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Today, everybody, this is Less Striding. Yes, yes, I know aka Surviving Man and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatchatus. You guys are welcome back to Sasquatchis. Thank you so much for being with us for the show. It is Friday. I hope you guys are having for a week. You have an amazing guest lined up. But before we get there, I want to invite you. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email. You can get me a Brian
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we've got a great guest lined up. We've got Johnny two Bears from my old home state of Georgia, and Johnny is here to share some of his personal experiences with Sasquatch and that includes a couple of sightings of these things and we get into all kinds of things as far as bigfoot research, and he tells some other amazing stories from people that he's been out in the woods with But I'll let Johnny tell you all about that in just a minute,
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guests to the show. It is Johnny two Bears from Georgio. Welcome to the show man. Thanks for having Yeah, it's my pleasure. I'm glad to have you. I've been looking forward to this conversation. So let's get right into us. Talk about this bigfoot thing. First and foremost, the most people's mind is when you talk to anybody about bigfoot is what in the
world got you interested in the subject to begin with. Oh man, it was pretty much forced on me. I live, like you said in Georgia, kind of pretty semi rule close to about fifty minutes outside of Atlanta. Our house if you imagine a horseshoe. We live off the main road about a quarter of a mile and then at the end of that gravel road is three houses in like a horseshoe, and then behind us is about I think
it's around twenty five thousand acre wildlife management area. I didn't grow up having any interest in the subject about the only the only thing for when I was a kid is I remember one of the first movies that I could rent on my own was Boggy Creek. But I just thought that was fictitious. I remember it scaring the tar out of me as a kid, But I don't know what my father was thinking. But anyway, I had no experience. I had one guy that I worked with that talked about it because he saw
one. I'm a veteran Marine Corps and one of my buddies I worked with he was in the Army, and he talked about being in boot camp on Firewatch and watching a sasquatch walk up through the window and look up in the window and then walk off. And I completely believed him. You know, he wasn't the type of guy to make up stuff like that, and I
was like, wow, that's crazy. Well, fast forward to about around probably twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, we started having very strange activity around my property and around my neighbor's house, and it was stuff like it actually really seemed personal when it came to them. They had a couple of teenagers that lived there, So my initial reaction when all this stuff was going on. They'd have like something hitting the side of the house. They'd have rocks and
sticks thrown at the house. One of the teenagers actually had thrown at him while he was walking down the driveway with another family member, and I would something would happen over there, and there'd be a bunch of commotion and I would run over there and we'd all try to figure out what was going on. And first I was like, well, it's gotta be kids, it's gotta be they ticked somebody off in neighborhood up the street that they go to
school with, and then they're just getting harassed or something. Yeah, But then things started happening over here. And one of the very first things that happened, and at the time, I didn't think it was really a big deal. I didn't realize what it was. But the dogs I've got I raised German shepherds and I've got three German shepherds right now, but back then I had two. And I've got a horse fence that goes around my property. And the dogs went nuts and I walked over the fences at night.
I've got a flashlight and I hear walking, bye beetle walking and it's maybe only maybe about thirty feet away from me, but it's in a bunch of brush and stuff. So I shined my light over there and whatever it is quit swapping. And then I turned the light off and it starts walking again. Bipeetle steps, crunch, crunch, crunch. I turned the light on and it stops walking again. I turned it off and it starts walking, and I'm like, what am I? And I can't see anything, even
to this day that still relexes me. I mean, it's woods, but it wasn't super thick right there. It was just like briars and brush and some pine saplings. I've since cut all that down, but I couldn't see anything move. I didn't see any trees move nothing. But this happened. I probably did this about I don't know, maybe six or seven times of this, turning the light on and turning it off and making it stop and then letting it walk again until it got out of earshot. It never ran,
it never got it, never did anything crazy. That's all it was. And I'm like, man, that was a little weird, a little disturbing. And then like I heard my first wood knock at the time, I didn't realize what it was. Same thing, dogs go crazy. I go to step up on something to look over the fence or to get a higher look, and I hear lock. And what was so strange about it?
It sounds like a telephone pole hitting another telephone pole. And I could not, for the life of me figure out how a human made that sound, Like what could somebody use back there? And that was closed too. That was probably only maybe fifty sixty feet to make that sound. Through all this, I don't even know why my brain even opened up to the possibility of it being Bigfoot. I think some of it was we would watch Finding Bigfoot with the kids, just as you know, have it on the background.
It was something we could all watch together, you know. I think I probably picked some stuff up accidentally from watching that, like the wood Knocks, I put that together to it. You know, later on, progressively, I started realizing that, I mean, I am a combat veteran, and I could not figure out a lot of that's ego. I could not figure out how somebody was getting away from me at night, how they were just running circles around me, how nobody was able to see who it was.
How I'm not finding footprints or you know, shoeprints. Some of the areas it was like they were escaping through were super thick, and they were doing it with no lights. You know, all this stuff is just like, what what is going on? Well, one of the things that really really started sending me down that that line was my neighbor would call the cops.
