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Now. I know what your reporting. I got a strain of going on here. Something just killing my dog. Something killed your dog, my dog. We're flying to or over the trade. I don't know how it did it? Okay, dam and I'm really confused. Also, I thought my dog coming over the fence, and they would have did when you hit the growler. I entertaining cards and although I saw it was my dog coming over the fen what are you reporting? We gotta some one or something crawling
around out here. You see what it was. I'm out here looking up near the window now and I don't need anything. I don't want to go outside. Heat anybody here, Hello, get somebody out here. What's goin on out there? I thought I'm a bit about second four nine. I don't know he's he out there? Yeah, I'm brooking right, Hey everyone, it's Brian. No you didn't click the wrong podcast. This is the
Sasquatch Odyssey, but I'm not here this week. I just dropped in to tell you guys that I am actually on vacation and Wayne is going to be taking care of you over the next few episodes. Have no fear. He's put together some amazing guests and some amazing encounter stories. I know you guys are going to enjoy them just as much as I have. I will be back with a brand new episode for you guys on Wednesday, May seventeen, But until then, as always, sit back, relax and enjoy the show.
All Right, how are you doing buddy? Hey? Wayne, how are you doing well? Tell us a little bit about that intro. That's my crazy partner, Brian Bowden. He's my tech guru. When we saw I started the team, I picked Brian as as my tech guy because he's just phenomenal with technology and I can't even turn a computer on, but he put that together. We used to do a monthly show would be like the Bronxhill, Power and Rubble Society Evidence Review, and then we every now and
then we do like a once a month kind of show. We jump on and we just you know, do a live show like you and just either have friends come in because we've got so many friends that are in the power and rubble and every aspect of it. We'd have them I'm in son, or we just take questions. We'd open up the phone lines and have people call and just interact with the audience. And we had a lot of fun
doing it. Only problem is between Brian and myself, we're always in Facebook jail, so you know, we can't we can't stay out of jail for some reason. But imagine that. Imagine I have a hard time believing that they but it is what it is. But we were talking today and we're gonna get back into swinging thing again, so you know, I look forward
to getting back into the swing of things. We used to do two monthly meetings, one down in Westchester, South you know, New York, closer to New York City, and one up here by me and COVID knocked all of that out of the box and we never we never got back around to doing doing the live meetings. So we just decided to start doing you know, like a monthly show or maybe every bi weekly whatever whatever it turned out.
Today. Uh, yeah, you've introduced me to Brian, talk to him a little bit through messenger and gotta We talked about getting him on the show. Gotta gotta get that set up. Now. You gotta love Brian. Curiota love Brian. If you want to talk about dieries and co genture and speculation, Brian's and Brian's got it all figured out. You gotta love me. Well, I'm glad somebody does because I certainly don't. I know he's I love him like a brother. So what he had, We have
so much fun together, and uh I missed him. He moved down to Florida on me and uh so uh that you know he is. He'll be back up in the summer. And he came up in August for my birthday, drove all the way up by himself, just for my birthday. And I told him he was absolutely nuts. Yeah, yeah, man, right there, That's all I wouldn't do for him. But now he came up and uh he spotted his family, you know what I mean? And so it is what it is. Yeah, yeah, you gotta love Brian.
As a matter of fact, there's a dorm an encounter tonight that I was going to mention it but I'm not going to mention it. I'm gonna leave it for Brian to talk about. Okay, okay, Yeah. Like I was saying before, this is your third time on the show. First time you came on and just kind of introduced yourself, ended up telling one of the best big foot encounters I've ever listened to the firsthand that experienced it, it was great. Ended up being in my intro. Yeah I think I
heard that. Yeah, yeah, great, great encounter. Then the second time you came you talked about a crazy knot that you and Brian and one other person that experienced ye doing a paranormal investigation. And tonight, you know, here to round it out with some dog Man stuff. I can't wait to get into it now. People that that have watched the show and followed me know how I feel about dog Man. I don't know what to make of dog Man. When I first got into the subject, I thought it
was silly. I thought we have enough cryptis out there. What is this giant dog walking on two legs eating people? You know, it just seemed far fetched. And then the more you listen, the more I started to think, this sounds kind of like a it could be a bigfoot. I misidentified big foot. But the people you talk to that have that have encountered these things swear, no, that's not the case. This looks like a dog. This is some kind of dog. Where are you on all of
that? How did you first hear about the dog Man and what were your original thoughts? I first heard about the dog Man on that kind of show, dog Man Encounters, and I would listen in to that, and I was telling Brian about it, and you know, I have my family goes back to Italy. You know, we're like our families wanted our original families of Roman every day. And I was talking to an aunt of mine who grew up over there, and she was telling me, sir out it real
quick about her family. We had family in Italy. They were up in the alpines, they called him. They're like, they're like the Castle Mountain here compared to the Rocky mountains, okay, And this family was up there. They were sheep herders. They had sheep, you know, and so long. So one night it was the youngest son's chant turned to watch the sheep, you know. So his brother gave him a stick with a rock tied to it and he said that anything comes around, just beat it with
the rock. And family went to go sleep in the house, and so the kids will underneath this giant boulder, sitting there, and he sees a shadow of a wolf from the moonlight, and he sees the sheep getting nervous and stuff, you know. So he's waiting for his wolf to come down. And the wolf was creeping down around this big rock and creep up on
the sheep. And as the wolf comes around the corner, he starts speaking the hell out of it with the rock, and he beats it and he beats it and he beats it and he's screaming and yelling and making all kinds of noise, and a wolf runs off into the woods, and his parents and his brother come out and they say, what's you know what happened? He said, oh, the wolf game. I had to beat him up
with stick. Now. A woman who told me the story is my ninety five year old aunt, and I she when she told me the story, I almost fell off my chair. And so anyway, the next day the father goes into town and tells the constable that there's wolves out there, you
know. So they put up like a little posse. They go into the woods looking for those wolves as they want to kill them, and they're following a blood trail, and they're following a blood trail, and they get to a cottage in the middle of the woods that nobody knew was there, and the constable says, well, let me go knock on the door because i'm you know, the law, and maybe this person lives at his house as a wolf as a pet, you know, and he was when we're gonna
have to put this wolf down, you know, he knocks down the door in hand to God, I swear to God this is a true story.
