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Now we know what we're doing. Brady's moment. Yeah. Uh, we're probably a little extra salty today, not only because the Bucks lost and they don't do that much anymore, so we don't have anything to complain about. That's for lots to complain about. Well, I would complain, but I will start with the opposite of a complaint. I will

tell you something I'm very very happy about. It is that, barring probably an unlikely rematch in the playoffs, we don't have to go to that damn building again for probably about a season. I would be so happy about that. I hope the next I hope it's week seventeen next year, so it's like fourteen months before I have to go

back to that cursed place. Yeah, there's something about it. Well, hey, it's been bad for us the playoffs last year, notwithstanding was great, it's been bad first for the most part. Plus I just hate the place. Yeah, even other people the place, even though they spent millions of dollars upgrading it apparently, and still there's only one elevator to the

press box that fits about seven people. There's actually two elevators to the press box, but they won't let you use the other one because it's only for NW Orleans people. I walked, I walked down there with about four minutes left in the game, because that's the way that that's the way the PR guys went. Wanted to go down to the press comments frum and the woman is cheering

like crazy for the Saints. She doesn't see me walk up, and then she walked, oh, I didn't even see you there, and she starts talking about we really have to win the scheme, and then she looks at me goes, wait, are you with the Saint And I said, no, I'm with the Bucks And she said, oh, well, then you can't go down this elevator, so I go to the other elevator. They hold that at two minutes for coaches,

which I understand. Elevator eight, Yeah, I understand they hold it for coaches, but they say they hold it from the two minutes. There's like four minutes left in the game and they're already holding it, and the last two minutes are gonna take like half an hour. So you could go up and down a few times and you'd still be fine with So I couldn't just just stuck

there for longer than should be. Fortunately, Karmen did a smart thing Karmen Vitality staff writer and had made friends with one of the workers there, which was a good move the opposite direction. I approtected. Sure, I gotta give her credit for that, and they let us get on with the coaches. So were you being were you being salty? I was a little salty. I wasn't really like saying anything directly to him. That was grumbling quite a bit. Okay. So so plus the just the press box up there

so high and all the noise. You have to crane your neck to see the replays on the TVs. And Dave Moore had a good line. He goes, I feel like we're watching the game from the blimp, which is it where we're above where if you've ever seen the super Dome, if you where where the rafters are and the speakers are right there. Yeah, you know you're high when your speakers are directly in front of you, and that's that's how you know. And you can see through

the girders down. That's your high. And they play those if there's an annoying song in the culture, it's part of their game program. Is that it especially on that. But I gotta tell you they those fans were and it's all the way from from introductions until the end of the game. Now, when the Buccaneers were making a bit of a comeback, it got a little quiet, but then they came back strong. It's very strong. It also got very subdued when Jamis got hurt, which is a shame.

And we have found out, unsurprisingly having seen it happen, that it's probably ending, which nobody wants. No, no, you can, you can, um, you can root against your rivals, but you you don't root for injuries. And we all know him, we hate to start again, and you're happy for him in that regard, other than when they play the Bucks. But um, yeah, you know it's real shame. You know

it's funny, not ha ha funny, but a comment. Um, after the first couple of series, we went into commercial break and I made a comment, I said, I'm really getting concerned because Jamie seems to be like he really wants to run and that's a good way to get hurt. And then we came back and yes, so the crowd was understandably subdued to that you lose your starting quarterback to what looks like a pretty bad injury kind of quieted down the place, and then the Bucks had the ball.

It's tied at seven. Jamis is out of the game. They're on their backup quarterback who hasn't thrown a pass in like three seasons, but he was a starter before. But I still this guy that hasn't thrown a pass. So all of the picture, you're you're sad for Jameis ball. That picture looks pretty good for the Buck. Across midfield, we got a chance to take the lead. The place is subdued. Then two out of the next three Bucks offensive snaps were turnovers, and that changed the whole game.

Now I thought that might be it, like we may not come back from this because it was just such a drastic change, But we've got Tom Brady and he comes back all the time, so we actually did. Then sees the momentum back and got and had the lead, just couldn't get the defensive stop and it didn't help the penalties we had him they would have been in a fourth down at about where it would be like a fifty something yard field goal or they go for it on fourth down. So and we had the lead

after our field goals, we were in good spot. And then the which penalty was that it was the downfield hold call on Ross Cockrellers and obviously and it was a hold. It was a hold. I didn't really see the unfortunately they called it because the play wasn't near it at all. There was nothing there. It wasn't like, oh, here comes the ball and I held him. Yeah, you know how one of my biggest axes to grind is um I wish that there was replay of roughing the pastor.

And by the rules, both of the roughing the pastor calls we got were legit. Ye you know, I think that's the gill Gholston when he really did hit him late. Well, in fairness and fairness to William, I thought he just didn't realize the pass was out. That's why, because he kept now that that particular play, yes, you have to call because he was late. Because he was late. However, he didn't have his helmet on, and you have to

ask yourself why didn't he have his helmet on? And that's because the offensive lineman had his hands the hands to the face call and pushed the helmet off his head. But we'll just kept going. So he probably had no idea, had no idea. That's the impression I got for because, for one thing, the last player in this whole team that would be a dirty player's wal Golston. Yeah, no, no, and he finished the play because he did not know. And the thing was there wasn't It wasn't like you

you could tell the play was over with. It was just so quick. So and I I but it is a worthwhile penalty. It is. It had to be thrown. It had to be thrown. However, I think they missed. It should have been offsetting pen off, saying that that still would have erased of the interception. And then the other one was hands to the face, which I usually want to write off as an accident. I don't think you go knowing the rules. I don't think anybody goes

back there trying to swat at the guy's face. But I guess you just had to be more careful, would be Bruce Arian's point, especially he when he as he says, they scout every crew, and this crew calls the most roughing the pastor penalty, so you know you can't get away with it. And they had talks and eatings about that that you but I think we're talking about this in the Hawaii, not you and I, but Chris King and I from UH Community Communications. I want to call

them pr but now they're called pr Uh. There is just something about when the Bucks go to play the Saints, it's like they get more jazz more. They make mistakes. Even though they talked about all week about how they have to be in control, we're not going to do that correct and it happens. And um that was interesting too.

And um Bruce arians radio show, he made a comment that he was most disappointed, of course the penalties and the turnovers, but even more so giving up the lead after you got the lead in the fourth corps and part of that was because of penalties though, So I didn't finish that thought, and you brought up Chris King. I was saying. My extra grind is, Um, the wish we could review Roughing the show or his and I agree with them completely is that every defensive holding call

is five yards and an automatic for down. And there are just situations where it's just too punitive of a penalty. Yeah, give them the five yards and let him run another plate. But on third and sixteen the quarterbacks rolling this way, not even looking towards the guy. Yeah, he committed a penalty, so throw the flag. But it shouldn't be an automatic first down. And this is not a Bucks thing. This is just total Why why are you giving up? Why are you giving them a first down plus five yards?

Give them the five yards and move on? Yeah, when we're and if five yards is enough for a first time, then they earned it. Otherwise they still get another play in their five yards closer. It's just defensive holding, which can you can probably call it almost every snap if you want to. Well, yeah, so it's I agree with Chris on that one. I wish they would change that. I don't think they ever will so, but but it it.

You know, you just have to be more disciplined. There was a lot of aggressive this, There was a lot, but you know, there has to be a There was a taunting there was, which is easily avoidable obviously. I just the reason I just okay, the reason why is is what are you gaining by that? What are you gaining? I'll say this, there are players who are part of their game is being very talked. They talk a lot, they talk, they talk smack, sure, And I've never been

that way. When I played much, much, much, much, much lower level sports. I was never a trash, probably because I wasn't always confident, got you. So it's just something that's ingrained in their style of play. So and there's a lot of players out there in the field. They are drawn back and forth. So you just at some point though, you have to realize when you're about to take it too far. Well, you can, you can jaw back and forth, but you can't stand over somebody. After

as soon as you do that, you're getting the flag. Now, I will say I didn't think it was being called both ways, but it always feels that way when you're on the wrong right. But you see the taunts because you describe that's what players do. However, again, if you bend over, you're gonna get the flag. You guys stand there and talk to your other guy and go, boy, I really whipped his button there, you know, right walk away as you're saying, and they know that it's just

the heat of the moment. I can't get too mad, no, but you can. You can when you're wrecking up that many penalties. And unfortunately Devin White, who had like forty five yards three different fifty and that and that is you know, well, the coaches will will obviously make their callings, but he's also a great player. Well, no question, um so, Jeff, there's been a shot fired in the NFC playoff race.

You see the news, uh with um Miller going to Don Miller to the to the Rams, which you have, which I find interesting because I thought the Rams were pretty good defensively, Well, they are good, but I think the key thing note here is what Bruce was saying last week when he was asked about the Saints defense, and he says, it's the best eleven that we're gonna face.