They had a family member that actually worked for the Sheriff's department, so they had no problem calling the cops and something crazy would happen, and they were they were calling the cops like once every two weeks. Is how bad
it got, Like they were being harassed. The only only thing those people ever said they saw one of the kids said, at the end through the woods up towards this neighborhood about seventy five yards at night, he said he saw a big black man in all black standing in the middle of the trail, and then he yelled at him, and then the guy stepped into the woods. That's the only thing anybody ever saw when it came to a person.
So, you know, later on putting all this together, I'm like, wait a second, any times if you heard that description, you know, So one of these times, I'm sitting out on the front porch and I hear rifle fire, a R fifteen. I'm like, oh crap. So I go in there and I get my gun and I run over to his house and the guys standing out in his front yard. I'm like, dude, what happened? He said that? Sob through a rock at the
window. This time, he said, I called the cops. Well, the cops are on the way, so I don't want to stand out there with a gun. So I'm like, all right, Well, I'll get between your house and my house over there in the woodline. So I walk off. I'm probably about seventy five yards from him. He's standing in the
middle of his yard. I'd take a knee in the woodline. I'm looking around, listening, and all of a sudden, I see a step about eighteen inches long come flying out of the woods and hit him right in the chest, and it scared the crap out of him. It hits him, and he's like oh, and he runs off and he falls going up the steps and runs in the house. Well then the cops show up and he comes out, talks to him, blah blah blah, And that in itself was just like what am I dealing with? Because he's got a gun on
it? What idiot's gonna stand in the woodline and throw a stick at him? Like what what is this? So I think that's when my brain really started going in that direction, and I wound up finding my first track about a half a mile away, and then that was really when I was like, oh man, maybe these things are real. Maybe this is a sasquatch that we're dealing with here. Because I was pretty much at the end of my rope. We all were cold figure out what it was, you know,
And then I found that track and it was perfect. We were thinking about it though was three It was about thirteen inches long, but it only had three toes. And then later on I find out that's pretty common actually, And I've actually found that track two more times around here, and it's the right foot. For whatever reason, this one's right foot's messed up. It's only got three toes. So I find a track. Now. I've got a summer where I had to take some time off from work because I
had a couple of surgeries. I had a rotator cuff surgery and then I had a discreplace in my neck. So as I was recovering, I would go out behind my property and walk around, looking around and stuff, and I'm like, look, I got I'm going to get to the end of this. So I started doing nightly patrols, armed patrols, flashlight gun whole nine yards and I go out there and make noise and kick the trees and you know, trying to get something to happen or to scare off whoever this
person was or whatever I was dealing with. Probably did that for about two weeks, and then one of those days I was working on my kid's treehouse and I got done, probably about an hour before the sun went down. I walk up on the steps, I sit down sitting there drinking coffee, and behind the tree house, past the fence, down in the woodline. There's a tree about this bigger round. It's daylight, and it just starts
going like this, shaking like crazy. Well, I can't see the bottom like ten feet of the tree because there's a hill there and it goes down. But I run over there and I look and I'm like, well, I don't see anything, blah blah blah. But then well, you know what, I'm definitely going out to night because obviously that was somebody over there, you know. So I get all my stuff together. After it gets dark, I opened the door. My dogs come out with me, and
they instantly run to the fence barking. I'm like, all right, this is it's game time. So I got my pistol flashlight and I used to have one of those cheap or cheaper flear the TK scouts, and I had that with me. So I walk out there. I go out of my fence and there's this trail in between me and my neighbor's house and it's dark. I leave the dogs in the fence and I get to the top of this trail and there's this big boulder there and I'm walking and I get about
right to that boulder and rocks start hitting all around me. It was like somebody just took a handful of rocks and threw them up in the air, but not one of them hit me. And I kind of back up, and I'm like, all right, what's going on here. I'm shining my flashlight looking around, and I'll start walking forward again. Well again. Right when I get the same spot, rocks start hitting all around me again. I'll stop and I back up a couple of feet and I say, if
you hit me with a rock, I'm going to shoot you. You know, I'm thinking I'm dealing with a person. Nothing happens. I don't hear anything, so I keep walking. I get down to the end of the trail. I'm looking around and I don't really hear much. I don't see anything. I'm out there about ten minutes, like spinning around with my pistol my flashlight. Look I'm going down the trail a little bit looking around.
I don't see anything. I go back up to the top of the hill and I'm standing there looking over in my neighbor's yard with my thrble, and I see some kind of wrote it and then from behind it, it kind of looks like something bigger, but it's through the trees and I can't really tell. And I'm standing there looking at it, and from about thirty feet to my right, this thing growls at me. It goes and right there, instantly I knew Sasquatch was real and that's what I was dealing with.
There was nothing else on the planet that I had ever heard of. I mean, it just threw rocks at me, and then it got within. I was, what's it's one of the doing this. That was the one time that really really scared me. Number One, I didn't realize they were real at all. Number two, how close it got without me hearing a thing. It really scared me so much so that I mean, I'm standing there. I wish this would have happened. I wish this happened today.
