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Top Moments From the Win Over the Dolphins, Previewing the Eagles | Salty Dogs

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Jeff and Scott discuss the highlights of the big win over Miami, answer fans' questions and diverge into such topics as libraries, Stephen King, the Inception movie and the Rathaus-Glockenspiel.

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on us now. We're welcome. Just welcome. If this is your first time, not welcome back. Um, I'm Scott Smith, Jeff Ryan, and we are the Salty Dogs. And we mostly talked about the Buccaneers, which has been a lot of fun this year the last two years. Yeah, big win, big win on Sunday. Not only a big win, but I think it was the win that I was looking for. How it how it played out. I I really felt like the team should dominate, and they eventually did so.

I'm very pleased about that. First four drives of that game all fairly lengthy drive scoring drives, trading back and forth. Each team got a touchdown in a field goal, and then the Buckner's defense finally got the first stop of the game, but the offense didn't stop, so before you knew it was ten and we did that great thing, or we don't have a chance to do that great thing that the New England Patriots and Bill Belichick supposedly

invented were because we deferred. He scored at the end of the first half, scored at the beginning of second half. Usually win a game on that that didn't didn't come through because we didn't score it. The we kind of had the only lull of the real the whole game really was the first five or six minutes of the second half, and then after that the Bucks just dominated him. I thought he was gonna make the field goal opinion, Yeah, because I was at the end. That was at the

end of the half. Yeah, so I was still I was counting us as having scored because we scored a touchdown with like less than two minutes to go, and then they were driving, looked like they were gonna score, but um Shack had the strip sack and then yeah, we got a chance at a sixty yard field and

he got pretty close. I like the call. It scared me because you know, you saw that with the Jaguars a couple of weeks ago, where you have a chance of giving up a touchdown if they put a return guy back then, and it's not the only time that's happened, because your guys on your kickoff team are mostly big, nut fast guys. Guys know if they if you get buy him, it's over. So that that made me nervous.

But he kicked it far enough that the guy trying to catch it couldn't couldn't catch it before it went out of Yeah, before we go any further, need to say Befo bradys Um, they're sponsoring us. We thank them for that. And uh, now it's time for the bee Flo Brady moment from Scott Smith. You're not gonna do the read first, Oh I can sure, let me do it. Wings and beer, beer and wings. Nobody combines some like beefau Bradies. Start with our award winning traditional or boneless

wings and a variety of sauces and dry rubs. Next, pick up your brew bees has all your faiths on tap. Befo Bradies, where game time meets beer time and wing time all the time. Now it's time. Yeah, I don't like the way you've really branded this because I mean, I don't know if I can do this for eighteen straight weeks. Well, you were telling me how awesome it is I know. I mean, if I have like twenty pay different things, I'm gonna sounds like a glutton first

of all. And I don't need something different every time I go there. Well you can just but anyway I can do it another one at least um. As I've said before, the reason I've been to be for Bradies a lot is some most families, friends, families who are all in travel baseball together for tournaments or things like that. We'd often and when we had a break go to nearby Befo Brady's for lunch and or dinner or whatever

it was. So we always had kids with us. Right, I've been telling you things that I like mostly, although I did mention the thing Ria that my wife likes. One week, Uh, several of not my son, but several of the other kids there. If you wanted to make them happy, what you ordered for them was the sampler platter on the on the appetiser menu as I believe it has on your rings and Montreal sticks and wings. Well you can't go wrong with that. Yeah, So they got all of that and they liked it. So that's

a at order for a kid. If you don't want to go to kids menu because you know, they said, I'm not talking about like five and six year old because you're still giving them the men using stuff at that time. But when they get to be like and they're eating more, you can't just do kids menu stuff anymore. And if the kids are happy, you're gonna have a happy MILLI yourself so happy. Yeah, that's something different, understand.

So this this Miami game that I was trying to talk about, Um, that's how the offense is supposed to work, right, I mean, uh, eight of eleven on third downs, thirty three first downs, which is the most we've ever had in a game that we didn't go into overtime, everybody getting involved, how Johnson had some big plays. The big three wide receivers all had big days. By the way, they're all on pace for a thousand yards thanks to

the seventeenth game, But sure they might be otherwise. I think, Um, which I was asked about a couple of times earlier before the season started, I'm like, of course it's possible, but it just doesn't seem likely that all three of them will get to a thousand yards, right. I don't know at this point if we're putting up bring in fifty passing yards a game. It's totally possible. Yeah, And I like the fact that the offense is starting to click like it was clicking at the end of last year.

That's that's what I'm most happy about. And you know, you expect so much out of it, um because you look at the talent on this team, and so you expected all the time. And when it doesn't happen right away, because oh, it's kind of wrong. What's this that you know? The Rams game was an example New England. I just thought that was a tight game. Weather played a factor,

but in a good defense. The Rams game, to my point, we just couldn't convert third downs and so you couldn't sustain drives, so we couldn't get off the field and third down. So this brings me to you get your branded thing with me and my braz I've made up this few things, a new thing a few weeks ago that we want to do each week called what was your favorite thing from the game? Okay, really just stole it from if you're not stealing, it's just way it works.

So since it's on the topic here, I will say my favorite thing was that drive. I believe it was the one that put us up after they came to within seven points, and then we had to drive. Um that put us back up by fourteen and put the game away. As it turned out, that drive was remarkable to me because we tried three. First of all, the first two plays of the drive were incomplete, so you're like, oh, they just scored, we're gonna give the ball right back

to them. Um. But nope, Antonio Brown twelve yards. We tried three deep shots on that drive. And maybe it wasn't that drive. I gotta get to the right drive. Here was it your favorite? Whatever drive it was that where Tom Brady through, Yeah, that's this is it. So he tries to throw a deep ball to Mike Evans. Doesn't work in Thretnton converts the first down anyway. Then he tries to throw a deep ball. I can't that's the place by plane. I can't find the right place.

But it was the drive. Word. He threw three incomplete deep balls. Um, and that should kill a drive. I mean, it's great to take the shot and if it works, great, but you can't keep converting long third downs. But we try the deep shot, didn't make it. But then the next two two players were easy, just bam bam, first down, bam bad. We got so many six yards to O J. Brown,

ten yards to Antonio Brown whatever, OJ HOWR. I mean, I love that drive because if you can take repeated deep shots and even if you don't get them, and you could still just sustain a long drive, that's demoralizing

for a defense. Demoralizing, and we felt that before. I think, like in the Rams game, where you're watching the other offense and you just can't get him off the field, it's demoralizing to watch that, and so that's what we'd we were We did to the Dolphins and their fans, and and I think we can do that to a lot of teams. My my favorite moment was just the ground game caught fire. Okay, that's not really a moment, that's like the entire game. Okay, well then I'll back

it up. My favorite moment was the sixty two yard touchdown to Antonio Brown because I just loved how he put the afterburner on and just took off. I broke down that play from my weekly Next Gin Stats article yesterday. I think it went up today. Um. It was fun to watch because you can one next game, you can they have a video clip of it. They've got the little grid where it shows the field and everybody's a dot with their number on it, and then when you

push go, it shows where everybody ran. It's really a neat way to watch how he develops and where everybody goes. Um. So yeah, Antonio Brown started out on the right with Davan Howard, who was an incredibly good cornerbackid in in man coverage and up close to the line. He didn't press him, he might have wanted to, but Antonio Brown off the uh snap, immediately cut inside him, got that inside leverage on him, and got ahead of him on on his crossing route. He was crossing over the top

Mike Evan's crossing over the bottom. We ended up with three receivers going three pass catchers, including Jovon Bnard going to the right side, which brought their single high safety over to that side, whereas Antonio Brown was going the other way, which is one of the reasons why there

was no help right. So Brown catches the ball. At the moment he catches it, Howard is only one point nine yards behind him, and they're both running left to right, and he's about to run into another defender Nick need Him, who was trying to cover Tyler Johnson but had fallen down so it was out of position. But Nick Needham didn't see him because he was trying to catch up

to Johnson and had his back to Antonio. Antonio as almost almost immediately after catching that pass when he's running right to left, like you said, just turns on a dime up field and boom he's got and uh, Howard never even got close to him, need Him never got close to him. They have a really fast ricky safety named Javon Holland who managed to recover and take a good angle and got to within about the yard of him,

but didn't have enough. Didn't have enough. Antonio Brown got up to a top speed of twenty five three and what's thirty two? That sounds right something like that. That was the fastest inning Buck ran that entire game. It was a very cool it. It's one of those plays that if you've been a Buck fan for a long long time, it's it's weird seeing a bucket ear offense do what it's doing, you know, I mean, defensively, you're

just as bucking your teams go. You're just used to great defensive teams and the last top of your dad's and our grandpa's. This is the last two the last two seasons. You've really seen that. And and the defense is playing stellar too, I mean, you know better. Well, they just don't have everybody. So that's why I think defensively they've been playing well. Getting more to pressure, that's

the main thing. Well, and I find that really interesting because Shack Barrett made that comment a few weeks ago that from here on out, three or more sacks a game we were gonna get. He said, we would never have another one second so and so so far he's been right two weeks in a row, and he's had handed it all times. His strip sack. He has more strip sacks and more turnovers caused by pressure, which includes like if you hit the quarterback and it turns the interception.