So he was basically saying they're good. All their everybody's good. Now, the Rams have some superstars, Aaron Donald and Jayla Ramsey chief among them, but maybe they're not quite as strong. One to eleven and I know it's more than eleven because you have nickelbacks, but you get the point. Sure one to eleven on the field at any given time. He feels that the Saints are stronger. So the Rams have a good defense. They definitely do, but they could

use another passwords. I mean, most teams could. So now you got Aaron Donald in the middle, who always makes things great. Look what happened for guys like Leonard Floyd and um the guy that went to the Falcons this year. I can't think a name right now. They they have disappointed numbers and they come play with Aaron donalds in any career years and they get signed somewhere else and they're back to where they were. So now you have Aaron donald making life easy for not only Leonard Floyd

but Von Miller. I don't know if Von Miller is seventy eight percent of him at his peak. That's a big move. And they gave up second and third round draft picks. But the Rams never've never had a draft pick under their current management that they didn't want to get rid of as soon as possible. You realize they don't have their one, two, three, four or six round

draft picks next year. They just don't care those like, we'll use those those assets to get the guy we want right now, as opposed to using those assets in next spring and hope and I you know, there's you can see both sides. They've taken it to the absolute extreme. I mean they I don't think they've made a first round picking like five years, and they won't for like

three more years. And I think in the long run, it's hard to do business that way, in part because and the von Miller thing doesn't really apply because the Broncos are paying like nine million of his nine and f million dollar salary or something, and they and I think he's a free agent at the end of the year. So the Rams basically traded second thro round picks four half a season of von Miller. But if you win a Super Bowl out of it, then it was Yeah.

But what I was gonna say is that a lot of guys, like when you trade for Jalen Ramsey, Yeah, you get a guy that you already know is established great player, but you also get his salary. And if you hit on a first round draft pick, like say the Bucks did with Devin White or Via that, you've got four or five years of relatively controlled salary for a really good player. It's just you won't necessarily hit.

They take the shirt thing. You know, work the hour up whoever they can, and you know, they'll just keep building the roster through trades and lower round draft picks and undrafted free agents and whatever. And I mean, I agree they're a prime Super Bowl contender right now. Yeah. I saw Sean mcveigh's uh interview about it, and he said that, um, you know, it was kind of developing over for a week and didn't really think it would happen.

It couldn't, you know. But because it became available, it was something that they sat down and looked at and said, yeah, this is something that we should do and this is going to help us, this is going to put us in a better position. And now are the Brinkles gonna keep selling it? Of course they only got what they've got a few hours at five minutes I left, But you immediately think saintany a quarterback teddy bridge Water was

pretty good. Right, kind of makes some sense, right, Well, you would think, right unless they unless they're really sold on um, I think when Taysom Hill gets back, he gets the job. Well yeah, well he's coming back from concussion protocols. He's been out three games. Are you got to be pretty soon? Yeah? But the problem there is is if you you know, like anything else, um with you know, if you're coming back from a concussion protocol,

you're more prone to a concussion sooner. So it could be something I guess they're trying to figure it and figure it out partially, uh, making that even more so is the fact that they use him in non traditional ways. So he's that's how he got hurt trying to make a diving catch. That's how I got his concussion. So maybe they would tone down that bit of it. And yeah, you're right, they could stick whatever. But but what does he do though? He runs, that's he's he's gonna run.

He's gonna run. But happen What happens when you run? You? I mean, don't design plays that where he's the Receiver's my point. Yeah, um, speaking of being receivers and stuff, I thought dark trick play. Almost the receivers were open. I can't believe we were going to run a trick. It was good, it was a good it was a good defensive read though, so Leonard was gonna throw it back to Tom. Okay, that was that would have been exciting. But then I guess he saw that's a risky pass

and then the whole play fell apart. But I'm glad we tried something. I think that was the play that um I want to say that was the play that the Saints used against us with jamis not exactly and also similar to the New England. Um, well, they had a receiver throwing the ball and ye haven't did this one. We're throwing it back to the quarterback. When Jamie through the touchdown against US in the playoffs, Um, I thought

that was tossed to him. It was, but it was I believe they gave it to a receiver like tray Kawan Smith or something like that on an end around and it might been Smith that caught the past and then he pitched it to James. All right, But anyway, I was fun. I was fun to watch. Yeah, I'm glad. I'd love to see it. I wish we'd do more of it. I mean, you can't do them all the time,

but sprinkle them. Yeah, And that was interesting because again, uh, during BEA's radio show, he was saying that it's something that they have been practicing. You know, you practiced it for like four weeks and you go, okay, we're good, We're now we can we can call it in a game if the right opportunity arises. And he thought that, uh, Byron Lefferich made a great call at that time, like this that was a perfect time to do it. I didn't hear the show. Did He also say that Linner

made a good decision not to throw it. I didn't elaborate that far well. In any case, As for the Rams, the reason we're talking about the Rams even though we don't played in weeks ago, is that this NFC playoff picture. I was writing about this yesterday. Um, okay, So the Bucks right now after eight games or six and two, they're a half game ahead of New Orleans at five and two. You know where those two teams stood after eight games last year, same place, exactly the same point.

And yet did you feel at six halfway through last year that we were considered prime Super Bowl contenders? The often Tom Brady in the office was still trying to really get jailed. No, that was because we we took a took a hard loss against Chicago, and then the Kansas City game didn't exact well. That was after we got to six and two. We lost and we lost our first game in New Orleans, and we lost to Chicago, and we had won three in a row to get to six and two, and then the next game would

be the Faithful Science blowout, So you feel great? I don't remember feeling like we were. We were the favorites to win the NFC at that time we're back in the same position right now, six and two, and now we're the defending champs, and we're still in first place in our division. And it should feel if the defending champs are six and two and in first place in our division, that's a prime Super Bowl contender, and we are.

But the NFC is so top heavy that you'd be hard pressed to find a consistent, consistent on who the real clear cut favorite is. I don't think there is one. I would say the Rams are right up there with us, and of course we're we have the fourth best record in the in the conference now, so I'm making a bit of a leap. I say, I still think we're one of the top I think we're I think it's us in the Rams personally, maybe the Packers next. I have to say, you gotta give credit to the Packers.

They didn't look good their first game, but after and they play. They won in Arizona, and with like half the receivers on the COVID list, and they've had their defensive coordinator on the COVID and they've had a ton of batories too. They've had a lot of injuries um and significant players, which what's so scary is that the NFC is so strong right now that you almost you almost feel like you have to win your division because if you don't, it's gonna be slim picking and you

could have a great record and not make it. Right now. If the playoffs started right now, the Bucks would be the four seeds, so they have there's only one by so they would be the third of the three teams that get to play at home, and that means they would play the first of the three wild card teams, and that would be the Rams. So what you could get for winning your division is the fourth seed and a game against one of the best teams in the NFL.

Because the Rams and Cardinals are both seven and one, and I saw the standing side of the Cardinals, so they must have something. I think they beat the Rams, so they got a hybrid run right now. But you got the Cardinals and the Rams of seven and one, the Packers at seven and one, the Cowboys at seven and one, we're at six and two, the Saints are

five and two. That's six teams right there. I know seven make it in, but I think all six of those teams are gonna be there at the end, you know, And I think the the part that got me about losing again to the Saints. I just thought that if you could win that game, you'd be in great shape. You pretty much locked it up because two and a half, you do and a half ahead. They got to play this week. You're off, so you could play the Falcons and they're probably too crazy to back, but they could

be three. They could be. So the worst cases they're the best case is three. Worst case there too. The two game lead is pretty good, very good, and nine games ago, and so that's kind it would have been a big win. It would have been And I thought we had it there for a minute. I did think, and I think you said this, Oh and we haven't done our favorite thing, which is my little gimmick, your

favorite thing, oh, my favorite thing in the game. I like, it was pretty cool to see, uh, Mike Evans beat Marshall more for the touchdown, because that's not only my I'm gonna add to that. Not only does he beat him for a touchdown, but there's a penalty on the play and he still beats him. He's getting tackled and he still catches that. That's really beating someone that no. The Saints can't call Lattimer and Evans a win this time, but it's not really a loss for the most part.

Yither because he only got targeted four times. The point of putting Lattimore on it, Yeah, I give you that. But I also loved Chris Godwin's catch and then uh stiff arming the guy on the sideline. He got some kind of angry runs. Oh yeah he did from the NFL NFL network. Yeah, but I mean just how he like it looked like he was he breaks the tap, goes through and then he yeah, just that old. Is that the play where he got yes? Correct? So that

was a really good game. Yeah. I enjoyed that well, and we also should I know, we're talking about those catches, but Cyril Grayson catching that was the second catch of his entire career, his first touchdown obviously. The first catch was a three yarder in two thousand nineteen. He says he grew up about ten miles from the Superdome. Wow, So that's pretty cool that he got his first catch and he became the seven player in the regular season

and overall to catch a touchdown pass from Tom Brady. Yeah. Well, what I loved is that he was just so wide open. He I mean, just do you talk about a guy being a burner? Just unreal. I don't know what that is. Um. Yeah, So but that's funny because they were like he says that that's usually a runoff route, which I'd take to mean it's drawing a defender or horrifully more than one deep to try to get one of these other guys open. And so he doesn't really expect the ball to come

to him. I mean, he's gonna run a round as it is, right, and he was given credit for running it well but he um, but he said, oh, you're fine. I kicked a wire, he said. Um. You know, he's being asked multiple questions about it, and he's like, well, you are the burner. He goes it was blown coverage. He'd be as fast as you want, but you're not open by twenty yards. I mean it was it was like everyone like, oh my gosh, you like waiting for the ball. Yeah yeah, and I um. They said that

Bruce said that they doubled. It looked like they doubled, and he hadn't looked at the film yet that this isn't true, but they doubled. Both Mike and Chris and just left. They were like him whatever, yeah, yeah, whatever you think of the other guy, you don't leave him. You don't let him run thirty years. So that was pretty cool. That was great. But that and and what I the other thing I liked is being down what was it to seven or what was it to seven?

