SO EP:295 Bigfoot At My Window!

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Now. I know what your reporting. I got a strain of going on here. Something just killing my dog. Something killed your dog, my dog. We're flying to or over the trade. I don't know how it did it, okay, dam And I'm really confused. Also, I thought my dog coming over the fence, and they would have did when you hit the growler. I entertaining cards And although I thought it was my dog coming over the fen what are you putting? We gotta some one or something crawling

around out here. You see what it was? Dan? It up. I'm out here looking through the window now and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. He's a point, you body, Carol deal, Hello, get somebody out here. What's point on the outare? That's thought of a bitch about sixty four nine? I don't know he seem the outtare. Yeah, I'm looking right here, everybody. This is Less Strong. Yes, yes, I know, AKA surviving and you're listening to Brian

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As I said, we've got a great guest lined up. We've got Angela here from Indiana, and Angela is here to share her multiple experiences and encounters with Sasquatch, and then she shares some other very interesting things that have happened to her over the course of her life, including seeing something that I don't even know how to describe it, but I'll let Angela get into all of

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us there. We always enjoy meeting everybody in person. But enough of that. I know you guys are here for the Sasquatch Encounter, so I'm gonna stop talking. You gotta sit back, relax and enjoy the Showy Fook's over, welcome our guests to the show. It is Angela from India and welcome to the show. Angela, Thank you. I'm so glad to have you here. So I know you're here to talk about all kinds of things.

But let's start with the bigfoot thing. Was it something that happened to you that got you interested in the subject, or was it something you were always interested in before you had any type of encounter. It actually happened when I was a little girl, the first time I saw one in person, very close, and I didn't give it much thought before that. I mean, I did live at the time, you know, in Oregon, you know, near the coast, and there's a lot of different types of activity in

that area, but the bigfoot in particular was not on my radar. In fact, from a very young age, I've had lots of different experiences. So my closest comparison to what my initial thought of this, what this was was a shadow person. But when I actually realized what it was, then I knew this is you know, this is a bigfoot and they're real. And I was probably about seven years old when that happened, had launched itself and one walked upon me. So well, that definitely sounds like an interesting

and potentially scary situation. So would you mind taking me and the audience back to where you were, what you were doing, and tell us what happened to you. Sure. So I lived in Coos Bay, Oregon, and we took a little weekend trip over to the Charleston Bay area to go clambing. And my parents have friends that lived up seven Devil's Road from the bay.

So when you go up that road, it's sort of the crest of a range of hills, and beyond that road, all the way down to the coast is this massive, I guess wildlife refuge or just huge natural area. There's nothing out there for just miles and miles. But they had this really great cabin that they built, and they had ducks and rabbits and goats

and all kinds of animals and things. So after we were done with the activities we did on the beach down in the bay, you know, we went up to their house and we were going to spend the weekend there. So, oh, I don't remember what day it was, but I just we all we spent one whole day outside, you know, playing with the animals and climbing trees, and they had these king apple trees with these apples that were just the size of grapefruits. They were huge, and you know,

we're doing all of that. So what I think happened is that the whole day that we spent playing outside, the family that we stayed with they had little boys, and I had two brothers and then there was me. So if something had been observing us that whole day, it was probably the first time they saw a little girl. That was what was different. So that's what I think triggered the curiosity of the big foot to come closer. And so that what happened was that night we all had gone to bed.

The boys had a second story sort of attic room upstairs, and I was in the guest room on the main floor, so my window faced outside, and you know, at that ground level normal height, the bed was pushed up against the wall right underneath the window, so from my pillow to the

window is probably about three feet. And being you know, a recipient of all of these supernatural things all of my life already, and I'm in a strange house with strange sounds and strange people, you know, it's a little bit uncomfortable to sort of settle in and go to sleep when you're a little kid, and I was just laying there looking out the window, and I don't remember it being particularly dark or particularly light. Maybe it was a full

moon or a partial mood. It seemed like I could see the guy, and I can see the trees and the light through the trees and things like that. I was just sitting there looking out the window, and the next thing I know, I see the black just fill the window. And my initial reaction is, this is a shadow person. That's something big and dark because is coming. It's not inside the window, it's outside. So as I'm looking at it and this darkness just fills the window, it literally feeled

it all the way up except or maybe the corners around the head. So it was quite large. And as it got closer to the window, I started to features came out from the darkness of the shape, and what I saw it it was really quite beautiful. Actually, it wasn't that terrifying. I thought there was something about it. I don't know. People talk about the feelings that you get, or you know, the impression that they have emotionally, they sort of have a feeling about them, and that's part of

the experience, is what you're feeling from these beings or these creatures. So when I saw the face, I was a little shocked at first, and I was scared, But at the same time, it wasn't a face like, you know, an angry face looking down at me. It was actually like this, the little The face was like when you'd see a cute puppy or a baby and you go, ah, you know how cute that type. It was like that. So the face had a wide, sort of

flat nose. It was very dark. I could make out the ridge over the eyes, but it's like the eyebrow ridge was raised, like she just had this look of surprise on her face, and she was looking down at me like you would look at a little baby or something. So that's the feeling I got from it, believe it or not, was that it was

more sort of delighted to see me, I think. And that's and I just I've thought about it all these years, and someone suggested, well, maybe it was watching you all day while you were out playing and wanted a closer look because the boy slept upstairs and that for that night it was a guest room. The light had been on, so maybe it was drawn to the fact that it knew somebody was in that room this time, and maybe it was me, but she came to see and I feel like it was

a female, you know. I just feel like this was a you know, a feminine energy that came to check out the little girl. That's that just seemed like the whole thing was that was it. And the thing, you know, before it actually stepped up to the window. And this is what sort of triggered me also, was that, you know, you hear the animals and stuff outside, but at night they're quiet, they've all settled

down and that sort of thing. They were completely berserved just for a few seconds, and then they went silent, you know, And I was like, well, that's weird, you know, but I live in organ so I'm used to there. There could be bears, there could be you know, all kinds of things out there. So I wasn't really I didn't think that was anything, you know what I'm saying. I just thought, well, that's there must be something out there that scared the animals just real quick.

But then after that, because I'm looking, that's when the black filled the window. But that's what happened, and it was it was three feet from me, and she she just stepped up put her face right to the glass and looked down in at me, got a really good look, and it was like she just took one step and she just vanished. So, you know, it's it's it's strange how they can just appear and disappear. I'm not saying she was there and she disappeared. It's like she just took

one step and she was gone. So whether she went backwards and then just was too far from the window for me to see, just like when she arrived, it was just this black shape and I didn't actually see the face till she was really close to the glass. So, well, let's talk a little bit about that face, because it's rare that somebody gets that close to one of these things. Face and the facial features have always fascinated me because that tends to, at least in my mind, I do a lot

of research about what these things could possibly be. It's not something we necessarily talk about on the show a lot, because I frankly don't think we're at the point where we should even be concerned with what they are. We are still trying to prove that they exist, and we'll get there eventually. But when you start looking into what they might be. You know, some of the people have theories about Gigantopithecus. Some people think they're Australia epiphysines, Dennis

Ovans, all these different things. The face means a lot. So you three feet away, can you describe a I guess. Was the face more humanlike? Was it ape like? You mentioned the nose, the broad nose. What about color? Was their hair on the face? Can you give us some more as much description as you can recall in details about the face

that you saw. Sure, again, it was this black mass, and the details came out as she got close to the glass, so I can make out where the eyes were and the nose and the shape of everything. But it wasn't really clear, like there was light shining because I didn't have the light on in my room and the only light was from whatever the moon was. And she's obviously blocking the windows, so the lights behind her just in the corners, and there's no light coming from my side of the glass.