He has more of those than anybody else in the NFL since he arrived here in two thousand nine. Yeah, So, I mean that's that was also on my list of favorite things because I had a couple of them because when that play was going on, he's trying to come around the the end on the blind side of the quarterback and it looks to me all the world like he's being held. I'm going holding, holding, I'm saying this. I'm trying not to say it loud because we're in

the press. I was supposed to, but I'm going holding, and he still got through and got the strips. Act. That was an impressive play. Yeah, no, it was. It was. It was a fun Okay. The other thing I loved about that game is it was at one o'clock and it was over within like three hours. Absolutely phenomenon, the best. Don't get any of the minute. I forgot how awesome that is and important since we have to play on Thursday,

it would have been bad to have a late afternoon game. Yeah. Well, the I with the The um fun part about a one o'clock game when you're at home is you get to be a football fan for the late games. And that's that's what I did. I ended up watching, Uh jeez. I was flipping between the UM forty niners because I wanted to see how they were going to do without a quarterback against the Cardinals. I was flipping from that.

Then I was flipping to the Bears game in the Raiders game, and then no, no, no, I was just flipping flipping, and then I flipped to the Chargers Browns game and locked in on that game one, and I kept I was, are you kidding over a thousand yards? And then they have the crazy part where Cleveland is pulling the running back into the end zone. Yes, because he tried to stop so they could just kicking easy and run out the time. All right. I have seen defenses.

I've even seen the Bucks do it once. I've seen defenses purposely let the guy get into the end zone because they know their only chance is to have some time to score a touchdown. But if you let them run out the clock and kick a field all your day. So I've never seen them. Because he starts, I don't know why they handed off and didn't just kneel. He starts running to the goal, tries to stop. He tried to stop, He tried, he tried to take more time

off the clock. And yeah, that was his thinking. And then he said the next thing he knew he was being picked up and putting. You heard an interview, huh, Yeah. Yeah, it was a great play. I mean, the phenomenal game on both teams. I mean, holy, some funny thing is you're not allowed as an offensive player to pull a teammate into into the ze, you're not allowed to, but a defensive players shin, which is weird. Yeah, well, all of that when you get to the end zone, all

of that's weird. Where a running back can drop the ball once he's in the end zone and it's a touchdown, a wide receiver catches it and falls to the ground and drops it. No, that's not it. But you know, why don't you because you suppose that you don't have position of the ball. Yeah, and if you run across the line, or if a receiver catches a ball the ten and runs across the line, is the same thing, because you've already established possession. So it doesn't matter if

you once across the end zone inline, you're done that. Yeah. But if you catch a ball in the end zone and follow the ground, the NFL says for a catch to be complete and you have to hold onto it through contact with the ground. Yeah, you look, it doesn't even matter. That's in the end. It just happens to be in the end zone. Right. If you look across the league right now, defensive coordinators must be shaking their heads because if you start looking at scores, it's crazy

now for the fans. They love it, and I'm sure fantasy football fans are just enjoying it immensely. Are of what's going on. Um so uh, but I do think it's like anything else. You know, the defensive coordinators will start figuring out how to shut things down. I think we've just reached an era of the NFL warre. This is what it is now because you can't hit anybody anymore. Well, and there's all kinds of rules that help. But also there's been you know, revolutions of how offenses are run.

I mean, we even we're gonna get our first real look this week at like a quarterback who adds the offense with his legs and r P O s and zone reads. Um, you know, we don't even have any of that. But you know, it's there's a lot of it has to do with the rules and and uh. But I just think in US they make some significant rule changes. I don't think we're going backwards from here. You know. Yeah, the difference recordiners will figure out some

stuff and some are better than others. But I think it's what I said a couple of weeks ago in Today's NFL Basically you want to try to build a dominant offense because you have to to keep up with some of these teams and just kind of hope you can.

Your defense comes along. That's kind of what's happened with us this season, and it has come along the last couple of weeks, even with all the injuries, and that I think that's that's probably, Uh, I think that's what I'm most impressed with, because of all the injuries, the fact that you know they're shoring up, they're hanging in there. You know, if they're giving up place they don't necessarily

want to, but then they come back, they bend, don't break. Um, giving up a field goal rather than a touchdown, get a couple of turnovers and key and key points batting the ball away. Unfortunately, Um, you know, in the New England game, Lavanti David did Dad Play of the game, UM, and Lavante with a high ankle sprain. So it's we had to talk about that. But I'm not talking about it, no, no, cheez. That's just that's just the guy. You don't want to see you go down. I'm not saying we can't replace

him for however long he's out. Kevin Minner is a good player, and he played well for what he generally does. He generally does um. But that's what I'm that's that's kind of what I what I mean about when I was talking about are the defense not being the defense because you don't have all your which you would consider your top players, But in this defense, everybody's a top player. There's so much talent. Did you hear who was it shack Shack say about? What would Richard Sherman coming up

to him? It was Leonard for that when he says Richard Sherman comes up to him during the game and goes, dude, I'm paraphrasing, Yeah, I've never been on a team with all this talent on right, And I think he mostly was describing the offense. There's a lot of town to defensive players too. Yeah. Yeah, it's just like and he said this, s h I T is different, This crap different. I think we've said shot on this before. Well, okay,

I'll leave it. I've said it not you, but I find I did, but I got you to say it, so the kids think, the kids, oh, yeah, you know what, though, you have to overcome injuries in the NFL. The hardest part is when they concentrated a specific position like we've had in the secondary, but everybody's getting injuries. The Buckets were very fortunate to not have too many injuries last year. That's often part of this story of a very successful team. This year, they're having to prove that they can do

it even with a more normal amount of injuries. And and I think that seventeenth game is really going to have an effect. It it's we'll see, Well, that's what I'm saying. We're going to have to wait and see. How when are you gonna know that it had an effect in the seventeenth game. Yeah, Well, it's the same length of the season until you get to the last game.

That's what I'm talking about. That's what I mean. So in the last week, everything's gonna crumble, like like the buildings and may not have it depends on how many is left, who's left, who's left standing? Well, no, week seventeen, Well, I think this is going to be a very interesting NFC race because it's very top heaven. Um. You know, you've got Arizona five and oh Bucks Packers and two other teams I believe, or at least one Dallas they're

all four and one. Um, so that's five teams. If there's five teams that are four and one are better, I think I'm forgetting one of them. Um. That's and I think they're all very good. I don't think their flukes. The Rams are the other one. You got five oh team and four four and one teams at this point. I don't know if that's unusual. I didn't check against other seasons, but I think they're all good teams. I think they're all um gonna be there at the end.

You do wonder a little bit about the Rams and the Cardinals because that division is so good, and they're gonna start picking the they're off a little bit. That's the whole right, And I'm not saying that the NFC South isn't good, but Carolina has shown some cracks. Atlanta is not very good so far. New Orleans is good. But I don't think I'm cold. Yeah, they're hot and cold. You don't know what you're gonna get there. You know what I meant to say at the very beginning. So

then now that just popped in my head. This is an unusual week because it's Thursday, So this is an unusual this is in our normal podcast structure because we're playing on Thursdays, which we're playing on Thirsdy, what did I say. You said it's Thursday. Oh well, that wouldn't be surprising because today totally feels like Wednesday to me. You can't convince me it's not Wednesday. It's because you're living in the football life. It's Tuesday, but it's totally wins.

