Sailing Solo Again | Salty Dogs

You're the national football like third is Tuck Daggers in where are you gonna win the Super Bowl? We call them the salty Dogs? He done there? Jeff, are you doing today? Awesome? Awesome? You're ready to do a little podcast for the fans here I am. I am pumped up. I don't know what day it is, but I'm ready to go. It is hard to keep tray. It is crazy.

It's Wednesday. It is. Yeah, Well it could be a Monday because I watched football last night, so I know that's I'm just saying it could be Tuesday since you watched last night. It could be Friday, crazy time. We're not gonna stop until the NFL's on every night. Uh, that was weird football being on last night. It was a good game, though, Yeah, I can't say I saw a ton of it because I was pretty interested in the Rays as well. I was doing both. I was

flipping back and forth. How about those Rays? Well, actually, I have to confess I was not doing the flipping. The Dodgers are on, so I had to deal with that last night. Jeff wife is a big Goddress fan. Therefore, she's feeling the pain once again once again as it looks like they could squander yet another opportunity when it looks like they have the best right and and and she wouldn't say this to you, but I will. At least her team's in it. I was taking a sip

when you said that nearly had a spit tach. My team was in it. So both teams either playoffs but not very far well made the playoffs and neither one. Well, the Dodger are still a shot. We can't write them all.

And congrats to the Rays. They could wrap it up. Yeah, amazing you they're just throwing like one nineties six and nasty think you think Houston would have Steve Sacks playing second and then they're they're playing phenomenal defense, Joey Windle over their thirds like a vacuum and then uh, and then they just wait for the Astros to make a mistake. And this is a nice part about the Salty Dogs. We're all about football and Buccaneers stuff, but we're also

sports film. Well, it's kind of an incredible it's kind of an incredible time for this area after the lightning one Stanley Cup and now the Rays could win their first championship and and I still have a lot of faith that the Bucks are going to be on prime contender. When it's all a sudden Yeah, no pressure, Tom. You know, I was just talking about the Salty Dogs defense. Let me get your salty dog can't come in here very quick and fast, get out of here. Um the raised defense.

Did you see the catch by Manuel Margot when he went flying over the sideline? I have long held and I want to see how you feel about this, that if you cannot stay in the field of play while making a catch, it should not count as a catch. You did not keep that ball in the field of play when you're trying to rob a homer or Rob's going in a foul territory. You're trying to keep it from landing out of play. And if you fall over the wall into into the out of play, then you

didn't succeed, No, because you're out of bounce. Yeah, if you if you jump over the center, now, if you stick your arm over there, that's the whole idea. That means the ball never landed on the ground. Right, Well, the ball never land on the ground just one either, although you could say, but yeah, if you were if there was a fence short enough for a guy in the outfield to jump and he makes an incredible catch but then flips over it, which I'm sure has happened

at some point in baseball history. He lands out there, that shouldn't kind. If he can't stand out there and wait for Homer and catch it, that wouldn't be an out. So why isn't it out if you fall out there while catching it? I just don't agree. I I love baseball and I like most of the rules, but I think that that's the beauty about sports. You don't have to agree. Um, all right, do you want to talk about some I do? I had about a million roster

moves yesterday. Holy smokes it, it is crazy. Well, the first, the first Domino and all that, of course, was Vida Vella's injury, which was I'm still not over that. Sorry. I know, I woke up the next day in such a bad mood. And it's not like it's affecting me more than his teammates or he was really off to a good stuf. I don't know if some people realize just how good he was playing and just how big of a loss that is. And it's sad because it was all coming together for him. We'll see what one

loss means by the end of the year. But I think it's possible that the on that Thursday night, the loss of Vita Vea was worse for us than the loss of the game. Oh, I agree, because it's never I mean, you can forget the Chicago game. It's done, it's over, a move on. But uh, having Via Vega gone is going to be every single game well every yeah, but every win and every lost counts, and when we count them up at the end of the year, if

you if you find out you're you missed by one. Yeah, Well I don't envision that in a but but if as I look at that Chicago game, it was bad enough that that we lost for you to vea But I just what I felt, really, I just really just didn't understand all the penalties. And I know I couldn't be careful because if you have a team that played so well the week before, you have the offensive player of the week, and then this week you're having all these issues. And Bruce Arian said, it's you know, we

got to coach them up better. But I don't know how in three days they forgot Okay, I thought you were going a different No, no, no, I'm not No, I'm not talking about Zebras at all, not at all. No, I'm talking about the fact that I think that's just a game that got away from them, and I think that hurts more. I I really believe that that that loss bothered me more than the last time we were in Chicago. And law well, that one was you were kind of over it by midway through the second you're

getting spanked and it's overwhe with it. That was about Mitch Robiskie's career production in that game alone. But yeah, of course, a tougher loss that you think you're gonna win is a harder one to swallow. Uh. As far as penalty, as far as the the referees, let's just say that Bruce arians was just asked in a zoom call if the Buccaneers had submitted the play where Shack Barrett was called for rough in the pass her and if there had been any response, and his answer was no,

common brother. Yeah, So that's about as far as we can go with that. No, I agree. Yeah, I concur with Bruce Sians on now, uh that you concur with no common in me keeping your wallet there? Uh yeah. Um, there there have been a penalty There have been penalty problems. Um. And I think our offensive line is playing very well for the most part, and I think they have some games that are great. The Chargers game, the offensive line

was great. Could have been the m V p uh the Chicagogy and they weren't great, although the pressure still wasn't terrible and the running and they did open some good holes for Ronald Jones. There are penalty problems. We've had nine holding calls. That's not the most. Kansas City actually has more. It's funny because you look at it, the teams with the most holding calls are US, Kansas City, Buffalo, they're all doing pretty well. Seattle has some of the

