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the Salty Dogs Podcast. I am Scott Smith jeffer High and we're the Salty Dogs. We are and what we do mostly is talk about Buccaneers football, although Jeff sometimes leads us off on t I know, and I'm gonna try really hard this episode. I like the day. Okay, focus, see if you can. First thing, I want you to do Rathabad before we forget. Last week, we had a question from a Stephen Larson in Texas. I thought it
was San Diego. It was Amario Amorio and he was trying he wants to listen to the games on the radio, and we didn't really have a great solution for him. But since then you have realized there's something you can tell him. Yeah, I should have. I forgot about it afterwards driving home, I was like, oh, game pass. If you go to NFL dot com, you can find game pass and I think it's a month and you can
get any broadcast you want, um in the NFL. So if you have a favorite team and you don't live in the area that you can pick it up off the internet. You can get it on gam game Pass, off of NFL Network or whether it's NFL dot com. And it's obvious if you punch up there you'll see it. It helps you out. Okay. So I'm actually gonna let Mr Larson know an email here Casey doesn't catch it to listen in, so we can get that. Sure. Um.
So that's that's you know, that's a good thing. Okay. So, and that would explain why I can't just run mine, so everybody could get it because of that, because it's an NFL big deal, yes, um. And and starting off with that is actually good thematically here because this week we are not going to have a guest as a player, because, as I noted, last week, we got a ton of emails and we couldn't answer them all, but we promised
we would. And since I've gotten more, and I just don't think there's any way we can hold on, you know, uphold our promise unless we spend one episode just nailing a lot of these. So this is going to be the special mail back episode. This is all about you, not you them. I know you weren't pointing at me when you said that. You and I, Jeff will still do a little bit of talking here about the Bills game, about the upcoming Saints scheme, and other things that have happened.
But then we'll get to we'll get just straight to your questions for a good portion of this show. Sounds like a plan. Also, the other thing I wanted to start with, Jeff is uh covid. Okay, before you go there. Oh yeah, you're saying, let's do something positive here. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. If you're thinking about wings and you're thinking about beer, or you think about beer first and then wings, nobody combines them like befo Brady's.
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last Sunday, the Bills game. You know, we're by the time we're done with it, it's in the evening Star. So I'm actually sitting in a in a booth trying to write the postgame report and I get a text on my phone, which you know, I'm not thrilled about because I'm trying to concentrate, but it's from my wife, and true story. It was thinking about going to get some wings from Beefs. Do you want anything? You said? You said, I know. Actually it didn't feel like wings,
so I got a primary sandwich. Was yeah, but still you got something from Beefs. I know. And I'm not making this up to pander tour sponsors. That actually happened. That's the true story. And the booth you were in where the visiting coaches booth, Yeah, because when they clear out, I go in there and take it over so I can have quiet. They year out quickly, and they probably cleared out even more quickly this time in frustration. I was going to say that a big story this week
in the NFL is COVID. It certainly and probably because we had this you know, we've been having holidays, and um, two weeks after Thanksgiving, all of a sudden cases are rising. Washington has something like twenty one guys on their list. Now Cleveland I think maybe has eighteen. Can you imagine having to deal with that knocking on? Well, so far it's going well on here. And one thing Bruce arians said earlier this week is well, it's warm down here,
so we're outside a lot more. We're not cooped up together. Well that makes sense, it does, and if you do, I mean even Thanksgiving it was nice. So if you we're going to get together, a lot of times you are outside, which makes a big, big difference. Um, but I liked what he said about that. That's true. Um, Unfortunately, Uh, the cases are going up, and um, it's scary because it's worse for the NFL this year or than it was last night. And that's simply because things are open
where last year it wasn't. Because of the vaccine. Yeah, but uh, and that's the problem because most of these guys who get these COVID cases don't really have bad symptoms. But that's because it's the game, and that's because of having the vaccine. They have to miss a game and so that they don't um pass it on to everybody else. But I just hope that this season doesn't come down to which team has the fewest. Nobody. Nobody wants that. No,
nobody wants to see the competition drop down. Nobody. You know, it's amazing. I can't remember a season with so many exciting games on the prime time, whether it's a Sunday night game, a Monday night game, a Thursday night um, just ours was we weren't. Yeah, but we were a late game. We were a prime time game. And by the time when because we went to overtime, we were the only game on. So if you were over yeah, if you were going to sixty minutes, you weren't getting it.
You were you were getting the bucks in the bills. Yes, and it into it in just dramatic fashion, which was awesome. It wasn't awesome how we got there blowing a twenty four to three halftime lead. But I see, I don't I don't necessarily know if you're I don't like the
term you're blowing it. I think, well, I just think they got they started to get it together, yes, but we had many opportunities to put them away and we did just one or two plays here, and they're like a completion on third down over the middle to a wide receiver, a wide open wide receiver. There were all kinds of opportunities for us to put the way we blew our chances to put it. But I will say this, at halftime, we asked Bruce arians what do you need to do in the second half, and he said, we
need to play. There's thirty minutes left in this game. It's far from over and yeah, And when he said it, I was saying, well, it's three isn't that. They're nice thing to say, But I don't think it was true. I don't think that Errands and his staff are guilty of not keeping the foote the gas pedal in those situations. I think they're more Bruce, for particulars, more than happy to be aggressive, yeah and try to get more points
and not try to sit on the lead. It's just they didn't execute, and it was It got really scary to the point of man, I really feel like we should win this game. We have four and eight yards
of offense by the end. Crazy huh and uh, And it just hast to come down to that one play well, but the thing too is is that as as mad as people were about the defense giving up so much in the second half, they made they made the key stop when they needed to make made two of them and the one at the goal line, and then to make sure that it was just a tie and we weren't three points down by four with twenty seconds left, and then the one because Buffalo won the coin flip
and it had they scored a touchdown game Tom never gets a touch See, I still don't like that. I I know, I know in the playoffs, everyone gets the ball once they change during for the playoffs. Did you know that you're looking at me like I don't know what? I don't know that, and I also don't know that that's right? Okay, So while you try to prove yourself right, this is our Annuel, this is our weekly exercise, and
you were about I think on these right. Um, so I will start talking about I'm gonna put the fifty eight yard game winner on hold for a second. Other than that, your favorite things from the game. Since you're looking up something, I'll go first. Um, Mike's touchdown catch. Mike Evans touchdown cat. That was pretty That was the thing of beauty because you could see what happened, you know, after the play, you could you could tell what happened.
Um Brady saw where Mike was and where the defender was and purposely through it high and hard because like, I can't, I have to throw it high to get over the defender. But I know that there's a chance that Mike Evans will be able to go up and
get this ball. And I mean he's up there with his fingertips snatch that ball with his fingertips, Jeff, it was pulling it down and like holding it in his hands, not tucking it, just holding his hands on his chest because he was going to land on his back, which he did, and he landed on his back, and the bald and wiggle at all he held on. So it was it was Mike's had an awful lot of touchdowns and that may not be the prettiest one ever that he's had, but it was. It was up there. Okay.
Overtime rules for the NFL postseason games, unlike regular season games, what is the source operations dot NFL dot com. Unlike regular season games, postseason games cannot end in a tie. So the overtime knew that changed slightly. For the playoffs, they changed slightly. If the score is tied at the end of what we know that Okay, let's see what is it say to each team gets three times out If there's nothing you said that each team Like, yeah,
I'm not that's not the sentence I want. He thought I was gonna say, each team gets the ball no matter why. Yeah they I don't think so, Joe, i'd the difference is that you have to keep playing over times because you can't end it a tie. Right. Maybe that's maybe that, but it's still the same thing. If you they's unfair. I still that that they did. They made it fairer than it used to be, right because it used to be first score no matter what. It
was sudden deaths as they like to call it. Now you can't just go down there and get to get a thirty yard drive and kick a field goal. The only way you can win on the first drive is if you score touchdown, but still the first The team that wins the coin toss obviously has a much better chance of being the first one to score a touchdown.