I'm doing all the things that normally do on Wednesday. It's it's funny you say. It's funny. You say that because I've been in conversations with people and they go, no, it's Tuesday, and I am because tomorrow we go to Philadelphia. Um, yeah, so you've gotta have everything done. So to me, this is this is not even a Wednesday combination Wednesday. To me, it's like a Friday. Okay, well, it's more like Wednesday for me. So it gets very very confused. But because

of that, and because the schedule is very compressed. As an example, Tom Brady was saying, when asked about how to prepare for this, it's like you just it's like cram in for an exam. You just put everything else off to this side. They've got they had most of their offense installed by today at ten forty five, which is Tuesday, whereas they don't even usually start installing until

a Wednesday on a normal week, so everything condensed. They have more hours here than they usually would on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, so we did not think it was wise to ask for a player guest this week. We just didn't even ask. I mean, the PR guys have been great at helping us out, the players have been great at agreeing to do it, but we didn't even want to ask him, you know, and and you know, I needed to get someone to do the radio show, and I didn't want to make too many asks. Well, we

didn't want to make too many asks. And actually it worked out quite nicely because we had Ryan suck Up and um uh Bradley Pinion do the show. And how that came about was a they were they were willing to do it, and we wanted to talk to them, and it was the perfect week to do that because the way the schedule laid out, they had a little more free time than everybody else. Well that and and

that's but but it was it was. It's really good stuff though they both did really, really well, and so, uh, these short weeks create a lot of havoc and uh, you know for us to ask someone and and sometimes the guys will do it, but a lot of times you just rush. It's like the practice schedule. I just didn't feel right asking them to be honest with you. I mean, you know, they're doing walkthroughs, which is which

is good. Um, but it's still time consuming. Yeah, And I know everybody is saying what it's the correct thing to say that, Well, the Eagles have to go through this too, because they played on something. But adding in the travel is does there's a higher level of difficulty for the travel team on a Thursday game. Not enormous, but it's there. So they have to actually do some preparations on Wednesday and travel, which is a lot. And

then you're sitting around in your hotel room all day Thursday. Yeah. Yeah, which players and coaches don't like. I don't mind too much. Well, it just depends on where we are and what's going on. And it was weird though on Sunday to get up to get it, not get up early. I always get up early, but to get up and go and be driving at eight thirty Sunday morning, head into the stadium.

It was like old yeah time. But hey, I diverted us from our talks of injury, and I just want to say as I was, I was trying to get to the point of we're not unique. There were tons of injuries across the league. There have been in there war this week, Like, look at the Giants and they're not even having a good year. So this is just seems extra brutal that they lose Daniel Jones, Sequan Barkley, and Kenny Golladay all in warrants, and our our friend

Mike Glennon is suddenly in the game. No offense to Mike, but Winds haven't really followed him around. Poor Mikey went in and the first thing he did through a pick. Yeah. I actually was looking at that game. That was the Dallas Giants game. That was the other game that that I was flipping through. Um yeah, yeah, Mike is um he's he's just been put in some tough sure, but I mean he's got a job in the NFL, and he keeps getting occasional starts. But I mean like, uh,

Taysom Hill got hurt, Joe Burrow got it. There were two guys taken to the hospital for throat can tusions. Yeah to Joe Burrow and that Browns or that Brown's rookie linebacker, Jeremiah Coram. You know you have to get hit really hard to get a throat a throat in Tusia, that's gotta be That sounds bad form. I'm not interested in having one of the Packers already without their great corner Jay or Alexander and now Kevin King got hurt in that game. I know we have memories of Kevin King.

That wouldn't make you wonder if that's a good or a bad thing for the Packers. But it's hard to find competent corners which Cleveland Denzel Ward went down, Clyde Edward Slayer went on injured reserve today, Joe Juju Smith Schuster isn't gonna be able to play this weech Hyreek Hill got hurt, Joe Tuney, I mean I didn't. I just wrote down a few. There's there's a lot more than this, you know it, And I think that's where you know, as we've talked previously, that's where the scouting

department really comes into play. Yeah, Well, and how they go they have the board, they know who's who's available. It's going what's next? Who do you bring in? How do you bring him in? Um? I think, uh, you know, bringing people in. I think Richard Sherman uh has really done a remarkable job. And and we made a comment during the broadcast that he really didn't we didn't give him enough love for what he did in the New England game. Well you and I did, but in our

broadcast we didn't. Um. And I think he's got about two more weeks and I think he'll be in his football shape. Yeah, that'll And then his veterans said, right now, he's winning enough on veteran experience. Yeah, he's he's he knows what he's supposed to do. His mind's telling him where to go, but the legs aren't getting him there. And I don't think it's because he doesn't have He just has to get him back. I got to get

it back. Yeah, Like he may uh may be able to give that burst of speed one or two plays, but to have to do it all the time, play after playing, he didn't come back totally ready to do that, which is fair. Sure, no nobody would. No, Well, there's that thing called football. Shape, and players will tell you all the time. You can be in shape, but football shape, it's a whole other ball game together. That's good. We only punted one time in that game. That's usually a

good sign. Yes, I think that therefore we should only punt once in every game and then we'll win. Well, you are giving up a chance to uh, to advance the ball. Are not advanced the ball, but you give up the ball. But you know, there's that conversation of you know, do you punt? Where do you punt? Uh? Yeah, I was just making a joke. I'm not trying to get no, no, no, But I was thinking about Miami where they were going to go. There went on the field,

but they go through the whole. Anywhere they go through the whole. I was surprised. I was surprised that they called the time out and then came back out and tried to do it again. And I'm like, come on, yeah, we know what you're punting you just yeah. Anytime you see that, and it's in that situation, if they don't snap it right away, it's almost always they're trying to get you, and then they start sending guys in motion.

How many times did their center to the thing where he suddenly lifted his head, which I didn't know you could do. He would be crashed down looking and it suddenly lift his head up and then we're all supposed to jump. At that point. You watched the ball. You watched the ball. You know what was the What was the DT that we had for Baker for one year from Washington? Yeah, he jumped off. He jumped Carolina. Carolina not last game of the year. He did not make

any friends on that day. That was his last game as a book. He was not that was not appreciated by his team. Was his nickname Shaggy? What was his first name? Well, that's from Washington. That was the That was the hard Knocks year. Yep, um, So believe it or not. Tom Brady and a lot of people have probably already heard this, but it's worth mentioning. Is it? The three something like three hundred well accounting playoffs, more like three and fifty games into his career, he did

something this Sunday they ain't never done before. You probably heard, right, had four hundred yards and five touchdowns. He's done four hundred yards like twelve times and he's done five touch on passes like nine times, but this is the first time he's done them both at the same time. It was funny we were talking were they were talking about it, and they made a comment that he had five touchdowns

and Genos, no, he only has four. And because there was a running touchdown, Um, yeah, for net scored a touchdown and we went oh, and then very quickly, yeah, gets one he has I wouldn't. I wanted to mention on that. You were saying, we don't, we haven't. We're not used to seeing this kind of offense. And we were talking about the Antonio brut first on first tocho Yeah, I think that's the first one, and we described and that became that became the play of the game on

our webcam and with Gene calling it's pretty good. I uh, I already described how that happened. And you that we're not used to seeing this kind of offense. I would say, in particular, we're not used to seeing that kind of play. This offense even last year with Tom Brady and even before that with um Winston and Fitzpatrick had plenty of exposure plays, plenty of big long place I can remember, like the Philly game last time I played Philly first play the game to Sean Jackson seventy five yards and

then O. J. Howard has seventy yard. But most of those are on very deep passes. We we've hit Mike Evans countless times, like on this his first touchdown, and it was basically just to go and he beat the guy the outside and there was no safety quals enough and and Tom put the perfect through in there. I can't think of a ton of times where we've we've had fifty plus yard plays where it was a rulatively short pass that the pass catcher turned into in this case,

a sixty two yard touchdown. We haven't had a ton of those. So usually bombs where it was a great route or something, or a great play design or a blown coverage and a great pass. But that's a little thing that we haven't had a lot of, and that's something that Antonio Brown can give you. And what I love about it is that could happen at any given moment. That's what I love about offense. Construct you're you just

you just don't feel like you're out of anything. For Tom Brady too, it has to be an unbelievable feat for it to be the first time that Tom Brady has done. Are you are you surprised how well he's playing? Um, it's just because it's Tom Brady. No, theoretically, am I surprise that at forty four year old quarterback is playing as good as any quarterback in the league and just bombing away and putting up ridiculous numbers. Yeah, theoretically that's weird.

