Greetings, fellow seekers of the unknown. It's Brian and I'm here today to share something truly extraordinary with all of you. As you know, my journey to uncover the truth of all things strange has taken me on a wild ride filled with incredible experiences and encounters with the unseen. And today I want to share that journey with all of you by introducing you to Hanger one Publishing. Hanger one Publishing is the premier destination for books on all things strange and mysterious,
from Bigfoot to cryptids, UFOs and the paranormal. They cover it all, and let me tell you, the books in their catalog are simply amazing. One book that I'm particularly excited about is The Freeman Bigfoot Files by Michael Paul Freeman. This is no ordinary book, my friends. This is an immersive experience unlike any other. With Hanger One's proprietary immersive book technology, you
can see and hear audio and video in the printed books. You'll get exclusive access to the highest resolution, full color premium print pages, over a hundred full color photos, and dozens of exclusion audio and video clips that have never been revealed until now. It's a one of a kind experience that will take you deep into the world of Bigfoot. Another book that I simply can't recommend
enough is The Bigfoot Influencers by Tim Halleran. This book features candid, compelling conversations with the biggest names in the Bigfoot community and it will give you a behind the scenes look at what they really think about this mysterious creature. You'll hear from researchers, scientists and investigators and get a glimpse into the inner workings of the bigfoot world. And finally, for all of my fellow British Bigfoot
enthusiasts, I want to mention Beast of Britain by Andy McGrath. This book is a must read for anyone interested in the cryptids of the British Isles. McGrath has spent over twenty five years researching and obsessing about these unknown creatures, and in this book he shares his findings and current research. It's a journey into the darkness where nobody ventures into the woods anymore and where the many yet
to be discovered Beasts of Britain lie. So if you're ready to take your journey into the unknown to the next level, then you need to check out Hanger one Publishing. These books are more than just books. They're gateways into a world of mystery and discovery. And the best part. You can find their entire book catalog and Hanger one Publishing dot com. So what are you waiting for? Visit Hanger one Publishing dot com today and let the journey begin.
Now. I know what your reporting. I got a strain of going on here. Something just killing my dog. Something killed your dog, my dog. We're flying to or over the trade. I don't know how it did it, okay, dam and I'm really confused. Also, I thought my dog coming over the fence, and they would have did when you hit the growler. I entertaining cards And although I thought it was my dog coming over the fen what are you putting? We gotta some one or something crawling
around out here? You see what it ending up. I'm out here looking through the window now and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Jesus, point you body, Carol deal, Hello, get somebody out here. What point on the outare? It's thought up a bit about sixty four nine. I don't know he seeming the outtare. Yeah, I'm looking right here um, everybody, this is less Drive. Yes, yes,
I know aka Surviving Man. Can you listen to Brian's botch Onnyson You guys will welcome back to Sasquatchots. Thank you so much for flicking play. It is Wednesday. I hope you gays are having a great week. I have an amazing show lined up or you put as always, I want to start by inviting you. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email you get me a Brian at Parentimalworldproductions dot com. Can head over to the website, check it out, become
a member there and help support the show. As I said, we've got an awesome show lined up for you. This is actually an interview that Wayne and Lisa did with Johnny Tucker from North Carolina, and they discussed all of his amazing research that he's been doing and some of the amazing stuff that he's been capturing. So I'll let them get into that in just a second.
If you haven't already done so, please take time to rate and review the show wherever you're listening to the podcast, and make sure you follow us on Instagram at sasquatch Odyssey. Check us out and follow us on TikTok at Sasquatch Odyssey podcast, and we would love to have you join us in the Sasquatch Odyssey Fans group on Facebook. Make sure you tune back in on Friday. We have one of the most amazing interviews that I think, guy I've ever
done. We've got Dan on the show and he's a hunter and he is going to tell you one of the most amazing encounter stories that frankly I have ever heard. You definitely don't want to miss that. But I know you guys are anxious to get into this show, so I'm gonna stop talking. You gotta sit back, relax and enjoy the show. Hey, Lisa Wayne audience of her normalodasey, thank you, thank you for having me on. Yes, sir, Yes, they're been looking forward to this for a very
very long time. My first podcast. Yeah, I'm glad that you you clarified that I was pretty sure that that's what you had said. So I am honored that you chose to choose this one to come on, because thank you, because you know, in all seriousness, you have been catching some really really cool stuff out in North Carolina. What's the name of that is that the Uari National Forest. No, we are we are east of the
ui or up in the Upper Coastal Plain. And the center of the activity that that I research and a couple other guys is based around a place. It's it's a rural state park. It's called Meadoc Mountain State Park. Mead Doc's but Meadock. And it's not necessarily in the park because all throughout the area it's pretty rural. It's got just thousands of thousands of acres of woods and bluff, swamps, creeks. It's a it's a very secluded area.