I validated it with my brother and my sister who were in the house when my aunt from Italy told my ninety five year old aunt, now, when they opened the door, a gentleman opened the door and he had bandages on his head, and they asked him if he had a wolf, and he said no, and it's gonna cop told them, well, we followed a blood trail from their property to your front door, so you know, but he beat a wolf last night. And the guy said, well, I don't know. I don't own a wolf, and he closed the door.
And my relatives were so freaked out, and that day went back to the house and they stole the farm and moved to the United States because they thought that that guy was a werewolf and werewolfs a little different than man. I know, but I don't believe. I never, in my lawless imaginators ever believed in werewolves, you know what I mean. A person turning into a
wolf is a little bit much for me. But my aunt told me this story, and it just freaked me out, just freaking I couldn't believe that these people sold their farm to get out of it because they thought the mountain was cursed. So anyway, I'm listening to I'm listening to the condifferent dogmatic counters, and I gotta be a little fire pick in my backyard and I just sit out there at night and I listened to podcasts and I have a
couple of cold beers around the fire. And the more I'm hearing about these dog man, the more he's freaking me out. So I'm like, one minute, I have no problem sitting in my backyard. The next minute I'm sitting there with my sword off, show my crystal girth shotgun, you know what I mean. Because I'm hearings. I was walking through the and it's freaking me out. So I'm calling my partner Brian. I said, what
do you think about this? And Brian's like, oh, come on, you know it's you know, it's big and bad enough, you know, dealing with the bigfoot stuff. You're not really going to go down this road. And I go, I don't know what to tell you. Man. You know, my aunt's telling me about were wolves and it sat the other things is freaking me out. So one morning, I'm on my way to work for thirty in the morning. I'm the only guy in the parkway.
It's Monday morning, bright and early, and there's a meadow off the parkway where the deer go to Grange in the morning. Okay, And as I'm coming down the parkway in my jeeks, I see two sets of yellow eyes walking out from the woodline. These eyes are like seven too tall, Okay, there are about seven feet so I'm looking at it now. I stopped the jeep in the middle of the parkway and I put the window down because I got tinted window, and I'm looking at these eyes and I'm like,
wow, it must be bigfoot, you know what. I mean, these must be some big foots coming out of the woods. And then I'm thinking, you know, never seeing a big foot with yellow eyes, only seeing them with red eyes, you know, and said away, I'm looking at these things, and I'm looking at these and they were walking like you know by Peter Lee, and they stopped and they noticed me looking at them, and they're looking at me, and I'm looking at them, and it's like
I got sucked into a trance. They dropped down the whole fours and they start running towards me. Now is there running towards me? I see a neck bobbing up and down, like a dog's neck when the dog runs. Right, I got a Jeremy Shepherd. I know what the dog, My dog looks like when he's running our He's tracking something on the ground, you know. And I'm looking at these things and they're getting closer, and I see his head uplet and then I'm talking to myself in my head. I'm
saying, these are not these are not big foot's. Big Foots don't run leg this. Big Foots have no neck, you know. There's got to be something else. And then a little voice in the back of my head says maybe you should get going, you know, because these things are getting close. So I just roll up the window and I punched the jeep out, and as I pulled away, I hit my brakes and just tap the brakes so the brake lights would go on. It's just to see if they
were running after me down the parkway, you know. And when I did that, I could see them both stopped dead on a dime, and their heads went like this, like they caught scent or something, and they took off running north up the parkway. Now we're there on two legs, or they went from two legs when they came out in the woodline and they dropped down to all four okay. And then when they caught the scent of something I guess the deer or whatever they caut the scent of, they ran off
on all four. Good dog Okay. So the whole way I'm driving to work, I'm debating what I've seen. I was like, they must I'm thinking these were definitely not big foots. These must have been dog man. I mean, I've heard enough experiences now on a Vic's show about the yellow eyes and the way the net moves up and down when they run winner on all four and all of this stuff. And so I'm debate and don't even
telling Brian. So anybody called Brian, and I say during the day, I call him and I say, dude, you're not gonna believe what I say. I think I've seen today, you know. So I explained to him what I've seen, and he says, you gotta go back. He goes, you gotta go back, and you gonta research all of that stuff there. And I'm like, Bran, there's a city hall right there,
and it's junior high school right there. And I know this area like the back of my hand because my son went to those my kids went to those schools. And and I go, there's not a lot of woods over There's just a small patch of woods. And he's like, you have to go back. You have to go back. Okay. So said, okay, when I get off, I get a day off, I'll go back.