most false starts. They've always been a highly penalized team, and they keep winning. So a high number of penalties in and of itself has not been correlated with winning and losing teams. Like I said, Seattle has been a highly penalized team for a long time. Raiders used to be great and they didn't care about the penalties they got, right, Um, So it's not really the number, it's it's the situations, and it's too many of them are putting the Bucks

in bad down and distant situations. So nine holding calls, one of those was on the receiver. So eight holding calls on our offensive lineman and eight false starts, five of which were on offensive linemen. So, uh, that's probably the only thing that they need to clean up. And then and then you could say it's already above average line according to the stats. Yeah, And and it's something

that you can clean up really quickly. I mean, it's not it's not like you gotta figure out how to run faster, you know, I mean, it's it's it's a mental it's a mental approach. Well, some of it is Yeah. Some of it though, is attention to detail. Cruiserans are just saying if you're you know, it's techniques. Sometimes on these holding calls, you get your feet beat as as the way you put it, and then the guy beats

you because your footwork was wrong. And then he's like, if he beats you and his head to the quarterback, I want you to hold him. I don't want their quarterback. Yeah, he staid, he'll take the fifteen yard penalty rather than having his quarterback kids whatever. Well, if it's a personal foul, but whatever, yes, so and that is a problem, and I'll throw another number at you. Um. The Bucks are

pretty good. They're about mill of the pack in third down conversions this year at forty one point five percent, which is amazing to me that the middle of the pack in the NFL right now is conversion rate ten fifteen years ago, that would have been one of the best teams in the league. Now that there's three teams over fift the Packers are coming here at fifty one percent and they're not even number one in the league. Uh. The Buccaneers are pretty good. They're very good. If they

can keep it short. They're one of the best teams in the league third and third and one, third and six, and so when we've been able to do well on first and second down and crucially avoid penalties that put you in behind the eight ball and done in distance, the offense moves along just fine once you go from third and seven and back. We're three of thirty so far this year, and um so as soon as you hurt yourself a little bit, you kill your drive. Third and third and lung is always hard. But I think

we probably could do a little better. We did convert one in that game on a pass too camp break. By the way, I went to point out the very top of this that we are fun. We're sailing solo again for another week. And last week that was on on purpose because the schedule was so compressed. This week we just got caught up a little bit. The schedule

changed because of testing changes. Players now get tested on game day, which means they can come back in the building on Monday, so they're so the Bucks are going back to the normal NFL routine of getting their players in on Monday, giving them treatment, breaking down the film, then giving them Tuesday off, then coming back on Wednesday to start the new week. This week is a little bit different because we got a bonus practice song Tuesday.

But anyway, the whole schedule got mixed around, and then today got mixed around a little bit. We thought we had a guest lined up. It didn't work out, and rather than ask somebody at short notice, we're like, okay, well we'll just get We'll just we'll just have to be better at our jobs, very obtaining. We have to be on our a game. So did you have something more to say about the third downs? Those sounds like you're about no. I just it was just frustrating. I

just thought it was very, very frustrating in game. You know, it was there for the taking, as they say, and and you know what, Chicago deserves credit because they did what they needed to do to get to to get

it done, you know. And so but it's like you said, you're gonna go back, and you look at it, and as time goes on, you look at the games that you think you should have capitalized on and you and you didn't and that and it's not just us saying, um, the team kind of hurt themselves more than than the Bears did. I mean, nationally, Yeah, everybody's been talking about the players are saying it, but also other people viewing

it or like, but I will say Chicago. Um, I don't know who it was, but someone what do they four and one? Now someone's I don't know, they're the worst four and one team in the league. You always hear that, but you go, you know what, you know, you know, give them credit. E they're getting it. They made a quarterback change. It seemed to be the right thing to do. When they needed to make the play, they made the play. Um, when they need to make

a defensive stop, they made the defensive stop. So it's their win, it's their w I guess it's I don't know if it's on the same level. But last year the Packers win thirteen three and people were calling them the worst thirteen and three team ever. They made it to the NFC Championship, and now there are four or oh, and they look fantastic, Like maybe they were actually good and it's hard to get to thirteen and three without being really good. Yeah, there's some teams you just like

to hate on, you know. I mean, I don't like the Bears. Well it's just say perfect example. Well, I'm from St. Louis, so um there there is that and soldier field and we all both know people who are rooting for the Bears. Who happened keep reminding you do? Oh yeah, actually you know all right then and there and so you just kind of you know, Grin and Barrett no pun intended. Yeah, okay, I'm glad that's over. So back to yes, how do you respond? How do

you fill that void? You can't. You don't have another view, Joe Man, So you just you can you get a variety of guys to step up. I don't think it's gonna be one guy and he and if you don't know, Nacho refers to over Keim Newonias roaches and I also think it. I think other guys you know you, you say, the guy you know not you has to come in. He has to step up. But I also I also think the guys around him have to. You know, they're playing a certain game with vitav in there. Now their

game kind of changes a little bit. Yeah, it depends on how well. I don't think that the Bucks approach on defense will change the last Nacho to try to do the same stuff that Vida was doing as much as possible. But if he can't keep blockers multiple blockers off as well as Vita does, because hardly anybody can. That's why he's nat was having a fantastic training camp.