Telling the people, the audience and everyone. And I'm gonna take this and upload it to podcast form as well. If it we'll reach quite a few more people that way that people check out. If you any chance you get, check out Johnny Tucker stuff. It's really really cool. He's doing a great job. I've been trying for a couple of years to convince him to join animal research, but he's doing his own thing out there, and I
can't blame him for that. Johnny, tell everybody how you got your start in this crazy world of bigfoot research and how long ago how you got your start. And yeah, well, back in the nineteen seventies when I was just a toddler, we went to our parents took us through a couple of movies. I believe one was called Sasquatch and the other one was Creature from Black Lake. Doesn't really get a lot of talk, but it was a good movie. In between that and In Search of and the Lazy day afternoon
movie of Boggy Creek. It kind of got me, got my interest in it. But there's only one thing that was wrong. I was a city slicker. I was born and raised in a big city. So we me and my wife moved down to North Carolina about twenty years ago, did some research. Actually, we moved to the eastern part of North Carolina. A lot of people don't relater associate eastern coast with Bigfoot, more or less look toward toward the western part of the state with all the mountains. But uh,
yeah, we have activity off this way. Yeah, you certainly do. Normally, I wait a little bit to get into the evidence. You've got so much of it. You requested that we show a couple of these prints first, so I've got those pretty much light out in order I believe of what you wanted, I'm gonna pump this one up here, and you let me know if that's where you want to start, okay. September twenty twenty, it had rained the night before, and I got a hold of
myself and two other people. I went to there's a well, I'll just I'll just come back a little bit the Meatock Mountain State Park. It's thirty nine acres and there's only really less than ten trails to do that, so there's a lot of just just wooded hidden areas. There's a creek that runs through the park, and that's the activities kind of centered either side of the creek. Now, we had it a random night before down in my house.
It was about like ten o'clock to midnight. So I met up with myself and two other people and just was walking down an old service road. You take the service road, you get down to the back trails out toward the mountain, and sure enough, we were actually looking for prints because the ground was pretty moist and it was eight thirty in the morning. That is the one print we found, and I think we have a casting of that that might be a right foot. What it looked like it was doing was
Yeah, that's the casting. It was walking along the service road and it either had stepped accidentally into or just like walking along the side of the surface road. It took its right foot. It stepped in a mud spot where we got that print, went down to the creek, and the embankment of the creek is all wet and all muddy. You can actually see a slid print going down to the creek. It had to come back up the same
way, and it had stopped in another spot with its left foot. We didn't we couldn't be able to get the casting of the left foot, and from there not too sure where it went to. And that was September twenty twenty. Okay, Johnny, uh this next print, you're ready for me to pull it up? Yeah? Sure, that was a recent one that
was in August of this year. I'm sorry of last year. Last year we really didn't have too much rain over here was a real dry, dry summer, so the creek level dropped all the way down to within a foot or so. And in the summertime I've been noticing strange footprints up in the creek. It it's in an area that we usually get the tree knocks and the trees fallen, and it's basically around the same size. So I'm going
back and forth. Is it a person because the creek is so low, it's roughly the same size twelve and a half to thirteen, which it could be something the activities there. So I was basically just keeping an eye on that area for probably about three or four weeks, and we had a little bit of a rain, so the creek on the other side was a little
a little bit wet. Went there one afternoon, I was actually meaning another guy there, went there about four thirty in the afternoon, was going down this trail to the creek, and I was probably about fifty feet from our side of the creek when you hear this knock on into a tree and the tree starts to fall. I mean it was a loud whack, and then you hear the fibers of the tree falling. You can hear something back not
close to the creek though, but it's back. If you go back little ways, you start to get up into the bluffs walking around back there, so I kind of froze in my tracks. Didn't know exactly what was going on, so I went down stream, set up a reporter like I usually do, and by the time I got back to that spot where the tree got hit up on our side, the one investigator actually made it there.
I put my hip waiters on, got down into the creek and found that print on the other side and he's listening and he's actually hearing something back still moving around back there, and it was a breaking breaking branches. You can hear it going through the leaves. It didn't come up to me, you know, up up to the creaking. Mainly just stayed back there. So that was one interesting that was the sye. Actually that's the start of that
night there. So when we left the area it was probably about six thirty. We had a good tree knock on a recorder about a half an hour later. I think it's a day day knocker that that you have afternoon knock, that you have way day knock. You're not sure which one it's it's called, because let me just break in right here and say that Johnny and I've been working on this together trying to set up a you know, the best show that we can to to display what he's catching. So we have
several audio clips. I'm gonna be playing, but while we were waiting to come on, Johnny was having a hard time hearing those. So I'm gonna go ahead and play one now, and audience members and Lisa help me and let me know if if maybe it's just Johnny set up because in the past we haven't had trouble playing audio. So I'm gonna try one real quick, but I'm gonna look for that one you said, what day knock? Is that what you said? Yeah, da day knicker afternoon knock. I think
i'll label it. Okay, I've got sever we're here, so I'm going through them. About seven seconds. I think knock afternoon. Yeah, there you go. Is that it? Okay? Let's try this. Can y'all hear that? Okay? I spoke over it, so I'm gonna play it again. It's only five seconds long. We cut it up a little bit and I'm gonna play it again. Lisa, are you hearing it? Yeah? I can hear it. Can you hear the knock? Okay, let's do it one more time. To me, that sounds like was it raining?