So I agree with you, it's not fair. I'm not sure what the perfect solution is I personally kind of like the the college method, but I know a lot of people who do not and don't don't think it's good. With the NFL. You can probably stop looking because the answer you're looking for it's not in there. For whatever reason, I thought that was that that was maybe it was a lot of things that maybe maybe it was them, Maybe it was a competition committee they were talking about.
Maybe that could be too. That could be true, but I don't know why. If you if you found a way that you felt was more equitable, why wouldn't you just use it in the postseason and not in the regular season as well? There's that to see. This is the kind of tangents that I was talking about. It's just funded, it's just fun stuff, all right. But I was trying to do favorite things from the game. I gave you one Mike's catch, and I also Carlton Davis was the guy on the spot on both of those
two stops that we talked about. He didn't technically have a past defense on either one, but where he was his presence made it difficult for the quarterback to get the ball to receiver because the coverage was so good it was awesome. It was us. My favorite thing was was zach Or running to get the ball, not he's not a ball boy. Everyone kept calling him a ball boy in the video and if he's not a ball boy. Watched the film session videos by Ronde every week. They're
very good. Team operations coordinator of Team Operations works with Tim's Rock who is director of Team Operations. They do a lot of travel stuff. They handle a lot of stuff. Um, what I liked about the play was that was his job to get the seven hundred ball, and he did
the one job he was supposed to have. He didn't get caught up in the moment, didn't get it caught up in the excite to make a little bit of a move around Joe I think Joey Yeah, and then and uh right right past BP didn't didn't you know, didn't touch him nothing, and the ball was still spin and he picked it up on the spin. If you
if you don't know what we're talking about. Tom Brady has been breaking a lot of records this year, and uh that means that every time he breaks a record, somebody wants They wanted to get him the ball for that moment, and this was the touchdown that won the game was the seven hundred of his career if you count the playoffs, obviously the only guy ever to do that.
People like those big round numbers, and so the seven hundred ball was important, and we went in the game knowing how many he needed to get there, and since he already I believe had one earlier in the game, Um, everybody knew on the sideline that the next one was of an hundred, and so I don't know who all four people were, but but Zack and Tim Gerocki were two of the four that posted themselves up in the in the two end zones so that they were ready
to come running in and grab the ball. And the reason and the reason for that is that they didn't want to go through what happened before, where Tim Gerocki had to go to a fan talk to him negotiate to get the ball back. So after Mike and gave away his record touchdown, so no, no, it was a Tom Brady ball. He gave away a ton Tom Brady hit, Like I think it's when Tom Brady got his six hundred regular season touchdown earlier this year. Are you still
trying to prove yourself fright on. Don't know you were talking about COVID before. There's new rules for the NFL just came just came out just now, just right now. Well, let's we can talk about that. Tell me right now as we begin immediately, effective at the conclusion of week fifteen games daily testing. Uh, people in Tier one and Tier two are prohibited to be held outdoors or in
the practice buzz bubble. Let's see all meetings. All meetings must be conducted virtually indoor masking all players even if you can be outside. Um, unless they are outdoors or in a practice bubble, which we're lucky. We we we have a great indoor practice facility. Indoor masking. All players and staff must wear masks when indoors, including in the weight room, regardless of vaccination status. I think that's right. I'm glad they're doing that, but it's a bummer because
I've gotten used to nutwaring masks round. Yeah, mass are not required outdoors or during practice, UM weight room. No more than fifteen players meal rooms, so this will start on Tuesday. Yeah, staff and players will not be permitted to eat together, regardless of arius. But we don't do that anymore. Team travel Um. All tier players will be prohibited from visiting, receiving visitors at the team hotel, or going out to dinner. We were already doing the going out.
Yeah yeah. Uh. Tier one, Tier two, and Tier three staff members are going to be subject. Um let's see, what do we see it? We are not allowed to gather outside with other tier with other tiers because that would be a big loophole. Um. Let's see, I'm just looking through some of this real quick. Uh. Tier one and tier staff. You can't attend indoor nightclubs into our indoor bars with more than ten people. Yeah, um, no attending indoor. So pretty much everything that was going on
last year, it's dropped back then. Um, and then how much more you can I don't want to talk about COVID um. Uh, let's see, all right. I think that's enough, mat chef. I think we have to get tested every day. Okay, let's talk about it later. A right, Can we move on to football. You're irritating me at this point because you're just kind of droning on about these new COVID rules and and uh, you know, we get the gist. It's becoming more restrictive. Said, can we talk about football
goes back to last year. Cool football football it is. Did you realize that the Bills did not hand the ball off to a running back in the entire first half? And yes, I didn't realize that. I didn't realize that at the time. And yet somehow they finished the game with a hundred seventy three rushing yards of nine point one yours precry well. They started to run in the second half. End. They also have a quarterback that has pretty light on his feet, yeah, well and strong and
powerful yeah he um. That was something else. And it's it's a bit of a concern considering that the next quarterback we have to face is another guy who likes to run and it is good at it and it's hard to tackle. Say some hill, right, it is? It is? I don't know. You know, last last week I made a comment about Josh Allen and I was saying how people were on him and everything we got the guy. I have to tell you, he's a gamer. If if I were to if I were to pick up on
that thread. There. The way I remember this conversation, Jeff, was that you said that everybody was on Josh Allen and for having a subpar year, and I said, I thought he was still having a pretty darn good year. You were right, And then he goes and run throws for over three hundred yards, runs for over one hundred yards. He's only the fourth quarterback ever to do that in the game, and the others were Cam Newton and Lamar
Jackson and Russell Wilson. So um, but I just thought that, I'll tell you that I said it on your radio broadcast when I got interviewed before the game, I thought, and I had heard the guy they had on from the Bills, um, you know, because they always interview a guy from that covers the other team right before they interview me. And I caught the end of it and he just as I was saying, to UM, to your guys,
he knows what he's talking about. I can't remember the guy's name, j I think it was he obviously, as a guy covering the Bills every day, knows what he's talking about and knows way more about the Bills and I do. And it was a lot of very like not positive stuff. And of course they were seven and five and now they're seven and six, and they went thirteen and three last year, so they had really high
hopes for this year. But I'm telling I'm like, take along, take a you know, zoom out and take a bigger picture. Look here, guys, because this team came into that game leading the NFL not only in points differential, but in yard is differential. And they still had an awesome quarterback that even if he wasn't playing as well as he did last year, uh, I was still playing very well.
I'm like, I don't you know that their guy was didn't think that that they would finish within ten points of us, And and I'm telling these guys, I'm like, I think this is gonna be a much tougher game than you than people are thinking. And then at halftime, I'm like, wow, I got that one wrong because it was three and we were just almost text you, I almost said told you. But to my great disappointment, I was proven correct. That was that was a very good game.
It was an entertaining games, very entertaining game at a packed house. It was just jam all over the place. But it we haven't had to feel this very much. I don't think in in the Tom Brady era, but remember how we'd have games were just stuff. I almost said a word that was not as stuff. Uh that there's stuff seemed inevitable, like we've got a ten point leave, but all of a sudden, we can't stop. You can't
get a stop on there. That's the way it felt during the majority of that fourth quarter after with like nine mints left, after we failed to First of all, we failed to capitalize on the interception by Sherman before halftime, and then we failed to capitalize on I think something, did they go for it on fourth down or something early in the third quarter, and so we had great
field position and once again failed to capitalize. And I'm starting to think and that was where you had talked about where they could have put the game away a couple of times really, but yeah, they could have put the game away and they just couldn't do it. Um, I'm not really complaining because of the bucks are ten and three and they did win the game. But I don't know, So let's get in It mean, when you win games now, it's now, it's how you were here.
