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Welcome back, everybody to the Salty Dogs Podcast. And I am Scott Smith's I'm Jeff Ryan. We are the Salty Dogs. So far, so good, getting salty here by the week three game losing streaks are not fun.

Not at all. I did not see it coming.

Yeah, yeah, no, I boy. We almost got that one in Buffalo though. That was pretty crazy at the end.

That was good stuff. But before we start, if someone has a question and they want to let us go.

Shop Jeff so at the end of this, well, first of all, we're gonna we're gonna talk about the game and some other stuff. Uh, then we will We're gonna we're actually doing this on Tuesday. This part, we're gonna try tomorrow, good guests, If we get one, we'll shoehorn that in the middle. Sure, and then we'll finish off with fans questions that the fans are sent in and We've got a lot of them this week, Jeff helthough I will warn you ahead of time that not all

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If you want to send us a question or comment or a rant or anything, just email it to Salty Dogs at Buccaneers dot NFL dot com. Yep, okay, all right, onward onto the game on I kind of started at the end there, you know, the Buccaneers rallied from ten to nothing down to tie it to ten ten. Yeah, but then Buffalo seemed to be pulling away with the game with two touchdowns in the second half. So now

May Baker Mayfield scrambling around.

Yeah, so it took seven minutes and twenty one seconds off the clock, leaving only two forty four and then when Buffalo was able to get one first down, they led pretty much all but twenty one seconds off the clock by the time the Mayfield had the ball back in his hands pretty far back around the Bucks twenty. To his credit, he was able to get the bucks close to midfield, which allowed him to get off a credible hail Mary throw, believe, and it was almost an incredible hail Mary throw.

I've never seen a hell Mary throw not get touched just to hit drop again.

Yes, which is and everybody has said that, we all know this is true. Chris Godwin did not do anything wrong in that play, correct, But if in another parallel world he turns around a second earlier, he's probably going to catch that ball. Yeah, because he turns around and he sees it almost it's almost down in myriadis it's a foot or two in away, and he kind of reflexively sticks out an arm.

And he did get an arm out.

Yeah, he got an arm out. He didn't touch the ball, but had he been had he been able to track that ball a moment earlier, I think he would have caught it.

And no other.

Defender was there. The defender that was nearest him was a little bit past him. Well, the reason why there was no defender there is that they had they had Yeah, they had gate otton on the ground. I'm going to have to tell you if that would have been in New York City rather than in Buffalo, New York, that would be a muggy. I have to tell you the dear listeners that Jeff is pretty salty about this one. Just that they're never going to throw a flag on it. They're just not going to do it.

I understand that thought process. However, if it's a rule, it's a rule, and just because it's in that now, I understand if it's a questionable. You know, Okay, I'm not going to throw it. It's kind of close. It's a judge. But when a guy gets tackled like that, and I'm not the only one that feels that way, I know. I have to say. Peter King actually wrote on his Monday Morning.

He's on your side.

He was on the buccaneer side. He was. Yeah, he did go off a little bit about it that and and you know, if I'm a defender, you might as well, you might as well push somebody down because if he's gonna catch it, it's a touchdown game over with. If you push him down and they're not gonna call it, okay, good for me. But if you push him down and they do call it, well, then it's on the one yard line or close enough. Right, there's another play, But you saved the touchdown.

Can I make the Devil's Advocates argument? Sure, if the penalty was specifically on the guys that were hitting Kate Hutton and the ball was already in the air, if they throw a flag, that's for pass interference, not if the balls aren't in the air, that's past interference, not illegal contact, right, And then wouldn't they get together and discuss whether or not that pass was catchable for Cad it lands near Chris, but way beyond where Kate.

Then Chris also got spun around.

So well, okay, if you're saying this throwing the flag, I'm.

Just yeah, Christopher, I understand what you're saying. But but it was It kind of reminded me of It kind of reminded me of like the Super Bowl where the guy had the pass interference on the last went on the last drive, and they called it and everybody said, how can you call it? Call it to give him. You know, if it's a penalty, it's a penalty. But in sports, you see this all the time. In hockey, they call a game one way during the regular season,

That's a different problem. I agree with you on that one. But in the Super Bowl, it was not a hill Mary, and it was not the last play the game. I know that it effectively ended the game, but it wasn't a hill Mary. So it operated more like you would you would a normal play would, and the refs operated the way they normally would, whereas we all know, they're not going to throw a flag on hill Mary. No, unless like you chopped somebody's head out, I will say this.

Oh I'm sorry you weren't done well.

You responded to my thing about Cad and I was going to respond and now you made me forget what it was because they no, don'torry about it. What my response was not.

What you said. Well, no, what I was going to say. What you said was hell A long hour, man, Help help refresh your memory.

I remember what you said. I can't remember what I was going to say. Back droned on for so long.

All right, I'll shut up.

No, no, don't go back to what you're gonna say.

Now now I can't remember you off. This is going really well. Uh. What I was going to say is if if your hope to win is a hell, Mary, then you did a lot of things wrong during the regular part of the game. That's what I was going to say.

That's fair. I agree with you on that one. Oh, I know what I was gonna say. Okay, so you basically your basic concept, right is you know there's gonna be some shoving. They're not going to call that on a hail Mary. But if it's really blatant like what happened to Kate, then they should call that. Okay, Well, I say they argue, I argue that, well, it was an uncatchable ball for Kate, so they're probably to pick the flag up anyway. And then you say, well, Chris

That's more of a judgment call.

Well, it just wasn't that blatant. Yeah, and it really if he spun him around, then he did him a favor.

Well, that's true too. He should spun him fast and.

Should have spun him earlier. Yeah, that would have been nice. Jeez cut you know. So it's funny because I was watching on that play on next Gin and you can watch the video and then next to it you can watch the little thing where all the dots move around and you can get all the stats. Yeah, at the end of that play, when the ball is hitting the ground, you can't even see k dotten dot because the two defender dots are completely covering him. And that's pretty much

Yeah, and he was the go He was the guy that's supposed to pop it up in the air if you can't catch it.

Yeah, I noticed two got him and Trey Palmer both cut their their routes off right before the goal line, whereas Chris and Mike went into the into the inside and impressive throw by Baker. It went sixty five yards in the air.

I know, I was trying to decide how it was sixty one, but now you looked it up and at sixty one.

By the actual distance from where he was. He threw it from the thirty eight the bucks thirty eight, so that's sixty two yards of the end zone, right, And they didn't have in next gen exactly how far into the end zone Atlanta, but from looking at it looked like three yards in the end zone, so that'd be a sixty five yard throw.

Is a great throw. And again I cannot recall a hell Mary which someone did. It just dropped in. I know, it's cool, it was almost it was. It was kind of surreal because you saw and then it just dropped and I was watching it through binoculars.

Like it just disappeared.

Yeah, Okay, what just happened here? Other than the game was over with, but you know, there were other opportunities that perhaps they could have capitalized before they go to the Ol Mary Well.

Part of the problem is another issue on both sides of the ball again, third downs. We were talking about it last week. Third downs was really what's kill on us. Once again, we came into the game averaging exactly allowing an average of exactly fifty percent of third downs to be converted, which is utterly horrendous and not at all what our defenses normally do, right, and it went up because Buffalo converted seven of thirteen for fifty three point

Yeah, and they they You know, Josh Allen played a different game than he did the last few games. It's because he's running. Of course, you don't want your quarterback running around like that, but he he did. Now, whether that was because Vidavea wasn't in the center, you know, that's what you play with who you have and you go from there.

That's a good tangent to go off on there. Because Vitavea sat out the game due to a groin injury. It was a true game night decision. People always say game time decision, even the coaches. It was just not accurate. I will say this. It was so late.

You were jexing me and I was trying to figure out because we didn't see the inactives, and we were trying and you were going to go on the air, and you want and when you go on, you like to be accurate.

Yeah, and I go on the air before the injuries are put out, the enactors are put out. But it gives me an idea of what's going to happen, and I could speculate, sure, Yeah, we usually get a little picture showing us the enactors from the locker room, and it hadn't come. He usually had come by then, so

I would say that's not good.

Now. A lot of times there's lots and lots of times reasons why. Well, though, there's lots of times when a defensive lineman the positions that like Vita and Collija and Logan play can finish a game without any stats of note, but still be important to you know, because they're tying up blockers or getting penetration or you know whatever. A lot of reasons. Sure, a lot of things they can do to infect the game. It doesn't show up

Yeah, I agree one hundred percent on that one. I have to say though, that the weather was really nice. I mean, in western New York and late October you get seventy degree weather, sixty some in the nighttime, pretty solid.

And then after the game, I flew to Saint Louis. You did on Friday morning, and it was like that there too, like seventy I was hot all day and then we went to my sister's dinner and by the time we got to dinner, to drop like thirty degrees to forty and then for the rest of the week and it was like forty one degrees.

In rainy anyway, Yep, this is how it's more like what I remember. Yeah, yeah, but.

Yeah, the weather was so good and we were there for a long time because it was in a night game that I'm sure you did too. Got a chance in our hotel. We stayed in Niagara Falls, yep, instead of Buffalo or Oakland Park, and that and our hotel literally walked out the back door of the hotel and the path to the Nagara Falls was right there.

The river was there.

It was like a ten minute walk, huh. And the river was right there. Yeah, it is it the Niagara River. I assume I would.

I have no idea, but I would think so. But what was funny is that as we were walking along the trail and you could hear the rapids going and the water right there, and there's no guard rails, no fencing, no nothing. It was just like there and we were discussing the liability of no fences being there. But it was really very very nice and there are a lot of people did take that opportunity to walk down there, and some people even ventured into Canada, so that was a treat for them.

Yeah, you had if they were smart enough to remember to bring our past, right, you could walk across a bridge. I didn't have time to do that. But uh, I'm sorry, I'm pausing because we have breaking.

News, breaking news, so it's not actually.

Breaking news because people have already been reporting this for a while. But the Buccaneers are signing John Woolford off the practice squad to the active.

Roster, and that's to protect him.

Because there are at least reports that some teams were sniffing around him. And you can sign it wouldn't have to be a trade. If if a guy is on a practice squad, another team can sign them to their active roster anytime they want to. They just have to then keep them on the active roster for at.