And that was on the Mondy Tuesday morning. When I drove by the same spot, there was a state truck there, like the New York State Environmental Protection Agency truck parked in the meadow, and I'm looking at the truck. I was like, okay, well, I don't know what's going on, but I see this truck there and I go. I go to work, it's there. I come home, it's there. And three days later the
truck is still there. I don't see anybody ever by the truck. Then like the fourth day, it changed from a New York State Environmental Protection Agency to New York State Conservation Agency. Different. So the first one was like a little green pick up, the second one was like a little green bronco. Okay again, sitting in the middle of the meadow. Never seen anybody there, and no matter when to go buy, it's never anybody at this
truck. So I'm telling Brian about something, dude, something that's going on, because you know, there's always a I've been driving up and down the Sparker for thirty years. I've never seen a conservation truck or anything in the middle of the meadow. So Brian's hasn't got to go back. So I go back that Sunday and I go right over to where I see the creatures come out from the tree line, and I measure from the tree the base
of the tree up to the top of the tree. And the state had cut the trees at the eight foot level the branches so they can get underneath them. What the tractors when they cut the meadow, okay, And I just figured these things are about seven feet tall, So I said, okay, let me go down. There's a little creek on the other side of this fence. I go down to the creek and there's some people in there on their fishing, and I'm asking them what's going on, and they say,
oh, yeah, you know the state of much mcquilla. They filled the print trout. They filled the creek up with out this time of the year, you know what I mean. We're down are fishing for trout and YadA, YadA, yeada. So I'm like, all right, there's there's a precre fresh water, there's fish. So I follow the creek. I go underneath the roadway which are like condominiums on the other side of the road,
and opens up to a giant lake. I'm looking at this lake and I'm saying, okay, um, duck, geese, frogs, turtles, more fish, plenty of food here for a predator, you know. And I'm thinking, there's nothing there but town hall. So I keep gumbling. I'm walking the further. I'm walking I'm walking like I'm walking towards my house. I go another quarter of a mile and it opens up to a giant cornfield, and I say, okay, we got corn. Corn equals deer.
Deer equals predators. And I'm thinking, man, I thought I knew this place like the back of my hand. I had no idea there was this much food here for a predator, you know. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to sea Wolf right back after these messages, and Brian's like,
I told you you had to go back. I told you, And I was like, man, I'm glad you forced me to go back, because you know, I thought I knew it all, but I didn't know anything, you know, to be honest with you, you know, Yeah, we've actually got a couple of questions if you want to those, Yeah, quick, we'll get him in order. First one, and miss Tiffany, as I've heard a lot of people say that dog Man is actually a dire wolf. Do you think that's a possibility now, Because I never heard a
dire wolf walk on my pa Lee. That would be my argument too. Yeah, I've heard that, Tiffany. I've heard that too. Dire Wolf's supposed to be very very large. Yeah, And I looked into that, Miss Tiffany, after I had my first encounter with all kinds of wolves, and I was wondering if a Darwood could be a dire population still existing. But they they're just not by peetle, you know. Yeah. I got one more from Carson, and this is one that I struggle with, the
Gugway big foot. It's a dog man head or dog man with big foot body thoughts. Yeah, you know what I know that I don't. I don't really necessarily think the Gugway has a dog man head. Um. I don't really consider it a dog anyway who has a more of a wolf like head or a hyena head. But the Gugway. Um. When I was researching Gugways, a lot of the people that I spoke to that were from
down South called them bear squatches because they had a bears now. They looked like they had a bears now, but they had um big big foot legs. They didn't had they didn't have the K nine legs. Okay, Okay, Yeah. I had Miss Naiom a fan on last week and the topic of dog man came up and something, you know, I thought of something out of the blue. Originally I thought that the dog man could be a misidentified Bigfoot. What if the dog man is a misidentified guguoy is. They
talk about how aggressive gug boys are. Dog men are supposed to be very aggressive as well, and everything I've heard, the gug boy has like a baboon snout, whereas most bigfoot don't battle parish, Yeah, something like that. Could there be a connection there, just general opinion. So I don't think so. And the other reason why I'm gonna I'm gonna say no is
because again it comes back to those K nine legs. You know. Um, every Gugway that I've ever researched, or anybody I've ever interviewed regarding it always said it had the big foot bigfoot kind of legs, like human humanoid legs. No one ever said it looked like K nine kind of with haunches. Okay, yeah, just one man's opinion. Yeah all right, So yeah, you can you keep going with your if you're a canter there, if you got another one you want to start, yeah, sure, sure.