I am complaining. We're not too long ago. We were just happy to win a game. Yes, that was a valid criticism, even if it's not mintace criticism. Criticism is valid. But that's the beauty about sports. There's always improvement. And I'm the one. I'm the guy who's said on this podcast several times that I don't think fans realize the extent to which players and coaches do not care one bit how the wind happened. They don't care if you think it was an ugly win or if you almost
blew it. They won. That's all they care about. I'm telling you no style points. They don't. They don't care that you think your opponent, the opponent you played that week, was terrible, or they had injuries. None of that matters. None of it. So I shouldn't be complaining about how this one came about. And I'm not really meaning to complain. I'm just explaining the feelings that I was having as the lead was evaporating and it just seemed inevitable. Uh.
But all's well, that ends well, So let's talk about overtime. Okay, obviously we get the three and that's all. But then their punter blast, like a sixty five yard punt that was an incredible went out of bounds at the six. Uh. It was like, and you're thinking, there's not a lot of ninety plus yard drives in the NFL, because to go that far unless you have some really big play involved. The good news is you didn't have to go that far, because that's a good point and that's what the books
were going for it. Yeah. Um, but it's hard to go that far. And you start thinking in in regulation like, okay, we'll try, um, but at least if we can make some field position difference before we pointed away, Um, then at least we've made a difference. But in a ten minute overtime and you're the second drive, there's already probably down to like eight minutes. At this point, you're probably if you're punting, you're probably not getting the ball back. No, And so you got one shot at this And I
was thinking, I don't want to tie. No, I just don't want to tie. Yeah. I don't either, because because it doesn't help you, it helps you more than the loss. Yeah, but you don't want I don't want to tie. And so we didn't. The Bucks did not have to end up in a tie. Um. We got a very helpful, uh defensive pastor of ference penalty that was drawn by
Mike Evans. Right now a lot of people are arguing about all the a lot of people who happened to have a lot of Buffalo beer, who happened who happened to live in Western New York I might have some red blue in the have a feeling that well there, I will say I will say this there. They are called the Buffalo Mafia, and um they did do um
a fund raiser. They've done this before, by the way. Yeah, but they still raise forty dollars for the insight impaired um as as sort of a joke on like the rec but I but but at least they're doing something like the organization that got the money's like, wow, we recognize that referees do not have vision problems. We appreciate the money. Yeah, we'll cash that check. I'm not really even gonna get I gonna slack on bills because we're not in their position and now, and it's hard to
be objective. They're having a hard go because they thought that the New England Patriots, they finally got their nemesis taken care of. They're gonna they're back, and they're back. He just and they have to go play them again. Not only are they back, but it's possible that they also have quickly found their next quarterback for the next long period of time. And that's gotta that's gotta stick in the cross if any fan and teams in that division, it's like the PA does that happen. It's like the
Packers moving directly from Brett Farvedon Rogers. I've been in the NFL Jeff for thirty seasons now, and the Packers have had one of the best quarterbacks in the league for every single one of them. That's ridiculous, isn't it. So we get to over time, we get close to midfield, still not in field goal range, that's for sure, and you're facing a third and three and that's when the
faithful play happened. Yeah. Uh, it's a fifty eight yard touchdown catch and run by Brashad Perryman, who was targeted for the very first time on that play in the whole game. And he wasn't on the team a few weeks ago. Yeah, but like a month ago, like we signed into the practice squad, immediately elevated him for a couple of games because we were short arm receivers, and then we just signed him to the regular season roster. And this you know, we're familiar with Brashod Permis two
thousand nineteen. We didn't have Tom Bray back then, but he was was with and he made an interesting comment coming into the locker room. He said he could feel the difference of guys that were here in two thousand nine. How they I don't necessarily know if it's carried themselves or how they felt, but he said he could feel the different energy in the locker room, which I would the break in between, and so he had a clean break, so we could sort of compare the two. So here's
the play. The Bucks have um Breshad Perryman and Uh Brashad. Perryman is one of the receivers over to the left, as is Chris Godwin, and Rob Gronkowski is on the end of the line on that side, and Mike Evans is alone. So it's it's kind of like what you'd call three by one him UH with Mike Evans alone at the top, and then Leonard Fournette stays in the
backfield blocks. I won't get into all the route, but but the point is that they were in manned man at the snap and Godwin went in slight motion to go just inside Perryman, who had been in the slot, and you see the two corners switch who they're covering, and the corner that's now covering Perriman is like eight yards off, and so when Perriman's route is an immediate, you know, kind of shallow a cross, that guy can't
make up the difference. And not only does he not close the ground, but when Mike Evans, they called it a metrod. I guess when Mike Evans comes running across the field in the opposite direction, the corner that was supposed to be covering Breshad Perryman, for some reason decides to join another guy who's already covering, and now they got double coverage on Mike, who was the intended receiver
on the first bread on the play. Brashad Perryman suddenly doesn't have a corner with him, and so he's running across the face of a linebacker Tremaine Edmonds, who is the only guy in the middle. And Edmonds, who actually was taking a step towards Perryman when he realizes that he has to cover him, now has to turn and try to run with Perriman. And Edmunds is a very very fast for a big linebacker, but He's not as fast as super so the plate totally worked, although that
was not really its original intention. Pairman gets a couple of steps on him. Brady, who has been looking over the right because he's got three receivers on that side of the field. He says he saw it out of the corner of his eyes. So he catches Pairman moving across the middle and really kind of last second switches, gets off a wobbly pass. To be honest with you,
but I was right on target. Just a last minute switching decision when he saw that, and then obviously Pairman catches it and there's nobody there and he runs for the touchdown. It was awesome because Pairman was the last read on that play. According to Byron Leftwich, Yeah, he mentioned that today. Yeah, and we talked about that outside. It's it's crazy that as like I said, how do you how do you get to that well? And what does well, what does that mean happened first to make
that possible? What does that mean that you could get to your last read that you have awesome protection? Yes, the protection was fantastic on that play. Nobody using next gen stats. I looked at it on Tuesday and four of the five people rushing the quarterback never got within like five yards of him. Ed Oliver kind of stunted around the back and was kind of closing in but not really still a couple of yards away from Brady when you got to throw off, So Brady had time
to go through all those reads. Sure a good job up front, guys, what what? Um? Well, they had a good game. Anyways, they really did all the way throughout. Donovand Smith had a great block. We have to talk about that one. Yeah, that was an awesome So this was the other huge play the game, the first touchdown, the first seven yard But learn from that. Do you want to explain that you can't go ahead? Well, first
that first of all, there were two guys pulling. I believe it was Ali Marpetton, Rang Jenson, and um they're pulling from left to right. And I'm getting some of this from watching Randal's Randay's video today, but um, which which fans can go to and look at watching There's a funny part about Randey's video to bring this around a little a bit is that he talks about Zack picking up that ball and he calls him a ball boy like but he also I love when guys do this.
He's pointing out reactions of people on the sideline while Pereman is running down and I love that. You see one shot where you can looking directly at our sideline, and the moment Pereman catches the ball and starts to turn up field, there's like five guys on the sideline who put their arm up and point towards the end zone. Like, hey, Brett Brashade, I said, I said, Brett Perriman again, Hey Brashade, run that way. Like at the moment he was confused,
which way do we go? But real quick when he first caught the ball, were you thinking, yes, we got That's what I thought I was. I was like, all right, we got a first and then all of a sudden, I'm like, oh man, And and then the second thing on that too good. Jean nailed it. The second thing I thought was, oh, please, no flags. So as he's running in the end zone, I'm looking back sure or the play originated, I'm not seen any yellow? No what what?