Least three weeks.

So Bucks keep their third quarterback, which now means they could potentially use the inactive.

Third quarterback rule.

Yeah, but hopefully, hopefully, hopefully not just to make room. Patrick O'Connor, the defensive lignment was released. Now we have an open spot on the practice squad obviously, so my if I was a betanman, I would say so eventually they signed Patrick back to the practice Yeah.

So being released, he has to go through waiver wires. Is that it or he's no free agent?

He is a vested veterans. So the fact I said released instead of waived means he's immediately availab to sign anywhere his choice. Yeah.

Once the these moves.

Are reported, they're sent up to the league now and then by six they'll be sent back out. However, starting tomorrow, every player has to go through waivers, no matter how many years they've been in the league, because it's after the tread trade. That's that's to keep teams from doing little sneaky type trades at least the guy and they pick them up.

Yeah.

So yeah, everybody has to go through the waiver wire from from tomorrow through the end of the season.

I was surprised how many trades were.

There were a lot of them.

Yeah. Yeah.

Did San Francisco really need another pass rusher? Guess so they got young. Yeah, for a third round pick. John lynch Is is wheeling.

Indeed, I like that move. John'll be calling him trader John there.

Yeah, I like that move a lot.

Yeah. Well, they've they've struggled with some injuries, and they in the last couple of games they struggled defensively, so yeah, which was surprising very much so that I mean at the beginning of the year and at the and the end of last season that defense looked like even more impressive than their offense.

Right there, they're flust in a row right after starting off five zero and looking like the best team in the league.

That's correct.

That just goes into what you always say, Jeff, it's a week to week league.

That that and we're getting into the the part of the season where it's the pretenders and the contenders.

And the people who think they're pretending contenders. Obviously, that's it. You could say.

Uh.

The only weird one there was the Bears trading for uh, they traded for somebody a Montes sweat.

Yeah.

So Washington obviously doesn't think they're contenders because they just traded two.

Yeah, and they they played well against the Eagles this weekend.

Yeah. Yeah, they did. They almost pulled that one out. It's kind of weird that the Bears would give up a third round pick. I think it was, or maybe it was a second I think it was the second round pick. There's last year they traded a second round pick for Chase Claypool and that was an abject disaster. Yeah, they've already traded him away.

They've they've they've had their issues.

So the Bears trade But there, what are they two and six? I think they can't possibly think they're contenders, right, They're two and six and their core hurt. They don't think they're contender. So this is a move for the future. But but Montes Sweat, this is the last year of his contract, right, so they must be trading him with the intention of resigning him to a longer term deal, right,

Yeah?

Wow, to get out of those contracts? And then they signed two linebackers off the linebackers to big contracts, and then they trade four Montest Sweat, presumably to give him a big contract.

Why why do they do all that. Well, you could be you could be Scott from Tampa on the score in Chicago asking that question because Bear fans in the Chicago Land area are asking that question. Why. But if you there? How their their head coach has been there what a year now?

Two years? I think this is second second year? Okay, So and they didn't pick Justin Fields.

No, no, and so and the kid from that played on Monday night, Tyler Badging. Yeah he got it. He got a pretty good Uh, he's got a pretty strong arm, I would hope.

So you you I'm sure you heard them saying.

What his dad does, right, No, it's his dad doing.

His dad is like one of the all time greatest arm wrestlers, really multiple champions.

No wonder is so bulked up. When I saw him on TEAZ he his son went over there and gave him a big hug. Yeah, it's really nice. I like, I like when that stuff happens. I mean, you gotta be a dad. I mean, if if your son makes it to the pros, I mean he's got to be beaman now. Yeah. So yeah, that's pretty solid.

I don't know why we're talking about the well because it's it's talking about trade.

Yeah, you're scratching your head because of it.

Yes, the forty nine ers get another one was the other there was there was one really big one. Well I guess the forty nine ers one was the biggest one.

Yeah, well the big that's the one that you think, Holy smokes.

It's like you guys haven't been credited last year at the trade. I don't know if it was right at the trade deadline close, they traded for Christian McCaffrey.

Yeah, that didn't work out too which totally I know that.

I know that rock Party was the big story, but it was Christian McCaffrey that transformed that offense from good to unstoppable.

When he doesn't play, there's when when Deebo Samuel and him and and mc McCaffrey don't play, that's a different offense for sure, totally different. Absolutely. So Yeah, that's pretty strong moved there. I think.

I think Christian mccafrey has scored a touch in like seventeen straight games or something crazy like that. That's insane, utterly insane.

And then Leonard Fournette has signed a deal with Buffalo as a practice squad, right, probably get elevated after a week or two something like that.

The Cardinals traded away Josh Dobbs the Vikings. Ah, Josh Dobbs just gets dropped into these situations.

Poor guy.

They he got traded to the Cardinals right before the season and then became their starter. Yeah, and in some games actually played pretty good and then the Cardinals just trade him back to Uh. I know Kyler Murray's coming back soon. Yeah, I know that, although I think they're starting Clayton Tune, who does not sound like a real person, but I think they're starting him doing their next game.

Do you think he rents rather than buys.

Josh Doabs. He's probably learned to at this point.

I'm just curious.

The Packers traded a cornerback to the Bills, Russell Douglas.

The Bills are making some moves, but they they've been hurt. They've they've been kind of banged up. So there's that the Bills have.

Yeah, that's another reason why I thought maybe.

The Browns traded Donovan People's jones to the Lions. Yeah.

Yeah, they're they're loading up for bear.

Yeah. Well they look pretty. They didn't looked great last night, but they were they were good. They were good enough to win and that's all you need to be clear.

The better team.

Oh yeah, I did like their look. I did like more of the silver with the with the blue, and the fans were really into it. So they're very excited in Detroit.

Of these Houston oiler throwbacks this week.

We're fairs. Absolutely, that was I heard it was one of those. When I first saw it, I was like, is that an oiler highlight? It's awful clean? Is that Bruce Matt Yeah? That Earl Cambell, Earl Campbell? Oh mom, you know is that bum on the sideline? Bum phillips? Oh? Bum pills?

Yeay, I thought you were going Earl call them?

No, no, do you know that?

You know Earl Campbell's connection to the Buccaneers, right, kind of in a way.

Fill me in.

So the Bucks had the first pick in the seventy six draft, right, and then after going on fourteen, they had the first pick in the seventy seven draft as well, right.

Oh, and they went with Ricky Bell. Yeah, and then in the.

In the in seventy eight I believe that they were they were also going to pick third after going two, I mean first, after going two and fourteen in seventy seven but instead of making that pick, they traded with the Oilers to.

Get Jimmy Giles.

And in the well, I mean they traded and part of the trade they traded from one down to.

Where did they get him? Trying to look at this list.

Here, they traded down to seventeen and took Doug Williams and part of the return on the trade was Jimmy Giles.

I say, that's pretty good trade.

Yeah, although you know, and the earl Campbell was considered the best player in the draft, and he was fantastic. Yeah, But the Bucks had drafted Ricky Bell the year before.

Right, and that was before Ricky Bell became.

Ill, and they were planning on yeah, right, and they were planning on targeting Doug Williams, and they knew they didn't have to do that with the first overall pick. Art Still went second, and West Chandler went third, and James Lofton went sixths and that was Clay Matthews went twelfth. That was a good draft. John Jefferson went fourteenth, Molly, that was a good draft.

Yeah, And those were players, those were all really good.

As he knew someone in the first round of draft, Larry, but he was really good. Anyway, what was I talking about before all that?

Well, we were talking about trade.

Oh no, we're talking about throwbacks.

Yeah, oh yeah.

I was listening to a podcast and they were arguing about whether the best throwbacks were Tennessee or Seattle. I didn't really see Seattle, but apparently they had some nice throwbacks, and I'm like, this is bucko, Bruce Eraser, who, well, are you not throwing that into the right right?

No, I felt the same way. But if you had the reason why the Oilers look so cool is they don't exist anymore.

Yeah, I'm not really surprised they did that. I'm glad they did it, but I wouldn't have expected that.

Well, that that would be like can you imagine the Ravens.

Oh, that would never happen. They probably can't speak. I Cleveland's back.

Yeah, I didn't even get the finish, but that would be pretty cool. So any other team that could do that, I don't think so. I don't think.

Because the Cardinals just were card the Cardinals. They've always been the Cardinals.

Cardinals were Cardinals when they were in Chicago, when they were Saint Louis and.

The Raiders who roved around. But They've always been Raids. The Rams have always stayed the Rams.

Ye, No one's changed there. So there's a lot more.

Of those in baseball, Like the Baltimore Royals used to be the Saint Louis Browns, I think.

Well, I know, the Milwaukee Braves at first were the Boston Braves. Milwaukee Braves the Atlanta Braves. Yeah, and then it.

Wasn't there a team called the Cold forty five that became.

That was the that was that. I think it was the Washington Senators went there.

And became the Washington Centers.

Oh, maybe someone became the Cold forty fives, but I will say they became this. The Seattle Pilots became the Mariners a good one. No, no, became became the Brewers.

Really yeah, really well, the Montreallexwells became the Washington Nationals. Correct, So that's what I'm saying. There's a lot more name change moves. Well yeah, yeah, so we got the one the Oilers to the Titans. But I can't think of another one there. If there is another one, somebody's screaming at.

Us right now. No there, I mean, if you I mean other than the Commanders. Oh well, they didn't move, but they didn't move, that's true. The Vikings have always been the Vikings, the Bears, Steelers. Yeah, you start thinking about those Core Dolphins. Yeah, those Cores Raiders. I don't think so.

Chiefs chiefs for the Houston Texans originally, I think.

Well, yes they were. They were the America. That was the American football right right. But it is a team, so they that's true.

But they can't throw back to the Texans because now there's a new Texans.

Right right. That's kind of interesting. Yeah, that was I did not That was not on my Bengal car.

What a trip down memory lane. We just took and dragged a bunch of listenings.

But what I like about the Houston Oilers thing is it was very very cool.

Dallas Texans the Dallas three years they were the Dallas Texans in the AFLUH.

Mainly because when I was looking at the Oilers logo and their helmet, it made me think about doing games in the Astrodome, and we did a game there, So that was That was one of the stadiums that at one time was the seventh Wonder of the World. Yeah, and it's now it looks like a storage shed. Next to the news.