Johnny? No, No, it was just an average summer day, nice and nice and clear, hot Muggie still meaning like totally still. Okay, what's the audience saying, Lisa, can they hear it? Tippy could hear Sandrick could hear Carson could hear it, Danny could hear it? Okay? Yeah, Johnny and I were talking. He he bought a new setup for the show. He's got an awesome blue Yeddie mic right there. But
I guess having some issues with Johnny stuff coming through. So as long as you guys can hear it, Johnny Oles can hear it, that's good.
I've heard a thousand times. Yeah, all right. So that knock was a half an hour after we left the area because we went back to our campsite because we're gonna go out that night and at midnight, well, I'll back up, just going over the past years and listening to audio stuff and finding like a smaller footprint up in that area and also a shelter, I got a good feeling that there's like a juvenile that's hanging out back there. So you got that knock, and then at midnight is where I think it's
calling the owls. Where are you going to go to next there? Yeah, the juvenile calling the owls. Listen to the tone of the voice it's it's a it's a higher pitch. To me, it's almost sounds like a little child juvenile ill. Okay, I heard at that time over my end, Oh did you okay? Yeah? What do you off thing? What do you think about that? Lisa? Um a couple of questions, Um, I could hear I could hear him call in that that? The Owls finally started answering, correct, yes, right, yeah, that's where it
again? Yeah, okay, where you want to go now? So later on and night, I don't think he had the audio clip of this, but about six am, quarter to seven in the morning, you know, I got something kind of like walking through the area, and probably about ten minutes later we got a good another good tree knock it was. That was close to seven am. I got all those on my website metac bigfoot dot com. But if you show the smaller print, the juvenile print I got
a few summers ago, and also the show that I found. Um, I'm not sure I've got I've got one more print that I can show because you're kind of limited on I do have it? Is that what you're saying, Yeah, yeah, you should have it? Well, I mean you sent several but I wasn't able to put on all of them on here, so okay, this is the other one. Yeah, yeah, I definitely look smaller. I's eight inches and a six inches wide. Found that in
a creek bed two twenty twenty read in the middle of the summertime. It was a short creek bed um, and it was going toward the creek, down an embankment and toward the creek. Okay, I also got another one back in that area. Didn't really turn out too good. Um, I should have picked the pine straw from from the photo, but I kind of had a trick it a little bit. Uh. In uh twenty twenty, we had a lot of rain in the creek basically overflowed probably about three or
four times, and is it drained back down. It took a lot of the in this one area. It took a lot of the pine straw and all that pine bark and leaves, and it kind of pushed the read out. And what it did was it left a huge mud bed. It was it's got to be about six feet wide but about twenty feet long. And suck a couple of apples right smack dab in the middle one time, just to see what we're coming near and grab it and put two up in the front, two up in the back. The two in the back were still
there, and you can see a little like a little raccoon prints. The two up in the front totally gone, nothing absolutely around it for like two feet. And then you see this impression in the mud at what it looked like was a left foot step, but the majority of the footprint was the like the toes and in the ballpark was stuck in the mud were I would imagine that the weight if it was having the apples that it's it's stepped down with its left foot, put its weight forward and then snatched them up.
But that's uh. That was another eight inch print read up around that area. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to Seaward right back after these messages, guys, I'm telling you, you know, every episode that we do. I'm looking at my computer here and I've got my other computer to the left, and I've got my TV, a TV mounted up above me right here, and I'll look, I'm looking at the picture of that print on the
hd TV. This the picture that you're getting or here on your phone or on your computer does not do it justice it the quality, it's pretty fresh. Yeah, it was, it was. It was pretty good. It was a good footprint. If you guys get a chance to watch it on a TV on a high depth television, go back and look at this print. I'm I'll pop it up there one more time. Yeah, that's the definition on these things are incredible. Well, the big toe is what stands out to me, the big toe, and then and then the mud,
the the the actual mud between the other toes. Yeah, human would stepped down and you get that kind of like squishy between your big toe and your other toes. Yeah. Carson's got a good question here, Johnny. How do you feel when you first see these tracks? Your emotions? It's justifying.