It was a great call. I was really happy because you know, when you have his doric plays like that, a lots going on and you don't know it's a historic player until it's over. And by the way, that's not hyperbole to say that, because that was only the second touched on the Bucks I've ever scored in an overtime. Yeah, and it was his and it was Tom Brady seven. Yeah. So and it was a huge game in our playoff quest to try to repeat his champions right. So the
cool part about it is that we nailed it. It's really cool, the call, all the way we had, everybody, everybody did their job to make sure maybe we can put it at the intro of this show. Well, what's even funnier is Tom Brady tweeted it out the call. Yes, you know, you nailed it. Oh, I'm like, yeah, So can you name the other player who's who escored an overtime touchdown for the Buccaneers? You it was? You've been you were there about seven or eight years ago. Oh gosh, Uh,
don't take too much time if you don't know. It was it Dallas Clark? Yes, was it? Good job? Trivia is not usually your hype. Not Dallas Clark against the Panthers. Josh Freeman threw it. I think it was a big game for Antonio Bryant or maybe that was a different that's different. That was oh eight, that was the that
was that Monday night. This was more like, um, I think Vincent Jackson Rest in Peace made an incredible game time touchdownk yeah, And speaking of that was very sad news today on Vincent jacks There was more news today. Well it came out on um. Yeah. They he donated his brain to science to find out and it was
ct yeah, which is uh yeah. And and interesting part is he never claimed to have had a concussion, but he was also he also played in that in the time where um, unfortunately in the time when you got hit, if you got a hit, you just had your bell runging. Ye. And then where it became a medical thing where everyone was paying attention to. So he kind of in between there. Yeah,
it's part of the transition. So you know all this talk um we got away from I was describing the Nett play and it was two guys pulled and they did a good job, and it was a stretch play and so Leonards taking the hand off, it's shotgun. He takes the handoff from in front of Brady and moves right and Ronde was was explaining that, um, they had eight men in the box. And so this is a situation where Brady would often check out of a run
because it doesn't look good. But because of where the defenders were and because he knew that our guys are gonna be pulling, he knew we were still gonna have a man advantage on the right edge, so he let the play stand the four Nette ran to his right. Then, as you do on a stretch play, you're watching your blockers, the ones on the move, and you wait until you
see a scene and you cut up through it. He did does that successfully and he should have to beat one more player, which I think was safety Jordan Ployer, but Donovan Smith, who at the staff because of what they did, actually had nobody to block, just starts. He's on the left side, the opposite side line runs down ahead of the play and is in perfect position to
block the living daylights out of Jordan's Ployer. And now Leonard for that doesn't have to beat anybody and he just has to speed his way to the end zone. And great job. Yeah, and I think that's what you know. Everyone dogs the old line when things don't go right, but you have to give credit when credits do, and they are plain. You know, you can't. You can't do this because you would need to recognize other good players
on other teams. But it would almost be cool if the the offensive line for the Pro Bowl was you voted in the team's offensive line because the Buccaneers by the numbers, uh probably have the best off by the statistics at least probably have the best offensive line in the league this year. They they lead the league and
SAX allowed for pass by lowest number. And they also, I know our running game totals aren't great, but if you go go on Football Outsiders, they're adjusted line yard stats say we have the best run blocking group too.
So but then you go, well, which guy or guys should make it troble and you can't get gredients, say well, Alex Cappa and Ryan Jenson and so'd be cool for it's just the whole the whole line got to go, except that if you're a really really good old alignment on it really big, that's why you can't do it that well, well, that's the that's the Paul Gruber story.
Never made a Pro Bowl when our ring of honor and deserved, which is totally mind boggling, Yeah boggling, I know, but you know, I know, we know how good he wants. All right, Um, anything else on this game you want to talk about? It got It was a very long game. It was Um, it was a long game. Jack Barrett was heating up again, as he has often done at
the end of seasons. I know that. You know. He had one point five sacks, but he also had five quarterback hits and seven quarterback pressures according to next Gen Stats, which I believe our single game highs for him this year. You remember how he was so dominant in the last couple of weeks of last year's playoffs that if we have that check bear running around, that's something seems to be coming along. I like it to be coming together. Yes, so we can get healthy. We got a good shot
of things. So do you want to go ahead? And we can talk about the Saints. But let's not well, it's a tough game and um, for whatever reason, we always have issues with them, except when you're in the playoffs, then it's not a problem. Yeah. This The part about this game is that it's the Saints, so you should win. But the icing on the cake is it's a T shirt hat game if you win. So they clinch in the division, and that would be great. It would be great to do it against the Saints at home. There
are the national TV. They're the hurdle that we've been trying to get over. When was the last time we won the division? Two? Seven? Okay, so haven't done that in a while. There you go, won the super Bowl without winning the division, which you would take every year. Oh yeah, but this year with the stands to be packed again, you definitely want to have as many home games as possible. As they say when they start out
the season, there are goals. The first goal is when your division division, because then you get at least one home game, and that's what we will have a shot at it. Yeah, I mean to be honest, nothing is guaranteed, right, but we can. We can clinch the division by need the Saints uh this weekend. But honestly, all we need is either one win by us or one win lost by the Saints. That's really only that's not eight outcomes. It's only seven because one of those games is US
against the Saints. But when you only need one of seven possible outcomes to occur, you can feel pretty good because probably it's gonna be closer to like six of those seven outcomes all the way you watch. But then you're talking about seeding, and this past week with Arizona losing to the Rams, the Buccaneers actually moved up to the two seeds because the Packers, Bucks and Rams are all ten and three. Packers get the tiebreaker right now because they have something like a seven and one record
in NFC play or seven and three it's better than ours. Yeah, the Bucks are and Cardinals loveally our six and three and uh, and then we get the second seed over the Cardinals at the moment based on strength of victory because there's no head to head. Uh, we have the same conference record. You can't do. The next one is common games you're recording is so teams you and the Cardinals both played. What record did you have against those teams?
At the moment, we don't have enough to qualify, but by the end of the because you have to have at least four by the end of the year, we will. And because of that lost to the Rams, which is helpful because we also lost to the Rams, um and then somebody else that Arizona lost to the the Buccaneers. If we win out, we know at worst be the number two. See, because Arizona can't catch us, We'll beat
them on common games. Yeah, and and the thing is you just win out and then you hope the Green Day loses one game because if they don't, you you can't get the first and you can't worry. You can't control what they do, but you can control what you do. You try to win all four and hope they lose at least one. Unfortunately, I think they got Baltimore next, which is like they have like two healthy players right now, and then they have Cleveland, which has the COVID issue
going on. So and I think they have a game left against the Bears, which is unfortunate for us. They have a game left against the Vikings, who did already beat them, so this one will be in Lambeau. That's one. And the Vikings are clawing and hanging on. I think they're a decent team. They are, they are they It just seems like what could go wrong goes wrong for Yeah they do. It's just like it's like, hey, how are we gonna lose this game this week? Yeah? They do?
They do? Do weird we so um, all right? And then this you know, the Saints are they've beaten us six times, we're all in the regular season and it's time for that day, and yeah, it is. It's just those things are true until they're not. Yeah, and that's a game that you know, hey, you gotta you can't. Well, the thing with the Saints is they're still in the in the mix for a wild card. Yeah, there's a lot of teams that are losing us this week would put the serious tint and but yeah, they still got
a shot. Alright, Alright, so let's go ahead because we could talk more about this, but I've got some other notes about the Bills game, but I think I'll skip them so that we can get to all these fans questions. Let's do it. There are lots of them, all right. I gotta see the ones we did last week and not to them again. We did the radio one, we did the one about Antonio Brown and the xclination cards. Okay, here's the one. Um. This is from Kent Denny, who's
in Tampa. Uh Salty Dogs. Been thinking about this question for a couple of weeks. The subject was talked about this past week on the Let's Go podcast That's Tom Brady with Jim Gray. And Larry fitz I did once. I wanted to listen every week, but I keep forgetting but really wasn't answered like you and Jeff Kin, I don't know about that is there. I'm not sure he's going to be satisfied though. Is there a governing body over NFL referees? The simple answer is probably yes, but
please don't be salty and stop there. What is their responsibility? Could they overturn a call after the game that would change the outcome of a game? Can they oppose penalties discipline on referees? No, they would not overturn a call to change the outcome of a game. Let's just get that one out the way first. No, you can't. You can't do that. And I don't think that they impose
penalties or discipline on referees for missed calls. But they do review every single game and every single call, and officials do get graded, and as they get graded, they want to do well because that's how they end up being able to do playoffs and Super Bowls. So there is a criteria for being spot on. The ones that great up better get better assignments, um And so the governing body is really the NFL there's a there's a
person who works for the NFL. That's the director of officiating. Like, I guess a tough time thinking who that is now. It was previously like Dean Blandino, Yeah he left, and then it was Ron Rivieria River. I think he Blandina was after him. Okay, but I don't know who it is right now. I guess we could google it. Do you want to google that NFL's director of UM ahead, No, I'm just looking at some because I was making notes on this the other night. Oh oh it's it's Walter Anderson. Anderson.
