dog and says, what do you think do you think this is some kind of animals? And s, do you think it's smart to sleep here? You know? We just both laughed, right, and then I can't describe the sound that we heard. It was just incredible, the closest thing I've heard to it. I was on a BC
ferry. I was on the top deck when the horn went off, and that's what it really sounded or felt like, was like a whoop followed by a gir at the end, and the councilor looked at me. I looked at him and I went, what was that? And he stumbled on his words and he goes, I think it was an elk, trying to convince himself that it was an elk because I've never heard anything like this, and I'm sure he hadn't either, And so he walked away and I climbed into
my tents. I was just sorting things out, and I was thinking, maybe this wasn't such a good idea to set my tent up here. And then so my time had passed a little bit. I noticed it was getting darker. It was just about maybe fifteen twenty minutes of light left, and I go, I better go out and relieve myself now, because I don't want to go out in the dark and have to do it. Everybody had
pretty much settled into their tents. I noticed this hedge that was probably maybe ten fifteen yards away, and I thought, okay, that's where I'm going to go relieve myself. And I started walking towards it, and all of a sudden, I just got this feeling, don't do it. Something does not feel right. So I stopped halfway and started relieving myself. And as I was relieving myself, I caught some movement out of my eye and I looked up and there was this female big foot. She didn't Egyptian pose,
but with hands bent, I only bent outwards an Egyptian plose. And she was pursing her lips at and going like that. And then her eyes darted off to her right and she pointed, and then she pointed to her right, and it was almost like they were putting on his show. It was putting on a show. And I kept my head down so they really couldn't see my eyes. I looked over to the right when she pointed that way,
and this guy stepped out. He was probably between nine and thirteen tall, looked like Arnold Schwarzenegger times ten on steroids he stepped out into a patch a light that was punching through all the canopy and stuff like that, and I could see him distinctly. And then it was like he dissolved into himself and came down into as like he dislocated every bone in his body and got down into a crawling position and started crawling towards me. After my left.
He was blanking me from my left, and I looked to the left of me, and on the other cliff was another female and she was in the Egyptian pose as well. And then I looked over by Collins tent and there was two more coming up by Collins tent, and then a third one peeled itself off the tree behind my tent. And I know this thing's flanking me, and I'm not looking at it. I'm pretending it's not there. And I'm saying to myself, Ryan, you're about to see a big foot.
These are not bears, they're not animals. You know every animal encounter you've had in the past. Don't smile at it, don't look at it in the eye, don't show any aggression. We met at the tent. For some stupid reason, I zipped and my tent shut. I had to reach down and unzip it, so I didn't even look at the things on the
other side of my tent staring at me. I reached down it seems shake forever, and I unzipped the tent, and then I looked at it, and I gave it a nod, and I dove into the tent, laid on the sleeve being bag, curled up in the fetal position, and expected to die because this thing was huge and it was no problem. They could have picked me up with the tent and threw me off a cliff, no problem at all. This thing was huge. I've seen its face. It
was up close within like on the other side of the tent. I noticed my sense of smell. Didn't really I wasn't thinking about that. I was just worried about everything else. But I do read distinctly, remembering the smelling of a musty cave and a garbage dump, burning and wet dog all mixed together. I did look at this thing. I got a good look at it, and then I, like I said, I dove in my tent, curled in the fetal position and waited to die because I really thought we
were going to die. And I thought I got everybody in the camp killed, because there was like five or six of these things around. We were surrounded, so I didn't have much flash light on or anything like that. Some time had passed, it was dark, and then all of a sudden, I hear the zipper like I did, zip the tent back up when I got back in there, and all of a sudden, I hear the zipper un zipping, and so I grabbed the flashlight, thinking, okay,
a councilor's coming to check on me. And I flicked the flashlight on, and the zipper zipped up to the point where the door was still hanging shut, but the tent was open. Then nothing. I thought, Oh my god, what's going on? And then the biggest hand I've ever seen in my life came in through the door of the tent and started patting down the bottom of the tent. I grabbed my knapsack, squeezed the knapsack, and did a complete check at the bottom of the tent. It's hand went I
was on top of my sleeping bag, still fully dressed. It went down both sides of me with this hand what I figured was checking for guns, and then then it gently tapped me on the waist. It just gently tapped me, and the hand disappeared. And at that point it was a bit of relief, because if it wanted to kill me, I thought it would have just grabbed me, threw me, pulled me out of the tent, threw me off a cliff, and so a couple more and it had passed
the flashlights on. Now I can see, and I'm still nervous, of course, and then all of a sudden, this little tiny hand comes underneath the door of the tent and starts mimicking what the big hand it did, and it looks so cute and everything, and it was like waving his hand to come here, like it was laying on the bottom of the tant, and it was like coaxing me touch its hand kind of, and so I did. I can't remember if I gave it the brother handshake or if I
tickled his hand, but it did something. And then the hand disappeared. And then probably two minutes later, this what I thought at the time, when was a baby bigfoot got I believe it got knocked into the tent, because it just stumbled into the tent and it started pointing at me. And it was doing the back and forth on both legs, saying pointing at me, saying stuff and gibberish, and it was the cutest thing in the world.