Nobody goes in there.

No, they used to do. They used to do the rodeo in there. Yeah, but they don't. They haven't for years.

You've had this discussion on this podcast.

No. But what what I'm saying, though, is that that that's a good that that was a great throwback. They did a nice job.

It was really cool. But if you're gonna argue about which one's.

Best, oh yeah, Creamsickles the best.

You gotta at least include the Bucks.

It's you know what's funny is watching the highlights from the Creamsickle game. I see those uniforms and I go, wow, that really looks good. And and any time I was not a big fan of those during that period.

Yes, people associated the orange with losing. Yes, yes, And I think that's what it is. It's not so much that people wouldn't have liked the color because it was unique. It said the Bucks did a whole lot of losing in that color.

Yeah.

So now that the Buccaneers have found several eras of success in for his history, won two Super Bowls in a different uniform, you.

Can feel good about it.

You can look at the uniforms and not think about Oh that's just that's just a losing color and you can look at them.

Go, that looks pretty good.

Yeah, but I think I personally believe it's best.

In small doses. Oh, no question on one week one gave me years. Fine, all the throwbacks are best and small correct because if you see it all the time, it becomes that.

You made the correct take.

Yes, so all right, well we'll make that a rule. I think it.

Well, it's almost a rule. I think you can only wear alternate U firms like three times.

A year or something something like that. But that is uh, yeah, that's pretty good.

You want to know a cool thing that happened in that game, that Buffalo game, I mean a stat stat wise. Stat Wise, I meant, well, it's a thing that happened, but I can apply a cool statue.

Okay, go ahead.

Uh so, Antoine Winfield, I'm going to find a reason to rave about every week. Makes another play on a blitz, jumps up, deflects the ball, and Will Goldston comes down with the uh deflection correct.

He gets an interception for his first interception in eleven years.

And it was in his one hundred and sixtieth game played. Really, so he got his first interception in his one hundred and sixtieth game. So I started thinking earlier today, hmmm, or actually I think it was yesterday. I wonder, what's the record for the latest game in one's career of get they got their first interception, and I went, I.

Have no idea how to look that up? How did you?

I didn't. I went over and asked, or I sent an email to Ben and Dan and Ben and Andrew in pr asking him if they had any ideas of how to do that, because we have a number of different stat services and some of them I am familiar with and some of them I'm not. And they they that I do, and if you're really desperate, you can you can send an email to Elias and their database.

And they can usually figure that stuff.

That's pretty cool, but it sometimes it takes a day or two to get in answer. And Ben, who did an awesome job on this, told me he had already thought of that and it started searching it on I think True media and it just timed out on him. So he didn't know if it was going to work, but he says, I'll.

Try it again.

So what he did was he took he filtered for everybody who played one hundred and fifty nine games and had zero interceptions, if you played at least one hundred fifty nine or if you played one hundred fifty nine games had zero interceptions. Okay, see what I'm saying there, that that would be the crew that could possibly get their first interception in their one hundred and sixtieth game

He stared it out. That's pretty smart.

So how do you think that ranks.

Of one hundred and sixty games? First, iront, I think we were lank.

Five the fifth latest game.

Yeah, that's pretty good.

That's really good because it's actually tied for seven. Really, the incredible thing here is that a couple of years ago, you remember Steve McClinton, that was a defensive lineman.

The Bucks got into trade from Miami. No, from New England.

Okay, no, the Jets. They got him in a trade deadline trade with the Jets. Right, Okay, he played a few years, was on the Super Bowl team. We traded for him because vide Vea was hurt. He got an interception while with the Bucks, his first one in his one hundred and sixtieth game.

That is a wild way today. Yeah, that's so. Now there must be a third because there actually happens in threes.

There is a third. Really, you're not a buccaneer, but a third player. First interception of one hundred and sixtieth game, and he's a Hall of Famer. Unfortunately he's no longer with us. Derek Thomas. Wow, the former Kansas City Chiefs.

Great. Wow, who was there the year I worked for Kansas City? Yeah, holy smokes.

Derek Thomas had his first interception in his one hundred and sixtieth career game.

Now, see that's the kind of stat I like, that's what you know? Well, because that's all numbers to me, no pun intended, but that that is. Yes, there's a human interest story with that.

Oh it actually Ben told me how he did it, so I'll read it all right. I set a search for at least one hundred and fifty nine consecutive games with zero interceptions to begin a career. It populated ninety two results, and I went one by one.

Wow, guy, to.

See which of these ninety two players. Those ninety two players ended their career with at least one iron t From there, it was just going to their game logs and seeing how it shook out. Well, Ben, so Ben, that's a lot of work. That's props to you, bet he said the bottom. I probably should get back to work.

Yeah, well, that's props to Ben for helping the salty dogs out. That was a good one. I like it.

So Number one is Trace Armstrong. Remember Trace arms from when I get there for all time? Yeah, two hundred and one and one. Wow, jeezu, that's what I wonder. How many fifteen seasons? That's a good question. Wow, I have so many windows open on my computer.

That is That is remark, Trace Armstrong? Did you play for anybody else? Oh?

He played for Miami and Oakland too. Actually he played as long for Miami as he did for oak Chicago. Anyway, he only played in two hundred and eleven games, and he had ten games in his last season. So he got his first interception in the very last game of his career fourteenth season, played fifteen that's crazy.

I guess you never forget your I in T then you wouldn't.

Randy White, he's a Hall of Famer. Right, he is one hundred and eighty fifth game. Wow, Anthony Pleasant, I think he must have played for the Browns one hundred and seventy sixth something named Greg Craigan. I've never heard of one hundred sixty five Art Still, who I just this is the second time of Naves said Art Still in this podcast. One hundred sixty four art Still's famous. He's probably in the Hall of Fame, although I don't know for sure. Joe Nash, I have not heard of

Yeah. And I saw Will on Monday even props and he was looking for his ball. They had it, and I saw him in the equipment.

I'm gonna tell him that note or maybe I should let them into it.

Since he well, well, maybe Ben should.

Yeah. Here's okay, you're here's another stat all right that you're gonna end up liking, okay, okay, is about Levonte.

David Oh, anything you say about Lavonte.

Like Levante has had in his last three games, has had twelve, thirteen and fourteen tackles.

Okay, which is the first streak like that that we've had in a while.

That has put him all the way up to it's so good when we get to do this when I have my laptop with Yeah. Second, that has put him up to a total of one four hundred and eleven tackles in his career, which means he is closing in on one. Mister Rende Barber for the second spot. Derek Brooks has a lead that'll probably a number that will probably never be topped, twenty one hundred ninety eight in Bucks history. Second, amazingly a cornerback. This is again how

And he's playing and he's playing like yeah, playing like a kid.

I think it's mostly because he came on our podcast.

Maybe, yeah, it could be that, I think, And I had to remind him that he was playing for a contract, so you know, there was that toket to keep things going.

He owes fourth on for us all time and tackles.

Do you know, do I know who's guest fourth and all time tackle for the Bucks? Yeah? I figured you were saying that fourth all time tackle. Don't know? I mean, I really you can't even guess. John Lynch, Hardy Nickerson, Oh, Hardy really, Hardy didn't really play that long.

He was here from ninety three to ninety nine, So that's seventh season, that's true. Yeah, but remember he was the guy tackles.

Yeah, I was just gonna say, yeah, and that's when. Yeah.

Yeah, it wasn't until Derek Brooks came along that that he then started to not always be the tackle leader, right U and fifth is Shelton Corals.

Actually John Lynch is sixth? Oh, okay, Batman, what is seventh? All right?

M Chase McLoughlin. Let's talk about him. A fifty seven yarder in that game. He's already hit two fifty seven yarders this season. And this one was not in a dome with no wind. Now, the elements were a facturate this one. I was a little surprised he sent him out for that fifty seven yarder.

I was too.

He had the fifty one yarder blocked.

That's and the reason why I got the fifty seven and I was thinking about that, but then when you were talking, I was like, yeah, but what about that one that got blocked? So he's had his what'd he say? What did he say? What did who say? McLoughlin did. I didn't say, he said, oh, I thought you said he said no.

So he had a fifty seven yard hes already had. He's already had three fifty plus kicks. He's yeah, fifty seven twice, so you know, that's that's kind of cool. His only two this is that a fourteen tries this year. We're both blocks. I don't remember the first one. Sometimes when you have a block, especially on a long field goal attempt, you wonder it was that the kicker's fault because the trajectory was too low. But if you look at the replay, that guy pretty got up there pretty good.

And we were I thought I was surprised it got blocked because you're not thinking that.

Hey, while we've been on this podcast, the trade deadline is passed.

Yes, so the Bucks did not make anything. So you're not You're not going anywhere, buddy boy.

I got traded to the I can't even be traded in my hometown because there's no team in Saint Louis.

Well, that's true. Or if you did get traded there, that would really suck for you.

I mean that would not be well unless I got traded across sports to the Saint Louis Cardinals.

Then you would be and you would be like, oh my gosh, you would be Oh gosh. You wouldn't be able to, wouldn't you. I don't know if I can process it. No, you couldn't. You would be overload.

That's why I just don't.

And you know what, it would take your enjoyment, your pleasure out of it. I wonder if it would. Oh yeah, I would think so maybe it would, because that's your side thing.

I've never thought that being a fan of a team was a particularly positive trait. If you're looking for a job with that team, it's not a negative. I don't think but I don't think it's a positive.

No, But but something like someone like Nelson Luis who grew up in Tampa Bay. He's our chief communications officer, right, he is in his dream.

Job, I guess. But he doesn't really wear his fandom on his.

Sleeve, you know. No, no, no, he's a pro. He's he's pro. He's a pro. But yeah, but you see if you if you worked for the Cardinals, you wouldn't be able to enjoy your fandom like you do with it.

But you just said he's in his dream job.

He is, but he's really professional to do that. I was trying to complete myself. Yeah, I don't like where that's headed. Well, you are a fan, fan and uh you get to release your not hostilities, but when they make you mad, and when they make you mad, you'll turn the game off when they make when they make you mad, you yell at them. Yeah, you know you were a fan, and that's that's fandom. Do you know that?

