Salty Dogs Podcast with Breshad Perriman

who can forget again? I'm looking at those already. Derek Brooks, diready touchdown taml day, Derek Brooks, the lost pariotal player in the national football Like there it is the Daggers in where are you Gonna win the Super Bowl? We call them the salty Dogs. Hello again everyone out there, and welcome to another Salty Dogs podcast. Seeing less Salty after two wins in a row. Now, yeah, and I'm thinking those listeners are probably happy listeners right now. And

it's not just the holiday season. No, but it doesn't hurt that it was Thanksgiving and we had a win and then the whole weekend went really really well. Yeah, it was very good. We've won. The Buccaneers have their games in the last two weeks. Yeah, three out of four. That's true. There you go. Yeah, we got a lot to talk about from that game, which is nice. I mean, um, oh, by the way, who are you? We usually do that, don't Yeah, I'm just checking well if I remember correct.

The reason why I say this is because when you're on a two game win streak, people are tuning in that haven't tuned in before. So I'm pretty sure I'm still Scott Smith, and I am Jeff Ryan and and welcome since you're gonna welcome to you as well, since you're gonna do that to me. Um, I need to make sure that you press the record. But it is. It's rolling right now, and I have it in front of you with the red light on and you can see everything. But you told me the red light doesn't matter.

That's true. But what you want to do is you want to look at the count. Well, when you're old, that's what you have to do. You just got him on all the time. I take them on enough because they're reading last. This is a thrilling part of the podcast right now. Uh so, Yeah, most recent win is the Jacksonville one. If you would say that the most complete game the Bucks played was that Atlanta game. I would say that all three phases, this one was dominant.

In certain phases, I would say the first half was the best football I've seen in a long, tall, long long time. Particularly on defense. Uh Nick Foles really didn't have anywhere to throw the ball. He was getting harassed constantly. Each of his first three drives ended up with the ball in our hands and the Bucks hands, one on an interception and two sack fumbles. So that's a great way to start a game. And you not only did you get turnovers, you got points, which is not always

the case, and not a field goal we got. We were getting touchdowns, so that was every single time. And it was actually twenty two points because we went for two after they jumped off sides on the extra point. And that's kind of a neat rule to rule. Yeah, where you get the choose again yeah, uh yeah, And

you could tell. And then Bruce Arians later confirmed the US on Monday that this wasn't just a whim thing that because it was like immediate as soon as there was that, as soon as there was a penalty, our kickers are running off the field and everybody in the offense came running back on so and Bruce said, yeah, every time it happens, we're gonna go for it. When it gets from the two to the one, we're gonna

go for it. The percentages are better at the one than kicking the field goal, which which are the extra point, which I like, you know, I just liked it. I thought it was good. It doesn't make you wonder I learned something though, because I didn't realize that what that, oh, that you could do that you get a penalty like that, and it's and it's to the one yard line, not half the distance. It is interesting how um mentally you view those two things because going forward from the two

yard line, most coaches don't do that. For a few do, but most don't do it very often. But all of sudden it's at the one, and that's like, oh, we're definitely going for it. One yard makes that much of a difference. Well, if you only need one, yes, because if you need to and you only get one, you're short.

He's just doing the math for you. Here's why I think maybe that that coaches think that way because you figure you can try to dive over or bash through from one yard and you've you've got a pretty decent chance of making it. But that play is harder to do from the two. So from the one you have more available to you. You the other team has to worry more about either run or pass, whereas when you're at the two, they're probably thinking mostly pass unless it's

like a delay. And we actually lined up in a shotgun on that play. And I would like to claim, and I there's a PR guy sitting next to me, that I called the draw. There were two times in that game we did a draw play on on a short yards play to Peyton Barber. I think the other one was a fourth down play. I called it both times, like, oh, we're gonna run a draw here. Either we are, yeah, either you're really really smart or we're tipping our hands.

I don't think so, because I don't think you're really smart. I don't remember seeing that play before. I walked right into that one, didn't I. It's one of those days. Continue I I agree Jeff's reason for existence right now apparently is to make fun of me, not do a podcast about bucket fi ball. Okay, so another thing about that game, and that was brought up yesterday, and I was really glad it was during Bruce's press conference. It was almost over him, like is nobody gonna ask about this?

And finally Greg Ahman, the intrepid reporter from the Athletic who was very thorough so I'm not surprised was him, brought up Bradley Pinions sixty three yard punt, which I think needs to be getting more attention because that was that was probably his best clutch play of the entire year. Coach talked about that during his radio show Good You often have some good information. He did bring that up, that that was a key, that was a turning point. He called it the turn. It was yeah, well it

was yeah, I would say what it was. It took a situation where you're still not him, of course, but you or me, you're still chewing on your fingernails a little bit because even though it was nothing and still and you have the ball with about what six minutes left, he's still a little nervous right there, right especially when

they changed quarterbacks, so there's a little momentum. Well the stadium all of a sudden, they cared, They got what they wanted and apparently they're going to get him going forward as well, which is a crazy situation Jacksonville because they can't get out of Nick Foles contract next year without a huge cap hit. Huge they have to wait till afternoon. Could be a whole group of people making

that decision on who's the quarterback next year. You're saying it could be some people that aren't there, could be um, which is in a point talking about the Jacksonville is just a couple of years ago there in the championship game. Yeah, and that's how fast that window closed on Some of it I think was a little self inflicted. I mean, how do you go from where you were then to a defense that no longer has Jalen Ramsey and Telvin Smith.

Someone decided we're trading him. Well, someone gave in because he wanted to be traded. Kelvin Smith retired in the summer, and there seemed to be a little animosity there, So I don't know. It is crazy, though, how you can be that good and then all of a sudden you're not not doing so well. It's a razor thin edge. You lose a couple of players and culture changes, and you know, you try to make the big move. And this is not a podcast about the Jaguars'll get off

this in a second. But you try to pat the big move with Nick Foles, because even when they were good, Blake Bortles was not really the guy he had. I think he had a really good game in the playoffs when they went there one game, but they had decided that Blake ports was not the answer. So it's a big move. And then he broke his shoulder in the

first week. So but he did. But but the change of quarterback did take that stadium from being all you could hear with the Buck fans at that point, and then all of a sudden, the stadium just came alive and you could feel I don't know what momentum is, but you feel it and you kind of when when yeah, there was when they got to eleven, you were like, okay, this all of a sudden, this could be one more

touchdown and you're a one score game. I will say though that and I think maybe maybe have been conditioned by some tough times. Res only that we probably and I'm not putting origin in your mouth, but I can tell you I wasn't. The people around with me look this way, we probably were a little more nervous about it than we really needed. To be, because most teams that are in that situation are going to hold them

off even if we didn't get that great punt. But if you take the time and look at how the games were lost this year, a lot of games were lost in the last five minutes, right, but not a lot of them were lost when you had a lead to protect. And even if they got the lead was there against the Giant It wasn't it was it was like it was good. It was a good lead though. Uh I guess what I'm saying that is because I've mentioned this before, but I read an article called called

turning point. Every week and you use those win probability charts and you see wins the last time it switched to our side being likely winner and never went back anyway that in this case for a second stary week it was a britsh Ide Perriman play was that one where we reviewed it and won the challenge. But in any case, all throughout that second half, are probability was

up there around even as they were come back. It wasn't dipping because in all the thousands of historical games have been played when a team is in that situation, even if things get a little Harry, they do end up tending to win. So what I'm saying is, in retrospect, I probably should have been quite as nervous as I was. And you could hear Bruce when he was talking about Gardner Minshew. He was saying he did some good things.