It's uh, all these hours of audio and tree knocks and finding uh tree breaks and axes, it's uh, it's kind of like getting a little bit of the Holy grill finding finding footprints, Finding footprints and a good footprint is is very special. Yep. That's that's a great way to describe it, right there, Johnny. I found several tracks while I've been doing this, and I don't know that I found any that look as good as that, So I can't really speak to what my emotions would be if I found
one that breash and that d tailed. So I mean those are really really impressive. Yeah, you wanted to pull up some possible net. Yeah, that's right. I've got a couple here. I mean, pull this one up. First. I was back in that area about two months beforehand. That was not there, and it was well. When I went back in the area, it was still the end of wintertime, going in in spring because I think that might be May. And I come back about two months
later and that that is there. Oh wow, and it's um the area doesn't flood back there, so the sticks and everything couldn't be piled up with with water. It almost looks like it was placed there. And you can see like a little kind of like a little cubbyhole kind of entrance in there. And it was probably about i'd see about six feet long, and it's it can't be more than about three feet wide. Uh. I wonder if maybe were you by yourself, Johnny, Oh yeah, yeah, myself.
Yeah, well you you got a bigger sack than me. Let me just go ahead and say that part in the language. People. I'm sorry about that, but um, because I don't like to go out by myself, especially when you know that there's activity. But I was just thinking if you had another person with you, maybe have them stand beside it to take a picture to kind of gauge the size this one? Is this a different one?
Right here? The same one? It's the same one. Okay, So, Johnny, were you I'm assuming you at least looked in there. I don't. I wouldn't. Yeah, I looked inside with a flashlight and all that. I didn't see any hair. But it is dry in there, so if if if a rain or a light rain would come down, it's it still is dry inside there. But I didn't find any heir or anything inside. Yeah, that's why I asked that, because it seems like a really good place to get some e DNA, if not legitimate DNA.
Right right, Okay, where where you gonna go next? Johnny? What? What else? What else? Are you got? Some tree knocks the trees that are getting hit by are the uh the knocks that are actually breaking the trees? I think I sent you about three of them. Yeah, I got some close by knocks. Trees tree hit maybe tree hit okay, knock afternoon close by knock. We're gonna do the close by knock. Yeah, and play it one more time, Julie. Are are y'all hearing a
thing? Yeah, a grunt or like a like a whoop from a differ from a maybe a distance off. Play it again, Johnny, did you pick up on that? No, that sucks. You can't hear it. Let's hear what the audience has to say. Let's play it again before and after the knob. Yeah, that was just a recent one too. That was back in February thirteenth of this year, about nine ten at night. I wonder if that audience members let us know if y'all heard that. Sanders
got a question? Yeah, Johnny, are you armed when you go out? I was not armed the first time, and after hearing a my first time out, I was basically just like a newbie and I did. Ah. It was a great in the middle of October. It was a real hot summer that year or twenty nineteen. I went out there and it had like about a foot little tire thumper that you get at like a truck stopper or so. I did a couple of tree knocks where I parked my car.
I went down this one trail did one single tree knock when I was going down and then my plan of attackle was just rolling nice and quiet and see what happens. The trail goes down to a creek about five minutes later and got to the creek, started going downstream, low tree knock up on the bluff on the other side, calm conditions. After that, I start caring a pistol with me. Smart, very smart. Yeah. Got a question, Okay, do you review your videos in zoom frame by frame?
I see lots of beings there. I don't really buy into that kind of stuff, the paraphernalia. Yeah, not not too much because I'm out there so I got a good feeling for the whole area. So if you look at a picture and your zoom in you see something and I'm like, wow, I don't think it was there. But if you see the picture and
I don't really buy answer that though. That's a good question, though, yeah, yeah, I mean it makes you question things, and like you said a lot of times that you know the area that you're in, and it's yeah, it's best not to second guess yourself all right on stuff like that. Okay, we got one, uh knock afternoon. You want to go with that one? Yeah, sure, I think you already played that one. How about okay, daytime tree fall or tree hidden fall. There's
a whistle here? Oh yeah, the whistle. We got that back in December. Okay, yeah, I'm not seeing those other Do you see when that says power knock? Yes, I do. Let's go ahead and get that one. Let roll. It looks like a cluster, yeah, it looks it sounds like it maybe tap the tree and then hit the tree twice and then a tree falls. Let's do that again. To me, it almost sounds like a tree snapping and falling, like cracking as it's falling. Let's do it again. Yeah. That was June twenty twenty one, two
fifteen in the morning. Oh wow, that late fifteen am. Day knock fall. Oh yeah, that's a good one too. And okay, and then we'll do tree hit and fall after that. So this is the day knock fall. I thought I heard a whoop there at the beginning of that one too. Yeah, play that again. I am one more time, saint. Yeah, yeah, just at two seconds. Then you really get able whoop? Did you notice that? Johnny here, I haven't known that was it that was five thirty in the evening too? In the evening.