Three to seven? Uh? And then um coming back that was good coming back and coming back quickly, scoring two touchdowns in the third quarter, getting yourself really squared. I mean, come on right there. I don't like to um. I I don't like I've said this before. I don't like the second guess play calls because that's easy to do any time play doesn't work all that was a terrible goal. Sometimes it's it's a good call and bad execution. But I wish we had something that worked a little better

up for that two point. Oh. I was just about to say, if you get that two point conversion, it's a different game. It's a tie game. When they kicked the field long and then um, presumably you're not trying so hard to push it that down the field so fast like Tom was. And and maybe he doesn't throw that interception because all you need at that point is the field goal? Sure, well you needed was the field

goal anyways, but oh that's true. Yeah, but but I think it gets played differently simply because it's a you don't lose if you don't see you're right, and maybe you're not as amped up and maybe you're not as getting those penalties. So I I don't know, but yes, I thought the two point conversion was I think that kind of might have been as they kind of really deflated them, because is if you you know, you scored, okay, and they need two point conversion, now you you're just

implying your will on. Yeah, it would have been a different field for sure, and it could have gone differently, but it didn't happen. But hey, you know, at the end of the day, it's the scoreboard, dotter. What else one thing you gotta do. I I don't like the Saints anymore. I mean that's obvious when you when you get beaten and beaten in games that just don't feel good, you know. And they're the new Eagles. Yeah so, and we did overcome them to win the Supper Bowl last year,

but now we have to do it again. But you have to admit that they're a well coached team. Yeah, when we were walking out, I was getting some of that uh um, you know, fans like we beat you, we beat you, and you know, I just can't help myself sometimes. And my thought was I all I said was, yeah, you guys are awesome in the regular season. And looked at me and he goes, oh, yeah, right, I mean it like you guys, You're right, you guys are awesome

in the regular season. Go ahead, keep winning those games because if if listen, if all I gotta do is win one, that's kinda like back when you couldn't win in California and the only yeah, yeah, yeah, And if you're gonna win, you want to see those things until they're not. Yea. But they are a well coached team, very well. Look at the first interception c J. Gardner Johnson, who's speaking of people that sometimes taunting penalt so but

they managed to. I'm sure that he was talking plenty of crap but didn't do in a way that drew a taunting penalty. Um. He his interception, he was covering Tyler Johnson who was going deep and he fell off that route. That's why he was there, That's why he was unexpected by the quarterback that a player would be there. You know, he's not supposed to be there. He's supposed to be following Tyler Johnson. But he made a very

good play. Somehow I figured out where Tom is gonna throw with it and fell off his guy and was the unexpected defender there. I think that's the result of good coaching at good coaching, and someone was watching film. And the Buccaneers are also very well coached. Um So, but there's not wrong with admitting that the Saints, as much as I'm tired of them and I hate their stadium,

are very well coached. Yeah, it's a good and that shows also when a you're winning with very different types of quarterbacks, because James Winston isn't anything like Drew Brees and Trey Trevor Simeon north Western Grad isn't anything like James Winston. I um and they still continue to do well. Sure, I agree with be a the Rams game hurt more because they beat the Bucks. The Rams beat the Bucks, and this particular game against the Saints, not taking anything

away from how well the Saints played. The Bucks beat the Bucks, or at the very least the Bucks believe they beat the Saints can feel like they want Bucks believe they beat but you look at that, and so maybe it is the coaching to get underneath their skins to be able to create those penalties. Maybe I don't.

I don't know, but that was It was interesting because, uh, when when the game was over with, we were discussing it and Dave, Dave Moore made a comment and he said, you know how good this team is when you complain like that and still almost wind and the Superdome and I know, I don't feel bad right now. Of course it was funny too because we were talking about how everybody, you know, when you lose a game like that, everybody

you know, the world's following, everybody's this and that. And we were on the plane flying back, um, and we were looking at I showed Dave at a tweet someone was complaining about us losing, and um, Dave looks at me and he goes, I've never been six and two. He goes, I played thirteen years with the Bucks and

I never was six and two. He goes, I got I got to five and two, but seven for example, yeah, but then never six severs and and so he he was like because he left one year before the Super Bowl season when we went six and two, and he's he was like you just um, um, you know, people forget you. And that's the problem now, is that at one time you go, when your team's not playing well, you go, oh, just be competitive. So then you become competitive. Just get to eight and eight, then just get to

or just get to the playoffs. Well, you win a super Bowl, so you know what the next thing is, you better win another super Bowl or your And but that's fandom and I love it. That's fine. It's fine. And also I'm glad that the expectations sure. So I mean it's sometimes it does suck to read a tweet, you know, you know, especially if it's worded in a certain way. Um, But then you realize, well, it's good that should expect this team to be better and that that we got to a point where that is the

result you should be expecting. And and personally, I I was more irritated over the penalties than than the loss. So I'm surprised to hear you say that. Okay, so you described the Rams game are two losses. The Rams game as the Rams beating us and the Saints game as the Bucks beating themselves correct and first saying the Rams won't hurt more. I would think one where you beat yourself hurt well more. I I should, I should say that was the wrong term hurt death. I think

it hurt. Are you hurting over there, Jeff, I am. I'm still irritated by it. I am still irritated. But but the Rams game is it was a bigger loss except for the fact that there is no one. Saints is a division game, so when you're trying to beat the Saints to win the division, it's a more important game. But hopefully this is coming in at the right time. It's a bye week, it's time to reflect, it's time to retool, it's time to think about where you're at.

And you're not at the halfway point because there's nine games left. Um, it's good. It is the half of point of the season, though, because this is the ninth week of eighteen weeks season, so you would know that in a way mathematically, that's the one good thing about this new seventeen. But schedule the only good thing, but the one thing that everybody has to realize. You got to you got a long stretch. Now you've got nine games that's a lot before you even get to the playoffs. Yeah,

but hopefully there'll be some reinforcements coming back. I think Carlton Davis and Sean Murphy, Bunting and Scotty Miller at some point Antonio Brown, hopefully Rob Gronkowski. So apparently while recovering from the ribs, he developed a back issue that was what was keeping him out, and then he tries to play and has back spasms that can't play. But you would think two weeks will help. Would would you know more about back injuries than I do? But um,

back spasm seems something you can overcome. The one thing is if you've never had back problems, which you kind of look at people with back problems and shake your head, well, I know, but but you know, you get up and it having back issues and having uh you know, surgery to correct those back issues. I mean a whole bunch of things. Um, you will do anything for the pain

to go away. And I mean if I don't, I don't know if you remember I was having such bad like when we were beyond beyond the team plane, I couldn't sit down until we're just about the land because it hurts so bad. And so you know, you function and you live with the pain. But I can't play football, you know. Oh I remember I went fishing feeling kind of bad, and I remember saying, today, I go, how did you play like this? How did you know? You know? You pop along and three weeks later you're you're on

the you're on the field. But make sure you understand that. I have always known how a back injury has got to mess with absolutely everything. You're trying to do, every single thing you want to do. You can't put your socks on. Yeah, like you you I there were times that I would lay on the floor to get my sock on. I mean, you know, I've had and and like, uh, when the knees bad, that sucks, and it can be hard to move around. But I'm sitting down. I'm fine.

I can sleep most of the time. Back thing to me, my mom had a neck issue at one time, and so it's like neck and upper back. And when she had surgery, it freaking changed her life. There was so much she could do that you couldn't do before. What happens is you make compensations for and so and then you're now, all of a sudden, you're free yeah, you're you're yeah, it is. Uh. But but the fact that he played and then tried to play, I I understand that,

so he wanted to play. Well, yeah, I think sometimes I think what happens Um in that particular instance. You know, you want to be part of it, and you think you're ready to go, and so you try. But you know, maybe perhaps they should have held him out. Yeah, I think that's the way Bruce Fields. Now you um, you mentioned that it's the bye weekend, time for guys to rest and recharge. Uh what about you? What are you're by week plans? Uh? I don't think. I think I'm

playing golf, not how my back feels good. I don't care about golf. Not for you. Yeah, just kind of uh, not really doing anything. Just I mean working for a few days. You know, I may take a couple of days off. You take them some time off and then do the weekend. So probably may have four days. I like the bye week. Um. Talking to Stephen lynch Um who does a lot of videos on the website, like in the Current, and he and I were both agreeing that it's a good week to get to work on

some big things that are hard to do. When everything else is going on. So it's a really good week. And I'm not trying to act like a workhol day. No, no, I've probably not come in on Friday or then. But um, but it's a nice week to to get some concentrated work on some things that you you know that and make it easier for you in the weeks too. Well, the big projects that you have going down the road, you're not you're not already thinking about the next game

and all this other stuff. You get it, you get a breathing because next week you're back into the game. It's you know, it's it's like you think, wow, you got two weeks, we've or your game, but you don't. You you basically have this week and okay today, so it's almost over. You know, I've been wrapping up everything and so have you over the Saints game. So by the time you get to Thursday you would start or