And I just basically did what I did with the big one. I just know I did, and gave him a note because it looked like he wanted to get aggressive. And then after I did that, he settled down and he reached his hand out. We shook hands, and then we patted each other on the back, got closer. He started hugging me, and
then I thought he was trying to kiss me. He was going to try to kiss me, and it was so cute that I just did on the cheek and while they gave me the weirdest look, I think because what he wanted to do was touch my hair and smell it. Then all of a sudden, there was a gasp from outside. I guess they noticed that this I thought, what like I thought at the time, was a baby big
but there was a bunch of gaps coming from outside. Of course, the tent door flew open then, but I couldn't see much because it was dark out. I could see shadows, that was about it, and this baby was in there and it was in my arms at this point. It stunk like high heaven. It's the only one that other than the big guy,
that had any kind of smell. It really stunk. But I I wasn't noticing at the time because I was aware of what was going on that I don't think I really cared about any kind of smell or anything like that. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch otessee right back after these messages. So then the baby big point, which i'll call it for now until we get to the point where I found out what it was, grabbed a strand of my hair standing beside me, grabbed a strand of my hair and held it up and
gently. He just held up some of my hair and then said something in gibrous to all the ones that were out atside of the tent, and they all started laughing. What I thought it was basically just a blonde joke he was telling or something like that. Then what happened, Oh, two young adolescent females came into my tent and they knelt down. They didn't nail the
squatted. They squatted down on one side of the tent. And I'm playing with the baby by now and he's playing with my hair, and eventually I just handed him off to one of the adolescents, and the adolescents both they sat there for a few minutes, and then this other female came in and she was probably about six foot too. Maybe can't tell because she was in the tent, but I knew she was pretty tall and lean and lanky.
It's three signed. She can went guns, you got any guns and stuff like that, and I'm like, no, no guns, and then she the lessons left with what I thought was in baby. The female was there for a few minutes and we just signed to each other, and then she grabbed me by both risks gently and saying stay here and don't go tell the others what's going on. And they hadn't killed me. I was having her poor with them. I wasn't afraid anymore. I was more excited of what
was happening. And you could tell that all of the all these creatures were old. The females hadn't left. After that, I forgot because the ad because they all wanted to touch my hair, all of them, they just and I went sure, I gave them. They all wanted to touch and smell my hair. And you to tell they were all excited, and the female that showed up after they left her as really you could tell she was excited. So he grabbed me by both risks really gently said stay here and
shifted her eyes. Don't go tell the others what's going on. And I'm like okay, So she left. I was finally relieved because I went from thinking I was going to die too maybe I'm not going to die after all. And I found that as an opportunity to have a cigarette because it was too afraid to anytime before that. So I had a smoke, and probably three or four minutes after the smoke, the female came back with another female. She had some kind of hide rolled up. She came in the tent
with the other female and we both acknowledged each other. I'm serious. I was into music. I've been in a lot of bands and stuff like that, and I've dated a lot really gorgeous women, strippers and models and so forth. But this other female was draw dead gorgeous. Sheoked like a mixture
of Angelina Jolie and Ray John Chong. She was absolutely I'm serious at tan Easily she came into the tent with the other female and she had this hide with her rolled out the hide with her back turned to me, and so I couldn't see the hide, and she was doing stuff, and me and the other female were just googling each other, like just looking at each other and smiling and stuff like that. She laid out another hide and put three things on each side, like on three things on exact same things on both
sides of the hide mined up. There was a dried up mushroom. I can't remember which order they ran. There was a dried up mushroom. There was something that looked like logan berries, only they were black. Then there was a leaf with some kind of brown powder on it. There was a timing between them. They showed me how to do it, and he had to eat the vine with the berries on it and the powder. You had to roll up to the leaf and eat that. The female that brought the
medicine bag said goodbye, and she left me with the other female. And the other female was just going probably fifteen maybe twenty minutes, I'm not sure, and she just kept on footing her hand up weight, and then all of a sudden, it was like the whole universe opened up. There was a diorama between the both of us and three D of our solar system, and it was so cool. And then I'm staring at this and then all of a sudden, this voice comes at an or and she goes, we
have names. That was the very first thing I heard. And then I'm like, oh, wow, what's your name? And she said, I'm Kara of the daughter of Gar and Mira. So I didn't induced myself by my mom's name and my dad's name, and I'm from Victoria, British Columbia. When I said Victoria brillly, she goes, oh, do you know
the doctor And I'm like, no, idea what you're talking about. And she said his name and it sounded really funny coming out of her, doctor Bender Nigel, and I said no, I don't, and she goes, if you ever run into him, tell him about us. And I didn't know. Back then, I didn't know doctor Bender Nikol. I didn't know anything about him or anything like that. And then after that we started talking. She asked us why we were there, and I said we were there.