Something I'm really impressed with before we go on to the next one, Johnny, is your attention to detail. You're telling us what time these things happened and where and the weather conditions. And that's the sign of a really, really good researcher. I definitely that's something I need to improve on, and myself is the diligent note taking. What's your background, Johnny, what's my background? Yeah? I went to school a couple of years for electrical engineering,
but now I worked for the railroad system. Okay, what one with that day? Knockfall? Yes, right, Okay, so we're gonna tree hitting fall now. Yeah. Again. You can hear it at the end. I guess the sounded a bit falling. It kind of sounds like fireworks a little bit, but it's the leaves falling through the other leads. It's really cool. This one here says well loop Child vocal places is really really good from getting. I mean, it's not only just bigfoot, but it's
also paranormal stuff. Got EVPs Uh, this this is a ghost child. This is probably the better of the two that I've gotten. But also you've gotten the ladies speak, Um, I got one just actually less two months ago. It's real faint and you I'm not sure she's talking English though, and she says a couple of words and then she kind of like, uh, does a little tone almost like she's singing. But that's probably the best EVP i've gotten. It's a ghost child. Okay, let's play that.
There's something there again. Let's play it again. What time was that, Johnny? I think it's about ten o'clock at night. That's quell the woods. But it also there was a huge thunderstorm that was approaching the area, So I don't know if that kind of generated it's singing. It sounded like it's kind of like I was gonna say, it almost sounds sing songy exactly. Glad y'all said that, And I didn't have to, because that that's what I was thinking. Something a lady singing is what it sounds about.
If you're out in the woods ten o'clock at not ten o'clock, it's very dark in the south, Um, and you hear some woman singing out in the middle of no, Oh, it's time to go. That's I'm gonna do it A couple more times. Yeah, that's crazy, pretty good. Yeah, I'm singing a question here from Daniel Jackson. Daniel probably came in light and didn't see that. We ask everyone to capitalize, to put the
questions in all caps. That's probably why you're not seeing at leasta. No that that's fine, Daniel, any more questions, Try to put them in all caps, please, buddy. Why do you think they keep knocking down trees? I think the time that we were there in August, the one that you play, they hit the tree and oh you didn't be didn't play a book. We went down to the creek. If there was the juvenile on our side of the creek back up in the woods, I think it
was either sending a message just to kind of like a warning. Other than that, I'm not sure show of strength. If there's nobody out there at nighttime, why would you hit a tree and so hard that the tree would fall. I mean, the majority of the tree knocks that I hear out there, either in person or have an audio record or a single knocks, and I pretty much I kind of it's it's like a locator. That's that's
that's my view on it. Either they'll knock and then you'll get a one uh in the distance either knocking back, or if they're walking through an area, they'll knock single knocks, just trying to get an idea of before they are. Yeah, Daniel, Daniel the one to just ask that question. That is Daniel Jackson. I've interviewed him a couple of times. He is a spirit medium. Um. He commented that right here that may be spirit singing. That's what I would think. Yeah, what is the history of
that land? I mean, it's a it's a park, right, it's it's it's a state park. Um, there was there was a lot of mining back in the Civil War era, probably about time. Ten miles away from the park, they did some ore mining and also some gold mining. I talked to one of the guys is that now owns one of the gold operations there. They said that the shafts have been all blowing up, but
there's five miles of tunnels somewhere if you can find it. But he said that probably the state has got some kind of laser sensors in the opening, you know, to two detects something going in there. But just this family owned area, I would imagine Native Americans were or there. That was my next question if there was any Native American activity on that. So, Johnny, you're saying that there's a cave system there, we were wondering where are
they hiding? I mean, it's it's either back in the woods, you know, or ducking down in some kind of caves and stuff like that. So when we've seen that there's abandoned gold mines ten miles from the place, you know, that wouldn't that kind of make sense if there's some some kind of mining underground tunnels somewhere. That's that's a hot question in the big food community is is do they go in minds? I think they and I'm sorry, through caves. I think they do. I think that's where they're staying.