Oh yeah, he was a long time official. Yeah you remember that. Um It's so basically okay, So here was a note from UM their page, uh, the NFL's page on this. There is nowhere to hide on the football field. Whether working at closely contested Super Bowl or the final minutes of a preseason game, officials are expected to exhibit
the same high level of excellence on every play. They are carefully selected, extensively prepared, and rigorously evaluated to ensure that they call games correctly and consistently, so they are held to standards. It's just that all this happens away from the public eye always like teams actually can can send up plays to the league to have them reviewed, and the leg will tell them if if they got basically, if they got screwed, did did the rest get some changes?
And sometimes they'll come back and say, yeah, they messed that one up, and um, it doesn't change anything. It doesn't. It may or may not even make you feel better. Yeah, the one thing, and it's frustrating if if you feel like a call happened and it goes against your team. And but somewhere, I still think the human element needs to stay in the game and they do the best they can. There's there are fail safe systems so to speak,
instant replay they go to. They now have where you don't even have to throw the red flag if if the official uh if New York, Yeah they do, yeah, New York notices, Hey, hey listen, that was not yeah, very quickly and move on. So they and and um and don't forget. Everything we're looking at is from every angle underneath the sun, and they have to make the original call in a split second. I do think there's
there could be some room for some more technology. I've heard the idea, and I don't know why they don't do it of the chip in the football. I like that idea. So it's like hockey, when the puzzles across the line, it lights up, right, So why do we have to try to use these replaces to see if that dude who's tunneling in among twenty two players trying to cross the your goal and you can't see it. Yeah, your butt can get across the line, but if the
ball is not, you're not in. So let's put a chip in the ball and and and have it the uh, the you know, the goal line light up or the pylons or something. When that's the pylon, shoot little rockets. That would be good. You just have to keep guys like Warren Sap away from them before the thing. Don't kick them over kicking them. So there is there are people in place at the NFL who governed the officiating, and they make the assignments and they grade them and
so on. Um. The the the officials will also have a union, which doesn't really have much to do with you know, getting calls right in or anything. It's just to protect them. And and we remember I know this because I remember the strike. Remember the strike, some of you maybe like two or something like that where you have to fail Mary and Green Bay. I mean in Seattle against Green Bay. So um, I mean you saw then that there is a difference between the trained officials
in the next level. And the other thing too is that the officials they they have to study, they have glasses. Then they also come down to the teams and talk to the teams before the season, before the season about what new rules or how we're going to enforce emphasize taunting. So it's they they're trying. Yeah, but again they As a fan, though, I don't take any of that. And if I'm watching a game and my team gets screwed,
you you should, you know. And sometimes, just like anybody in a job, they make them they may kind of an egregious mistake. So okay, this one is from Craig Johnson and it's about Chris Godwin in the franchise. Adagh ohoi dogs. I hope you all are both doing well. Well. Thank you, Craig, Craig Johnson, you as well. A little about myself. Oh good, we get a bio. I grew up in Fort Myers, went to school at USF enjoying college games at Raymon James Stadium and now live out
in beautiful Colorado. It sounds like, you know, if you have to leave our area, that's a good place stand beautiful. Your podcast makes me feel like I'm back in sunny Florida on days like today where the temperature doesn't get over reasoning by the way it's been hot here lately. It's so Craig, you're I'd still rather have that than freezing. Yeah, but it's too hot. It's too hot for December. It's
way too hot. Now onto my question. Ever since Chris Godwin started showing his talent and character as a buccaneer, he has been my favorite player choice, and I think he's right about both shall and character. That is why I became disheartened at the beginning of the year when they put him on the franchise tag. He was outstanding versus the Falcons this week, this last week, and it hasn't been anything short of that in every other game.
Completely agree. What percentage of players get signed the failing year after being put on the franchise tag? Am I right to be concerned about the future with the Bucks due to cap space? I know the team doesn't have to make the decision for a long time. It will come around before you know it, but it has been nagging at me for a while. Also, bonus question to include Jeff because I guess he doesn't think. What what would your NFL team be if it wasn't Tampa Bay?
Thank you for both the enjoyable entertaining show every week. Well, thank you for that. So do you want to answer that real quick? Well, my if I wasn't the Buccaneers, it would be the leaders. You were your Raiders saying prior Tokay, Yes, I grew up in Chicago, but like the Raiders. Yeah, I know a lot of people like that. Is the uniforms or yeah, I like the attitude I as I just like the just I got some friends here.
They have no connection whatsoever to Oakland or Los Angeles or Las Vegas and Raiders fans y been Yeah, I would know. I have I don't have many sports things, but I have a Raiders jacket. Don't bring that around here? Still have it? Raiders caps. Now, I grew up in St. Louis. Now during the Super Bowl, they weren't my team just so when we play, Yeah, they definitely they weren't. They
weren't at all. So my team. I grew up in St. Louis, sure when the Cardinals were still there, but I can't tell you that things those really cared all that much. I was a Saint Cardinals baseball fan, and they weren't very good the football team anyway, and then they left when I was in college. H And I always actually like the Chargers, probably just because they have the best uniforms in the league. The Super Chargers I love, and
even their new stuff. They've got like six different combinations that all of them are awesome, easily the best ume first. Plus I probably caught the tail into the air Coreol Era. That was that was before, back when the only thing I understood about football was throwing quarterbacks and receivers. He was so far ahead of his time. He was right you look at you look at that those teams He would fit in right now this year in today's with
Don Coreel in the air Correol office. So to get questions Dan Fouts, Who's I liked a lot better as a quarterback than broadcast for personally, Okay, um, don't tell him, I said so that all right, then, ever, I'm gonna pat you on the back and give you a little step, So I wanted, well, I don't think you'll ever hear that. Sorry, I wouldn't have said it, so I wanted to um start with him. With Craig, you're saying he was disheartened
by the franchise tag. That's so I think it's a little harsh now because it's it's a sizeable sum of money. Oh yeah, it's a good, good one year yeah, and it's and it's it's actually good for both it's good for the play year. Well, players don't really feel that way. Well, of course they don't. Well, they're the ones that would know if it's good for them or not. Jeff, Well, let's just say it's good for the game. It's just
defends on your perspective. A lot of players don't like it because even though it's a good one year salary, it is still just one guaranteed year and you never know what's going to happen. But what but in that year they want to get their market value when they can get it. As speak, most salaries aren't guaranteed, so you're you you're hoping for the big signing bonus is
what you want? Right? I'm not saying that when they announced a five year, seventy five million dollar contract that you're getting seventy five million, but you might be getting forty five millions. He's just like Shack last year. And get to that in a minute. You know, the he played one year in attack, but it was the next deal that made him feel like he had, you know, secured his future. And when he came here, he bet
on himself because he only took a one year deal. Yes, so well that's all that he was being offered, to be honest with you, but um, so I don't. My recollection of it is that Chris Godwin was not particularly upset about it. He knew the situation and again he he felt that he would be able to have another outstanding here and be set up for one year later for a nice hit at free agen. But think back to that was the time when it was the whole
can we keep the band together? After winning the Super Bowl and having tons of pinning free agents, including guys like Lavante David and Shack, donmackin Sue and plenty of others, can we keep them all together? And somehow, um, Jason Light and Mike Greenberg and everybody else did it, and we know now that a lot of it was the kind of contracts we don't normally like to do, pushing things into the future a little bit, but we were
trying to strike while Aaron's hut. Well. The other thing too is I think Chris wanted to be part of something special, and so it if if it's a bitter pill to be franchised, at least coming off a Super Bowl year, you're still on the Super Bowl team and you're trying to make another run, right. But my point was that Jason and Mike and everybody used every they could think of to get all those in since you had to put out big contracts with multi year deals
for some of those other guys. If you can keep Chris on the franchise tag, that's a great solution. It was just part of the overall picture. And now as we see Chris as playing so well that there's no way he's not getting a huge contract from us or somebody else. Right, So it works on five franchise twice. You can you can franchisee them three times, but it goes up dramatically. The price tag goes up dramatically each
time you franchise him again, which is why. I don't think that's what will happen here with Chris, but it's it's definitely on the table. So UM, I made some notes about this, uh, because he wanted to know, like what percentage of guys UM get resigned and I want to try to find that. Where is it? Oh? Here
it is. So I didn't do forever because franchise tags have been around for a long time, but I went back through the last UM two years before this one and looked at all the franchise tags in nineteen UM. Robbie Gold got a two year deal, DeMarcus Lawrence his franchise tag, got a long term deal. Grady Jarrett with the Falcons got the franchise tag got a long term deal.