You know. I was standing there with a thermal in my hand, and I was so scared that all I would do was I took my right eye off of it, and I'm just I'm basically just bracing for the impact is what I think is about to happen. And I'm afraid to pull my gun because it hasn't done anything yet. Well what if I pull my gun? You know? Is that going to piss this thing off. I don't know anything much about them, you know, this is kind of just a at
this point, I'm just kind of guessing that they're real. So I say, all right, man, I get it. I understand, and then I just back up real slow and I go in the house. And then then from that day forward, I just dive in head first. I'm like, I can't believe these things are real. You know. It takes about another I want to say, about another year or a year and a half from that incident before I actually saw one out here with my own eye, and it was at night. I'm sitting on my front deck. The dogs
are on the front deck. It's real late at night, and I'm looking out towards my neighbors, the one that's got had all the problems before, and they've got their lights on their outdoor lights, and I can see the sun the whole side of their house. And it's during the wintertime, so it looks like a movie screen pretty much when you're sitting in a movie theater, all white movie screen. Well, one of them comes walking right in front of the house. It's on my driveway. It's only sixty yards away.
It's the right side profile, and I'm watching it and it's like just like you see in the movies, like where the monster jumps out of the screen, but it's walking right in front of their house, so I can see perfect full body silhouette of the right side. I can see how its chin is just huge, it's got long, it's hair really thick, almost like the goofy hair, you know, that's what the silhouette looks like. And it's walking, and i'd just stand up to get a better look.
And when I do, I see it's right side and it turns to its upper half of its bodies facing And when people say four feet wide, they're not lying. This thing was every bit four feet wide. Its shoulders were absolutely massive. I guess the mate it's probably about. It wasn't like eight feet tall, it was. It was under seven feet. I mean it was big. It'd make a really it'd be a basketball player, but it
wasn't, you know, a big monster. But that last is probably about six seconds three seeing it from the side, and then about three seconds head on, and then it was out from in front of my neighbor's house, so I couldn't see it anymore. I got all my stuff together, walked out there, look and see if I could see princes. Didn't see any prints, but that was the first time I saw one. This whole process,
I had started a small Facebook group. All I was trying to do was try to find somebody to go out with other research, you know, And so I started a small group. I wound up finding one partner. His name's Mike Taylor. He's actually a professional adventure athlete. He climbs a bunch of mountains and does trail runs. He ran across the Gobi Desert, you know, all kinds of crazy stuff. Good partner. So him and I start going out, start getting a little bit of evidence. I'm putting
up stuff that I find. Well, there's a guy that contacts me that's on the page. His name's Captain Joe Cayley, and he is a former Army officer, infantry officer. I think he was a ranger. Yeah, he was a ranger. He's paying attention to everything that's going on around my property. And he contacts me and tells me his story, which is I think it's about six years ago now this happened maybe seven, but he was on a base in Georgia. It's called the Mammoth Sniper Challenge, and he
actually it together. This whole event. He was in charge of, like planning out the path they take and where they shoot from the whole nine yard. You know, he's planning this thing out. Well, he's on the firing line and he's spotting for a bunch of shooters and he's looking down at about thirteen hundred yards away over I think it's past the last burn. There's a firebreak or a road that runs back there. And he saw one walk across that that road, and he saw it, you know, with a
spotting scope. You know, let's say you can says like a telescope. Basically you can see the craters on the moon with it. You know, I'm sure you'll all see the nikon pictures. Well I'll just imagine that. But a spotting scope. That's how good of a look he got at this thing. So when we start talking and he tells me about his sighting and blah blah blah. And this goes on for I don't know, maybe a year. We get a couple of other people together, Angie Williamson, she
is a parole officer. She just had a she had friends that had stuff happened she was interested in, and she's a para officer. She's really good at talking to people, putting events together, all that stuff. So she kind of started talking to us, kind of brought her on, you know, with the page, and one day Joe just asked me, He's like, hey, man, let's start a podcast. Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. Right back after these messages, I was like, uh
no, I don't want to have anything to do with it. In fact, at the time, I was looking for someone who had a podcast just to give my stuff to. I didn't want to deal with it. I didn't want to deal with the groups. I wanted to do was see one of these things during the day and then proved they were real and that's it.