That's why we don't see them that much. A lot of people, especially a guy that I met early on I really respected, He absolutely refused to believe that they stayed in caves. And his thinking was, they're so elusive and they stay away from us and stay hidden, so well, why would they ever back themselves into a corner and back themselves out? You know, so they can't get out basically, But my thinking is they know though
they have to know those cave systems better. They have to know where they can go, where they can easily get you know, in and out and pluses if it's way back in the woods or way back up in the bluffs. I mean, what human is going to go back there kind of exploring it and looking for it exactly. Well, here in Arkansas, we've got so many wild cave systems and the state you know, kind of maps them out and like what you said, the state will put greats over the pave
entries to you know, keep people out because there's petroglyphs in there. There's you know, endangered salamanders. We've got the ozaric hell bender. It's like this big salamander that we're trying, this endangered species that they're keeping people out. But that's that's that's singing. I keep circling back of that. That that's crazy. End. You have the pictures of the other campsite at the
orb behind the cap. I do. I'm going to get to that, but before we do, we have got hit with several kind of questions. Do some of those real quick? Go ahead? Lisa Johnny thoughts on elementals. I'm pretty open minded, um, I wouldn't rule it out. I really haven't really looked into the subject at all, but I'm open minded, level headed, so sure, okay, and tree knocks for a form of communication, a warning of hunters, hikers, et cetera. Don't you,
Danny state stating, great question, thank you? Yeah? Do you agree with that? Johnny? Yes? Yes, I think we all do. Yeah, yeah, sure do All right, we had Tiffany had one? Where'd she go? I got it right here? Okay, just a basic do you ever get creeped out? Uh? Not in that area? When I'll make the short story short. When it's probably about my third time hiking by myself, I was carrying so too thirty in an afternoon. I was
on a trail that's about two miles two and a half miles. It basically goes out, loops around, comes back, goes out along the creek, comes back. There is a cluster of woods where the woodline kind of comes in a bit. When I was out and starting to come back, there was an ax formation up along the surface road where it was. And for some reason, I mean, I can't explain it. It was just like like my sixth sense was just kicking in and I just I was like frozen
in my tracks. I don't know if it was anxiety for it was fear. But I managed to push through it because if I didn't, I was going to take the long way around, and it was already starting to get about four o'clock in the afternoon. I made it through the area, came down over a couple of hills, and where you exit the one trail,
it kind of opens up into a meadow. I had stop about fifty feet from the meadow, and I was doing something on my cell phone, and here comes this loud yell back from where I was hiking, and the way I can describe it, it was probably about three four or five seconds long. It was really really deep, and it was very powerful because the whole woods behind me just shook. I just froze me, and I didn't know if something was going to be coming my way. It was it was far
enough back, you know, it wasn't close by. It was far enough back and for it just to shake the whole woods. That's probably about one of the only times I got I got freaked out or got afraid. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see We'll be right back. After these messages. If it's only happened to you once or twice, man, you're doing a lot better than most of us, because just about every time I go
out, I'll get creeped out. A friend of mine asked me, don't you guys get freaked, you know, freaked out when you're out like this. We went out nighttime, and I'm like, well, in a way, it may sound weird, but you kind of get desensitized to it. I mean, you hear a knock, you hear close by knock, and you just kind of get get used to it, like like in the rhythm or something. It's it is a crazy adrenaline rush when you get not only if you get a tree knock, but if you get a response. Yeah,
yeah, that makes everything that you've been doing worth it. It's such an awesome, awesome feeling to know that, well, the thing we unless you see the creature doing the knock, you don't know. But you feel like if you do a knock, a couple of knocks, then you get one back within a thirty second to a minute times made It's such an amazing feeling. I just found something very interesting. Circling back to the voices,
that area. A guy named Weller owned that area, named it me Doc after province in Bordeaux, France for vineyards, and he organized and operated an academy for area children. Oh yeah, very nice. He also had a vineyard up there. Yeah, I had a vineyard. Yep. Okay, Johnny, you wanted to show the ORB. If you show the camp site and I'll explain what's going on, you know it. Go ahead and start explaining that, Johnny, because I didn't get that one but up. But
I can do it real quick and just hit me a minute. That was back in January two, I think it was twenty one. There were some campers out there, probably about a few weeks beforehand, and they were reporting that these little pea stones were being thrown at their tent. So me and myself and another guy we decided just to set off just fake fake camp site,
just to see what it would happen. And we did. What I did was laid out a big tarp in the bottom, put a small two man tent so if anything is going to hit the tent, it's going to roll down and the tarp's gonna catch it. And I set up a couple game cameras I really haven't had any success with it on motion mode, so I put it on time lapse mode, and so it was either going to take a picture like every fifteen minutes or every twenty minutes, you know,
day or night. It was rolling for about four days and caught an ORB. I would probably assume that, like myself, the first thing I seen it, I was like, it's like about one forty something or other in the morning, somebody's back there with a flashlight checking out my checking out my off. No one's there. But I also had an audio recorder ladies and gentlemen in the tent with an external microphone coming out and looping up on the
top. Now, back in January, the leaf litter back there, it is probably about three three inches and it is dry, dry, dry, dry, So anything walking back there's going to make a noise. And I would probably assume that that orbs maybe about twelve feet from the edge of the say where the picnic table is twelve feet back in the woods and it only