So it matchin black on black and trying to make out a shape from that. But I could. There's a few photographs I've seen that are very similar, and it's more of the human looking type. Face. I can't really describe the mouth very much because everything under the nose was just too dark, you know. But the nose was very clear it Like I said, it was sort of a flatter, wider human type nose. And the eyes I saw a photograph were drawing that was really close except in mind, I

would say the eyes were more human looking and not as deeply set. They weren't as as deeply set under the brow line as some of those show like, you know, you just see all brow and the eyes are just these dark holes. It wasn't like that at all. It was. It was much more forward. So I can't even say if like the eyes had whites around the sides or if they were all black, because that again, it was just all sort of shadow on top of shadow. Stay tuned for more

sasquatch out right back after these messages. But when I saw that one picture, I would say, that's the face, but bring the eyes forward and the eyebrows up, and that's her. Did you have a fear or were you okay with this thing looking in the window? Do you recall what was going through your mind? And I'm curious did you tell anybody? Did you tell adults? About what you had seen. The following day, I was, I was, I was scared when the animals went off. That that

got you know, that kind of jolted me. But then they got real quiet again, I'm like, okay, and then that was fine. And then when I saw the shadow move, that's when you know, like I said, I've seen it so many times when it was actual shadow person or some other kind of entity that I sort of have. It's it's not a fear reaction. I mean, even though I was little, I had seen so many things already. It's more of an assessment. It's like I quickly go around my options, like, all right, I'm in the bed.

If I move, will it see me? Will it make a difference? You know what I'm saying. If I roll off the side and crawl out the door, which I've done before, you know, my thought was it's outside, and I didn't think it was going to break the window to get to me. Again. The facial features were very kind, you know that they were interested, and you know, as a child, you've seen lots of parents and other you know, grown ups look at you and go, oh, aren't you cute? Aren't you sweet? Aren't you know what I

mean, that's that's that's what I got from it. So that sort of you know, bone deep fear didn't hit. It just didn't. So and it probably wasn't there more than thirty seconds to a minute. It was there a while, and it just stood there looking at me, and I just stepped there and looked back. But there wasn't a lot of like the mind speak stuff that we talked about, you know, recently and stuff like that. There wasn't any really telepathic communication or anything. Just the the interest and

the curiosity, that's all it was. So I would just say it was just like she just stepped up, got a really good look, was satisfied with what she saw, and stepped back, and that was it. So possibly she knew if she'd stayed any longer, I might have gotten scared, and she didn't want to scare me. But she was there quite a while. I mean, it's it's a long A few seconds is a long time when you're when you're having these experiences. I'm curious, did you tell anybody?

How long did it take you to tell anybody after you had the experience? Yeah? The next morning, so we're at breakfast and our hosts parents were making pancakes, and we were all sitting around at the table, and the boys started to talk about the animals making the noise last night, you know, and they were kind of ramping up to tell me that, you know, say it was a sasquatch or something or a big foot, and their mom was shutting them down, was saying, knock it off, We're

not going to talk about it. Basically shut up, you know. So she was trying to keep them from scaring me. But I already knew. So when she had said that, I just really felt like she confirmed without them having to say it, that I saw what I saw. So well, that's not the only experience you've had with these things? How long did

it take you to have another encounter or experience with a bigfoot? Pretty much all my life, as far as as much time as I have spent out in the wilderness in nature and everything else, I hadn't seen another one, believe it or not, until just a few months ago, this last summer in June, I saw one. Full body had to foot the whole thing. What would you take us back there and tell us what you were doing?

What happened here? Incident? And I was so excited to see it, because after all of these decades, to see another one is such an amazing thing to have happened. And I had a job for the day about in Cincinnati, so I left home like five am and hit the freeway and there's literally nobody out there driving except me, not a soul. And about

the time the sun started coming up and things were getting light outside. As I'm driving eastbound on the sixty four Highway through a southern Indiana, there's we go through the Hoosier National Forest, and there was a point there's a few places in the freeway where you've got the lanes going one way, the lanes go in the other, but they split apart and there's a stand of trees

in the middle, so you can't see the other lanes anymore. So I was going along a section of the highway where there were trees on both sides and just my lanes. And as the light is coming up and it's getting lighter and lighter, I can see the colors of the trees, and even the darkest trees within the tree lines are still green. So it was light

enough to see, you know, more than black in the shadows. The darkest trees were still green, and as I was going around sort of a left curve in the freeway, something big and black was just right there between the trees and the edge of the freeway. And my first thought was the only thing that big and that dark would be like a sign or something, you know, like the National Forest signs or these great big brown things, right, And I just instantly thought, well, this is the wrong shape

entirely. And as I locked onto it and looked at it, it, I'm realizing what I'm seeing by that, and I already know because it's as high as the street sign. It's really tall, it's very dark, darker than the dark green of the dark trees, you know. And it's shaped like, you know, like an upright humanoid, and it's really big. It's thick. It was really thick. And then, like I said, as I'm getting closer to it again, I'm thinking, okay, I know

what I'm looking at by now. And then there's nobody driving except me, like nobody, and it could, i know, what, could hear me coming for like a mile, So if it wanted to not be seen, it would have not have been seen. So that that's what's curious to me is why did it wait? Why did it wait for me to get close enough to see it and then stand there while I'm you know, assessing the

situation. And then by the time I thought, all right, you know, I know what I've got here, it just took one step and then disappeared into the trees. But the clearest look that I had at it because again I'm driving, you know, so I didn't want it. I'm going to make sure it's not going to cross the road in front of me, that it was going the other way, and it was. But I saw as I'm getting right up to it, that's how close I got before it

stepped in. I saw the curve, I mean the top up at the head and if it was like the back profile basically, so I saw the back of the head go down into the shoulders and slope down the back and then around the rump and down the back leg. So I saw the whole backside outline of it. And it was so thick I didn't see light through the tummy part, like I couldn't see anything from the front. And it's as it was moving into the trees, it was like one step and it was gone. So, but it was. It was huge. I was

right up close to it before it stepped out. I know you were driving, but were you able to maybe estimate possible height and weight on this thing? About how big it was? I would say easily eight feet because at first, as you're driving and things are coming into your view, like road signs are typically what eight nine feet fall something like that, and that's how high it was to me, was like a typical road sign. So I was thinking at least eight feet tall. Yeah, three four hundred pounds.

I mean, I don't know. It wasn't skinny, like I said, from the back to the I couldn't even see the front, so it's not like it had a tapered belly. It was really thick from front to back. That's the weirdest thing about these creatures that the very first episode of this show ever was a roadside crossing incident here in North Carolina, a couple of hours from where I live, up at Meadock State Park, and this guy

was driving to work. I think it was two or from work, I don't remember at this point, and he had a roadside crossing and it was the most very similar to exactly what you just described, And it has always fascinated me that these are such elusive creatures that you know, people go out and look for these things for four or five, even six decades, like Peter Burne's been looking for these things forever and never had any kind of an

experience. And yet I joke about, you know, it seems like once or twice a month, I get somebody telling me that they almost hit one of these things in a prius. It just does not compute with me. It's it's the weirdest thing, and I don't know what to make of it, but it's obvious, you know when I've asked people. I think I asked doctor rush Jones when I had him on the show, like what's up

with these roadside crossings? And He's like, it's just they're trying to get from one place to another, and there's a lot of roads that they kind of cross to get wherever they're going. So, you know, I guess in some ways that sort of makes sense to me. I mean, you obviously had the experience when you were seven, and then you had this one just this past year. How did you feel after that? Were you exhilarated,

were you scared? Were you sort of did you feel some validation of like, yeah, I saw this thing when I was seven, and now I'm seeing it all these years later. What was your thought process right after you had this incident? That's exactly it. It's so validating. It's one thing when you know something happens to your little kid, you can take her to leave it. You know, people take that with a grain of salt.