But after talking to Joe more about it, he's like, look, man, seeing everything that you know you've had happened around there, as you know, made me want to come forward and talk about what I've seen blah blah blah, and I'm all right, man, let's do it. So we started building a team. We went from just the podcast, so I wanted to build an actual research team, which we did we have. We've got Scott Deforced, the guy was telling me about before. He's also prior
Marine Corps. He was a cop for He just retired. I think I don't know how long it is, thirty years or something, but he just retired. He's also a member of the BFRRO. He's an investigator with them. We've got Hank Rosser. He used to be a firefighter. He had to keptable. Things happened that he got him interested. We brought him on. Let's see who else. Mike Taylor, and then a guy named Happy Harris. Now Happy he lives outside of Augusta, or used to, and
that is the area where Captain Joe lived. Well, Happy Harris contacted Captain Joe and told him about an incident he had when he was nineteen years old. This is over thirty years now. His buddy owns a massive property that has been in This guy his family. It's a King's grant, which means their family has owned this property since before America was America. That's how long
this property has been in and their family. Basically, his sighting or his story was, he was nineteen, he'd been out this property one hundred times. He was by himself. This day. There's a pipeline that runs down the center of the property. He was walking in the pipeline trying to find somewhere to hunt from. Well, he bucks up to this makeshift hunting blind. Looked like he had been built by somebody hastily, is what he said. So he went and sat down in it, I think, he said.
He was sitting there about thirty minutes, and then all of a sudden, from behind him, he heard two of these creatures talking in that samurai chatter, communicating with each other, but right behind him, and they were yelling basically in this samurai chatter. It scared him so bad he passed out. He said. He tensed up so bad that later on the next day he looked at his rifle and there was his fingernail prints were in the rifle from where he squeezed. He said he was sore for about two days,
his whole body just from tensing up so bad. But he passes out thirty minutes later. He wakes up sitting up in the front seat of his truck with the door open, that was three hundred yards away from where he was at. He says he has no idea how he got there. Now, he won't say it, but I think he would probably carried. You don't remember how he got there, right, So we have him on. He
tells his story. I got to think and I'm like, man, that's very odd for these things to put their hands on people like that, Like you hear it sometime. But really, in my head, what that meant was they either knew him and they were trying to protect him, or not knew him, like personally, but had seen him grown up out there, or they just didn't want any problems and they didn't want other people to come out there. Now they had no reason to touch him. Why they could
have just left him there? You know, if there wasn't some type of there was some type of thinking process involved, which you know I'll get into later. But these things are a lot smarter than people think. They're not just some dumb eight running around. There's actual They had the ability to plan things out and we've seen this happen. So he tells us the story and we're like, man, I think we really need to go check this guy's
place out. So we put a team together, me Captain Joe Happy, another guy he's no longer with us, yeah, I think that's it. So we all go out there the very first night. We get out there, we look around first, we look around during the day, and we find some of the best evidence that I've found in the field period. Within the first ten minutes of getting there. Happy he's trying to find the spot where it all happened it Scott Divorce finds a track way there's a dear feater
out there and near where this incident happened. He finds tracks that suggests that they were running from that area, pretty big tracks. So we follow these tracks into the woods right there. Now this area used to be shooting lanes. There's three lanes that are cut for shooting. Well, it's all grown up. It's got saplings and everything else in it. And then behind that is just the woods. So we walked through these shooting lanes following the tracks,
we get back in the woods and we find a bed. One of the coolest pieces of evidence we've gotten so far today. It's about ten foot around and it's like somebody sat down on the ground and reached out and grabbed the pine straw and pulled it into a perfect circle, and it was like somebody was laying down in the middle of it. We take pictures of it, look at it, and we're like, oh man, we got the tracks. We got this thing. We walk a little further and we find
another one. It's an older one one that they had built before, but it's now the water level it's kind of flooded in that area now, so they obviously moved and built another one. We were finding bones just that day. I think we found two deer skulls, find all kinds of there's hogs, there's more. There's tons of hogs out there, more deer than I've ever seen on any property at nighttime, just herds of deer out there. Find all kinds of really cool stuff. So we get done look around.
During the day, everybody leaves except for me. Scott the forest and happy, and we're sitting around the campfire. We're sitting there and we hear a yale. It's kind of like a canine. I think it's coyote. Some guys think it's something else. I think this one's a coyote. But then right after that, there's like a h We got all this recording. We hear that we're talking about what we're getting excited. They were like oh man, this is cool. Blah blah blah. Well, we're part where we're
kind of camping. I've got we're right in the middle, almost in the middle of this pipeline, so our vehicles from the middle going to the'll just say to the right. There's three vehicles and mine's the last one. It's about forty feet away from the tree line. There's no trees overhead at all. Or We're standing around around the fire and I'm hearing behind me in the woodline. I'm hearing like steps, and I'm kind of hearing grunts, and I'm like pointing them out, like, guys, you hear that.
And now we don't hear anything, and all of a sudden, lock a rock hits my vehicle, which at the time was super cool, but I just bought this vehicle like a week before, so it's like, man, that's cool, but dang it, you know, but that's recorded on audio. I've got my depro Alice recorded all the the audio for everybody of this. So that happens, We're like, oh my god, this is happening.