But at this point, why shouldn't we expect that of Tom Brady? Well, that's that's what I mean. You expect it. Now you're not. But but if you just step back for a second look at what he's doing. You know he's playing, but not only is he playing, he's playing

at a very high level as he's ever playing. I felt like there are points last year that we would say that, but maybe it was stretch on the point a little bit, but not anymore since December last year when he got this and that was really all that was holding him back from being this type of producing quarterback is a firmer grass of the offense and he's

got that, and you got you. I was on your pregame show with Ronnie and John and John asked me, He's like he's saying, how good Brady's playing, but he's like he's throwing forty three passes a game roughly. Is there at some point where you get concerned that you're forty four quarterback is going to throw too many passes

this season? And I think we think about that because we remember pretty vividly the Peyton Manning here he went to he went from Indy de Denver, came back from his neck injury and had a couple of seasons where he was vintage Peyton Manning and they you know, through like fifty five touchdown passes. It was just amazing. And then he had the season where he basically his arm

gave out. He still want this, still made Super Bowl, Right, He managed the game, he managed the team, but he clearly, like Drew Brees last year, their arms weren't there anymore. The Drew Brees in the Drew Brees lack of arm strength was an enormous factor in our win playoff win in New Orleans. Right, But don't see that yet. Yeah, And I just don't think you can go, Okay, I'm worried about a forty four year old pass or throwing too many passes this season, So we're gonna stop throwing forty.

I mean it's working. He's in great shape. He obviously knows how to keep himself in shape better than most people in the entire world. And until it's not, until you see a sign of an issue, I don't, I think you just go with it. Yeah, I'm sure he doesn't want to pull back. No, no, no no. I think that's why it's still because it's still loose, it's still stretched. It's all correct, except for maybe it's thumb right now. Uh. I guess we would call him Tom Thumb.

And I know you're going to do that. Um so Tom anytime. Tom. I I did like the fact that he's sitting on the bench with his hand in an ice chest. And now you're gonna like this with just chilling, you know, chill him out. You and your puns today, Um come on, you're loving it. I love puns, but yours aren't very good. Wow. Uh let the audience be the judge of that. Um go ahead. Well he made me lose my train thought with simple to throw you off track. Yeah, nowadays I just can't keep a train thought.

So his thumb he hurt. He bangs it on the helmet of a Miami pass rusher. Uh. He said today it was about with two left in the first half. Obviously he played the rest of the game and had no issues being awesome and uh Byron left, which the play caller didn't even know about it till late in the game. But you're Tom Brady, you show up an injury report, you're any quarterback, you show up in an injury report with your something wrong with your throwing hand,

that's big news. So there's been a news, but it's fortunately Tom has been a need to talk today pretty much making everybody feel calm by going it's fine, it's sore, I'll be fine, It's not a big deal. So that's the good news. Is um threshold for pain is pretty high. I guess maybe just because even if you're you know, if you if you bang it up and you gotta

grips and you gotta squeeze. So for that period of time of squeeze, it's not Yeah, it's not like and and what I look at how many times under center taking a snap you know bought you know you do more shot and every time you every time you grab the ball, you have to squeeze it. You can't go, well, I'm only gonna squeeze it when I'm gonna throw. Yeah. And I know there's this thought that when players have injuries their arms and legs, sometimes they give him some

kind of shot to numb it a little bit. You can't do that with you. You can't do that with your throwing. And I wouldn't think so, because you gotta be you gotta be able to feel it, you know, you gotta have that feels to have the touch on your throws. I think, yeah, maybe you work a long and long ago. I had a player tell me that they had their their foot was bad and they had it numbed up, and they said they would never do it again because it was like a rubber foot, and

then they didn't know it was there. It was it was more. It was, you know, more um cumbers, so to speak. Like if you fall asleep with your arm in a weird way and then you wake up and it's useless for a while. You try to lift it up and it hurts. I had the two shoulder dislocations years ago from softball, and in both cases, after they popped it back in, I then spent like three weeks with my arm and I was slinging a swath and then when it came out actually six weeks when alright,

when it came out, it was like useless. It's just so weird. I tried to play a softball game because we were down. A guy I played was playing first, and the throw comes over to me and I couldn't even get my arm up and and I'm like and the ball goes whizzing by me and almost hits the base room. Like okay, guys, I can't play first. Somebody's gonna get hurt over here. So it was back to catch er. Yeah. Crazy, But if anybody can play with an injury like that, it's gonna be Tom Jpp, who

can apparently played through anything. Just about missing one coming back. Missed one game, I guess he missed two. He missed two, he missed l a and he but still, yeah, he's got a hard hand to he's playing with a club on his hand, and I think that was one of the reasons why he couldn't get Jacoby Brissette down on ridiculous play. He brist made some impressive plays. He played well I thought were I thought he was gonna get

sacked like five times. He played tough too, because he's playing through a hamstring, and I was just gonna say he played, he played tough. They announced it's like the second quarter, they announced the sideline calls up to the announced that the you know TV, in the in the internet, in the press facts, they announced Jacoby Brissette hamstring questionable to return. And then like literally like a minute later, they get the ball and he's back in the game.

But if they hadn't you know who their only other quarterback was read that he was with us. We signed him as an undrafted free agent last year. I remember, I remember because the storyline was going into that draft, this would be the draft um that, uh he. We were interested in getting a developmental quarterback at some point in the draft if it fell right, didn't fall right,

we didn't draft one. But they said there is a guy we like this before we signed anybody, there is a guy we like that we're gonna try to bring in as an undraft free agent. It was him. So they had some thought that maybe he could stick in the league, and and right now he is because he's on Miami's active roster. So with two down problem um so. But I still think they would have been in trouble if he'd had to see his first inteval action against US. Yeah.

That I was trying to decide what kind of team Miami was going to be. And when they first started, I thought they were playing playing well. They certainly were on offense and uh, but that's why I was most pleased about this game. It's that I thought before the game started during the week, I thought you should really, you know, put them away, and it shouldn't be a close game. I didn't think it was going to be

a close game, So he's happy that it wasn't. Yeah, they're they're off their defensive really had no answers for us, and I'm not even sure what to expect on Thursday night other than um, I don't know, because they really don't know a lot about Let's talk about that, and we should talk about the because they have a new coach. They made they made big decisions that the two most

important positions or jobs head coach and quarterback. Doug Peterson had won a Super Bowl at the end of the seventeen season, got him back to the playoffs wild card in eighteen and nineteen, and then they were like four eleven and one and or last place in like the worst division of the UNFL scene and alone, and it did not end up well at the end of the well that but there's a lot of questions about who made that collision and almost as if Doug Peterson was

thrown under the bus what we're talking about. In case you don't know, I think Carson Wentz was hurt at the time. Jalen Hurts was playing, played like the first half, and they pulled him for and I can't even remember the name of the other quarterback, saying they wanted to get him. Some want to get and it became it came an issue for the Giants because they needed Philly to beat Washington, I think, to have a shot, and

no everybody knew what was going on. They were trying to lose the game to get a better because it didn't matter to them to get a better draft spot. And it's understandable they probably should just started the game with that guy though, but anyway, probably not a quarterback in the future for them, since I can't remember his name and he's not on the roster anymore. Because after they traded Carson Wentz and made Jalen Hurts the starter for this season, they signed Joe Flacco and traded for

Gardner Minshew, so they kind of redid that whole. Jalen Hurts is off to a good start. I think there's a lot of doubters that he can that he can stick as a productive starting quarterback in the NFL, But so far, I think the returns have been very good. He's got a ninety three point three passer rating. Um, he's completing like passes and he's giving them that other dement dimension with his ability to make plays either on a scramble or broken play or they design runs for him.