Did you watch any of Have you watched any of the baseball playoffs?

I have?

Have you seen how the Rangers Adultess Garcia has been absolutely tearing it up?

He has except he bowled a muscle on his back last night. I didn't know that. Yeah, last night. I didn't play last night. Yes they did. Who won Texans? The Texas Texas. Yeah he swung, damn, I forgot what. He swung really hard and he swung really hard and threw something in his back. He swung too hard. Yeah. Well, in fact, they got a couple of injuries. Max mad Max. He make sure he got her yep, Well he got hurt. Yeah, he got hurt. Career, he only threw thirty six innings, but that was.

Thirty six innings record, thirty.

Six pitches, but it was through three records. Are three innings.

Twelve twelve pitches an ending is yeah pretty strong?

Yeah yeah. Oh, just so you know it's on tonight.

Okay, and there's no football in the way, so I make sure I'll watch it.

Okay. Last night it was very very difficult. It was the Lightning were playing, Baseball was on and money I watched football, so whoever went into commercial break flip and then you were there, okay. So it was just it was like, really, wow, this is this is tough.

Well anyway, Adulescrcia, who set a bunch of records in the ALCS for like Homers and RBIs and all right, you know what Cardinals traded him to Texas, did they?

Yeah?

For cash considerations. Ah, I mean this is obviously before he became big.

A good deal there. Tommy fam also a player that Cardinals straighted away. He was with the devil with the Rays here in Tampa also because the Cardinals straighted him. Yeah, and he Marcelo's in the Cardinals. He's hot right now. He's playing really very streaky hitter. Yeah. Well, he's streaking at the right time. He was four for four Saturday night. Okay, no, Sunday night. He was four for four Sunday night. Saturday night, Saturday night, that's right. They didn't play. You know what

They must have been winning by a lot of that.

They were it was like nine to one. Okay, he did so great, you know. See. Now that's that's the type of stories I like.

I saw the headline and they only had his last name in there, which was Peterson. I know there's a player in the in the MLB named Jase Peterson, so it was probably him.

So that's why being a fan you can do all of that stuff. But if you work for them.

Okay, I knew nothing about the Bucks before I came here, and now I probably did. Though I probably know more about the Bucks than maybe five people in the You know a lot about the Buckall Stewart, I think I know a lot about the Bucks, but you know a lot about the Bucks. How happy do you think that people are that came to listen to this podcast about Buccaneer football that we just did like five minutes on baseball?

Well, we did five minutes of fandom.

Okay, get it right, Okay, all right, all right, let's let me get to a few things.

If you if you're coming to this podcast and thinking we're going to keep a straight line, and it's not.

Or that we're going, Yeah, there's no straight line, no straight line like I said last week, and I'm plugging them again. If you want a very structured podcast, well structured where they hit certain points and they're prepared for them ahead of time, listen to Tampa two with Casey Phillips and Breed Dix at the end of the week. Hopefully you listen to us as well. I'm saying, honest, saying leave us just just that into your rotation.

Let's just say, if we had Colorene books, we would not be in the lines I'm color see there you go. That that explains it.

I have absolutely there's things in the world. There's things that people are good at that I don't even understand how it would be possibly good at. Like how do you write music? I don't even know. I could never do that. You could try to train me and I'm positive I wouldn't be able to do it.

How do you? I can never paint? But that's what makes that person special.

Is that Bob guy that would go on TV. Yeah he passed away recently.

I don't know, but he Yeah, he would teach you how to do.

It with So maybe I could do the little strokes and draw some trees, but I can I could never draw good.

Drawing, just that it's a talent. It's given.

Some people just can do it and I and then if you have the talent, you can make it better.

Yeah, you can improve your talent.

But I mean some people have told me they don't know how they could ever write, you know, right, Well, I agree with that. You know, there are people that just don't have the ability to write.

I can hose a letter. I can do it, but it takes me longer than it should. Oh really, Yeah, but I watch you and it makes my head hurt because you fly across the keyboards and you do a lot of writing.

I do a lot of writing, and you shut the door and you go. I spend a lot of time with my doorshop.

Yes you do. But that's that. But everybody has their talent. You have to hone in on it.

I didn't do the favorite thing you saw?

Did I? You did not? Well, I forget Yeah.

I mean, I guess the favorite thing I saw over the weekend? No, no, no, no, no, no, that's not true, because I went to my sister's weddings. Yeah, so that would be the favorite thing.

Favorite thing at the game or thing during our trip.

Obviously it would be Niagara Falls, and I and I was trying to talk about this earlier. We obviously went off on a tangent and never got back to it. I don't know if everybody else feels this way, but obviously I've seen depictions of Niagara Falls and movies and whatever. I always thought it was just one big waterfall, like the and I probably was picturing the Horseshoe Falls, the one called Horseshoe Falls and which is named for an obvious reason. And there's a bunch of mist everywhere, but

I had no idea. Yeah, and there's the American side and there's the Canadian side, and if.

You go to the Canadan side you can kind of get a better view angle on it.

Yeah, to view it, and they it was.

Pretty cool from the Americans.

And they and they light them up at night. I didn't see that. That was my only uh regret, regret, is. I've seen it before, but I went and saw it during the daytime the night before. I wish I would have walked down, and I chose not to. Well, anyway, it was cool. Yeah.

The other favorite thing probably be back.

Is a fire alarm. Again, he's a siren.

A fire alarm went off on our building today and it wasn't a test, so the firemen had to come fire apartment yep, and we all had to go stand outside on the field. I'm acting like this was such a terrible inconvenience.

I wonder how long it took the fireman to get through past security.

Mike, All right, let's not Mike Martin doesn't even be catching strays.

I'm he's a very good security guy. He does not let anyone in Scott Smith in particular.

No, he wouldn't let.

Me out with that one. Well, that's.

It's funny that a fire alarm goes off and nobody, nobody moves, nobody, nobody believes fire alarms. Nobody believes a fire alarm.

That is so that is not good.

You would have to smell the smoke probably before you would actually will.

In fairness to us, we were eating our our lunch and we looked around and went out, seeing.

Well, we were also about five ft from a door. Yeah, well, we could have got out pretty quick.

We had an exit strategy in place, so we were good.

To get But nobody else came and left the building until somebody came around and made them. Yes, we actually have I don't know what they're called, their fire marshals. Like each department has its own little fire fire guy. He was supposed to lead the way if there.

Is a fire. Somebody asked me who in my department was in charge? It's not me, that's all I know.

But I know it's not Jeff.

But I told you how I would get out of my office.

Yeah, I didn't believe you though you could do it. I don't think those windows will break.

They will.

I'm telling Jeff thinks you could throw.

It's a double it's a double pain. But you have to hit the first paint and get the second pain. Just so you know.

He said he would his office. He can get to the little ledge by the big football. Yep, that's on the front of the building. He said, break the window, hop out on that ledge, and then go over and climb down the football, which I think you could do.

Yes, you can. I've looked at it. I examined it. Yeah, yes, that's really sled down.

Tell me that's your extra strategy. If the fire is on the other side of your door, yes, Otherwise it would probably best to just walk to the Stairwell, don't think.

This would be true. But if the only X that I had was well, yeah, I mean i'd be paying attention.

I wouldn't have access to that ledge, so you have to jump.

I'd let you come in my office.

Under this scenario, I would have to already be in your office because the fires outside your door. I guess I just tried to jump into those bushes, right.

I was going to see if you could leap on that ledge. But no, I don't think he'd make it.

So I might break a leg, but I think I would die.

Hopefully we don't have to work. No, you wouldn't that fall? Well, I could break it. You'd break a leg on that fall. Yeah, we're on the second floor.

I was What I was trying to say was that my favorite thing other than the Niagara Falls was that Mike Evans touchdown catch.

Oh great, for one thing.

Every time Mike Evans scores a touchdown, it's another milestone. He keeps moving up the all time list. He moved from ty for eighteenth to ty for seventeenth with Jimmy Graham, and each time he catches another pass until ninety two, he's going to move up another spot.

It was a big time catch and the catch was amazing. I told the guy's helmet I didn't know that. He just kind of yep, wow.

He I looked at the next gin little moving dots on that one too, And that guy, Toron Johnson is one of the best slock corners in the league. And Mike came out of the slot on that play on the right side and then he crawled across to the left. Toron Johnson had tight coverage on him the entire way. Mike never had more than two yards of separation. And by the time the ball arrived it was zero point nine, right, So that dude was all over him and he still made that, kidd, and it was on fourth down and

You're not You're not arguing about a hell mary if that.

Doesn't Yeah, So that was I mean, Mike is just I mean, it wasn't more can we say?

Yeah, it's just so good. My favorite thing at the game. Are you ready? The Frisbee dogs. Oh yeah, Frisbee dog They were awesome. Yep. I just I don't know why I have seen them. I can't count how many times, but every time I do, it still makes me laugh. It just you know, well, they're so happy. Yeah, I mean, and they're so good.

They're so good too, but it looks like it just makes them so happy. Yeah, they g at the end. They always run all the way back to the owner and jump into his arms.

Yeah. I do have to ask, did you have chicken wings? When you were up there? Did you get wings?

I did not, really didn't eat out at all, real, wow. I stayed in and got stuff done on Wednesday night.

Yeah, because I was leaving. I worked on the airplane getting there, and then when I got to the hotel room, I finished working and then I went to dinner and had I did have wings. I mean I've had wings at Buffalo. Yeah, I know, but it was just kind of like they tasted pretty much the same too, But it just kind of fun.

They get credit for inventing it, I guess. Yeah, But I mean, plenty of people have done good wings all over the.

Place, and I do have to give the Buffalo well, I should say the Bill's mafia props very impressed with their tailgating abilities, very very impressed. That's good. Yeah, I didn't see any of that. You didn't, No, not on your long bus ride in Oh I don't. I wasn't paying attention. That was another thing. I was up for thirty seven straight hours. Were you cranky? No, it was okay, okay, it's weird. Wells as you were with your family.