He basically the main thing was he moved around so well, so he was avoiding the sacks that Nick couldn't avoid and making some plays off of that. Right, But he said, but I mean he was doing some things, but I wasn't really worried. I knew we were fine. He I'm paraphrasing a little bit, but that's basically what he said, right. So he the coaches insilightly have been through this before, and no, we don't have to win this game forty to nothing, you know, we just have to win the game.

We are going to win the game. I think it's part of also settled down everybody, or it's a different quarterback. He's going to make some plays, take a deep breath, do what we're supposed to do, and we're gonna be okay. And I think that's what happened. And so At was trying to give the punter some love, and I need to get a chance to know he is he deserves so if anybody besides, he's a great guy too, he's

a really nice guy. If anybody um is unaware of what happened, that was in the goal line stand which was incredible Sean Murphy Bunting intercepts the past in the end zone and then makes a regrettable decision to run it out, which he obviously he knew right away, right. I mean he knew right after the play because he tried to go back in and then then I think people like, no, you gotta go, you can't do that now. But immediately after the play, I think he understood it.

You know, it's a rookie made a little rookie mistake. But he also made a great play, so let's remember that. So you're backed up, the offense can't do anything. I think they had a false start which made it harder. So you're kicking out of the back. You know that backed up punt that they practiced. They practiced that once a week, and you know you see why because it can be critical. Brad. Your putter has his has his heels on the back line, so you know, a bad

snap he might step on the back line. You gotta really and plus there's a shorter rush so they might get to you for a block, So you really have to execute that play well. And generally in those situations, like I was thinking, Okay, they're gonna get the ball around our forty now and uh, because you could probably kick it close to midfield and they'll get like a tenure in return. Instead, he blasts the sixty three yard

and it was high or coverage got down there. It equaled his highest punt, longest punt of the entire year. And because our coverage was able to get there, they drew a couple of penalties, and all of a sudden, they're all the way back in their own thirty and they never got past the thirty. At that point, they had two more they had two more drive. They got the ball to thirty and never moved past the thirty. They moved backwards and both of their drives. So I

would say the Bruce called it a turning point. I would say was the the last turning point. It was the last name on the coffin for the Jaguars. And you know, you forget about those little things. But that's the difference between winning and losing. Yeah, that can be the difference. And that's where you notice good teams make that key play. And so I will say on Sunday the Buccaneers were a good team. Yeah. Sure, And it's

two games in a row and there's exciting. But you know, as down as you want to be when you're in a three game losing streak, you should also be able to enjoy a two game winnings. Yeah, and you want to pick out the things out of it that you think are real. Right, And this is where I say to you, what happens if you get to now you have a chance to get three There you go, believe it or not. Somebody wrote in about you you predicting. You were going to say that, Yeah, they'll get the

question that I'm becoming too predictable. I must stop. But here's a note I brought up last week. Remember always telling you the third downs, and over a couple of weeks, um, we like New Orleans converted six of thirteen something like that, or seven or thirteen, but six of seven were one to three yards a fewer. Our defense in the last five games has been nearly impossible to convert a third down on if it's more than six yards nearly impossible. One out of thirty four third down tries in the

last five games they've verted. I find that kind of amazing. It is I wouldn't think that seven doesn't isn't. It's not easy, but it's not critical, and not all of them have been third and seven and still have been third and eleven or whatever. But that's impressive. That's that. That's showing me that our defense is, as the coach was saying, kind of figuring it out. Now, you know you have you seen the Mike Dup for this week on bucks dot com on Devin White. I intend to

watch it later today. I already did. It's something to really watch. It's it's fun, and it's it's something that makes you think where the future is headed. He's clearly the future. I have very little, very impressive And what's crazy. I actually think he plays too fast at times. Yeah, but I don't think you want to try to let it know. You can't. You can't, but you'll see how fast he is when you do it. Yeah, And it's a if you haven't seen it, it's on Buccaneers dot com.

It's called Mike Dup. They make up a player every week gets some are better than others, guys talking, and he does it interesting. Well, I don't want to spoil it. I'm not gonna go any further, but you should watch it. Okay, But but there's a guy that put out a performance and he kind of you could tell right away when he got here this year and training him so that he was gonna be one of those natural leader types. And then even though he's a rookie, he's probably gonna

be a leader pretty soon. But then he got hurt right away at the beginning of the year and was out for a good month, and as coach with Marian's was saying that kind of setting back even in terms of the leadership, because you can't really be telling guys to do something when you're not out there, right You

need to be out there. So as he's gotten out there and now is the big players are starting to happen and people are looking to him, he's showing that leadership apparently, and I think he's the guy that's gonna be the one. You know, this is a young defense and if if the results continue to be something like what we've seen in the last two weeks and you do have playmakers and your Murphy Bunnies and your Dean's and your Carlton davis is and so on. He's gonna

be the center of all that. The guy I respect a lot is is fifty four. Lavonte David and I talked to Lavante after the game and just how the game went, and we were discussing, uh, Devin White and he Lavante said, he's gonna be great. He's gonna be a great player. I have a lot, Yeah, And that's what I said to him. But and it's fun. I remember when Lavati first came, he hardly talked to you know,

he was just very very quiet. He's still but if you know him, he'll he'll engage in in the lengthy conversations. And we were talking before we got on the bus and he was just saying how much how much fun he is having watching it, and then how all the young guys coming together. So Lavant is in his eighth year, right, he doesn't feel like an eighth year player. Still very youthful in terms of still fast. Yeah, so I think he's got a lot of good years left. So that's

gonna be exciting. And that's that's just it. And how much is it? You know, it's fun. Yeah, you can be the best player on the team, but if other guys around you aren't close, then you're just the best player on the team. Yeah. But with it all coming to other it's becoming more more fun and and and sure, you know it's more fun period. It was more fun for the fans watching the game. It's all about fun,