He's actually their leading rusher he has he has He has only five carries, less than they're leading ball carrier Miles Sanders, but he has the most yards, like two or fifty six yards. The only quarterback and league running more is Lamar Jackson. And maybeat Carolina next week. Yes, they they look bad for a game and Hurts had to rushing touches and they I think, uh, they had a pick at the end. They did, Um, Carolina had

a pick. They don't. They don't really commit to like running between the tackles very much, but they do like to throw to their running backs. And we saw how that was effective. Miles Gaskin was the best weapon for Miami by far, um, so that's a concern. Then throwing the ball to Miles Sanders and Kenneth Gainwell. DeVante Smith has looked pretty good, the guy they drafted tenth um. They still have those tight ends. I mean everybody said that Urtz was gonna get traded and he never did.

So you still have hurts and got heard. If that's how that's pronounced, that's a good tight end um duo. Their main problem this year has been, just like Miami that we just faced, they can't get a set five offensive line due to injuries. Seriously, they have someone on COVID. I believe you know. They have right guard Brandon Brooks starting the season, right guard Brandon books On. I r he tore a peck, left guard Isaac Simaoulululo. I think, um he he's out too for a while. Um, I

don't remember his injury. And the right tackle Lane Johnson is away from a team on undisclosed for undisclosed personal reasons, and their head coach recently said he doesn't know if he'll be back this season. So they're they're working in a second round rookie Landon Dickerson. But otherwise they're mixing things up a lot, and they've had a bunch of different by necessity, a bunch of different online combinations. It hasn't been a disaster. They've they've given him decent protection.

But that's hard and it's a big, big contrast with the Bucks, who all their five have been intact all this year, and we're for most of last year's We've had very good fortune on our offensive line, which builds chemistry, which, by the way, I think I thought the offensive line played really really well. Um sunday, Okay, our offensive line did well. I mean I think they generally have been Yeah. Yeah, I think it's the run blocking is getting better. That's

that's important. We were we were about that if you can run the ball like that, and you can eat running the ball. You were talking before about how demoralizing it is a defense that's not only not only are you running the ball on them, but now you're throwing the ball on them too. Yeah. No matter what you're doing, you can't stop it. And it's just like, really, there's certainly two schools of thought on whether you need to be successful running the ball for play action to work.

But I think our coaches believe that the better running game is the more bite there isn't our play action, and they know more about football than I do. So and back to the Eagles, Uh, they have a potentially very good defense. They're always good up front because they poured tons of resources into him. A couple of years ago. I guess they signed defensive tackle Javon Hargrave from the

Steelers after his fourth four years with the Steelers. At the time, not all Philly fans were thrilled about it because they didn't have a ton of cap space and they really had big needs at like corner and receiver and offensive line. So why are we putting even more money into this when we already have Fletcher Cox and the number of other good frontline players. Well, Javon Hargrave

is the best interior defensive linemen in the league. So far this year, He's got six sacks, which is the most by anybody, and his pressure percentage of pass rushes is the best in the entire league. And that includes edge rushers, not just interior guys. You know, Jeff, that sort of pressure like Warren Sap used to give us directly up the middle is what quarterbacks hate the most. Can blow up your offense the quickest, and it's hard

to find. It is hard to wind. So now the Eagles are thrilled, their fans are thrilled that they have Javon Hargrave because Fletcher Cox is getting up there. He's still a great player, been to last six Pro Bowls. But it's hard Graves. Now, that's that's kicking butt and

and it's and that's a hard place to play. And Philly, yeah, and Cox, Fletcher Cox is I think he had his first sack of the year last week, but he's had a number of plays like Vita Vea where he's he's attracting double and triple teams and that's helping out Hargrave and Josh Watt and Derek Barnett. So there's a little bit of for you on the you know, that's one of the advantages. They take a while, some of these stories that I read in week, but the scouting report

is an example. It forces me to go through all their team and find the strengths of weaknesses and and so now I can just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, see down tomorrow when I'm flying, I'll be reading the press stuff from from the Eagles. I read all their game releases things of that nature on the downtime. Yeah. Interesting though, something um really cool happened to me on Twitter last week.

What so pray tell um? I Okay, I was answering a question in my on my mail bag last week, the written one, and it was just a kind of a cheeky question by some guy from Canada, um about why are Super Bowl champions referred to as world champions when you don't you're really not play in the whole world.

And it's a it's a joker that's been made many many times, and he was just basically joking, like the World Series in baseball, you're not playing, and it's worth it's more greaches in baseball because there is a lot of good baseball around the world, whereas there's no real

competition anywhere else in American football. So UM, I remind me, I also want to talk about and now that I start talking about that, the Germany games that they're talking Okay, So but on this story, inside his question, he made some joke about the Fuccaneers or Galactic Football Champions or

something like that. Well, I happen to have read a series of science fiction books by an author named Scott Sigler that's called The Galactic Football League, and it really literally is about centers around American football being played on planets all across the galaxy in the distant future and with aliens, you know, and it's I know you're laughing because it sounds a little silly, but there's there's a lot of substance to these books, so I like him

quite a sure. They they delve into they explore some topics like racism and sexism and crime and gambling stuff that that's relevant, right, And and they're writing about football is actually quite good. I mean, you know, sometimes you read or watch something about sports and they just don't get the sport right. You know. Any case, the author somehow found this and tweeted about it because he appreciated it.

Ended up later one of the things he said to me was, I just don't we don't get a lot of attention from sports reporters, which he because that was back up, you make a comment about I wrote about the book and about the art author about the books, about the I mentioned the author, and then he reached out to you. Well, first he just tweeted out, um a link to it, you know, probably basically for his fans. And then he later yeah, tweeted at me and said thank you and some of his fans and then started

following me. I started to tweeting to me about other books of his that are very good. That is so cool, it's better. So I went on to I when we followed each other, I went on direct message and told him some story that I'm not going to share here, but in the story, um, I lent somebody the first two of the five books of his that I had, and I never got him back, And um, there was a reason for telling the story that you told me about that that you had lent the books and never

got it back. You talked about that we talked about because it was Jameis Winston. Yeah, I thought he might appreciate them. He told me he wanted to read more. I never got him back from and you didn't want to ask him for him back because you felt like, well, like a year later, I said, hey, did you ever get around reading those books I gave you? And his answer mad clear that he had not. So I was hoping at that point he would volunteer. Hey, do you want him back, but you want to ask. So I

never got him back. So I told Scott this story, Scott Sigler, and he said, oh, well, we'll send you replacements for those two. And now I didn't even know there's a sixth book in the series, and he's gonna send me that too, which was way more than he should do. But now that is one of the few positive stories to come from Twitter. Yes, yes, from social media. That is very cool. You know, Jeff, I used to I don't read as much as I used to. I

just don't have time. I go, I get books from a library now and then, but I can't say I read more than you know, five or six books a year. At this point, I used to read a lot, and I used to read a lot of science fiction. And he was very appreciative and kind about the fact that I brought some attention to his books. But on my end, how many times am I ever going to end up in a conversation with an author of a series of books that I appreciate someone something. It's just not a

random person. Be Like, if somehow, all of a sudden, I'm talking to Neil Stevenson, who you won't know who that is? But he's one of my favorite sci fi writers. And um, I mean it's just it's not something ever expect to happen. So it was neat. No. I that's I'm glad you shared it with us, because that is um. You know anyway, if you like science fiction and football, check these books. You know you talk about reading. I

like to read a lot. I read, but you probably don't read science fiction, right, Um, it does it just it depends. But um, I'm reading right now, I'm reading Stephen King's lad He's still putting up books all the time now. But here's what's what's different. What is it called. It's called Billy Summers and um, it is not. It is not Stephen king Ish If that makes any sense. Well, I mean I think I know what you mean that because when in the eighties I read all his books

stopped after that. Yeah, it's not The stand is the best book? Yeah? Do you think it's not? Okay? Um, so yeah, but I go to library too, good for you public library? Yeah, because better to get the books free. Oh yeah, you get on get get on the list early,

get them when they're new. It's awesome, totally. I've been trying to get this one book that I read about this really good by a Chinese author, and it's like they have two copies in the whole freaking library system, and so you have to put it on hold, and then it goes there are two copies and sixteen holds ahead of you. I'm like, okay, it's gonna be months before I ever get So I did get the book once, and I didn't get a very good start into reading it,