It's weird because if I was with you, you'd be great. I don't know if I've had a lot of those experiences. I'm sure it's happened at some point in my life, maybe in college. But it's funny how I would I would get really tired, but then you'd like hit a second win feel and then it happened multiple times over. So I got up around I don't know, maybe nine on Thursday morning, but that would be eight o'clock Saint Louis. So then work the game, went back to the hotel,

Did you have a room? Yeah? Oh, well, so you were able to take a shower, and I took a change. She got a little bit of work. Does No, it was great.

I appreciate Tim Drocky doing that because there were other people who were flying commercials, so they were getting them rooms. So didn't sleep because there was no point in trying to go to sleep in the fearful of not waking up.

Yeah, and you had a very early morning flight to go.

To go to the airport. I have difficulty sleeping on planes, so that would have made sense. I had two different plane flights. I might have dozed off once or twice, but it was only for a few minutes. So then

Yeah, we flying back. We landed it around I don't know, four fifteen something like that. Yeah, I got home by five. I was up at eight thirty. Back in here, it's a little after night the coaches show. Yeah, it got a little after nine, and then I was here until almost six. And when I got home, I really wanted to go to bed, and I made my all that's smart. I just was like, no, you know, just you know, try to get to ten o'clock.

Yeah, it's like when you're trying to avoid it's like when you're trying to avoid jet light.

Yeah, I got to like nine forty. Okay, that's close enough. I'm I'm out. But yeah, the night games and it takes it. Then you know, on Saturday, you know, you kind of you're almost back the normal. But yeah, it's it's tough. And I feel sorry for the players because you know, they had to be here, they had to be here at like ten o'clock because of treatment. Yeah, but then they got a couple days off. They did, they did, don't go in as practice.

Anyway, I said last week that I would share the football related joke that I gave in the in my Toesi's wedding, which was beautiful. By the way, she didn't get to do the part outside she wanted to do. The ceremony was a large wedding, one hundred people.

Medium.

Yeah, I think it was probably okay.

It was medium.

There weren't a lot of the usual wedding bells and whistles. She didn't have a because obviously it's my older sister, so if you know how old I am, you can But she doesn't look anywhere near her age, and she's she and her husband have a long time left together. And but they didn't do this is the second marriage for both. Sure they did didn't do a lot of

Oh, very cool.

It was really really neat. They did great job. And anyway, I was asked to give a toast, which I spent a long time practicing on because I don't like to have cards. I want to just which is a bit of a shame. I probably should have kept notes because I actually realized afterwards that I forgot a few parts and I missed a good joker too here or there.

Okay, make sure that it wasn't going to be a fans all of a sudden, my mind is racy, Like where's he going with?

I said to Mike, I'm like, I wanted to be the first to congratulate you on now having had more wives than the Bears ever had good quarterbacks.

Why it was great. I got a lot of less.

And then I said, to be honest, Mike, you're just patting your dad at this point, and you already had it. Yeah, right, I told him. We you know, I watched the Buccaneers beat the Bears earlier this season, and I don't think Justin Fields is coming for your leader. Yeah, although I actually kind of like Justin Fields.

Yeah that's good.

Yeah, I went over with. I like that part went over with and then I got sentimental. Of course, well gotta do that.

Did you get teary eye? Be honest, yes, I have to admit this is the best part that if Scott is very sensitive, but you never it has to be certain things. It's not like you're not that person like always emotion.

I'll bare my soul here. I'm a bit of a crier. I cry at movies all the time. You have told me this, and I cry at every wedding I go to. I just think they're beautiful events, even if I don't even know the people all that well, when the you know, the bride's walking down the aisle and she looks so beautiful, and you know what they're doing there, and they're so happy, they're they're about to make vows for their rest of their lives to each other.

It's just the whole thing's beautiful to me. I love weddings.

So now adding the fact that my sister who I loved, yeah, there was no chance I wasn't going to cry, but I made it through my toast without crying nice, which was the only time. I practiced a bunch of times and never could do it without choking up. And I made it through without choking up. So I think it's because I was very nervous. You wouldn't think i'd be nervous because I sometimes speak in front of sixty thousand people at a stadium. Yes, but I was, for some

Yeah, I think that's right. Can you give us the toast. I'm not gonna do the whole thing, and I just.

Gave you the highlight right there. All I just thought, maybe you know, no, I think it's kind of personal.

Okay, fair enough. Well, I'm glad that you were able to make it. I'm glad the schedule makers made it.

That was incredible was that I would have missed a game for my sister's way. But I didn't have to.

And that's the hardest part that we've talked about before. You you just got to figure it out.

If it would have been the first Buccaneer's game that I did not work. I can't say that I wasn't at because the COVID year Colvid killed us, but the first game that I did not work since nineteen ninety three. It's crazy when former owner you clover House decided a few weeks into the season that there were too many people on the plane. Yeah, so every department had to lose a person. I was a low man on phone pole in pr and I didn't get to go to

Sure, what a concept. People who work for a living on game day, Maybe they should go to the game.

How long we're going going.

About fifty seven minutes? Okay, so we can go a little more. We don't have to. Yeah, it's up to you.

Well, I wanted to. I wanted to. H I thought that Todd Bowles had a really good line about about the Trade Dead I Love Monday. He was asked where the Buck's going to be buyers or sellers? And I just I thought, I think this is his best press conference line of the whole year. Yep, he goes, we're going to be listeners. We're not trying to be buyers and sellers, but will listen, right. I totally loved it.

I think that's that's very, very true. You know, everyone always talks about how they need to make a trade or they want to trade. Thank you, Yes, in my office, thank you.

This is like last years.

Yeah, remember that that was Savannah the pr intern delivering game day releases. Who you know who used to deliver those? Yeah? Who you do know who used to deliver the previous pr intern? Yeah, Mikayla.

Mikayla.

Right, you're gonna see her on Sunday because she's now with the Texans. Really, see how I connected that? See how I connected that?

I should have put that into connections in my in my story, in my game previews.

Oh my gosh, that would have been so I still can we have a post it? You should? That is Oh, that would be very funny and you and I would be the only ones that get it. But that I would tell her though, Yeah, that would be funny. Yes, I like it very much. So. But yeah, you know, everybody talks about how you gotta make it tr trade,

I don't know who'd been out there the Bucks could have traded for that would really move the needle. Well, I mean when I was talking about the shots any Yeah, Derek Hennery, we're not thirty year.

At thirty years old as a running back, but you know, you're kind of running a guy in that in that particular in since which is not a.

Bad thing depends on what you give up, correct, So it could be one of the the hottest new trade trend is a team is basically trying to get rid of a player anyway, and everybody knows it. So the least possible thing you can give, and everybody keeps doing this trade, not today, but in previous weeks. You try a player and a seventh round pick for a sixth round. Yeah, and sometimes it's not even a sixth round. Is there a pick in the next track or something like you

Ah, so I CA, yeah, it was. It was. It's a good article. So yes, I thought that was it.

I didn't think we're gonna make any moose.

No, I didn't either.

I was glad we didn't trade anybody away.

I am too.

The Buckeers are only a half game out of first place.

I yeah, I think the the the disappointing part is I just don't think we've seen this team play like they did against the Saints. I thought I thought that was the building block, like that was gonna be okay, We're gonna build on top of that point. And it just hasn't happened. And and I think that's what's kind of discouraged a number of fans. And uh, it's not as they're not grinded it out, but people start to

I don't think there was a lot in this last game that people would complain about from a play calling perspective. I don't think the Atlanta game there was all this why are you running?

Yeah, you can't run. I don't think it was the play calling. I think it was the tempo of the play calling. Okay, And because it took seven minutes and twenty one seconds. Yeah, see, I knew you would know that number when you had to score twice. Yeah.

But I mean part of the reason was that drive took seventeen plays.

Well, that's that's what I mean, because.

A lot of plays along the way didn't work. Had some of those plays worked earlier, the drive would have been quicker. But you had to dig yourself out of a hole like four times.

But also, but also it you know they were huddling up, they were it wasn't It wasn't what you call the two minute drill or the four minute drill. So I would I would say that's what the argument tome was.

The Todd Balls acknowledged yesterday that yes, the Buccaneers need to pick up their tempo in a situation like that. I'm just saying, let's at least acknowledge the situation here, the Buccaneers didn't get the ball back with ten minutes with the intention of taking seven minutes, and they didn't run the ball a bunch of times. They just were not succeeding on first and second down, and so that's taking time.

But Todd also said that the reason why they weren't rushing is when they did rush, they were having miscues, so they slowed it up to make sure they didn't have any miscues. And who knows, And in fairness, if you weren't at that stadium, you didn't realize how loud it was. And what I liked about about being there is when we had not that I liked it. They were booing or yelling while the Bucks had the ball.

Another thing about this whole the drive took so long.

Uh huh.

Let's not forget that Mike Evans caught a forty two yard pass on the third play of the drive. On the fourth play of the drive, that would have made this a much quicker drive, but it was called back on a holding, PA.

That's great observation, so very good.

I'm saying there's a lot of Yep, there's a lot of noise here. There's a lot of reasons why this took so long. And like you said, they were concerned about making mistakes. Had they gone on tempo and made a couple of mistakes, the drive probably never I mean you got a score. Yeah, they probably would have never scored it. We lost by two touches.

That was a good that's that's a good point. A forty three yard play getting pulled back? Was it holding? Yeah?

I was holding on Cody Mark, Yeah, Malk Malk.

So yeah, Okay, fair enough, that's very good. All right, all right, all right. I like that.

And on defense to me and Todd Bowles alluded to it a little bit when he said, the ball not going over our heads, but they're getting too.

Much, yakh.

They if you look, if you define explosive plays as runs of ten or more yards and passes of twenty or more yards, the Bucks actually had more than the than the Bills had in that game. But the Bills had I think somewhere around seven million, like seventeen yard passes. They were working the intermediate part of the field. So well, Yeah, they had just so many different plays that were good and part of it was yak, but they were just scheme.

Yeah, I will say though, I do like the fight on this team and people and people go and I had this conversation. I was like, you have to understand you and I both been around teams that we've noticed that they didn't have the fight, you know, it just it just went away. And this team is still sounded solidly together, believing that they can win, and they're just gotta quit making those mistakes. And I go with with Todd said, you got to quit beating yourself, you know.

All right, well you know it's Halloween, and I right, I do. I gotta let you out of here and go home and handle candy.

To all the kids in the neighborhood. How do you feel about candy corn? Not a fan?