it is at the end of the day. Yes, two weeks in a row, uh, the defense has given up a big play like right away, like on the first couple of plays of the of the other team, And that used to be the sign that things were gonna go badly all day, that we didn't know what we're doing. In both cases, it was three yarder by Jaden Graham the tighten in Atlanta, and then the thirty nine yarder down the sideline to D. D. Westbrook UH in the

in the Jacksonville game. And then after that we hardly give up any big plays at all, if you consider big plays to be ten yard or more rushes and twenty or more yard passes. We only gave up three more each time. So I always feel better once they give it up. It's early, let's go, you know. Let's

let's get it done. I felt better after the interception that into that drive to reach his own there there when you when you think about how many sacks there were in that game, five by different people, two but by different people. The force fumble, the fact that three, and the fact that a scoop and score the third of the year, Sue getting in there again, he gets a score. That's the snow. It was Devin White this time was two weeks ago. That's what he did, recover

a fumble though he just didn't score on it. Yeah, and then and then the sack. It was funny who who got credited? I thought, uh should have got a No. We want Vita to have a great career, but every sack needs that can be Shack Sack. We would like it to stay Shacks, al right, because it was credited to Shack. I know it was. I know who it was credited. He wrapped him, wrapped him up, but he wasn't down yet. But in fairness, he slowed him down,

he didn't put him down. I'm not saying I would have asked for it to be changed if it had been ruled differently. Since it was ruled Shack, let's just leave it words that. Okay, Well all right, well what what what you should say is sometimes after games over with coaches, scent tape in and things can get changed. Well, and sometimes the last does look by themselves just because

the review every game there. Every week we get an email with stat changes and it's usually like credit the tackle on this play to Devin Wide instead of Andrew Adams or something. And it's a very small thing. Yeah, And and the reason why they do that is they can go through it in a slow motion and see what's going on where where statisticians at the official statistician is someone who lives there is a hired guy and done it for a while. Crew, would you like seven right? People? So?

But um, I thought I thought it was pretty exciting. And you know you look at Shack Barrett, well it's amazing. Okay, So two games go, um about mid season, JPP came back, but then Karl Nassa got hurt. Not long after that who got a sack too? But yeah, Karl Nassa came back two games ago and in both game since then, Carl, Shack and JPP have all had a sack in both games they've done so having all three of them out there is clearly helping all three of them, and coach

mentioned that fresh legs. You know, although I still don't think Shack and JPP come off the field all that much, they can put Carl inside and they can have all three of those guys rushing. At the same time, Bruce arians made a comment about JPP. He's just a guy now just getting out of out of preseason game. Yeah, he said that that, and that that seemed to have made a difference. It's pretty remarkable when you think about what JPP has gone through. And um, here's another another

plug for books dot com. Um in the current there's a thing last It came out last week. If you haven't seen it, see it. It's stuff on it with JPP and uh, it's pretty emotional how he talks about interesting it is. It is very good. Um and it may. I watched it and it made me think, Um, what he has gone through and what perseverance is, and how you have to as an individual, whatever goes against you in life, you have to fight through it because you're

the one they can get it done. It's pretty pretty good. You shouldn't just wait for somebody to save you. Well, sometimes you need that. Sometimes you need help, but sometimes you need to be You know, you can't help those who don't want to help themselves. If you should write that down. If you came here for a Bucks podcast, you're also getting it self. They're getting whatever. They're getting more than they bargained for, paid for a lot more than they paid for, maybe twice what they paid for

this time. And if you recognize the voice on the current, it's it's me and um, I'm gonna try a little segway here, go ahead. You're the voice on it that I'm guessing that piece. I think it's produced by Stephen Lynch. It is one of our producers. Well, Stephen, I was talking to him today and I had and I'm glad he came to me with this because I had noticed something in the the play by play that surprised me.

It's just an interesting thing. It's not that important. At the end of the game, Jamis kneeled down three times in victory formation to run out the rest of the clock. And usually on those plays, when you look at it later, you see Jameis Winston loss of one or loss of two, sometimes even and it's a sneaky way in which your rushing stats get a little bit worse, right, you lose yardage? Uh and and Bruce arians has brought that up before, and I guess he he and Stephen talked about that

a little bit. And Um, I had wondered because I was looking at that play by plan those last three neel downs and it was all kneels down for no gain. I'm like, how how did that happen? It's always like a negative yard? How do we get away with that? Apparently he was taking the snap and taking a big step four before kneeling down, and he was getting back to the line of scrimmage, So it wasn't a loss of yards. Isn't that great? And so now I wonder.

So here's I'm tasking you again. When somebody wanted to know if Jamis was squinting at the scoreboards because he was having problems with his eyes, and and you decided to go and ask him, which I didn't think at the time was appropriate, but it turned out fine. Now you need to go back to Jamison, say did you plan that? Were you told to do that? Is that purposeful? Are you trying? What are you moving forward to help your running backs? Trying to keep your yard. All right,

we'll do that. It still hurts because that's three carries from no yards, so it hurt your average, but it doesn't hurt as much as three for native three yards, so ask him. Yeah, it'll be interesting because usually you step back so no one can get to you. That's why you step back, and maybe you normally should do that. But we still had a two score lead at that. Everytime at that, every time we talk about the step back, I always think about the Green Bay game. They playoff

because of the missfield goal, because of the missfield goals. Yeah, that that Shaun King stepped back too far and not not that I remember that, and not that it has affected my life at all. And then Martine missed him. We ended up being a wild card team going to Philly again instead of having the first round. There you go, that was unfortunate. Uh so, yeah, I mean there's a lot a lot to be excited about in that game. I think it's uh well, Breshad Perry mean there's another

one career highing yards. Yes, and those were not give me catches. That one catch was the one where they had to challenge challenge it. I'll admit that in real time. It didn't look to me like you got it down really the official yeah, real time, we didn't think. And then of course you don't want to look at the boards when you're on our away game, because they were not. They were cutting it short. That was two weeks ago, No, that was also here. I thought they did a pretty

good job in that game that they did. I mean there was a couple times in the game whe I'm like, I wonder where they're showing that, because that's clearly not good for them because there's two versts. Well, yeah, there's two versions. They will show a replay. They're replay, but once a coach challenge it, they have to show what is being shown to the official. It's called their official review. They have to show it in the stadium. And that is what the officials in New York are looking not at,

and that is what official there is. And it was very clear on the replay. Wasn't even close. I mean it was very obviously he did a great job of dragging that foot, but he had a couple other nice down the field catches and give credit to Jami's two A couples were just precise throws where he was not badly covered. They were just precise that good stuff stuff. So, um, that was nice because it was It was not a huge game for either Mike or Chris, which is rare

for neither of them to have a big game. But it just goes to show you how deep we are and with wide receivers. Yeah, well if PSH games like that were deep, because otherwise we're shallow. Especially with Scotty Miller out the hamstring. He was starting to come on a little bit right Justin Watson was the fourth receiver, but he still really only saw a handful of snaps

in that game. Another thing that helps O. J. Howard having a nice day, which would have been even better if he hadn't caught the batted ball and lost six yards on a catch on a batted ball, which you're gonna do every time something you know something about batted balls in the Seattle Minnesota games. You see that. Yeah, and I don't understand. I assumed that what Russell Wilson was going to do was batted down, but it didn't.