so it was overdue several times. So I brought it back hoping that I could renew it. And when I tried to, like, know, you have to give that up to the next person in line, and I haven't come close to sniff and if you and and they don't do late charges anymore, they don't do the library does not do late charges. That happened a couple of years ago. Take your card away, but they won't do they won't

let you in it. Yeah, they freeze it. Yeah to you, did you know how many items you can have checked out from a library at once, at least around here? Take a guess fifty what you can have up to fifty items checked out from these libraries or anything time? May I ask why you would know that. I can't remember how I found that up, but it's absolutely hundred percent true. And I would never ever do that because I'd be terrified I would never be able to find

all fifties and end up having to buy them. Now, I mean, you could have, like I guess you could have like ten movies, but what would how could you

see to me? That is a that would be unless you have well what if you were had what if you were like an orphanage or so well, no, no, if you were a family and you have kids, kids could do like five kids, I could see that where it doesn't take long to read them or whatever, and so you don't want to go to the library a lot during the you know, back and forth, back and forth, so you use, okay, kids, we're all gonna go, and it's like a yeah, monthly thing or twice, you know,

twice whatever. Okay, I could probably the same people that go to Sam's once a month and do all their shopping, grocery shopping. Once I go to a grocery store like every two out of every three days. Yeah, it's not very efficient, and it's I'm the same with the library. I just go whenever I want. Well, that's but yeah, I mean the wild and crazy guys you are. You do see I mean I see people doing a lot of movies at once. Yeah, they just like to do that.

Or they have music CDs and stuff. Sure who uses those anymore? I don't know. Yeah, but that's that that you like. That is a great story. The Galactic Football League series. The first book is called The Rookie. Um, yeah, it's cool. There's so in the now that you're in a future where the human race is spread across the galaxy and also diverged a little bit, like I think the protagonists I can't remember this skin might have been

blue or something. But um, then you have aliens that are playing in the league, and so there are certain positions where the only people that the only beings that play them are certain alien group because nobody else can hang with them, like the all the receivers and dbs are I can't remember the name's not doing this very good favor because it's been a while since I read them. You can't remember the names and details very well. But it's a race that is somewhat insect like, and they

can run extremely fast and jump really really high. So you like a human wouldn't be able to cover. So they're all the receivers and all the dbs that things like that. Sure, there's others that are all the linemen because they're so big. Things like that. Interesting. It sounds I'm making it sound like youth youth, adult youth, uh fiction, but it really isn't. It's it's you would enjoy. Well, it's it is addressing societies issues in a different manner. Yeah,

it's pretty cool. Alright, enough of that. Um, I think I've done everything on my list, Jeff, and we don't have a guest this week, as we mentioned, so we can just go right to the questions. You know, we were going to talk about the Germany games they announced yesterday I think today today. Yeah, well last night they

kind of dumped it after the other news. They are basically I don't know what the order is auditing or whether they're they're looking at bids from Usseldorf, Frankfurt and Munich to possibly hold some games maybe in five years from now years start holding games like we have in London, which makes a ton of sense, and I'm surprised it has taken this long because I think football is American football is bigger in Germany. It's just about anywhere else there.

I was reading a thing where, um, we get questions from the kid have like three million uh fans that are registered to some NFL and that. Um oh, I wish I had that. I think games will do great over it was it was like they they had games being watched. Uh. So you're correct in in that that it's very I've been to Munich, yes, okay, because I was trying to I don't have any idea to know

which one I'd most like to go to. Um well, Munich. Uh, Munich is the most modern city in Germany because it was pretty much bombed out during World War two, so you don't have but it's a really it's it's a very Uh. Well, they got the Glockenstein there, which is in in the plaza where it's like a gigantic clock where it rotates out. It's so cool. Block ins. Yeah, it's so cool. I believe that's out said um but uh that, I'll tell you that. The best part, and

I know this is going to South Wake. No, the best part is having beer in Germany. I've heard that's a different experience. It's it is, you know in America, we uh advertise the packaging. You know, Oh look at the can. Oh it turns blue. Look at this, Oh look at it? An easy twist off top. No. In Germany, it's about the taste. And um. Went to a beer garden that had um, I think it was able to hold like seven thousand people hello and um at once. And when that sounds more like a beer forest, it's

it's a beer. It's it is. It is kind of it is in the woods type thing. Yeah, and it's so I mean this one who I want to It was so cool and so it's just seven thou people wandering around drink. Well, here's the problem. I I don't do well with crowds. I've never been. I don't know why. I mean, it's hither. Yeah, it kind of dumb. I know I go to football games seventy thousand people, but I just give it up in your little box, yeah I I yeah. So anyways, going, UM, I thought, oh Jesus,

we're gonna be here forever. How am I going to get a beer? You know this that they have it down like you just in boom boom boom boom done and you just go sit at any table, which is very very cool because it's un American, like you're saying, they have these revolutionary ideas of lines and tables. Yeah, but you know, but moves quickly, moves quickly. They have good people working the day, know what they're doing. And then the cool part is it is like most in Europe,

you just sit with other people. You just sit out. There's the places it you sit you you know, you know here you got to stay with you yeah, you stay with your own little group. And so that was very very cool. Um. I have heard that even some German beer brands have a different I don't know what you'd call it, formula for what they are they sell in the United States, Like if you had a drum, what's a good what's a German beer brand is is Becks Germany. If you had a bex here, it doesn't

taste the same as what the becks they make. And I don't think anything, uh, like they're trying to cater to American taste. Maybe well, it's a it's a different, it's a it's a it's a beer beer taste. I mean, it's not even becks. In a long time, I used to really like that. The um. The interesting part about it is that but don't drink of your own age. No, but see that's just I don't talk about drinking a beer. Yeah. No, I don't think there's I don't think there's an age limb.

I was making a disclaimer after I mentioned drinking. Oh oh, I see I don't drink kids. Yeah, but Munique is a really cool city. Um. But but I have not um been to the others, but I would like to. I I enjoyed um being in Germany. It was nice. I would very much like to go to one of I mean, I hope we're I hope were one of the teams really pushing for it. The London trips have been cool, and the last one my wife and son came over and we went to Paris, so that was

the best. But Germany, I would I would much rather go to Germany than back to London. Again, no offense to London because it was great, but I'd like to. You know what else is in Munich? The Enigma what's that? That was um device to break code in World War Two? But you know, I want to go see it because I wanted to see it. And I walked around this museum for like over an hour and a half, could not looking looking, could not enma it was. And the

thing was, I was expecting something really really big. It's like, yeah, it's like a little mixing board. Um. But yeah, no, you would like it over there. I want to go. I want to go, hopefully. I want to Well remember when they had the European League. Yeah, and like half of it was in Germany. Yeah, should come. Yeah, some PR guys got to go over I think Chris King let have done. Um, Jason Walls did I think? And so did um. Uh. Mike chasin Off who's now with

the forty niners. Yeah, he's been there a little while. Now. This is the content people came for us talking about former Buccaneers. I'm just saying, you know, it's it's something to think about. Listen. Our listeners in Germany are very very exciting. We do have them. I mean that one Dylan guy has emailed us like three times. So there. We're just returning to love R and I've covered everything on my list. Jeff, I'm good. You don't ever bring a list that's not I don't have to. I have you. Yeah,

you just you're my foil. I throw it to throw it up to you and you knock it out the park. That's not what the foil is, but those two different things. Okay, so we don't have a guest. We explained why earlier, so rewind if you didn't hear that part. Um, so we'll go right. We don't just have a break, We'll just go right into the questions. Um. This first one, fittingly enough, is from a fan in the UK name Lee Tires. He's from Bournemouth, UK. I bet I'm pronounced

that the same month when the spelled mouth. Good morning from the UK salty ones. I'm back into work today and feeling tired after traveling to Tottenham yesterday to watch the Falcons, and jest, we have been there, We have been there. That stadium and that locker room were way cool, way there, and the fact that that stadium looked like it was just wedged into a neighborhood was weird but cool. I don't know. I was trying to figure out at

the time, like where's everybody park? Yeah they don't, Well there was parking garage. It's like a three decker. Whilst it was amazing to see the NFL live again after two years, it brought back a lot of bad memories from the Bucks game the Panthers at Tottenham. Yeah, because I think we turned the ball over like seven we did and still had a chance to Well, I mean, it felt like we were coming back, and then I think it was um Bobo Bobo what's his name, the

receiver from Florida State. Oh, he muffed a punt and then like that kind of killed the comeback. It was Bobo bubb Um. I think real first name was Jesus if I remember correctly. Uh, since seeing the Bucks play live in person for the first time was an amazing experience, but the depression of walking back to the car amongst rejoicing Panthers fans was an agonizing experience. He's really feeling

the emotions it. Maybe want to ask the question, what have been some of your lowest points during your Bucks fandom? Not the most positive questions, I know, but we've all been there. Keep up the great work, Lee Tires from bournem with the UK. So I mean, well, well, yeah, I mean we we've been. Uh, we've been. We've been all sunshine and rainbows for most of this podcast. So we can bring it down Olympics, go ahead. My lowest point was the championship game, Okay, and that's St. Louis. Um,