Okay, it's like like it's gross, like because it seems to be very polarizing, like a lot of people.

Really like can't cannot even stand the thought of putting it in my mind.

Okay, that's the way I feel about circus peanuts, by the way, which are disgusting.

I love the circus they're disgusting. Love and the shells.

What no circus peanuts? The candy Oh oh, it's like the spongy orange ye shaped like a Peanuts disgusting.

All right, It's like, yeah, it's a fake mushroom. You are a fake marsh bellow. Go ahead.

You don't see that much anymore, but you still see candy corn everywhere. It seems to be very polarizing. Do you have a favorite candy for Halloween?

M and M's are my big just not a big I'm a big M and M guy. TOTSI roll love those. I like the flavored to rolls. You like those? No? Oh, they're great? No, just I love those. I Yeah, there's not a you know I like I like not neither do I but you know, I like the I like the atomic fireball once.

Yeah, that's out of there. No, that's just when it comes to candy bars, you don't see it a lot. But if you get one hundred grand, I've never had one of those, what I've never I'm bringing you one. I'm going to bring you one.

Really, i've never had one.

You've never had a one hundred grand bar.

Don't even picture. You don't even know what it is, Okay, now, other than it probably says one hundred grand on, I'm going.

To find you one, and you're gonna realize they're the best candy bar, the best ever. It's my favorite candy bar.

Okay, all right, fair enough.

Mikaway Midnights are pretty good too. What milk Key Way Midnight? It's dark chocolate and there's caramel I don't like. I don't like regular milky ways.

No, no, dark chocolate, I got it. If I yeah, I'll bring you one of those. You've never had that.

No, I'm gonna bring you those two things.

I used to like.

Maybe I'll go trick or treating. I gotta find it. I gotta find a costume so I can go trick or treating.

So you don't have to buy anything. That's where the that's where the line becomes how old are you.

I'm gonna get some crutches and maybe like some fake casts and go as a NFL quarterback in Week eight because I think they.

All got hurt. What you should do is carry a sign that just says, get off my lawn. I'm just saying, Kirk Cousins got hurt. Can you pick it?

Got hurt, Tyra Taylor got hurt. Desmond River might have got hurt. Old There seems to be kind of a mystery about that whole thing. It was kind of it was kind of brutal out there over the weekend.

Achilles heel, Yeah, that was the Kirk one.

Can you imagine everybody wanted the Vikings to trade Kirk Cousin of the Jets. Can you measure if he got traded the Jets and then did Achilles just like Rogers? Wow, that would have been nuts.

It's crazy. And what's weird about that play is it's not like he got tackled or anything, just.

The way those injuries usually happened. And no, I guess Aaron Rodgers was being tackled.

Yeah, he planted his foot but he planted. Kirk Cousins planted his foot to take off running and went down.

Every time I see an injury like that, like an achilles just pops like that, I wonder was it about to go? I would like it was destined to happen. It was just a matter of when. And you don't realize how you got a ticking time bomb in the back of your ankle.

I think that's the case to them. Yeah, and then that's the mark where you go, oh, that was the play that did it.

Yeah, but you didn't know until it happened.

That's a good doctor question. I wonder about that if did doctor even know how? I don't know. Well, I don't know. I don't you know. Is it a slow did it injury?

Did you not realize it was partially torn and then you just got the rest of it? Yeah, although I think you would know if it was partially torn, you'd feel that one, you would.

I've never had it.

Oh, I should not have said that. I never had an achilles standing an injury. No, I've had a torny ceo. No, no, no, all right, Jeff, we will try to get a player tomorrow, right, uh huh. But either way, we are going to stop here, okay, and then we'll come back and do the fans questions. We got a bunch of them, the Salty Dogs. Wait, we're actually like recording, like we're doing the show right now.

Yeah.

Oh well then hey everyone, Well, welcome back. I can make it at it Okay, Well, don't just leave it in. That's kind of funny. Welcome back to the Salty Dogs Podcast. I'm Scott Smith.

So yeah, yep you are.

That's Jeff Ryan over there. I am, and we're gonna do the fan questions now.

All right, my favorite my second favorite part. So the worst part is when you just have to talk to me. Yeah, it's brutal, but that's always the part you see is nice. I suck it up. I'm a team player. All right.

Let me get to the first one. Okay, I think this is it.

No, gosh, we have a lot of them. Oh that's nice though, that's good.

Okay, this is the first one.

I'm well, what's the matter? You have any issues with your laptop?

No, I'm just trying to see which was the h Okay, we definitely did peg.

Yeah, so she was the last one. She was the last one.

This is from Don Little in Orlando, Florida. HOOYI old salty dogs. Actually, I guess this is really a rant and a question, but here goes. I was really disappointed to see the Bucks TV schedule this year that has both Fox and CBS televising seven Bucks games this year attached as a schedule for reference, like, Okay, I wouldn't have a schedule. Yeah, there's one right there, I see it. In years past, it seemed to me that Fox televised the majority of the Bucks games. Fox televises NFC versus

Later this year.

Oh that's cool, Okay, ran Over, Can you help me understand the TV networks how the TV networks determine the NFL TV schedules. Keep up the great work done, little Yeah, this is probably more in your wheelhouse.

Yeah, so, well, it used to be he is correct, he correct, he is correct. It used to be the visiting team whatever division they were in NFC, will say, right, conference, yep, they would be with Fox. If you were I in the AFC, you would be then with CBS.

So absolutely correct, right, the visiting teams conference determined which network it was on.

Because of the new TV rights deal and because of the dollars all of these TV companies are paying, they want to be able to mix it up a little bit in case you get caught with some teams.

Being may maybe the AFC is a lot more good teams than the NFC.

Correct, So that is how it came about. So now the networks fight over each other. They're allowed to correct what game they want. They get so many that they can go with, and he's absolutely right on the schedule. We have it now.

Nominally speaking, they still use the Foxes, NFC, CBS's AFC, but they have so many options to pick games from the other side that it doesn't really work out that.

Way, right right, So then and and then with throws would also compounded this was the fact that you have a Thursday night game, a Sunday night game, and a Monday night game. So and they were trying to grab the best that they see.

They wanted more good games on Thursdays.

So you didn't want to limit yourself to a league.

So basically, yeah, difference, that's just how they do it now.

That's in the new now new deal. For him living in Orlando, it's a shame really, Okay, A lot of that is up to that particular it is. Yeah, but you get the pick and choose knowing he's right.

Knowing that doesn't change the problem for don.

At one time. At one time it would be you would lock in.

So it's understandable. That's kind of a specific situation a specific problem for don I doubt that's a big problem for most people.

And they live in Orlando too, the only one. Yeah, because and and the Orlando markets really kind.

Of aren't we closer to Orlando than Jacksonville. Why would they always choose Jags games?

Well, because that because that was the AFC game and then we're the NFC. So so they're sticking with.

He's saying when it's I understand what he's saying. When they're both on CBS, they tend to choose the jat Jacks. I wonder why because I mean, I don't know. I know as previously they were usually.

Doing the Jags games. So they're staying with what they feel is good.

And you could say going into the season, and even given the results the Jags are they're doing well, Yeah, they're a team you'd want to watch.

Me Now, I don't know what the Jag schedule is, So I don't know how many conflicts you have right now, because they apparently there's at least a couple. Yeah. But the part about the Orlando market is that all three teams in Florida kind of own the Orlando market.

Okay, they get in there, so okay, well we got to move along. It's got a tone. This is from Phillip Spencer, Phil from Spokane, Washington. He said, this one is definitely primarily for Scott, but I managed to complete my first grid. He's talking about the EMACA. Yea, naturally, it was one that included the Bucks. Thanks for sharing this. It's been a fun thing to pull up daily. No question is this week. I just wanted to say thanks and go Bucks. So he gave me a little screenshot.

Yeah, I know who you're talking about.

And then with the Panthers, I would have gone with a Darius Taylor, remember that linebacker changed his last name. And then thousand yard receiving. It's kind of hard to get obscure with a thousand yard receiving. Who's the most obscure thousand yard receiver in team history?

Have any inputs on obscure?

I mean, everybody who can think of that had a thousand yards, like Joey Galloway, a Kevin House, I think, Mike Evans, Vincent Jackson, Michael Clayton.

They come easily to mine.

I think the most obscure one would probably probably be Antoni O'Bryant in two thousand and eight. Oh yeah, and then we franchised him and got hurt.

Yeah, so he did make that wonderful catch.

And yeah, amazingly enough, we're gonna be talking about that in a moment.

Oh okay, I'll be quiet, all right, Well, there you go.

Thanks for sharing that Philip. This is from Jerry Owens from Maryland. Longtime listener, first time emailer. I'm writing this a few hours before our Thursday night game against the Bills. I've been a Bucks fan since nineteen ninety six.

It's kind of a weird.

Oh that's what for Tony Tony Dungee's for sure. Yeah, what would make you a Bucks fan for the first time in ninety six? I mean, who knows what's going on in his life? I don't know, and I've seen a lot to be salty about. My wife even calls me Morton when I'm in a mood. Wharton like the salt guy.

Yeah, I got it.

But I wanted to share a memory for my first time seeing a Bucks game live. It was back in two thousand and eight when we played the Panthers in Carolina on a Monday night. My wife and I drove down from Maryland. I was so excited to see my team play live in a primetime game. We all know how the game ended. We still had Brooks on the team, so was Derek Brooks, so it was awesome seeing one of my favorite players do his thing in person. That was Derek's last year. My favorite moment from the game

That's cool.

I can picture that too, can you do? That was an unbelievable catch.

Crazy.

So I was wondering, what are your favorite Bucks moments excluding Super Bowls and Rende shutting down the VET so you can go first?

Oh god, I mean that's a lot, right, Yeah, that's a hard one. That's a really hard one.

There's a lot of choices.

Yeah. Wow, you're not even gonna try, are you. I mean Johnny and Lynch making interceptions to win games. I mean Sap and Brett Farb going at it those Yeah, those are really cool plays. Yeah. I don't think I have a favorite favorite, but a couple, right, Yeah, what do you have?

I'm just gonna I'm winging it here. I didn't I didn't prepare for this at all, all Right. One of them is the Saint Louis game in two thousand. Yeah, Monday night football game where the pitch I.