One of the he was one of the biggest buzzes of all the camp, and some of the defenders are clearly, even though they hate how it happened, clearly decided he's gonna get a chance to show what he can do. So we'll see, uh, and maybe everything will be just as good as close to it. But let's just say there's some more blockers and a free because they don't have a Vita be in there to hold up one

guy with one arm and one with the other arm. Uh. Yeah, I could change it, could change the game for the linebackers a little bit, and they may have to work their way off blocks a little bit more. I don't know, we'll see. Yeah, well, it's definitely a great test. I mean, you're gonna find out real quick how good, how good it is. I think last week I asked you did

you know who? And this is true anymore, but at the time who led led the team in receiving arts and you surprise me by knowing it Scotty Miller because I thought that was a little bit of a tricky question. Do you know who leads the team in quarterback hits right now? No? No, I was wondering if you could go for two for two. Will Goldston, who you do not tend to think of as a pass rusher, he's got seven. That's the most of anybody on the team, more than j PP. He's been quietly making a lot

of impact in the backfield. And that's in that's even though his role really isn't that's not really his role. It wasn't. Maybe we'll be more now because you go into your sub packages. You know, in our base you have three down linemen Vita b In and in Tomming, Gun, Sue and well Ghoston. You go into a sub package with five defensive backs and it's a lot more like a four or three front, and you only have two down linemen in the middle, and it's more often been

Sue and Ya. But maybe we'll will play a little bit more in there now, uh and get more chances to rush the pastor and uh. That will be interesting to see. Yeah, it'll be fun to see too what what Todd Bowles does with um with the defense if he changes it up a little bit like you just said, no, you didn't think, I don't think. I don't think it'll be drastically unless unless, unless you're not getting the results.

I think you try to do the same thing. I gotta turn them loose, and if you get the results, great. If you're not, then you have to make adjustments. Maybe you have to blitz more. Although he already is one of the most aggressive blitzers out there, I don't know how much more you can blitz. But been on a game to game basis. To be honest with you, here's another thing I found interesting in that UM Chicago game,

and it was actually a good moment um. I think it was the second quarter, fourth and one at our own nineteen, and Bruce went for it. I liked it. Oh, I loved it. I need it. But we we had another fourth and short and we didn't go for it. Correct or I don't actually recall that this was fourth and inches and you have Tom Brady, who's proven throughout his career quarter he can make that play work. So I understand it's such. It's just something you don't see.

And I want to tell you how rare this is because I looked it up uh on a site that the Pro Football Reference. Unfortunately, their database only goes back to still since all across the NFL, there have only been twenty times that teams have gone for it on fourth and one from inside their own twenty yard line. Twenty times and then what's that six years quarter of

a century, so less than one time a year. Really, yes, but it gets better because most of the there's more Okay, if you're losing, if you're losing, if you're a fourth of one at your own nineteen in the fourth quarter with three minutes left and you're losing, it's not a crazy thing to go for it there because it's like, if we don't go for it, we don't get the ball back. That's not a crazy decision going for it when you have the lead in the first half. How

many times does that happen? Three? This is the third time since that a coach has gone for it in the first half with his team winning, and they all worked. By the way they all worked well fourth and inches, you would think you should be able to get there. It worked. Out of twenty times that teams have done

this since then, it's worked twelve times. But really it's told on eighteen because one of those was one where the punter on took the ball and they just took it a safety on purpose so that they could free kick with hardly any time left. And another one was when the quarterback kneeled in a tie game with one second left, so instead of punting and risking getting getting a block. So really, twelve out of eighteen times it's worked all three times when the coach has done it

when leading in the first half. And that's what I found crazy about it, that that makes a much more bold decision because we've already got the lead. He really wanted dead biscuit. No, we're just getting no biscuit. So he um. I think that's what the analytics would tell you to do, but coaches still aren't doing it in that drastic of a situation because one of the one argument against it, Jeff is yeah, if you go for it and fourth and one, I see you did bring

your phone in this time. If you go for it now I'm looking I'm actually looking at the re quarter of my phones over here, remember, and it's and it's dark. You did remember the recording? Yeah, that's what I was looking at to see if it was clicking because I was gonna go, how am I gonna tell Scott? Movie are good? I lost my tryan thought, oh okay, so you go for it and fourth and one and you make it. Okay, So now you're at like the twenty one.

You're still a long way away. The drive could still three plays later and then you then you might look back and goal. Is that Gambell really worth it? But I think it is because I think what the analyts say is you're trying to steal as many possessions as possible, and by not punting it away there, you're basically stealing a possession. And if you can do that, maybe it wouldn't have worked this time. It did. We got a

field goal. Maybe it wouldn't have worked this time. But if you do it all the times you should do it, it will work overall. Even I mean, it did work in terms of getting not getting stuck down there, but it could have not worked in terms of leading to a scoring drive. But in this case it did, so good stuff. I did a little research, did a little research. That's as far back as it went. I would have

gone further. Well, that's still pretty far back. You know, it doesn't sound like it, but when you start adding up, you go twenty six years away smoked. So all those roster moves that we made, Um, we're sitting here right now on a Wednesday with a game on Sunday, and we have fifty two players on our fifty three man roster and fifteen of sixteen on the practice squad, which in previous years, leaving spots open in the middle of practice. You would just never do gonna break a story here

or something. No, not at all. I would just say that it's just a sign of the times because with the sixteen man practice squads and a lot of movement up and down. Um, you're already we've got sixty eight players here, so we could go up to I'm sorry, sixty seven. We could go all the way up to sixty nine, but we're only gonna have fifty eight of them active on game day anyway. I mean, you don't really have to make sure that your fifty third spot.