No one gave the Buccaneers a chance to win. We were playing that we were facing the greatest show on Turfy. Yeah, and it was a combined score of eleven to six was the final school was the actual score, not a combined Scently, Ricky Pearl, I think I think we're required to call him Ricky freaking Pearl. I mean, but but not really that. But it starts with an F and has a K and in an a most perfect throw. But um where we ended up having the bird of

manual rule got screwed on that one. Frankly, I would say that it was the hardest loss I had because so close to going to the super Bowl. Everything you say makes sense there. But I have to tell you I just don't have really negative feelings and associated with that, Like I don't feel bad when I think about that game. I guess it's because, like you said, we're supposed to get rolled. They were scoring like thirty two points a game.

They only had what was five points, two of them on a safety when the ball was snapped over the quarterback's head. They only have five points for like three and two thirds quarters. Our defense completely dominated. That wasn't how this game was supposed to go. And if you remember the next year when we played him here on Monday Night Football in December, it was the shooting and we won that one. They won the low scoring defensive struggle.

We won the shoot up anyway, So with cheers, well, I would say the worst season, the one that felt the worst was two thousand and eleven, which was Raheem's last year. Oh after we started out four and two and went so we've been ten and we've been ten and six a year before. The race to ten in two thousand ten didn't make them playoffs but close. So you you start out four and two in two thousand

and eleven, you feel, okay, we've turned the corner. Playoff contenter won one game the rest of the way and down the stretch, I think we we lost ten in a row. Well, it couldn't be ten, because if we were four and four and we lost ten in a row, No, we won one more game because we finished five and eleven. I or maybe I'm wrong, yeah, because that'd be sixteen or four and two when we went to London and then lost ten in a row, and each one seemed

to get worse than the last. It was the only time, I mean, we go into every game and you had no feeling whatsoever that you had a chance to win that game. I remember feeling that way, specifically going up to Jacksonville, and I think we we scored right away. They got up to fourteen the league and the Tennessee and the last week killed us. It was the only time I've ever felt like the team. And I'm fortunate in saying this because there's no players from the team left.

It's the only time I've ever felt like the team, you know how the teams people say that team has just given up. The only time I ever felt well, you're saying it nicely. A lot of times people say the team quit on the head coach, and it did feel like they quit that season, like there just was no they didn't care. And I don't know that that's true, but that's what we right. And there were some good players on the team and I'm not trying to integrate them,

but that was the feel. Yeah, yeah, no, I would say that that maybe that Okay, I'm switching your answer. No, no, no, no, no, I'm thinking about what you're saying, and I'm going back to that. I guess maybe uh as bad as I felt about that. UM, I don't know. I just there's I have mixed emotions about that season. So but I

just went with one game. So well, yeah, if I were going to do one game would be the Monday night Indian Apples game in two thousand three where I actually said to the PR person sitting next to me, don't worry about it, Tony, there's no way we can lose this game because we were up by three touchdowns with five minutes ago or something like, there's no way we can lose this games. And then they came back, Peyton manning the Simeon Rice leafing Fenerly and on and

on and on. Well, we have experienced lots of losses, but but one that one still hurts. I think. Uh. If I had to go with another laws uh loss would would have been UM in Philadelphia, Uh, Tony's last year, last playoff game, that one was. It was a bad loss, and then he was released and then say which will

about what happened the next year. But and whether you're a big Dungee fan or not, it did not feel good when done and I'm sure I'm saying it probably did not even feel good for the Glaziers who made the decision. Sure, no, there was a decision that worked out, and now both Tony now Tony Dungee's isn't our ring of honor and he's a Hall of Famer and he

went on. So it's all great, it's all. But I will say that game, that game, because that was the game we played the Eagles the last game of the year here and it was meaningless and is meaningless, and then we went up there to play and yes, um, that game sucked. Um. You know, from a personal standpoint, I would say, uh, seven, about seven years into my career here, I was getting a little tired of it

because I was in PR. And I've learned over that period that I liked working for an NFL team, but I didn't absolutely love my job as a PR guy. And the guys we have now they love their job and they're great at it. Um. I don't think I was great as a PR person. I was fine, but I don't think it was great. The part I liked about it I was writing. When I wrote programs. Here's

how I became an NFL PR guy. It's all because when I went to college at Northwestern, and I had a single mom, and it wasn't a lot of we didn't have a lot of money, and I had every used form of financially known to match grants and scholarships, and so one of them was work study. I had to work, which a lot of kids do that doesn't saying this is one of the things I did some of the jobs, and and these are good sometimes because

you can study. Some of the jobs would be just like you're the security guy in the lobby of this dorm or something. But the reason I'm yar now is because in the initial questionnaire for work for getting a work selly job, they ask you things like what are your interests? And I had sports on there and I had writing on there, and so they sent me to sports Information, which is like a PR department for our college.

So I worked for four years of sports information. Even then, though that didn't make me think I'm gonna work in the NFL. It's just that one day at the office sports Information in Northwestern, there was a flyer on the bolton board that said people from the Kansasie Chiefs were looking to interview anybody was interested in being an intern, and they were going to be in Chicago. They usually got their interns from around their area. They were going

to Notre Dame in Northwestern. So I ended up applying and got that job, and that's how I got in the NFL, and then I got the Bucks next year blah blah blah. So it's not like I went to college thinking I want to be a sports PR guy. It was a fun job. It was fine. I don't think I was great at it. Like I said, I was competent. So when the website happened, I got the transition into that and that probably saved my career because I can tell you about seven years and I was

just not enjoying NFL, probably wouldn't enjoy any well. You also you were in seven years of losing too, No, but that was had turned the corner a little bit. Yeah, so you had four years, four years, Yeah, I had five and ninety six was losing year but around Yeah, so that, yes, it's kind of a low point. And also the lockout eleven, Oh I forgot about. Those were

kind of scary times. Yeah, the lockout was very, very scary because uh yeah, and owners had to adjust and one thing that happened here was they we were given one week of unpaid leave, if you remember, but they said at the time, if this gets resolved and the season starts on time, we're gonna make that whole. And that's what happened. And then they all paid us for that week, and so we ended up getting an ext

week of vacation. We were we were very fortunate before we're a very fortunate team because they did not reduce staff, they didn't delay people off, and they didn't lay people off. They didn't. It was it was a matter of we got to a point where and I think it was like in June that they said, hey, yeah we need you need to get furloughed for a week. You know, don't come in, don't work. You weren't allowed you know, the computers, all of that, no emails, nothing, you weren't

allowed to do anything. And they did, like you said, they made it whole. Yeah, So that was that offseason felt low because you just were really uncertain about what was gonna happen. Not like I thought that the NFL is gonna go away, but you could miss the season other sports have and that would have at some point lead to consequences on the staff. It just would have had to oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, what do you need a writer for the website for if there's nothing

to write about it? Well, I can't say I didn't wind a hard kind of hard to be director of broadcasting when you don't have any game broadcast. Growing it out there all right? Next question? Okay, hey Scott. The entry before I say this, I screwed up because I had a question I really wanted to read here, and it was it was basically a follow up to some

question that we had answered. And I think it was the guy in Tennessee and he said they were going on he was going on a road trip with his wife, and he convinced her because he was a couple of podcasts behind, and he convinced her to listen to it. I'm gonna have to bring this question the next time

to do with justice. But he convinced her to listen to it in the car, and we kept talking about Sean Murphy bunting, so she kept hearing the word bunting, and she goes, well, I thought this was a football podcast. Why do they keep talking about baseball? And then there was something else at the end. That sounded like baseball too, so I think we were talking about pitching. We said

something about pitching or something on the pitch. I don't know what it was, but I'm just thinking, this poor woman, this guy's his wife listened to our Podkast talk about talk about my wife doesn't even listen to talk about, you know, being a team player. Wow, Well she's trapped in the cars. Maybe she's a fan. Now, well, maybe he was driving her someplace. I'll bring the actual email next time so we can get the scoop deets the

deets if you will very good. You know, it's a dumb abbreviation that everybody's using these days, no fits to describe outfits, because every day every team now puts the pictures of their players, like Leaven getting on the plane and walking to the stadium, and some of them have neat outfits on. But everybody, everybody on Twitter calls him fits.