Blah blah blah. We're standing there and we hear another grunt and I still got my back turned and Hope reaches down and grabbed his flashlight and turns it on, and right when he turns it on, we say no, no, no, turn it off. Well, we go back through the audio and right when he turns that flashlight on, there's grunt like they did not like it when he turned that flashlight on it. So we've got their audio from that night, several pieces of it. So that was cool,
you know, it's uh, we're verifying all this evidence. You know, Tappy's feeling good because it backs the story up. You know. What I'm saying is he's lived with this thing for thirty years, never told anybody about it, and then he finally started talking about it. So it's it's working out great. We go like two more times after that, find more evidence, tons tons of hogs, dead hogs all over the place. Found a
spot where they're it looks like they're basically collecting bons. It looks like they're just dumping all their bones from their kills over in one corner by the creek. That's just another more evidence we find. I think it's about the third time. We go out there. First, me and Scott the forest get out there, We walk around, we're on one side of the pipeline in
the woods we're walking through. We walk up to the creek and he finds two hand prints like somebody's like a sandbar right there, like something was sitting down on the sand bar and just grabbed a handful of sand and drug. This was recent. I think it was right before we came walking up. So we find that. Then we find I'm not real big in the structure, Scott is. I'm not. I don't. I don't keep up with that stuff just because if it's very obvious, I pay attention and I think
there is something to it. But then the other times, you know, trees and sticks fall in the woods and they fall in all kinds of weird configurations. If it's obvious, though, I pay attention. And we found an obvious when it was like it was all it was made out of pine and it was an asterisk. It was just all of them shoved in together, just perfect. Okay, that's kind of pretty looking. And then right underneath it is a ten point deer skull. Right underneath that what it means
couldn't tell you. That's just what we found. So we're taking pictures all that all right, could go walking around. This is during the day. We get done, we go and we're in the middle in our little camp in the middle of the pipeline. Joe shows up, and Happy show up. Happy shows up for about an hour. He's got to leave because he's got to work the next day. Me and Captain Joe decide we're gonna go check the other side where we've found all the beds before. We're walking around.
About forty five minutes. We find the beds. Every time we go out there. There's new animal balls, you know, that's pretty reliable. Looking around, it's been forty five minutes. We're not being quiet. We're pretty much wrapping it up. We're about to turn to go back towards camp, which there's Scott is back at camp and we're using the fire old firing lanes as a trail, you know, to go in and out of this area. Now, this, all this, everything that happened, isn't necessarily
as important as our screw ups from this day. We learned a lot from this day, but it was also pretty much life chain. I'm about sixty ft in front of Joe. I'm walking I see another deer skull. I've got a GoPro on my back recording behind. I stopped. I look at the deer skull. I stick my phone in my pocket like an idiot. I looked down. I grabbed the deer skull. I pick it up, I look at it. I throw it down. I take like five steps.
I still to this day don't know why I did it, but I just stopped, and I turned and I looked at my right, and there is a sasquat standing about fifty feet away from me, looking right at me. This is four thirty five o'clock afternoon, unobstructed, standing there, the blackest black I've ever seen. We call him a juvenile because because he was
skinny, and he wasn't tall at all. He was he was kind of had his hands like this, his head was bent over like this and just standing there, and he had a frown on his face when he was looking at me. But he was real skinny, kind of scraggly looking. But he had a white goatee. His skin was it was a light gray on his face. Because of the shot, I could see his eyes you're looking at his face, I could see from like the middle of his eyes down
and all that was just like a light gray. And then on his left hand, because he had his arm up like this, I could see the skin on this side of his hand, and that was a light gray. Every other part of him was solid black, just as black as black gift. And he had this believer or not this big goofy looking kind of like I got a cowlick, but his was huge, like a rooster. Almost
looked right at him. I'm looking right at him. Well, I don't have my phone on my hand, but I've got the GoPro running on the back, so the only thing I can think of is that's already running. So I turn around real quick and act like I don't see him, and then just kind of move my back back and forth like that, trying to get him on camera. And then I reach in. I grabbed my phone out of my fucket turning on and turned around and I start recording. I
don't see him, I yelled back to Joe. He's sixty feet away. I say, Joe, they're here. I just saw one. He was like wow. He says something. I can't really tell what he's saying, but he says something about twelve o'clock. I know, after putting all this together now because of the video. I know what happened. He went if if Joe's behind me and to my right and I'm looking at the sasquatch. When I turned my back towards a sasquatch, it went the opposite. So
as my camera's coming around, he's going this way. So that's why I didn't get him. Because eventually Joe sees him. It crosses in front of him. There's a berm out there, about a four foot tall berm where there was a piece of machinery out there that dug it up. Just dump the dirt there. Well, Joe yells back. I see him, and he sees from the waist up, same thing I do, but side profile,
we come together. I walk over to Joe and I don't know whether I've got him on video or not, so I tell Joe, I said, stop the growth of the GoPro. I don't want anything to happen to that footage. Just stop it. So we get that taken care of. I go one way to I don't realize this thing has gone back. I think it's gone. I think the day's over with. We we just saw one. You know, this is amazing. We can't believe it happened, blah blah blah. So I'm wanting to see if I can find it trapped.
So I make a loop around and then eventually we come together and we start in the direction that it was going. Well. We come to this little creek and I look down and there's three fingerprints in the ground right there at the creek where it had stuck it. It was running on all fours and his hand went right in the mud. This is all on the video. I stick my fingers right in the mud right next to it to compare it. And as we're doing this, we start hearing crashing and breaking.