Wednesday you start thinking of your next game. So yeah, it's it's a few Yeah, I've just you know, it's um, um, you know, we've been on the road a lot, you know, the last few weeks. So that's I'm I'm happy just to be able to chill so that's that's my game. I mean, unless I really suck at golf, and you know, then I think, why did I do this? You're doing that on Saturday? No, No, that's gonna be Thursday. Okay,

you're gonna go do that Thursday. I think Ennsbrook, Well, I don't know much about golf, but that's a nice place, right Yea. I'm gonna get together with the Communication department where little a little and we know how you love golf. I'm not I'm not upset about I would have said, no, I know why you didn't even come into play. You didn't even come in. Hey, I was just having the

conversation off. You know, I'm thinking about playing golf. Scott Smith did not come up and steam we're looking for forth. Who could it be? I was just happy to be included on the dinner plans in New Orleans because if there is one good thing, where did you guys go? We went to a place called which I think is maybe French for pig or something or pork. It was good. It was good. It was Cajun food. There was some we had some really good oyster, a rabbit dish. That

was That was Saturday night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was good. Oh someone did say they had rabbit. Yeah. I think Turner and I both think, Okay, it good. It was very good. What did it taste like? Well, the rabbit wasn't to me, wasn't even the star of the dish. There was a lot of other stuff going on, and there was dumplings, and I'm sure everybody's just dying to here about what I ate for dinner on No, Well it's you. Listen. There's one thing about New Orleans. You

want great food, all types of great food. I can't tell you. I mean restaurant. I walked to the restaurant, which is about a mile away, past so many rest fronts that I was also interested, including Emeralds, which I'm sure I could not have gotten. I looked in there and could see that I was severely underdressed. It was it was hard to find any place to unless you did, I mean, unless you're being proactive, and the people that

you went with are very proactive, so they made reservations. Um. Yeah, Like I was walking, I got to the restaurant we were eating at, and I wanted to make a joke because on the walk there, I passed a place called mothers that oh I've eaten there. Getting there that said the side out side said world's best baked ham. No fine, if it's true, but baked ham isn't something that's gonna draw me, right. So I get there and I make that joke, and Christo, I wasn't beating there. Sometime it's awesome,

it's great, and he started telling me it's great. So you can't even make a joke about a bad restaurant because they don't have bad you no mothers. Usually there's a line around there, around the block. There wasn't this time. If I had known that, I would have maybe made a detour and gone, yeah, because two dinners. One more thing about the Superdome before we're done with this. By

the way, we should have set top. I thought you're gonna I thought when you were talking about great meals, I thought you were going to talk about the halftime. It is so upsetting that that used to be one of the good things about about going to the Superdome was there was good food. It was like Cajun food. It was like what you expected. It wasn't like low quality.

Was good stuff. And and now before the game they have hamburgers, hot dogs, and they did have red beans of rice which was pretty good, and Hammerson and hot dogs which ran out immediately, and prepared sandwiches. And I know that probably a lot of this has to do with COVID, but and then at halftime it was cookies and chips, like, come on, this was the one thing you were good at before we we um. I have to say we did veteran move. I mean I picked up on it. You brought your own. No, what had

happened was Dave came back. He had a hamburger. He had a hamburger, and then he left it and he came back with a box and I said, what is that? He goes, it's a veggie rap for halftime. I went, oh that, you know what, that sounds like a good idea. So I walked down and I got one and and not even knowing that at halftime there was going to be zero food, you know what, I had that idea. But at halftime, at halftime, I'm like, I should have

grabbed a freaking sandwich. Yeah, but again I didn't know, like you assume every restaurant, every uh press box press box should go to in the NFL has a separate layout, but at half time. But you know how you know how bad this sounds. Okay, you're ready, you're talking about the pregame meal, and then an hour and ten minutes later, an hour and a half, it's more than that because you don't need you don't eat at kickoff, all right,

So I didn't need anything all day? Okay, so okay, yeah, no I didn't either, and you walked so yeah, well, um yeah, but that is funny is is you know a couple of hours later. I mean, if you're well, I guess if you eat breakfast at nine and I didn't eat. Yeah, So what I was saying was, um, this is the bye week, and so I should have said it up top. But I mean, obviously if you clicked on it, you know we're not having a player.

I guess because they're all gone. There's nobody here. They had to come in for treatment yesterday, and then it's Tuesday through Sunday they're off, so they're really I mean, we presumably could have had somebody zoom in, but we're not gonna bother them during their minds now and and before people go after a game like that, should you be practicing those naysayers. According to the um NFL p A laws, you have to have four days off. Two

of them have to be Saturday and Sunday. So basically b A is giving them a little extra like two extra days. Yeah, but they're back in on Monday and they bonus day and they can get a bonus, you get an extra game, you actually get more practice than usual. But also letting them rest is also very important at this stage of the game. Yeah, very much so. So, So anyways, we wanted a guest. We will be doing your fan questions and we don't We don't even have

to break. I'm not saying you now. Can you give me a minute, I'm not done yet. We can talk a little longer because we don't have a guess. And well, when I said at the top, you're in for an hour of buckstock, we usually go more like an hour and a half. Yeah, yeah, what you're at about forty two minutes? Really? Yeah, So it's just such a pleasure

to talk, you know, it's so much fun. Yes, I just had to say last week when we were talking about how anything could happen in the NFL and things surprise you all the time, and last week it was, who's good. They got beat Baltimore got by Cincinnati, so we're like, oh, in Cincinnati's for real? Now what happens? They get beat by the Jets, which destroyed a lot of suicide pools or survivor pools, r E T s, Jets, Jets, just the Jets. But the Jets with their rookie quarterback

injured and out why starting a guy he named Mike White. Yeah, I didn't say to the US thing. Didn't he go to USF? I know he went to finished up at like some small school, I guess some con you know. I saw his postgame speech. I liked it. He gave a speech to the locker room. They gave him the game ball, of course, and he said, um, this belongs to everybody basically, and then he said, I want to I want to thank you for having trust in me. So the guy, which I thought was pretty cool, the

guy had never well. I mean, it's a good point because the Jets traded Donald and they drafted Zack Wilson made him the start it right away. But this isn't like all of a sudden everybody realized, oh my god, they don't have any kind of backup you've ever heard of. That was a storyline right from the beginning. It was like, if the Jets, if Zack Wilson doesn't go well or gets hurt, who do they have? And it was Mike White and somebody else I can't remember that. Almost nobody

had ever even heard of. He never made a start before Jeff his first career start has been found around the leak for about four years. He's been with Dallas Um. He lost out the the battle to Cooper Rush to back up Dak Prescott and now Cooper Rush also started in one. But Mike White goes in there, throws for four or five yards and what four touchdowns or something, and they beat the Bengals, who were the hottest thing in the a f C going into the weekend, and

Mike White was amazing. You can't write to see the backup quarterbacks all one. I know. It was a big day. Now. What happens too, though, is now do you have tape on the guy? You get his tendencies, you know what's going on. I don't know. Let's good for the Jets though, because Taylor Heineke last year was awesome in the playoff game against US, and so therefore he had a chance to win the job. Didn't fits beat him out for him,

and then Fitz got hurt. Heineke and I know we're playing them next, so I'm not doing any He struggled. He he may be great against us again, and he was great last year, but he's mostly struggled. You know, um uh. The guy with a mustache from Jacksonville that they traded to Philly, Minshew, Carden Minshe he had a couple of really impressive starts and then and then he was Gardner Minshew. I mean mostly a lot of these guys have a good game, but it doesn't really tell

you what they're death. They're going to be great for their career. I'm rooting for this Mike White guy. I hope this wasn't a flute, but it could end up being a but it could be. What you know in New York, it's going to be a quarterback controversy for sure. If he wins another game. Well, if he it's two in a row and they want to bring particularly since their head coach did not say, oh, we're definitely going back to Zach. When he's back, he's like anything could happened. Well,

he's trying to light a fire. Plus I mean they're not going anywhere. I mean it was there was a second win there, like two and six or two seven or two and six. I guess the camp seven after eight weeks November and two and six, not six and two like the buccaneersmber tying our best start ever and believe happy hard to believe it's November already. This season is rocketing by like a oh, what one last thing? I have to say that the Saints fans really got

into the Halloween spirit. I know, but it was, it was. It was pretty good. It was pretty good. I didn't even finish because I said I had one more thing to say about the Superdome, and then you got me talking about the stupid meals and then I'm calling bs on their noise meter. I don't believe that for a freaking minute. But you know that's not real. So if you don't know, First of all, they claimed that they said an indoor record at some point by hitting a

hundred thirty point four decibels. Fine, probably true. Whatever, So they have a noise meter that they used to fire the crowd up, and it's supposedly you see the numbers going up and down and it's eighty nine now of all the two. Okay, it was at one point like a hundred twenty three or something, and which is close to their supposed records. It wasn't that crazy loud. I've heard it louder than that. I think that whole noise meter is just bull. It's not at all measuring the noise.

They're just running it up and down. They they may have a noise meter, but it's probably not attached to the video board. Okay, yeah, it's a graphic. But but they may have a noise meter. Yeah, they got They've got a freaking djack. We're spending it up. Hey, we have a we have a noise meter at I never noticed that. Do we do that? Yeah? Yeah? Uh? Dan Roy has actually an actual one a graphic now we do have. We do have that. It's the Remember when

you were not allowed to do that by the NFL. Yeah, you everybody always did it, and then they outlawed it, and then a couple of years ago like yeah, whatever, you can do that, and you can only play music at a certain point and it's supposed to end. Yeah that's still true. Is well, it depends on where you're at I always like to say, I remember when the Falcons got busted for piping in noise that it amazed me that it was the Falcons Vikings. Yeah, you're in

the Hubert h Humphrey metroid. Well, well, when you're standing on the sideline and you turn around on their speakers behind you and you're here, you're hearing, you're going, oh, I wonder and yeah, they're getting a little extra help here. But anyway, the mike by that and the horn and the guy on the motorcycle or the the Viking guy. Yeah, we have yeah, but now it's the We're not that annoying,

are we? Captain fears not annoying to other people? And the I'll tell you what gets everybody, And it made me laugh. Cannons, Yeah, and it and uh the Saints radio engineer he's been coming to Raymond game standing for like fourteen years, okay, and he said to me, hey, can like on the timing sheet, can we like, hey when it's like, say, when it's gonna happen and then like give uh sixty second warning that cannons are gonna be fired. A lot of people have always been surprised,

we don't give a warning. No, But I will say this, I have been going to that stadium since and the cannons still get What Jef is talking about is the pregame test shore they can test the cannons, And what you want to be careful of is don't have your head underneath the counter when it goes off. Probably don't want to be taking a sip of coffee. You know,

it gets you every time. But the best part is when someone new comes and you know, you know, okay, sometimes I feel glance, yeah, yeah, you kind of get a feel for okay, here it comes. Yeah yeah, so okay. So for visiting fans, our cannons could be our things. Ye. So, I mean, obviously you're when you're a visiting team, you're annoyed by things that the home cross the whole point. That's the reason why you do though. But the Saints

dumb songs. I hate them. I used to hate the freaking horn at the Metrodome, but I would love it if I was a Vikings fans because it's kind of cool. Well, and that's and that's just it. We're supposed to hate it and they embrace it and they love it, and that's the whole point. That's that's the sat I will say the Saints fans absolutely embrace everything about what their feet. They embrace all of it. They love all the things.