So So that was the very first that was my introduction to what I believed I've seen that night, that that morning was where dog man and I believe there were two of them, and I think they were there on that meadow because, like I said, they're always deer there early in the morning praising, and I think they were just happened to be hunting, you know.
Um. Then we went to we went they talked about that investigation where we did on Halloween where we got bluff charged by a dog man, not not knowing it was a dog man, thinking it was a sas watch that was bluff charging us. But I did got a picture of what I've seen what was behind the wall. I did send it to Wayne. He's got that photograph. I don't know if he's gonna put it up or not. But you can definitely see a snout on the other side of the wall.
It was squared off like a pit bowl kind of snout with point of years like they were propped. And I shine too, and the snow sniffing us over the wall. So that was our second and that was my second and running with a dog man, and I'd be really honest with thank god we didn't see what was on the other that side of that wall, because we probably all would have died of heart attacks. But later on um months later, six months later, I know I discussed this the last time I was
on two. I was being drawn back to the swamp at where we found the den. And we've seen I don't know if they sent you of that photograph. I think I did. Um there, we've seen that the dog man that had the wolf like had the big cane nine, and I mean it was just absolutely among us. And next to that one was the one that I believe buff charged us, that had hyenas now that was snarling at
us. And then you know that that night came and went months later, a couple of months later, Yeah, I want to say it was early October. I was we were sleeping in our room, and you know, a guy like me who grew up in the city and I lived on the first floor. When I lived in the city, we didn't open our windows that night. We didn't not, you know, because you open the window nights, someone's going to come in, you know. So I never opened
my windows at night. When we moved down stays, we were upstill and the second floor. The kids got older, we could separate bedrooms. We moved downstairs and one night it was a warm, full night again of us have been around October, early October, early November baby, and we had the window open, which is something I never do. And but that night I left the window open and we're laying in bed sleeping like this little cat
will slipping between me and my wife, I don't know. Two thirty three o'clock in the morning, I waged up both I pop up out of bed and I feel like there's something on the other side of the wall and on the wall that I sleep up against faces the backyard, okay, and I feel like there's something there. I mean, the cat jumps up, she does straight at it. She jumps straight up, and she runs upstairs, this underneath the kid's bed, and she sounds like a herd of elephant's going
up the steps. And she weighed like nine pounds. So I'm looking at the I'm looking at the wall, and I do this so all the time, I feel felt the wall like I feel like there's something there. So I lean over and I'm looking out the bedroom window into the backyard, which is pitch black. Can't can't see anything out of the screen. I got goosebumps from my head, my head to my tails. I get goosebumps and
I get the feeling there's something out there. I say okay, And I could have want to hurt something, sniff like get like to get my scent, and at that planet said okay, let me shut the window. Shut. The window locked up. I always kept the pistol grip shotgun by the side of the bed. I grabbed my shotgun towards the back I'm walking through the living room to get to the kitchen, to go to the sliding list or put the floodlights on in the backyard to see what's out there, because
that's the kind of guy I am. I think somebody's on my property or something doesn't feel right, I'm gonna go out and see what's not right. I don't want to be surprised when I'm as sleep, you know. So as I'm walking out of the bedroom with the flow grip shotgun, I hear a little voice in my head saying, don't go don't do this, don't go out there, don't put those lights on, because you're not gonna like what you say. So I do something which is totally out of a norm
from me. I turn around, I go back to bed, I put the gun back, and I go to sleep. This is not me by any stretch of my imagination. I don't know why I do this, but I do it. And the next morning I got up, I go to work, I come home. Now we had just laid new line down, well lined well lines to the house, you know, from the from the well, so that the lawn was ripped up. There was a lot of just todd dirt, you know. So I don't know if I sent you
the photograph of the picture of the bedroom window with the claw marks. I walked over in the back and I said, you know what, let me see if I couldn't see if there are any tracks on that dirt. You
know, it's fresh dirt. And when I went into the backyard, there in the dirt underneath the window because the line run basically right underneath my bedroom window, right to the pump because our water pump is in the basement, and right underneath the bedroom went there three claw marks underneath the bedroom window. Like yeah, I was here, you know, And I was like, oh wow, this is crazy, you know what I mean. And I'm
thinking, what's going on? Why is this thing coming to me? Because you know, every fiber of my being told me what was out there I knew when I touched that wall was out there. It wasn't a squatch, you know, and I don't know, it was just I was like, well, and so then I'm talking to Brian and Brian's like, you know what's going on here? Right? And I'm like I think so? And he goes, what do you think's going on? Now? I go, I think because I was drawn back to It's Den, something pulled me back
to It's Den that it followed me home. It's like, okay, you know where I live now, I know where you live. Now. This Creature's Den is not that far from my house and you could probably get there through the woods about ever crossing any main roads, you know. So again
called Brian. I tell Brian what's going on. Brian says, that's crazy, you know, why don't you go into the backyard, and said, I don't know, you know, it was like everything you know, I'm that, I'm that guy I walked towards danger, you know what I mean. I got to make sure that if something's gonna get in, it's got to get through me. I'm not going to leave my family home, you know, sitting ducks, you know. And that's just when my father brought
me up. You know, you got to protect your family, do it. If you got to die for your family, you got to die for your family. But you protect your family. So, you know, I tell Brian, and Brian's like freaking out. I'm showing them that's the claw marks underneath the picture of the window, the bedroom wind and all this stuff, and he's freaking out. So then a couple of weeks go by and it's getting colder, and I'm going out in the mornings to start the car
again. As I get up for thirty in the morning, I want to get the car warmed up before you get in it. And we were having issues with wild packs of dogs through the neighborhood, tearing up the garbages and stuff. Okay, So I started going out with a little pocket knife, like a four inch six inch pocket knife and a can of pepper spray because I figured, if the dogs come come after me, I'm taking one of them with me. I'm not going to be a you know, a statistic
on a government chart, you know what I mean. I'm not going out there at four o'clock in the morning and get molled by pack of wild dogs. So I go out to start the car, and that particular day, all the cars were in the driveway and it was like my daughter's car, and my wife's car, my son's car, and then my car. So my car was the furthest away from the garage, furthest away from the deck.