It's just a campfire story. You were a child, so the credibility really isn't there, unfortunately, But for myself, having seen it as an adult as close as I was, again, I mean, to me, it was it was just so validating. I know what I saw when I was a kid. I'm not doubting that happened, you know what I'm saying. But now I've got two stories. But for me, the most exciting thing is that, you know, if this one thing exists, and I've seen it twice so I know it does. You know, it's all of

the other things. It puts that into a whole different category of possibility. So I totally agree with you, and I think that obviously. You know, I've said it so many times on the show recently when we have these really out there stories like it happened with Darryl Sims I had on recently, The Alien Hunter. I got so many different people reaching out to me and saying, you know, this guy's stories are completely out of whack. You know, this guy's crazy. All these things can have happened, and I'm

like, you know, look, I can't say that right. Those were his experiences. Daryl talked about being abducted by aliens multiple times as a child and even into adulthood, and he's dealt was so many people who have had alien implants and abduction stories of their own. And you know what, if Bigfoot exists, And I know for you it's a You're not a believer, you're a knower, right, But for someone someone like me who has not

had that siding, I'm still fifty fifty with some of this stuff. So but I agree with you that if Bigfoot exists, then why is it so difficult to believe that these other things can happen to people? And I know that Bigfoot is not the only thing that happened to you. You mentioned it a little bit ago about some of the things that happened earlier in your childhood.

Would you mind taking me and the audience back to what your first experiences were and talk about some of those other things that have happened to you. Yeah, I certainly can. But there are two other things that happened that now looking back, I realized we're probably bigfoot related or even dog man related.

And I just wanted to throw this in there that I went to New Zealand for three months when I was seventeen and did all of this outdoor survival stuff, and one of them was a twenty four hour solo hike, and they took me out last, drove me way out past everybody else, and

left me at the end, out in the middle of nowhere. And now I know what I was sleeping in then I didn't, but I had found a little stand of, you know, three or four little trees, and it looked like there maybe had been a flood or a bunch of water went through there at some point, so all of this debris was stacked up behind these trees. It looked like perfect teepee with an opening, and I was

like, well, that's nice, you know. So I got in there and I built my little fire right outside the door, and I was good all night. So, you know, forward thirty years and I'm just like, oh my god, that was a big foot house or bed or tent or something. I don't know if they have big foot in New Zealand, but that I mean that I wasn't in a river bed, you know what I mean. So I was like in the forest. So it's not like water went through there. But that's the only I mean, That's what I

thought at the time was that's lucky. You know that this just happened to happen and it's a dry now and I'm gonna I'm gonna spend the night in there. And I did that. Looking back, and you know, talking about all these structures and things that they make and nests they build and things like that. I mean, I'd like to know if anybody's heard any stories from New Zealand, because oh no, I'm just glad whoever it belonged it didn't come back and all I was in there. So there was that.

But again, you know, knowing what you know now and looking back, and though when I was little, I say, you know, I grew up, you know, running around in the woods chasing bunnies and eating berries, and so I spent a lot of time you know, out in the forest, in the woods, and there would be times when things would just the tone or the feeling or the air pressure would change. And I'm very in tune to um my energy body being pressed on, if that makes sense.

So when I get that feeling, I know there's something around. It's kind of like a magnetic push, that makes sense. But there would be times when I would be out there and all of a sudden, I'd be like, I'm not alone, and I'd get home as quick as I could. I knew it was time to leave. But you know when you hear everything goes silent, or your ears start ringing, or you just get that oppressive feeling that you are not supposed to be in this place, get out.

You know, That's happened so many times where I've just been out playing and thought, okay, time to go. You know. I never saw anything, never heard anything, nothing like that, But I did have those moments where my security switch flipped for no reason, and I knew it was time to go. So but having had all of those experiences as a child,

that's what sort of prepped that awareness, I think. But and my experiences go back to oh my goodness, my first actual sighting of a thing that wasn't human once when I was three, But prior to that, I was seeing shadow people my first memory. I was eleven months old, so I remember back to them. But when I was three, I was outside in southern California. It was a beautiful, clear blue sky, sunny day, and I was under a tree in the yard and I was looking at

how the light was playing through the leaves on the ground. And you know when the sun goes behind a cloud and it kind of dims down and then it comes out and it brightens up again. It was that brightening up that I saw, but there was no dimming down first. It was like a bright day and then it got brighter, and I'm like, well that's weird. So I go and I look up out of the sky. Coming down at me are these two enormous hands, and I can't see anything past the

wrist, but they're made a white gold light. They're really big, and they're reaching down at me. So I put my hands together and I reached up and these giant hands closed over my hands like a little hug, and my whole hand was between the fingertip of these big hands. Hofic. They were and then they just went away. But that was the first time I had I would say, a light being sort of interaction. I mean, we would call them angels, I think, But now was it an angel?

I don't know. I just don't know. We don't know. So that was the first time I saw something that was just completely different. Besides the shadow thing he's around all the time. Going from there. Oh my goodness. There were some really big things that happened when I was eight,

you know, seven, eight nine, things like that. When I was eight, still in Oregon, we had moved way out to this sort of valley out along stock Slew or that was in Coos Bay, but it was I can't name it, think of the name of the place now, but it was just about thirty forty minutes out of town. Weigh out some valley stay tuned for more sasquat Chote. Moving right back after these messages, and there was a lot of UFO activity out there. I know that now,

but I didn't know it then. And having moved that far out, I didn't get to see my best friend very much because we used to be neighbors. So her family finally allowed her to come and spend the night at my house, which is a big deal because she has all kinds of anxiety and different things and doesn't like to be away from home. So around about bedtime when she freaked out and had a total panic attack and we had to call her parents to come all the way out there to get her in the middle

of the night. They weren't real happy, but she went home, and you know, I didn't think much of it because I knew it was possible. But at the same time, because of what happened right after that, I'm wondering if she was triggered by something to get her out, because they were coming for me and they needed me to be alone. So she left. I went to bed. It was probably ninety It wasn't very late.

I just got into bed, I got comfortable, I rolled over. I looked around as I always do to assess the area before I go unconscious, you know, and there are all these people standing around my bed, all around all three sides, probably you know, fifteen of these beings. And there were two rows. So there were these little ones that were three four feet tall, and then behind them were the five or so foot tall ones.

The little ones were shaped different. They had the big heads and everything, but it seems like they had like straps over their shoulders or something. So I kind of, because of where we lived, kind of equated that to being farmers, especially because the ones behind them were thinner and taller and they were very nurturing. I definitely got a very loving, secure feeling from

them, so that to me was like more feminine energy. So it's like the next day, I told my mom that all the farmers and their wives were in my room, but they were the grays, the taller ones, and the shorter ones. So that happened. I was wide awake and they were all there, and we had a telepathic conversation and they told me all kinds of things that I needed to know about how to live my life. It gave me lots of instructions on what two and what not to do and

things like that. When I was nine, I had moved back down to southern California with my dad, And these are just I'm just very briefly going across some of these things. But I was at my grandmother's house and I had a half a dozen interactions with a solid black entity in the house while I was there alone all day long. That particular entity followed me for ten

years. It stuck around a really long time. I found out decades later from my family that everybody saw it, but nobody told me so as a child, as a nine year old dealing with this entity by myself, it was that was scary. It took a lot for me to get through that. There was quite a lot of different episodes that involved on the pastor of the church and getting harmed, and you know, I was hurt. I was physically harmed. Just a lot of things happened with that particular one.