And it's hard to bring players in. That's true too. Yeah, we're in the process of doing something because it takes seventy two hours to get a player to come in because you have to test negative for three straight days. That's a very good point. It also could be that we are contemplating um promoting somebody from the practice squad

to the active roster before the game. But we're thinking, man, we're not sure yet if we're gonna need another receiver or another running back or another defensive lineman, because we're not sure where Chris Godwin is right now, and we should find out more tomorrow. This is this We're recording this on Wednesday, and Bruce arians said at the beginning of the week that he felt there was a good chance that all those guys will be back on the

practice field. I think they all have a shot. Maybe Lashawn might be the farthest away, but Leonard for Nette could be back, which would that would help, sure would would would free it up a little bit from what Rod Joe, who's playing well, but different type of different style of running. Mix it up. Roach is doing a good job. He's getting some options to he's making some

nice moves in the open field. He's getting some opportunities to be in the open field because like I said, I think the offensive line is doing a pretty good job and he's seeing the hole. He is but he's doing better then the stats suggest he should you know what next gin stats are, okay, And so all those players are wearing trackers, so they the data they produce

out of that is incredible. So every single player, every movement makes how fast he's going, where he's on the field, what direction he's headed in his track at all times, and then these stat services can compile that data in

any number of ways. And one is to look at where all the defenders are and where all the other ten offensive players are other than the running back, and how fast they're moving in what direction they're moving at the point where they were running back gets the ball and from that get a picture of what they think the running backs should be able to get out of it, and that would be the expected yards on that play.

If you get more than that, then you're at plus of expected yards and that means you did something good. Ronald Jones was plus forty one in that game, and he's plus ninety seven on the season, which is the third best of all running backs in the league. So it's a little hard to understand everything that goes into that, but if you just take it at face value, it means he's he's good playing well, yes, he's he's improved

from last year. Running back of of average caliber would not have gotten as many yards as Ronald Jones did basically what that stat says. So that's pretty cool. Yeah, stats are fun if anything else. Ah yeah, the elephant in the room, the all the games moving around and actual fourth down or was it third down? Was it third down? It was a fourth down? That is the elephant, and you need I was trying really hard to ignore that. Well, I I I thought about it, and I went no

where the salty dogs? You do you? I think I think he thought it was you know, this is just my opinion seeing the game, watching the game, looking at it. I think he thought it was third down for whatever reason, and it just happened. And if it had been third down, he would have chosen a well, I think no, if it was third down, he because he was thinking it was third down. That's why he took the chance on

the passing through. If yes, if he thought it was fourth if he was going to fourth down, then he probably would have taken the check down. You know, But was there an there was supposed supposedly there was an open um um for the first down. He should have gone for the first down rather than for the field goal um yardage because where Cam was, if Cam was able to catch that ball, they would have been in

field goal range right there. So but no guarantee he would have made that decision any way, even if he knew it was the Wow, that's true. That's that's very true. That's very true. And um, I I will say this, I like Tom Brady's uh sense of humor or, at least his um his ability to look at himself and say, hey, you know, I'm human when uh, the Lakers one, he did the uh the photo he photo shopped Lebron You

didn't see it. He photoshopped Lebron James's head on his body with four and said, congratulations on your fourth championship, old man. You didn't see that. Has he really only won four? I think that's something? Yeah, fo, yeah he won one in Cleveland. Did they win too in Miami? Okay? Did they? I know that at least went one they won in Cleveland, and that so either or But anyways, UM, it was pretty funny. You need to you need to google it and look at I don't follow the NBA

quite enough to know I don't either. I just have touse to see it because it was Tom Brady, and Tom Brady tweetered, you don't follow Tom Brady? Yes I do, but do you have him on notifications? Because I don't have enough game. There are times when I don't pay him attention to a period. Yeah, well there's that, Yeah, plus all the other things I'm not And they're on Twitter nine stuff. They know everything as soon as it happens.

It's part of their communication, which is fine. But sure we're past that, Jeff, I guess a couple of times. But I did appreciate that, and I and I that

is not the reason why that game was was lost. However, at a minute and thirteen seconds left on the clock and you give the ball to Tom Brady and all you need is a field goal, I thought, for sure this is this is this is gonna be this is gonna be awesome, which brings up an interesting point in that he's the all time leader and come back winning guys marching John, which is why you believed it, and so did I remember at that moment, I'm like, Okay, this is why we have Tom Brady, but surely this

is I know it isn't the first time he's he's been in a situation and not won the game. He just wins them at a higher rate than most people would and it and and the thing was and and this is it. If for whatever reason, if he never held his hand up with four, you know, if he just said and it didn't say yeah. But but it's immediate now. Whether he knew it was third or fourth down, I don't know. I just know that it was fourth down. Whether what his thought process, I have no idea. I

did too, because I remember the feeling suzes over. I just got up and took my computer. Yes you did, you did leave very quickly, yes, But um, but that being said, we barnched forward. I was just talking about how I got up where I was working for the road game. Because if anybody's listening to this podcast, I know that you and I are not traveling this year for obvious reasons, and um, which breaks very very long strings for both of us. But it is what it is.