That's three guys right there. Okay, there were four. There were three others Jadeveon Clowney, d Ford and Frank Clark, and none of them got that the franchise a long term deal. And in fact, I believe both Frank Clark and Dford were both traded one to the Chiefs and went away from the Chiefs UM. And so in that year there weren't that many, There was only six, but fifty of them substantly got it longer than one year deal.
So that's pretty good. It's not bad. Last year Dak Prescott, he got a long term deal, got the franchise tag. All these guys got the franchise tag. And then I'm telling you what happened after Shack long term deal. Chris Jones with the Chiefs long term deal, Derrick Henry with the Titans long term deal, Justin Simmons with the Broncos long term deal, Leonard Williams with the Giants long term deal. So there is well, I'm not over because there was
a ton of them. Um A J. Green in Cincinnati had an injury plague season and then he went and left for Arizona. So that's really not a comparable situation. But Dupree did not get a long term deal in Pittsburgh,
Inside and Tennessee. Anthony Harris, the safety for the Vikings, no long term deal, signed with Philly the next year, Matthew Judean with the Ravens, no deal, signed with the Patriots, and got Way has been everywhere, and part of that could be because of their cap situations, but that's what he's This guy's worried about. Hunter Henry did not get in with San Diego, ended up in New England. Brandon Schurff in Washington. We don't know yet. He's gotten the
tag a couple of times, so we'll see. And Joe Tuney, I think it's pronounced New England, didn't get the deal, went to Kansas City. So it's about fifty fifty again. So I mean, basically it's been about fifty fifty. And I think you just have to look at each one
of these situations distinctly. Yeah, And to me, I think I've talked to a lot of people around here, not necessarily employees, but some that are a little pessimistic about being will keep Chris because you already have a you have cap issues obviously, you've already pushed some other contracts ahead in the future, and you have Mike Evans under a big deal already. So do you pay two receivers a lot of money? But those two receivers are a big part of why this team is so Yeah, And
Chris Godwin. Everybody says that every single time. We heard it, like four more times today because everybody's asking about Chris Godwin. He does so much for this offense. He does so much and he's another great blocker. He's got to play. He blocked. Uh, he might be two guys in one play off. He might be the best blocking receiver in the game. Right And and he is literally used in blocking schemes around the line, not just hey, make sure
you get that block out on the perimeter. But Tom Brady said today that, oh no, it was Tom Brady is the other Tom Brady knows Byron Leftwich that Chris Godwin is as complete of a player as you can be at any given position. Wow, that's a huge compliment. That's big. What else are you looking for if you don't keep Chris Godwin? How are you replacing where you find that guy. I'm still kind of optimistic, especially with Brady sticking around for another year, and he's certainly gonna
be telling management we got pounded on the table. We gotta keep this guy one way or another. I still feeling good that we find a way to keep him around. And I think Chris likes it here. I mean, I'm not gonna speak for him, and that's the impression that I get, right, Yeah you would, I mean, what's not to like? Yeah? True? All right? So next one, good one. That's a good question. Next one, Yeah, we gotta start pounding, but don't don't worry about next year, stay focused on
this ship. Well, there's nothing long with planning the head. So we already did this one from Phil Squadron about Bucks Mount Rushmore. Okay, did did I do the one? We're um I got a correction from Sam Nino about the whole Monty Kiffin leaving thing too. To podcasts ago.
We were talking about how the Bucks in two thousand and eight went from nine and three year bringing out yeah, and I said, and also, I don't think our our defensive corner of Todd Bowles is going to accept the defensive coordinator position at USC with four games to play and kind of throw everything into disarray. And Sam points out and probably knows because he's from Nashville. He's like,
just one slight correction from last week. One reason you said you weren't that worried was you did not think it very likely Todd Bowles would announce he was taking the USC defensive coordinator position in the middle of the season. To be fair, Monty didn't do that either, because he went to the University of Tennessee. That's right, because Lane had the one year there for one glorious season before going to and I thought of that and then I just let it go. I should have said something. I
would have finally got you on something. Oh, I don't
believe you. Sam. As a U T fan, Sam says as a UT fan, it truly was a Dickens best of times, worst of times moment when Money announced he was coming to UT and it just became the worst of times when his son decided to leave you to in the larch after one Anyways, what is one Christmas skipped you would like the Bucks to get as we head down the final stretch of the regular season, or to put in another way, what is one thing you think we need to set ourselves up for a long well,
well for a long postseason run. Do you have an answer? First? Yeah, I want health. Yeah, that was gonna be mine. I want I want. I wanted guys to be healthy because I want I want to see what this team is like with all the players healthy, because we have not seen it from haven't had it the three minutes or four minutes into the game went went win? Did it
was in the first quarter? When so? So that's what I we have not yet played a game where the five you count the nickelback where the five supposed starters have started because Jordan Whitehead wasn't there for Game one. Jordan's sideline again. He could possibly come back this week, Antoine Winfield. He's dealing with a foot injury that's kept him out of practice the last two games. And now you got another safe issue with safety. Richard Sherman has
an achilles issue. He was kind of a safety valve for you at safety. I'm going off on a tangent here, but um, I agree with you. I want the same thing and I both have that in and I also want you know, I want the health with COVID for that part of everything for football. But this question but for the Bucks, same and the same thing, health in general. And the subset of that is we don't have one
of these outbreaks like Cleveland in Washington. And so that was an easy one, alright, Next one, Mark Rice, did we do this one? Unfinished business? Mark Rice from Mace, Arizona. You gotta give me the question. I'll preface this by staying that I know this current period of unprecedented success cannot last forever, and I count myself fortunate for being along for the ride as long as it lasts. No, I don't remember what that said. Is there any unfinished business? Yeah,
I think we didn't do this. You hope the team will take care of during this current period. By this, I'm referring to exercising demons, and just to be clear, that should be exorcizing, because I think Mark is suggesting that we should take some demons out back, and well, we shouldn't get them some exercise like running wind sprints, whereas exorcizing means getting rid of demons. Just just refering to just here, here's a hint. Don't insult the listeners.