And as I came down the front steps, the central lights went on and then again an and I just had a feeling that there was something behind me, but I didn't know what it was. So I stopped the car up and I let the car run, and car's running, and as I started to walk back towards the house to go back inside to get my coffee and everything ready to go to work, I see I go like this underneath the sensualize, you know, I'm blocking my eyes. I see like a
shadow underneath the deck, and I'm like, what's under my deck? And I was like, oh no, this is this is no good, you know what I mean to be. I don't know, maybe some homeless guy stumbled in and sleeping underneath my deck. And I got my wife's car here and my daughter's car, So flip open the knife, take out the pepper spray, and I start walking towards this shadow under my deck. I passed my son's car, pass my wife's car, and I'm just at the front
of my daughter's cars on a car link away from the deck. And again the little voice in my head says, you should stop right there. It's not safe for you to go any further. And I'm like, and again I stopped. Again. This is totally out of the ordinary for me. So I turned around and I go inside. Oh no, Early, I'm sorry. Earlier that morning, when I got up, I opened up the sliding List store. We had an outside cat called Cali. Again, this
cat is seven pounds sucking went. I opened up the sliding List store four o'clock in the morning for thirty and I feed Cali. That's what we do every morning, close the door up, blocking down my eight sliding lift store acausse I'm from. The city has three different lines on it, right, you know, because when we moved up here to the country, there's no street lights, there's no nothing, there's no sidewalks. It's dark, you
know. And so we were used to at my wife and I, so I opened up the sliding glist or I feed Cali as I'm walking towards to the shadow on the day, Callie is coming around the front to do her business and my wife's garden because we've got all this nice fresh mulch there, you know. And as she turns the corner, she sees something under the deck and she does like a Halloween cat. She jumped straight up in the air and she runs off into the woods as fast as she can. And
I sort of gotten for like a seven pound cat. It sounds like a bulldozer going through the woods. She couldn't get away fast uff. And that stopped me in my trassic wall. What the hell just happened? You know? Like what it cheesy? Because I can't see it. I just set a shadow. So as I'm getting closer, I'm seeing I'm seeing the largest K nine head you've ever seen. It was not it was not a dog, it was anything. It was wolf like. It was huge. It looked like the one in the den, a really big cane on it.
And as I got closer, I started to notice that it had a main over its shoulders and down its chest. And I'm looking at this thing and I'm getting close. I'm getting pretty close to it now. Now I'm like at the just passing the front door and my daughter's car, and she had a four door car. But I mean, I'm still getting pretty good. And I'm looking at the see and I'm looking at it. And then I said, okay, you know what, I have stopped right here, and
I start to back out slowly. I back out slowly and I can walk into the house and I locked the door behind me. And now I'm thinking, what am I doing here? Am I getting a gun? Am I going back outside? Am I going to a war with this thing? She'd wake up my son and my son in law. And this way we could go out there with three, you know, three three high powered rifles.
And I said, but I've heard enough stories I'm vic sherll that if you go to work with these things, it doesn't and the wealth for are you? And I'm debating with myself what am I doing? And I say, you know what, I'm not going to go to warm with this thing. I'm gonna just leave it alone. But on the way out the front door, I grandma tactical flesh light and I hit underneath the deck to see what
was under there. Now there's nothing under the deck. I go under the deck and this thing had pissed all over my retaining wall and into my driveway into the water. The water drain into driveway and it stinks like pneumonia, and it's oily and it's slick, and it's just I'm like, what the hell. I was pissed because I just had this brand new rotating wall put up and this thing pissed all over my wall, you know. And I know this is a sign of territory, you know. He's telling me this
is it's territory. And I'm like, now, I don't think so. And I get in the car. I said, you know what, my son and Laisia, my son is here. Everybody knows what the guns are, everybody knows what ammunition is. Something goes down. They got the women covered. I get in the car and I drive to work. I call Brian, tell them what happened. And Brian's freaking out and he's like, dude, you gotta be kidding me. Camp to your house. I'm like, dude, I'm telling you. This thing was underneath my front deck.