She goes, are you did you come here to hunt fish or prospect and I'm like, nope, we're only here to enjoy nature and she loved that, and she goes, I knew you were a good one when you pulled up on the beach and I respond got a compliments in there, and then we talked about everything and everything I can know, stuff I can remember. I asked them about the wood knock and they said that wasn't warning to all the others that there was intruders coming. And I asked about I can't
so much stuff that I asked her. I asked about religion, and I asked about what they do for entertainment. I will be out there salon. I asked them about what they eat at the beginning shure, I go, are you going to kill and eat us? And if she laughed and she goes, no, she reassured me, no, we're not going to do that. And beside you're too salty. Yeah, we talked about everything, religion. I asked about gar that's the name. I asked the names of
them. I said, first of all, it was the baby, and she said that was Tack about ta I believe Tak and that he was Bukus. At the time, I thought that may just meant baby, so I assumed it was a baby big foot. Apparently the bucosts are something that hang out with the big Foot. And it was just a little guy, really super cute. It looked like I just a miniature, three foot tall human. And then I asked about Gar and she said, oh, the big guy. Said what about the big guy? And she goes, oh,
Gar, Gar was really impressed with the way you handled yourself. She said, We've seen a lot of people react to Gar before. She said he one time he swam up to a boat and he thought they were being too greedy and taking too much fish, and he swam up and got on the boat, and everybody jumped off the boat and stuff like that. And then she showed me another time where a guy ran into him and he looked at
Gard. He urinated in his pants and he turned around. Oh, I should tell you about of the things that we ate, because I asked about that. I asked about what we ate? What was that all about? And like it had just opened up this whole world where we were communicating, because they did speak their own language before they fed me that they were talking and it was weird, gibberish kind of stuff. And so I asked about
what we ate and she goes, Oh, that's what we give. We feed that to large animals and we can communicate with them, and so we always know where the animals are. And she said that attack disappeared a lot times and they wanted to find them, and so they would feed this to the animals and ask if they had seen tack, and they'd find Tack up in the mountains playing with the stick, talking to a bird or something like that. So that's what they fed me. And I asked about religion.
She said that Jesus was real and that guard talks about them all the time. I asked about Yeah, what they eat? They eat A lot of seafood, a lot of seaweed. They eat all the fruits and nuts and stuff like that, but a lot of seaweed, certain kinds of seaweed, and a shellfish and stuff like that. She said, they rarely eat meat. They do eat meat. They have one gathering every year under a full moon in a certain spot. They will eat meat on that occasion, but
majority of the time they do not eat meat at all. What else, Oh, I asked about the First the First Nations people. She brought it up. She said they made really sad that they used to be trading partners. They used to trade in the past, but then something happened where they got excused of doing something that they didn't do. They were just at the right place at the right time, and they were the wrong time, and they got accused of doing something. They had had falling out with the First
Nations people. And that's what she said, not me. I'm not saying. I don't I don't know what to say about that. Yeah, okay. And then what else did we talk about? Oh, we talked about when we talked about Guar. She told me that she showed me was remote viewing on this whatever it is. They fed me. You could show things from your past, no problem, just like watching a video. I asked
about Guar. When I asked about Gar, she said he was. She showed me all these kind of pods falling on fire through the sky, and she said that they had been sent here, that Guard had been sent here with others to plant this first forest. She showed me the earth where some of these pods were falling from the sky and some were already landed, and these people were getting out. She said that they were here to plant and
tend the first tree, plant the forest and look after the earth. And she showed me the earth and at that point it was just a big molting. I could see molten rock everywhere and geysers and stuff like that. And then she goes they spent a lot of time in Egypt. She actually showed me with him walking with people in the distance by the pyramids, and the pyramids were all dug. They're buried now. Compared to what I saw. There was ramps and stuff like that. They showed me Garonmira walking with people
on one of these ramps. And this is through another person's another big foot's eyes. If you see something like she brought up. I never heard of eight Canyon. I probably heard about it over the years, but I just never really heard the full story or anything until recently until she told me too. She told me that she goes to eight Canyon. She brought up eight Canyon and she showed me where they had shot They had shot this big foot off of a cliff and he sell off the cliff and there pretended that he
was dead. And then she showed me through her revolte viewing through another big food's eyes, that he eventually flipped over and got into the spider crawl and crawled away. Yeah, there's just so much stuff that I'm leaving out, and there's so much that happened. Eventually we came to a point where there was a low in the conversation. She was now kind of stretched out on my sleeping bag, just her lake stretched out and I could see the bottom of her feet, and I blurted out, we call you big foot.