But I don't know, I'm not sure where to keep going or not. But just throughout my entire life, there's always been one type of thing after another, and it was just a long chain of coping with. You know, the thing just happens. You're just in it and you're you're dealing with it in the moment from whatever you know, perspective you have and as a child, that's not much. You know, all I have to sort of

back me up is my faith. You know, things that I tried to, you know, recite stuff from the Bible to make them go away, and things like sometimes it works, sometimes it didn't, you know, stuff like that. But I was very psychic. I could see a lot of things. I could touch something and get images. I have a lot of I guess spiritual messages that would come through about people and I don't know, I guess mediumship, that's what it would call it. There's the Claire this,

and the Claire that. I'm kind of a Clare fill in the blank, you know, the clairvoyance, the Cla Claire audience that all of the players. The thing is is that I never asked for any of this because my experience has started at such a young age, and you know, being in the church, you know, with my dad and stuff like that, you immediately everything's evil, so you kind of want to stay away from it, and you treat it like it's evil. So I definitely didn't dabble.

I didn't research, I didn't read things. I didn't even want to look at scary movies because I didn't want to have anything in my head that wasn't already there, you know what I'm saying. So if something happened, it's not because I saw it somewhere else and it manifested in my dream for instance, none of that. So it's just something that has come after me my whole life, and I'm wondering if it's because I have these I don't know,

if it's like you just wired a certain way. I'm just open to it, and it's like they know, so they just come, you know, and they just they just they never stop. I don't know. You just sort of go through life figuring out what works and what doesn't and trying to create boundaries and safe places and things like that. So talking about it, I can feel the anxiety. Let's go back and talk a little bit about if you're comfortable talking a little bit about the dark entity, because that's

something I've got a little bit of experience with myself. I sort of dealt with that as a child. When I was twelve thirteen, we lived in a haunted house. I think there was some demonic stuff that went on there before we moved in. I've talked about it on the show before, so I'm not going to get into that, but I can understand as a child

dealing with that kind of stuff and what that's like. As far as the dark entity that was around for ten years, can you talk a little bit more about how that manifested, how it first came into your life and you don't have to go in any detail obviously you're not comfortable with, but a little bit about what you were experiencing and then how you ended up getting rid of that, because I think that sort of an important thing that people are

going to want to know when they hear this. Is ten years is a long time to deal with anything, so obviously we were a little concerned about how you got through that. So if you wouldn't mind if you would talk a little bit about that, I would appreciate it, sure, absolutely, And I think it's important this particular entity is because it kind of ties into the other things that I've seen that may or may not have been a sasquatch, because it's so similar in I guess texture. I don't know how else

to explain it. This thing was completely solid black and you could not see through it, and if it put its hand out, you could see its hand, but if it put its hand in front of its body, it would just absorb and you wouldn't be able to see the difference between the hand and the body. It had no facial features whatsoever around the entire form head to toe. It had these little curly tufts all around the edges, so it was like an old fashioned kind of tufty, furry teddy bear. It

had some kind of you know, furriness all over. So that was the only detail I could see. Was any time it moved, the edges were always those little tufts of fur sticking out. Well, what had happened was I had two brothers, my little stepbrother. My two uncles were just barely older than we were, so they were fifteen, sixteen, seventeen something like that. My brother was fourteen or fifteen. I was the youngest, and

then there was my little step brother. They had all gone up the road to the guy's house up the street that had a pool, and of course I wasn't invited because, oh my girl. So I was at home all day by myself while my grandparents were at work, and I thought I would just help her out and just you know, mop the floor and clean the house and you know, do the dishes and things like that. So I was at the kitchen sink and I saw it run past the kitchen window.

And my brother, my oldest brother, is the tallest and he has dark curly hair, and I thought it was him. So when I looked over to the siding glass door. There was nothing there. He never came out the other side, you know. And I went outside and I looked and I called his name, and there was just nobody there. The gate was still closed. There was no nowhere for him to go that I couldn't have

seen. And I thought, well, that was kind of weird. But again, I've already seen so many things that go hush won the corner of your eye. But it was like right in front of my face, right there, and it was solid. I thought it was the top of his head, wasn't there. So a little while later I go into the closet in the entry of the house and there they have the vacuum system where you

just get the hose and plug it into the wall. So the hose was in there, and I opened the door and this thing standing right in front of me inside the door, inside the closet, face to face. I'm like, with an inches nose to nose with this thing, everything stopped. I guess I shaking just thinking about it. It was in the closet and it was pushing all of the hangars from the dry cleaners were just a bunch of empty hangars hang in there. They were pushed up behind its shoulders and

it was there for maybe a couple of seconds. Is by the time the boom, you know, the adrenaline hit me, it disappeared and all the hangars come swinging down and imagine the sound of that makes total horror movie moment. Okay, I was terrified, and at the same time, you know, this is the closest anything has ever gotten to me. And I've seen a lot of things, but this was in my face. It was blatant,

It was game on, you know what I'm saying. So I don't know how I did it or where I got the bravery, but I just sort of buckled down into my faith, you know, at the time, and just called on the protection of everything that I know was supposed to be true what they tell you in church. If you're this, this, and this, then none of these things can touch you. Right. So I'm like, okay, we're gonna go with that. So because it was outside and then now it's inside the house, I mean, that just took it

to a whole other level. And it was clearly challenging me. That was a threat obviously, and I'm not, again, just a little kid all alone in this house. So I go upstairs and I just think, Okay, I'm just going to do the work and act like this hasn't happened and not give it any attention. I'm not going to let it in my head. I'm not going to think about it. I'm just gonna do what I'm

doing. So I was vacuuming upstairs and I heard this bang, bang bang in the laundry shoot, and I opened the door, deciding not to be fearful at all, because that's what it wants. I stuck my head in, going it's in there, because it just banged on the wall inside. Stuck my whole head in and looked down and it was completely dark and black in there, and I was like m and I just shut the door and kept on going. So when I went downstairs and then down to the third

level. Down at the bottom of the lower level stairs is a doorway to the laundry room and another master's suite, and that's where the laundry shoot would come out. As I go down the stairs and passed that doorway, it's standing right inside the doorway. I walked right past it and I turned around

and I faced it. I came up on it like it had done to me in the closet, and I just went face to face with it, stood in front of it, and I could see the laundry shoot door was open, and so the light had to have gone through when I put my head in there, unless it opened it and got out, you know what I'm saying. So something happened. It was either in there or whatever. I would have seen the light or had opened the door. Anyway, I'm standing there face to face with it. And at this point is when the

paralysis hits and I'm frozen. I cannot move, I can barely breathe. And it's not my fear, it's it's the sleep paralysis, paralysis. For all you can do is move your eyes. Everything feels like lead, You feel like you weigh a thousand pounds, cannot move, you can barely inhale. And the whole time I'm in my head praying, I'm calling on all these things. I'm telling it, you can't be here, This isn't right.