So I'm not insulting anybody. I think nine percent of people would have written exercising the same way Mark that, and he knows exactly what he means. I just should have had an oh, right here, I'll shutting down veterans state, which is an example i'd expected in the O two NFC Championship game, and he really kind of gives the answer that I'm sure both. I'd really like to see us win against the Saints the next time we play, and not just to win, but a statement victory that
usher's in an air of dominance. Against him for the next several months. Go you go. Sure, beating him in the dividual round last year was sweet, but didn't scratch the itch did for me? No, no, no, I'll lose every regular season game against the Saints if I get
to beat him. And I felt quite scratched. Yeah, I mean that was that was the only redeeming thing when we were in New Orleans, because they were puffing their chests out a lot of people, a lot of fans, and all I said was playoffs and then the guy okay yea. So he ends in YadA YadA, one week at a time. But December nineteenth is the date circle on my counter back home in primetime, I'm asking Santa
for a fifty seven. And you know what, there's nothing better than going into the holidays with a win when you're it's just it's just so makes it sweeter. So so this is all good. We have to travel on Christmas, Jeff, I know that's fine. It's in the afternoon. Um so yeah, that that was obviously going to be my answer too. I'm sure yours right. That's really the only what other unfinished business is there? We've kind of dominated the rest of the division we beat everybody that you would think
of beating in the playoffs last year. And what's what's so great about this one? Maybe beat the Rams? Yeah yeah, but what's great about this one is you beat the team that you don't like and you clinch the division. So it's it's it's probably make it extremely hard for them to make the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, you pretty much. I described it like it's a traveling trophy. So the Saints, the Saints need to take the NFC South Trophy out of their trophy case and bring it with me on
this trip because you might have to end it. Yeah yeah, all right, So good answer. More good question. We also give us the best answers. Um, what else you got? Okay? That that one we did? Alex c Alex from Kansas, Hey, Salty Dogs, coming down to Tampa for my first Bucks game. It's a good one. Anything cool you'd recommend to do the day of the game prior to going to the stadium. Oh goodness, Well there's a lot going on at the
stadium itself. You have, uh, he hope, probably enjoy um buck speech, you know, um, you know, allow a little bit of time to go to that is that that's pretty cool. I've never I've never been. Oh yeah, it is is very very cool. He wants to get his picture taken in the big beach chairs. Yeah, that would be something that he should check out. Allow enough time but before he comes to the game, and since it's a night game. Wow, do people still I have a long time ago in my twenties went down to John's
Pass you know where that is? Yeah? Um, if that's across the bay and uh, I guess it's in the St. Pete. Yeah, yeah, it's in St. Pete. John's passed and I and my buddy and I rented um and you got to you know, sure that was fun. But do they do that at this time of the year is a too cold? I think they would do it because when the snowbirds come down, they think it's really hot. You know what my wife really enjoyed one time was we went on one of
those dolphin cruises. They take you out on a boat out in the out in the ocean in the bay and the golf Yeah, and was it dolphins or was it managed? It was dolphins because what they do is they find them and then the dolphins start following the boat plane and jumping out and showing off and it's really really cool. Yeah. So um um those kinds of things. Yeah, well you see the problem is it depends on you know,
I don't know what you like. Yeah, well you know that's that's not much of a tour guy, to be honest with you. Well, it just another thing is it depends on where you're staying. It depends on give okay, give m a restaurant recommendation. Ah, you want to get it. See the famous place here is Burns. Yeah, you can do Burns. You can do Bradies, yeah, yeah, throw you could do. You could do the Colombian, Oh, Columbia. Yeah, that's a very famous place here. Spanish on down any
boor or go to Ebor, or go to Ebor. Just go to Ebor, go to a bunch of places you can go to. Um, well, there's a lot going on. It's what's it called now? Oh gosh, it used to be Channel Side, but now it's called something else. It's it's downtown, near near the hockey stadium. But I don't know what's down there anymore. A lot of stuff is down there. Okay, check out Channel Side. Yeah, and even if it's not called Channel Side, anymore, people are going
to know what they know where you're all right, that's enough. Sure, you can't go wrong. I mean, seriously, you just I like the Columbia idea, to Columbia for lunch or something. It'd be a nice lunch. Yeah, all right. The pay is very good. Oh if you want to go to a great uh well there's uh well, never mind, keep going. Okay, next one, and we've spoken with this guy before. I think you remember from Germany named Dylan, who once sent us a really long question I know. Right, let's talk
about that real quick. So um, because this was sent before this news because that came out yesterday and he sent us. On December tent the Buccaneers were granted access to an international home marketing area h h m A. And we chose, we we requested and we're granted Germany, which means we're not the only one. There's four teams,
the Panthers, the Patriots, and one other Kansas City. Okay, all four of those teams are now the only teams that can start marketing and in fan engagement all kinds of things, um in that area or in that country. There there's also other teams that got some in Brazil for our guy Alexander UM. He probably wishes the Bucks at Spain, China, Australia, UM, the United Kingdom, Canada, Seattle, got Canada, Canada, Mexic and you saw all the ones. There was like eight that eight or nine did in
Mexican it was like Texas. Of course that's where they should be. More so, we're very excited because there apparently are going to be um international initial games like they are on lunch regular season in Germany starting as soon
as next year. And the release from the league says every team in the league now will be will play a regular season game in an international market within the next eight years, and they will make every effort they can to put the team if a team has an i m A to put their game in that country. So there's there's nothing announced or even probably sure set yet, but there's every reason to conjecture that the Buccaneers could end up with a game in Germany, possibly as soon
as next year. Yeah. And the cool thing is is that you can could be against New England, it could be against Carolina because they're in the market, could be So you take those teams already have to be on your schedule. You have to be on your schedule. But there's a way we are. There's a very good chance Kansas City will be on our schedule next year, many on where you finished right well there the next week
next year that I believe they're the seventeenth game. You know, the seventeenth game is now you're matched up not the not the division. You're matched up for all four teams, but one of the other ones. And I think it's the West. So if we finish in the same position in the NFC South as they do in the NFC West, that be in Kansas City. We will play them next year, and that would be here. And that would be here
because last year all the seventeenth games were there. We're in the a f C teams and so that would be a perfect one to put over, although that would also be one the Bucks are probably like to have at home. Yeah I I I said, well, maybe it'll be the Bucks in New England, and everyone was going, there's no way the NFL and I let Tom Brady and be out of the country and do that. The fans would go nuts. That'll have to be But I
think that would be a great way to begin. Oh well, you know, I'm sure they love I think they will enjoy any game that we sit over there. I'm really, what do you think will play well? You think it would be? Uh? There were three possible cities, right, Dusseldorf, Berlin and Frankfort. Frankfort In. Frankfort in Berlin were both cities that had old Um in a full Europeans. Okay, this is his question. This is Dylan from Germany. A little help for you, Scott, just in case of another
senior moment. I think this little storyline needs to be nipped in the bud. But the question is actually from my co worker Peter. The twelfth and final tie breaker for the seating of the postseason participants is a coin toss. So is there ever a case when this tie breaker had to come into play? And if not, which is the highest tie breaker that was ever used to determine a playoff seating? Keep up your awesome work, love your podcast, Go Bucks. So that's your question, It is my question,
and I did look it up a little bit. I was pretty sure um that there was never going to be uh one. I'm trying to find it right now where they where they're they're going to win flip, and there was you fight all year long, dude, to battle it out with all the different teams, and it comes
down to a flip of a coin. So the way the list of tiebreakers right now, and it's a little bit different depending on if you're talking about two teams in the same division, or two teams trying for a wild card, or three teams or three two or three teams um going for divisional seating, but UM basically it's head to head comes first, and then UM conference record, and then common games, and then strength believe strength of victory, and then strength of opponents, and then you get into
things like net points in certain games. And I believe number twelve is a coin flip. If it gets us all the way down to twelve, then it's a coin flip. It's never happened. It hasn't even come close to happen. The closest thing that to that in the NFL is that there have been but they've changed this in recent years.