And she didn't know what to make of it, and she started laughing and I said, no, that's what we call you your feet or fine, and I said, I explained to her why we call it big before we find your foot prints everywhere and blah blah, bah blah, and then she we goold her toes and she giggled a bit. Mattswomen. We fell into each other's arms and we ended up doing the deed. And I would not have done that if I thought she was any kind of animal or ape.
They were very human, extremely human. So we did the deed. I guess. Morning came. I woke up and I snuggled up to her and I crawled up and I was staring at her face and she opened her eyes. We looked into each other's eyes and she gave me a big smile, and then all of a sudden she got to look like something was wrong. I know that look, and I said, what's wrong? She goes Gar had asked her to get one of her girls to seduce me and get my
seed. And she reassured me that she would not have done this if she didn't like me or anything like that. She really liked me, and blah blah blah blah blah. And then all of sudden she got another look like my parents are home. I know that look too, and she got up and rambled out of the tent, and I wanted to go after her, and I went to get up, and I just got drained of every bit of energy I had, and I fell back down and fell back to sleep,
which felt like about fifteen minutes. And that's when I felt like a fifteen minutes. And then I got woken up by the one of the counselors. They sounded really mad for some reason. Ryan get up, and I basically told him to yeah, And I eventually got up, probably about fifteen minutes after that. Nobody was talking. Everybody looked worried. When I got over there, the first thing I did is I walked. I didn't remember anything from the night before, absolutely not a thing of what happened during the
night. And I walked over to the First Nations guy that was with us, and I said, did you hear that wallop last night when we were all going to bed? And he goes, yeah, and I go the counsel over there thinks that it was an elk? What do you think? And he just shook and said sasquatch. And I thought, I thought so. And meanwhile, like I said, I'd not remember anything in the night before except that I stunt at like bo, the worst bo you ever smelled
in your life. And I never get bo. I really cleaningless conecious, and I have my foods a safe and I took in our RCA course to look after old people, so I'm really clean person and I never smell like that. And it was it was hard to describe the smell and just breaked like bad bo. That the worst bo you could ever think of, mixed with wet dog, mixed with fish and everything else. It was the worst
smell in the world. And so I gave myself a spongebass put the T shirt that I was wearing into a plastic bag and changed and like I said, I did washed down. And then when I got to the fire, they were deciding whether or not, and I noticed the dog was all dish give everybody looked disheveled, like they hadn't slapped her. And even though the dog and then they were trying. We were trying to decide whether to go back right then and there or continue on our day hike and then just set
up our town somewhere as else. So what we decided to carry on and do the hike. I was designated to carry the food first, and we're going to stash all our gear, which we did, and we stashed all our gear, and I'm carrying the food and we're hiking up to this remote cabin up in the middle of no All of a sudden, I'm getting picked off with pebbles. I'm getting these pebbles thrown at me and it's getting really irritating, like they're bouncing off my pack, sack, off my head,
off my shoulders. And so finally there was a counselor behind me. I turned around to say, could you tell the whoever's throwing the rocks to stop? And she seemed like it hit me in the chest hit the tree and then hit her and then she yelled out, whoever's throwing the rocks stopped throwing the rocks, and they stopped. So we carried on and we started carrying
on, and then it was these little miniature pine cones. All of a sudden, I'm getting picked off with these little tiny pine cones, lots of them too, and some of them are sticking in my hair and stuff like that, and I started complaining about it. One of the counselors. The counselor behind me said, oh, they're just falling from the canopy. And I went to know they're not. They're coming at me horizontally, not vertically,
and they're sticking eye. Decide to leave them in my hair, and then she said, okay, we're going to relieve you of the food, and you and me and the First Nations guy were given permission to run ahead, but just stop when we got to the snowlide. And so we started jogging and we're jogging and I could see things out of the corner of my eye running through the bush and they just did not look right and that, but I just rowed them off again. And we came to this little corner,
and you couldn't really see that. It was two great, big, huge boulders where a river had been or a stream, i should say. And we were out of the canopy now and it was all these little probably two inch breathes. There's something that stood about six feet tall, probably seven feet tall, and it was like thick. You couldn't see two inches in there, but you can see about maybe twelve inches into this, and it
was just a mess. And then there was these two rocks, and me and the First Nations guy both sat on a rock and prepared to roll ourselves a cigarette. Well, we're sitting there, and then all of a sudden, off my forehead one of those miniature pine cones hits me right in the forehead, and then we both heard a woman giggle, I'm going and left the hell was that? And then off to the distance, maybe a minute later, we could hear voices that sounded like they were Swedish or some foreign
country or something like that and talking. So we decided to go back and meet up with everybody and ask if they see the Swedish people. So we ran back and we got to the cup to our counselors, and I asked, did you see the Swedish people? Were the Swedish people that went by at that point, the female it was a female counselor that said, Ryan, there's nobody within fifty miles of us, which I could really believe because
there was nothing there. It's a carmana valley. They were hiking up the side of this mountain and there was nothing within fifteen mile radius of us. There was no boats out of the water anything like that when we pulled up. So I said, did you see the Swedish people or something like that, and she just lost it. Nobody within fifty miles. And so we carried on and we got up to our destination and we had lunch, and we sed a bunch of whiskey jacks that were eating right out of our hand.