Was gonna make I was gonna bring that up. But yeah, that's a good I brought that one up. I'm trying to think of ones that we haven't brought up all over the place. But that was. Yeah, that was a fun game. Wait a minute, was that really two thousand and eight the game he's talking about with antonio'bryant, Because I'm looking at the Yeah, it was the last we lost that game.

That was the last year won the game. It was the overtime game.

But I don't think it was a wait, no, because that would have been John Gruden's last year.

Well why was that?

Why is that a problem? Because we lost on Monday night against Carolina and all we were nine three and all we needed to do was win one more and we didn't.

Okay, but I'm looking at the Yeah, you're right, I'm looking at the Panther schedule and the time we beat him twenty seven three, So that wasn't that game. It had to be like maybe was it seven?

You know?

And both because when he said oh wait, I thought that was right, it wasn't seven either. He was two thousand and nine.

Nope. I don't know. That's kind of weird, but I yeah, I do remember that Monday night game because that was that was because we weren't on Monday nights very often. That that was the other thing. That's when it became a big deal. And then after you do a bunch of primetime games, you go, gosh, give me a one o'clock game, would you please make me happy?

But I'm glad that you're talking now. Are you well with philling?

Are as well? You're going through what year that was? But I don't think you're it.

Was twenty twelve.

Really, I don't think that's right. No, we may have to go back and look that one up later.

And we won twenty to seven and o seven we won twenty seven to three, But that wasn't in Carolina we won twenty to seven. In Carolina we won, we lost forty sixteen, twenty seven to twenty one. There it was twenty twelve. Wow, man, woo.

The years.

I gotta tell you, dude, the years. Just Jerry, I mean, come on, I know, two thousand and eight to twenty twelve. That's a big miss. Come on, Jerry. But maybe to him it was twenty twelve. Was not the year we had Antonio Bryant. No, I don't know what is going on here.

I don't know.

I think both Jerry and I are getting Okay, let's teams confuse.

Let's do this, let's table this, and we'll bring it in Dallas.

Week two thousand and one, we won at Carolina, I mean twenty twelve, we won at Carolina on a Sunday on Dallas. Clark's Vincent Jackson made an incredible one nded catch in that game. Yeah, well, then that's why I'm getting them confused to tie the game. No, it wasn't. It wasn't a one end of catch, but it was an incredible touchdown catch to tie the game, and then we won it in overtime on Dallas Clark. And that was the reason that's noteworthy is because that.

Was the first It was two thousand and eight when until.

Trying to talk, the reason that that's noteworthy is that it was the first time the Buccaneers ever won an overtime game with a touchdown. So in two thousand and eight, we beat Carolina twenty seven to three at home and lost to him thirty to twenty three in the road.

Yeah, that was the last. That was a Monday night game, really and that was the last.

Feel like my brain is breaking.

Yep, But I think that's when he made the catch. Antonio Brown had to be one of those years because that was his big year. I think it was that catch because it was such a fantastic catch. I thought for sure we were gonna win, and we didn't. Okay, how it started, and that was two thousand and eight because we were nine and three on a Monday night, just needed one win to go to the playoffs.

Okay, yeah, I'm gonna have to research this later. Anyway, I think I think Jerry and I are. Yeah, I think you were. I think, well, Jerry and I are having little lapses.

Of senior moments. I understand. I think we're.

Crossing several things over each other. Yeah, or maybe I'm completely misreading his email. Did he even say we won? No, No, he didn't one.

He just said it was a great catch.

I'm the one who messed it up because I conflated that game and Antonio Bright's great catch with Vincent Jackson's great catch in the same end zone that tied the game and sent it over. I'm sorry, Jerry, you did nothing wrong. This was one hundred percent of me. Okay, my bad, all right, But I do remember that catch was amazing.

It was all right. I remember that game because again, it was.

Monday combined two game memories in my head.

Too much information.

All right, this is from our friend in Germany, Stefan.

It's by the way this weekend. Yeah, there's a game, I think. And then next word big game. Kansas City is Detroit, No, it's Kansas City. It's a good game. It's a big, big game. Because it's like, wow, how did they get the prime time Kansas City? Miami and Miami? Oh wow, I know. And interesting enough, Miami has already flown to Germany where this is on a Tuesday, and Kansas City is flying like we did Thursday.

I watched the coach, Mike McDaniel, I watched his McDaniel, I watched his press conference answer about that.

It was a really good explanation. Smart dude, what do you say?

Basically, he wanted to he wanted to go over there so that the early so that the players the team could have their off day there, Yeah, instead of having the off day earlier in the week in Florida, so that they could do stuff together and that everybody could get their sight seeing in on that day. He's like, I was a little worried about players trying to cram in all the work we need to do and the sight seeing.

Yeah makes sense. Well. Also to the NFL likes to have events that you go to, so some teams don't like to go early so they don't have to go to all those events.

Man, I'm not sure we can get through all these questions.

Well that's all right.

This is from Stefan. Okay, it's five point thirty am in Germany. The game is over and we got a hat trick. Thanks in three losses in a row, Luke g Kttikey got a hat trick two three fall starts in one game. Scott, what is the record for fall star penalties for one player.

In a game?

I don't have a way to look that up now. I did, however, look up this year's penalties false starts. Carolina's Ikey ekwan Wu and Denver's Mike mclinchy have the most, with five.

Bucks total. Access with Ali Marpett and Casey. Luke was on and it's a good Listen. He talked about he talks about, he talks about stuff. Yeah, he talks about the old line in the house, Yeah, yep. And how he needs to make you no excuses. But he's had a good year though, he's had a good year and what he needs. And it's an interesting conversation between him and Ali Marpett.

Tristan was that's good.

You should listen to that.

Tristan. Tristan is playing great.

At left tackle. We all know that they talk about him, but.

I think probably next in terms of how well they performed on that line is Luke And that was not a given. You know, I know he played right tackle in college, but that doesn't mean you're going to be a good one in the pros. But he's done a good job. He only had one. He's got four on the year, so he only had I'm taking this guy's work for it that he had three in the game. I didn't look it up, but that means he only

A good year. He does and he's improving. Got to remember he's improving.

I mean, she's Mike mclinch. He got a billion dollars from the from the Broncos and he got he's got five of them already. Wow, Okay, we need to move crazy. Last drive, by the way, another loss is frustrating, but there is hope to the halfback screen should be an option in the next games.

Are White has.

More receiving yards than rushing yards, right, No, that's not.

Exactly right, but I get the point. Okay, I can tell you the exact answer.

Hold on, he has three hundred and five rushing yards and two hundred and thirty three receivers. Hope wharfs is fine for the next game. I think you will be. Jeff. Is it possible to listen to the radio, specifically Jean's play by play here in Germany?

No, Unfortunately it's geo blocked. Well, and that's a bummer. I blame you. I know that's the that's the NFL. I don't know if you can get the NFL pass. You need to look that up to uh. I don't know if they geo blocked that. I wouldn't think they would with that, but they geo block us, which means we can't go over outside one hundred miles up.

Tamp I'm counting here, and we still have seven more. We're not doing seven more.

We're on the next one.

I mean, maybe we can come back short answers if we skip them, maybe we can come back. Well, some of them are long, though, all right, he says, until the next time, fire the cannons and go bucks.

All right. Nice.

This next one is from Mike in Connecticut, and it's a really long rant that I wanted to read. However, we don't have time, and he sent another one earlier today that I think we can get through more quickly, and that one goes, Hey, guys, just hoping to follow up before you tape. I still stand by my rant, which I have not read, but maybe we will next week. But I realized I blamed Luke Gettikey for the hold

I think that's clear.

So yeah, there were two, but hard go all right, here's what I gotta read the right. I'm not in our hurry, remember you. Yeah, I know, but I got some more things to do. And we've been going like an hour and a.

Half, haven't we about an hour and twenty minutes?

I think at this point we're probably just not going to get a player. Well, all right, this is from Philip in California, who we've heard from before. Philip Squadron. Now you asked me if peg who we read her email? Yeah, and she had felt that you were being disrespectful to me because I mentioned that you were looking at your phone, right, and we had a good talk about it.

We did.

But I just want to set the scene for this email. Okay, thank you for your candid thoughts.

Wait, I think this one's to you. Oh okay, dear Jeff, thank you for.

Your candid thoughts throughout this podcast that you do with That other guy's got someone who is always interrupting you. I am offended that he would leave the team for something as frivolous as his sister's wedding. How dare he? That's my favorite email league, he says. The previous paragraph was an attempt at levity, which we did get.

We got it.

Any references to actual people living or dead is merely coincidental.

So that's good. That's very good. All right.

My topic is the talk recently has been the early bye week and the pros and cons of it. Do we all make anything out of the fact that they haven't won a game since we came back from the week off, or is it just all the other factors that can hit a team in a three game skid. I also remember the Super Bowl season where we had a late buy and didn't lose a game after, which is true, true, that's a big story storyline of that season.

No, I mean, you try to find different things personally. Personally, I wish we would get into a a better rhythm. And I think, you know, we came off to buy. We were gonna have a one o'clock game, then we had a four o'clock game, then we had a Thursday game, and now the way it works, we're on the road for the month of November three out of four games, but they're consistently one o'clock games, and I think that's gonna help.

Okay, I can't see how the buye which during which we got a couple of key players back from injuries. I suppose you could say we had momentum with our three and one start in the great Game in New Orleans, and then the bye killed that momentum. It's not anything that can possibly be quantified, so you can make a conjecture,

If the coaching staff had had a thought on it, what it was or is, it would be corrected. Yeah, So it's just it's it just it gives you an indicator of where things haven't gone well the last few weeks with the Bucks, because it was after the bye. When we went into the bye, people were pretty high.

So all right, next one from Sam. From Sam and Nashville Dogs. As I'm sure you've already discussed, while the last couple of weeks have been far from ideal, the sky is not falling. I don't think we've actually made that point, but.

That's a good one.

I don't think even many of the optimistic fans had us better than four and three at this point in the season, and we are only one game back from that projected record. Our defense has been playing great, despite what many on the socials are saying, he says, and has kept us in every game. If the offense can just figure things out, we could still take control of this division. Since the Saints and Falcons don't seem to really want to take command of the division either. Well,

Game, I agree.