And you are directing the radio broadcast from the control booth at Raymond James Stadium when we're on the road, and because you have extra feeds, and and just it's nice to be around some people I've chosen to work there as well on road games, and I just want to say, pull them back the curtain a little bit. It's kind of it's kind of fun watching you direct a radio broadcast. I mean, I didn't think you were good at anything with you, and you were really good

at directing that broadcast. I'm impressed waying all the balls you have in the air at once, and and just how you keep it moving. Okay, we're gonna be back at thirty seconds. Make sure you get this in, make sure you get this in, and blah blah blah. It's pretty cool. And the other good thing about it is you have the mic situated some way and that you can't pick up whatever. Well, it's funny because you always say, gosh,

you know, can you hear us? Know? We're very their Their microphones are like what we have on right now, very very directional. You're not picking up you're not picking up that other stuff. It's a good thing because my language got a little salty. Well yeah, sometimes my language gets a little salty too, And I appreciate you not mentioning that, but yes, uh it is. Um it's it's a different. Um, it's a different It can't be. It

can't be easy to do. It can't be easy, period, but to do it from where you're doing it, and it seems like, well, it has gone really really well, and I'm really proud of their team, you know, I'm really proud of the guys and and and the girls that are working and getting it done. And and um, I will say, uh, it's weird because like we're gonna be home this week, and there is an adjustment when

all of a sudden it's live. And that's when I noticed the difference, because there's just so much more you see when you're live at a game, You're you're looking at the bench more, You're just there's just so many things. And when you're doing it the way we're doing it, even though we're getting more feeds than anybody else, and I say, thanks to the NFL and the Competition Committee for allowing us to have some feeds that that aren't going anywhere else. UM has made it, has made it

so that we can pull it off. Most people can't tell the difference whether we're there or not. So yeah, but you're being transparent about it. I'm not trying to fool Oh no, no, we're not trying to fool anybody, not at all, not at all, but um, it is it is going to be um kind of fun. I mean we had a night game and um we're falling into that. Jeez, you know we you know, yeah, and

we're talking about previously that the schedule kept. You know, how the football schedule changes on US football is gonna schedule change again because night game week is different? Well yeah, but I mean, how's he treating Vegas? They go to Vegas, they play a game, you know, players, so the players coming in on Monday and then Tuesday off or how's he gonna work that because you have the Monday so you know, again, we're gonna have a schedule weeks m

hmm and even four games you know. That's that's uh, that's still a late game. We don't have another one. Oclock came until what November? No, Yeah, Carolina in Carolina. Yeah, and it's it's it's a Carolina game, which which I don't know whether we'll go or not because it's close. I don't know. I just kind of like just going with it. I asked every week, Hey are we traveling? No, Okay, I gotta ask. I think I think the party has become more restricted, not less. Well, that's that's it, you know.

And and you know a lot of people think I kid when I say wear a mask, But if you like football and you like sports, just wear a mask. I mean, well, well, hey, you know a perfect example. We're in the state of Florida and you know, um, the Gators were all excited. They wanted to put tons of people in their in their stadium. And guess what that Gator L s U game just got moved, which are postponed. Yeah, I location, no, they moved date, they moved the data, which is sad. Which is sad. There's

a lot of people looking forward to that game. I've listen. I enjoy sports just like anybody else, and I wanted to keep it going. Speaking of which, the Saints thinking about playing at L s U. Yeah, we've been there. And and if you don't know, the reason for that is that there's no national um policy of how to deal with COVID nineteen. So each state, municipality, city county all have their own rules. And the City of New Orleans is not allowing large gatherings. So that's kind of

thinking about so they can have some fans. Yeah, I think they were allowed to have. Yeah, well that's probably a really big stadium. Well yeah, now it's like a ten whatever. When we remember we were there, they were like under construction after Katrina, and that's why we were there. Barbara at three picksh gosh, those guys used to terrorize Aaron Brooks remember that. Yes, Simeon Rice used sack Aaron Brooks three times a game. Rodney Barber picked him off

a tounch of time. It's crazy. Since then, did Bucks haven't had much luck coming up against non great quarterbacks in this division. I mean, the Saints have had Drew Brees ever since the next year. The Falcons have had Matt Ryan forever. The Panthers had Cam Newton for a long time. Not to mention Jake to Alone, who used to have our numbers? Oh Jake? Yeah uh. And he played for Carolina to which which was crazy. Played for his Saints and Carolin. Yeah, he barely played for the Saints.

He completed one pass against us on a third down after somebody got hurt. There has a quarterback um in Minnesota. He was a backup and we made him a superstar. Every co Wade Wilson, Yes, yes, you remember that. I was some of that was even before my time. But I could see in the record books his name keeps popping up and like Wade Wilson, Yeah, I've always killed us. Yeah, And it was like we were in like we're any time we played Chicago. I think a Tom Waddle a

tight end. He was a buck killer too. I thought he was a receiver. I think he's a tight end. I mean the name sounds like no, no, I got it. I know he's in radio now. The name sounds more like a tight end than the receiver. Yeah, I mean I remember that that there was a time Waddle I thought he was a receiver. Well, let's find out the the modern day Wade Wilson is case Keenum. Whenever we

run into case yeah are yeah, yeah, yep. They for the Bears attended Cain's been his entire season with the Bears, but they didn''t know. I'm sorry. You were right. He was a wide receiver. I thought he was a tight end. Was that I was? I was correct? Again? You finally were right? You finally you and a broken clock? All right, so you covered your elephant in the room. Are you satisfied now then? Yeah? But I'm surprised you didn't bring it up. I mean, you know, I didn't want to

talk about it. I understand, but I want to talk. I want everyone to know. I'm like the teenager who doesn't want to talk about the topic that his parents want to talk about, which just pretty much every topic. Did Alex do something wrong at home? No, Alex never does anything wrong. I mean he's he's a good kid. Yeah, he's Hey, did he pitch at all anymore? They they haven't, so they're just practicing. Okay, but he's applying to some pretty impressive school. Yes, I know. I'm excited about that.

We'll update once he gets enough about. His name, by the way, is Alex Smith. So uh, he's probably the third most famous Alex Smith. He could become in around the NFL. He could become the most famous Alex Smith before this is over with. Okay, Um, we're obviously, like we said, we don't have a guest, so we're gonna go. We don't we need to need a break, right, No, we'll just go straight into the now. Were already roll thirty three minutes. Okay, Well, I got some pretty good questions.