slopes down about two feet. So absolutely nothing on audio recorder in that timeframe of something or somebody walking around, because if someone wents back there to flash light shining it around. You're definitely going to hear it, right. You did a great job overlaying this picture. Yeah, yeah, thanks. I'm just going back and forth between them so you can see in the daytime there's
there's nothing there that could be reflecting any kind of lie. Right, And that's the that's the only picture at all that I've gotten with that or everything else. You know, in that same setup was just all just nighttime. Just all black knew was that a trocam. It was just yeah, there was just a little troll cam and just set it on time laps mode. So it's gonna snap a picture, you know. I think I had a setup for like twenty minutes. It's just gonna Can you go back to that
park picture real quick? Line that one, uh huh, and then go back to the orb. It looks like there's something sitting on the limb of that tree in the daytime. No, in the in the orb picture, Okay, it looks like it's sitting on the branch. What tree are you talking about? List If you go straight up from the orb, there's a there's a branch that crosses like this, and it looks like something sitting on
that branch. There is something vertical. Yeah, let's look at it in the day WHOA, what do you think of that, Johnny, that's good catch. I left, I'll left to zoom in on that picture. I'll pull it off on my computer and see if I'll see if I've seen anything. Yeah, I don't know if it's another limb. Go go back to the daytime picture again. It seems like it's right between those two trees. You got one tree in the left, that's yeah, forefront, one tree
in the back. It's kind of like you're reading between those two. Yeah. The only thing it could be is just a break in the limbs where that's letting the light through. Yeah. I do see like a vertical spot there, but the same amount of light should be coming on the other sides. Yeah. Are you talking like moon light? Yeah, like moonlight coming through. What wouldn't it be picked up in the other shots though? Exactly for that though, Yeah, that's what that's the only instance. Yeah,
that's that's the only picture with with it in there. That's that's a good, good catch. So that's awesome. See we keep her around for more than just catching questions all those years in law enforcement. I there you go, that's there's definitely something. It looks like there's definitely something there. Yeah, where do you want to go from there? It's the mysteries. Do
you have the one audio clip? I think it says knock three. You know there was a boy scout camp there also back in the nineteen twenties. Oh yeah, okay, tree knock three. Yeah, I think it's tree knock three. I got that right here. I'll set it up for you. It's it got to a point I think that was in twenty twenty in
the summertime. I worked midnight shifts, so I cruised up there after work, probably about eight o'clock, and it got to a point where I would go down the trail down to the creek on the other side of the creek would I would get a knock just playing his day was real calm. It sounds like someone taking a bat and hitting a pine tree. So I went down there one morning. I didn't have any of my stuff. I had an audio recorder going, and I just basically just wanted to kind of look
in the creek just to see if anything's moving around. Get down to point I stopped. I was like, where's the knock? No knock? So I started heading down creek. A knock on the other side comes from down creek, i'd say, and maybe fifty yards, maybe a hundred yards, so I didn't I didn't even have my wood knock or anything with me, so I was just doing cheek pops because it was so still and so quiet out there. So it was it was down the creek it knocked. I
started going walking downstream. I think it was coming upstream. I had did a cheek pop, and it replied with one that was pretty much parallel with me. I continued going downstream where it was, did another cheek pop. It knocked back up here where I was in the start off with, and then I went back up here. I kind of like just sat down on the embankment just to see if I can see anything. I had some high powered binoculars, but the leaves and everything was so thick. I didn't see
anything. I cheek pop a couple more times and then got the last response, which was you'll hear me popping, you'll hear a hawk, and then you'll you'll hear the reply, and then you'll hear my reply. Here we go all the ship. Yeah, my thoughts exactly out of my mouth. Um, yeah, oh man, let that that morning? How about hell do you cheap pop that layout? First of all, it's just it's just so quiet down there. It's just like it just echoes. That's a let's
do that one more time. That's a lengthy one is twenty seven seconds, so we'll just do it one more time. M all these ship Yeah, is there anyone that's listening right now that's not listening in headphones? Go back and listen with headphones if you can, because it's some cool stuff that that that he's sharing here. It's amazing. What's next, buddy? I think that's I think that's everything pretty much. I sent you on the phone. I was, I know, I was burning your phone up the other day.
A lot more stuff up on my website. I basefully just started a website about three years ago, not to promote anything, just to kind of keep everything that I caught, just like an one spot not taking up the home PC. So I got a lot more stuff on the website. You said you had one recording of a child talking like maybe in another language or was that the singing one. It was it's it's it's a woman. It's
actually twice it's really really faint. She says a couple words that. The first one, she says a couple of words and then there's like a really brief pause and then the words repeat itself brief pause, and then the words repeat itself again and its goes like in the distance. And the second one I got was just a few months ago. She said like two words and she and then it was like a kind of like she was singing basically. I don't know if it's Native American or if it's old Europeans or what,
or maybe maybe I'm just not hearing hearing exactly what she was saying. Yeah, I'm just going over there's a lot of paranormal activity there. I'm just going over one more time to see if there's any this audio that I think maybe we didn't share because it seemed like there was one of us all oh the whistle, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the the you have the tree knock before that close knock, close knock. Yeah, you sent me those two together, so I'm sure that. Yeah, that's it.