He didn't at all. Supposedly there Supposedly, if the ball comes back to the quarterback, the quarterback is just supposed to swat it down right to make it an incomplete path. That's the right thing to do, because if you catch your But he's a pretty tall guy, pretty strong, and he jumped and he Russell Wilson is known for not being tall, very tall. He's five he's over five ten, right about five ten. That's very short. So there we are. Don't tell Drew Brees that Drew Brees is known as

a short quarterback. Those are guys who are known for succeeding that prototype, that tall prototype of the quarterbacks going by the way. So I don't think so, Jeff, I think you're Kyler Murrays and so on. Their their exceptions to the role. I mean, the taller guys have an advantage in that regard. The shorter guys have to be very, very skilled in other ways, you know, like Drew Brees

with his incredible decision making, vision ability. If you talked to coach Randall l he'll he'll he'll wish that he was and now then well he was a quarterback and he's going what he could do. No one thought you could do that back that Yeah, he I'm gonna throw another plug. That's on Buccaneers uh Total Access Radio on Bruce Arian show. He was he was he was he was them he that's that is very good. He is. He's very funny. By the way, just another another look

at me cross plugging like Chris. Yeah, all right, should get a sponsor or something here. You'd be good at What a shocker that would be. Huh are we good? I am? We've we've covered ready. Yeah, let's get let's

let's get our guest. Yeah, let's do that. That's good because the third segment could go a little longer usual because we have a lot of questions once alright, alright, we'll be back in just a minute with our guest, and then the third segment we'll get to your questions the Salty Dogs and we're back here on the Salty Dogs Podcast. Our second segment, which is always where we get a guest in here from the locker room today is Preshod Perryman thinks man, this is after practice. I

know these guys want to get out of here. Yeah, we appreciate that. But he's smiling right now because he's with the Salty Dogs. Why would you first thing I gotta tell you before we get into anything else, is that Jeff and I have been around here long enough to remember when Brett Perryman, your father used to tear us out man with all the time, twice a year, him and Herman Moore, Yes, and of course Berry Sanders. But the yeah, yeah, he was. He was hard on us.

So when we play the Lions, we need you to get revenge for us that you make that that's not good. You'll make dead happen. Was it fun growing up and watch your dad play? Honest? Did you get to see him? I mean I don't remember too much. Okay, when did

he was? What do you retire around ninety You don't know? Okay, I think, well he's the Lions from well then he he He was on some other teams too, but with the Lions that we noticed, right, kind of a bummer that you know, you're a professional fleet and then you have a son and you already out of football before you get to enjoy it. Or you wanted to be the griffeas and get yeah exactly, that would be nice. Uh. Speaking of playing the game, you had a big game

last Sunday in Jacksonville. I think eighty seven yards is there right, something like that and the biggest, maybe the biggest play of all of them, maybe not the longest was that one that they had to challenge to get it right where you dragged your toe, which was a great play. Did you know you had it? Did you say anything to the coach or did he just get it from the film. I've been the coach guy in

from the film. I mean I felt like I was in you know, I remember dragging my foot clearly, but um, you know, I just let him do what he do. It must be a good feeling that when they're showing the replays up there and you're seeing an evidence that you're gonna get it. Yeah, it's really good fitting. Man, he didn't weight off his shoulder. Did you did you lobby at all or did you just say coach? I

think I got it on you were on the other sideline. Yeah, I was on the other sideline, So I think by the time I got back to us side and I feel like they already had made Yeah. That was big play. Yeah, because it was one of those plays in real time we weren't really sure whether it was in or not. In real time, it didn't necessarily look like it, which is a good thing they have replay. Um, you had

another long catch down the field. Maybe about thirty yards down the sideline and from above it was it was a great catch. But also from above we were like, wow, that is one amazing thrill by Jamis. I mean, yeah, that was. I don't know how how does the guy do that? Man? That guy, that guy was right there. Yeah, he put it. He put it on the money. Man. He put it in a place where only I could

catch it. Really, it was. It was just beautiful. Are you guys sometimes amazed when a quarterback just put it like, I mean, I can't even imagine how somebody could locate a pass that well. Yeah, definitely. I mean you get amazed anytime you get a pass like that. Man, you you just gotta really sit back and reflect and be thankful that you caught it because it was such a good pass. He served me. I saw you to name the locker room, open up your cause for my cause,

Mike leats box. Your shoes were per weren't they? That's here? So what did your cause? Stroke awareness? Okay, because of your found my dad. Yeah, it looked like it said what did it say on the side of looks like I said, you have a foundation or something? The foundation and that's their main cause. Stroke, trying to raise awardness stroke, you know, trying to educate people about because you know a lot of people I know, me personally, I didn't

know too much about it until they really hit home. So, um, you know, we do a lot of things. We um, we adopt families, that's been for Christmas. Usually we adopt families somebody having a stroke up exactly, and and strokes. You know, when people think of strokes, they always think it's the elderly, but it's that's not that's not the case. Yeah, they called it a sign and kind of to like, like my dad, he was healthy, you know, he didn't

see anything coming, no, nothing at all. Wow. Well, I'm glad that you told me before he came in here that he's he's in some respects he's doing bad. Right, it's definitely all right. You guys got four games left, and the way coach talks about it, you guys are treating this one basically like it's the start of the playoffs for you. It's a lie elimination game. But they're still belief in there. Yeah, most definitely. Everybody has how

hopes has high beliefs. Um, we know that this game right here in front of us, is you know it's really all in Um, it's really all in nothing. Do you do you feel a difference where the team's coming together like in the beginning of the year to where you are now or is it just the same and things are happening because less mistakes on the field. Yeah, I feel like I feel like we always believe in

one another. I feel like the mistakes definitely have a huge part to do it, and I just feel like, um, you know this, this is one thing that coach I've been talking about a lot this week as well, you know, just being way more intentional. You know that it's really crunch time now, and you can you can just tell you can feel it from you know, everyone in locker room. It's the playoff atmosphere. Huh yeah, definitely you in addition

to you. O. J. Howard had one of his bigger games of the season on Sunday, and obviously we on the what Chris and Mike have done all year. But I gotta believe you guys feel better about it when the ball is getting spread around a little bit more right and it makes a tougher on the defense. I mean, yeah, but it's all good. You know, we I enjoy seeing Chris and might eat his whale. They go off sometimes, Yeah, they absolutely go crazy, and you know it's just sit back.