I'm I feel good about this. Uh, here's the first one. Hey, salty Dogs, tough loss to the Bears. I live in Indiana and here all the trash talk from old Bear fans. That sounds terrible. Yeah. I have two questions for you. What is Aaron Rodgers record against the Bucks in Tampa? Mhm, Okay, let's do that one. Um, he's two and two overall, So I think it's oh and two in Tampa, because, Uh, I don't believe we beat him in Green Bay. I don't think we've won in Green Bay since two thousand

and five. Uh, And he didn't wasn't starting until two thousand and eight. We beat him in two thousand and nine, Jeff in the UM that was the game in which um was that Josh Freeman's first start. Yeah, in the throwbacks. I think we had to pick six in that game. Uh. And then we beat him again maybe the very next year. Um, but they've won the last two. No, it wouldn't have been the next year. I don't know it's two, and I think it's I think it's two and oh against

Rogers here in Tampa. But that means nothing. No, that means nothing whatsoever. But it's a good question. Yeah, but this one might take a little longer. Who would be your bucks mount Rushmore of players? Picking just four would be tough. So maybe Mountain rush four of offense and defense of all time? You get this thing. You've seen this thing for right, somebody'll do amount rushmore of this or that which means your four best. I've actually done

this before. It was quite some years ago and I was tasked with that, and you can it's hard not to make it all defense. That's the problem. And I don't know how you cannot start if you're doing the full team, how can you not start? You have three guys on the Hall of Fame, so they have to be there, right, Orn sapp Leroy Selman, Derek Brooks. So who's your fourth by most stats by a thing called um A V which is sort of an all encompassing stat of how much they contributed to the franchise. It's

probably Rande Barber. He's probably the fourth best player in team Street. John Lynch, you probably think of as a possibility there, right, I think that's where you would start. But when I happened to do this article, I'm like, I know I could say that, but I think that the mount Rushmore of an entire team should have at least one one offensive player on it. I would say just like that. I would say, because he's one of the most popular offensive players, and that would Michael's who

I chose. I mean, he's got accomplishments to six Pro Bowls, and he's the all time touchdown leader, which is probably the most important thing. He's I think, our third leading rusher. He's up there in receptions and as you said, everybody loved him and still does so I think that would be the choice I would have to I I would have to agree with that because, like Evans is working his way there though. But there is something, there is something Um when you think about that, It's not only Um.

There was just there was just a connection with the fans and Mike. I. I don't know if it's because the fans felt like he was one of them, you know, hard working, unch of blue collar you know, no airs, just a guy that you know, went and did his job.

Um had some pretty fantastic runs. It's just you know, when you needed it, uh, you know, a part of the greatest call that Jane has up the gut, you know, with up the gut, I mean he just I mean, I I just sitting here, I'm thinking about when we were in Minnesota at the Metrodome where, um, you know, Mike bounced off like three or four people into the ends and went down the line. Yeah, he went down the line. He ended up going in backwards on that one.

Was it against Cleveland that he like blew away eight players or something like it was? It was the Super Bowl year, Um, it was in It was here in Tampa. Uh. One of the big storylines of the early part of that season. Bucks were playing well here was something like four and one or five and one. But Mike All said Gruden wasn't using Mike also very much and that was a big So I think Gruden was a big Oh here you go, because he threw he ran him a ton in that game and he had like a

hundred forty yards um. But yeah, on one play it was it was about a twenty yard run and he's just bouncing off one guy afternoon and I think he made contact with nine different defenders. And they played the replay on the board and you know, it's a slow download bit and you see and the crowd starts going like making the hudding noises every time he runs into a guy. And uh that one thing I like about

that highlight is it highlights as highlights do. Um. One thing that I think you have to understand about what made Michael Staid so good was that he had incredible balance for his size, and so there were there was a spot, there was a time and it's not the only time it happened in his career where he was actually going look like he was going down and he got hit by a guy and he kind of used it to get back on his feet, like A yeah, pretty impressive. Is it pretty very very much so, but

I think that was part of it. And and so I like your Mount rushmore. I like it. If you had to do we just do real quickly. If you had to do one on offense and one on defense, I think we already said the defense one. You'd have to choose between Ronde and John Lynch for the fourth spot. I think I'd probably choose Ronde. And that's no offense

to John Lynch. But Rande was here a lot longer, um, and it's hard not to include the guy who's your all time leader in games play games started in interceptions and he played his whole career here, So you know that you gotta give credit for that. All time offense is a lot tougher. Obviously, we'll start with I think Mike Evans is there already. Yeah, Mike could be there. Yeah, he's our all time leader in virtually every receiving category. I think I think Mike Evans will be there once

this team gets into the playoffs. Oh man, he's already there. Yeah, he's your all time leader easily in every receiving category. And before you know it, probably within the next two seasons, he's gonna Do you think most people know that? Yeah, okay, it's just curious. I wrote about it in mailbag for tomorrow. Okay, well, then they will know about it. He's he's at fifty five touchdowns now, that's only sixteen behind Mike, So you

got a long way to go. He's gonna get there, and then they'll be your all time touchdown leader too. He's he's definitely. I think i'd put Paul Gruber in there. Yeah, that's a good one. That's a very good one. And then it's getting lunch. The other lunch pal guy, well, a guy that really never got the he did he never went to a Pro Bowl. You didn't get the recognition last getting the last game of the last game he ever played was in Chicago where his leg was broken.