You know. I belong to God, you know. And then I thought, I belong to God, and if you don't, you won't let me touch you. You can't touch me. And so with all of my strength I lifted my fingers and it was like they waited. Try lifting a bowling ball with your fingertips from the bowling from underneath like this, That's what

it felt like. They were so heavy. I could barely move my hand, but I was able to lift my fingers up just enough to where if I lifted my hand all the way up, I would have touched it. That's how close we were. And just as I was about to touch it, it disappeared. So that's what told me, you know, it wouldn't let me touch it. It won't let me put the light on it, you know what I'm saying. That's how I processed that. I'm like, okay, I'm going to be okay. This thing is afraid of me.

Just a few moments later, in the room that was down there, it's like a big recreation room. There's a pool table with TV and couches and

all. So I was going to vacuum down there, And just as I was stepping away from that into the room and getting ready to do that, there's one whole wall that faces the backyard that's all sliding glass doors, like I don't know, fifteen twenty feet of glass, and there's a curtain across the whole wall, and I see this ripple go through the whole curtain like somebody had run his hand down from one end to the other on the curtain. So the curtain goes and I'm following that, and when I do,

it appeared against the next wall behind the pool table. The thing is, every time I saw it, it was always leaning on something. It was leaning on the wall in the doorways, leaning on the wall behind the pool table, it was leaning on the hangars in the closet. Was always leaning on something. And I'm not sure what the significance of that was, unless it was just being coffee, you know, But that's what it was. It was standing there, leaning up, and it had its arms crossed like

this, because I could see the outline in the elbow. So it's had its arms crossed, It's leaning up against the wall, just standing there. And I just stood there and it stood there quite a while, and so I finally said something, you know, I said, what do you want? You know, I said, you're wasting my time and just stand there and say nothing. I said, tell me what you want. Get that

out of my house, you know, that type of thing. So and again that thing, no reaction, nothing, So then I started to recite the Lord's Prayer, which I had never memorized. I don't know where it came from, but it all came out, and it stood there and listened to the whole thing, did nothing. And then I hit John three sixteen and I said as soon as I said, for God, so love the world. As soon as I said God, it disappeared. It was just

like flipping a light, just completely gone boom that quick. So there's no like slow fade or anything like that. It's just gone. So that's kind of I mean. More happened later on that night with my brother. It was standing right next to my head. I was laying on the floor in its toes are practically in my ear. My brother was right next to me, and I was like, do you see something? Do you see something standing next to my head? And he got completely freaked out, started crying,

was screaming at me, shut up, that's not funny. He was crying. So I think he had already had some kind of interaction with something in that house, possibly this thing, and me acknowledging it and making it real for him was too much because he completely crashed over that. But yeah, that's a lot, but that was all in one day. That was

the same day. But here's the good part. When a lot of these really negative things come after me, there's always something good that follows right behind that makes it okay, that remind me I'm protected and it was never alone. I'm doing a good job. Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to seeing right back after the East messages because before that happened with my brother my grandparents came home. I was supposed to go up the road to get my brothers

from the poolhouse bring them home for dinner. My parents had come back, so everybody was there. But as I was going up the road, it was getting dark, and I was scared to go outside. When as it was getting dark, because I knew that thing was going to come with man knew it would follow me out of the house because it had been outside, it had come in. I knew it was going to go out again with

me, especially by myself, away from everybody, and it did. And as I'm going up the road, I can see it moving along behind bushes, behind the windows, through windows of cars that are parked, you know, things like that. So I can see it moving behind things, and it would go back and forth, you know, on both sides of the road, all the way up. And then when I got to the house, until my brothers is time to come, of course they're not going to

come right that minute. And I didn't want to get in trouble and I didn't want to stay outward to get darker, so I went back by myself, and that was even scarier because this road is so steep. I mean, think of San Francisco steep. Okay, it was Ranchi Palace Burda is California, up in the hills, and I could save the name of the street, but because of the privacy of the people that have that house now, I won't. There's been a lot that happened there and it's an infamous

house. At this point, as I was walking down the hill, it's one of those things where you have to really concentrate on going slow because you can easily get to where you're going too fast and you lose control and you'll fall. And that's how steep it was, and that's what happened. Because

I was panicking. I wasn't again. I wanted to get down the hill, get in the house, the thing was still with me, and I started to walk too fast and my feet were slapping too hard, and next thing I know, I'm running and I'm out of control and I'm falling forward and I am almost horizontal, thinking how bad is this going to hurt? When I faced plant on this sidewalk and these two enormous hands, much like the ones I saw come out of the sky when I was three. They

were huge. I could tell how far the thumbs overcrossed across my back and the hands overcrossed, you know, across my front. So it picked me up like this essentially, and full body grabbed me around my torso lifted me up into the air my feet were easily three feet off the ground, and then set me down at a complete stop. And then the hands just were gone. Oh my gosh, I was so. I was so. I don't there's not a word for it. I can't even pick a word to

describe the feeling. But my initial reaction was take that black thing. You know what I think, because I know you saw what picked me up, So if you're going to mess with me, you're messing with that too. That's that's what I had. You know what I'm saying, so that that was super exciting and a complete flip from the whole entire day's you know, feeling of just utter dread and all of these things. And I even looked around. I was hoping because it's dinner time, somebody he is at the

fitch and window and saw this happen. But there there were no lights and the curtains are closed or whatever. Nobody saw it. So there's that I can't breathe just telling this is so oh my god. I can definitely tell the reaction that you're having going back to that, and I know it's probably not the easiest thing in the world. So that was one day that you dealt with this and you said this thing even got physical with you. I mean, what was a day to day like. Was it only happening at

your grandparents house in that house or did it follow you other places? Do you think it was rooted and connected to the house, or do you think that it was something to do with you talk a little bit about that and give us a few more details about some of the things that what a day to day struggle dealing with this thing was. Here's what I think happened. Now, one of my uncles was heavy into the heavy metal and the dungeons and dragons and the skulls and the black posters and you know, all that

kind of stuff. I'm not saying that's all evil. I'm just saying he was in a vibe. Okay. There was a crawl space under the house. The boys would get into that I was not allowed in. It was like their fort. So who knows what was going on down there. If you asked me, it was a whole lot of stuff. But that's where it came from. I know, because before any of this happened. I've been going to that house since I was a baby. Okay. I was

terrified of the fireplace. And it wasn't the fireplace, it was what was under it, and I knew it. I felt this horrible, I want to say stench. It wasn't a smell, but it was a feeling, and that I wouldn't even go in the living room. I absolutely hated it. But it's always been there, and I think my uncle had manifested something

into that space through the things that he was involved in. So when I came along, this bright and shiny soul, you know, it's like a tasty, little morsel, you know, So feeding time, it just latched on and it followed us home. It went home with us, And there were lots of interactions at my house with my dad's house. He had chased something of the house on several occasions and actually shot at it. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't a person. It was this thing. Yeah, I

saw it lots of times. I can tell stories about that thing all day long. But the most significant situation with that going home was that when we would go to church, I would feel amazing when I was on the property of the church, but the moment our car drove across the sidewalk into the street, I would get a massive migraine. Who was like, this energy just hit me so hard. All I could do is just go home and be in the dark and just sit there and just I was in tremendous,

horrible pain. And I was sitting on the end of my bed and in this state. Right after church, and I see this big ball manifest in the corner by the ceiling of my room, and it's black and it has the curly curls all around the edges. And that's when I know it came with us. Even though it was a different form, obviously, it's the same feeling of the presence of this thing. You recognize it energetically, so