Apparently we're not moving fast enough for this thing. It's wanting us to follow. It had plenty of time to get away it wanted to and we're like, I can't believe this, dude, this I think it wants us to follow it. So we start following behind it. I called Scott. I say, Scott, man, we just saw one. It's coming your way. Get ready. So we're walking, we're talking, we walk a little further, we stopped. We're still freaking out. We can't believe we saw
this. Blah blah blah, and it's breaking and cracking things again. We're like, jeez, this is still here. So we keep all following and we keep following this trail all the way back till we come out to the pipeline and he opens up and we're like, we're freaking out. Joe's got he's got the wild eyes, like he's just been in a firefight. I imagine I looked the same way. We're talking about it. We get closer and closer to Scott and he yells something to us. We get up there
and he tells us. But after we call him, he's standing there with a pair of binocular looking down our direction and he says, about seventy five yards down he sees it walk out on all fours doing the spider crawl, walks out in the open, does a loop, turns around and goes back in the woods, and about ten yards away, Me and Captain Joe come walking out. This thing's ten yards away from us. We had no idea. So now all three of us are freaking out. We can't believe this
just happened. I go over. I call Happy. First thing. I said, dude, you're not crazy. All three of us just saw one dude. Congratulations, We're all celebrating. I get done, take my thermal, and I set up in the back of Scott's truck facing that same direction. We're standing there talking. Thirty thirty five minutes go by and Scott yells,
there's another one. We look over to where we came out from before, and there's one running across the field on all four Now, when I just put a video up of this, when I say running, it's not running like a dog or like a gorilla or anything else. It's more like a hop It's down on imagine squatted down on all fours. He's got his arms out in front of him, and it's like he kicks his back legs. He goes into a flat like Superman position, lands and does it again.
But he's moving about as fast as a dog. Now this one is. It's bigger than the other one we saw, but it's the same exact color. It's black, all black. So it runs across the field, gets to the other side, turns away from us, and runs up the tree line and right before there's a big creek over there. Right before it hits the creek, it takes a left and goes into woods. Well. As its doing this, I get my phone out of my pocket again and
I'd start chasing. I got that on video and I'm like running and there's water everywhere and blah blah blah. But we get done with all that, and we can't believe how is this possible? Number one, what we did Our biggest mistake, Number one is not recording at all times twenty four hours a day. We thought that we knew what these things were capable of. We thought that we had been out I had me and Scott had been out
there for three hours walking around during the day. We were in the middle of the pipeline hanging out for like two hours, joking around, talking everything else. Then that's when me and Captain Joe going to wood. We never in a million years thought we would have a sighting because like you here over and over again. Oh well, if you're in the woods, they know you're there. Well, I think they knew they were we were there on But what we didn't realize is they're smarter than we think they are. I
think every bit of this was intentional. I think they wanted just like with Happy, they wanted us out of there. I don't think we snuck up on it. I don't think it's screwed up. I don't think anything. This thing was intentionally walked up within fifty feet of me and looked me dead in my eye, and then Joe sees it again. That was intentional because as soon as I saw it and then I lost sight of it, the day should have been over with. If we really snuck up on this thing.
There was no logical reason for any of that to happen unless it wanted us out of there. And that's why Captain Joe you can see in the video he's got this wild eyed look in his eyes because he controlled our movements. We did not realize how smart it was. Knew that if it made noise that we were going to follow. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to Sea Warding right back after these messages, and we did exactly what it wanted us to do. That I insult to injury. We got lucky and we
got unlucky. I did not get it on the GoPro, the thermal I had set up. I didn't have enough experience with it's a pulsar, and when you go to race videos, I've found out now you can only do six at a time, maybe five, maybe eight you pick those videos or race them and then pick more. Well, before I went out there, I tried to race in all of them at the same time. It didn't
work, so the memory was full. So I got like all twenty minutes before it stops twenty minutes, and then at thirty five minutes is when it runs right across where that thermal was after the initial sighting, after I see
it, then Captain Joe sees it. I'm recording the whole time with my phone, and after we come together and we're walking and we're about to get to that creek where those fingerprints are, I go back through the video and the only reason why I found him in the video, and the only reason why I could find him is because he had a white goatee and he had that big black cow lick thing. So I was able to go back through
the video and find him. At one time in the middle of the day when we're looking for him, when we know it's there, he's forty feet away from us, crouched down and just watching us. And we got it all videos. There's one really good screenshot and it's as clear as day. It looks like a monkey face. The ones we saw they're more primate looking. I think they're more like a swamp ape as opposed to the ones up north that looked more like Neanderthal. That's what it looked more like to me.