Line didn't get to play in that ye nine, Yeah, then did didn't get to play there? Then? Yep? Uh what else? I mean Jimmy Giles for the time, Yeah, and and the way tight ends were that weren't utilized as much, you know, that was That's that Fred Johnson and which quarterback do you put a quarterback on there? I mean it's hard to play well, you know, it's it's it's yeah, because he's the only guy that has won a Super Bowl for this team. Doug Williams well,

and then there's that too. But I think I think, you know, Doug played really well when he was with us, but I think, what, uh, you know, when you look at that that period of time and then you know, he goes to the USFL and does really well and then he goes to Washington and you know, people forget he was the backup in Washington and when he won the Super Bowl. So um, but uh, yeah, you would have to kind of think about that that, you know, I think all stud Evans, Gruber and Giles is where

I'd probably got with that. M h I've got others that I like more. Maybe work done. I'm a big fan of Joey Galloway, Vincent Jackson. Numbers are really good. Um, there's some really good players that have passed through here. You forget about it. It's just that it's hard. It's not like four separated. I mean, if you were doing this for the Cowboys, you know a lot. Troy Eigman's a lot, Michael Irvin. You know what I'm saying. Some teams this will be a lot EASU. But yeah, all right,

but that's good. I like. Okay, next question, Hey, s Dogs, Rojoe had another great game. He's starting to remind me of another awesome Buck who wore twenty seven. Legarrett Blunt. He's big, he's tough, and he's a downhill runner. Keep up the good podcasts. Phil Squadron, longtime Bucks fan, Orange County, California. I actually know I know who this is. Yeah, he has a huge Bucks fan. I actually didn't know or remember that he's in California. He's actually he's actually fun

to follow on Twitter. Um. I think he's a writer and a teacher. Uh uh yeah, I don't know. La Garrett Blunt and he's not that big. No, no, but I mean I was trying to figure out how he was getting the La Garrett blunt part. They both wore number twenty seven. Yeah, yeah, but La Garrett, I don't I don't see this. I don't see their styles the same. La Garrett was more of a break a tackle break, run you over and just keep going or jump over you, sorry,

jump over you. Arizona game. Yes, I remember that. Yeah, he does have he he had some pretty spectacular plays. I think Bron Jones might be a little shift here. Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, okay, interesting and it actually wasn't a question as I look at it now. Sure it's fire a statement, but I appreciate you listening and taking the time to shoot us an email. All right, right, hey, Jeff Dogg and Scott Dogg, that's all right. I think he's trying. I liked and wanted you just be salty.

Obviously we're all seen you know what. I didn't say the name of the first guy. The first question was from a Justin Whittaker. Uh, this one is obviously we're all seeing these games being shuffle. I'll shovel around on the NFL schedule because of COVID. I get that they're doing their best to get all the games in, but that can't be easy on the teams that have to suddenly change their game dates, especially the ones that don't have any positive cases but just have to move because

other games were moved. My question just how hard is this for a team and who has it? Who is it hardest on, players, coaches, or somebody else. Thanks for your time, Trent Davidson, it's hardest on me. I actually have an answer to this. I think it's hardest on Trim Tim GEROCKI yeah, the team. Well, it's hard to on any travel guy. Because what people don't understand is

when you move a game. If even if you take a game on a let's say you're supposed to play at one o'clock on Sunday and your game gets pushed to eate something, you now have to get that hotel to let you stay. That's a minor thing comparatively plu Us. You have to now um have different food service. Plus you've got to hope that the airline has that aircraft in the window, because usually what they do is they give you an aircraft. If you have a window of

so many hours that the aircraft is yours. So yeah, I mean it's a lot. That's and that's minor compared to what these teams are being. Oh, it's the team that's really catching It is the Chargers. And they didn't do anything wrong. Do you see how many games got moved on then because of who they played? Miami had game move jacksonell a game Movie, Denver, New England none of those teams, well in New England has cases. Um, but yeah, I mean Buffalo last night and the Titans.

The Titans didn't play for the Titans only played four games. Everybody else played five because of it. Yeah, but that was a legit by that wasn't a well that's another thing. So this team, and you can't feel sorry for the Titans. I feel sorry more sorry for the Bills. Um. You're expecting to have a bye weekend like week eight, and then all of a sudden you find out on Friday, like, hey, that that week you just had, that was your bye week.

It's hard to get them. You were probably probably practicing if you were allowed to. Um, you know, you can't get the value out of the bye week when that happens. So but even more so, you you take a game, uh, and change it by a couple of weeks. Now, these poor travel guys, you know, when they start working on on setting up you do when they start saying up

hotels pretty much ten seconds after the schedule comes out April. Yeah, and they get it all lined up well ahead, and then they got to fly in and check it out. That's right, you know, even though even though there are certain hotels that teams go to those they know. But you know, as we say, pull the curtain back. But it changes with each head coach because each head coach has a different criteria what they're looking for. Some coaches like the best hotel that's closest to the stadium. Others

want to be a little further out. Some don't like to be in the city, something like to be and some of them will go, we'll go and name like to stay as close to the hotel as possible in the airport right right, stay at the airport, you know, no matter how the quality of the hotel. Right, stay and stay at the San Francisco airport when you're playing in Oakland. Not that I remember that at all, not at all. No, So man, and have everybody go to bed at eight o'clock because that would be a little

bit of clock Eastern time. But I digress. See you give me all cranked up speaking of old coaches or or yes, congratulations to Raheem Morse. He's the interim coach for the UH Atlanta Falcons. For him, I wish him success all except two games against us, and only because he's a good guy and we know him and and we don't you know we we we have rivalry, yes and uh and if we beat them twice then we're gonna be in great shape against them, so no matter

what they do. So yeah, but that's good. I mean, m Raheem gets another crack, even on an interim basis, and it'll it'll be interesting to see how that goes. Um, Yeah, that's cool. But on this back, on this issue of moving games, on the flip side of that is, somebody pointed out was, yeah, you have to find a hotel and very short notice. But there's a lot of hotels

that are hurting for business right now. That's true. But what you have to understand is that a hotel just can't take you to take you because there are so many requirements and a lot of times the teams are pretty much taking that whole hotel. It's not like as much as they can uh number of floors, uh, meeting areas. Um. The biggest thing too, is on a short note, is the food. You know, you think, oh, how hard is it?