When you're just sitting back and just watching them is really fun. So then you know, you really learned a lot from those guys. So so it sounds go ahead, I'm sorry, does christopper anything about something we've noticed? It seems like he's had about fifteen times this year where he gets tackled out around the one or two yard line, like he makes great runs after the catch, he's trying to get it in the end zone and he's down like the one or two You guys talk about that, Yeah,

we talked about it from time to time. Man, we know we we gotta we got a new assistance now that's trying to you know, not that out of everybody. So okay, what you're doing is just you're encouraging him to keep going. He still is tied for legally and touchdown there is that? Um it sounds like from just just our brief conversation here, it sounds like the wide receiver rooms pretty tight. Is that a good assessment? Yeah,

most definitely. We all just want to see each other su seed and you know, no matter if we're doing good or bad, you know, we just always try to be there for one another. And yeah, we're pretty cool, have you. Is that something that you've been used to and the other teams that you've been on. I mean, you're you're only seven twenty six, so, but you have been on other teams, So yeah, in Cleveland. So is it the same feeling in every room you've been in

or is this something special right now? I mean, for the most part, you know, whatever team you go to, you want to feel that that together is. You want to feel like a family. And you know, but some teams you're not gonna have more than others. So I feel like here it's just a it's it's definitely special. You know. We we really the way that we bond and we vibe, it's just it's just different. You got you've looked like any cults tape yet. Yeah, what what

do you got to say about their secondary? They look they look good. We got we got to work cut out for us, but I think we can get a job done. Know, I do have to ask this. I'm gonna go back a few weeks in the Seattle game, such down I mean, I mean, so kind of walk us through that because everyone, you know, everyone sees it, but you gotta be paying attention to what's going on, so you take it from there. Um who routed a half honestly, just I just remember I ran a route,

I ran my around. I don't remember exactly what my route was, but I didn't get the ball. And I've seen James starting to scramble, and you know, I was just trying to get in his vision, you know, just trying to get open and trying to get a separation from the dB and I see him through it to I don't think it was maybe Mike can c one of those even my can ceg. And I just looked and I've seen the ball in there. I'm like, hey, I'm pretty close. And it was just like a perfect time.

That's called not giving up on the play. That's true, right, that's true. That was pretty impressive though. That was and it was a good, good momentum builder. But you know, you see stuff like that and it just shows that if you just keep rushing, hustling too the play, something good happens. Yeah yeah, ball ball ball, right, Well, appreciate I, like I said, man, we really appreciate it's on short notice. So um, thanks again. I know you want to get

out of here, but we appreciate your time. Thank you for having me the Salty Dogs. And we're back here again on The Salty Dogs Podcast, Week fourteen. We've almost we're almost to the finish line. I believe we're in December already. I wish it wasn't the finish line, and it could possibly not be the finish line. We'll talk about that in a minute, all right. I was just gonna say, don't be saying it's I know, but I mean, you gotta face in terms of the person I am.

I am facing reality right now. Okay, all right, So we have questions this week, alright. A couple are from guys. They are guys I believe who have sent us questions before, and I think they heard us for me any questions, and so they're like, okay, well I'll send them another one. Maybe they'll pick me again. Show. One of them is from I think this guy, this may be the guy who's gotten the most questions read a series of and it's you'll remember the name. It's Alexander n Cimento from Brazil.

Oh I wouldn't be that because Brazil is Portuguese. I don't know what. I would bet it's something close though, like you would think, right, yeah, I bet it's something close to see. If not see also, I don't know, and then I'll look into that. I would be one to bet he'll he'll email me and let me know. A Hoy salty ones. Since you guys are not receiving lots of questions this past week, I'm here, thank you very much. Now that we have stacked them together, I'm

feeling we are building something for years to come. And I would like to know what is our record for consecutive wins during a season, and considering multiple seasons, I know the answer. I would say the most wins we've had consecutively is five. You would be wrong, really, we did have five to start seventy nine. We had five to start, and I think in one of the um Dirk years we had five in a row. At the

end of the first year we ended up nine and seven. Yeah, and there was a five and row stretch and then we lost the last two. Six is a record, and it was remember how we started let's see one seven of our last eight and we finished eleven and five, so we would have been four. And that's right. We're struggling in October and we were three and five. Yeah, we're struggling in October. And Tony said, quit worrying about

October and November December. And when you get that's what you always remember about it because you say that, but only because it happened. Because it happened. And I did a radio show with Tony and he would tell me this. I know, I get it what I'm saying. What I always take away from this when I always remember is we lost the game in Hollow right around Halloween in Detroit. Um Trent Delford been benched and we were starting Um Shawn King no eric'sire Eric Sire Sean King was the

third quarterback. Okay, xire, Wow, terrible game, I think sorry, even got hurt, got destroyed. And the late Tom and Qwin, who was still covering the team at the time, said this team is not gonna win another game all year. Yes, I do remember. And then we promptly won six in a row, and then the oak remember the Oakland game.

We got demolished, and then we want nothing or something, so we won like seven out of eight or eight out of nine to finish the season after we were told we were not gonna win another game and maybe NFC Championship. A sidebar to that. Fast forward into the two thousand at the Chamber luncheon in Tampa and the Tampa Chamber Commerce lunch in a big luncheon with the

still goes on to this day. Over five hundred people whatever are there and Tony Dudg is speaking and he goes to the podium and he starts out with while someone here said that we would win another game, and I and it was great. It is to have dead pan Tony. It was terrific. I'm sure Tony wasn't trying to really, he was just having fun, having fun with you and uh top of you and could take a joke to So that was all good icon of the area in terms of sports coverage. So UM also, we

won six games. He asked about crossing seasons. We won the last game of ninety six Tony Dungee's first year, and then won the first five of nineties seven. So that was another six game streak. That's the record. We'd like to tie that record even the Yeah, we could, we could even the UM. The super Bowl team which won twelve and four never won six in a row. They went three and one in each quarter of the

season that year, which was nicely symmetrical. And hey, if you can win three out of every four games, you're feeling pretty good about gonna make the playoffs. You feel pretty good about yourself. Uh okay, alright? Uh does he ask anything else? Since you did? Thanks for reading p s. I'm thankful for you guys doing this show weekly, letting us know more about our beloved team and reading fans questions.