I see it there. And then the bed starts of vibrating, it starts shaking, and then is slamming against the wall, and I'm sitting on an I can't move and I'm just taking it, and it moves across the ceiling to the corner behind me where I can't see you. Now it's behind me, and the bed is banging against the wall. Everything on the shelves start shaking, and then they shoot across the ceiling pet the other wall and fall

down everything. And at some point I was able to just broke free and I was able to jump up and run through the house, and I'm screaming, there's an earthquake. There's an earthquake. And I go into the office and my mom's on my stepmom she's on the phone with my grandma, whose house this came from, Okay, And I'm screaming, there's an earthquake in

my room because that's I'm running through the house. Nothing else is shaking, and she's like, shut up, I'm on the phone, and I'm like, then she goes, oh my god, you're kidding, and I'm like, I thought she was talking to me, like she just realized what I said, and I said no, and she's like, shut up. You know, oh my god, there's an earthquake at your grandma's house and then boom, it hits our house. I was like, literally screaming, there's

an earthquake two minutes before it actually happens. You know, that never registered. So I said, please, after all of that, just come look at my room because nothing else in the house it's fine, and get to my room. It looks like a tornado went through there. And she was so mad because she had given me these beautiful dolls from all around the world and they were just everywhere like they were, you know, precious, and she thought I had done that. And she's like, don't come out of

here till this is clean and shut the door. And I'm like, oh my god, no, I can't even get out of the room where the thing is. That the thing is in here, and I'm not allowed to leave. And I have to touch everything in that room that this thing through, that this thing touched right after it touched it. I have to pick it all up and put it back, and I was so afraid I put something on the shelf and turned around and it would shoot it hit me before

I got the next thing, you know what I mean. That didn't happen, but that's the kind of intensity that I was dealing with, tying back into the thing. The visitors that were in my room and that were standing around my bed. That's the same room, the same time, the same period where all of these other things happened, where I was waking up with these you know, hemorrhaging bloody noses, and I'd wake up chanting things, or I'd wake up and my pajamas would be inside out or backwards or both.

You know, I would wake up because I was being dropped and I thought I fell out of my bed, but instead of hitting the floor, I was hitting the mattress, which made no sense because I know I fell and I'd hit the mattress and wake up and then I'd be all, you know, all messed up. So that's when all that started. When I was nine, after that black thing, you were dealing with this entity. How did you finally break free from this? Or have you? I guess

is a better question, have you? And how did that come to be, and how did that come to pass? That particular one, I think, Okay, good, I forget the question by the time I told all the story. But tying back into that, over the years, I've had certain friends that saw it also, so I mean, it wasn't just my family and just me. It was other people that witnessed it with me also. I just never got the validation from my own family until I was in

my twenties that they had all seen it as well. I thought I was alone with it the whole time. And when I'm telling them these things are happening, they're acting like, oh, no, it's not happening. And they saw it. How can they do that? Oh that is so upsetting to me that they left a child alone with this thing when they knew it was real because they saw it too, they just said, no, it's

not so. How it dissipated, and that's a good word, is that over the years it took on smaller and smaller forms, So it's almost as if it was releasing all of this negativity and confusion and darkness that it was made of. I think from hanging out with me, watching me and listening to me and learning from me that it maybe learned about itself somehow and was

able to release some of this as it went. And so it got physically smaller and smaller and smaller, and it was the size of maybe a really big cat or a small dog, but it was shaped like a rat. This was when I was in high school. I was probably fifteen or sixteen to be a little older. I had a friend over. We were sitting on the couch watching TV. In the hall is right there. You can see all the way down the hall, and it's dark, you know,

the doors are closed, lights are out. It comes running up the hall, gets up on its hind feet like this, takes a good look at us, and then darts back down the hall. He screams like a little girl, levitates over the couch, lands behind it. What is that, you know? And I'm like, well, it's the thing, you know, the thing that I've always told you about. Right That's when I realized he never believed me. I realized then, after all, that he never

believed me until he saw it for himself. And that was that, and I was like, wow, you know, so we turned on the lights, we go down the hall. Now a mouse can squeeze under some pretty impossible spaces. Okay, but the size of a big cat is not squeezing under any door. All the doors were closed. There's no refer it to have gone, and it just, you know, down the hall was gone. That's what I think what happened. The last time I actually saw it,

it was like a bird. And now even now when I see crows or ravens or anything like that, only because I don't have the energetic recognition, I know it's not that. But that one time I knew it was that black bird. I had the energetic recognition, and it flew away and that was it. I think it learned and released itself. That's an interesting theory. I've never really heard that before. And for your sake, whatever

happened, I'm glad that it happened. I want to go back to the visitors in the room and the falling and the nose bleeds and things like that, looking back in retrospect, and maybe you already know the answer to this, or maybe it's just something that you've thought about. Do you think you were having encounters with alien entities and were you abducted? Do you have any recollection or memory of any of those events that happened to you. Yeah,

I have total conscious recall of every interaction I've ever had. The ones I don't remember, I can't even imagine. I don't even want to talk about what could be in there. But no, every incident that I've had, I have full conscious you know, right as it's happening, right after it happened, before it happens, because I can feel the energetic signature of them arriving, you know, I mean all of it. I remember everything. But yeah, that went on all my life, so I didn't actually see

them from that introduction when I got my instructions until I was fifteen. I had a chain of events within two or three day period. That was my first on ship event, and I was shown all kinds of stuff. But that was actually that started off with an ORB. And I could not have told you what an ORB was, you know what I'm saying. That was not on my radar either and never seen one. But it was the same

color as the hands. It was that white, cold light. And in my room I had a window on one end of sliding glass door on the other and it came through the window. And of course, again it's not even eight thirty nine o'clock at night, I'm wide awake, just in my room and I see the light. Now, there's no cars that could put headlights in that direction, so when I see a light, I'm thinking the neighbors doing something with a flashlight, or it's something's outside my window. My

brother's friends are messing around. Whatever it is, I see the lights, so I look and it's the size of a grape route. It's absolutely huge, and it's just cruising through really slow through my bedroom and I'm looking at it, and when it gets right in front of me, it kind of goes really slow, not quite stopping. But it stayed there a lot longer than it took to get through to get there, and then to leave, so it might check me out, and then went out through the siding glass

door and was gone. And so the whole time this is happening. Now again, I'm much older, so a lot has occurred. I'm in my head the whole time, thinking, who are you? What do you want? This is no tell me you're here. I acknowledge that I see you. What is this about? Tell me I need to know? And nothing

I got absolutely nothing. And then a moment later the whole ceiling of my room disappeared, and I'm looking and instead of my ceiling, I'm seeing the face of a massive white wolf, Like she just put her face right through my ceiling and she's right there and it's big as the whole room. And that's just the craziest thing, because it's like this full blown, three D live vision and it wasn't like a static image of a wolf. Her eyes are removing, she's looking at me, her pupils are changing. The fur

is like the wind is on the fur. You know what I'm saying. Her ear twitches, I mean, it's alive, and the same thing. I'm like, who are you? Why are you here? You know, I'm thinking all of these things. I don't want to speak out loud. I don't want to move, I don't want to do anything that's going to stop the experience, because sometimes if you do anything shuts down, so it's all telepathic. I'm thinking all of these wonderful thoughts, you know, and

I got nothing. She just took a good look at me and then poof, just like flipping a switch, just gone, like she was never there. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch outsing right back after these messages, and then after that I had my first out of body experience, and then I was on the ship, the wolves were there again and the whole shebang. So yeah, the on ship thing was interesting because that was what I would consider happening in a dream state like and I could easily say, okay, well

that was a dream. However, the information I was given, the things I was shown, and then decades later finding out that the characters that were there are actually identifiable and it was aw his two sons and their sister, So they were on a knock three years ago. I couldn't have told you what that meant. But some things happened in twenty twenty, pretty heavy all

year long. That forced me to finally research and go ahead and read things and look stuff up and try to identify some of these major touch points throughout my experiences. And that's kind of what brought me to start talking about it. So here's the question that always comes up, at least in my mind when I talk to people who have had multiple experiences with different I guess phenomenon would be the word, or, for lack of a better term, phenomenon.