But you gotta order, you know, if you've got all of a sudden order, you know, fifty tons of red beef, I mean, it makes it all. I think the team's travel guys I probably feel the worse for right now are the ones whose games got moved up. Like if their game was supposed to be it's in week six. If it's moved back, you can probably talk to the same hotel and can work on it a little four weeks from now. Can we still have the same deal.

But if if to move up four or five weeks and you have very little time, that will tell me like maybe, like we can't do it. And now you're searching around. I don't know how hard it's been on any particular team. Well, we haven't seen Tim, so we don't know. He's our travel guy. Unfortunately none of our games have been moved. No, but yeah he's tier too, so we can't go We're not over there. Yeah, it is weird. It is weird not seeing people you know

all this time. Yeah. In fact, I saw a couple of people come in for the first time, uh this week that haven't been and it was kind of weird seeing them. You know. Sometimes you see people in Tier two, like by the downstairs, yes, where it almost overlaps, and you go, yeah, yeah, over there. I'll just say, you know,

there's a there's a um. There are stanchions to keep it that you can't cross, but there is a table that everybody uses that If I need to get something to a tier tuper person, you text them and you put it on the table. Yeah, you go, you go by there. You see all these little notes for different people to to grab. You know we need is we need to have some dumb waiters installed. Most people don't know what a dumb waiter is. It's not someone who's

not the brightest ball, but the Christmas tree. A dumb waiter is a shaft where you have it. It's like a little elevators and food and stuff up and down in a multi building back in the turn of the century in your castle. I do remember, I don't think dumb waiters are You don't see him many of them anymore. I'm a little surprised. Well, I don't know if you've gone out to eat, I've seen something, but that's a whole other story. Yeah, hey, that guy's bring us for

food and not wearing a mask. Yeah, what's he's a dumb waiter. All right, that's the last question, Jeff, that's good. That was a good question though. That's a good question. Yeah, hopefully, hopefully. Um, you know, we didn't even mention. It's hard on the players and coaches too. It's very hard because it changes your whole game plan, it changes your it changes your training. Teams love to be on the same schedule as much

as possible. If a coach could have his way, every game would be one o'clock on Sunday and every every week's schedule would be exactly the same. That's what they want. Well, if you look at Buffalo and Tennessee, they played on Tuesday. Now they gotta play on Sunday. Okay, so it doesn't sound like it's a big turnaround, but it's similar. It's similar like Thursday. Right, Well, we all know how that plays.

It does, and it's hard on everybody. It's it's everybody just likes to know what the week is going to be like, and you get into that habit and you know, it's interesting enough that you walk in this building and you can see a schedule if you if you have a TV, you can flip it over to a channel and it shows you the schedule, and everybody just likes that and say, you know, it's Monday, this is what we're gonna do. It's Tuesday. This is and um but it is so you know, you just gotta you know,

everything changes a lot. Yeah, I mean it, it is a I'm just hoping that it it corrals a little bit too. Um. Well, the real test is going to be when a team they have to they can't play a game because of COVID for a team that's already passed, it's by week because then there's no want to move it. Yeah, well they they they're there. You know, there is that the conversation they do have, h you know, they hoping they don't have to, but they could have a Week

eight team. I think it's gonna end up happening. They don't want to, you think it will. Yeah, only five weeks in Jeff and there's been like ten games moved. Yeah, why is it going to get better. Well, that's true, so true again once you get past the team, it's if green Bay has a problem now and by the way, Wisconsin is a massive hot spot right now, the city of green Bay one point or something. I was reading that.

I was like, holy smokes. So if green Bay has to have a game moved, they're already passed there by. So what do you do. The only thing to do is put on the end, right. You cannot play two games in a week. You can't, no, you know, I mean there's not even a question because it would really be three games in a week because if you've had to put them on Sunday and Thursday, then they still another game the next Sunday. Yeah, and then you got to take in the health factor. You've got to take

in all of that. Yeah, that is uh. I mean, I guess the only way that would be to get ultra creative and be like, Okay, they played a Thursday game, We'll move their next Sunday game to Tuesday and then move the next game, you know, to like space it out as as possible. But that would be really hard. Well, and the other thing too, is dead it. It certainly

hurts when you move those games like that. Uh, it hurts TV ratings, It hurts the dollar because, uh, like last night or Tuesday, you had two baseball games and yeah, but those baseball games are getting terrible ratings. Really yeah, that's because no one knows where they're at. Well that's they move around. You never know where they're being played. But all right, I didn't realize that. Yeah, they're really getting bad ratings, which I'm not happy to say, because

I was reading. You know, it's funny. I was reading an article about sports being down, and a lot of it is because they believe it's because it's a little year and peboard looking around trying to figure out what's going on next. So but you know, it is all right, Jeff, you've done well. We really know. We almost nailed an hour or three minutes. That's good. Yes, we will be back with the guest next week. Yes. In fact, I already have somebody I've talked to, so I think we

got a really good shot. All right, very good. You want to see who it is? Are you want? You're just in case, you know, because things change even you know why, you know, I think thank you since you didn't Thanks for listening.