And I still had these pine cones in my hair and they were starting to get irritating. So I pulled them out, and I was determined to keep them, but I didn't want to take my pack black off to put them someplace safe, so I just slid them in my front pocket. They ended up getting crushed or else I would probably still have those today. And at this lunch we decided that we weren't going to stay that we were going to go back, and things that happened along the way back just reinforce that
we get the hell out of there. We hiked back down to where we stashed the equipment. None of it was where it was supposed to be, not even near where they're supposed to be. And me and the First Nations guy had hidden our backpacks side by side in this little gully, in this bush, and you couldn't either them or anything like that. We came back, the gears all over the place. My knapsack and the First Nations guide knapsack were up against a tree, one on top of the other, like
the top of one knapsack at the bottom of the other. They were standing up against a tree. And I had a trail mix which we were sped to the whiskey Jackson had a great big bag of it, and I had put some I put probably two handfuls in a bag and put a twist tie on it and put it in the front pocket. But the bag was hanging out when I stashed we got our knapsacks, I pulled that bag out.
It was completely empty. There was no holes in the bag, and the twist tie had been put back on, which I thought was really strange, and all our gears messed up, and so everybody's going, what did this? What do you think did this? And one of the councilors went bare and I went, no, big foot, come on right. So we decided, okay, let's get down to We'll get down to the beach and we'll have a meal and then we'll just go home and stay for more sasquatch
out to sea Wall right back after these messages. So we're heading back down to the beach. A couple guys ran ahead. We were probably getting really close to the beach, and they ran ahead to go get the canoes ready or something, and all of a sudden they come running back and they're both pale white, and they're going up, you gotta see this, you gotta see this, you gotta see this, you gotta see this. And we
go all go running down to the beach. And I get to the beach and I'm looking out and I don't see anything, and I'm like what. They go turn around and look up in the trees, and I turned around and looked up in the trees and there's two of our canoes jammed into the tree, one about probably twenty feet twenty five feet up and the other one probably about ten feet jammed into the tree. And then one canoe is off
to it. When I'm facing the trees, one canoe was off to the left on the little ridge that was there sideways, but there was a path behind you. I didn't know that until I went to check. Butay, So we gather all and get on the beach. We look up and we go. I'm waiting for people to come out and start saying, Aha, the joke's on you here. There's a party or something like that I was expecting, and then I was like Then one of the guys went to look
for the oars and he could not but they weren't there. They weren't where there where he stashed them. And that's when I got really scared. That was the first time, and I think rather than the night what I didn't remember the night before, but that was the first time I actually really got scared knowing what was going on. We pulled the canoes out of the trees. We eventually did find the oars, and I just have this urge to
make a knock. I don't know why, but I am. One of the counselors caught me and he said, okay, everybody, get in your canoes, row a boat maybe ten yards out, fifteen yards out, and form a semicircle towards the beach. And we did. And then he says, okay, now let's all thank the forest we're not devouring us. And
we're all going thank you, thank you. Were banging our paddles and everything like that and thank you, thank you, thank you, and me not remembering what went on the night before, and then calling one of the guys that was with us yelled up, thank you for not eating us. And we all burst out in the laughter and stuff like that. And the whole ride back to the camp, nobody said a word, but I went over and over in my mind everything that happened, except I did not remember what
happened that night. It wasn't until we got back to camp. It was late and late at night. We had gone out behind a wood. She had to have a smoke, and I heard the dog barking, and the dog had barked while I was with the female, and I was almost like she got worried of was like it was coming out of whatever they fed me or something like that. But the dog gave me the flashback of a little bit of what happened, and I couldn't tell anybody. There was no way
I could tell anybody there what happened to me in that tent. And then I remember doing my laundry and that T shirt. I pulled it onto the bag and it's stunk, and I washed it three times and I could not get the smell out of it. But I wanted to keep that T shirt because I was really sentimental. And then after the third time I pulled it out, I went, well, I guess this is just part of the of knowing what I know now, and that nobody ever has to know this.
And I remember folding the T shirt up and then putting it in the garbage. I left a lot of stuff out. There's so much that went on. I know I'm leaving a lot out. A lot of this I didn't remember until when COVID hit. My mom was in the going through chemo and COVID had hit. We gone through shut down, and the guy upstairs from me in the end my apartment here had a stroke and he refused to go to the hospital, and he was up there for three months my places.