You're gonna do the knock first. Yep, here we go, let's do it again. Yeah, that was a close spy knock. That was back in the end of December, and that was about nine fifteen at night. And then then a whistle like about ten o'clock, same recorder, same area. MS. Play that again, Okay, let's do it one more time. Are you hearing the little talking after the whistle? Let's try it again. Right after that first whistle, it sounds like the chatter. Yeah,
let's do it. Let's listen again. And Tiffany here says there's a low gruff yeah, and then Carson says it's like a garbled type And that's what I was hearing. That That almost like the samurai how they say the samurai sounds, or like that, the garbled talk. Can you play that one more time? Yes, ma'am. Daniel here says, sounds like two high notes, one long low note, then a few more low notes. That's exactly what it sounds like, Yeah, with some talking or some gibberish
there in the middle. Yeah, because it's like I can't do that, but it's like don't un't done. I mean, like whistles like then, and then the garbling starts in yeah, and then it whistles again like yeah, and then it whistles again yeah. And that was the same night as the wood Knocks, or that was a different night. Oh, the wood knock that he just played it, it was that was the same night. Okay, we about forty five. The whistle was about forty five minutes later.
Okay, same area, same recorder. I think the n twenty eight, twenty ninth. Go back over to the pictures and make sure that there's nothing that we haven't. Well, you got several glyphs here. Oh yeah, the the little the small stick figure. I think, yeah, that's one of the exes that's out there that there. Yeah, I think there's a few pictures of that one. It kind of looks like an aspirus asterus. Yeah, tell me mother, that happened naturally by mother? Yeah,
that did? It did not fall off the trees like that. Now a side picture, a side a shot of it. Stay tuned for more. Sasquatch out to sea will be right back after these messages. Something with hands wove that together. And then there's a X there X. Now you can argue the xes that they fail naturally like that, but what are the chances true? True? I'm just gonna shoot between them again. I think those
are boundary lines. Oh, there could be I found one just a few days ago back up in in that area where usually the recorder and there's probably about a quarter mile just straight woods, and one just happened to crop up right right in the middle of almost like it's not like an open field, but there's there's no trees that are really directly above it, and it just it was like right there. So I'm like, am I in the danger
zone or am I about to enter the danger zone? Yeah? Yeah, because I've always viewed in X is like a warning day out, you know, but it's all we don't know, and chances are we're problem I'm never gonna know. Question I wanted to ask before we got out of here, Johnny, Uh, do you have an opinion on bamboo? That might be a crazy question, But in the areas that you're going into up there,
are there any patches of bamboo? No, No, it's it's it's it's straight up woods, woods, trees, bushes, a lot of briars. Yeah, I think we're more we're too north for for the bamboo, okay, because we get it down here in Tennessee, so we have it. We have it in Arkansas. Carson brought up a good point x is our native American sign language for camp home. Oh yeah, wow, I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. I'm going to keep that in
mind. Yeah, you said you didn't want to plug your website earlier, Johnny, but do it. You know you're here, go ahead and plug everything that you want to. Yeah, it's meat doc bigfoot dot com. It's m E. D oc bigfoot dot com. You can pick up my uh YouTube page from there, my Facebook page. I just threw something out there just yesterday. Was you hear a this either a deer or a dog running walking toward the recorder and then you'll hear a tree knock in the background
and whatever was dear dog just like stops in the tracks. So yeah, we're I'm always updating it, always out there in the field. I'm kind of like a boots on the ground kind of guy. Don't mind hopping down into creek beds or sloping down the snake boots. Yeah, like to see what's out there. Yeah, Johnny did a really good job on his website. It's really really well done. He's got all the audio on there that
you can listen to you, So I recommend that very highly. Johnny send me links to everything that you wan't share, get it in the show notes. And I said, I'm gonna take this episode, upload it to podcast, and those of you that are listening that we'll be listening on podcast. I'll be sharing all those pictures and try to figure out a way to, you know, to do all of that for you guys. So I appreciate that. Wayne, Thanks Johnny. We finally got it done, buddy.
How about that? Yeah, I was, thank you so much for having me, and it's gonna last. I got a ton more. If you ever want to have me back on or whatever, we'll roll with it. Thank you, Lisa, Wayne, thank you a lot to see. Thank you so much. Yeah, man, and you are absolutely welcome to come back. Johnny again, thank you so very much. And be safe out there, buddy, Yeah, definitely will I will. All right, we'll talk later, Bine. Okay, they say you don't gotta go home,
but your cast day. I don't want to be chimes, jib chime everything, collar back right back with you, Aye for me to stay right call it right away, Sssuri book control the pain coming down the pass