I know, at least with alien contact. I know some people don't like the word abductees. Most people like to be called contacts, however you phrase it. But obviously with the sasquatch, this dark entity, and the mediumship and now the abductee contact situation, with these entities, I think the thing for me always comes up is why why you? Because a lot of

people go through life and they never have any experience at all. Right, And when I talk about the few experiences i'ved and I used to say, you know, when I first started the show and people would come on and have multiple experiences with different things, people automatically the skeptical hairs go up, the spity sense goes up and says, there's no way that somebody can have all of this in their life. And there was parts of me that was

that person. And then I started looking at my own life. I think I've had an experience with a sasquatch when I was twelve. We've heard things and had experiences here on my property. As an adult, I lived in a haunted house that had dark entities. I was hearing things, voices, and then I've seen a UFO. So I am one of those people who have had these multiple experiences throughout life, and I can't tell you why.

There's nothing in my history, in my family and my extended family, even that I'm aware of, that would predispose me to any of those things. So I'll ask you in retrospect, looking back, and maybe you know the answers. I mean, maybe you're way more enlightened than I am why these things happen to you, or at least your thoughts on why that is that you've had all these experiences, some good and not so not so great. But why do you think you have had these experiences? I think, after

hearing people's near death experiences that that's possibly what happened. And I think it happened when I was born. There's a couple other things I really want to talk about, so I don't want to spend it too much time on this, But I was born with the quarter around my neck. It had been severely delayed because the doctor wasn't there and the nurses literally were holding me in by the top of my head, so they didn't know I was suffocating.

They were just waiting for the doctor to get there. They thought everything was fine, and then when I was finally why was purple blue whatever not breathing I was basically a was never confirmed and I haven't asked my mother, but it's very possible I had an NDE at Earth through that experience, and so maybe that is what left that door wide open that I had to disconnect and the reconnect, and when you do that, you don't really reconnect the way

you were intended to the first time. And I think that's what it is. I think that's why we're able to step back and forth between the realities because the anchor is no longer there. That's what. And there's a whole bunch of other stuff that's possible, a lot of theories and things, But as far as the black entity, this is what I've been thinking of recently. And I've only heard of one other person that saw the same thing I saw with the black shadow being, you know, with the curing not wine.

He said he saw the exact same thing, but he had a big one and a little one. So he always thought they were entities or some kind of you know, spiritual interdimensional type being, you know, think fairy world or something. I don't know, but a lot of people will say sasquatch are two. I don't know, but I don't think the thing that I saw was like that. I think it was it was summoned or created, whereas he thought his were a being from another dimension sort of thing,

but they were identical. So I've had that kind of made things a little weird. So going from that to the thing that I saw at the mim Amounds, that was definitely not a Sasquatch. It was most definitely not human. It would you want to call it an et? Was an interdimensional was? I don't know, but I want to tell you about that because I've never really talked about it, and it's something I don't talk about because this is the one that's going to have everybody go, Okay, no credibility,

just forget it. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. But this is what happened. So it's interesting with you know, a lot of times when things happen to me, I will ignore ninety percent of what goes on. But when there's a series of events that are closely related or timing wise, they all happen in a cluster, that's when I really kind of give it my attention, but I'll ignore most. So that day, going out to the Mima amounts. It's in Olympia, Washington, and time my mom had

an office on Black Lake, which is real close there. On the drives out there, some weird stuff happened because, you know, the fawn jumped out of the bushes and went boing boing boing across the road in front of us. We're like, oh, my gosh, how cute. And then of course you always want to wait because this mom is somewhere and there's probably another one. Sure enough, bing boing boing, here comes the second one. They're like, oh, that's so amazing, and then boing boing boing

the third one. At that point we're like, hey, is it possible. Yes, but a lot of little things come in threes that aren't bonds, so that's always in the back of my mind. And then we couldn't find the entrance to the park. And again it's one of those things where there's a great big wooden sign with a huge yellow arrow saying mine amounts. Because it's like you know, a national you know type of thing. It's

they're they're clearly marked. We went all the way to the heck end of the road and we never saw the entrance to the park, so what happened. We turned around, we came back and then it's like right there and the signs are massive, So something happened on the way to the anyway, we pull in and the way the parking lot goes is sort of you just come in and then it's like the trees kind of come together, and then you go through there and then it opens up into the parking lot. And

as you're passing that tree section, that's where the bathroom building is. So you drive in, there's the bathroom, you kind of pass some trees, and then it opens up to this big parking lot and there's nobody out there. It's early in the morning, and we're driving along to going to the far end of the parking lot to get as close to the mountains as we can to park there instead of having to walk all the way out there. So we're driving across the back end of the length of an actual parking space.

So what is that twenty feet maybe twenty five feet, but the most to the sidewalk. I don't know where this person came from, but all of a sudden, there's someone walking down the sidewalk and there's no cars, there's nobody there. I don't know where. You can see. You can see far all around you. They didn't come from anywhere. They were just

there. And I'm looking and I'm not thinking anything except something's not right because it's extremely tall, it's impossibly thin, it's wearing clothes, and the clothes are so bright and so new. You can see the fold lines, and it had then entire body was covered in something. Okay, here's where it gets really weird. So the whole time I'm looking at this person that's not making sense. I have no fear. Again, I'm twenty something years old

by now, I've seen it all. This is just another whatever. Let's see what this is. Okay, So I'm absorbing this. We're getting closer because we're rolling in the car and it's walking towards us, and there it is, so at the closest point, it's fifteen feet away. It's right there. It has brand new, bright white tennis shoes on. Okay, it has some kind of hosiery or pantyhose that you can see through, so not tight, but actual pantyhose that were black, but through the hose.

If you were a sasquatch and you okay again, I'm sorry if you were to pull something up your leg, the fur would all turn backwards in clumps. Don't you think That's what I was seeing? So there was all these lumps of fur pulled up underneath these hose. It has a long skirt just past the knee, but it's made of sweatshirt materials, like a jersey or red. It was bright red and had a matching hoodie. Underneath the hoodie.