I live in a drum upstairs as hardwood floors, and he had to drag He was dragging his chair across the hardwood floor three or four or five o'clock in the morning every night. So I was not getting sleep. I was giving me PTSD. I was having total PSD thing. I was trying to contact another big Foot podcast, like I wrote out on my phone that encounter probably three times. But before that, I was trying to send them. I had an encounter worth the wrolverine and it sounded like one of the
encounters that somebody had with a big foot. But we had an encounter in the log ENCOUMP with wolverine where it attacked our Jimmy and I kept writing this out and sending it and I'm not knowing, like I never sent an email before or anything like that. I'm not technically savvy. I don't have cable, han't had it since it was digital. I don't have internet. This is the only thing I got as wife by and I've learned to use that a bit. Let me ask you a couple of questions, because there's a
lot to unpack there. There's people going to be listening to this go on. Holy shit. Yeah, let me try to address some of the holy shit moments that we've had here. Let's look back to the initial sighting, when you first saw these things and you saw the one that was I believe you said it was guard that was nine to thirteen feet tall. Let's do some as best you can. Give us some descriptions, physical descriptions of what
you saw. Let's start with him that's huge. Nine to thirteen feet is huge, and you said, this guy that looked like Arnold towards Enegger. Give us a description of the face, the bodies, the hair, what were you looking at? And give us a sort of paint the picture so we can see in our minds what you experienced that night. Okay, Yeah, he stepped out. He stepped out, and like I said, there was a hole in the canopy and it was enough that I could see his
full body from the distance. He looked, like I said, on Schwarzenegger at times ten you couldn't really see the features of his face that much, but I could make out his body. He was covered in a reddish brown hair, and like I said, he dislocated it almost like he caved in on himself to get into a squatting position and started doing the spider walk. Now, I had probably three four years ago. I was with a girlfriend
under a bridge and this bat. We were probably six feet up on this cement concreet and they were like steps, and this bat was crawling along the bottom. When I had my light on it, I'm watching it on my cool and then the spider came running out, ran right into its nose, and it was the creepiest thing I've ever seen in my life. But the way the bat walked from up above, I've seen it walking on it like it was crawling on the cement. The way it walked it was the way
this way gar walk, the way the legs moved. But I also see why people would say it looks like a spider, because they tuck their neck in and their bottoms stick out, and they really looked like a four leged spider coming at you. And it just smoothed and fluid. It was crawling towards me and my tent, and we met at the tent when I came face to face with it, Like I said, I didn't want to look at it at first. I only looked at it when I reached down to
grabbed the zipper, and it looked its face was gun metal gray. Its neck was stucked in, but it did eventually come out. We have pointy ears, black lips. I can't remember the color of the eyes. It had big teeth. I remember that. And then, like I said, my initial thought when I see that's not what a big foot supposed to look like. The other ones looked like them, but this one did not look He had no hair on his head. He was tolely bald. There is
a picture by bors Belagio. I believe it's he's like a prepresentor he does fantasy pictures. There's a kna and picture he did of it's all in red. It's got a demon standing in fire. The face of that demon, amongst the horns is supposest thing that I've seen that looks like guard was moved from him to the females that were in your cand Was it the same thing? Were they the quintessential what we picture when we think like the Patty bigfoots.
Can you give us a description of what they look like? Yeah? But the thing is, when you're up close to them, they do not look like apes at all. They look very human and they are they act human too extremely. I think they're more you bald than being able to live out. There was no fire and stuff in with what happened with my hair. It leads me to believe like they were all really interested in my hair.
There's a part of the Bible that I didn't find out about until after all this had happened, that they say, don't go into the woods of long Air, you'll attract the nephelum. I believe that's what Gar was. I don't believe all of them are. I think they interbred with humans as well, because they're the only one that didn't look human ish was Gar. His face did look human, but deemon very scary. Oh and the females
I did ask Kara, she did say their names. Akara. I asked her because she did a pull her hair up, and they do that. The reason they do that is one to distinguish their tribe from others. And also for Kamouth was because she said, if you look at the tops of trees, was their hair up like that? They blend in a lot easier. And their hair wasn't that way, they wouldn't blend in as well. Was the trees who talks in the trees and stuff like that. So they
do that for those two reasons. That's what she told me. Anyways, as far as the other people in the camp, I know, you guys were supposed to be out there for four or five days, and you only lasted for the one night. The morning that you woke up, you could tell something that was going on. Did you ever have a conversation with folks? Did anybody else see these things? Did they just hear things? After that trip back? Nobody mentioned this whatsoever. Absolutely not say oh, except
when we got back to count that night. Our counselor Teresa, who I wish I could get old of. I haven't seen any of these poplute years except for one person that lives here. But she took pictures of the nest I slept in. She's got pictures of it. She did send me that picture of or she did give me that picture of everybody that was there on the encounter that I believe was taken at the end of our encounter when we were going back. And does she have taking picts to the nest Since you're
supposed to give me fictions of that, I never did get them. I'm calling it a nest. I don't know if it was a nest or some kind of poor hoole or I have no idea what it was, but it was. It looked like out of a horror movie. Really did. Was the way the tree was growing on top of the rock, and it was the way that it was shaped. It looked like a doorway. And then this this circular roots going in and out of the ground like a snake,