And then he sent back another email. I happened to be sitting at my desk when this happened, so I saw that these came in pretty quickly. There for another Hey, salty ones, I just remembered Mr Still, Jeff Ryan will be impossible in this next episode. Tell Mr Still Scott Smith that he was absolutely right predicting that for we to stack them up, we should get one, then two and so on. Thank you very much that he that that is an international statement, So there you go. Uh yeah,

that incredibly um difficult to understand. Point that before you win too, you have to win one, that's what you're trying to and then before you win three. You have to win. What I'm what I'm also trying to say is when you win one or lose one, then you win one or lose two. It's very quickly easy to all of a sudden you're at four, whether it's winning or losing, because it's just all right, the momentum goes that word here, Jeff predicted we will win two more

to oh yeah, we're getting there, We're hitting there. Okay, This next one comes from somebody named j J. High Salty dogs. Turner. Turnovers always have a huge impact on any football game. It seems to be especially the case for Tampa Bay games, though unlike NBA games, it seems that points game and allowed of turnovers are not really kept track of. No, we're talked about I'm gonna have to stop this right here because I reject that premise completely on face. I was just gonna say that's I

don't know who JJ is listening to. Uh, he probably isn't following me on Twitter during games because I tweeted about that in the middle of our last game. And what j J needs to do is back up because we were talking about that in this podcast. You did turnovers, not only getting a turnover credit. He wrote this in before we started talking about it, so you can't really blame him for that. Well, maybe I do wonder what

does his chart say? Right here, Jeff, Right there, it says results from turn every week, I personally have been up, have been um updating a chart like this every season since. Use that in every broadcast, do you I've been using. And if you look at this, I've got the turnovers where they happened, what the result was, the points either team got, the turnover differential, and also the points differential.

And the reason I brought this up right in the middle of our last game is because even though okay, so we went into that game nick of ten in turnover differential, which is one of those like twenty nine in the league. And you would think, if you're that means you've turned the ball over ten more times than you've that's just regular turnover ratio turned you've turned it

over ten more times than you've taken it away. Okay, So most teams that would be in that predicament also would be in a negative differential in terms of points allowed off of turnovers. But we were actually plus one, and that's largely because early in the season, we were scoring off turners like crazy. I mean in that Rams game, five touchdowns off of turnomers. That's that's either you're returning for a touchdown like Devin White did, or to drive

the results from the turnover is a touchdown. Five touch ons in the Rams game, so certainly helps your turnover reach. Yeah. And also you're scoring differential, so we've it's been a really weird season for the Buccaneers because the turnover differential has been a problem, but we've actually been better than

our opponents by quite a bit at scoring off turns. First, for whatever reason, this team has done a great job of turning turners into points, and I mean a great job because we are number one in the NFL and points off turners. For me to be able to look that up, obviously somebody's keeping track of it, because this sheet right here is only about us, but this is in our stat service. I looked it up in two seconds because it's an important stat and people know about it.

So I'm sorry. I don't know how you got that impression, j J. And I don't want it enough NBA to know how specific they are, how much they hammer that point. But NFL viewers and analysts absolutely keep track of that and they know how important it is. So the rest of your question goes after Devin White's beautiful country fumble return. He remembers that remember when when um Will Golston wasn't who told us the difference between a country fumble and

the city fumble. You know what, He's right, You know, I didn't think of that until right now until he says that because it was it was there's nobody around me, picks up, He dashes for about two steps, and he looks around and realizes there's nobody around and even on his pick, if he doesn't fall down, he's in. Do you think, yeah, you'll see wow. So if if Devin White, let's see the country fumble thing, just for anybody who doesn't know. After in domin Con Sue had his in

the Rams game to seal that game. Uh, a writer was, you know, telling us all how we were totally wrong that he should have just fallen on the ball. You have a better better because you can round with the clock. Then and we were talking to Will Golston about that. He said, well, there's a difference between the city country and city fumbled and country fumble. In the city, there's always people around you, and the country you're all alone.

And if you're all alone and everybody's around people, if you're in a country, fumble you pick it up and go. If you're in the city, you fall on because there's so many people around. So I was the country from a good job by JJ. Remembering that, I began to wonder how turnovers are directly affecting the score of Tampa Bay games a lot. I was hoping that you guys would have the ability to gather the stats I did for this and help me get a better idea of

what turnovers are really doing to BUCKS games. I don't know what their numbers will look like, so sorry if this question doesn't really bring up an interesting answer, or maybe you can find an interesting trend. Does the offense does the defense hold opposing teams to zero or maybe three points when the offense turns it over and they did a good job of that in the Atlantic game, right, or does the offense take advantage when the defense gets

the ball back? So looking at this chart here, uh, we've given the ball away twenty eight times and allowed eighty six points off of that, ten of those are touchdowns five field goals, so fifteen of the twenty eight have resulted in points. So thirte Haven, our opponents have

scored three point one points perked turnover by us. Now we have only had twenty one takeaways, but we have fourteen touchdowns of two field goals, so sixteen of the twenty one drives or return four resulting from turnovers have resulted in points, which is very very good. And we have five point o points per turnover compared to three point one for our opponents. So that's exactly what that what JJ was asking for? Good question. Well, I love it when I get a question going, Hey, I've got

a exactly for that. Right you get the show house, you have to go to a second page, Jeff here, Wow, Hey, S and J. I like that. It's feeling a little less salty with two wins. And you said that right up top. Yeah, wow, these people are really really good. They're paying attention. Always say we better be careful with what we say. You know, that makes me feel actually actually worse about perpetuating this lie that you couldn't use coins in London. Kind of kind people didn't pay along.

Makes another president would be saying let's not go there. Uh, if you put it on a Fox News maybe you've said, since you guys, put on a plea for some more questions. I saw that the Buck did actually the last game. I said, come on, sis, we call that a promo. We're promoing how to get how to reach us. I think the word plea is okay there, okay. I saw that the Bucks were still in the playoff hunt, which he put in quote Atia Marsh, which makes me think

that maybe he doesn't agree that much. What would be what would get into the playoffs? Really take see what a couple of wins strung together does go Bucks. Here's the three in a row, Bobby Munster. We think we've had him before to a Bucks fan in l A. So what would it take? Listen, what it's gonna take is Minnesota losing. We can go through a bunch of scenarios, but the key is Minnesota losing, and they did last night, which was which was kept us kept our hopes a

little bit alive there by that happening. So well, we can go through the scenario here. It's straight forward and um so the best the Bucks can do is nine wins. So if you can find if six teams get to ten wins, it doesn't matter what we do. Well. San fran and New Orleans are already there, so we can't get them. Uh, Seattle is already there. That's three teams. Green Bay is nine and three. They're gonna get to ten,

no doubt, probably this week. The The problem is that Dallas is only six and six, but either they or Adolphia is gonna win the division, so they're in two. So that's five teams that we're not gonna catch, right there, three tin and two teams, one team that's absolutely gonna get TIN and the NFC East winner. So that's that's black and white. There's nothing you can do about that unless you think Green Bay could possibly lose their last

four games, beginning this week at home against Washington. And I know Washington just beat what Carolina. I would be surprised Washington wins in green Bay, right Yeah, if you if you have to look at the odds, I would say green Bay's good shot. Greenbody is gonna win at least one of the least. Yeah. This isn't the nine and three two thousand and eight Buccaneers. You got something there? No? Okay? Um?