It had the biggest head you ever seen. Now. I didn't see any eyeshine, I didn't see any teeth, I didn't see any hands. But what I've seen was a huge thing like bent over. But I was, but you can see the main So I get to work. I work an hour away from home, an hour and change away from I get to work, I get there early. I like to get there early to unwind for the ride, have a cup of coffee, read the paper, chill out. I get to work. My wife closed me up, hysterical. But
what's going on? She's like, I was. Then to kitchen, went my son, my son Nick, she was the kitchen went Nick. And I went to open the flying glass door to feed Callie. And I was like, when you feeding CALLI again for a federat for thirty, you know. And but that's why my wife says, she's a feeder, right, So so she goes. But the whole door fell out of the frame. If my son wasn't there to catch it, it would have crushed my wife. So I think, okay, just close the door, lock it back
up. I'm off tomorrow. I'll take the whole thing out of the wall and i'll reset it, you know. So I'm thinking when I was in the front of the house looking at the yurine on the wall, it went around the back and tried to pop the flying glass door of the off the track, but it couldn't because of what locks I got on the door, you know. And he once they unlocked the door to door fall out of the track. But so I had to reset everything. And I was like,
you know, I couldn't believe that happened. I was like, man, I said, I said, I just like said I thought. I went back to the area of the den, not not the actual den, but close enough, and I just said, out into the woods, out into the universe. I said, listen, I got it. You know where I live. I know where you live. I won't come to your house anymore. You don't come to mind. I don't want to deal with you anymore. I'm not dealing with this, you know. And that was
that was the third That was the third time. The second day, the third time I had the dog man encounter. And it's like, I know, um, real quick, good that took the lake. Tiffany as said, you believe it's marking his territory. Probably stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to sea Ward right back after these messages. Absolutely, I believe that's what it was. I think it was trying to tell me that he was the Alpha and not me. Yeah, that's pretty scary. Yeah, because I
didn't know now if this thing is going to keep coming back around. That's why I made it a point to go back to his area, not exactly to where the den was, you know what I mean, but to his area and led ten and talk to the woods, talk to the universe and say listen, I got the message loud and clear. I won't come to your house. You don't come to mind. I know where you live, you know where I lived. I got it. I got it loud and clear. You know, because the next thing would have been going to war
with the creature, you know what I mean? And who wants to be able that? Yeah? Well, I mentioned last week we had missed Naoma thin On and we got off talking about Big Boot Tour or not Bigfoot dog Man toward the end of the show, and she talked about it's a pretty well known thing that there are seven types of dog man. Would you agree with that or have you heard something different? Well, I mean, I don't know exactly how many types there are. I've only seen one type,
you know what I mean. I know people have described different types, and I know they have they have classifications for these creatures, and the same thing I think for the dog man too. They have a bunch to have seven different types of dogman. I don't know. I'll be brutally honest, I don't know. Okay, because she shared she sent me a picture and I'm gonna go ahead and put it up here of the seven type we weren't. We tried to get it up last week while she was on on the live
show and it's just too hectic. Wasn't able to, but she sent it and pop it up here. Do any of those look familiar? Yes? Um, the the hyena one looks like the one that bluff charged us, and the one to the right of it. I can't really see what variant that is. Variant three. I think it says that looked like the one that was under nith my front deck, at least from at least from what I could see. You know what I mean. Do you think you saw
two different ones at your house? No? I see the hyena one was the one that bluff charged us at the late that night where we were byas then. And I say that because I the photograph. I believe I sent it to you get a photograph the snout is sweared off, you know, and it had pointy ears like like a pit bull. Years have been cropped and stuff, So I would've and when we've seen it in the den with the other one it had, it looked like just like that. The other
thing is growling Dana one. Yeah, that's what it looked like when we were filming it them in the den. That's what it was doing. It was not happy that we had found the den, and it was growling at us. I'll tell you what, man, that's not marefuel right there looking at something like that. Yeah. Well, you know, like I said, if we would have seen it what was actually bluff charging us, we probably would have died of a heart attack, you know what I mean.
I made everybody stand there ground because I thought it was a big foot and I just figured it was a bluff charge, you know, like the bears do. But if I would have seen that thing on the other side of the wall, I don't know what I would have done. Yeah. Yeah, that verse one up there, this is top three variant one. That that look was kind of apeish to me, what do you think? And
also then the three variant three kind of looks apish. Yeah, the type three Variant three looks more more like a sasquatch to me than anything else. Um, the other one looks like the first one. Variant three Type three variant one kind of looks like, uh like almost the K nine variant variant one below only standing up, you know what I mean? If you would put that one down on all fours, it would look a lot like the first one on the bottom, don't you think? Yeah? I think so.