Now it's it's it's annoying anyway. The injury bug seems to be firmly read to the grumpy old man Tom Brady wearing his hat backwords today, by the way, I know, is he allowed? Is he can you at age? He did? I mean, who was gonna. I will say this, he pulled it off. Not mostly most forty four year olds cannot. I mean, I think he had the hoodie, but with the sleeves cut off. He The only time I used to wear a hat backwards, well I don't really wear hats, but when I did when I wore a hat backwards

is when I was a catcher. That's the only time I wore a hat backwards. All right. In the off season, we all packed injuries as the biggest obstacle obstacle to the Bucks, repeating that's true. I was asked that question several times, and that's what I said. Although the IR rules are more favorable now, the seventeen game slate still makes it a war of attrition. True. Following David's injury, Lavante David, it got me thinking which Super Bowl champ

most suffered in the repeat chances due to injuries. For what it's worth, I think the two thousand fifteen Patriots have to be up there, with a whopping nineteen players on ire, plenty of whom were key players. So he's already got kind of a sure. They were still only two point conversion away from tying Denver in the a f C Championship games. So there's always hope. Well, I don't. I haven't lost any hope about our season. Which other teams do you think also deserves some special mentioned? Did

any of them overcome the bug to repeat? I The only thing I could come up with when I first heard this question off the top of my head is the teams that have won with a backup quarterback when their QB got hurt, like late in the season or earlier in the playoffs, like Jeff Hostetler for Christian the Giants goes down for the Rana at the beginning of the year. But yeah, Kurt Warner out of the former League stocking and out of the European League. It was

with the Packers for a while. Um, you know there was the Doug Lims. Doug Limps started because who was hurt? Who Wilson Tisman? Was it? Their quarterback was hurt? That's why Doug started in the Super Bowl. Um, I think that didn't the Dolphins way back in the seventies, Earl Morrel he did, or Brian for not Brian Greasy, Bob Greacey. But I had to look it up because I couldn't think off the top of my head, and he's talking

about teams that repeated. I don't know. I didn't really get that answer, but I did find out that the two thousand three New England Patriots set a record at the time with forty two different players to start for them that season because of all the injuries. And then the next year they even if you may recall, remember Troy Brown, the receiver, they had so many injuries that they converted him, well, they didn't convert him, and he still played receiver too. They may to a cornerback, he

played corner. He played nickel corner too. I don't know if you remember that. It was I remember just being amazed by that back at the time. And then there's several articles about how the two thousand Tin Packers the last Packer team to win the Super Bowl, UM had, so I did. I read up about that, and they

did have a ton of injuries, like they had. They lost ninety one games by starters due to injuries, and they had eleven people on no I think they had sixteen people on injury reserve, eleven and more defensive players and a lot of them key guys, and they just overcame it all like Mike Neil and Morgan Burnett and Nick Barnett. They just had a lot of guys out. So there's your answer to that question. I hope that helps Nick. Did we have one question about our low

moments and one about people getting hurt? Happy people over there? Greetings and salutations, salty dogs. I sometimes watched the weekly press conferences on the site, and it seems like guys, it seems like guys like Byron leftwich In, Tom and Mike Evans are often asked if they think the offense can even get better. That's funny because that actually happened today. Um, it's to go to question and he as he says, I remember this struck me as right when I first

read this. These questions usually come after a good game by the offense, not a bad game, which is it's almost like, like I said before, we're greedy. That's what he says. Well, that's why I'm saying it. It's like, it's not it's no longer we are now at a point. It's no longer that yea, the team won, it's now how many points did you win by? We scored had five fifty eight yards of can you get any better? Had over four hundred passing, over a hundred rushing, eight

eleven third dunk versions, thirty three first downs. Like I mentioned, that was a record for for us for a non overtime game. So, I mean, I think that's his point. And I've always thought they seemed a little greedy. That's why I said that, Hey, let's enjoy what we have right now, because I've been a Bucks fan for a long time and this is the best offense I've ever got to root for. Spoke undeniably true, not even an argument. I'm with you anyway, Guys, do you think there are ways?

Do they think there are ways in which the offense can get better? If we are going to be greedy here? Thanks for your timing Inside Greg Hill, he says he's formerly of clear Water. I guess, I mean he didn't say where he's from. That. Well, the only way you could get better was how many possessions do you have in a game? Usually about usually between ten and twelve? Okay, So and unless you score a touchdown every single possession, then there's there's always room to get better. It's not

really very realistic though, I understand that. But because I doubt a team has ever scored him. Well, it's it's like it's like that Chargers Cleveland game, Brown's game. I mean, you score over forty points and you lose. They scored over forty points and didn't commit a turnover. Yes, I think I heard. That's like one of the few times it's ever happened. Crazy they score for forty, don't so? So do you look at that team and go there three and two right now? I believe the Browns are

You're going to go, oh yeah, though I don't. I mean they have a good defense, sure, I'm just yeah, I mean there, but there are spots, there are little spots. I mean it is greedy to use for this, but you're there's never a perfect game. Well, we've always Bruce has said consistently since he's got here that he wants to run the ball and more and have a more balanced office, and we've rarely gotten to that. Some of

that is just because it is what it is. This team is so good at passing, you're not gonna stop throwing fourty times a game. But in these last couple of games, we've thrown the ball forty plus times but also gotten over a hundred yards rushing, which leads to these incredible stats and and point tolls, which is what matters. Of course, it's been better, it could be better. We're still only getting three point ninety yards for carry, which is twenty two in the league, so you can see

how that can be better. It's been better the last two weeks, but it needs to stay that way. Um, I think we could get more out of our tight ends, to be honest with you, and and obviously we got a lot at the beginning to hear from Gronk, but Gron's been out. O J and Kama played fine, but we really haven't targeted them a ton. I feel like we could get more out of that. I feel like we could hit more deep shots, and we tried a ton in that game and we didn't hit him a

set for the one to Mike. But still we're able to move the ball in other shirts right, and our third downs we're actually up to like fifth in the league and third down conversion which is obviously very good. But it's been a bit up and down, and we saw what can happen when it's really up against Miami, we're basically unstoppable because they couldn't get us off the field.

And they're done. If we if we're converting sixty plus percent of our third downs, I don't think anybody is beating us, honestly, and we have done that a couple of times. But there have also been games where we've had trouble on third downs inexplicably really just execution. So you could see little areas where it could get better. But I think we would happen though. Is would just be a little bit of a give and take, because I'm not saying we're gonna have We've only had more

than five fifty yards in game three times a team history. Okay, so you're not gonna get five and fifty units. Even you can get better with the stats, maybe getting worse. That was a good tweet you put out. I used that. Which one was the one about uh we had five hundred eighty eight yards or something that was the most ever and we were at four or we were at five anything like that. Yeah, we didn't get much because of the time right now we got the five, but

it was a great It was a great piece of information. Yeah, so, um, there are ways that can get better, but I don't think. I think it'd probably just be more efficient. I don't think we're gonna score forty five points game, but we might come out of a game feeling like we did even better on offense because we didn't miss opportunities. Every game we've had good game Byron and and and Bruce Arians have said things like, you know we left stuff out there? Sure so yeah, all right, all right, Wow,

you're not gonna believe how long we went today. Right now, you're at an hour and twenty count without a guess. That's not efficient right there. That is a lack of efficient. Not all of our drives you were on a roll to just say that on but not all of our dress Yes, yes, Well, if you done to this podcast looking for classics, you've got a dandy one this time around, wings, nachos, and Angus Burger's beer. Put them all together and you've

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