But for a while, if two teams were tied in the draft order and then there was only one tiebreaker, which the strength of schedule, So if they were tied in that too, they flipped the coin sure did it once in the combine? Remember that? Um? I think Bruce Allen got to call it. Um, I think we lost it. We did so? Um? Why do I always remember the
negative stuff? So the the the way it's set up now, UM, wasn't introduced when everybody realigned in two thousand and two, and that introduced the strength of victory and strength of schedule tiebreakers, And it's really not getting it's not getting any farther than that anymore. You're not going to get past all those tie breakers and not haven't work out. The best one I could find was in two thousand and six when four teams were tied for the last
wild card spots. So the first thing you do, well, I guess the must have all been from different Um didn't we get did we getting? We lost in a tiebreaker? Yeah? Okay, we had ten wins. That was the ten It was the year we actually lost to green Bay and maybe also the Lines, but green Bay was also ten and six and they went on to win the Super Bowl. Yeah. UM, I think the Giants might have been involved in that typebreakers. And in any case, UM, this one in two thousand
six NFC four teams, I guess from all four divisions. Uh, two of the first two were knocked out by their conference record, and then the Giants beat Green Bay. Do the strength of victory and getting down to strength of victory is what constitute is getting pretty far down these now and then be four thousand, two thousand two. I
found one in the seventies. I didn't find this. I was reading this an article when Dallas got won the division and Washington had to get a wild cart spot because of point differential, and I don't think they used that one anymore. Um, and then that the Panthers needed a point differential in they had to blow out the Saints. That I was just gonna say, that's the best. That's the best one, because now now you have a reason why you're gonna blow somebody and stop on him. And
it's not like, oh, you're running up the score. No, I'm looking for a point. Well, that's what the Panthers had to do in ninety nine and they kept them alive, but then a later game they were knocked out by a Dallas win. So I didn't do that research myself. I can't claim it. I found it somewhere, but right, yeah, and great question. It could come down to a coin flip, but it probably never I like these questions. We got
through him, Jeff. We only have one more and it's and the reason that I'm going to do it as again. Yeah we won again. Our guy it's Alexander from Brazil, which is not our h M a M. And unfortunately, Yeah, I was just gonna say he's probably bombed. Maybe you
can come to Germany for for our game there. So, Um, we have been if you don't listen to us, every week we have been reading a question from Alexander from sal Paulo Brazil, Right, isn't it Raich from He doesn't put that in every email any but I believe you. Um and uh. As long as every week that he's asked sent us a question and it's been about football,
we've won. So until that isn't true anymore, we kind of feel like we have to keep this up because we don't want to be the reason that the Buck's lose. HOI salty ones. Hope this finds you both well. It is not. Is it not amazing how this Bucks team finds ways to win games? So that's a much more optimistic way of looking at the games than the people
who are like you say they're blowing it. He's we find we good job, good opportunities to Jeff likes your like ot second and seventeen, Gronk catches the past for two yards and gets twelve more using his at lesson of the power to make a more mangable third down. Good point. That was the one right touchdown. And because we had taken a sack I believe, or maybe it's
a holding call. Maybe it was a holding call that we were and it's hard to do much on second you don't have a lot of second and twenty plays and second, second and seventeen. In the case, it was a great play by gronk Um and that really you forgot you forget all about it because the next play was Yeah. But what makes me feel really good was to see Lavante David making a stop on a Josh Allen run with less than thirty seconds on regulation clock and help us forcing Buffalo to kick a game tying
field goal. Is there any player more unsung as fifth number fifty four, Well, we've talked about that many times. He he really to these games intent. He really has some good pick up. I think I've seen that from a number of these questions there. Yeah, uh no, I don't think in our history there's been any more underrated player than Lavante. I don't think Lavonte David. You'd put him above Derek Brooks right now. But Derek Brooks was widely sure. I mean, you think he made ten Pro Bowls.
Everybody acknowledged how great he was, you forget, and and Lavante was great on teams that weren't great. And what's he in his tenth season now and he still plays his hard and he's still uh you know, he's one of the good guys. That's all I can say. You can ask us about Lavonte every week. We love the guy. I love him. Everybody loves Yeah. That's it's. Yeah. Probably one of the most universally beloved players in Night in your here right, Just a great guy. Okay, Anyway, I
was thinking about Brashad Perryman. He started the year in New York. I mean, I guess his contract expired, went to Detroit or maybe he was released. He was released signed by Detroit and and then which was cool because that's where his dad played, But he didn't make the team, and so then he signed out with Chicago. That's not what he's writing. I'm filling it in Chicago, land in Tampa catch a game winning TV. I think he says
it reminded me of Steve McClinton. Last season they played Sunday for the Jets and Monday morning was that edit Health Training Center. Do you guys remember any other story like this in Buck's history? Since she did, thanks for reading. PS. My mental image of Mr Ryan was something more like James Earl Jones, which is a compliment. I mean what he's say the voices, wow, because last week he sent in a picture yeah he saw Yeah, So, Jeff, do you remember a good one here? There really have been
a lot of that. No, No, if someone just coming in, like the McClinton was a trade, but I mean someone to come in and then play right away and then make it and then do something big, I just nothing. I thought about this for a while and nothing comes to mind. I hate to give a kind of a blank concert like that because most of the most of the people who have come in, it's always been because if re agency it's it hasn't been. Really yeah, yeah,
it's done in the middle of the middle. I mean you could say Antonio Brown, I suppose well, yeah, that's true, that's very true last year. Yeah, that was I guess that's actually a pretty good example, a good great example. In fact, there's probably some people that were screaming at
us right now while listen to this podcast. Probably you can't even remember Antonio Brown from last We had so many great players right now, it's very hard to difficult them out and we haven't seen Mr Brown for a few we know we have none and that's a whole other thing coming out. We'll be in that podcast next week. We'll be talking something about that. Is that, Yeah, this
is the third game for the suspensions. That's what I thought, all right, before we go, Before we go, you know, you talk about all great plays and gamers and everything. You gotta give credit to a forty four year old quarterback running like like Tom Brady and then getting into it with the d lineman. I he does that a lot. I have to say, I totally respect that and um to pop up like he does, which which is awesome. But then it was like, Okay, that's enough of that.
You don't need to do that anymore. And that's would be a said Bruce are Cameras on the sideline caught Bruce arians walking past. It was it was Tom talking sitting next to um Byron. He actually says it to Byron, though Tom I thought it was the way I heard it is he said it to Byron, but he says it's time. He's like, no more hits, okay, yeah, something like that or that's enough hits or something that's enough of that. That's what he said. He just didn't want
to take it. Just after the quarterback sneak are we're cleaning up our podcast, that's enough of that poop? That wasn't after the run you're talking about, which was awesome because usually, and as well he should, he slides before he's in any danger. But in this case he couldn't, or he wouldn't have got the first down. I actually kind of a juked one guy. Yeah. I want to ask him, at what point does he decide he's running and then as he's running, is he thinking what am
I doing? He has said that before, Actually, he said that sometimes he's running like whoa, whoa, I'm looking behind him, like what's happening? Why am I doing this? I think one of the things to partially answer that question is and I was I was actually writing about this in a mail bag where somebody asked to I think he's gonna start running more, And no, I do not think
that tom Brady scrambles. To me, all the ones I can picture of my mind are pretty much the same in that the middle opens up and he darts up the middle. I don't think you're gonna see Tom Brady scrambling around the end uh and running like Patrick Mahomes might do, or Russell Wilson or something. I don't. I think tom Brady knows he's not gonna outrun guys trying
to get to the corner. So when he the rare occasions when he's flushed out to either side, he's looking either pass or he's not looking to scramble for you. But if the middle opens up and you can see a direct path and I need like seven yards, then he's just he's a football player and he's talking about that today. All right, that's it. That's how you got what was our friend that's coming in town, that's looking
for a place to suggesting something. Let me say either way, Alex Kansas, Okay, Alex from Kansas, Listen, I don't know how many days you're gonna be in. But what you do need to do is stop at a beefo Bradies whether you have a lunch or a dinner, because you're gonna be here for more than one day, so you need to try that because then you're gonna understand what we've been talking about. And they're all over the Bay area. So just google Beefs when you're in the Tampa Bay
and you'll see it pop up. Because when you get there, you're gonna find that they got wings, nachos, angus burgers, beer, and when you put them all together, you're gonna find out why. I say, you're gonna get it all at beefo Brady's. And if you're hungry for tellgating, if you decide to tell gate, if you go, hey, I'm gonna get the whole experience. Uh. Beefo Brady is good, has full on caterie beef a Bradies where game time needs
tellgating time and time anything else. Mr Smith, just that the Buccaneers are six and o at home this year, with more than thirty seven point five points per game in those games all right, and have a active streak not counting the Super Bowl, of eight straight home victories haven't lost their in more than a calendar year, and all we need is one more home game home win to win this division, So primetime home game. Let's go on those interesting stats. Since you did, Thanks for listening.