But it's just as clear as day. All I did was changed. I used a iPhone. I changed some of them, the shading, the brilliance and all that, the basic settings in the iPhone that you can change to where you can see it. You can see his face just as clear as day. I don't go into it a whole lot, but I think there's another little one in it pretty clear, but I didn't see a little
one, so I can't say that it looks like a little one. But I know what I saw that the picture of the juvenile sasquatch that we have that is on a sasquatch. There's no way around it. And in fact it's the sasquatch that we saw. So we have one really good still from that video. So we did get lucky on that front. It was the
most amazing thing while doing this number one. Even all that I had experienced and had seen in the past, there was still a little bit of doubt in the back of my mind, and he always got I've done a lot of money into doing this, buy an equipment and everything else. There was always that fearwll, what if what if all these guys are lying to me? And what if I'm wrong? What if I'm wasting my time? But to see two of them on the same day, with two other witnesses standing
next to that was it for me. I was already pretty pretty into it. But then I've become even more devoted number one, because now we know we learned just throw out everything you think. You know, they're extremely smart. They have the ability to manipulate us if they want to. It's what we figured out that they have that type of cognitive ability to think forward about
setting something up. You know, we're both combat there and we had no idea that this thing was just leading us along on a string because we didn't realize We didn't think they were that smart. We never thought that it would walk out during the middle of the day. We were not ready. People ask all the time, well you saw blah blah blah one and ran across. We underestimated them. We screwed up. That's all there is to it.
But we've made a lot of changes about a lot more equipment. There's somebody recording at all times now when we go out, and a lot of people make fun of me because I look like RoboCop. When I get out of the field, I am covered in cameras. That's pretty much the main We've got another We've got a guy that's contacted us here recently from around the same area. Got some really cool stuff going on. We're gonna try to repeat this whole process from beginning to end on this other property, and that'll
be coming up. I'm about to interview this gentleman Tuesday. The only other thing is we've got a really good thermal I do from out here. I actually just reposted that video today. People go to the channel, but that basically happened out here. I was in my front yard. My wife came outside to get something from the vehicle. The dogs went crazy. They went up to the fence. I heard something hit the ground. My wife walks back in, and then as I'm standing out with the thermal, something else
flies right down in front of me and hits the ground. Three different objects were thrown at me. I've got one of them on the thermal, and after looking around for about I keep seeing like spots heat signatures out there in the woods. But I can't really, you know, make anything of it. But then I catch through the trees a perfect face. It's just looking right at me. Gotta moving around a little bit. He turns and looks one direction, and then turns and looks right back at me. I don't
know what to tell you. It's a sasquatch. You know that one actually looks more like a caveman. That's where we're at. Man, we got a lot of evidence. We got We've got two years worth of evidence. You know, really good vocals. I've got vocals from my back deck of one talking. I've got vocal of it growling. I've been growled at three times. But yeah, that's that's pretty much everything in a nutshell. I think it's interesting that you talk about how smart these things are, because I've
had conversations with so many people about that. Cliff Barrackman was on the show a couple of months ago, and Cliff made the comment that he doesn't believe that these things are maybe as smart as people think they are because of the makeup of their bodies. Right, they have these people describe huge heads with no necks and that's really indicative if you get into the musculature and the makeup
of the bodies. It doesn't necessarily mean a bigger brain. But I think it's interesting that you say that because I interviewed Dan from Washington, who was a hunter. I mentioned him to you before we went on the air, and Dan had a similar situation in that he believes he was drawn in with wood knocks, and he believed he was being drawn into an ambush because it culminated with him walking into this what he believed to be an ambush and this
thing jumping out at him and scared the shit out of him. Right, and he's carrying a long gun. He's carrying a pretty decent sized rifle because he's hunting elk. But I'd never heard that before until he shared his story of these wood knocks and them using noise, in your case, noise and
movement to draw people in to do what they want you to do. So I think that's a really interesting point that I think people who go out in the woods and look for these things should probably be aware of, because if there's multiple individuals out there and they're doing something in a concerted effort to get you to do something they want you to do. You might want to take
notice of that sooner rather than later, because it could end badly. And in dan situation, he believes that maybe this thing saw the weapon and decided that it wouldn't be worth his time to do whatever that he was trying to draw him in to do. But he really had that ominous feeling that this
thing was trying to bring him in and really do him harm. Before we close out, don't want to go back and just ask a couple of quick questions about the stuff that was going on around your house and your neighbor's property. I was taking notes as you were talking about this. Was there anything that happened that you could put your finger on that changed that might have precipitated or caused some of the activity, or was it just sort of a sporadic
thing that started around your house a new neighbor's house. About the only thing that I could really see doing something like that was he actually cleared out an area to put a turkey block, and from what they had been here longer than we had, that could have been the case. But one thing I left out is that area back there, that trail that you know, the trail splits my property and their property. It's a pine thicket. The beds that we found at the Happy Place, they were in pine thickets. They