There was a big lump, and it had one arm holding this lump inside the hoodie, so something was in the hoodie that it was holding. It had its other hand. It was grabbing the hoodie around its face, trying to cover as much of its face as it could. It had glasses on, but they didn't sit right on the face, so I could see behind I'm the glasses and it had the hoodie, and then there was underneath there was like a scarf that was kind of you know, because sometimes hoodies

only come so far. There was a scarf wrapped around in there trying to cover more. But I could see, you know, this whole area except for a hand, and the hoodie was like trying to cover everything, but I could see the eyes, the glasses, everything. It had fur on its face all the way up to the rim of the eye. And as I was watching it pass and I'm looking behind the glasses, I can see the eye itself is entirely black. And that's when it turns and looks at

me. And then my bones literally turned to jelly. That is when this fear hit me. And it wasn't my fear. It was impressed upon me in that moment, run or die. And I literally couldn't even move. I mean, I couldn't feel. My bones were gone, That's what it felt. Likely Just everything in me just went to liquid. And that wasn't my decision to assess this thing and become afraid of it. It looked at me and said run or die, but without saying it. But that was

the impression that I got. And as soon as it said that, and my physical body was completely affected by this very intense necessity to survive, I got a visual of what would happened to me if I didn't get the heck out of there. Immediately, as I was able to move, I was slapping down the locks on the doors and the mine and the passenger side behind

me, I reached over and grabbed the other one. I mean I was out of my seat, I was slapping locks, I'm grabbing my mom's knee and I'm shoving her knee down on the gas and a drive drive drive. That was oh my god. I didn't even finish talking about what it was wearing. The hands were covered because it had you know, in logging areas when you handling lumber and stuff like that, they have these yellow, fuzzy gloves. I don't know if you've ever seen them, but they're they're like

a really thick felt or something. It had those on, so that just gets even weirder. So anyway, that's what happened. And I don't know what this thing was because to me, with the communication and the thin, the impossible thinness of the leg, even with the leg and the fur, it was still literally as round as just the bone itself, if that makes any sense. That's how skinny it was. Now, I know there are people that have conditions that can explain a lot of these things, but that

was not human. That absolutely was not a human being. Yeah, I mean that that was the second most terrifying thing I think I've ever experienced, was that moment that it impressed into me run or die and I knew that if I didn't think, if I took too long to think about it, I was already That's the way it felt. What was your mom's reaction when all this clearly she saw the same thing that you saw. What was her reaction was what was going through her mind? Did she have the same fear

or was it something completely a different experience for her. I was slapping her leg again, I was. I was literally mashing her knee down to hit the gas, and she just turned around and we left and we drove ably thirty minutes in complete silence. Both of us were completely just crying. We didn't say a word. We were just crying and driving, and she finally pulled over and she said, what the was that? I said, I don't know. She says, okay, she said, you tell me what

you saw, and I will tell you if that's what I saw. And so I described everything like I described to you, and she goes, that's what I saw. She goes, what was that? I said, that's that's nothing from this world. That that was definitely alien. I don't know why was it. Obviously it was disguising itself. It failed because it was wearing such weird stuff that it wouldn't didn't. You know what I'm saying,

didn't work. It's very interesting, obviously, but I've heard, well, maybe not similar things, but something very similar to that in some of the men in Black stories that you hear when what appears to be some people are not human, there's some sort of humanoid that shows up at people who have seen UFOs and had experiences, and it's something very similar. It's there's something off, not as blatant as what you just described, but it's clearly not

human. There's something off about the clothes, the fit, the way that there's just always something that's just not quite right and you just can't put your finger on it. Obviously, there was a lot more in what you described. I'm with you, I don't know with that description. I don't know what it could be other than something that's clearly not human. So I don't know. That's definitely a headscratcher. You mentioned a couple of things earlier.

I don't know if we covered both of the things that you wanted to talk about outside of that, and we were talking about We've talked about so much. I don't want to leave anything on the table. So was that one of the other things that you wanted to talk about, or was there another experience that you wanted to share with us. Yeah, that was the main

thing, because it kind of ties in. Like I said that, there's just certain details that span all these different experiences that are clearly not related. The clearly three different, completely different things, but there's still elements that cross over. But the other thing was you know that the eye contact is such an important detail because in all of my experiences, when they have eye contact with you, they have access, they have a form of control, they

have options, things that they can do against your will. Without the eye contact that that it's not as strong. So when it turned and looked at me, that was when the connection was made and I felt the full force of this thing. It's the same thing with et you know, like if I'm face to face with one, they will not they will they'll they won't

look directly at me. They'll be like standing, I'll go over here and they're looking past me, and if I say something or I'm communicating with them, they'll like turn their head towards me, but they won't look at me. Because once they look at you, you don't have your free will anymore. It changes everything and they know that, you know what I'm saying. So I've had interactions where I've had the option of communicating without being controlled,

and which is amazing. But that eye contact, when it looked at me, that's when the connection was made and it was inside my everything, you know what I'm saying, And that is terrifying, terrifying. Ooh, I don't know. There was one other thing, but it kind of goes into something I saw on a tree that scared me just as bad to think what could have possibly done this to this tree. But that's a whole other story. Yeah, just to tie things in nicely together with dog Man and whatever

happened to that tree. I had a farm in Kentucky for a decade, just two miles from you know, Barkley, Kentucky Lake. Every summer we keep our boat at Barkley Lake and we so we're down there all the time, and we had you know, I had the farm and all of that. So I spent a lot of time in that area. And I know there's a lot of stories about LBL which is land between the lakes. It's the space between Kentucky and Barkley Lake. So I've got all kinds of stuff

going on over there, but i'd have photographs. I actually sent them to you before this in case you wanted to take a look or we'd ended up talking about it. But I think we're kind of out of time. So that was one thing was that I think once you, like I said, you see these things face to face, if this is possible, and that's possible, then there's a whole list of things that I will never tell somebody.

I don't believe you because whatever it is you thought you saw, you know, I can fully embrace the idea that that actually happened, because believing I've been on the receiving end of so much of it that why why would I ever tell someone you know, that's I can't. I can't. I agree as long as something is possible, I leave my mind open to that.

I say it all the time. Everybody's experiences are their experiences. I created this show and all of the shows that I do to give people a space to come and talk about those things and not feel crazy, and not be judged, and just get it out there in the zeitgeist. Because sometimes I'm the only person that people have ever told their story too. I think it's very important for other people in the audience to hear that because I've said

it before. I think there's probably plenty of people that are going to hear this and they've had very similar experience as to what you've had, and they're going to a no, they're not alone, and be that it's okay to talk about it and tell other people, because I think there's power in that. In my personal opinion, I think there's a lot of power in sharing your story. And I appreciate you coming on. It's been fascinating. I

think we could probably go for another hour and a half. I really appreciate you coming on and allowing me the opportunity to hear your stories and share it with the audience. So I really do appreciate it. I did want to tell you that after that I saw the thing at the mime Amounts. I did call the BFR in the area and reported it. They called me back five or six times. Is tell it again, tell it again, tell it again. They just they kept calling back and asking me to tell it

again. And then I never heard anything else. And if you if you look it up, that the case isn't isn't there you can't find it, so I don't know what that was all about. But they were very interested in hearing me say it over and over and over, and I think part of the reason of that is because it was so bizarre. You know, they want to see if I tell it the same way every time, I think, to see if details changed or something, you know what I mean.

But that's that's I mean. I did report it because I thought that was the closest thing to what it could have been, but I knew it wasn't. I had to tell somebody, and that's so that's what happened.

But yeah, it's important. I think the details, the touchstones, the touch points that are the same in every single event, no matter who had it, what state they were in, you know, state of mind, their consciousness or whatever, there are certain details that are always the same, and I think those are key when we start to connect the dots on those unchanging points, that is where we're going to find the answers. I definitely

agree. Well, Angela, it's been a pleasure to have you on and maybe we'll have to have you back sometime in the future and dig a little deeper. Thanks so much for the opportunity, and that's all I really want to do. It's just talk about it and give people the opportunity to connect some dots. And you know, if they want to find me on Facebook, I'm just I'm Angela's stots Statz. I've got two profiles. They can contact me. I'll answer questions or whatever they say. You don't want to

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