So you need. You can't have Minnesota also get to ten wins, and they're at eight and four right now, so they need to lose three or four games going in period. There's simply is no scenario if they don't win, if they don't lose three or four games, there isn't because they'll be five ten and two teams in the NFC Champ NFC East Champ, and we will have nine wins if we went out. It's not a difficult picture here. It's it's not but there's one thing that has to

be done. We have to win. It doesn't matter what anybody else does on Sunday. It does matter what everybody else does, but if you don't do your job, it doesn't matter. So let's just say the way the schedule has worked out. As much as we bemoaned the road trips in October, we have a very favorable schedule as it played out, which which is fair when you see it's the Colts, the Colts, who are a good team.

Yeah they're hurt and they're banged up. Um, then you at Detroit also banged up, but you're on the road in Detroit. But the good news the four wins on the road. So you can you can say, okay, that's a game. If you play your game, you got a shot. The Texans Houston's look. It looks really good. They look, but they have had a bunch of games that have been really polar opposites up and down. Yeah, they've had

some games. As somebody who's one of his fantasy teams was deeply invested in Deshaun Watson, I happen to know that there have been weeks where they haven't done anything at all. I don't hope it don't sound too bitter there. No, Um, So it's a even though I think they're a very good team and they just beat the pants off in New England, it's not a crazy thought that we would beat them, especially because we're playing a lot better. Now, Well that's just it. And and then you finished at

home with them and it what was that noise? Well it was a matter of you gotta play the good teams in the playoffs anyway. So it doesn't help if you can only beat bad if you if you just beat the bad teams in December, or you just get in and then you do your one and done. Now, don't get me wrong, Well you get in up playoffs and we were one and done. It's a nice building block. It's a really nice building block. Even going even finishing this season eight and eight or nine seven won't be

a nice in building black. It will be like I brought up last week, will be like the But you remember, you have to go back a little bit. You're just remember everybody when when when what the team did do was they would go to the playoffs and then they wouldn't go very far in the playoffs that everybody was mad all the time and every year, right you're you're there, I'm sorry. Now you would now you would love it, well, it would be a stepping stone. But that's just it,

And I mean that's just being a fan. I mean in New England right now, they're going nuts. They lost a game. They're going nuts, and it's definitely gonna make the playoffs. The sky is falling. But but I guess that's what it is that you know, you get used to it, you want to win, and you know, I'm hoping no matter what everybody else does. Gosh, I'd love to just see us streak on out because it just makes me feel really good about next year and I want to and I want to feel good about. Uh.

So there are in addition a few teams. We are the best of the three five and seven teams, by the way, in terms of yes playoff options, in terms of time breakers and so on. Um, but Chicago six and six and the Rams or seven and five. So even the scenario I drew up with Minnesota losing at least three of four, one of these other two teams could still mess it up for us. The Rams are the The good thing about the Rams is we have the head to head win against him, so if we

catch them, then we have that tie breaker. But but before any before you have to worry about the Rams or Chicago, you have to get Minnesota. Three losses well, one of the one of the things. And you know I've said this before. You want to play meaningful games in December, and this Sunday is a meaningful game. It's meaningful to Indianapolis to the lost to Tennessee really hurt their chances, but they're in it, and so that's where you want to be. So we had our first game

in December against Jacksonville and got it done. Now we're ready for our second game. And I agree it's good that they're meaningful and that they matter. But I also don't I don't want to overstate it. You sounds silly if you say, you know, this is a critical NFL game because we have to win four but lose three, and it's probably all of that together. You're you're asking for seven of eight games at least to go exactly

how you want them, and you're probably not gonna get that. No, But but this Sunday, this Sunday, I can have fun going. This is a very meaningful game, and it's a game that Buck fan should come on out and see because it's gonna be eighty degrees and sunny. Yes, it's going up already. Just I looked at the weather before we came, and that's good. But I wouldn't mind seventy or some Oh the cults they'll be wilting eighty degrees. They're like, what is this? They just got hammered with snow the

other days, right, I wish we could have a snow game. Um. I do have one more question and then we'll be done. Uh. We were talking about still trying to make the playoffs, but at some point this season will be over, and at that point you'll have to start turning your attention to next year and next year's suster. And there are a lot of people coming up to be free agents, and that this is the question from and this is the name I recognized as well, Todd Birchfield of Lake

PANASOFKI Florida Dogs. If we tag Jamis in the words, if we use the franchise tag to take care of the fact that Jamis is appending free agents. So that's so, don't worry about Jamis. According to this question, we're already done with that. Who do you see as the top

three re signings we need to make? And let me run down some of the guys that are all expiring contracts and Dominican Sue DeMar Dotson, bo Allen Brashad Perryman, Shack Barrett, Jason Pierre, Paul Peyton, Barber Playing Gabbert, Darien Stewart, Sam Acho, Karl Nassa, Kevin Mintor where Kim Newonis Roaches or A Watford, Josh Wells, Ryan Smith, Andrew Adams. Those are all unrestricted free agents. There's some other restricted free agents like Antonio Claire and some exclusive rights free agents

like Tanner Hudson and Mazzi Wilkins. But you don't really have to worry about those because you want to keep them. It's pretty easy to do so, so it stops here. I know, I'm looking at your sheet, and when I don't see your sheet, but then when I saw it and you started reading, I didn't know what all that was.

Seventeen guys. It looks like they're going to be unrestricted for it, as if if you don't sign him before and so he wants us to pick the three we would I guess the three you most like to have back. I would like to have a lot of these guys back. Yeah. I was just gonna say, I mean, doesn't Shack have to be the top of your list? You would? You would think, you would think, But do you over are you?