Like another thing that I think is dumb is there pregame before the game they do this us versus them thing. I think that's very clever. It was clever like once Jeff. So if anybody doesn't know, they'll go like us and they'll they'll have a category like food, which obviously New Orleans is going to be most cities, and they'll show

show the awesome food like a to fa. And then I don't know what they showed for the books, but they showed something great for them and something not so great in the bay, which you it easily turn around. But if I were Saints fan, I probably think that was really funny. Well, it's kind of like a fast fift. It's kind of like our kiss cam, you know we do. I don't like the kiss cam, I know. But then they showed the poor lad they didn't do it this last time. Do you know why we were wondering about

that they can't get a shot. No, I don't know, because they's clearly shot before. Um. Yeah, I'm not sure what developed there. You're being very cageous. I'm just I don't care enough. I'm just saying that, Okay, things change when it when it annoys people. Okay, well, um, I think I get the point now. Um, before we get to the questions, I one more thing to talk about, and that is that Mike Evans scored a touchdown, as we talked about before. And I know where you're going

with this. Okay, you go ahead, and he is went away from dying. Mike Hall stopped one away from and to from breaking the Bucks all time touchdown record. I've been tracking this for a while because I think people are not making a big enough a deal about this.

Breaking your franchise's touchdown record is a huge deal in a very short I didn't talk about this last week now because I was suggesting, hoping that Mike all stuck can maybe be there, and you said he would be there, Yeah, And I was thinking that, Um, I mean there's a good chance he'll tie Mike Ian in Washington. Yeah. I mean I'm the roof from the scores many touchdows. Yeah, I'm not gonna go break the right away. Well, here's

here's the thing. Though, and this is we we had this discussion we being uh communications, I mean, we were talking about this and we're like, okay, we gotta tell everybody that the next touchdown Mike gets, he ties. So we got to talk to Mike about, you know, keeping the ball. Yes, yes, because even in New Orleans, Mike gave his ball. Well, seventy two will be the bigger one. Yeah, And and Mike just gives him away, which is he's

a generous fella. I like it. So he's got set and now sixty nine catches and one where he fell on teammates fumble in the ins and up. The funny thing is if he broken in Washington, it would be kind of interesting because his first big game of his career was in Washington in two thousand fourteen when he was a rookie, had a huge game. We beat Washington. That was the year win two and fourteen, so it was one of our two wins. He had an enormous game.

You're looking for that highlight. So um, I did a little research to write a story in preparation for him breaking the record, and I looked at every team's touchdown leader, which is easy to find because it's in the record

in fact book what we used to call the white book. Um, so I could find every team's lead touchdown leader, and I found that there is only Well Mike isn't there yet, But once Mike gets to be the Bucks touchdown leader, which is clearly happening this year, he will be one of only two active players in the NFL who are the touchdown leaders for a franchise, Really only two active players fit. Larry Fitzgerald was, yeah, he retired. Well, he hasn't retired, he's just not playing. Yeah, well okay, wow,

he didn't claim retire. Man, he's doing radio with Tom Brady. Larry Fisher, old first ballot Hall of Famer. But I think his career is over, So he's he's So it's just Mike when he gets into one other guy, you would you like to hazard a guest or do you want me to just go ahead and one other guy? I'll give you a hint, unless you would rather guess first, give me a hint. He is a leading touchdown scorer for a team, but he is no longer on that team. Who so someone who? Do you want to know her

in it? Yeah? We've said his name already in this podcast, we have who That's a pretty good hint, Jeff, I mean, how many. It's not Mike White, No, it's not Von Miller, it's not Jameis Winston, it's not Teddy Bridgewater. It's uh, it's Brob Gronkowski. He's the Patriots all time touchdowns leader. That was so obvious. I know, I know, but obvious. Sometimes the obvious ones are usually Look, I didn't even

he didn't even. I'm thinking, Okay, it was somebody who is really really good and is no longer on their team. Who would that be? Yeah? But then the second I hope, if you're listening to this podcast, I hope you struggled as much as I did, because you know they were trying to well, I'm just gonna say that's probably what's happening. Probably the majority of the listeners are going, yeah, way to go. If you If I didn't know when you asked me that question, I think I've had a tough

time with it. But the reason that I'm saying that Mike Evans breaking this record is a huge deal that needs we need to make a huge deal about is that it doesn't happen very often, and it hasn't happened very often. There are only of all thirty two, well, there's actually thirty three because Andre Reid and Thorne Thomas are tied for the Bills lead. Of all these thirty three players who are touchdown leaders for their franchises, only eight of the him even played in this past decade.

Most of these records, like the Giants record is Frank Gifford from the sixties, the Frank Yawn. No, I remember that, But wasn't he also a field goal kicker? I don't remember that, But that's not part of this equation. Just talking about touchdowns. Phil Phillies is um Harold Carmichael. I couldn't see that finished in the eighties obviously. You know who San Francisco's is, I'd say Jerry right, Yeah, he's the all time NFL touchdown later and uh his is his last year was too oh no, his last year

was San Franz was two thousand. Um. You know Washington's is Charlie Taylor from the seventies. Yeah, you probably can guess who Chicago's is, Um Gail Stairs. Well, there was a good guest girl. Stairs career was too short. I think he might have set a record for touchdowns in the season. Certainly as a rookie he had a bazillion touchdowns, but it's obviously Walter Baton. Oh well, yeah, you wouldn't have.

I was begging why receiver that that was Green Bays is all the way from a guy who played from forty five and you've heard the name. But I won't expect you to guess that Don Hudson. He's in the Hall of Fame Cleveland's Jim Brown and Finish in the sixties. I mean, really like, this does not. The last time it happened that a guy broke his team's franchise touchdown record was Gronkowski in two thousand and sixteen, and the last time before that was Larry Fitzgerald, and like, I

don't know, two thousand and eleven or something. Because it is a big deal. It's probably the biggest broken record since I've joined this team. Wow, I would say it's the biggest record I've seen fall now. Of course record before all James Wilder, Okay, well, so all start ended up breaking that around two thousand one, so I guess I have seen this before. But then all of a sudden, put set the bar so high because the previous record was forty six. He beat up and said all the

way up to seventy one. So a really really special player who had also signed extra contracts with the Bucks had to come along. How was how many touchdowns did Walter pet They will tell you. I'm just curious. I'm just curious to see where that falls in line with you know, I would have thought, well back then too, it was that was that was the Bears offense. That

was exact it. Now I do acknowledge that seventy one is not one of the highest numbers sure to be a touchdown nyer, but Mike's gonna set that bar presuming he sticks with the Buccaneers for a good number of years. He's not done at seventy two. He'll get it up there, probably do a hundred, and that would be one of the better ones. Like right now, the Bucks record of seventy one, uh, the only ones that are less Atlanta Roddy White with sixty three UM and that's it. That's

oh in Baltimore and probably Houston Baltimore seven. Houston was sixty eight. But both those teams are relatively new speaking, they haven't as many years, so that's not surprising. Um, but there are a lot of teams in the seventy to eighty range, Cincinnati and Buffalo and um well, Jackson Wills fairly, Kansas City's three, Miami's eighty two, New England is eighty, Tennessee is seventy four. That's Eddie George. Um. So it's not an embarrassing record by any stretch. And

Mike's gonna make it one of the better ones. But the biggest ones are obviously Jerry Rice at seven, um Emmett Smith at one and uh Mark Harrison and you and you gotta you gotta remember too, is they played on some really good teams for a long time. Who's Jerry right? Well, he was one of the main reasons

they were. Well yeah, but but you know when you look at my you know how many years Mike was with us, you know, if you look at how many winning years there were, weren't his No, no, right, he had to wait a long he had to wait a long time. Yeah, and that was an offense that you know, if you scored seventeen points, yeah we're gonna win. Well, we're talking about all stutt Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought to talking about Evans because he's done a

pretty no. No, yes, no, I'm talking about Mike. Yeah, you kind of need to clarify if we're talking about I know in my head, I knew who I was talking about, but I always know what I'm talking about in my head, So to all the other people, A lot of people tames, we argue, but it's okay. So I just thought this was really cool. It is I, Um, you want you want to? I don't want to go through the whole list, but do you want me to throw a couple of teams at you to see if

you can guess who they're all time? Sure? Go ahead and the big, big ahead, Pittsburgh, Franko Harris, Very good, very good, very good. I was hoping you would get that one. Um, I have to pick one. I didn't already say, Um, you probably wouldn't get that one. Who is it? Kansas City? I will say that I did guess this one before we looking it up. You were there, yeah, but not when this happened. Um, when I was there was Christian Nikoyaka and very word. I'm trying to think

of who was in Neil Smith? Who was who is big in Kansas? Who is big? In in Kansas City. Let Dawson is the only guy. Well, he's quarterback. Yeah, I know, I know what he is. In case people out there are confused, quarterbacks don't get credit for scoring town They don't. They don't get they get credit for throwing a passing touch ship, but they don't get the points. Who who It's the Priest Holmes. Okay, it was probably gonna be either Priest Homes or the um and Larry Larry.