I know our offense has struggled, but it seems to me like we have had way more drives start inside our ten yard line than in years past. When you're that backed up, that's hard to operate no matter who you are. Do you know where we rank in the league in that regard? Here's hoping we get back to five hundred winter lose. Thanks for always doing a great podcast. Thanks Sam all right, I did not. I only looked at the I think when was this said? I only

It is up.

We have in seven games so far this season we have started eleven drives inside our ten yard line ten yard line or ten to one. Yeah, eleven and six. That's eleven times in seven games. Last year we did that fourteen times in seventeen games, the year before sixteen times in seventeen games, and in twenty twenty eleven times in sixteen games. So to have eleven in just seven games is way so yes, that has happened, and the Punders are much better now. Well yeah, I mean that

Now, if we decide we're not going to get a player, you could read his that long rant.

That's okay, sorry, I'll do all the emails then, okay, yeah, I just feel we should we and we okay, but then we got that one and three more.

So let me get to this. Okay.

This is from Alexander and Brazil HOI salty ones. Hope this finds you both well. I have to admit that I was a little too salty last week, but only because I didn't see a way we could have dropped that game. You see, it was different against the Eagles lines and Bills. Oh so he's talking about the Atlanta where I thought we could win, but it was kind of an uphill battle. Speaking of it, I keep watching last game's replay, hoping Chris God will until turn his

Of course, I wonder if you fast forwarded if his head turns faster.

But anyway, I believe that this team will find a way and we will win the next two games. It's about time our offense starts making plays. And what about our new long awaited Salty Dogs merchandising long keep waiting. I'm really curious about that. Since you did, thanks for reading Alexander from South PALAPRAZILA. All right, Mark Rice Mesa, this is our friend with Mesa. I wanted to I really wanted to read this one too, because it gives

Which you do the voiceover for why you're also featured. I'm featured in it these days.

The segment about the origins of the Hey Hey Tampa Bay fight song was as cool as it was unexpected.

I haven't watched this one yet. Very cool, it is very That was a nice touch. Exclamation point.

And while we're distributing praise, how about a little love for the work that Dave Moore does on the weekly radio broadcast question mark exclamation point.

Wow.

I particularly appreciate that he offers critical insights like diagnosing why a play doesn't work, work, who likely missed an assignment, and even when the team gets away with uncalled penalties. You get the sense that if he were still in the locker room, he'd be one of the main voices

Yeah, he approaches it like if he was your coach and was telling you what was wrong. And he always feels that a player can never get mad at him because that's what your coach is going to tell you so, I don't think the player are a good man him. No.

Mike Mark says, thanks for doing what you guys do.

Okay.

Daniel doesn't say, Oh east Lake, Florida, Okay. HOI salty dogs. Hope you guys are doing well even though we have lost three in a row. Hopefully we can turn the corner of this upcoming Sunday with a win against the Texans as we saw last season win the South clinch A playoffs by yep. My question is who do you think should be the next Buck player in the Ring of Honor? In my opinion, it should be Martin Gramatica because of the clutch kicks he had during his time here,

It's nice. It is.

Take care Sincerely, Dan Damara from east Lake, Florida.

Go Bucks. Thanks a local guy. We like it.

How close is east like to hear?

And I think it isn't it? East Lake just right right off of between. I know there's a golf course called East Lake Woodlands, isn't that?

Is that the same thing?

I don't know. That's East Lake, Florida. Interest in East Lake, Florida all one word, all one word, which is the case for Eastlake Woodlands? Okay, the golf course.

Okay. I have a very strong opinion on this matter. Okay, And while I love hearing him, he prays on Martin Gramatica, go, go go. I think the next two guys in should be Hardy Nickerson and sameon Rice. Wow, that's my opinion. Now that Monty's in, I thought that was a big one we needed to get done. We got all the Hall of Famers in right. Yeah, it's obviously at some point Levonte and Mike Evans will be in, but they're

Yeah, he was the missing piece. Yeah. He came in and played for a minute at a minimum for like a million dollar contract, which and then for a one year deal. He did a one year deal, played so well, boom, he got a big deal.

He was as critical to that defense as just about anybody. He was the missing piece, and Monte Kiffin knew it. I don't think I have to convince anybody about hardy knickers from no.

No, well he he changed the culture. Yeah, totally, totally a great player, Yeah, and a good person and all of that. Yeah. By the way, East Lake is in Banala's county. It is.

Okay, So but East Like Woodlands isn't? Uh East Lake is, I know, but the golf course east like Woodlands. Yeah, it's in Palm Harbor and that's county.

Yeah.

Okay, do you have any difference of opinion on this?

No? Okay, no, I you make valid points.

I as much as Zimon Brady should go in, bring him on, I'm going to say yes. Honestly, well, I'm going to say yes.

It's kind of hard to say no, since he came and you won a Super Bowl and you won two NFC Divisions South Division titles.

So if it had been one season, yeah, I don't think so. But it's three seasons super Bowl Division titles. Yeah, and he was phenomenal correct, especially in the first two years. Yeah, I totally agree, but I would still go Hardy and Simeon and then maybe go to Tom.

Yeah.

All right, one more and it's the rant. Okay, I'm gonna make sure I didn't miss anybody here I like. So it's all all good. That ends well here Michael from Connecticut, because we are going to reach you.

We are.

It's long, though, so strap in.

Jeff, I'm a listening.

Hey dogs, I woke up still covered in salt today, so I apologize in advance, but I need to vent. Yes this will be long, and yes I typed it on my phone while I'm waiting for new tires.

Wow, Well, what else you gonna do when you're waiting for new tires?

First off, I'd like to acknowledge the defense is the only thing keeping the Bucks in games right now. Even though they are allowing teams tons of yards, their red zone defense has been lights out. Clamping down when they need stops. However, however, with the way the offense has been playing, I can't help but wonder how long it will last. They're going to get worn out if they're

No.

In fact, in the Atlanta game we had a slight edge, and in this last game it was only like thirty one to twenty nine.

Yeah, but that's it just felt that way.

It may feel that way, but that's not happening, I don't think. And also, I'm gonna finish reading this rant. I don't agree with the overall tenor that the offense has been a disaster. The offense is having some problems, but it also is showing a lot of things other than running the ball of course, that it can do a lot of things that make me optimistic.

Okay, I'm with you on that, Okay, Okay.

What's more frustrating is the offense is just Keptah. What's more frustrating is the offense is clearly capable of getting yards, but it can't stop shooting. Themselves in the foot. That's fair. That's fair. I shouldn't have I should have stopped. I should have have skept eating fair. Big completion to Evans called back because mouk tackle guy. I didn't see the replay, which that's me saying that, which I'll admit seemed more like a pancake than the hold, but still got a flack.

But trip tripped and then he fell. Cody was tripping to engage with.

Him, so he trips over him. All right, now, I'm mad big run by White called back by hold from getticky, and he in his next email, which we already read, he that was actually Palmer, who had a pretty rough night. I think got laundry on the field three times last night for holding, not holding, false start, which I what the hell is going on? We moved on from Donovan Smith, who was a great buck. But I'm pretty sure led the league and the holding calls last year, and it's

Agree.

I hope they get it together because this season is going to get sideways if it hasn't already. Dropping three games in a row is not a good sign. Well no, it's not so much that it's not a good sign. It's it's not good No, sorry, No, questions today, just needed to shake off the salt. Hope you enjoyed the wedding. Wait a minute, he said, Oh, he's in it on Friday, Okay, and please don't stop bickering at each other. Nobody's if it's.

Why we love the show. I totally appreciate the fact that he found something to do as he's getting tires change.

After buy a new tire recent one.

Yeah. Yeah, I think it's the fact that he's he's getting tired change and he's all fired up about the bucks and he's working off his phone. How's the punctuation on it? Pretty good?

Yeah, there's there's there's no exclamation point.

It's it's in an email. Correct, it's not all caps. Yeah.

I don't see a single exclamation point.

Really. Uh.

He did have three question marks after what the hell is going on?

Wow? That means he's really really mad.

That's like, what the hell is going on? Yeah, although I would probably have thrown an exclamation point in there with the question marks.

Oh, just to be like, what the hell's going on?

Yeah, but there's no all caps, all sudden none is It's pretty measured nice. I mean you could tell he says right off the top of salty. Yeah, we get that, and all of it was pretty much on point. I just don't agree with the Luke Ettikey's head not having a good season point.

That's yeah, I I I totally agree. And he listen to to Bucks Total Access Monday's ten thirty. Uh, that's the one you would want to walk listen to. It's on it's our, it's our. Yeah, it's on the website right now, So that would be a good one. I think I think you'll get a better feel for who Luke is and what he's trying to accomplish. And it's you know, no one knows more than when a holding call and it's on you that you shouldn't do that.

So I'm just saying the thing about the difference between a holding call and a false start call is sometimes holding calls maybe sometimes obviously you mess up and it's bad technique or someone Sometimes you know, like the one we just talked about with Cody Mauk, you really didn't do anything wrong, right, If you false start, you clearly did something wrong. Yeah, yeah, and it's something that's preventable. Those Cody couldn't prevent the fact that the dude tripped and the d tripped over them.

But those are those are the things that need to be corrected. And if you're not a little bit salty after the last three weeks, then you're not being really true to your Yeah, and you know, so it all begins on Sunday.

Well, we talk about fall starts. Let's keep in mind that we have played road games in New Orleans, Minnesota and Buffalo, three of probably the five loudest stadiums.

In the and yeah, and so then you're gonna be in Houston, which is a dome.

Yeah, but I don't know if it has a reputation for loudness.

Yeah, Indianapolis, Yeah, they can get pretty they game pretty loud. And then we'll be in San Francisco. So we have not in that order.

No Atlanta later, but they don't tend to get that loud. Now green Bay gets loud.

For what they have, but they may not be allowed by that time.

Yeah, they traded away Douglas. I assume they're not going for it.

All right, All right, that's a lot of questions. Okay, so no no player all right after this? Okay, I don't think that makes sense. All Right, Okay, we've plenty of time. We got cool tomorrow. It's all about you, my friend. Thank you since you did. Thanks for listening.