I don't know. I are you worried about this being a peak season and then you're going into paying a ton for a guy that's you hope sixteen sacks every season and that's not gonna be duplicated. There's that concern. But I will say, in fairness to shock, he was getting around everybody and they changed how they were going to play him, and he has figured out a way

again to get around Pete. No, he's great. And I would also point out that Bruce Arians says he doesn't think that check is gonna cool off, and he didn't just mean the rest of this year. He said he's gonna keep up, because he said he said some phrase like even when he gets paid, he's gonna keep doing this. So Bruce Arians doesn't think that this is a flash in the pan or a flukey thing. So I don't know what's going to happen, dude. This question isn't forcing us to figure out if it works or if we

can afford him or whatever. Just who do we want? This could be the Simion Rice thing that happened because when Simeon came here, he did a one year deal. Are you sure about that? He did a one year deal, did really well, and then he got paid. You can look it up. I'm going to the later up, but I'm pretty I'm pretty sure. I want to say it's something crazy too, it's something like a million dollars really, because I remember that that Monty Kiffin was really really

wanted to sell Simeon. He told him. His line to him was and proved to be true, that you're the final piece of the puzzle here. We've got this great defense, but you will make it, you will put it over. If I remember how this played out, he was pretty good player in Arizona, but they were in dispute in Arizona and he got mad at them, and we got him for a one year deal, and then we did

it again. So you need to look at up. I'm going off a memory, and if I'm wrong, I apologize, but I don't think I Well, if you are, then this is a that is pretty analogyus. Except the difference here is Shack got a one year deal kind of like a proved thing. Yes, and that's what semi well. Simeon already had like a whole ton of sacks in five or six years in Arizona, whereas Scheck, because he didn't get a regular rotation role there, sometimes he played

a lot and sometimes he didn't play as much. To that guys like von Miller and Chubb. I don't know why I would think that. Well, you may be right, I don't remember that now as we're talking about why would I think that? But I'm sure it's a matter of record somewhere. But yeah, that would be a good analogy in this case because he took Shack, took the prove it deal and proved it. It's a perfect scenario. Yeah, and now somebody is going to give him a big

contract and he deserves it. I hope it's US. I like on this list an awful lot in Dominican Sue, so do I I just think, even though the stats won't blow you away, if you look at the page, I think he's played. I think he's had a great season, unsung part of why that front has worked so well. I think he's had a great influence on Vida Vey. I think he had. He was definitely a no nonsense

like business. Interesting enough, Vita was on the radio last night and he was talking about his interaction with in Dominican and he calls him big Girl Sue because his names Sue or that's what that's what that's what what Vita calls him. I guess because his name, last name is Sue. Why he just likes messing with him. So he called a big girl. So listen to you should. It's very very funny. But I guess Vita is one of the few people that can afford him mess with him.

That's what was said. That was that's what Casey said, you bean only you mean a three seven found guy wouldn't be afraid to call it him, But he said that most people don't. In Doma Kin doesn't just go out and talk. But if you approach him and have a discussion, he's very uh commutative. Yes, he really gets into the xs and os and he said it's just really solid. So I think, yeah, I think that would be a nice one. Now the question would be, is

in Dominican tired of moving around? He was with Miami or with Detroit of course, then he did a multi year deal in Miami. He did a one year deal in l A. Now he has a one year deal here. Is he tired of moving around? And does he go, you know what I'm gonna be thirty three is that I'm in a state that does in the same draft. Yeah, I'm in a state that has no income tax. I might be able to take a little bit less because I'm not gonna give it to the government and I

can stay here and help you out. Jeff Ryan doing the pitch for him, trying to negotiate a deal here, Well done, well done, go up there and um and knocking on the door Yeah, yeah, Greeny would love me coming in the door. He loved that so And I don't mean to to all be in the same position, but I'd like to have Karl Nasser. I was gonna say that's you've got my three right now, because they the coaches really like him and they like what he brings in terms of versatility. But also, I mean they

voted him a captain this year. They didn't. He's another guy that that he's he's unique. He has a unique personality. Yeah, he just he just has a different way of looking at the world. I'll go with that. If you saw him on hard Knocks when he was then you saw that. But he made he made good sense. He made a really good sense. Don't spend your money, it makes sense, put it in the bank. Compounded interest. I think there's a game a guy named Buffett that said something about

compounded interest. Yeah, but he hasn't done very well that at all. He's struggling. My gosh, he's beanie weenies. He's he lives in he lives in um Omaha, Nebraska. For crying out, because I know that Visas is no longer the richest man alive. Oh, he's way up there is he top five, He's he's like that has a way that hath Away stock is just crazy price and and it's real stuff. I mean he and he You know when when you talk about you know, Google, what what

is that? You know? But it's worth six hundred dollars of share? So I'm just saying, um, but compounded interest makes everything cool. Yes, So I I agree with those three. I'd like to see a lot of them come back. I mean we didn't even say JPP. I guess he's he or Shackery or Sue are the oldest of the four. So you know what I'll say, you know what I'll they think is going to be uh might be interesting. As guys get a little a little older, um in their careers, they want to win and maybe they may

be seeing right here right now, take close. You know, I don't know whether they do or not. The next it could tell and then and then next year who's back in the reason why man? Other than maybe New England? Where can you go and be sure you're gonna win? You're not even gonna be everywhere everywhere you go, the coaches are gonna and the coaches probably do this sincerely and believe it, but they're gonna tell you, hey, we've got it here. Next year is the year we're coming in.

You're one of the final pieces of the puzzle. Um, look at Baltimore right now, right now, look at the Rams. You'd you'd say, hey, I want to go to the Rams A good shot. They're young and they're just beginning in this young coach and there are seven and five. They're not destitute or anything. No, but they're not the powerhouse that they were last You could have gone to Atlanta two years ago right after the Super Bowl and thought you were in on the ground floor, and now

they're just they're they've fallen apart. Yeah, you just don't know. Well, you probably would have thought Philadelphia was gonna win this year, right it's hard Carolina, Carolina, I mean we now Chicago, Chicago, there's six and Green Bay. They change head coaches, so you weren't sure. Minnesota and now they're great. Well they were pretty good. Um, yeah, it's it's da I mean, I mean you always think Dallas is gonna win and all they ever do is not so well, they're still

probably gonna back into the playoffs. Shot at it terrible, Well, they're they're in first place in the division, so they definitely have a shot at it. All right, all right, that's the last question. But that was a lot. Yeah, that's good. Thanks for all the questions. Any fans who want to send us questions, Uh, you can do so at by sending an email to Salty Dogs at Buccaneers dot NFL dot com. Okay, your assignment for the week you're talking to me or the fans you your assignment

for the assignment? Do you remember? Yes? I do? What is it? My assignment is to ask Jameis Winston does he go forwards or backwards on purpose? Did he go forward on purpose or the reason? And you get an assignment to and your assignment is did Simeon Rice come here on one year deal? And then well I'm gonna go look that up as soon, okay with this podcast, So I will have no problem completing that assignment, okay, because you can't wait to prove me wrong. No, I don't.

It's not even that I didn't know that, and it would be an interesting thing to know. And you know, it's funny when I when I was saying it, all of a sudden, I was like, why are you saying this, but it must it must be so, why are these words coming out of my mind? I don't know, Doc, Since you did, Thanks for listening. M