Yeah, I just wanted to. I'll go ahead and take this down. How people come up with that? Is there someone out there that's seen all of these? Do you do you think there's anyone out there that's seen them all? I think I think there are a lot of people out there that are have excitings of different creatures all over the United States. It's just like regular dog breeds. It's like a hundred different dog. There could be a hundred different breeds of this creature as well. And the same thing with
the big foots. You know, if you look at the primate family, there's like a hundred different kind of primates. There could be a hundred different kind of big foots as well. I know a lot of people have seen the ones the big foots as far with the round heads without the conical ages round more looks like more like a caveman kind of thing, you know what I mean. But the only ones I've ever seen were the ones with except for that one I sent you the picture of that looks like it's got like
a giant head and a goatee. You know what I mean. You remember that picture I sent you? Yeah, yeah, he sent me a lot of pictures. I wasn't able to get them on but I will share those. That's fine, that's fine. Um. Yeah, So I mean, but like I said, I seen the one, the one that I got the photograph of I seen in the photograph. I didn't see him up close and personal. Like the skunk gave down in Florida, you know what I mean. I didn't know it was there until after somebody found I didn't even
find it in my photographs. Someone else found it and sent it to me. And the same thing with the dog man. I didn't know the dog man was in the photo. Because I'll tell you the truth. We waited maybe three minutes after the creature bluff charged us, and nothing came over the wall. And we jumped over that wall and we went to the edge of that ridge and looked down into the swamp, and we didn't see anything there. We didn't hear it leave. You know, we never heard anything leave.
It must have creeped back down the ridge and into the swamp, but we didn't hear it leave. And we were hearing stuff walking around all night because of all the leaf litter from the from the from the fall, and when we didn't hear that thing leave. Man, And so I mean, I'm just thankful that I didn't see see it that night, you know what I mean? Yeah, And Tiffany's got a question for you. Absolutely, do you think like bigfoot that they're looking differs based on location. That's a
good question. Yeah, I do. I think I think that different there are different types, um, depending on you know, where they are across the country. But but I say that, but I also think that that those different types may be all over the country, you know what I mean. Yes, So I guess the answer is yes and no. Yeah, yeah, because you know you hear about with bigfoot out the Pacific Northwest.
You hear you think Patty and you know how Patty looks Patterson gimblin at them and then down here in the South where I'm at, closer to Florida, they get they tend to be a little bit smaller and more aggressive I've heard. I mean, I don't I don't know. But the one I see what's small, but he was aggressive, you know, and by no means small, but smaller than the ones in the Pacific lest yeah, I mean,
I don't know. The photograph I have of the big guy underneath the tree watching us of his if his head is any any indication how big he is, then he wants to have been bigger than the one I've seen down in Florida. And like I said, I've seen a bunch of them. I seen them sunning themselves. I see, I see, and most of the ones I see, all I have. They looked black from a distance, but when you get closer to him out the light shines on them.
They all have like a reddish tint to their to their care or whatever, you know. And and they're all there, and they're all seemed to be, at least the ones I've seen up here. The white one I've seen up here was again, you know, but he was down in a ditch and he was leaning over onto the tree because he was getting ready across the parkway. He looked to be at least seven eight feet tall, the one
I see and sunning himself on the rocks. Um. I thought he was small from the distance I was at because you know, I figured if he was big, he would take up the whole rock, you know, cover. But when we went actually Brian and I went up to the rock to look at it. The rock was you monks, it was he just so I was like, no, this thing must have been bigger than I thought, because there was even as big as this rock is. He covered three
quarters of it, you know. So they're they're big up here, like I had someone from the Pacific Northwest, a friend of mine came here one time and he was um up in the Atarondex and he did like a helicopter tour, you know. And he and he said, man, he said, I you know, I hear you hear in New York. You think in Manhattan, right, he said. When I when I first time I seen the Aderondex, he said to me, it looks just like the Pacific
Northwest. He goes, and he goes, I can't believe how much you know how wooded New York State is like, oh, yeah, the Autamrondex is like four million acres or something like that. It's ridiculous, you know. So and it's all mountaintops and think goes it goes up like, uh, you know, thousands of feet up, you know. So, I mean it's just a few, a few with a few. Was to look at the Adirondics from from the sky, it would look exactly at the Pacific
Northwest, you know. And I'm sure there are plenty of places between here and there, like down south that if you go and you look at the all these mountains and everything, with all these wood and everything, it all looks it all looks, you know, like a mountainous range, like like the Pacific Northwest as well, like the Rocky Mountains. Yeah, and you know, you think of when you think of the State of Georgia down here in the south, you think Atlanta line is one of the bigger cities in
the country. But it blew me away when I heard something like seventy percent of the State of Georgia is forested. You know, it's for us, it's woods. So how much, yeah, how much of this country is actually forested that we don't get to see we don't step foot into those areas. You need to tell me that something can't be hidden and living out in all of these places. Yeah, you know, I had to. I