made a perfect circle. Another thing is it rained during the night and some parts of the morning, and my tent and the other tent that was in the other one absolutely perfectly dry, not a drop of rain on them, and every everybody else got soaked. You had this experience, yeah, obviously nobody's talking about it. Did you eventually get to a point where you were telling your story other than now? Obviously? Did you tell your story to
anybody else before now? If so, what was the reaction of the people that you shared your experience with. I just buried it the encounter after I fold it up, that I go nobody ever has to know this because I never thought and we like the spider walk and all this crazy stuff going on, I never thought anybody would ever believe me ever, so I just buried it. I buried it so deep that I'd forgotten about it. What got
me to the point where i'd started talking about it. I'd like, over the years, I did remember what happened, and i'd bring it up. Maybe if somebody was talking about Bigfoot, i'd talk. I'd tell them about the tree knock and the canoes and the tree. But I never mentioned anything ever about what happened that night, so I only remembered parts of it. I buried it. And it was to the point where there was this girl
I was working in a warehouse. She's the one that got me to find out about podcasts about bigfoot podcasts, and she listens to them quite often, and so I downloaded a few and I was listening to them, and I knew she was in the Bigfoot. And I'd picked up this poster and I don't know why, but it's from a Bigfoot movie from I think the seventies, and it said big Foot mate with anything, and I thought it was funny for some reason, and I couldn't figure out why, and so I
gave her that poster, like I knew she was a huge Bigfoot, and I also gave her a copy of I order Legends of Boggy Creek. I gave her a copy of that as well, and I still didn't remember at that point, like I remember parts of it, but it was not until I was sitting there. I had just written out for the third time, and I don't know how many times I sent my encounter out to two different big foot podcasts. All of a sudden it hit me, Oh no,
it was the Wolverine one. I was sending this to Wolverine one. They don't want to hear about Wolverine about a wolverine encounter. This is a big Foot podcast. And then and then it hit me. It was like, oh my god, I had a big foot encounter. I didn't hit me until that moment. And I went diving for my photo album and I pulled out the picture and I was going through PTSD. Was my mom passing away? She passed away two aprils ago. I'm ready to talk about this now.
I had to accept it myself before I could even talk about it. And like I said, i'd never except for writing out to those two Bigfoot podcasts, of writing out the whole accounter, which drove me nuts, try to write out an essay on a phone and try to send an email, which I didn't even know how to do. And I probably sent an email to them about the wolverine about five times, and I probably sent the Bigfoot
one about three or four times. But I kept on getting these messages back message not sent and something like that, probably because they were too long or something. I don't know, but I just started remembering more and more going through that PTSD and remembering at that time. I remember because I wanted to remember. I didn't want to remember before because I didn't think I had to
for any reason. That was my secret. I knew something that nobody else knew, and I thought that was really cool and I didn't have to talk about it. But like I said, I just brought up the basics of it if it ever came out. This is the first time I finally get the story it's necessarily encounter out. Yeah, it's such a relief to be able to do this because I realized now my own mortality after seeing what my mom went through. I realized my own mortality. And I'm listening to all
these big Foot podcasts. It's so frustrating knowing what I know and then listening to us because sometimes you guys are so dead on stuff and another thing intimes it's like you couldn't be too so far away from what's going on with these things or these people. I should say, let's talk about the elephant in the room, right, because people are going to listen to this, and I can tell you now, there's gonna be a lot of people that listen
to this and say, Ryan is on batshit crazy. None of that happened, It's all made up. Let's talk a little bit about that. Let's address that because and it's a fair question, right, I'm actually putting together a show and I want to bring on a mental health expert that listen to the show. She's from the UK, because that's come up several times on the show over the last couple of months. Some of the interviews that I've aired, people reach out to me and say, look, dude, you
were in law enforcement for sixteen years. As you were a cop, you got to know that person was crazy. And my answer to that is no, I don't know that, right, So there are going to be people who say that about you and your story. So this is your time to talk about that, and let's talk a little bit about the memory thing, because it's not something that you immediately remembered. So a lot of people are going to point to that and say, what if you dreamed it? What
if it was a dream? Could it have been something? Yeah, I thought about that. Yeah, people are going to think it was a lucid dream. I've had lucid dreams and I love them. I love them. This was not I actually pinched myself three or four times, especially after the hand came in the tent. I go, this can't be real. This is like something out of Wall of Disney or something. And I'm pinching myself and I'm nope, I'm awake, I'm alive, I'm breathing. This is
not a dream. Like I said, I've had some really cool elucid dreams where I know this was not a dream. That thing that obsessed me is that nobody knows what went on that camp but me and I wish somebody. I don't know because I haven't talked to any of the people on our accounter. I know they know something happened. They all know that. That's my only proof of anything is and it was a camp that I tried to look
it up before the show. I'm trying to find it because there was a log book and the counselor yelled out that night they usually right in Okay Carmena Valley trip, and what happened? She yelled out, I'm putting down big Foot Bigfoot trip. And so there is a log book with something written in it from this camp that I went to, Camp Snowden, and I'm trying to hunt that down. And it's like that camp disappeared from the face of the era. Let's been thirty over thirty years, so I can understand.