They had another really good running back after Priest Holmes, Larry Johnson. What about what's one you? Oh, you gotta get this one hands down? Don't say that, you know, I guarantee you'll get this one Detroit And I'd have to say Barry Sandery Sanders. After I said that, I realized, oh, well,

it could have been Calvin Johnson. But it's definitely Barry Sanders, the great, great Barry Sanders, who is always my answer to if you could have if you were starting a team and you were allowed to have one running back in his prime, I'm taking Barry Sanders there. I loved

watching Barry Sanders. Of the players that I've always cherished that I got to see live was Peyton Manning a not Peyton Walter Payton, Okay, and then Barry Sandys played and the fact that on top of his game he walked away, Yeah, he kind of did it, and he kind of you know, yeah, I mean that's good for him. Yeah, it robbed us of some great years kind of like Jim Brown he walked away. But well, Kett Johnson too.

But in fairness, at that time when Jim Brown left, he was getting old for for being a football player, you know, but not really. He was only in his early thirties, I believe. Yeah, he got into the movies, movies move Yeah. So yeah, And you know what I always used to say, too, is that if I used to say this, I don't anymore, is that if I could have one quarterback, the guy that I wanted was Brett Farve. I don't feel that way anymore. I used to say that, and I knew that I did. You

want now Tom Brady. It's Tom Brady, obviously Tom Brady. And I would say that even if he hadn't come to the bucket. But I never even really thought that Brett Farve was the greatest quarterback of all time. But we played them all those years, and he was amazing. It was always the stuff that he did and it always hurt us, but but then you just appreciated him and it was a fun. It was a gun slingery. I think he's the all time interceptions leader. I mean,

but they want a ship toun, Sorry they did. They won a lot of games with him. Wow, mahawn lynch Inner Marshal. Right now, I think there's two weeks in a row that I've dropped the S bomb and I had never done it before, So maybe that means we should move on. I've done expecting. Got some good questions

this week, okay, including one. Remember I think I said last week I was a bit surprised that our our guy from Brazil, Alexander, hadn't sent the question that week, and lo and behold, um he was on holiday, was he? I don't know why, but he clearly noticed it too. So he says, hoy salty ones, I hope this finds you both well. It does, thank you. I hope you're well as also. I'm trying not to overthink this, but I didn't send you guys a question last week and

we lost. Well you know, well it's a bye week, so this doesn't mean well, you do know that on Monday Nights, the Manning brothers do Monday Night Past their Manning cast. Every player that has gone on has lost the next week. The team is like when Gronk was on, the next week, we lost. Tom Brady was on, the next week, we lost. It's like seven in a row. But there isn't a curse. It's it's like the s I curse. So maybe he what about Marston Lynch, he

didn't lose. Uh, well, he kind of did because he lost. No, because he dropped the F bombs matter, But it could. Demandings don't have don't they don't. They have a brother, Cooper Manning, who never played in the NFL. They can't bring him on and have him be the guy that hits the button for the delay button. Yeah, yeah, that could be his job. They might be on delay now. Apparently there's a new Manning coming along, Arch Manning high school superstar. Sure. Yeah, So if you're if you're a

fan of the Mannings, that's great. If you're one of these people talking about our band, you're talking about our buddy Tony, right, I knew you, I do as soon as you said that. I knew it right away. I knew who you were talking about. You know what would make Tony change his mind is if arch Manning went to Mississippi State. Oh yeah, then a question. He'd either have to change his mind or just be torn in half emotionally. He would say that he skipped the generation.

So it's a good I'm gonna have to tell him that he talked about it in his podcast, So we'll listen. Uh, you know, he's up there in Atlanta. We're axe, I do I do were Alex's He's busy, he's giving us advice. I'm telling him where to go and do things. So what are the things you usually do during a bye week? Says Alexander. We know coaches and players go back to film study. Well, the coaches do, the players get arrest,

their tendencies and so on. But is there anything you guys used to assign during this point of the season, used to assign. Well, whatever he's asking is what we do? Sure we kind of already covered that a little bit. Um, we finish up the week, try to take I try to get a little bit ahead on the big project next week. Anything that I can do that will make next week easier. Um, And you know, we'd find time too. I think my wife and I decided we're going to take one of these nights and snot go on the

couch and watch a whole bunch of Ted Lasso. I just got HBO Mexico, so I've only seen the first two episodes I've I've not seen that show, but I heard it's just really terrific. Did you see Squid Game? You should watch that. I finished it fishing the hotel and I'm usually behind on technology, but I love that you can just go to a hotel, go to the Netflix channel, put in your information, and then the Netflix.

You used to have to be like prepared anyway. So yeah, I think we kind of answer that there's nothing special generally, is the is the answer? Yeah, a lot of people try to, you know, take a few days off, go somewhere some you know, we have a number of people, you know, they go home, they go visit family. Yeah, that's a good time to try to get it in. I was sorry, go ahead, I was going to go to beautiful Gainesville, but that guy canceled. Alex Georgia Tech

Club baseball team. You're going to play a tournament in Florida and Florida canceled. Uh so that stinks because you could have got your son. You didn't care about the game. I got you. I wanted to see him pitch, but I also wanted to see him sure that I have to I have to wait till things. Yeah, basically, basically this week is finish up last week. Look at anything that you want to get a head on. And then it's just another reason for me to hate the Gators.

And I should not say that on this podcast because a lot of Bucks fans are also Gator fans. And yeah, and more power to you. But when I got to Florida, I had no allegiance and then I realized that this state is so football mad and most people root for either the Seminoles, the Gators, or the Hurricanes. Hurricanes were hugely awesome at that time. Well, it's the only place that you know where um where they say, um um, yeah, he's kind of a you know, he's not a bad guy.

He's a Gator, you know where they kind of like maybe that he's a null. He's you know, hey, he's a null. He's he's For some reason, I grabbed towards the Seminoles when I got here and so that meant you didn't like the Gators, right, And then there's so many Gator fans that it became fun to just kind of performatively act like the Gate hate the Gators, well to a point where it kind of like both the guys I coach literally with for Gators fans always wearing

all the Gators stuff. But there's so many of them are everywhere. Well what's interesting too is a lot of people are fans of the universities and they never even went to those schools. But you have to remember too that, you know, the state of Florida at one time I had the Miami Dolphins, and so you know, like in your southern which is also why a lot of people around here are Braves fans right before the Rais came the team. And so um, yeah, I mean there's I

get it. Anyway, it's fun to root for something. I don't really know. I hate the Gators. I just like to you, like you just like that watch you can't There's nothing there's nothing better than being on the airplane and watching Turner twist in his seat because his Gators are getting killed. You know, So Okay, that's fun a right, So that was his question. The next one from Mark

in Mason, Arizona. And I'm pretty sure that we've had a question from him before because I remember you asking me if I've ever been and I said, I worked a job there. Mrs Smith and Ryan greetings, Well that wasn't the outcome we were hoping for in New Orleans? Is it me? Or this bye week falling at just the right time? He has, no question, Let's get to that one. I would say, yes, we were talking about

this at lunch. So generally you hope for later bys when the schedule comes out because you have a bigger chance that more guys are injured, and the best thing about the bye week is getting guys healthier, not having to play a game, getting so guys don't miss as many games. Uh. Last year we had the latest bye week I've ever had at week thirteen, and by the time I got there, I remember Bruce arians saying it

was we needed it earlier. So the point being, you can't really know, like probably a week four or five by would have been good for us this year because of the early injuries to the secondary rights a long stretch. So I guess I would say that right in the middle of season is probably the best thing you could hope for, because you don't know if it early is good, if late is good. So right in the middle is pretty good, and you probably gonna have some injured guys

to heal up. So yeah, I think it felt good. I think it fell out a great time, just simply because I think we'll be able to get some people back, and you've got a nine week run before playoffs, so hopefully the same thing happens that happened after the BI week last year. Well, the Bucks never lost again. Hard to repeat that, I'm just saying, but on they are

going to try onto. My real question, which is based on the thought experiment envisioning universe or the Super Bowl thirty seven Bucks could play the Super Bowl fifty five Bucks. Who would prevail in this mythical matchup? More interestingly, how would you approach determining who would win such a game. Obviously, the NFL's rules and effective tactics This guy's a really

good writer have changed significantly throughout the years. Can you think of a cohesive, quantitative approach that could be applied to this or would it simply devolved into yet another rehashed Muhammad Ali versus Mike Tyson barroom debate. Yes, that's a very well ring question there is. I would say he's right, it's just just go you And I think he actually pinpoints why sure he rules are gonna play by it was if you play by today's rules. Uh

the Bucks, Yeah, they probably win. Yes, because the thirties two seven Bucks we have the best defense, one of the best defenses. That you can't play like John Lynch played anymore. You'd be tossed out of the league. It do wonder, though, I do wonder because I think of the ninety nine NFC Championship game, Okay in St. Louis. That's a that's a perfect example of shutting down the Bucks defense. Awesome defense goes in and greatest show on turf. Yes,

so the equivalent of what we have right now. I think our offense right now is probably as good as that one. However, now they did not win nick game. They didn't win the game, but they shut them down. They they had a chance to win the game. Yeah. If I would be willing to bet uh my son's college fund that, if you were to ask, I'm not really willing to bet that. By the way, if you're asked Ryan Day or Warren or Derek, they would be certain that they would win that game, no question, And

I wouldn't. I would be just probably think they could beat anybody. I would be disappointed if they went, yeah, they would have beaten us. I'm gonna ask Rod Day next time. Are you gonna do that that? He was cheez he was in here this morning. You could ask him because yeah, he does. The film which I mentioned is my favorite video. Will well if I remember, if

I can remember, I'll ask him. I just think not just the rules, but just the way the game is played, the talent of the offensive players, the things that have been brought up, the types of offenses and offensive strategies that have come up from the college ranks and are now being utilized. How many r p O s did you see in two thousand and two? Yeah you didn't, Um, I just always you know that was That's a really good question. I just and I think I think you're right.