had that number at one point. I want to say, like seventy e either seventy or seven hundred million acres of the United States as far as I had that number at one time somewhere in one of my research beds, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's a ridiculous
number. It's so huge. We were supposed to have Lisa on it and our a producer, and that would be something that's gonna be something we can do in the future, as we'll have her to jump on and look that up for us real quick, because something like that, like how many acres is uninhabited in the in the United States? Yeah, I think I pulled up I went to the Forestry and I looked up in the United States Forestry, you know what I mean, how many And it said, I want
to say, either seventy million or seven hundred million. Like I said, the number was humongous. And you just when you hear that number and how big those numbers are, and you know, everybody thinks there's no woods left in the United States because of the big cities. Yeah, man, and there is this country itself is like nine covered in woods, you know what I mean, just the United States, never mind once you get up to Canada or something, you know. Yeah, So yeah, I know it's
crazy. The number. It's a crazy number, a crazy nar. I used to have that number of the top of my head because I always wanted to do because I had the number. So the Adirondecks, which I believe are four million acres, and I'm in the southern tier of the Catskill Mountain Range, and there's Catskill Mountain Range. Just the Catskill Mountain Range, which is considered a small range compared to the out of Rundicks, is like five
hundred thousand acres, you know what I mean. So yeah, my buddy, buddy flat Rock here says Alabama has approximately twenty three million acres of forest, which is about sixty nine percent of the state's area, and more than ninety three percent it's privately owned. It's a little kind of room for these things to behind. Oh yeah, no, there's there's room. There's room for these things and a lot of other things as well, because you know,
I've seen. I've seen other things as well, you know, on the parkway four thirty in the morning, you know what I mean, I've seen I've seen a rake out there one time. And you know, again, I thought, you know, I thought I was hallucinating when I seen
it, when I seen the white sasquatch. I can't tell you how many times went back to that same location to look, just to not only double check, but triple and quadruple check, because you know, you your brain can't comprehend what you're seeing when your eyes are seeing when you see these things, they really it really can't because they're not supposed to be out there. You know. See what Tiffany's put up here. And once you put on
one point nine billion acres, is that what it is? That's yeah, I told you it's a big number, man, is you know what I mean, it's it's crazy, It's absolutely crazy. Yet so, um, there's there's stuff out there. Yeah, there's stuff out there. You thank me for that, Tiffany, Thank you, Tiffany. Absolutely. Um. So I mean you know, good, there are these things out there. Yes, And like I tell everybody, and I tell everybody when you when you go out into the woods swatching, or if you want to go to
research a dog man, which I would recommend you not do. I don't research you dogment. I got to Augment signed up behind me. But we just take reports now, you know what I mean, because I don't want any any more more of them come into my house. And so it's just I tell people all the time, when you go into the woods, protect yourself spiritually and protect yourself physically, because you don't know what you're going to
encounter when you're in the woods. You know. And when I'm out there scouting out new locations and I see families hiking through the woods and the mother and father are on the phone and the kids are running off, you know, one hundred feet ahead of them, and they're not paying to any attention. It's you know, it's not my place to tell people how to raise their children. But man, you go around one of those turns and those
kids are gone, what are you gonna do? Or you go around one of those turns and you come across the mountain lion or a hungry black bear, you know what I mean. Black bears up here are six feet tall, five pounds. You you run across one of them when they just wake up in the spring and they're starving. You could be dinner. You know, there's there's no doubt about it. And we got mountain lions up here, and we got wolves up here, and you know, of course the
forest we Depharmer says, no, there's no such thing. But we get him on my Thundelow got him on game trail, his game cameras where he goes, you know, hunting, deer hunting. He's got him. He's got him on his game camp, you know what I mean. So they're here. They're here. Yeah, all right. That that's some really really good advos. They're on a good, good spot. To end it, we've gone over an hour, so before we get out of here, tell everybody where they can find you and and all that stuff. Yeah, you
can find me most of them. I'm mostly on Facebook, the Bronxville Power and Normal Society, the Facebook group, the Facebook page, UM the New York State Dog and Project to New York State Sasquatch Organization and the New York State UFO Project as well, and UM, you know that's where I am. You want if you have if you have any questions and you want to get a hold of me. You can contact me and a messenger. I'll be more than happy to answer anything you have. You know, I'm pretty
pretty easy, accessible kind of guy. Yeah, I will attest to that. Always responds quickly and he's easy to get a hold of. Just a really good guy and a great guest. I appreciate you coming on again. How wait till you hear what happens to us, me and Brian when he tells you about his dog Man's story is experience our well, it was our experience. But I'll let him tell it because you know he really enjoys selling that one. All right, buddy, I appreciate it. Appreciate it coming
on again, and have a good night. Good night. They say you don't got him, go home, but you can't stay and I don't want to be alone. World out trying to try that time everything calling right back, right back, my joy for me to stay right now. I'm coming right away. Time back for collings us to us. I am