But I was trying to find a phone number to the camp or anything like that. There's the road still there, It's called Camp Snowden Road, but I can't find the camp anywhere, or I don't know how to get a hold of the other people in the picture. I think my best bet is to get ahold of Teresa. She's got the pictures. But yeah, as far as that, I do suffer from a PTSD and depression. Other than that, I think my mental everybody's mental health is pretty messed up over COVID
being locked up and stuff like that. I think it's brought in a lot of people's issues thought to the surface a lot more. But I'm not crazy. I'm not crazy. This really happened. I'll give you the last word. You've now told your story and its entirety, and it's out there in the zeitgeist for everybody to digest, and people are going to make up their own minds about what they believe and what they don't. What is it that
you want out of this situation? What do you want to convey to people about your story and maybe just in general about Sasquatch that brought you on to tell your story today. What's the final word that you want people to understand about you, your situation and Sasquatch. I came to the decision that this is important. I don't want anything out of it. I just want my story out there, so all the big community has a little bit knowledge of
what these people are. And she even said they were people. When she said we're from the I had to pronounce it a couple times. There's a click in there. It was unical people, she said, people, And I want them to know they're not apes and there they can communicate with us they have in the past with other people. She said, I just want people to know what's out there. They're out there, and I believe that the Nephelum, I know, the bigger ones gar it was. I believe
Nephelum, and they're here, They're back. That's important to get out there to the community and that there's I would like to go back and see the nest again and go back to that area. But other than that, I really don't want anything out of there s except to get the encounter up there. I don't want notoriety. I'm not looking for attention. When I was trying to get ahold of big Foot chronicles, I got this all I did, and I sent them the encounter about three or four types. I got
this fortune cookie that said truth is always the best policy. And ever since then, that's all I've thought of when I think about this encounter, and that's all I want to do is get it out there so the big community knows and people know and hopefully they don't want to shoot these things and cut their heads off. Yes, they're scary, they're big, scary creatures, but that's their weapon. They're intimidating, very intimidating. Like I said,
they he padded down my tent for guns. One of the first things out of her mouth was do you have any guns? But out of contradiction, I never called her for on it. You can't kill us with guns, and I never called her on that. I wish I would have at one point, I really do. I don't understand it, but yeah, I just want people to know, Dan, please don't kill these at least these ones up here in the northwest here, don't cut their heads off. There's
got to be other ways of proving these things exist. The only one thing that I don't really want out of this encounter or anything, is I would like to go back and see that nest again and go back there. Even though it scares the hell it of me to go back there, I still wanted just to prove to myself that the nest is still there. They may have blogged it by now, I don't know. I have no idea, and like I said, I don't even know if it was a nest.
I apologize to her when we were talking that I set up my tent here and right in the middle of your nest, and that she just giggled and she never said anything. Yeah, but at the contradiction, I never called her on that you can't kill us with guns. Then why were you pat me down? Why why did the guns come up like three or four times? Do you have guns? Do you have guns? It's definitely interesting.
I definitely appreciate you sharing your story. If you ever do get in contact with this Teresa lady and you do get the picture that she took of where you said it you're saying, I'd love for you to send it to us, and I'd love to be able to post it because I know people are gonna want to see that. Yeah, maybe she'll see this podcastle or something, hopefully and we can get a hold of it. I can get ahold of her and anybody that was on this accounter, Dan Don Ray, I
can phone Ray. Ray's not that good because when we did this expedition, he had a bumped to knee and that's all he was calling. He wasn't he wasn't aware of stuff that was going on around him. He was so much pain, that's all. We were focused on his knee. And that's
the only person that I can really get a hold out of. All the people, and I'm sure from maybe a couple passed on by dollars, So if they if any of you see this video, please try to get a hold of me here in Victoria. There you go, Ryan, your story's out there. Man. I appreciate you coming on. It's been fascinating and I appreciate you coming on and sharing your experience. Thank you so much for letting me get this out. I really appreciate it. I wanted people to
know that these are people, at least the smaller ones are. They're people, They talk, they have emotions. Yeah, they're just they're weapons, intimidation and scariness and ours and guns. From what she said, ninety percent of their encounters with humans, they're always getting shot at. That might have something to do with why they. I don't know the way we hunt. They don't respect the way we hunt with guns. They say, you don't
gotta go home, but you can't stay here. I don't want to be world time, job, time, everything joy for me to stay right, to call it right away, don't back down, R come down, James MS. James has used James