You can choosing his second example, It's just something that you could debate forever, like Doo Duer is more credit for our Super Bowl? John Gruden or Tony Dungey and Bucks fans are never go next time. The next time we have a Ring of Honor ceremony and all the alum are there, I'm going to bring it up because that's always a good discussion. I just for one thing, do you bet against Tom Brady? I mean, Brad Johnson is and was awesome, but Tom Brady's Tom Brady. Yeah,

you've met against Tom Brady. I don't know about that. Plus, this defense has the capability of playing much like the two thou defense, whereas I don't think as great as Brad was offense, I think our offensive line now is significantly better. Although the offensive line played great in the players, they were kind of thought of as a team's Achilles Hill before the playoffs. In two Michael Pittman was a great pass catching running back and it ran for a

tony yards in the Super Bowl. Keishaw Johnson very good, Keena McCardell, Mike All, Joe Jr. Vicious. But I do think our offense now is better than that offense, and statistically it's not even close. They were like middle of the pack in two THO. We're like one of the best two or three offices in the league and have been for the last year. But yeah, but and the way that the Super Bowl fifty defense played in the Super Bowl was akin to how well the two thousan

Bucks defense played the whole year. So if they could catch that lightning in a bottle, and if it's thirty seven against fifty five and the defense is playing like they did in the last sear Bowl, I don't think the thirty seven team has a chance now. But that's one of those that you could argue that goes against my heart died because I I just think because it was the first one special, I will definitely cherish the

first one more. And that team, well, yeah, and you went so many years of getting beat up and that defense now it's still considered one of the best defenses of all time for good reasons. It was, and we were there for that. The Bucks offense right now is the best we've ever had, and it's phenomenal, but it's also other teams in the league are doing that well. Buffalo's offense is as good as ours, Dallas is probably

is close. The Rams office with mad Stuffers, there's a lot of really good They don't have Tom Brady, but they do have great players. So alright, alright, Okay, another one dear s Dogs. This comes from Phil Schuadron, who is a long time listener and a longer time Bucks fan. I do believe he lives in California because we've that conversation before Halloween comes from All Hollow's Eve, which is the night before All Saints Day. I did know that? Did you know that? Did the schedule makers know this?

They gave us a road trip to New Orleans the night before the biggest day of the year for Saints. All Saints Day is also the day I hate All the Saints because that is every day. It doesn't matter who the Bucks coach is or who the quarterback is. We just played lousy into all in the regular season. Can you explain it? Happy holiday season? Lousey is a bit strong. We played dumb, maybe with the penalties and fundamentally we have issues, but I mean we did also

have four touchdown passes in over four yards. You know, lousy is a bit strong, But there have been lousy games there, that's for sure. I would say I would say it would be undisciplined football we played or or they played two emotional right, Yes, and that's probably the answers to the question. I would also say that the Saints match up very well with us. They have Marshall

landinmore from Mike Evans. They have a very good defensive front that you know, kind of neutralizes a little bit some of the advantages we have with our offensive front against some teams. So it was probably gonna be hard to run the ball. And they were only averaging less than seventeen points a game being scored on, so we surpassed that by right. Yeah, So I mean that is the It was, by the way, just the game in NFL history to end in a score of thirty six seven.

The first one was the Jets Miami game in you did do your research. I did that for a different thing under there. It's funny, He says that because Gene brought Dad up about the schedule makers, did they know, just like they knew last year? Just okay, So every year we try to predict who our first game will be. Uh, we we didn't. I don't even think we bothered in two thousand and twenty because we all knew it was gonna be as soon as we got Tom Brady. It

was gonna be Brady versus Breeds. It was gonna be New Orleans. You could have been here, New Orleans or there New Orleans, but we knew that was going to be this one. Yeah, so they did that on purpose. And they did this on purpose, of course they did. Yeah. Yeah, put it in New Orleans on Halloween. It'll be a huge spectacle and Tom Brady will be there. Yeah. And had had if if if we were going to play New England, if New England was gonna play us in Tampa,

that would have been our first game. We were playing New England because we had to play at home, So we were playing at home, correct, Although I have heard other people argue that, yeah, just having the kickoff game with the defending champions is already a big enough draw, so why waste what's going to be another big draw of the Patriots. But you can put that on a different week. But I mean, the Dallas Cowboys whenever they play as a big draw, So why would you. That's why.

That's why when we did this exercise this year, I predicted Buffalo. I did too. It's funny you said that I did too, because because I wanted an NFC team and an a FC team and they were in we couldn't play Kansas City like the year after Carol, WHOA, that's you're still good? Stop kicking the wire. I'm sorry the year after you know, it sounds weird in my ear. You would never make it on the air with a producer in your headset. I haven't had to do that very often, and I don't know if i'd be good

or not. I'm gonna mess with you next time. You're just gonna end up with a bad show, just hurting yourself. Stop. Don't stop, Scott. Now, you may even forget what I

was talking about. Um, you were talking, by the way, I appreciate that because when we're doing a pregame and halftime shows, I'm standing next to Casey and she's got the producers in her ear and she has to be listening to them while trying to have a conversation with me, And sometimes she has to listen to them and it's hard to keep up with what I'm saying, and so she has to transition in that difficult situation, and she does a great job of it. But um, Buffalo, Yeah,

so they were we couldn't play Kansas City. Like when Carolina and Denver had the Super Bowl, they were playing each other the next year, So it was an obvious in Denver, so it was an obvious first choice. Kan's City is not on our schedule. Next best thing is the team Kansas City beating in the NFC Championship, who everybody thinks it's gonna be a prime contender, and who has an exciting new MVP candidate and Josh Allen. It all made sense to me that that would be the

first game. Well, I just thought it because it was the first game of the NFL and you would have an NFC team and an a FC team, so you're representing the NFL of the season open and have two m VP candidates, and it would be a game people would want to watch. But Nope, they went with Dallas because it was good because Cowboys. So I don't like living in this world, by the way, where the Cowboys are a contender. Again, Yeah, I do like the fact

that I predicted it. So I looked Martin saying, I think the Cowboys were gonna be really good this year, but I don't want the Cowboys to. Well, we'll see how they do in the second half. Hey, dogs, this is the last question. I got four of them. That's pretty good, right, But we've already done three it's gonna

be a long It's good. I hope we cut that one off a little short on the Saints thing, but I just think they they're very well coached, They match up with us well in some very key areas, and um yeah, probably we get all the two psyched up for those games. First, I have to say this is from Sam and Nashville. He's he's emails from to the point. I think I know his last name, like me. Now, he didn't put it on this one. First, I just had to say, I really hate the Saints right there

with you. They are the worst. Well they're not the worst, but plus the loss hurt even more seeing Jamis go down the way he did. That's nice. Hope heals up and it's good for next year. But I'm ready for Week fifteen already, which is when they come here. Sunday night game anyways, I keep sad Sunday night. I don't think it is, but it could be flexed. No, I think it is, or it's a Sunday I think it's a Sunday night game. Well we have we have a Monday night game against the Giants, and I believe that

one is. That's huh. We've had. We had five. We had Thursday against Dallas. We had Sunday in New England. We had Thursday again in Philly. We have the Saints, I mean the Giants game on Monday. So there is one more eight. So it's a Sunday night game, Sunday night game. Well, Saints in Tampa on Sunday night didn't go well last year. It didn't know that's going to be an opportunity to race that. Yeah taste? Do you

know what's kind of cool? Now? I know this is off subject because I put I've just popped up the Bucks app and I went to the schedule. Do you know when you're in a different time zone, the starting times change change? Nice? Yeah I did. And yeah, I finally got hold you're holding your phone. I got a new phone fund that I was rolling with an ocean which you still had. It still had the button at the bottom, and it takes a little bit of time to get used to it, but once you do, you'll

be fine. Good hold on, we got a transaction. We do have a transaction which since this will not be up until tomorrow, um, we can go ahead and they'll be like breaking news. Right, this doesn't go up till tomorrow. This is a great news, Jeff all Right, Scottie Miller and Sean Murphy Bunning are returning to practice, and it's extremely interesting to me, extremely interesting that they did it today because we're not going to practice. So you get

a three week window. You get a three week window when your guys and I are and you you designate them returning to practice three weeks, twenty one days they can practice and don't count against the roster before you have to make a decision. If you thought it was gonna take three weeks for them to get back, you wouldn't would now know, you would do it next Monday, right, Because you're not activating for them for any practice or game this week. That tells me these guys are relatively close.