used the pine straw. Well that area, there wasn't a bed made like the ones we found where it was obvious, but there was a circle, a perfect circle of where all the trees and the brush and stuff were just just gone. Pine straw was super thick, and I started finding bones back there. I think that's where they were bedding. So I don't know if they just claimed that spot and then I really don't know, you know, all that would be speculation. There's also there's also a teenage girl involved with
one of the houses. I don't know if that has anything to do with it, but you know, anything that I would say would be speculation. I know that I know that humans had a difficult time with some of the individuals involved, so maybe the Sasquatch also had a hard time with them too, I could say, I mean, you know, some people just had that neck, you know, I don't know. I didn't talk to them
personally. From this They actually moved out, and that's when things kind of kind of ramped up because this spot behind their house was, you know, that was never the new neighbors that lived there now they never go back. But I don't have access to it like I, you know, like I used to. But another thing I left out after I got growled at. I went back there a few days later, and you go down the trail and then the first left that goes back there to that pine area is another
trail there. I got a picture of it. There's three rocks, this big, laid across that trail like two days later. I don't know where those came from, but to me it kind of I was like, well, maybe that's a Maybe that's a keepout. Maybe that's what's going on. Is that's their betting area and they just don't want us coming back there, you know, which is which is super odd to think about when you're talking about these creatures. And then I mean there are a thousand yards away,
there's another big neighborhood. There's I mean, I'm semi rule. I do have thousands of acres behind me, but in front of me, I mean, I'm six miles away from six gas stations, five miles away from a school in a library. You know, when you think about that's what I thought when you think about sasquatch, you think about way out in the middle of nowhere. Well that's not the case. The more you do this,
the more you find. In fact, I think the key two research and finding out more about this is finding the right private property, because private properties like mine or like the Happy Place, you can keep up with everything. It's if you want to keep it that way. It can be a sterile area to where you know everything that happened there, you know. And that's
what's been the benefit in my own personal research. They run circles around me because the way my fence is laid out, and it's like a fishball effect. But it's also made it to where there seems like it's made it more comfortable. They know I can't run out there and get them, they know I'm not gonna shoot at it. It seems like over the years they've got
more and more comfortable with getting closer and closer. And that's you know, over the past two years, when I've started getting the best evidence, the vocal from one of the last really good vocals I got, the thing was on my back deck and I didn't think they were coming to my guard and it's all on audio, you can hear it walking and then it makes h I was actually on the reason why I even found it, it's because I
was laying I was sick that morning. I got up and I went and threw up, and I think it was something I ate the day before, and I'm like, crap, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to go to work. So I went and laid down. I'm like, well, maybe I just waited out see what happens. And I'm laying there and I hear talking through the wall, like through the window backside of my house. It's just deep. It's like a deep rule. I didn't hear words or anything, which is a deep sound. Well, I go and check
my camera and I hear a few things or whatever. It's nothing obvious. Well then I put it in a vocal or a program audio program and enhance everything, and it's just as obvious as can be. It's like like it's stepping or walking on the deck, and then it makes some kind of vocal like a there's three when I slowed the tempo down, which for any of you out there that like working with vocal of one of the things that I've noticed that really helps out is if you slow the tempo down real slow and
stretch it out, you can really tell the build of that vocal. And it's got three syllables in for Christ's sake, you know this is this is it's talking. It's not just making a grunt or a growl or a yell. It's not human words that we know, but it's saying something. You know. You know, Cliff's been doing this a long time. I mean, I won't, I won't go back and forth other researchers and get involved
in all that stuff, but I will say I disagree. Well, what I've seen there is and what I've experienced, they are smarter than they're being given credit for. Now. I do think the flesh and blood being, you know, I don't think there's anything. What I haven't what I have seen enough of is to realize that I understand why people think they're paranormal is because of how fast they are, their ability to move on all fours and stay extremely low. Like the one that walked up them on me that day,
he got within fifty feet. I never heard it, never heard it coming, but when it wanted me to hear it, I heard it. You know, make crashing break and all that. Why this wasn't a smart whatever you want to call it, a creature? Why didn't it just run off? Why didn't the survival instinct just kick in and to just leave? And then to have another one run across right in front of us after that? Why did do that? Don't make any sense. We definitely didn't sneak
up on that one. You know, everybody has different experiences and different information they're getting from individuals, So you know, I guess one day we'll find out. Hopefully with enough putting enough information out there, we'll all figure out who was right and do is wrong? You know. That's all I care about, is getting the information out there, putting the puzzle pieces together, you know, and that's what I enjoy doing. I'm super excited about this
property coming up, so hopefully we can repeat the process. Well, we've talked about it a couple of times. We've talked the Facebook group in your YouTube page. Tell everybody where they can find that, and I'll certainly link to it in the show notes. All right on YouTube is the Sasquatch Encounter Brigade. Same thing on Facebook. If you want to send us an email
for any reason I ask questions. If you live in Georgia and you've got a property with these things on it, I'd love to hear from you, or if you're a hunter or any outdoors person or anyone who's had an experience. The email is the Encounter Brigade at gmail dot com. The Encounter Brigade at gmail dot com. You guys, check it out. I'll link to it in the show notes. Johnny Tubears, thanks so much for coming on and sharing your experiences. Man, I've had a blast talking to you.
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