It's exciting news. Sean coming back is big and with Antonio Brown kind of a little uncertain about him, Scottie back would be nice. Nice. Yeah, this is this is great news, and it's breaking right, it'st not breaking back. By the time you're listening to this, you've already but we're explaining a little bit more what it means. Well, you're also learning how we are. You know, we're in

one part of the building. This things started happening, and uh, that wasn't an email to the masses because I looked at my phone and I didn't see No. I get the transaction. You get the transaction. This this alerts us to this is happening, and NPR gets ready with their release and I get ready and when they tell us, we can go with it, and then we shoot it. Yea. So it's four three right now, which means, by the way,

they've been going at this for an hour and twenty minutes. Yeah, and the trade deadline is over with the trade deadline is over, so we got to get back to our desk. And one thing nice things about doing this did we finish his question? No? But let me say this. One of the nice things about doing this podcast on the Byeway, which I initially was a bit skeptical that we should but then change my mind you did, is that there's

no real pressure right now. Like usually we're doing this on a Wednesday afternoon and we go like an hour and twenty and I'm like, I really got to get back to my desk and to work on this or that it's kind of children. Basically, you're just killing the afternoon. Right now, I got something to work on because we have a transaction. You didn't stroll into work until after two. But it's OK, honestly, you joke. But I didn't come in till ten today. Don't tell my boss until ten ten.

I didn't even see it ten. I just took my time coming in today. Well you know that, you know, back to the bye week and whatnot, kind of that's what it is. If you do come in, you're coming in later on. I think coming in for an hour or so, or I think there's a lot of people in the building who are going to take two or three days off totally approved by yeah, Superor whatever. I'm probably not going to, but I won't necessarily come in at any I will say this, We are encouraged take

time off. We are encouraged to, Hey, we're gonna have a long st wretch, whether you go out of town or whatever, you need to take a few days just to just and preferably make sure it's Saturday and Sunday,

and then do a Monday. That give yourself three days or Friday Friday, because Monday is the beginning of a new Yeah, but a lot of people won't be coming back on Monday, Okay, I will I would say that even coming in probably Monday through Thursday and working in this relaxed atmosphere and not caring if you don't come into ten, it's just as good to me as taking a day off as far as I'm concerned. Well, if you're sitting at home, you know, if you sometimes sending

him home, I might have to do stuff. Well, that's true, but sometimes when you're at home, you think about those big projects that you have and you have I think about them all the time. Yeah, I don't do them, but I do think I got some more yardwork needing to be done in the backyard that I don't have any and Alex is no longer there my lawn. I have to pay a neighborhood kid now because my lawnmower is in Georgia Tech. Okay, so you're right. We haven't

got to his question, was it. Anyways? I keep hearing different names brought up during the m v P race with Derrick Ny Henry getting hurt, and by the way, I'd like to take a moment here to sob for a few minutes because he he's on my best fantasy football team. And he's the reason why I'm in first place. Yeah, I watched. I watched Will one of the dude. I watched their one of their games. I think it was against Buffalo that I watched, and I don't remember who

he He just was phenomenal. He doesn't even He's just huge and fast and it and it's a shame broken foot somebody like that. So it's a shame, but it's not also not terribly surprising because the workloads he's running. He's running the amount of times that the Bucks used to run James Wilder and that was a different area to get Okay, So with Derrick Henry getting hurt Marie and the Cardinals losing Jackson and Ravens getting throttled by the Bengals, it seems the race is even out a bit.

What are the odds? Brady becomes the first Buck to win the league MVP, which is true. We have had three defensive flavors of the year. I give a great performance. Oops. I feel like Brady gets the Tom Hanks effect with the Oscars, where everyone knows Tom Hanks is going to give a great performance and whenever movie he's in, so he has to be stellar to win anything nowadays, Brady would have to be especially great this year to win another m v P. Would breaking the single season passing

yards and TV records be enough? If the Bucks continue to take your care of business like we should. Thanks for the podcast, Sam and Nashville. I mean, he kind of encapsulates a lot of the whole debate already. He knows what he's talking about here. Um, and I don't know what did Tom Hanks win? Do you do your little phone? Do you love playing on your phone? Check up his oscars? Did you want for Philadelphia? Right? I think that was his first one? Um? He won for Philadelphia?

Do you think that was his first one? He did he win for Forrest Gump? I believe he did. You're gonna find out for sure. Though, a good example to keep it in sports, I would say the better example is Michael Jordan's because when we are all watching Michael Jordan's it was pretty clear they could have named them m VP every year for like ten years in a row,

but they didn't want to. So Karl Malone or Charles Barkley had a year, a great year, they would be the m v P, even though it could have probably should have just been Michael Jordan every year, right, And I do think that's the kind of a thing that that Tom Brady is up against here, Like last year he didn't make the Pro Bowl, Jeff Well, he threw forty touchdowns and like yards for a team that made

the playoffs and didn't make the Pro Bowl. That that is because he's Tom Brady, right, And so this is the same thing though, Yeah, the same thing. So I do think he's right. He has to it has to be extraordinary. The other problem is it's a crowded field. I think I said this last week and I got this from him. He's Okay, here's the interesting thing, real quick, Tom Hanks, he's been nominated six times but only has won twice. So it was in Philadelphia Forest, Yes, sir,

I feel pretty good about it. So, okay, what else would he been nominated for? Um, believe it or not, he got nominated for. I was gonna I was gonna guess cast Away h Nope, the Captain Phillips one. He should have been nominated for Captain Phillips. Did you see that movie that's the one with the Pirates where he's the captain ship and is something the end of that movie, he's been through this, and you don't see this in

movies very much. At the end of that movie, when it's finally over and all the stressy they've caught the pirates or whatever count I don't remember exactly, and he's out of danger and he saved everybody, and the stress, the the effects of all that stress hit him and he just like physically and emotionally collapses. I think it's some of the best acting he's ever done in his career,

and they don't show that in movies. Like think of like die Hard when when um Bruce Wilson's character goes through that day and die Hard at the end of it, it's just like joking around with his cop buddy. I think the Captain phips Win was so realistic in that after this incredibly stressful day where you were in your life and other's lives were in danger all day and it ends, all that just hits you and you collapse

at the end. And that's what I loved about that movie because I haven't seen that in the movie before. I thought it was brilliant and his acting was brilliant. So did he get nominated for that one? I can't tell. It's there's so much on him, you know it really no Wikipedia, I don't trust Wikipedia. Everybody says that, but it's a joke. Most of the stuff on Wikipedia is absolutely accurate. It's just it doesn't just like no one

has just a straight list. It's all all right, what but anyways six times and you every one for filling and and for Forrest Gump and uh and I think he's one for UM directing UM supporting actor. What was he ever a supporting actor? I don't know. I thought I saw something. First movie I can think of his was Bachelor Party and he was the main star. What would he have been a supporting big? Was he big? Was he did it with? He was? He was the star, He was the star. The kid was the supporting actor

him as a kid. Let's see, this is rivening podcasting, listening to you scroll through a phone. I know, I'm sorry, I apologie. I'm trying to get us. I'm trying to move on ahead. We don't need the whole Tom Hanks astand well, actually we're done, are we? But no, we're not. We need to answer this question. And I brought this up last week and I will once again good credit because I heard this on a podcast on the website

The Ringer. But except for Adrian Peterson when he ran for two thousand yards and whatever year, that was pretty much every NFL m v P at the last like dozen years has been a quarterback for a team that got a first round buy in the playoffs. So another one. It's only one by now. But in other words, a quarterback for one of the best four teams in the league. And uh and that's so now, that's what it's gonna be.

So some of this, obviously I agree with him, the Tom Hanks effect, but also the Buccaneers need to win their division and be like the first or second seed, because otherwise it's gonna be the Rams with Matthew Stafford, or it's gonna be Arizona with Kyler Murray. Everybody's gonna want to vote for Colin Murray because it's the new thing. It's going to be Dallas with Dak Prescott, it's gonna

be Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers. And the defending m v P uh Saints probably don't apply because their quarterback probably is not gonna be the MVP. So that's five guys. Prescott, Stafford, Murray, Rogers, Brady. They're probably all gonna be worthy of an MVP Awards, but only one of them can win it. And so yes, Tom Brady a is gonna have to. Like he he's on pace for more than fifty touchdowns and for the

passing yardage record. Now on pace after eight games is a little he can't really put much stock in to it, but he could conceivably break the yardage record and get more than fifty touchdowns. But he's probably also gonna need to lead the Bucks to one of the top two seeds in the NFC, or it's gonna be Stafford, or it's gonna be the guy everybody wants to vote for. And the other thing, it's Tom Brady. And he I

think he said it best. It's Tom Brady. So he can't always you can't vote for him all the time. It's gotta but but at some point, if he does enough, they're not gonna be able to ignore it. That's true. So most of the list you see nowadays start with like Kyler and Stafford and and Brady's like, wait a minute, this is an n n f C a C Award, this is this is legally you also worry about Lamar Jackson obviously, like you what you named all the NFC people?

So that was five, Now go ahead and name. Okay, I don't know who's on the top of anymore because they're the standings are so muddle over there, and everybody has at least two lossestment at least three. So who's good? Josh Allen would obviously be a candidate, Lamar Jackson, Like I said, Uh, I don't think Joe Burrow just yet. Um, all depends on what he does the rest of the year. Yeah, they just lost to the Jets. Um, who else is good over there? Furg is good, but they're good despite

their quarterback. They're good defensively, well they're running the ball. Uh, the Chargers, but they don't seem to be winning enough. They're like four and three. Herbert, Well, you know, well

that that's the thing you have to win. You have to win to be able to now that now that um planking on his name, now the Titans running back Derek and now that Derrick Harry is her there's not a running back that's gonna be Defensive players pretty much never win it, and I can't think of one who would buck that right now now you, Aaron Donald's, everyone and nobody's playing as well as Aaron donald in in

his best years. So it's gonna be one of those quarterbacks, probably the five image in the f C. Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and I do agree that Tom Brady's gonna have a hard time winning it unless he does extraordinary things, which he certainly. Let's keep our fingers crossed, and he does. You got it all right? Thanks, BEFO Brady's. If you've turned into this tuned into this podcast, boy, if you've turned into this podcast, if you should probably

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